How far would Kars get in Dragon Ball? (JOJO)

[@arkkon2740]

5:11 I just wanted to mention His ability to change his dna revolves around the earth Anything that ever has, will, or can evolve on earth, he can become. Given how many aliens that have been on earth before and how half saiyans exist, good chance he can access or at least get a taste of saiyan, namekian or even Frieza's dna And depending on the case, if he's given time between arcs, then he can easily get above the competition with ki control as Kars isn't above training in the slightest Also i gotta mention, kars has a shit ton of battle experience, and I'd absolutely say he's on roshi's level solely because of how old he is and how long he's been fighting. Kars iirc is a few thousand years old, I think older than roshi, and he's been fighting Hamon users for assumedly his entire waking life. On top of that, he's a prodigy, he instantly knew how to control hamon and amplify it hundreds of times more than anyone has ever seen, ki control isn't much different in terms of how it works in their respective series either. Roshi's main mode of combat is just being stronger than someone, like if you compared Bruce Lee to Roshi in an equal stats match up, I wouldn't immediately put my money on roshi because he's used to fighting weaker opponents, even when he fought goku - it wasn't skill that had roshi on the ropes, it was strength. Giving Kars a little time to hone his skills instead of immediately throwing him through time into each fight is essential because he can grow that fast

[@arkkon2740]

Okay im done editing this comment so I'll just add to the thread Apparently Kars is over 100 thousand years old, and he's been fightinf Hamon users ever since they discovered the pillar men. We dont know how old the hamon technique, but there's a good chance it's as old as the Pillar Men, at most, considering thats why it came to be

[@arkkon2740]

Okay ONE MORE COMMENT Pillar Men are souped up vampires, which means they keep the same blood amping abilities. If we let him keep the power he gains from previous fights, then he can get a serious leg up considering the blood of strong characters canonically give vampires greater strength boosts.

[@generalinternet264]

the dna around the earth thing is i think just a case of theres no other known life at that point, so it was a way of saying "anything possible through evolution i can become" sort of thing, part 2 jojo didnt have cloning, genetic editing, aliens anything of the sort so it worked, but I think Kars could do it unless they are something inherintly magical, like I dont think Buu, or maybe angels is on the table for him to copy, but just about every other race in the series is.

[@srnova9486]

@@arkkon2740 DNA things is talking about the evolutionary tree of animals from earth but we dont know if Kars can just passively get new DNA or he just gets it once when he becomes the ultimate lifeform, maybe if he became the ultimate lifeform while on DBZ earth he could get saiyan DNA but since this isnt the scenario we are talking about he wouldnt get alien DNA (Also we dont know how well Kars can use all of his DNA abilities, he tried to attack Joseph with octopus tentacles and pirahnas? like he couldve done something MUCH more dangerous like an animal that has a strong poison so if one bit Joseph like those piranas its over ,i dont think he didnt think of that his IQ Is like 500? So he probably just couldnt for some reason) Roshi is insanely skilled, its stated hes mastered every martial arts on earth Oh and also the guy in the video tried to say DBZ characters can lose by just being absorbed but thats completely forgetting that they wont be hurt by any acid from pillarmen cuz DBZ character durability actually works on atomic level so acid wouldnt be able to melt their bodies i think Kars stands no chance at all even in 21st wt saga

[@Numbers-gStands]

@@arkkon2740Technically the pillarmen we see most prominently in the story are a form of pillarmen who have used stone masks. It’s not entirely certain what abilities a non-masked pillarmen lacks but we can say with near certainty that they lack the special abilities we see the ‘advanced’ pillarmen do in part 2 such as bone blades, as they use normal weapons for attacking

[@vonfaustien3957]

Kid Goku pulls the same stunt he did on monster Carrot and sends him to space/the moon. And he ends up in the same state he ended Jojo in

[@aliastheabnormal]

I doubt Goku is smart or pragmatic enough to do so. Besides Kars only lost because of a Kaguya ex Machina.

[@vonfaustien3957]

@@aliastheabnormal he did it a magic rabbit that turned people into Carrots he could do it to Kars. Early DragonBall was wild

[@aliastheabnormal]

@@vonfaustien3957 That was Kid Goku who had two functioning brain cells. DBZ Goku would probably lose an arm for plot's sake like what happened with the fat robot.

