How far would Luffy get in Dragon Ball? (ONE PIECE)

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@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime 4 ай бұрын
I just did an updated video for this one where I feel I did it more fairly! Be sure to check it out. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/boDVeaijidWNp6s
@joeylittle2629
@joeylittle2629 Жыл бұрын
I'm not gunna lie, I absolutley love Luffy and he is one of my favorite protags in anime.. But I don't think he'd get past King Piccolo let alone Raditz.
@hush8469
@hush8469 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you and I’m ok with that
@TheMuddler
@TheMuddler Жыл бұрын
​It takes time for Roshi to use a Kamehameha that is strong enough to blow up the moon and Luffy is definitely faster than Roshi. Also based on the fights in dragon ball it seems that no one has moon-level durability up until Raditz and Nappa. I would say Luffy can bearly win against Radits at best.
@thetriathigamer1544
@thetriathigamer1544 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheMuddler King Piccolo mops the floor with Luffy, he's twice strong as Roshi, who can blow up the moon. Raditz would sneeze on Luffy and Luffy would disintegrate. He was casually soloing Goku and Piccolo. You must be trolling 🤣
@jesuscarino7436
@jesuscarino7436 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Didn't master rochi destroy the moon back in the DB.
@Vision_Officia
@Vision_Officia Жыл бұрын
@@TheMuddler tf?
@Sliberrrrr
@Sliberrrrr Жыл бұрын
Luffy as he is currently isn't getting past roshi in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai, he's moon level at that point and Luffy at most is continental. N he stands no chance against anyone after especially Z characters since he has nothing to damage them, Saiyan saga characters were already planetary
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Жыл бұрын
Thing is the size of luffy earth is 100x bigger so how big could there continents be? Maybe some larger than a moon
@Sliberrrrr
@Sliberrrrr Жыл бұрын
@@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 one piece is way too inconsistent when it comes to sizes to confidentiality say if it's world is bigger than another
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Жыл бұрын
@@Sliberrrrr that’s not true at all but luffy if his world was that size a continent would or have to be larger than the moon and he is continental level +++ low tier planetary really tbh
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Жыл бұрын
And that’s a stretch because Roshi wouldn’t be able to damage luffy unless he used other techniques or mafuba and one buggy ball from one of the antagonists could destroy the whole world tournament and it’s canon that one can destroy a whole town /village and luffy destroys those one hit no problem and that’s early luffy with no buffs
@Sliberrrrr
@Sliberrrrr Жыл бұрын
@@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 you are biased cause there's no way you unironicallu believe this . 1 kameamea n Luffy is finished, no one piece character is doing anything to db characters. Even if you wanna throw g5 into the conversation, early db Is filled with gag abilities + in db if you're stronger than an opponent their hax abilities don't effect you, vegito not being effected by turning into candy, Jiren not being effected and toying with hits time abilities, ect And the size inconsistencies are true, Oden being like 20 ft using Emma then Zoro usin it later should not be realistically possible with their canonical heights. Characters, places n items constantly shrink and grow in one piece so it is too inconsistent to say if the world is bigger or not. Also you've showed no sources or evidence the world is bigger you're just making empty claims. One piece hasn't showed any feats that are anywhere close to low planetary, saying they're continental is being extremely generous. And don't mention the statement of wb having the power to destroy the world, statements ≠ feats. Only thing you could say is one piece characters are faster than early db ones cause db doesn't have any impressive speed feets till the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai
@sonicXstarhedgehog
@sonicXstarhedgehog Жыл бұрын
Luffy can go against people who use a special technique to blow up a city. Nappa just raised to fingers and didn't even scream Shinra Tensei before the city he was in became dust... Saying that Luffy can beat Nappa is ridiculous.
@saygerow
@saygerow Жыл бұрын
i agree luffy is strong in his own right but beating people that can destriy cities with no time and no prep theres no chance
@thechief8754
@thechief8754 Жыл бұрын
So basically you're saying if nappa had laces in his boots that luffy couldn't even lace up nappas boots.
@Nabiruuu
@Nabiruuu Жыл бұрын
@@thechief8754 where did that narrative even form context wise
@thechief8754
@thechief8754 Жыл бұрын
@@Nabiruuu that's what he basically saying... not me ! 🤷‍♂️
@ninjojojo378
@ninjojojo378 Жыл бұрын
Fax, nappa also shook the whole planet by powering up and master roshi in og dragon ball was able to blow up moons so I doubt luffy even gets through raditz by comparison
@Zer0Main43
@Zer0Main43 Жыл бұрын
Truthfully, he probably loses to King Piccolo who is about twice as strong as Roshi who completely vaporized the moon with a full power Kamehameha and if not King Piccolo, he loses to Piccolo Jr who is about twice as strong as him and if you think Luffy could somehow not only contend with but defeat someone roughly 4X above moon level, he gets cleared by Raditz who was able to dominate Goku and Piccolo Jr in a fight simultaneously, there’s just no way that Luffy as he is now could even be argued to go above Raditz in my opinion and honestly saying he could even have a real fight Piccolo Jr is a stretch
@idontwant2beasoldiermama241
@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 Жыл бұрын
King Piccolo is miles ahead of Roshi
@shinji1264
@shinji1264 Жыл бұрын
If he beats king piccolo its by a razor think margin anything after that he loses.
@VTulad
@VTulad Жыл бұрын
Luffy is definitely not getting past many dbz characters BUT He is low star level, the OP world has been stated to be a low star, and diseased old WB can destroy the planet, Luffy now with g5 is easily past old WB, not only this his barjing gun was large to normal planet level, OP character have INSANE DURABILITY and endurance, not just that base luffy at the start of TS is able to dodge light and move ftl EASILY, by wano he gets 200x powerup, as seen when he gets stronger as base in wano than in WCI g4 snakeman, Luffy is lowballed large planet, insane dura, reality bending hax, 200x ftl STOP LOWBALLING LUFFY
@bloocarracer333
@bloocarracer333 Жыл бұрын
@@VTulad Strength isn’t the same as destructive power
@amareyk
@amareyk Жыл бұрын
@@VTulad one piece d rider
@unoreversecard8590
@unoreversecard8590 Жыл бұрын
Power levels were never stated to be inaccurate they were only stopped being used because being could fluctuate their power AKA suppress themselves
@lightyoshiman
@lightyoshiman Жыл бұрын
power levels were never meant to be taken seriously hell when radtiz first introduced the concept he quickly discarded it because the reading's were everywhere he thought gohan was just a little snot then his power shot up too high, he thought goku and especially Piccolo where a non-threat to him then they used their moves and their power level's shot up too high hell when Nappa and vegeta first encountered piccolo and the others vegeta before they even did anything told Nappa to get rid of his scouter because the reading's weren't reliable
@calmcraft5852
@calmcraft5852 Жыл бұрын
@@lightyoshiman Raditz said power level can't always be trusted due to things like suppression, but it's never implied the number itself is inaccurate. At the time of the power increase a scouter was still a good measure of strength, and if it wasn't they wouldn't use the number for reference books. If Raditz, who was still much stronger than goku and piccolo, can easily destroy the moon and arguably earth it's hard to say luffy has a chance at all. The only thing he can bet on is his endurance but Luffy doesn't have resistance to energy blasts, and you could make the argument that ki control could give Raditz access to haki like qualities. There's no character in OP that could OBLITERATE a moon the way Rosh and Piccolo do.
@tastedivinefury2198
@tastedivinefury2198 Жыл бұрын
He really said a bunch of nothing lol
@calronkeltaran493
@calronkeltaran493 Жыл бұрын
@@lightyoshiman well power levels where more of a plot point than a real measure of power to give the Z fighters an advantage. apparently hiding your power is a skill that almost noone has. that is why at the beginning, shouters are used to shout strong enemies and why opponents often rely on their scouters to find the z fighters, who can just power down and hide.
@NIKEONXX
@NIKEONXX Жыл бұрын
That is litteraly is why power levels even were created. Right when radditz shows up it shows gohan being shit but still be able to rise his strenght. That is the immediate lesson learned. Again with nappa and goku, vegeta against goku straight up ditch his scooter. And later on the namek saga vegeta teaches this same lesson to the freeza forces. Wich by then power level were already starting to dissapear by the cell saga.
@marcellinarosales6362
@marcellinarosales6362 Жыл бұрын
So modern Yamcha can defeat Luffy okay
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the scaling he could which is insane because yamcha was considered fodder for his lack of training after Dragon Ball* ended before Z
@coolbeans3752
@coolbeans3752 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Жыл бұрын
But he could get wrecked 2
@inferstrike3544
@inferstrike3544 Жыл бұрын
@@IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 He got alot stronger after the king kai training
@scarlessyt
@scarlessyt Жыл бұрын
Yamcha could solo most anime verses so it’s not really surprising
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, Luffy stops at King Piccolo. Piccolo casually manhandles Roshi, who blew up the friggin moon, then he regained his youth and grew massively more powerful. Luffy is strong, but as far as I'm aware, he isn't taking the moon out of the sky.
