How Filoni FIXED Ahsoka in 4 Episodes | Star Wars Explained

Ahsoka Tano is a fan favorite. With her appearance in the Mandalorian Season 2 Episode 5 (Chapter 13 The Jedi), hype is at an all time high. But Ahsoka was not always so beloved. Once she was criticized as "annoying", "disrespectful", and for being a "teeny bopper". So what changed? I want to talk about how Dave Filloni intentionally crafted Ahsoka's flaws to transform her from a hated newbie into a staple of the franchise.
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[@DarkLOREDash]

Watching this video, I was shocked to see myself pop up with Freddie Prinze JR. More shocked at my interview face looking like he is crushing my soul. Great vid! 😅👌

[@sithlordvader3435]

long time no see dash i hope you're doing well and hope you have a great new year

[@evolxlovewwiii6055]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT “WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT YOUR INTERVIEW WITH KANAN”😍😍

[@reynaldomcwhiskey6689]

Loved those old Dash Star videos...

[@ltb1345]

Hello there Dash.

[@guyverxx]

He has the effect on everyone, its cool.

[@buttonsfan]

Start of the series: Fans: Ugg Ashoka is so annoying! Filoni: Yes, good, let the hate flow through you.

[@laddtorsk]

This made me chuckle 😂

[@sarahl1963]

S1 Tolerated ahsoka S2 liked ahsoka S3 liked ahsoka S4 loved ahsoka S5 LOVED ahsoka S6 error 404 image not found S7 FAVORITE CHARACTER TO EVER APPEAR IN STAR WARS Rebels cries of happiness every appearance

[@Gundam_JAY]

@@sarahl1963 yeah pretty much.

[@qujie8212]

@@sarahl1963 + mandalorian doing an insanely good job at bringing Ahsoka to "real" tv

[@snapdragon9300]

Then why do i still hate Rey?

[@Strongpoint_S]

I never hated her. I actually liked to see a kid that acts like a kid who was given too much authority and responsibility for her age. Usually, teenagers in fiction are way to mature

[@juicebox9465]

I agree. I hate it when young characters witness messed up stuff and it has zero affect on them. This is why I love moments like Ashoka racked with guilt after her actions led to the deaths of a squadron of men. Or when Miles Morales runs home, hugs his parents, and hides after being traumatized by what he just saw, like a real kid would.

[@sideways_chip_eater6420]

@@juicebox9465 (this is sort of a bad example now that i think about it) but like the kids in movies like jurrasic park their seeing people getting eaten by dinosaurs yet they dont change their not scarred for like or more careful their just "Oh that guys dead well lets avoid that dinosaur"

[@juicebox9465]

@@sideways_chip_eater6420 "Oh No! Anyway,"

[@roguechlnchllla6564]

What I hated about her weren't her actions, but the results of her actions. No disciplining, and she was usually right for no reason.

[@GodittoC]

69 likes, make a wish!

[@kadygrant5681]

Ashoka being “annoying and disrespectful” was exactly what Anakin needed

[@trustworthydan]

Just like obi wan needed qui gon. Pairing a Padawan with someone with countering personalities is kind of part of the whole thing.

[@fra93ilgrande]

The real reason he turned to the DARK SIDE 👹

[@roryfontenot5674]

⁠​⁠@@herscheldoby7323not only did you correct someone on their writing, they already spelled it right 😂

[@kkubek5748]

​@@herscheldoby7323You're funny

[@kkubek5748]

​@@roryfontenot5674You're using the laughing emoji but you're not funny

[@nuanil]

I always saw Ahsoka as the embodiment of the curse, "May your children be just like you when you were a child."

[@tomardrax9802]

Exactly. She was a jedi with powers, but she was legitimately still a child. Then kids grow up, and sometimes they can turn out to be dope people.

[@SingingSealRiana]

Yeah, only that she ends Up working AS a great foil to Ani cause while she started with similar flaws, she overcomes them! WE See her mature in a way Anakin never did! She ends Up being what Ani could have become If He Had Like an ounce of selfreflection capability

[@nathanrodriquez3209]

Ahsoka: Is hated by fans Filoni: *Task failed successfully*

[@dumukiengi9394]

Damn, ppl didn't get it lmao

[@Yes-kf2mm]

**Task Succeeded Successfully**

[@bradygraff3248]

More like Task successfully Failed

[@justsomeannoyingredpanda]

_"just like the simulations"_

[@mrsn3sbit888]

pretty stupid scheme tbh, partially why season 1 blows

[@lucasdevlin609]

I love how Star Wars fans went from “she’s the only reason I don’t watch the clone wars” to “she’s the only reason I started watching the clone wars”

[@roberttovar7255]

I completely agree

[@cyfertea8707]

More like "she's the only reason I didn't watch the clone wars" to "she's the only reason I watched the rebels."

[@MasterGamer-qo3rx]

@@cyfertea8707 true!

[@kmart625]

@@cyfertea8707 thank you I was going to say the same thing

[@DarthVader-gq4ks]

Ironic

[@rubensanchezramirez7028]

If Filoni made Ahsoka annoying on purpose so she could grow as a character, then he didn’t “fix” her. It’s called writing a character arc.

[@TheMotivatedOne5]

W, but he did say that in the vid

[@asull06]

It's called clickbait

[@DestruoTheWithered]

Loved how Rey appeared when he said “Creating a flawless character is lazy and boring”

[@GavinTheWild]

That killed me lol

[@smurphftw2008]

Just like Luke Skywalker. A character with no flaws, at least until Rian Johnson unMary-Sue-ified him.

[@LennyReid]

@@smurphftw2008 The dude who got his arm chopped off in his first lightsaber fight? The dude who's dad had to save him from Sidious? The dude who got caught by a Yeti? The dude that kissed his own sister is a Mary-Sue with no flaws?