[@registan1104]

​@vonfaustien3957 True, but considering this would likely take place in the dragonball universe, and Kars can A. Use the abilities of the entire animal kingdom/fossil record, and B. His rapid improvement when using Hamon after only tapping into it, and C. He mentions being able to sense Stand abilities in side games like eyes of heaven despite not having one himself, there's absolutely no shot he doesn't pick up on at least basic Ki based abilities as the battle progresses. Flight alone would almost certainly make this scenario unlikely, as he could quite literally force himself back into earth's gravitational pull.

[@Numbers-gStands]

@@registan1104If we’re giving him some sort of verse equalization and say he can tap into the evolutionary line of dragon ball’s lifeforms on earth I wonder where exactly that would stop, would second gen hybrid sayains be considered as apart of all of earths lifeforms for example? It’s kinda weird to think about when considering db lore.

[@ohhimarx1471]

Something important to note is that Cars not only can mimic any from of life but what he mimic’s is a version that is 100 times stronger than the original. Such as a 100x powered squirrel, armadillo shells that reflects bullets, and 100x stronger hamon than jojo. Given this power boost, a 100x frieza or buu species would be nuts. And he may even be able to copy ki techniques like he did with Jojo’s hamon.

[@windhelmguard5295]

Kars could use techniques like the kikohou or the kaioken without consequence.

[@aymanbouyaya4759]

Nah buddy y'all's are insane He can amplify the animals powers because he is stronger than them and has more energy How is he going to do that to Frieza ? Or buu ? And how is he going to copy them exactly? They're not from earth

[@zero1343]

​@@aymanbouyaya4759because he can literally manipulate his biology based on things he has seen. Taking aspects of animals and improving upon them. There is no reason he couldn't do the same if he saw alien species that were biological in nature

[@aymanbouyaya4759]

@@zero1343 nope he can't It's bullshit is you say he can just see something and adapt to it's biology even tho he knows nothing of it's existing prior to that He can copy Earth's creatures sure , he lived there for 100k years and he got the stone which may have the infos that can facilitate that , but he can't scan aliens by one look , he's not a living Omnitrix And if he could alter his biology to that degree he would've in order to survive in space , cause there's a lot of micro life creatures that can do that

[@ohhimarx1471]

@@aymanbouyaya4759 Car’s whole purpose is to be the perfect lifeform, changing his biology to copy and surpass any other lifeform. Aliens are still living things that can be replicated.

[@windhelmguard5295]

all these videos on Kars are missing one crucial detail: Pillar men in general have the ability to almost instantly learn and master pretty much anything they chose to learn, stuff like learning a completely new language just by observing it for a bit was a trivial matter for Santana, but Kars takes it to a whole other level, any ability Ultimate Kars choses to master, he masters instantly and on a level that surpasses other masters in that skill by a mile. what this means is that in Dragonball, any ability that can be learned, Kars can learn and master on a level that is without peer (except for maybe the gods and angels) and paired with his immortality Kars could also do other really crazy stuff because of how life force works in dragonball, lastly Kars can also come up with new uses for skill sets he has copied from others, like no human has ever shot a hamon beam before. what this all means is that, soon as Kars becomes aware of Ki, he can do stuff like non-winged flight, using the kikohou without consequence, using the kaioken with multiplier numbers in the thousands without consequence, effortlessly mastering ultra instinct and the list goes on. imprisoning Kars with the mafuba wouldn't work, the move is slow enough for Kars to figure out how it works and teach himself the counter technique when he needs to.

[@TheQuestion2.0]

I still doubt he can beat the main characters due to them overpowering Kars with ki I can see him abusing the zenkais and becoming a saiyan hybrid, but still the main characters must be braindead to not recognize the threat he represents. Shit, if Beerus finds him a threat then he's doomed, he gets hakai'd

[@csg1lcolonel528]

I think MUI requires god ki, which would be significantly harder for Kars to obtain compared to regular ki. And, while he would be able to circumvent the consequences of regular use of Kaioken, it's possible that he'd hit an upper limit where his body simply fails to exert more strength depending on whatever species he chooses to mimic at the time. However, he would most definitely be able to display refinement of ki beyond Roshi's final kamehameha almost immediately, and once he is able to analyze/mimic Saiyan traits, he'd be able to abuse them fully (and it's entirely possible that he'd notice and exploit the compatibility between Saiyan/human blood immediately as well). Once he does eventually get a taste of god ki, however, he'd likely be unstoppable. Thus, the best chance of stopping Kars would be to either seal him or completely eradicate him before he has a chance to discover ki.