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
Puffy she giants as fodder
@mjkelly8460
@mjkelly8460 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you
@tastedivinefury2198
@tastedivinefury2198 Жыл бұрын
He does tbh
@dixondaqua
@dixondaqua Жыл бұрын
that’s what i’m saying i’m a luffy fan but naruto does better then luffy DBZ is just another level
@joj5150
@joj5150 Жыл бұрын
Well he doesn't have access to energy beams, so of course he's not gonna take out the moon. but he absolutely, if he didn't suffocate in space, could obliterate the moon. Roshi, on the other hand, could not punch the moon apart. The moon argument is so fucking stupid.
@helixsol7171
@helixsol7171 Жыл бұрын
I think "the only limit is his imagination" refers more to HOW Luffy fights in Gear 5 rather than how STRONG he is. Like how creatively he uses his ability to stretch and manipulate himself, the environment, and others. So Gear 5 should be perfectly scaleable, all things considered.
@floppercock5652
@floppercock5652 Жыл бұрын
yeah I would think that way as well but some people really just want him to be immortal God. Like same type of people saying Saitama is unbeatable because his power is "limitless" even though it just means he can go beyond what human is capable of. So I guess it's fair for him to not piss some people off.
@Flipitmixit
@Flipitmixit Жыл бұрын
Right? I dont even watch 1piece and even I understand they mean more of green lantern thing
@Servalc_kenshin
@Servalc_kenshin Жыл бұрын
It would be but people just can’t agree on it yet plus we’ve only seen like 1 chapter of the form so we don’t have much to go off of. We don’t really know the limits of the form besides how long luffy can stay in it
@danksouls6128
@danksouls6128 Жыл бұрын
@@Servalc_kenshin we've seen it in more than just the kaido fight
@rexviperfan
@rexviperfan Жыл бұрын
​@@Servalc_kenshin We've seen it explicitly stated that it turns his environment into rubber. Nowhere does it say anything about imagination. In the two times we've seen him use it, he doesn't do anything unexpected. I think people took the whole "comic strip art-style" + "sun god nika" and made a lot of assumptions, like that Luffy has imagination powers, or that the Sun God Nika is anything more than a title.
@stickydoodle8198
@stickydoodle8198 Жыл бұрын
The same argument you gave for Frieza can be applied to Vegeta. It's been stated in official guide books that he is indeed planet level. And he's far stronger in his great ape form. Even if you choose not to believe that He's planet level, There is no way it would take him days to destroy a country especially when He's far stronger than early piccolo Who destroyed the moon, Who by the way, is weaker than raditz, who is far weaker than that same base Vegeta.
@Amartin-mu6oj
@Amartin-mu6oj Жыл бұрын
​@loxt2 Tbf you don't typically use filler when scaling characters. That scene isn't canon, but yes he definitely is planet level
@thechadyboi6691
@thechadyboi6691 Жыл бұрын
​@@Amartin-mu6oj even if you dont bring in filler vegita himself said even as a child he was stronger then his father king vegita And it was shown that just waving his hand king vegita blew up 3 large planets
@Amartin-mu6oj
@Amartin-mu6oj Жыл бұрын
@@thechadyboi6691 King Vegeta destroying 3 planets wasn't canon either, but either way I already know he's planetary, it says it in the guidebook
@thechadyboi6691
@thechadyboi6691 Жыл бұрын
@@Amartin-mu6oj well actually fun fact Atoyayama actually admitted that the filler he over looked in the anime was canon This doesn't go for super though
@Amartin-mu6oj
@Amartin-mu6oj Жыл бұрын
@@thechadyboi6691 Well actually, source or it didn't happen. Also not relevant to manga canon, which is default in these discussions. I'm not sure why you mentioned super
@ten-thousandbees8453
@ten-thousandbees8453 Жыл бұрын
Love the video but I gotta disagree. Considering in the world of Dragon ball, your attack potency would match your durability and considering that Master Roshi blew up the moon with full Power and Demon King Piccolo murdered him Luffy would stop at him. Keep in mind that someone of the likes of Frieza survived Namek's destruction even after being cut in half. Or Goku blasting himself with the Kamehameha at full Power and dont even have a scratch on him. He also Punched Frieza's Death ball out of space because be was stronger then him. Not to mention, Radtiz himself would beat Luffy as well considering he wasn't trying to kill Goku but he wanted to recruit him. Makes since when you think anout it since Piccolo destroyed the moon with reltive ease. Kid Goku also has FTL feats when he countered Tien's solar flare while it was being used by stealing Roshi's sunglasses. Most of the Fillers that Toriyama worked on are also cannon too and been interviewed on it so you could look up on his questions and answers in the Daizentsuu. So Vegeta stopping by at that bug planet can be considered Cannon as well and we all know unlike Goku it's very difficult to catch Vegeta lacking. We'd also need to take in account of combat speed and traveling speed since in Dragon ball the stronger you get the faster you'd get as well. Master Roshi's and Krillin's fight took about 0.2 seconds and they had to explain to the audiance what happened or when it took Goku less then a half a day to get back to snake way to earth and Snakeway is a million kilometers long.
@Marx-Mnyanda
@Marx-Mnyanda Жыл бұрын
Exactly a lot of people sleep on OG dragon ball feats
@Kakaragi
@Kakaragi Жыл бұрын
agreed
@SullivanDLuffy
@SullivanDLuffy Жыл бұрын
I can beat almost Everyone in Dragon Ball almost Every Vegeta and Goku Yeah I said it
@anjolaoluwalarayetan9713
@anjolaoluwalarayetan9713 Жыл бұрын
@@SullivanDLuffy keep your joke to yourself
@SullivanDLuffy
@SullivanDLuffy Жыл бұрын
What joke😁 @@anjolaoluwalarayetan9713 when I know I can do something I well go and say it out loud so Again What Joke
@CosmicGoku529
@CosmicGoku529 Жыл бұрын
Guess you forgot that Saiyan Saga Vegeta can blow up planets. Now I haven't really watched One Piece, but I am guessing Luffy has never fought someone powerful enough to blow up a planet in one shot.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
Nah I remembered that but I tried not to use it due to the weird inconsistencies of Dragon Ball. Back in og DB roshi could blow up the moon but Raditz for example was seemingly not capable of a similar feat despite being many times stronger. Vegeta destroying planet Arlia is also filler. Saiyan saga Vegeta claimed to be able to destroy a planet like Earth, but we never actually saw him prove that he could destroy a planet (at least in the canon media) at that point in time
@Fnalix
@Fnalix Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime What makes you think that Raditz is seemingly not capable of doing a similar feat? He wouldn't want to blow up Earth, because he would not be able to breathe and would die when he could instead just kill goku. But I don't think that at any point he shows he can't. I feel like that would be like saying there is no proof goku is planetary until battle of gods, because he is never shown to do it besides fighting foes that can. Vegeta could also definitely destroy the earth, for two reasons. One, Nappa blew up a city with two fingers, and Vegeta completely blitzed Nappa with ease, and two, there is no reason for Vegeta to be bluffing. The second point is definitely not as strong, so I want to hammer in the fact that Nappa blew up an entire city with two FINGERS, got killed with absolute ease by Vegeta, and then the same man who made Nappa look like a joke charged a full strength galick gun right at the earth, which is many times stronger than a regular ki blast, let alone two fingers from a much weaker character that still wiped out a city. So I really see no reason that the galick gun would not be able to destroy the earth besides low-balling him for the sake of a longer video (which I get, but I still think it's a bit too cherry-picky).
@stickydoodle8198
@stickydoodle8198 Жыл бұрын
It's stated in the guide books that base Vegeta can destroy a planet. And great ape is even stronger. Saying that it would take the great ape forms of Vegeta and Nappa days to destroy a country is silly lol. Piccolo earlier in the arc vaporized the moon with ease, that same piccolo is far stronger than Roshi, and Raditz should scale above him. And base Vegeta and Nappa are far stronger than Raditz. even if you don't believe that the great ape forms are planet level, saying they'll take days to destroy a country is just blatantly false since they can casually one shot moon level + characters.