[@MrWord283]

@@smurphftw2008 There´s no way 40 years later there still people thinking Luke is a Mary sue 💀

[@adamsteinhardt6393]

@@LennyReidno he’s ThE mOsT pOwERFuL JeDi wHo EveR LiVeD

[@imnotcreative2214]

Ashoka - "So if you're a captain, and I'm a Jedi, then technically I outrank you, right?" Captain Rex - "In my book, experience outranks everything."

[@alphasierrazulu]

Her response of "guess I better get some" was the thing that made me think she had potential. There's only one way to learn.

[@j.h-j5j]

But ashoka was not a jedi, but a padawan. So maybe she's in the same level as a captain?

[@venezuelaanimations3732]

@@provisionalhypothesis That was because of order 66, not that they werent loyal, they were just programmed like those droids It's ironic because the Droids act more human than the clones When they get sliced you can here "aaah" clones just go "umph"

[@STAR7827]

That’s the joke LOL

[@themindfulmoron3790]

@@provisionalhypothesis Loyalty, as the show establishes, had nothing to do with why the clones betrayed the Jedi.

[@AaronKaiMCDNLD]

Season 1: "eww what an awful character, please leave star wars." Season 7: "No, Wait come back don't leave us."

[@shortendermanboi5619]

69th like 😩

[@wiselychosenname2867]

"Please come back to any show made from now"

[@gamerdragon9363]

i was about to say no cus she is better then any jedi she is a badass so is sabine and ezra well not really but half badass

[@LukaDoncicFitnessOfficiaI]

@@gamerdragon9363 what

[@Puppeteer_in_the_Void]

I don't think I had a problem with Asoka in the first place but it was still painful watching her leave the Jedi Temple.

[@nordicdreki2068]

Lightsaber Lost... definitely one of my favorite episodes because of how fun it was. Seeing the wise, slow turtle Sinube showing Ahsoka that there's more to learn and understand if you simply slow down and take the time to digest it. He's definitely the perfect character to teach the headstrong Ahsoka, and she does learn

[@kileysevens9116]

I cried when I saw Sanube in the Obi show... broke my heart. He was my fave. I wish we got to see more of him.

[@andrewshaughnessy5828]

Agreed. He was like a grandfatherly hadrosaur - plus he had the lightsaber equivalent of a sword cane!

[@sicthemutt]

LOL

[@kileysevens9116]

@@andrewshaughnessy5828 that saber-cane was amazing! I wish we could have seen him in action more.

[@EliSkylander]

"He controlled why fans disliked her." now that is a powerful lesson.

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

Very true

[@mr.pavone9719]

Very Sith of him.

[@Byssbod]

4D fuckin chess

[@joshuarmost]

That’s real proper character development

[@theblasteffect4499]

@@joshuarmost indeed it is

[@philtkaswahl2124]

"If a turtle gained sapience and became a Jedi." Master Oogway, is that you?

[@codydillon2144]

Nah bro...its 1 of the tmnt

[@davidhong1934]

Using a lightsaber is considered a handicap for Master Oogway

[@drd2951]

Was his lightsaber white ?

[@mrandersen6872]

501st like

[@philtkaswahl2124]

@@mrandersen6872 And now you must march upon the Jedi Temple.

[@BlankPicketSign]

I might be in the minority here, but I always adored Ahsoka! She was adorable, funny, head strong, and a fun mix of "too smart for her own good" and "incredibly foolish". And as the series went on, and she gained more depth, she only got better 🧡

[@paulielamothe4134]

Yeah I'm with you. I wouldn't go far as saying I adored her, but I liked her because I recognized she was supposed to be that annoying teenage girl. Not like Jar Jar Binks who was supposed to be comic relief but was the worst character in all of star wars

[@alhira5098]

She's 50% the reason why i didn't miss a single episode after watching the first episode. The other 50% were the battledroids. LMAO 😂

[@hardbrocklife]

Because you are single

[@OctagonalSquare]

I didn’t watch Clone Wars until last year. And all my friends who had talked about how great it was and most had mentioned that Ahsoka was such a great character. And for the first few episodes I was genuinely questioning their sanity. She was annoying, cocky, but in the way a kid is cocky, not a professional is. But you’re right, I think it was these episodes that made me really like her character and it just goes to show how great of a writer Filoni is

[@iwearLingerie]

The only thing I didn't like was how she was dressed 💀 I know it's not real but it played on my mind that young girl was dressed like that But I absolutely love her and she's my favourite star wars character off all time

[@aggiejohnson2735]

i watched clone wars for the first time when i was around her age, and so honestly i never saw her as annoying and unlikable, i saw her like me. i think that’s the genius, is that the people who grew up watching it got to grow up with her.

[@gabriellagrey4163]

I love this comment ! I saw Ashoka the same way and we got to grow up with her, so true.

[@cursedseeker1273]

Yep

[@Ishaankaushal1]

Same! I watched it as a teen but I never found Ashoka annoying. Her personality matched her age and role in the story.

[@lukastace3154]

Same!! But seriously, it's spelled Ahsoka

[@nebonumberone]

I only first watched clone wars in 2020, and often heard from people how amazing Ahsoka is. So I did notice she is obviously very young and her behavior is like that, but it never bothered me too much.

[@TheDaveCave_]

Ahsoka was exactly how Anakin was with Obi-wan. That’s exactly the point.

[@itzspicey7173]

Facts. I loved that

[@gagesherman8826]

Yeah, that fact was explicitly outlined in more than one conversation between Anakin and Obi-wan. It's crazy how many people missed that.

[@buddbrown6858]

@@gagesherman8826 She's clearly like that because Anakin taught her to be like this, then Anakin covers for her because he's the same way. Honestly I really liked this aspect, gave both her and Anakin somethings to learn

[@Valiguss]

Budd Brown I think part of this is actually what made Yoda giving anakin a Padawan a bad idea They are so similar and once Ahsoka developed a bit and stopped rebelling against anakin they just began to feed of each other and ultimately it became just another thing anakin couldn’t let go of putting the final nail in the coffin.