[@csg1lcolonel528]

@@TheQuestion2.0 Hakai's effectiveness would really boil down to whether or not Kars is exposed to god ki before he encounters Beerus. As soon as Kars is able to use god ki it, he'd likely come up with applications or techniques similar to hakai and would be able to counter it efficiently.

[@girly_trickster]

FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG THANK YOU!

[@ijudgeanime]

@@girly_trickster I try haha

[@Dragon2850]

the fact that kars could learn about ki and study after absorbing someone means that'll he'd be rapidly powering up by dragon ball universes rules while bringing his unique abilities with him, it's a recipe for like an early cell or buu. and that doesnt even touch how quickly he might learn magic in that universe

[@ice_wallow_come8773]

Kars: that's a funny ability. Let me copy it and make it millions of times better

[@srnova9486]

He doesnt actually have that, he has no copying abilities, idk where ppl get this from

[@aliastheabnormal]

@@srnova9486 It's a combination of abilities. Kars is smart enough to understand anything and everything. And his pillar men biology allows him to manipulate his cells to replicate powers. He's essentially a prodigy in the vein of Goku.

[@chrisrpg2038]

​@@srnova9486 He literally learned and perfected the main technique of his part, Hamon, in his fight with Joseph.

[@Moon996]

​@@srnova9486did you even watched jojo's bizzare adventure battle tendency? Or just skipped

[@srnova9486]

@@aliastheabnormal when did they copy powers please tell me

[@magueyeseck7382]

6:30 basically a walking Omnitrix.

[@itstheultimatefreshsound3391]

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[@ijudgeanime]

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[@itstheultimatefreshsound3391]

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[@ماجدالمطلق-ز1ه]

Amazing video keep going

[@ijudgeanime]

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[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

Great stuff. The best thing is that you actually make sense and are pretty objective.

[@ijudgeanime]

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[@michakrzyzanowski8554]

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[@robbierotten2024]

I always thought Kars was the idea of the perfect life form. He has the potential of any life form and more. He can fly like a bird, faster than a bird can (faster than a biplane for example). He can create a shell that is stronger than any creature able to withstand lava. He can utilize Hamon hundreds of time stronger than a human can. He doesn’t literally turn into a bird, he can become or create a super bird with everything that is perfectly biologically capable. So, given that Kars is the perfect being Kars has access to, he can create a super bird with the biologically strength and power of Kars but the perfect extreme of what makes bird a bird. He has the potential maximum perfected power and capabilities of any lifeform. I think this means that, if Kars were from the Dragon Ball Universe, he wouldn’t just be a Saiyan. He’d be the Perfect Saiyan (a la a super mega Broly), or a perfect Frieza. Or a Perfect Beerus, or a Perfect Whis. Everything that creature is, but greater and to its full potential. A peak Saiyan. The perfect life-form, the potential to be any lifeform yes, but also to be the perfect lifeform beyond that. Given that Hamon isn’t natural to humans, and is also a skill like Ki power levels and requires training; Kars would beat anyone in Dragonball in terms of raw power in terms of his immediate potential. He would immediately dwarf anyone he fought in terms of raw Ki output and power behind his attacks. Anything a Saiyan can potentially be, he has access to. He now has access to transformations and ki, but he’s the perfect Saiyan, more than a Saiyan. His natural ability to manipulate Ki would be immense, and thanks to his immense intellect it wouldn’t take him long to learn how to utilize it skillfully. Think Broly how this fight would go down IMO. An overbearing wellspring of raw power, but completely unrefined. For now. Instantly copy kamehameha for example. Instantly learn to deflect shots. He’s the greatest potential of a life form. So IMO, he’s as strong as the greatest a Saiyan can be, but even more. As far as we’re aware, Saiyan don’t really have limits. They can just keep multiplying strength. Kars wouldnt for example, have immediate access to perfected UI Goku because it’s a technique based on knowledge, not power. But the raw and perfected ki output Goku could output, Kars could output even more. Kars is the potential of life, perfected. The perfect life organism. He’s kinda nuts tbh.