@123GOHANZ
@123GOHANZ Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime Raditz casually tanked an attack that could obliterate the moon(the kamehameha) and was far stronger than Piccolo at the time who destroyed it with a generic ki blast. Basic scaling says he could do the same especially since attack potency/durability is proportionate to each other in Dragon Ball. What you consider inconsistency is in actuality Ki control
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
@xana7617 Nah I get all your argumentd for sure and I respect your opinion. It's just that Dragon Ball has a lot of inconsistencies. Saiyan Saga Vegeta is actually never seen destroying a planet in canon material (Planet Arlia is not canon). He says he can destroy the earth but that could have been anger filled bravado for all we know. And the thing with the moon busting is that DB and early DBZ did not really have a power level system in place yet. Toriyama kinda winged it. But my point is that it is incredibly difficult to accurately distinguish what is an oversight, what is an inconsistency, what was just left out, etc. But everything is just made for entertainment anyway so both opinions are fine.
@phloriaernas2149
@phloriaernas2149 Жыл бұрын
This guy forgot General Blue can leap into the clouds/ free fall from the clouds into the ground with his pure leg strength, no damage to his legs whatsoever. General Blue, Namu, and the high level warriors who can handle them for a while (Tao Pai - Pai, Kid Goku, Kid Krilin, Kid Chiaotsu, Yajirobe, high end Budokai Finalists) have similar physical strength. Namu once leapt into the clouds and from that height he dropped down and hit Kid Goku's neck with a double karate chop. Kid Goku survived. Super leg strength and arm strength for Namu. He received zero drawback from that move, no damage to his legs and arms. And he did that move multiple times, claimed it was his best move. It means he wasn't a ki fighter and already that strong. Also super neck strength for Kid Goku to survive that move. ... This is the era where ki usage is at the top 1 % (Kame School and Tsuru School). But even with that, guys who didn't use ki like Namu, etcs; can kill people with a simple tap, because of their super strength. ... Also General Blue survived getting headbutted from Japan to Egypt. Thats crazy durability. This is the casual level of the best martial artists in OG Dragon Ball. Heck Tao Pai Pai can kill Blue with his tongue, now that I think about it, it make sense because he uses ki on top of his super strength. ... Then there is King Piccolo, who can easily defeat them all including Roshi, who can destroy the moon.
@mee091000
@mee091000 Жыл бұрын
Well Nam had Ki I'm pretty sure. He just could not use it at the same level as the top 1% you are referring to. He could detect the strength of others based off of their attacks remember?
@phloriaernas2149
@phloriaernas2149 Жыл бұрын
@@mee091000 Well yes more likely that. He can fight blindfolded. It means he has enchanced sense. But no ki enchancing stats. Remember at the First Budokai in the series Krilin literaly had no ki arsenals at this point and he can trade blows with Goku and Roshi just fine. And he sent his Monk bully straight into horizon with a single kick. And he was holding back. Their physical strength are already amazing.
@metalmario1231
@metalmario1231 Жыл бұрын
yeah but luffy is made of rubber...no double karate chop is doing shit to him
@phloriaernas2149
@phloriaernas2149 Жыл бұрын
@@metalmario1231 How bout one lick from Tao pai Pai? Roshi Moon Busting? King Piccolo?
@mee091000
@mee091000 Жыл бұрын
@@metalmario1231 What matters is who that Karate chop is coming from. Now personally I don't think Nam has a chance against Luffy. But there are MANY characters in Dragon Ball who are Karate chopping Luffy in half.
@skiburc2252
@skiburc2252 Жыл бұрын
Bro said no bias then kept saying 'I'm gonna give luffy the benefit of the doubt' 💀
@Jerry2n1
@Jerry2n1 Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂😂😂
@davidpickemup2821
@davidpickemup2821 Жыл бұрын
Luffy is barely continental, he loses to og dragon ball characters, and that being generous, his durability isnt strong enough for him to withstand any moon buster and above attacks
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
Harp washed an entire island with one ouch and said he’s not as strong as he used to be
@davidpickemup2821
@davidpickemup2821 Жыл бұрын
@@ladarius41able an island pales in comparison to the size of a continent dude, that’s a baby feat you just gave compared to even og db
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
@@davidpickemup2821 if he can neg an island what stopping him from Destroying an entire continent
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
I also forgot to mention there are monster that are called continent pullers
@davidpickemup2821
@davidpickemup2821 Жыл бұрын
@@ladarius41able what’s stopping him is the fact that he doesn’t have the power to destroy a continent in one hit, no one piece character could, being called a continent puller is just a statement and also pulling doesn’t equal AP, no one in one peice has high enough AP to one shot a continent where as og db has characters with AP strong enough to destroy the moon
@almightyloaf6223
@almightyloaf6223 Жыл бұрын
This video was really well put and I’m actually amazed on what specific scenarios would have to take place in order for Luffy to win however. Given what’s been presented and known even back to dragon ball itself…….I would have to say luffy would hard stop at demon king piccolo. As for why?, given what master roshi did at the tenkichi budokai tournament he was able to blow up the moon given smaller than the earth still a feat of its own right and what we saw of demon king piccolo he toppled that roshi with little to no effort so given that luffy although strong wouldn’t be able to contend with him and if he found a way then raditz would be the ultimate stopping point.
@almightyloaf6223
@almightyloaf6223 Жыл бұрын
And let’s not even talk about vegeta and nappa they blew up a planet with little to no effort when they were introduced 😭
@randomgeeseinatrenchcoat4775
@randomgeeseinatrenchcoat4775 Жыл бұрын
I mean tbf most characters even in Z have been shown to not be able to tank a planetary exploration, even Freiza avoiding using planetary destroying attacks while in range of it, wanting to get the fuck out after he set a timer of Namek, and Luffy being extremely nimble and having great dodging skills, especially in his gears, shooting a planetary destroying blast would also mean killing yourself too since he could just dodge it. There's also the fact that those kinds of attacks for Roshi and King Picalo take time to charge and Luffy would absolutely not wait for that. Seeing as all the fights in this video are 1:1 the king would simply not have enough time and would be smart enough not to launch one of those kinds of attacks at Luffy. Raditiz is a far different story however due to him having far greater ki control having abilities capable of moving after being launched though I still believe Luffy could win due to his greater speed in his gears that would be a much tougher fight with a lot of land getting scorched as Raditiz attempts to fry Luffy while Luffy waits for an opening.
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 Жыл бұрын
Random Geese In A Trench Coat Frieza only wanted to get the hell out of dodge because Goku was beating his ahh. If the planet's explosion was a threat to him, then he would have died from it after being blasted by SSJ Goku after being cut in half after a while of getting the stuffing beat out of him by Goku (who confirmed he was losing energy very fast due to the beating). Instead, he got picked up by dad and was damn near bolted back together. Though Frieza is a survivalist outlier even by Dragon Ball standards. In Dragon Ball, you can mostly tank what you can dish out. Normal ki attacks like beam attacks and energy balls do not wipe out a fighter of similar power unless they are already critically injured (in which case, their power drops and they are no longer of equal power). Only specialized Ki attacks, which usually condense their AoE, can mortally wound someone of equal or sometimes greater power. Which also leads into my next point. Ki in Dragon Ball can be condensed. The premier example of this is the Special Beam Cannon. Piccolo uses it, condenses enough power in his fingertips to rival the power of someone many times his strength, then releases it. When it misses the first time, it hits a mountain and only blows up a portion of the mountain. A little bit later, it is shown that Piccolo could blow up the moon with a normal ki blast. So the Special Beam Cannon, while more powerful, has a smaller AoE than that ki blast. Thus, they don't have to worry about destroying the planet, even with attacks that technically carry enough energy to do so (unless they are using so much of their own power that it is hard to control, like Vegeta's Final Flash in the Cell Saga). This is why you see ki blasts only crack a few tiles even later on in Super, where the high tiers are fully capable of wiping out universes with their attacks.
@cameronballz6154
@cameronballz6154 Жыл бұрын
Yeah planet level feats are standard in DBZ Even Raditz could scale that high if you're generous
@maritimesteak8540
@maritimesteak8540 Жыл бұрын
Honestly piccolo and Goku would stop him before that
@cameronballz6154
@cameronballz6154 Жыл бұрын
Luffy: I fear no man...but that... *THING* *Yamcha exists* It scares me
@tiagovaz3667
@tiagovaz3667 Жыл бұрын
bro XD XD u made me laugh
@TheDiamondBladeHD
@TheDiamondBladeHD Жыл бұрын
thats pretty much any anime verse if you put yamcha against them, or in that sense any dragon ball character
@yandelentertainment3.027
@yandelentertainment3.027 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, Luffy is not getting past the first world tournament arc because in OG dragon ball we had characters who could destroy the planet if they wanted to mean King Piccolo, Goku, Piccolo jr, and a few more.
@mee091000
@mee091000 Жыл бұрын
King Piccolo, Goku, and Piccolo Jr. were not planet level at that point. They could more or less surface wipe and easily destroy the moon though. Still FAR beyond Luffy though.