[@davida5617]

maybe a bit less arrogant on his younger days, but she is exactly what Anakin would be if he were introduced into the order at a younger age. I think that is part of what we were meant to see in them both. There was a lesson for us all, Anakin, Ashoka and even us.

[@XZQA13579]

4:00 Thats cost the around 8000 clone troopers alone. That is kinda crazy to think about.

[@seth7343]

As someone who wasn’t around during this time, I find it hard to believe she was disliked. She is one of my favorite characters

[@rweezy3604]

SW Fans in 2008: “She’s a menace to the entire franchise!” SW Fans in 2020: “She was a hero. I just couldn’t see it.”

[@jennifersolis4585]

E

[@lessalazar9068]

Nah dude we've been loving her for years

[@AhsokaTanoTheWhite]

@@lessalazar9068 a lot of people didn't though, I remember Ashley Eckstein talking about all the hate mail and death threats she got in 2008/2009 saying that she "had single handedly destroyed Star Wars", "woman don't deserve lightsabers", "girls don't watch star wars anyway so she's appealing to a demographic that doesn't exist" Yadda Yadda.

[@daytonaofcv6856]

@@AhsokaTanoTheWhite I didn't realize that so terrible. Her moment with Vader in Rebels when she finally realizes its Anakin. When she says "Anakin..."man that hits in the feels hard. All the pain and shock described in one word. She's turned into one of my favorite characters. I honestly thought she was ok from the beginning she was human. People just don't like new things.

[@carsonmack4306]

Spiderman 2?

[@dr.little7311]

As Ashley Eckstein said, if she starts off perfect she has nowhere to go. Snips is my all time favorite Star Wars character.

[@luisemoralesfalcon4716]

Cough _____ cough....

[@totaltomination3617]

@@luisemoralesfalcon4716 *violently coughs towards a certain trilogy*

[@mikaylastephan7338]

I also loved Asoka from the start too

[@thewriteinpresident]

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[@engineergaming1537]

@@thewriteinpresident Who tf is mason lmao

[@x3rohour345]

Nearly every reason that you stated as why Asoka was hated... Nicknames, assuming she was right, being right, stepping up to established characters,... That's why I love her! Along the way she developed patience, calm, deeper wisdom, etc... as part of her journey.

[@sdog1234]

He didn't fix her he wrote her that way, it's a thing called character growth.

[@maxlondon9521]

"Making a flawless character is lazy" *shows Rey* 😂

[@ShadowGaming26548]

I read that as he said it

[@daniberberi7165]

@@ShadowGaming26548 same what are the odds

[@ShadowGaming26548]

@@daniberberi7165 yeah

[@NoreoeroN]

@@ShadowGaming26548 happens to me too many times

[@ShadowGaming26548]

@@NoreoeroN me too

[@Moundshroud.]

Wasn't the point of forcing Ashoka into Anakin to show him what it was like to deal with him?

[@jacobm7827]

Sh*t, my mum might get me a padawan for Christmas

[@martinhalik9924]

Yes.

[@marcelsirer]

@A Frustrated Gamer Wouldn't you say that fans should really pay attention to one of the most important core principles of the jedi? "Patience" -SHE'S ANNOYING I HATE HER Sometime later. -Wow she was great, who knew? And worst of it, instead of thinking "Oh it was a nice development" they think "thankfully they fixed it"

[@GacMan47]

Even Jedi have a sense of humor. It seemed to work for the most part. When she left though, I think I can see Anakin being frustrated again and mad at the Jedi for throwing her under the bus.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

It didn't "work".

[@barence321]

Since I am the parent of a teenager, I recognized Ahsoka's journey to adulthood. Teens often think they know better than the adults around them. They are impatient, disrespectful and headstrong. This is quite normal! The brains of young humans (don't know about Tagruta) do not fully develop until their early twenties. One of the things this late development brings is a sense of conscience, or responsibility for one's actions. This is where adulthood begins, when we realize we are responsible and our actions have consequences.

[@rileyflack8010]

Ideally, anyway. Far too many "adults" are children who never truly grew up.

[@jasminritter8318]

It's pretty interesting how Dave managed to fix Ahsoka's character in 4 episodes while also completely ruining Obi-Wan's character in the span of just 1 episode

[@riesenfliegefly7139]

The Clone Wars: starts The people who watched it: I hate Asohka ! Dave Filoni: *Everything is proceeding exactly as I have foreseen*

[@ingydegmar2060]

I mean, she was coarse and rough and irritating. And could be found anywhere in the series.

[@B_bang22]

Dave: In case you haven't noticed you've fallen right into my trap

[@EthanMKim]

Obi-Wan, who already suffered from Anakin: This is getting out of hand, now there are two of them!

[@JamesMiller-jb9bg]

@@EthanMKim lol

[@steveking1037]

*The Clone Wars movie worst rated film in Star Wars franchise history* “This is almost working TOO well...”

[@Dreso87]

Fans: *hate Ahsoka* Filoni: Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen

[@t-800o]

he he all according to my design

[@smartcrab93]

I think Ahsoka in Revenge of the Sith/Siege of Mandalor was her best shown. Especially during order 66. Unlike the other Jedi, Ahsoka knew something was a miss and the clones weren’t acting like themselves. She sees 5’s investigation and Rex’s report. She was one of the Jedi that didn’t want to kill anyone because she knew what was going on. All the other Jedi just killed clones because they turned against them

[@mariodangelo9768]

I mean to be fair Ahsoka also had a different relationship with the Clones than most other Jedi the Clones literally voluntarily repainted all their helmets in a show of solidarity with her where is the other Jedi probably had a former professional Commander to commanded type relationship

[@kkubek5748]

Most of the other Jedi didn't really have a chance at trying anything else...