[@srnova9486]

Yeah this is pure cap and wank lol (jojo verse is NOT that strong),Its never stated Kars can turn into "perfect animal" of anything, its just shown he can greatly improve abilities of animals (even tho its stated he couldnt catch up to an airplane with his wings cuz no animal on earth could lol) Its nowhere stated he can master energys to their maximum, he just improved his hamon 100x times,so even if he obtained Ki he would just make it at least 100 times stronger ,nothing special Also ur forgetting Kars doesnt have access alien DNA,literally only stated he has DNA from every animal ON EARTH and thats talking about jojos earth obviously not earth from other verses Jojo fans need to stop coping and realize their fodder building level verse gets soloed by DBS Master Roshi

[@Numbers-gStands]

⁠@@srnova9486 I’ve seen scales for JBA town lvl ap based on a few calcs surrounding justice, the sun, and the meteorites jolyne deflects from part 6. Also not sure why you used dbs master roshi specifically most db characters have a passive ki shield so kars couldn’t use his absorbtion hax on them (which is like his only viable wincon without having extreme speculation on any sort of other biological based hax attacks he might be able to do like creating a supervirus) even if you give the higher end of his combat speed scaling (mftl+ massively upscaling from part 3 DIO who can react and block highballed* mftl+ attacks) to his travel speed and lowball early dbz characters (who already who already easily outclass kars in ap and dura) to like only ftl they should still eventually stomp. Also when people are talking about Kars having the db earth’s lifeforms they’re most likely talking about both verses being equalized so Kars has some amount of ki to start with as well, which is an entirely different conversation that drives into wild speculation.

[@srnova9486]

@@Numbers-gStands ive seen those calcs and they are all pretty bad,especially Jolyne meteoriteo one,theres a lot of contradictions within the fight that prove meteorites werent that powerful at all MFTL KARS LMAO!!!! ☠,its literally stated he couldnt catch up to an air plane and we see that he couldnt,and why would part 3 Dio scaling affect Ultimate Kars???? Kars has never been shown to be able to absorb energy and make it his own, he copied hamon because Kars has human DNA and humans can learn hamon so he more so learned it cuz of his 500 IQ ,copying stuff surrounding Kars is pure fan head canon Kars wouldnt use a supervirus at least not at start of the fight, we see that he tried to attack joseph with tentacles and pirahnas? he couldnt make them snakes or something ,we still dont fully understand how Kars abilities work that isnt verse equalization tho, for Kars to have dbz earth dna he would have to exist in DBZ and become the ultimate lifeform there which he clearly didnt, we are using Kars after he became the ultimate lifeform Why would Kars have same amount of ki ? tf? ☠,jojo fans is swear the reason i said Master Roshi is cuz even he can annihilate Kars down to molecules and win

[@Numbers-gStands]

@@srnova9486 1. Not sure you’ve seen all of them, it’s a decently consistent scale for a highball. 2. Travel speed =/= combat speed. The chain of scaling goes like this, DIO from part 3 with no assistance from The World can deflect the emerald splash casually which gave Star Platinum trouble and also overwhelms SP in the road roller clash. DIO is confirmed to not be at his peak self compared to how he was in part 1 in terms of regenerative capabilities, this most likely extends to his vampiric abilities, for example his greatest lifting feat in part 3 is moving the road roller, but that lifting feat is consistently outscaled by Tarkus (Dio’s subordinate in p1 who he outscales in that part) who lifts a massive piece of earth with a single finger, so part 1 Dio should be relative to or greater than part 3 DIO in speed. Kars is narratively above any vampire and Ultimate Kars is above that by orders of magnitude more which would include combat speed. 3. I never talked about him absorbing energy in my comment? Unless you’re talking about his cellular absorption hax I was referencing, which negates conventional durability to a certain extent. 4. I never said he would, I in fact went out of my way to say that I don’t consider it a viable wincon because it’s entirely speculative. 5. I don’t think you understand what I said here. I’m saying that others most likely think this matchup is verse equalized when they speak on Kars using abilities from the db verse. I’m also not sure I understand what you’re referring to with the comment on ki? I simply said with verse equalization he would have some amount of ki, as almost every lifeform does in db. 6. The point I was making was that literally any character in early dbz/late db can obliterate Kars so it’s strange in my opinion to specify dbs Roshi specifically?