@drico2688
@drico2688 Жыл бұрын
​@mee091000 how is luffy about moon level? Since when he preformed a feat soo?
@TheMuddler
@TheMuddler Жыл бұрын
​It takes time for Roshi to use a Kamehameha that is strong enough to blow up the moon and Luffy is definitely faster than Roshi. Also based on the fights in dragon ball it seems that no one has moon-level durability up until Raditz and Nappa. I would say Luffy can bearly win against Radits at best.
@calumgorman3481
@calumgorman3481 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMuddler roshi hit the moon in 12 seconds the moon being approx 380,000 km away that means he was moving 30,220,125.7862 m/s which is a relativistic and one step down from the speed of light , power is directly tied to speed in dragon ball and if he can fire something that fast he can move that fast
@mee091000
@mee091000 Жыл бұрын
@@drico2688 Wtf are you even implying that I said
@ItzSyther
@ItzSyther Жыл бұрын
Now correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason Goku got his body back from Ginyu was simply because Ginyu was distracted by Vegeta and in a one on one fight it'd just be Ginyu and Luffy. So why would Luffy beat Ginyu in such a circumstance? He's by himself and the moment Ginyu gets his body there ain't no getting it back.
@Marlon-dj6wk
@Marlon-dj6wk Жыл бұрын
Ginyu would not even want luffys body
@joshuathealt3978
@joshuathealt3978 Жыл бұрын
@@Marlon-dj6wk Fr. Luffy is basically like a ant compared to Ginyu.
@Gogetasolos2314
@Gogetasolos2314 Жыл бұрын
@@Marlon-dj6wkfr😂
@MannyBlackiao
@MannyBlackiao Жыл бұрын
As an avid One Piece fan, who’s caught up to the manga, I’m amazed that this video went passed the saiyan saga. More so by how you got it there. There’s a lot of one piece feats which put characters at FTL and there’s the fact that the one piece world is ridiculously large (albeit a little inconsistent),but you still got luffy to even Ginyu without that. I think luffy can survive most of these fights because of things like future sight but definitely won’t be winning much. But when it’s all set and done vegeta easily destroyed that bug planet before getting to earth, there’s no feat to this point that indicates Luffy could withstand that type of damage.
@phlpcockrell
@phlpcockrell Жыл бұрын
I got to agree. I'm a much bigger fan of OP. He MAYBE gets through Nappa but he's not gonna blitz vegeta and one tap him for the win.
@khalilnevels8926
@khalilnevels8926 Жыл бұрын
Whats future sight gon do when Buu blows up the planet?
@clasyykaz6190
@clasyykaz6190 Жыл бұрын
He may have future sight but it's useless if he can't keep up with them, if kid Goku training with Kami was dodging lightning then every character in Z which is hundreds to thousands of times stronger than that kid Goku would also be hundreds to thousands of times faster than that kid Goku. Truth is Luffy who I'll say is capable of moving faster than light is getting blitzed by Raditz and won't even stand a chance against Nappa.
@SkyReaperOne
@SkyReaperOne Жыл бұрын
So... Should I tell you when DB characters started popping off FTL feats? Goku was still tiny boi back then. :D Heck, one of his signature moves in early DB was to create an after-image of himself, and in most cases, (including this one), that would only work if you can go FTL. It's one of the few techniques he DIDN't steal from someone else. XD Heck, in one tournament where Krilin was fighting against Jackie Choun (Master Roshi in disguise), they had an exchange that lasted 0.2 seconds, that they re-created in slow mo for the crowd to explain all the shenanigans they pulled in said time. One of said shenanigans was playing a round of some game akin to rock paper scissors. And that was before King Picolo came out. The big difference here is that Toryama didn't make a big deal of FTL feats and just went with "dilated time" to let the reader know what was going on whereas it's ALWAYS a big deal whenever someone goes fast in One Piece. Sorry to say, but Lufy's feats only seem more impressive because the art direction is phenomenal for the action in One Piece. I would be surprised if Lufy could hurt King Picolo in any meaningful way and would go as far as to say that I wouldn't be surprised if Krilin from the DB era could beat Lufy. What is epic and daunting in Onepiece was played for gags in DB. It's hard to get a proper read on them.
@poopieman5448
@poopieman5448 Жыл бұрын
Luffy cant even survive drowning in sea let alone a planet getting blown up to bits..
@Theone551
@Theone551 Жыл бұрын
He’s not getting passed the Saiyan saga😂
@DensetsuNoSupaSaiyajin
@DensetsuNoSupaSaiyajin Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, but it’s debateble if Luffy can even make Raditz flinch 💀
@MS-je7sn
@MS-je7sn Жыл бұрын
Yet he damaged super Saiyan goku 💀
@superkevin_021
@superkevin_021 Жыл бұрын
@@MS-je7sn if you're taking about the crossover of One piece, Toriko and DBZ, that's non canon. They nerfed Goku extremely bad
@tastedivinefury2198
@tastedivinefury2198 Жыл бұрын
Luffy ignores durability..raditz gets one shot if he gets hit
@swian9440
@swian9440 Жыл бұрын
@@tastedivinefury2198 oh why didnt luffy just 1 shot kaido if thats the case?
@remade929
@remade929 Жыл бұрын
@@tastedivinefury2198 stupid statement demon king piccolo shits on him
@mathewo.6501
@mathewo.6501 Жыл бұрын
Gonna say this before watching the video, Luffy definitely sweeps early db and king piccolo, might have an issue with piccolo Jr, raditz might MIGHT be a toss up but he definitely gets stomped by vegeta and Napa Post video: alright I was pretty much right for the most part, also gotta consider that vegeta can keep up with opponents roughly 1.5 times stronger than him as it took goku going kaiokenX2 and X3 just to fight on even ground and overpower vegeta. Vegeta can also destroy small planets as seen by I'm destroying a planet early on and him stating he'd blow up the earth with his galick gun. Vegeta is definitely overkill WITHOUT his great ape form, Napa I can sorta see Luffy pulling a win out but with how brutal Napa is I think he can just out damage him luffy would need to get really lucky to beat nappa.
@mathewo.6501
@mathewo.6501 Жыл бұрын
Even if I'm overestimating vegetas kaioken response feat he can definitely keep up with someone relative to him who's blitzing him which I don't see luffy being able to blitz vegeta
@TheUnseenPath
@TheUnseenPath Жыл бұрын
Plus Nappa isn't very smart.
@joemomma6317
@joemomma6317 Жыл бұрын
In what world does luffy stand a chance against nappa😭
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget how durable Vegeta is, he fought people (presumably) stronger than Luffy for hours, and kept getting back up. He's the villainous version of a protagonist second wind taken to the extreme. For Luffy to defeat Vegeta, pretty much everything that is theoretically possible has to go right for him, since Vegeta is typically a "noob-gate" for cross universe fights.
@jabu1591
@jabu1591 Жыл бұрын
@@TheUnseenPath Nappa doesn’t need to be smart to beat Luffy. Luffy doesn’t have the means to hurt him
@Flarrow179
@Flarrow179 Жыл бұрын
The whole video is “yeah they destroy luffy but I still think luffy can win”
@omenxxg
@omenxxg Жыл бұрын
frs
@Alhadees963
@Alhadees963 Жыл бұрын
Yamcha : this looks like a Job for me
@wowmeme7309
@wowmeme7309 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I’m sure Luffy would at least be able to beat Chiaotzu…? Maybe?
@sipsopdipdop2711
@sipsopdipdop2711 Жыл бұрын
sayain saga, non goku, z fighters is about how far in terms of heroes
@Flipitmixit
@Flipitmixit Жыл бұрын
Hard maybe
@whowontho
@whowontho Жыл бұрын
Daizenshuu 7 says Chaiotzu has a power level of 610 during the Saiyan invasion. Master Roshi has 139 according to the same guide. Chaiotzu has a PL 4.38x higher than moon buster Roshi in the Saiyan Saga. If we include anime filler, after training with King Kai, Chaiotzu was able to beat Guldo. Luffy is a Chaiotzu victim.
@jakeybakey4271
@jakeybakey4271 Жыл бұрын
Going into this, Luffy is not planet buster, so not up to nappa, so raditz at the max, but even that’s pushing it
@5koby4
@5koby4 Жыл бұрын
Nah he's getting stopped at King Piccolo
@lundoren5240
@lundoren5240 Жыл бұрын
@@5koby4 prolly I thought same thing but one piece and dbz both hard asf to scale in speed ngl. Cause dragonball should be able to move 100000000000000x the speed of light now. 🤣 like they should basically just appear in their final destination. And in one piece Rayleigh says humans need haki to react to light speed but then pre timeskip Zoro and luffy have light speed feats. And kizaru is shown to speed up after going faster than light.