[@sluttsanonymous]

i loved her from the beginning. yes she was annoying but i kinda saw that as a parallel to anakin. her development was brilliantly handled and her character deserves all the love she gets. especially for her arc at the end of season 5 and in season 7 when we get order 66 from her perspective. when obi wan says she’s not being fair and she says that she’s not trying to be UGH i love that moment soooo much. it’s a mature ahsoka who has found herself. i loved it and i love her. seeing her in other shows like rebels, the mandolorian, and book of boba fett just feel so special. dave filoni is a genius for how he handled ahsoka

[@spartanalex9006]

It's almost like Dave Filoni actually understands the concept of character development and an arc unlike most of the industry now a days.

[@randomaccount5736]

*Cough* *Cough* Rey.

[@KillerOrca]

There’s a reason every thing he works on turns out gold

[@bitchilovemangos9137]

He simply cares. Thats the secret ingredient to this crabby patty.

[@MrSoulinet]

The guy just happens to know about storytelling. As you said, not many people in the industry know that anymore.

[@FirstLast-kr3ep]

@@bitchilovemangos9137 true

[@sukorileakbatt294]

They wrote a character arc. Genius.

[@GuissepieVids]

Haha true, but I also like the insight that Filoni gave the fans something clear to hate about her so that he could fix it. Many fans wouldn’t like any new character that was put alongside the main cast for an extended period so Filoni make sure he could direct that dislike INTO a character arc that was well written and fulfilling

[@piebrosgaming8077]

Lol

[@2ndround415]

💯 like that’s the point

[@orguksilverbeard7658]

When I first saw ahsoka when I was 7-8 she was immediately one of my favorites and she still is 11-12 years later.

[@samueljardine3402]

You joke but that's more work than Disney put into the sequels.

[@Legoman775]

I always saw Ahsoka as the teenage girl turned padawan, she was annoying at first but overtime she became one of the best characters in the clone wars alongside ofc the clones.

[@drfredostein4410]

I liked the enthusiastic, head strong, innocent Ahsoka from the early episodes even if she is a bit annoying. She’s only 14 and thrust into a position of power and responsibility. Her being all of the things I mentioned above makes sense and establishes a baseline for her character to develop from

[@MagmaRen]

I think a lot of people forget that when you are young you are arrogant and naive and reckless. Ahsoka came into the series as a young padawan child, and children think they are invincible until proven wrong. That is what’s so great about Ahsoka. She was this way because children are annoying, but as she grew older and began to learn more and more, she became mature and selfless and everything not only a Jedi should be but an adult should be. It’s basic character development but we forget about that at times and just want the now now now, which is why we were impatient with her character at the time of her reveal. Luckily we’ve grown with her and matured with her and we welcome Ahsoka Tano among the ranks of one of the greatest characters not just in Star Wars but in television/film.

[@markrunner2975]

Well said!

[@fortyebestlover9123]

i think you forget your only about 13

[@mason_gilmour12gilmour81]

@@fortyebestlover9123 do you know this or are you just making an assumption

[@alh06]

@@fortyebestlover9123 I think you forget you’re also too young to judge people.

[@Finckle]

Yeah it’s like people thought she was mature but in the the beginning of the series she was like 12 to 14 and then she was 15 to 18 and at the end of the series she is now 19 I’m pretty sure

[@ocarinaplaya]

Sounds like Filoni gave her the Sokka treatment.

[@skywriter4308]

Flameo, good sir, flame-E-O

[@henrymercer628]

Some Zuko too I think

[@Flufferz626]

He was a big writer in Avatar the Last Airbender, directed 9 episodes, and did storyboard and character design, so makes sense.

[@deafspace1679]

facts

[@manafro2714]

Hi. What is Sokka treatment referring to? Some product of pop culture? Thanks.

[@hobbitlover3580]

It's so shocking for me to hear that people found Ahsoka to be annoying. I remember going to see the movie in theaters and loving her! Maybe it's because I was just a kid at the time, but she was my second favorite character in the movie (behind Anakin, who I didn't yet know was Vader, my parents didn't show me the prequels and I was like 6 so I didn't remember that that was established in the originals) and then second favorite in the show (I realized that Obi Wan exists and is the best star wars character).

[@PURE_DAnK_MEMES]

What the hell is a teeny bopper I have never heard that phrase in my life

[@UltimaJC]

"Annoying" "Disrespectful" and "Teeny bopper" yeah it's almost like she was a kid lol

[@jackasonsmith4215]

Shadowjc32 yeah almost like you forgot she was trained as a Jedi for years and this kind of behavior goes directly against that 😂😂

[@bluegent7]

A spoiled kid.

[@1angrykoala]

Yep. But If I wanted to follow an annoying, disrespectful teeny bopper.... I would follow my kids on social media.

[@alexjd1278]

@@jackasonsmith4215 you forget anakin and many other ppl Just bc you're trained to be a jedi as a child doesn't mean you can't be bratty or rude

[@jackasonsmith4215]

Alex_ jcd 0127 Anakin is special- he was brought in at an old age and went through so much shit- Ashoka was just another padawan

[@abbycarnes2858]

*passive-aggressively calls Rey out as a flat character*

[@zombry2178]

Timestamp?

[@zombry2178]

Nevermind found it

[@themandalorian2616]

@@zombry2178 Time stamp?

[@zombry2178]

@@themandalorian2616 2:36 - 2:37

[@John_Raiyder]

I mean it is true

[@unicaller1]

The interesting part is he found a way to add a little sister. We get to see her mature and learn some hard life lessons, making her more relatable. It also further high lights Anikin's short comings as a Jedi. Truly a much better character then Rey.