[@srnova9486]

@@Numbers-gStands I dont recall Emerald splash being a problem to Star Platinum, he could tank it with 0 damage which he did 1.His cellular absorbtion could ignore durability but it wouldnt work on characters whos durability works on atomic level like with DBZ characters ,since we have several statements of characters ki being able to turn someone into atoms and its not like they used special ki, it was just regular ki meaning all ki destroys down to atoms and since characters can tank ki attacks that means their durability works on atomic level 2.Verse equalization is a completely fanmade thing, there is no reason we should fuse power systems or give characters energy from other verses,and they dont fight in one of their verses, they are put in a neutral verse 3.We dont know if Ultimate Kars is above any vampire in speed specifically

[@jruler93]

If Ultimate Kars doesn't get instantly atomized or sealed into a rice cooker, he would quickly acclimate to the power system of Ki, and he would rapidly become one of the most powerful beings in DBZ. If he got access to DNA from Saiyans, Namekians, Frieza's race or any of the other aliens in Dragon Ball, he would also assimilate those races' inherent traits and use them to his full advantage. I don't think he could copy Majin Buu (as Buu as a being is magical in nature and may not necessarily have DNA to copy), but he might just take out everyone before that's even a concern.

[@csg1lcolonel528]

Anyone who says Kars can only replicate species of earth is talking out of their ass tbh. Kars is only limited to mimicking every creature on earth because he shared a common origin with all life on earth. If he were able to get his hands on Saiyan DNA, break it down, and analyze it, there's no reason why he shouldn't be able to reconstruct himself as a pseudo-Saiyan (keep in mind Kars never perfectly replicates anything, as he is able to make all his copies are superior to the originals. He could be a Saiyan with his own Pillarman traits for example). Of course, he'd still have to encounter and potentially absorb some Saiyan DNA, but he shouldn't have a harder time breaking down and rebuilding that DNA than Santana did with a gun.

[@toumabyakuya]

I mean, seeing how he sounds like Buu and how he is fully evil, I would say that he would suffer the same fate Buu went through.

[@jruler93]

Given how fast-paced and tactical many JoJo fights are, I don't think he'd give people the opportunity to charge up their attacks, and given how long the Spirit Bomb takes, he would 100% just split off a copy through Mitosis to stop whatever Goku's trying to do while he can still beat on Vegeta.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@jruler93 However, said Vegeta would be strong enough to beat him. The Genki-dama is just a bonus.

[@jruler93]

@@toumabyakuya Given 1) how quickly he adapted to using Hamon at a level thousands of times higher than anyone else ever could, and 2) Ki is an energy innate to all life in the Dragon Ball Universes, I think Kars would become a huge threat if he survived through the Android/Cell Saga.

[@toumabyakuya]

@@jruler93 Thing is that "if he survived through the Android/Cell Saga" is a huge ask already. Kars simply isn't winning here.

[@wilfridekoue1405]

Can't wait for Novel Kars in the future

[@AntiZubat]

Bro wipes the verse easily

[@1Synner]

There are a few things that one needs to consider when it comes to Kars in a universe such as Dragon Ball. The first is that Kars' abilities center around biology 90% of the time. The second is that the Dragon Ball universe centers its powerscaling not on biology, but of spirituality through the use of Ki. Ki tends to be the big factor as to how powerful an entity can be, with most alien races being unable to willingly alter their ki output unlike the Z Fighters (mostly because most alien races don't really understand how ki works above the measurable output). Sure, biology plays a part in it, and special physical traits can be greatly enhanced, but they largely dictated by ki output. This is why Goku, whom has tangoed with physical gods that can destroy a planet by giving it a gentle tap, can still be hurt by common bullets if his guard (his ki) isn't up. Kars COULD learn how to manipulate Ki, but it would come down to how much his body is able to compensate for the excess amount of energy (humans, after all, have a certain soft cap, shown through Krillin), and would come down to how fast he could improve as the fight goes on. Personally, I think he could reach the end of the Frieza Saga (if he learned how ki works), but would eventually be utterly destroyed by Frieza himself by his own constantly (and rapidly) changing body that comes with MASSIVE Ki increases.