@duskycat2326
@duskycat2326 Жыл бұрын
Im a huge fan of both animes. And this is very fair. Frieza could just kill Luffy off the bat because luffy would indeed annoy him 🤣
@thechadyboi6691
@thechadyboi6691 Жыл бұрын
Not even that Raditz would do the same nothing luffy can do can even damage the porcupine 😢
@metalmario1231
@metalmario1231 Жыл бұрын
@@thechadyboi6691 incorrect...pretty sure gear fourth king kong gun would do some damage
@thechadyboi6691
@thechadyboi6691 Жыл бұрын
@@metalmario1231 I'm not sure King Kong gun can destroy planets Because in dragon ball your AP scales to your defence So to even damage raditz luffy would need to have planet busting ap And at best he has continental+ levels of ap
@lightyoshiman
@lightyoshiman Жыл бұрын
@@thechadyboi6691 no it doesn't goku and the others have either been killed or injured by thing's weaker than them never forget the finger beam in super
@calmcraft5852
@calmcraft5852 Жыл бұрын
@@lightyoshiman They have to be caught off guard. That would be the same as Luffy being stabbed without haki. Remember, Cell saga goku got hurt by a rock in ssj then fought cell who took on a well equipped military just to pass the time. Defense in Dragon ball is ridiculously high when characters aren't getting sneaked.
@seyorin3719
@seyorin3719 Жыл бұрын
Honestly you were definitely very generous to Luffy in the Vageta and Nappa fight but overall I'm inclined to agree as Luffy's luck is ABSOLUTELY insane
@PublicDudeBaby
@PublicDudeBaby Жыл бұрын
Vegeta literally was gonna destroy earth when Goku stopped him with his Kamehameha wave, Luffy could never counter that level of power.
@imranshishir1947
@imranshishir1947 Жыл бұрын
"Power levels are bullshit." Uses the same power levels to gauge their powers.
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 Жыл бұрын
Remember when roshi during the 21st budokai vaporized the moon?Luffy aint doing shit to him.The one piece verse has never been potrayed to be strong. The one piece verse when a half dying,old,6th stage cancer king piccolo enters the planet💀💀
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
Hey there, guys! I am currently working on a similar video to this one, but with Naruto in the spotlight instead of Luffy. During my research on Naruto vs. Dragon Ball I have concluded that I have definitely been too lenient on Luffy. After careful consideration, I have to say that Luffy definitely caps at Raditz. Maybe there is an argument that he can beat Nappa somehow, but I no longer see him capable of defeating Saiyan Saga Vegeta or anything beyond that. Sorry for the confusion, everyone! (Once the Naruto vs. Dragon Ball video releases, I will add it to this comment.)
@DzBPlays
@DzBPlays Жыл бұрын
Yaaaaaaaaay
@saadaziz1413
@saadaziz1413 Жыл бұрын
ARCHIE SONIC
@ikeillue8385
@ikeillue8385 Жыл бұрын
Its nice to see creators admit mistakes, and be willing to correct them. Though, even putting Luffy on King Piccolo level is being massively generous. Roshi literally blows up the moon in the 21st world martial arts tournament, has 3 years of getting stronger, then gets absolutely bodied by King Piccolo, who proceeds to wish for his youth to be restored, increasing his power even further. As far as I'm aware, even in Gear 5, Luffy doesn't have any feats that are even close to moon busting, which would still not even close to what he would need to match up to King Piccolo.
@rneico14
@rneico14 Жыл бұрын
don't forget they have help from Goku and the others.
@BootyAndFries
@BootyAndFries Жыл бұрын
​@@saadaziz1413archie sonic vs the dbh verse. goodluck!
@DzBPlays
@DzBPlays Жыл бұрын
So are we just going to forget that Vegeta destroyed a whole planet with a single blast? Aight.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
Vegeta destroying planet Arlia was a non canon filler episode. We actually never saw saiyan saga vegeta destroy a planet in canon material so I did not include that feat for this video
@DzBPlays
@DzBPlays Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime He said he was going to destroy earth with the Galic Gun.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
@@DzBPlays Yeah that's true for sure but It could have just been him Being very very angry and making an exagerated threat. I do believe he could have done some damage for sure but early DB and DBZ power scaling really makes little sense tbh
@DzBPlays
@DzBPlays Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime Piccolo did destroy the moon soooooooooo... if we look at purely the story implications then you are probably right.
@123GOHANZ
@123GOHANZ Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime It’s confirmed in guides that Vegeta was going to destroy the Earth. He wasn’t making an empty threat. Especially since just earlier in the arc we saw Piccolo at the beginning of his training obliterate the moon like it was nothing
@trisxart2393
@trisxart2393 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad you actually went by arc instead of one piece fans assuming that luffy can go against super saiyan blue, ultra instinct or even namek goku
@bigpoggers6507
@bigpoggers6507 Жыл бұрын
The amount of G5 overwankers here is insane, even if we give him that overwank and say he can do anything he imagines, frieza speedblitzes and uses telekinesis to just kill him, G5 ain't doing shit to being blown up from the inside, this man has minor toon force at best, he is not Buggs Bunny or something, he just acts like you would expect an idiot made out of rubber to in Gear 5
@bigpoggers6507
@bigpoggers6507 Жыл бұрын
And just in case anybody thinks that the toon force would be enough, it just gets negated because DB characters negate hacks when they're stronger than the opponent lmao
@TheGodGemini
@TheGodGemini Жыл бұрын
Nobody: . . . . . Smartest One Piece fan:
@nahuelkid
@nahuelkid Жыл бұрын
Pretty dissapointed on this video. I expected some breakdown on how Armament Haki or even Conqueror Haki, combined with his superior speed, was gonna get him through the foes that easily outstat him starting with King Piccolo, but nothing. Very basic overall disregarding the power systems of both verses and their peak feats.
@thecoolbros4868
@thecoolbros4868 Жыл бұрын
😂 how did he got close to planet level Edit : so much for eliminating “bias”
@HumanB312
@HumanB312 Жыл бұрын
Luffy is no where near moon level so he isn't touching Ginyu
@metalmario1231
@metalmario1231 Жыл бұрын
wrong about the not touching part...you don't need to destroy a moon to land one massive ass punch
@DirtyDev
@DirtyDev Жыл бұрын
@@metalmario1231 ginyu is millions of times faster than light, Luffy is not touching him
@thatcreepyguyinthecorner8151
@thatcreepyguyinthecorner8151 Жыл бұрын
Raditz ….. “I’m just gonna fly up now”
@jabu1591
@jabu1591 Жыл бұрын
Luffy stops at Raditz and that if he can get past Piccolo Jr at the end of dragon ball. Jr was much stronger than Roshi who blew up the moon. Raditz was at least 10 times stronger than the Roshi who performed the moon busting so he should comfortably one shot Luffy. Luffy should scale under end of Dragon Ball Goku and Jr since they would be sitting around moon level
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
There’s literally an admiral that causally summons meteors
@mrfamer3752
@mrfamer3752 Жыл бұрын
@@ladarius41able are meteors planet level? wont they just destory the surface of a planet if anything?
@ladarius41able
@ladarius41able Жыл бұрын
True true but what’s stopping him from spamming them 🤔
@jabu1591
@jabu1591 Жыл бұрын
@@ladarius41able that’s not strong at all. Roshi with a power level around 100 blew up the moon so Fujitoros power level is like 50 at most
@jabu1591
@jabu1591 Жыл бұрын
@@ladarius41able He could spam meteors but that wouldn’t kill anyone once you get to DBZ. Prime mike Tyson is a beast compared to humans but if he went up to an elephant and spammed punches the elephant would just sit there. Same concept, dbz has a high durability
@NicoBellisarioMusic
@NicoBellisarioMusic Жыл бұрын
Roshi is literally small planetary since dragonball beginning
@MrQuarantine
@MrQuarantine Жыл бұрын
Luffy stops at Nappa. You are grossly overrating luffy's power. Goku had to use kaioken to bring him down. Luffy dosent have the damage output necessary to stop Nappa.
@XJSPlays02
@XJSPlays02 Жыл бұрын
goku really didn't need the kaioken just to bring nappa down before using it goku handle nappa with such ease he only used kaioken just catch up to him since he was going after krillin and gohan if they continue their fight goku would win no kaioken needed
@DannyLee-zv9gl
@DannyLee-zv9gl Жыл бұрын
@Yveltal still loses to vegeta
@MysteryBounty
@MysteryBounty Жыл бұрын
You heavily misunderstanding Gear 5, he can't just imagine he is stronger lol
@czyprodigy
@czyprodigy Жыл бұрын
Roshi blew up the moon with no effort on OG Dragon Ball, Luffy is surviving that blast?