[@hammer1349]

I think the character of Ashoka comes full circle in her conversation with rex in Rebels. Rex: "In my book, experience outranks everything" Ashoka: "Then I definitely outrank you" It's not said in a snarky or even matter of fact blunt way, it's delivered just right and rex sees she is so much more than the padawan he once said it too. He can't refute what she's said and I think that is the culmination of everything we've seen her go through. Of course that is not the end of her journey and story but I think that completes the clone wars era Ashoka

[@maddlarkin]

Of all the Jedi who survive Order 66 Ashoka is the only one who tried to avoid killing the clones attacking her and when that failed she was the only one who took the time to bury them. That cemented her as one of my favourites

[@JiannaSandoval]

Stop. Now I'm crying again 😭

[@user-sg4ti3er6k]

This incidentally shows her affection for them. And this can lead to the Dark Side. But I don't think Filoni has enough balls for that

[@maddlarkin]

@@user-sg4ti3er6k honestly I think Filoni was more aiming toward the idea in the EU that both sides were extremes and a balance needed to be found which is why Skywalkers EU jedi had relationships, married etc I think this was also the idea in Mandolorian but they backtracked there probably because Grogu toys sold to well

[@user-sg4ti3er6k]

@@maddlarkin In the expanded universe, they are even more uncompromising about the dark side. Naturally, Luke could not give up his attachments, and could not forbid others to have them, but with the dark side he was as categorical as any normal Jedi Here's an example of his quote: *“For a Jedi, there is no place for a rainbow Force,” Luke said quietly. “There’s no room for compromise. We walk the path of the light side, or we fall to the darkness. There’s no gray area, Ben.”* Moreover, his allowing of attachments led to the fact that almost half of his Order fell to the dark side. Kip Durron because of his attachment to his parents who were killed by the Imperials in general staged a genocide with the help of a SunCrasher Which would be unthinkable for the old Jedi Order.

[@maddlarkin]

@@user-sg4ti3er6k Your pulling some specific examples equally for Kyle Katarn it would be his attachments which led him away from the Darkside and to the path of being a Jedi Knight, rejecting attachments sent him full sith lord (admittedly one of the best ending sequences to a game of all time but still). As I understood it the EU Jedi were more about balance, attachments could strengthen your connection to the light side and ground your humanity, 'alienanity' whatever. The problem with the OG Jedi is their mindset was extreme so they were pretty Amoral on occasion, that comic strip where Qui-gon saves some random alien even though the species is super treatrous, feeds him, carrys him around then slaughters him and all him mates when he does betray him without batting an eye because 'as the force wills' As for the Jedi being above genocide, well I can think of a few examples, the fate of the original Sith species (beaten, erased from galatic records herded unarmed onto a drone ship and fired off in a random direction, thats ethnic cleansing at best, attempted genocide by proxy at worst), Anakins observation the Jedi will kill the senate in Revenge of the Sith, makes sense, they'd all been corrupted and manipulated by a darkside user, tainted they've got to go for the good of the Republic or are least most of them and there are a good few thousand senators. The problem with both OG Sith and Jedi is they were extreme mindsets, jedi rejection of emotion/attachment meant they could rationalise a lot and left them unable to process when they did have emotions and as a result they often ended up with massive over reactions to them, the Sith are self indulgent to the point of self-destruction the balance was realising that both are wrong as extreme mindsets lead to extreme actions and finding a balance where emtionion and attachments are not rejected as a blanket rule but accepted as part of being a living sentient, I think Filioni was leaning hard into this idea in the Father, Son, Daughter clone wars episode, none of them could see a solution as they were all locked to their extreme mindset and as a result they whole thing fell apart.

[@JangoSkett]

Ngl I personally never had a problem with Ashoka, I can agree that her character got better- but I never disliked her. She’s always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters. The apprentice of the Chosen one

[@usaku9851]

The vibes of a true jedi

[@logangreer001]

For me it was more of Anakin seeing, to an extent, what a pain in the butt he was. So he learned through Ahsoka that the galaxy never revolved around him.

[@sirsoulless]

@SharkTank Anakin is the Chosen One which means Ahsoka is the apperentice of the Chosen One.

[@sirsoulless]

@SharkTank my bad...

[@sirsoulless]

@SharkTank 😳

[@TheMonkeKing]

Dave Filoni was an absolute GENIUS when it came to this. The clone wars will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@dawidnowak9025]

I appreciate the low key lofi Ahsoka theme in the background : 3

[@falcon55551]

I loved Ahsoka from the start. She reflected her master perfectly. Anakin was too often led by his ego and emotion. Often disobeying orders. She was a beautiful reflection of Anakin. The end of Clone Wars teared me appart. Ahsoka got to a point of a fully mature jedi.

[@thomasallen9974]

Only to leave it entirely due to dogma and broken trust. But, ironically she ended in the same vein as Qui-Gon Jinn somewhat, following the force instead of traditions.

[@JustAnotherAccount8]

I also think shes the main reason Anakins character is soooo much stronger in the clone wars than the prequels.

[@kamojet]

I agree. Ahsoka is why i'm a fan of "The Clone Wars". She's easily my favorite character. I was surprised to hear that audiences didn't like her. Makes no sense to me. How do you expect a kid to act? If people really didn't like her for the reasons stated, it makes me wonder if they haven't had any interactions with people younger than themselves in their own lives. Whether you're a parent or a boss or a mentor... kids don't know what they don't know. And you often get one of two versions: 1) the "know it all" learn on their own type, or 2) the copy cat type. Ahsoka was definitely the second type, a virtual "mini me" of Anakin in my opinion who followed the example or her master not always the lessons or orders. And it was awesome to see Rosario Dawson play the mature Ahsoka, what a great choice!

[@randombrokeperson]

She was a lot kinder, far more compassionate, and emotionally intelligent than Anakin, even in her “annoying little girl” phase. I’m still watch TCW and am nowhere near close to the end, but that’s really been sticking out to me. Anakin is quite rude and unfeeling with anyone who isn’t Padme. In a way, this makes his turn to the dark side more “understandable” - he was also childish and narrow minded when it came to others. Excited to see how this show ends!! 2/22/2022 ☀️ 217

[@Evil_Peter]

Ahsoka was terrible to me because she was an annoying brat that had a lot of negative emotions and that disrespects her master. Imagine what kind of person you would have to be to still be like that after all that Jedi training. 9 year old Anakin was respectful and calm but was still shunned for his emotions and was only trained because he had the strongest talent anyone had ever seen and they thought he could fulfill a prophecy. It seems pretty illogical that Ahsoka wouldn't have been seen as a failure since bad behavior is worse than not being powerful for a Jedi.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

"Flawless characters are lazy and uninteresting" Shows Rey Yep, this checks out.