[@missyummy1040]

Even though I'm not a fan of Jojo, it is nice to see them mentioned again, almost nostalgic~ (Kumagawa Misogi in DB pwease~)

[@srnova9486]

He gets speedblitzed

[@goldenangel158]

Great video

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

Future Trunks would be the next opportunity I think. Massive power gap and FT has a track record of evaporating enemies.But outside these events and the Mafuba the odds of a permanent win are pretty low going by Dragonball canonical behavior of characters. So I would say 50/50 he would be a good Movie villain to get rid of with the Mafuba.

[@YourLovelyGuy9442]

Idk why people use that trash fanfic published novel as a source for kars, instead of canon kars

[@lucifer6397]

If this is Novel Kars he gets pretty far

[@yvngvudu]

still gets sent to outer space by kid goku

[@brobladeroblox3100]

What does novel kars have?

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

@@brobladeroblox31006 stands (maybe more), and a lot of stuff that makes it sound fan-made. I'm not a fan of the writing, but he would be a threat until Gero can create Androids based on him.

[@error-4269]

What do you mean pretty far? He Solos Dragon Ball.

[@brobladeroblox3100]

@@error-4269 yeah just don't add the z or super

[@HT_Tony]

Just started watching JoJo's too🔥🔥🔥

[@ijudgeanime]

@@HT_Tony JoJo is so goated man! Hope you have a blast with the series

[@Steelersrg8]

You should do Andy from undead unluck. He can regen from someone’s memory.

[@ikeillue8385]

The ironic thing is, Kars getting through the Pilaf saga wouldn't be very straight forward. I still think he would win, but it would require some shenanigans for him to take apart/wiggle his way into their mechs, and there is also a discussion about how long it would take for Kars to make it past the traps in Pilaf's castle. The 21st world martial arts characters easily have the power, speed, and skill to easily handle Kars, but that isn't a lethal tournament, so no one is going to disintegrate his body at that point. It is a legitimately discussion about whether he would beat the Red Ribbon arc. Don't get me wrong, we have seen him handle armies before, but this army has far more troops that what Kars has handled at any one time, androids that are far more powerful than the cyborg in Jojo's (major metallitron would probably be able to handle Kars, in all likelihood.), and tanks/mechs that are minimum capable of firing off ordinances that can destroy mountains (which utterly outclasses even the most powerful things in that arc of Jojo's). But once we get to the King Piccolo arc, its really not a question anymore. These guys casually overpower dudes that can vaporize the moon, which is massive overkill to wipe Kars out. The only way he is surviving this arc, is essentially he hopes that they don't use excessive force killing him instantly, then plays dead. That said, we must wank Kars in order to get all the way to the end of the Cell saga, where he loses for this reason. Kars may be the ultimate lifeform, but Cell is perfect. He is obviously not actually making it that far, but I wanted to make the comparison, just because. :)

[@lucinafailure]

I think another thing to consider is him copying abilities in later arcs, such as Super Saiyan.

[@tgf0cj101]

It's weird seeing Dio and Deku next to each other.

[@ashimbeast4732]

If you give kars the ability to copy biology and ki like he said he might just reach super with his 400iq and him being a natural protgey capable of copying any techniques like kaioken, time skip, hakai and also forms like super sayan and just spaming zenkais.

[@ijudgeanime]

@@ashimbeast4732 I mean sure he might be able to copy them, but he would need to drastically raise his base power because 50 times 0 is still zero

[@ashimbeast4732]

@@ijudgeanime being a Race like the sayan, freeza Race and their mutation already Grants immense power from the start and using zenkais plus his semi immortality grants immense growth rate and if you believe that being broly or freeza mutation Race gives his same potential as them then the dragon ball verse is done for.

[@ice_wallow_come8773]

​@ijudgeanime like before he can copy it and make it millions of times better. Hamon is a lot like ki so he'd just keep growing

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

@@ice_wallow_come8773Kars can’t copy abilities from other fictional universes.

[@ice_wallow_come8773]

@thelettucebarrel7784 says who? BTW stupid argument never it again.