@mrme.484
@mrme.484 Жыл бұрын
Roshi needed a lot of effort to blow up the moon. Characters easily blowing up the moon is early DBZ/Late DB. Roshi used a max power Kamehameha ha, bulking up and firing a strong kame hame ha to burst the moon. Piccolo after raditz fight 1 shot moon with random ki beam.
@Munchycrunch456
@Munchycrunch456 Жыл бұрын
@@mrme.484goku in el manga legendario can blow up the moon with his kamehameha. Also anyone above max power Roshi should be able to blow up the moon meaning anyone above demon king piccolo can blow up the moon.
@kamixakadio2441
@kamixakadio2441 Жыл бұрын
Considering factors such as: 1. The One Piece planet is relative to the size of Jupiter, upwards of a small star. Any Planetary feat/statement scales upwards from Large Planetary on a lowball to Star level at a highball. 2. A dying sick Whitebeard during Marineford had the power to destroy the One Piece planet, as stated by one of the other strongest people in the verse, who wouldn't have anything to gain from hyping him up, to demoralize his own soldiers in the middle of a War. He stated simply the danger their Enemy actually posed. 3. A Prime Kaido in Wano is a *Lot* stronger, more powerful and more durable than Marineford Whitebeard, which would by default scale Kaido to, at a lowball, Large Planetary/Dward Star level. 4. Gear 5 Luffy, while he needed help, still did most of the work needed to beat Kaido, his own stamina being the only problematic factor. As long as he was In Gear 5, his power was superior to Kaido, not to mention his Hacks abilities, which would then also scale Luffy to Large Planetary/Dwarf Star levels of *Attack Potency* (Not Destructive Capacity). 5. There is an important difference to note between these two different forms of strength, AP and DC. One refers to the force, the other refers to the scale. If a character has the durability that can take attacks strong enough to blow up a medium sized planet, an attack that would hurt him, would have to scale past Medium planet level in Attack Potency, not Destructive capacity. The area of effect means little, if the actual force of the attack isn't strong enough. You can have the Attack potency needed to destroy a Star, but if you lack the scale/destructive capacity, you wont be able to destroy that, but you would still be able to match a Star level being, since the target is Human sized, you can actually focus the potency of your attack on the target. Luffy as he is in the manga right now, can be wanked up to star level, but is realistically dwarf star at best, which would be a not enough to beat Frieza indeed, or any future arc Vegeta, but definitely Saiyan Saga Vegeta, and even Mid-Namek Goku. I definitely agree with most of the things you said. At this point in the manga, he already scales decently well past Naruto as well, which is consistent with how far he'd get in Dragonball. People are way too fixated on destructive capacity feats over Attack Potency feats, which is where the Naruto > One Piece imagination came from. Naruto verse certainly has a lot more large scale destruction in comparison, but that doesn't make their attacks more powerful on a human sized target, it means their attacks can rough up more regular rubble on the ground, on a larger scale, which just is not impressive. Even Whitebeards Quake Quake Fruit has more impressive Destructive Capacity feats, considering the best Naruto has, is an Ootsutsuki Clan Member splitting a Hollow Moon, which makes the feats lower than Moon level for attack potency, and only Moon level on destructive capacity in the diameter, and not the entire globe. For anybody that would be dumb enough to scale Luffy to the infamous "Continental" rumor, which only exists Outside of the fanbase, coming from people that doesn't watch or read One Piece, only needs to look at Don Chinjao clips or read manga panels with him, being able to split the ice continent in half with a single attack with No difficulty, meaning he scales well past continental, and continental destruction is effortless for him, and He is complete fodder, nor worthy of any mention to any middle-high tier in Wano.
@MasterTemplar781
@MasterTemplar781 Жыл бұрын
Him: I am not gonna be biased. *later* Him: I am gonna give Luffy the benefit of the doubt here. *even more later* Him: Due to Luffy's insane luck i am gonna give Luffy the benefit of the doubt here. *meanwhile* me: ah yes benefit of doubt even tho moments earlier before that line you say luffy would absolutly get destroyed. me: only to follow up with i'm gonna give him the benefit of doubt and say luffy wins yeah that is totally not biased dude.
@5koby4
@5koby4 Жыл бұрын
I mean he ignored a ton of stuff to push luffy as far as he could realistically he gets beat before Z even starts but that wouldn't be a good video all the OP fans would be pissed.
@MasterTemplar781
@MasterTemplar781 Жыл бұрын
@@5koby4 Yet all i see in the comments is luffy wouldnt make it past king piccolo i dont think the OP fans would get mad since everybody in the comments is already saying he wont get past king piccolo so
@5koby4
@5koby4 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterTemplar781 Yeah but they won't blame the content creator tho they'll just say DBZtards and keep ignoring the fact that luffy is just weak compared to DB characters.
@marinomele4575
@marinomele4575 Жыл бұрын
Dude you're just SO wholesome somehow that I feel bad saying the vid is factually incorrect. But I enjoyed it and kudos for the effort. Full debunk with arguments: 0:42 "Power level makes little-to-no-sense even within the DB verse" is wrong they were reliable gauges until they were used last in Goku VS Frieza. The whole joke is actually from DBZA where Abridged-Vegeta is sick of dealing with Z Fighters' habit to hide their full PL. But PLs are NEVER ONCE been unreliable. 4:00 Correct. Blue could stab Luffy but we saw how that went with Crocodile. Also, Luffy's will may be stronger than Blue's hypnotism, since it's the narrative point behind Conqueror's Haki. 5:00 Actually, Piccolo Jr is the big end-boss of OG Dragonball. You skipped him. Demon King Piccolo is IMMENSELY more powerful than Master Roshi, going by PLs actually 60% stronger. We know Roshi blew up the Moon at full power, and Piccolo can surely do the same thing but easily. We've also seen him pulverizing a city by waving one hand. Nothing Luffy ever did/tanked remotely compares to this amount of raw power. If Luffy gets hit, it's likely over for him... But Luffy is way faster, with FTL reaction speed wich in Dragonball we see only during the Frieza Saga!!! So Luffy is almost untouchable for King Piccolo, but a big-enough explosion might overcome Luffy's reflexes and hit him - as he'd need to actually "run" at Lightspeed to avoid it... And remember, one good hit and Luffy is done. TBH I don't know if Luffy has enough power even to penetrate King Piccolo's Ki-Armor... Maybe he's just unable to harm him. Period. So... Uh... Likely a stomp and Luffy stops here. 6:17 Wait... so you're using PLs? See? It's impossible to talk about DB without mentioning them XD Specifically he's around three times stronger than Piccolo Jr - who we SEE blowing up the moon with little effort. With a casual blast. Raditz tanks those moon-destrying blasts as if they were nothing... Luffy has no way to draw blood from Raditz. it's a stomp lol 7:36 To add more context.. THIS Yamcha is almost AS strong as Raditz was! (1480 and 1500 PL respectively) And the whole Z fighters were powerless against Nappa. I mean, Forget Nappa... Luffy can't really do nothing even against Yamcha here. 8:47 Destroy countries in days... as great apes? Massive downplay. Even the Turtle Hermit can do better than that in one Kamehameha. He literally destroyed the moon once. Vegeta was about to destroy the Earth without transforming, in one blow, and Goku had to take the beam risking it all with the KaiohKen to prevent it to hit the ground. I'll see the rest of the vide but I'll stop the debunk here. I think you never read the DB manga... Or at least you're omitting such basic plotpoints (that are feats) that it feels like that.
@Nightout88
@Nightout88 Жыл бұрын
mid to late namek are you mad? you missed like half the namek cast and most of them are stronger the vegeta when he went to earth, lets be real her if luffy does beat nappa [which is unlikely], he 100% caps at vegeta. as he sure as hell isn't beating zarbon and dedoria who are stronger then vegeta or the ginyu force who are so strong when they first appeared even recoome stomped vegeta. lets be honest the ball stopped at vegeta AT HIS BEST.
@theprinterdude9687
@theprinterdude9687 Жыл бұрын
Omg that reminds me of that phrase: "Nappa is worth like 15 Raditz" XD
@isamekailmahmud9302
@isamekailmahmud9302 Жыл бұрын
I personally don't think luffy could beat vegeta or nappa. If that litrle filler arc with hum was canon vegeta can literally destroy planets with 2 of his fingers.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you check my pinned comment I realised I was too lenient on Luffy. After starting research on the Naruto vs DB video I plan on making i realised I wouldnt put Luffy past Raditz. Nappa was already stretching it.