[@yaboylion9244]

I mean Luke is also a flawless character by that logic as well

[@mariodegenzgz]

@@yaboylion9244 No he's not lol Luke is deeply flawed, it's what always gets him in trouble.

[@williamjameslehy1341]

@@yaboylion9244 not even remotely. Much like his father's apprentice Ahsoka, Luke constantly failed at things and needed other people to save him, and when he *did* do something impressive on maybe two or three occasions he had help. He was a whiny teenager at the start of IV, then he looked on helplessly as Vader killed his mentor. He got stuck in the snow on Hoth in V and would've died had Han not saved him, he constantly disappointed Yoda, he rushed off to Bespin against his advice, and he got absolutely crushed in his duel with Vader. On multiple occasions in VI he got cocky and almost died because of it, and when he *did* succeed in the end it wasn't by skill with a lightsaber or Force power, but because he saw the good in his father and was saved by him at the last moment. In stark contrast, Rey was constantly besting vastly more experienced duellists in combat, she was as powerful as a veteran Jedi master with literally no training, and she had a seemingly unlimited range of skills and knowledge that made no sense for a borderline feral child from the middle of nowhere. There was no tension in the story because you never got the sense that failure was a possibility for her.

[@blindeagleace3629]

@@mariodegenzgz I mean, so is Rey. I don't understand how people can watch the sequels and say Rey was perfect. I don't know if we watched the same movies but Rey had her flaws.

[@blindeagleace3629]

@@williamjameslehy1341 So this is just false. Rey didn't do anything by herself either. She beat Kylo after Finn injured Kylo and after Kylo killed his father. And then still Rey was losing to Kylo for most of that fight. Rey did not beat Snoke by herself either. In fact, I can't name one fight or situation in which Rey completed something alone. She also always had help. If you have a situation where Rey was the perfect duelist then I would love for you to point that out.

[@5trabri]

Anybody here in 2024??? I grew up watching Clone Wars and Rebels. After watching the live-action Ahsoka series, I realized that she’s my favourite Star Wars character of all time, but I couldn’t completely explain why. This video helped me make sense of that, thanks!

[@Zagoreni02A]

I never hated Ahsoka, she was annoying in first episodes but watching how she grows trough the seasons was amazing. Dave Filoni created masterpiece of Clone Wars. Today Ahsoka is one of most well known characters, and if Filoni and gang even think of kiling her, i think that would create a riot.

[@guziman1963]

It sounds like she went through this thing called a character arc.

[@50jakecs]

You can write a character that isn't annoying and still have a character arc. The annoying stupid things she did in the beginning weren't necessary.

[@charlescourtwright2229]

@@50jakecs ahh but heres the thing, these are lessons you could only learn from age or experience, things she didnt have at the start, she was an energetic child, and almost everyone knows that children with energy are hard to control

[@davidm4566]

A character arc is the perfect plot armor. If you mess up early on (no writer is perfect) just use good writing to have the character go through a journey & bam you now have s good character.

[@baxxa]

@@nodruj8681 turned out good anyway, so what's the problem.

[@haydencrawford8552]

@@50jakecs you forget that's she's literally like 14 years old. Of course she's going to be stupid and annoying. Like all 14 year Olds lol

[@Vessenkestrel]

I didn’t think of Ahsoka as annoying so much as I thought that her character was completely expected result of the republic putting child soldiers in a leadership role during a war. Similar to systems being upset about the consequences of Republic interference. If the Jedi and republic weren’t shown making mistakes, there would be no reason to believe that people would embrace a totalitarian empire over this

[@auri4061]

Extremely underrated point

[@GoldenSunAlex]

This. I think people forget that the Empire was largely accepted. In a galaxy with trillions of people, the rebellion only had a few thousand people. Most people just got on with life.

[@zixiv3144]

@@GoldenSunAlex the rebbels had millions or billions of troops i think it was like 1/5 of the empires manpower (or smthing like that)

[@GoldenSunAlex]

@@zixiv3144 Uh...What? No they didn't. Every single depiction shows them with barely anyone. What they had at hoth? That was the ENTIRE rebellion at the time.

[@zixiv3144]

@@GoldenSunAlex i didn't know what time period of them u meant lol i assumed the height

[@DragonShinobi]

3 years later and this video is a really good look back, as someone who was growing up with starwars ahsoka is like the main character of Treasure planet and other " coming of age " movies/media. it's something everyone can relate to being the hard headed stubborn child when you can't see the whole picture.

[@ThatAirForceCowboy]

Dave: "Good good, give into your anger" For real though I think Dave probably guessed that no matter what fans were going to start off hating Ahsoka and just decided to embrace it right at the Beginning then grow the character from there. Thank you Dave!

[@shugaroony]

Yep, a very good point. Introducing a new major character into a series who will be compared with more established - and loved - characters, was never going to be perfect, and the fanbase would shout out at the least little faults of them to make them appear worse than they are (and really Ahsoka and Ezra aren't all that bad in the first seasons of their series). To write them with those faults to begin with, was a big gamble, but Dave obviously had a plan with her to iron them out and make her character grow, and hence us in the fanbase begin to like, then love that character. Its just great character development.

[@4thdimension760]

YUP. Dave knows how shitty SW "Fans" can be and anticpated that.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

When Ahsoka was first introduced we assumed she was the Jar-jar (added for little kids) of the series. Then Jar-jar shows up.