[@Hanashibi]

If Kars didn't grow he'd be Demon King Piccolo level. However if he got his hands on someone like Raditz early on and absorbed him... he'd unlock not just Ki, but understand Saiyan biology, he'd be smart enough to understand the dormant powers, potentual, and with his own regeneration and the Zenkai Boost he'd be able to 'Cheat Zenkai' himself by intentionally inflicting insane amounts of damage on himself for the purpose of intentional biological fortification. He also has insane battle IQ. Meaning he would have the potential to become FAR worse than Cell. Imagine this, Cell needs the Androids to finish himself. Kars simply needs more biological variety and to be introduced to new power types. Imagine for example if he absorbed Raditz, faked his own fall before Nappa and absorbed Nappa and intentionally took critical damage frequently to max out his Zenkai Boost. And casually later descovering the passive, latent abilities of the Super Saiyan. Combined with his own genetic open body, genetic consumption the ability to survive in space now for limited times like a saiyan along with the ability to fly, use Ki in addition to Hamon. I believe Kars biggest danger factor in Dragon Ball is his ability to snowball. Heaven Forbid he manage to absorb even a small part of Frieza like a cut off tail in addition to what he stole from absorbing Saiyan genetics.

[@ginnungagapabyss5639]

He would most likely absorb King Piccolo, face kid Goku, and Goku with no choice would send him into space. Gero after getting that info would get Kars, body, and would use him to form his androids basically making androids that are just like Justice League unlimited Amazo, but they are able to spread it like the doomsday virus.

[@AntiZubat]

Just a suggestion, would you ever think about making a “How Far would Yhwach Get in Dragon Ball”

[@ijudgeanime]

@@AntiZubat From Bleach right? Sure, I can do that in the future

[@juliusbossman7280]

Suggestions: Pegasus Seiya.

[@kingdip91]

I wish I had never learned things don't actually freeze in space the way Kars did in jojo (the space near enough to the sun anyway) because it totally ruined this ending to the character

[@BoomBoxBlaz]

He can't copy alien physiology, if that were the case, he'd have transformed into an alien that could withstand the vacuum of space, and in Part 4, aliens supposedly exist. You're giving him a power he can't actually use.

[@toriodiaz7332]

Saiyans are very similar to humans also he has to understand the lifeform first

[@zero1343]

On that note he has to have seen and understood something to be able to morph into it. If he had met and interacted with aliens who could withstand space then I see no reason why he wouldn't be able to also adapt his own biology to do the same.

[@storyshiftcharaplays7769]

Bro really said sub-ftl part 2. Fucking insane.

[@lazyliongames6660]

Bro would just win since even if he’s erased from the universe he’ll come back

[@watcher314159]

So, first of all, base Kars did literally move faster than Stroheim's laser. And for that matter pre-training arc Joseph and Caesar moved faster than a laser from the Red Stone of Aja. Not to mention all the other FTL scaling from later JoJo's. Dragon Ball power levels get completely jacked between the 21st and 22nd Tenkaichi Budoukai, and even Ultimate Lifeform Kars is very much closer to the standard of the 21st. Touch attacks are also very unreliable in Dragon Ball once ki cloaks start appearing, though before Gohan vs Raditz Roshi's first Kamehameha is the only example. Still worth bearing in mind how Kars' strategies would have to change. Finally, Stands, which can get exceptionally BS. Any skill of supernatural provenance has an associated Stand. Hermit Purple is the Ripple's Stand, Ball Breaker is the Super Spin's, and Pillar Man Modes (to include the Requiem Stand that is the Ultimate Lifeform) are derived from acupuncture. These "Skill Stands" are almost 8% of all Stands in JoJo's, and so as Kars uses his 400 IQ to master all things in his quest for knowledge, his toolkit will expand dramatically. Most of these aren't very scary by Dragon Ball standards, but Ball Breaker is infinitely powerful (and something Kars already has good foundations for, with his familiarity with Wammu's Divine Sandstorm), which would actually make his attack power greater than the Grand Priest and equal to Zeno. And that's before we get into speculation as to what the Stands of Ki and Magic would be. And finally, it should be acknowledged that Kars' scariest ability aside from his learning potential is the ability to bud off clones of himself. This seems to take long enough to do properly that he couldn't create permanent clones against Joseph (though he created a ton of temporary clones), but if he can stay alive long enough and avoid the planet getting exploded it very quickly becomes a key form of insurance against destruction by stronger opponents.