@raymondstarling6173
@raymondstarling6173 Жыл бұрын
Bro said luffy makes it to the namek saga because he's continent level. ROSHI Destroyed the MOON in the original series
@enderborn6860
@enderborn6860 Жыл бұрын
now im imagining Luffy trainning under Roshi and Kami and just how absurd his fighting would get actually fulling combos between his gum gum attacks ofcourse lets say he cant use ki but haki is still a factor so with that said if imagine the beatdowns he´d deliver would be brutal to early Z and maybe early one piece if this was the case note i said if IF Luffy trainned with Kami and Roshi wich in OP is pretty much impossible given both shows are very far apart universal wise and Toryama and Oda probably dont want to do to many collabs if any
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 Жыл бұрын
If Roshi could blow up the moon, and Goku was at a pl of 900 in his fight with Raditz after surpassing that level of power from Roshi over and over again, then Raditz with a minimum pl of 1200 easily beats Luffy. And Vegeta? Man's a walking Death Star, straight up.
@strawhatglasses1786
@strawhatglasses1786 Жыл бұрын
The only moves i would say luffy took head on was a borabra breath from kadio with took out a mountain. This was impressive for op. And it was also impressive for piccolo to see gohan blast a mountain at age 5. In short kid gohan beats kadio
@metalmario1231
@metalmario1231 Жыл бұрын
not sure thats how that works but sure
@loganjblack
@loganjblack Жыл бұрын
Nope. The power of One Piece characters isn't really measured in how many mountains they can destroy. It is mostly done through scaling. I'm gonna start her by Law in Punk Hazard when he cut several mountains apart with a single slice, now that actually isn't the impressive part of his attack as he cut someone who had continental durability but whatever. Luffy in base is roughly comparable to Law in power, assuming that Luffy never grew stronger between Punk Hazard and Wano then he entered Wano as a mountain buster, immediately he goes Gear 4 and gets obliterated by Kaido, he then trains and his base becomes as strong as Gear 4 was, his new Gear 4 then loses again and his base becomes that strong AGAIN. Gear 4 isn't clear how strong it is compared to base but Gear 2 is stated as a 10x multiplier iirc and Gear 2 to Gear 4 is like Base to Gear 2 so that would put luffy at a 100x multiplier in Gear 4. So basically with basic scaling that starts by lowballing Luffy rn is a mountain buster 100,000 times over, which makes him Multi-Continental. And that starts massively lowballing luffy, by the point of entering Wano luffy was already Planet level through scaling based on a different starting point.
@5koby4
@5koby4 Жыл бұрын
@@loganjblack LOL he's not planet level
@loganjblack
@loganjblack Жыл бұрын
@@5koby4 cool that you think that
@5koby4
@5koby4 Жыл бұрын
@@loganjblack I don't think that it's simply a fact it's cool that you think he is tho.
@vernitico
@vernitico Жыл бұрын
Sayian saga vegeta was already a casual planet buster, even if you highball luffy to the max, there is no way he gets past that. Nappa you could argue but that's as far as he gets.
@kassemm823
@kassemm823 Жыл бұрын
Bruh luffy stops at raditz
@J.Bankrupt
@J.Bankrupt Жыл бұрын
Amazing vid my niffau!!
@siphezulu5119
@siphezulu5119 Жыл бұрын
No way Luffy is getting past the end of og Dragon ball, the only thing in Luffy's favour is speed and abilities but if he needs to go past gear 2, he would burn his stamina a lot quicker and lose eventually, no need for early Z characters honestly.
@silvertongue.242_99
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
Luffy stamina issues isn't that big of a deal especially not gear 2nd
@siphezulu5119
@siphezulu5119 Жыл бұрын
@@silvertongue.242_99 he is not not bypassing moon level durability with his level of dura neg, he will need his gear 5th or 4th at the very least, if he ever hope to damage these guys which takes to much out of him
@tastedivinefury2198
@tastedivinefury2198 Жыл бұрын
@@siphezulu5119 depends on how big u think their planet is
@siphezulu5119
@siphezulu5119 Жыл бұрын
@@tastedivinefury2198 why does that matter though?
@youtonene6466
@youtonene6466 Жыл бұрын
@@siphezulu5119 bigger size = better feats
@CrimsonGoku
@CrimsonGoku Жыл бұрын
Most people are right on the money with King Piccolo winning first. I do however think Luffy gets some losses as early as Monster Carrot, because of his intelligence. Would probably lose to Arale even, but that's not saying much because she's broken...
@isaiahnavarro8268
@isaiahnavarro8268 10 ай бұрын
He would definitely lose to arale, she can kick so much ass
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Жыл бұрын
I'm sensing a pattern in various anime comparison videos, they often scale pretty well even against Raditz they have decent chances. But the vast majority of the time, a series hits Nappa and Vegeta and... it's over. Vegeta is (to borrow a term from video games) a "noob-gate" he's like a weirdly scaled boss fight with a crazy high difficulty spike.
@JapaneseMam9923
@JapaneseMam9923 Жыл бұрын
He doesn’t make it pass Raditz. He never make it to Nappa and even if someway he did Vegeta would just kill him.
@speedbeyondlogic
@speedbeyondlogic Жыл бұрын
Piccolo blew up the moon during the saiyan saga before the arrival of vegeta and nappa. Raditz tanked the same moon busting attack. Raditz is fodder to nappa who's fodder to vegeta. Nappa with 2 fingers can cause an explosion visible from space. Master roshi in db blew up a moon. Luffy can maybe beat raditz but he hard stops at nappa.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
Yeah I actually agree, I am doing a video similar to this but with Naruto next and Whilst researching that I found that I was way too lenient on Luffy hahaha. If you check my pinned comment you can see I reached the same conclusion you did
@speedbeyondlogic
@speedbeyondlogic Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime still a good put together video. With naruto he wouldn't get past saiyan saga. Current naruto is nerfed. And the best destructive feat was the moon slicing feat and the moon was hollow. Kaguya never got her attack off so no idea on how destructive that would've been or if it would've destroyed her dimension at all and no telling if naruto would've survived it.
@Prince_Luci
@Prince_Luci Жыл бұрын
Before i watch, maybe Luffy lucks his way to the Saiyan Saga, but Vegeta is crushing him without the Oozaru form.
@PTLCtheVoiceoverGuy
@PTLCtheVoiceoverGuy Жыл бұрын
Bro genuinely great content, love it, this deserves more attention
@ZudeXbox360
@ZudeXbox360 Жыл бұрын
Frieza vs Luffy be like: *H Y D R O G E N B O M B* vs _coughing baby_
@RaphaelRavenwing
@RaphaelRavenwing Жыл бұрын
Not bad for just Luffy by himself
@RaphaelRavenwing
@RaphaelRavenwing Жыл бұрын
@@DragonBallGOAT I'm sure an ant from dragon ball classic could solo the one piece verse too. Sober up and maybe don't stick your preferred animes d**k in random comments. No one asked for it and it's kinda uncalled for.
@RaphaelRavenwing
@RaphaelRavenwing Жыл бұрын
@@DragonBallGOAT he can deflect energy attacks now by rubberizing the ground so presumably if a db character tried it. Also, stil not interested in a fandom dick measuring contest so don't expect any more replies.
@TophDaGreat
@TophDaGreat Жыл бұрын
What I like about this vid is instead of comparing a character from another anime to DB protags, you compare them to the antagonists instead. Nice concept and far more interesting to break down. That said, Luffy isn't getting past Roshi tbh. Great vid though. Its all in good fun.
@Supermateo97
@Supermateo97 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting vid!!! As a fan of both series (literally almost equal love) I did my own analysis and personally I ended up with Luffy JUST above Nappa (which depending on who you ask is way too generous or way too low) I can't see him touching (Kaioken) Saiyan-arc Goku or Vegeta - at unless they didn't use big (planet-busting) ki blast. With their regular speed and strength _maybe_ but that's a stretch. I am of the belief that _Raditz-faster-than-light_ thing is a translation exaggeration everyone took too seriously and DB characters don't reach light speed (which is very, very, very fast) until final form Frieza vs SSJ Goku. But that's just my two cents.
@ijudgeanime
@ijudgeanime Жыл бұрын
yeah If you check my pinned comment I redid my research and reached the exact conclusion you did!
@isaiahjohnson6809
@isaiahjohnson6809 Жыл бұрын
Mf goku was literally turning invisible in normal dragonball with pure speed 💀
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. That’s my belief too. Also Nappa doesn’t have the creativity to adapt to Luffy’s gear forms. And people bring up the moon destruction thing ignoring how character’s never use that level of power in a fight and how their durability and physical strength even isn’t the same as the power of their blast. Freeza attempted to escape Namek, if he could easily survive planet destroying blast that shouldn’t even be considered. Yeah he somehow survived but we don’t know how .