[@joeswanson6782]

If you like feces fajitas, because "they're SUPPOSED to taste like shit."

[@TheRyujinLP]

@@4thdimension760 Ahhh, no. He realized that most times a little kid side kick is added to a show they turn out to be annoying and stupid so he wisely played into that fact so he could subvert it later. He played the long game and it payed dividends.

[@Yorah95]

Lets not forget. Filoni also wrote Zuko.

[@marywhite9398]

Really i didn ‘t know that

[@foxlight3]

From Avatar?! Or am I missing something critical?

[@yourmajesty8913]

@@foxlight3 yep!

[@bencebotye3904]

It's not necessarily true. He directed some of the key episodes of Book One, but isn't wrote them. However definitely the Avatar writing team show the way to him how control the audience's depiction of a character.

[@oOPPHOo]

Had to check up on this. As far as I can see, Filoni only wrote _one_ episode of ATLA: The Serpent's Pass from seaon 2. Zuko has a b-plot with Jet in this episode, and it seems like Filoni was fairly involved with Jet. He directed Jet's debut episode, after all. Actually, Filoni did a fair bit more directing than writing including some defining Zuko episodes like episode 1-2, the Blue Spirit and the final part of the season 1 finale, but it's not like he directed The Storm and, apart from writing The Serpent's Pass, Filoni didn't do ANY ATLA work post season 1. IMO, the most defining Zuko episode from season 1 _is_ The Storm and the most definining Zuko episodes in the entire series are perhaps Zuko Alone, Lake Laogai and The Beach Maybe I'm missing something but, based on official credits, Filoni did not _write_ Zuko. He merely directed him in some early episodes.

[@PlayNowWorkLater]

Even more relevant now, with the release and reception of Ashoka the live action series. BTW I’m a huge fan of Rebels. I think it is WAY underrated as a series. The character development is incredible and story is captivating. Including Ashoka’s story arc in the series.

[@zylah_4811]

When I first saw Ashoka I adored her. She was my favorite Star Wars character. She still is till this day!

[@aoteren]

Somehow this reminded me of a quote I'm not even sure was on the show, but is, nonetheless, perfect: Anakin: "What did I always teach you about disobeying orders?" Ahsoka: "How! You tought me how!"

[@avichaid6021]

There's an actual Obi Wan quote that goes like: "I see Anakin's new teaching method is 'do as I say, and not as I do'"

[@sluna6434]

@@avichaid6021 I love seeing Obi Wan, Anakin and Ashoka together because when she puts him through the same problems he put Obi Wan through Obi Wan is just smiling to himself in the background like "How the tables have turned"

[@dlolive9990]

@@avichaid6021 just watched this episode! It’s “The Citadel”

[@verenstrikeforce9300]

Nice quote, that’s from futurama when farmsworth is arguing with his younger clone-self. “What did I teach you about tempering with machines?!” “How, you taught me how”

[@JohnFreedman0]

Opens with overconfident, arrogant, and disrespectful to her seniors. Basically Anakin junior.

[@roxypicasso66]

first time watching clone wars: *ahsoka appears* ugh this girl second time watching clone wars: *ahsoka appears* THERES MY GIRL

[@StarboyXL9]

Its the "I raised that girl" feeling. The same one you get when you watch a younger sibling and realize how much they've grown up.

[@Zackypuffsnurple]

Uh-huh, yep. That.

[@daenor7807]

At first my thoughts of Ashoka: madam mischief, mistakes are common on a battle field and someone has to make them so she’s kinda the battlefield mistakes scapegoat and honestly played that well with how sorry she is and tries to do better Ashoka now: annoyingly feels like a child who is old enough to know how to be mature but not old enough to actually do it so it feels pretended, then her in rebels she had too much of an air of legendaryness for a random Jedi girl, of course she wasn’t that to the fans but she should have been that to the galaxy which is why it irked me so, she hardly felt like the same character even, was hoping she’d have that mature feeling but it feel more real without so much legendary air, I mean without knowing the clone wars the air of mystery and legend would have been awesome but after knowing her so well in clone wars then pulling her aloft for rebels felt weird cause she wasn’t a legendary hero in the clone wars, she was a on verge of growing up teen starting to learn independence in season seven, so yeah I liked her better early on but I did want to see her grow from those mistakes, but the later clone wars her was no fun and if I didn’t know anything about her she’s be awesome in rebels but already knew her from clone wars as immature, as the scene where she confronts anakin would have been more heart touching if she’s had a more close and respectful mature familial feeling relationship with him before his transformation but she was still at the I can’t handle mom and dad anymore so it’s time for me to move out and find myself stage

[@noursaccount]

right

[@agtvplayz4355]

@@daenor7807 well thanks for the paragraph 🤗

[@mattyp1857]

Honestly after you went through the four episodes, it just makes me feel like there were more episodes that helped shape her. The whole 2 or 3 episodes where she's captured for a hunt, the whole bombing moment, they also helped her change a bit, which feels nice

[@neofalconer5722]

Watching clonewars as a little girl i never disliked ahsoka, the reason i loved her so much is that she was given space to be outspoken, to be arrogant in a way most young girls in cartoons werent. I liked that she wasnt told to be more quiet, to behave more submissive as i had been told to.

[@khfan4life365]

I didn’t hate Ahsoka when I first saw her. I actually found her relationship with Anakin amusing because it reminds me of me and my older brother. In fact, my brother started calling me “Snips” because I reminded him of her. Then again, I was only 14 when the Clone Wars movie and first season came out. I grew and matured with Ahsoka, and she became a mainstay for me in Star Wars.

[@asingleshot7]

I have three younger siblings, the idea that Asoka qualifies as annoying was laughable at the time. She is young and learning and honestly I thought that her first real "failure" was more Anakin's fault than hers. If you are setting a young person up in a situation where their responsibility is likely to exceed their experience you need to plan for misjudgment. Putting a thirteen year old in charge of something where thousands could die should not be plan A without a really good backup.