[@vibezonegaming]

Can Kars get far on Dragon Ball? If his start point was early enough in the franchise, then yes. He absorbs humans with ki, his potential would probably be SSJ2ish like Krillin in DBS. He absorbs Namekians, his potential becomes orange piccolo. He absorbs Saiyans, his potential goes to SSJ4 or Broly’s Super Saiyan Ikari mix. (Assuming he encounters no go ki) He finds Frieza at any of those points and becomes as strong as Black Frieza minimum. Buu would never get revived(Kars probably ate Babidi long before the events of the Buu saga along with all of Frieza’s army and randos) Even if Buu did revive, Kars gets that DNA and probably doesn’t even need to alter his DNA to benefit from all the other DNA he absorbed. Beerus shows up. If the Beerus ceiling is higher than Buu with SSJ4, Orange Piccolo, and Black Frieza forms embedded into his DNA, then I can finally understand the complaints of Beerus being an ever moving ceiling of power.

[@vibezonegaming]

He would get all their biological capabilities like the Saiyan forms, Namekian forms, and Frieza forms. If his Hamon was 100s of times stronger than Joseph’s why wouldn’t his Ki be the maximum possible potential?

[@JinLin-s8g]

Kars vs Cell Ultimate life form vs perfect lifeform

[@palm_fangz1018]

Kars is the perfect being on earth he would be like krillin x100

[@pinnedcomment895]

If Kars could actually copy Alien DNA, he could technically just copy angel DNA and just win

[@flyingchairguy2221]

I feel angels are much less aliens are as they are holy beings. I think that sort of puts them on a different spectrum.

[@pinnedcomment895]

@@flyingchairguy2221 Kars still could probably replicate their DNA tbh

[@srnova9486]

@@pinnedcomment895 Here we go with jojo fans making up their own feats,its nowhere stated Kars can do that, he just has DNA from earth animals, THATS IT!

[@pinnedcomment895]

@@srnova9486 I am well aware that it is Earth creature DNA that he has, however given how smart Kars is, if he ever got the chance to meet a G.O.D. or an angel and live, he would likely find some way to replicate their DNA as well

[@srnova9486]

@@pinnedcomment895 Thats just pure headcanon, you are giving him an ability hes never shown or been stated to be able to use

[@____________838]

Kars is Cell/Buu/Baby… in early Dargon Ball power levels.

[@srnova9486]

Building level character with bullet level speeds that can get annihilate by a single ki wave instantly? Sure lol, he caps at early OG DB

[@Robin_Femboy]

GUTS VS DRAGONBALL 😢❤

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

Pretty sure Kars gets slammed by original Dragonball without much thought. No, he does *not* have an instant copy ability.

[@ElijahAshcraft-if1rv]

How far would MCU scarlet witch get in dragon ball

[@ElijahAshcraft-if1rv]

Do scarlet witch

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

One of them, or all 36 of them?

[@itchyteeth7924]

dont let bro copy zenkai or the kioken

[@mAcChaosCh]

roshi blew up the moon in the first db saga lol, kars isnt making it

[@Rjfromoutsouth.04]

The short answer is not very 😭

[@The4thplacer]

Novel kars solos the verse

[@encelade.]

He’s a non canon hax merchant obviously

[@magnetic9089]

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[@error-4269]

How are you going to deny JoJo FTL scaling? That already makes this a bad video that's like saying Goku can only blow up a planet even in super. Tsk tsk tsk that is amateur mistake like come on just pure disappointing.

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

JoJo probably doesn’t get “reliable” FTL scaling until part 3.

[@error-4269]

@@thelettucebarrel7784 that's just wrong go watch Metas.

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

@@error-4269 I’ve seen some of Metas videos, he’s not a very good scaler.

[@error-4269]

@@thelettucebarrel7784 🤨 man is a pioneer of Jojo scaling along side Jober( even though I don't really like him)

[@thelettucebarrel7784]

@@error-4269 No he is not lmao. Jobber is an actually alright scaler, Metas isn’t.