@90abonnessansvideosdu42
@90abonnessansvideosdu42 Жыл бұрын
bullshit
@tiagovaz3667
@tiagovaz3667 Жыл бұрын
@@ijudgeanime Bro have u seen the man of tai chi? that last move.. that kill keanu reeves.. that is ki.. ki energy is invisible.. as expressed by toriyama.. now do this video again .. and dont forget of Mafuba. and how stupid luffy is.. he would just see peoples move their harms and be hit to death by ki blasts that he cant see
@MISTABUSTABASE
@MISTABUSTABASE Жыл бұрын
I’m a one piece lover but he’s absolutely dead even before we get to nappa and vegeta 💀
@LostEnding_
@LostEnding_ Жыл бұрын
Down playing dragon ball so hard rn😭 luffy wouldn’t even touch raditz
@greschenglin-dz7wj
@greschenglin-dz7wj Жыл бұрын
DBFZ folks who see Raditz doing the palms down blast: EYO IS THAT A REFERENCE TO DRAGONBALL Z???
@nervaaugustus7089
@nervaaugustus7089 Жыл бұрын
You neglected something with Vegeta and Nappa. The Saibamen - Nappa carries six of them, and each one is just slightly weaker than Raditz. Luffy would be hard-pressed if not curbed against just Nappa and Vegeta alone, but if he had to deal with an eight-on-one fight, he's screwed. Especially if one or more of those Saibamen gets a grip on him and decide to go boom.
@extrathicc7183
@extrathicc7183 Жыл бұрын
to make this video a long story short, Luffy has plot armor.
@ThePrymal
@ThePrymal Жыл бұрын
Come on bro Luffy isn’t getting past Mercenary Tao. Tao is stronger than Roshi who blew up the moon.💀💀💀
@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70
@-ayoshattah-ilya14ans70 Жыл бұрын
Haha, cool video bro, good editing and all, but Luffy catching with Raditz?... With Nappa AND Vegeta?! WITH GINYU?!! Nah bro you trippin'. As much as I like Luffy, he's not even beating Demon Piccolo.
@michaeldavis3696
@michaeldavis3696 Жыл бұрын
I think you were just trolling the dbz fandom after king piccolo. I was even willing to let it slide with Raditz, but… vegeta though? Naw, bro was blowing up planets with 2 fingers. Luffy can’t even swim. 😂
@theweeb3878
@theweeb3878 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie… luffy stops at the saiyan saga, vegeta could destroy the planet in his base after being heavily damaged so he doesn’t even need the great ape form
@sojournertaylor6897
@sojournertaylor6897 7 ай бұрын
Blowing up plots of land is a very interesting way to undersell Raditz and his moon-busting power
@thebigreddub
@thebigreddub Жыл бұрын
I Judge Anime: "I am a Dragon Ball fan myself." Also, I Judge Anime: "When transformed into great apes, Vegeta and Nappa can raise entire countries to the ground in a matter of days." Base Vegeta when fighting Goku: "Feel free to dodge this attack kakarot, but if you do it will destroy your entire planet."
@richardlegrand4697
@richardlegrand4697 Жыл бұрын
Wow I thought Laffy was the one made of rubber. This guy nearly broke his back bending over backwards for the pirate.
@VTulad
@VTulad Жыл бұрын
Dunno how many people in this comment section are going to low ball luffy, But Luffy is definitely not getting past many dbz characters BUT He is low star level, the OP world has been stated to be a low star, and diseased old WB can destroy the planet, Luffy now with g5 is easily past old WB, not only this his barjing gun was large to normal planet level, OP character have INSANE DURABILITY and endurance, not just that base luffy at the start of TS is able to dodge light and move ftl EASILY, by wano he gets 200x powerup, as seen when he gets stronger as base in wano than in WCI g4 snakeman, Luffy is lowballed large planet, insane dura, reality bending hax, 200x ftl STOP LOWBALLING LUFFY
@bryanu1737
@bryanu1737 Жыл бұрын
Like you said, this fight is over once Saiyan Saga Vegeta stepped in lol
@TheRealMRCZ
@TheRealMRCZ Жыл бұрын
Cant see how Luffy will get past the King Piccolo saga with Continental AP
@arthurambrosio5278
@arthurambrosio5278 Жыл бұрын
Tell me exactly how someone city level (Luffy) can actually beat planet level people
@lordodium3872
@lordodium3872 Жыл бұрын
Gear 5th luffy is crazy but the dragon ball scaling is just insane like no one in one piece is destroying planets and moons in seconds like in the Saiyan Saga
@Toads23
@Toads23 Жыл бұрын
What I'm here for is: Chopper Vs Goku Goku -Strong boi -Is brave so chopper may idolise him Chopper -Cool hat Goku may think it is cool and not attack chopper -Chopper is a doctor so he carries needles which would scare Goku It would be a close fight
@discipleaj
@discipleaj Жыл бұрын
You can tell that vast majority of people have never even watched the original Dragon Ball. The feats alone in the first Dragon Ball series would stomp loads of character's across anime, marvel & dc. Tienshinhan, Yamacha, Mercenary Tao, Master Roshi, Mr Popo, Goku, Krillin, Piccolo, Kami, and even Yarjirobi were all doing crazy feats throughout DB. They're jumping tens of thousands of feet high and performing complex moves whilst doing so, they're able to tank falling from those heights also. They're redirecting natural phenomenon, swimming across the entire planet, running at speed's above the sound barrier etc. By the time DBZ rolls around, even at the very start, they face a warrior (Raditz) who is solar system level in power. Piccolo and Goku could blow up islands and large cities with ease in DB alone. Master Roshi took out the moon, Mercenary Tao slices down a huge stone pillar from the Red Ribbon Army's HQ, which sould weigh close to 100mt, throws it at hypersonic speed in the direction he wishes to travel, then jumps after it, lands on it, stands on it chilling out whilst its screaming through the air at hypersonic speed, and uses it as a method of travel for his target that is thousands of miles away and lands by his target with pin point accuracy lol. These are insane feats that get slept on all the time. Luffy, Naruto and all that lot, have no chance against any of the Z fighter's.
@Bi0pandemic
@Bi0pandemic Жыл бұрын
Bro really said marvel and dc 💀
@discipleaj
@discipleaj Жыл бұрын
@@Bi0pandemic Yes, it's generalising to help make the point.
@Nature-556
@Nature-556 Жыл бұрын
Jit getting clowned on by tao pai pai
@Luke0Maker
@Luke0Maker 9 ай бұрын
4:52 You forgot the guys has knifes
@acnologiadz9212
@acnologiadz9212 Жыл бұрын
Are u high or something 😂, Luffy ain't passing vegeta or nappa
@unironicallyironic6626
@unironicallyironic6626 Жыл бұрын
5:41 yeah no bro im gonna have to stop you right here. king piccolo was more powerful than the master roshi who destroyed the moon and you're telling me that luffy can beat that? i dont think so. also your only argument for why luffy wins is just: "uuuhh piccolo would eventually get tired of beating luffy and then luffy one shots bro" what? yeah, i guess that would happen. you know, if piccolo doesn't vaporize him first like he totally could.
@omereltayeb7711
@omereltayeb7711 2 күн бұрын
When you realize even chi chi will beat the living hell out of luffy💀
@gogetassj4305
@gogetassj4305 Жыл бұрын
Let's be honest here, if Raditz had a hard time with luffy, it WOULDN'T be a easy fight for him, and nappa just destroys city's by breathing.
@mrduckling1995
@mrduckling1995 Жыл бұрын
Roshi with a power level of 180 destroyed the moon. Raditz is 10x that power level, and you say luffy beats him? nonsense lol
@bleeblah8184
@bleeblah8184 Жыл бұрын
Low Balling the shit outta Dragon Ball Z. Raditz alone stomps One Piece
@connorkelley2844
@connorkelley2844 Жыл бұрын
People underestimate luffy's strength, I mean, he doges lightspeed attacks pre time skip, and gets several times faster since then.
@unknown-kp3zz
@unknown-kp3zz Жыл бұрын
This video is meat riding luffy so hard he would struggle to beat raditz but could one shot vegeta is crazy plus luffy even swapping bodies with ginyu is insane no matter how much luck he has him standing up to vegeta by a lucky oneshot and thats his only chance but he can magically scale to ginyu enough to possibly injure him enough to swap bodies. I wish you the best on your other videos, but please at least try scale properly without bias luffy is a cool ass character but he can't math up with anyone stronger than king piccolo
@unknownfornoreason7789
@unknownfornoreason7789 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to keep this nice and short luffy doesn’t even hold a candle to anyone stronger than raditz
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