[@TheAchilles26]

My little sister and I started calling each other "Snips" and "Skyguy" after watching their interactions

[@asingleshot7]

@@TheAchilles26 That is awesome

[@EyePatchGuy88]

Many of us grew up with her.

[@thatonemailbox]

Let's just hope your brother doesn't end up as a Sith Lord, like Anakin

[@suttonthebakervlogs6460]

I never really found Ahsoka’s starting personality bad at all. The fact that she start out annoying actually added to her character.

[@mastergamingdude6191]

Thanx u said it I never disliked ahsokas character Ive always liked ahsoka the fact she grew more mature made her all the more a favorite character to me

[@monochromedream-eatingbaku]

Preach. Plus she was like what, 13 (I've heard conflicting things, apparently the movie's timeline puts her at about 14/15 but the first season of Clone Wars series at 12/13. Or maybe it was the other way around? Oh well)? Kids just do be like that

[@munken7673]

I was a kid then, so i didn’t Care.

[@daenor7807]

At first my thoughts of Ashoka: madam mischief, mistakes are common on a battle field and someone has to make them so she’s kinda the battlefield mistakes scapegoat and honestly played that well with how sorry she is and tries to do better Ashoka now: annoyingly feels like a child who is old enough to know how to be mature but not old enough to actually do it so it feels pretended, then her in rebels she had too much of an air of legendaryness for a random Jedi girl, of course she wasn’t that to the fans but she should have been that to the galaxy which is why it irked me so, she hardly felt like the same character even, was hoping she’d have that mature feeling but it feel more real without so much legendary air, I mean without knowing the clone wars the air of mystery and legend would have been awesome but after knowing her so well in clone wars then pulling her aloft for rebels felt weird cause she wasn’t a legendary hero in the clone wars, she was a on verge of growing up teen starting to learn independence in season seven, so yeah I liked her better early on but I did want to see her grow from those mistakes, but the later clone wars her was no fun and if I didn’t know anything about her she’s be awesome in rebels but already knew her from clone wars as immature, as the scene where she confronts anakin would have been more heart touching if she’s had a more close and respectful mature familial feeling relationship with him before his transformation but she was still at the I can’t handle mom and dad anymore so it’s time for me to move out and find myself stage

[@briandavion]

hell my reaction to her was to sit back, and imagine Yoda giggling as he assigns her to Anakin, "know what Obi-wan felt master skywalker will hehehehehe"

[@timokapornyai3266]

I like the short comparison with Rey. I think because of her perfection shes receiving lots of hate (and that is well earned) Blame the writer not daisy

[@firephoenix7788]

4:15 Another thing I remember is that when Ashoka comes up with a new plan later in the episode, one of the clones expresses his doubt against her plan. Think about it. When in the show have clones openly doubted jedi before?

[@grantman395]

“Making a flawless character is lazy and uninteresting” Cuts to Ray

[@caitlinst.pierre182]

Savage. I love it.

[@rhinodoesstuff9477]

Rey*

[@KingAdeft]

That was pretty brutal lol. Nice one

[@Goldblasterblaze]

Man I must really not go deep with this stuff because I like Rey

[@oliverpasztor788]

@@Goldblasterblaze what do you like about that character? I am genuinly curious.

[@adriandure4627]

“Making a flawless character is lazy and annoying” *shows a clip of Rey* LMAOO IM DEAD

[@anni-qx4eb]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@PotentialAutist42069]

came here to look for this comment, lmao

[@EskimoBENNY]

@@PotentialAutist42069 same lol

[@grimprime0158]

Heck even luke was winy and annoying in 4 up until the Death Star then foolishly challenged Vader.

[@jankyredstoner]

2:34

[@Greedoprodz028]

People used to hate her so much but now they’re like oh we love Ashoka oh yesss

[@tiseril]

Love how you showed the shot of Rey on "Lazy and uninteresting" bit. Makes your argument sound much stronger

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

"... and since making a flawless character is lazy and uninteresting..." *shows Rey* Yeah baby, he knows it too

[@Chilcutte]

That whole movie was Lazy.

[@braidenj152]

that whole trilogy was lazy

[@Melo651]

The ultimate MarySue. A worthless character for a worthless film trilogy.

[@tylerleach8796]

Except you know...Rey ISN’T flawless.

[@CrasherX2000]

I mean I liked The Force Awakens, but Rey pales in comparison to how Luke was handled (despite her enormous skill being explained TWO MOVIES LATER)

[@DragonballBlack]

Glad I pushed through season 1 of Clone Wars and got to see all that character development :D

[@Caleb3XFN]

Same

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Season 1 - or TCW in order is a good show, but it really expanded after that. I funnily enough loved Ahsoka as I thought she’d grow and become a fan favourite like 3PO.

[@kaigaither6016]

I loved Asokha so much that I cried at the season 5 finale

[@superpaytonmars8852]

Nice to see a familiar face, and a fellow Saiyan in this galaxy far far away.

[@RyanTheDark]

Season 1 is really decent but it felt like she was the main focused instead of other characters like in the later seasons. I wanted to see more of Anakin Skywalker and see how the war changed him, and although the Clone Wars succeeded, Season 1 and part of Season 2 was a chored.

[@feathersong139]

I never had a problem with Ashoka, but as clone wars progressed, I went from tolerating her to absolutely loving her. She’s my favorite character in the whole franchise.

[@auxistic]

I absolutely agree! Introducing Ahsoka, a new character, could have been risky, but if done well, it could have been a game-changer for a series. It was essential to make sure that Ahsoka was compelling and the audience could connect with her, while also giving attention to the development of existing characters. Overall, introducing Ahsoka in this way was a great idea!

[@settratheimperishable7800]

Dave Filoni is single handedly keeping Star Wars alive.

[@chocolatethunder-iy9wv]

Jon feavronu too lol (I know I messed up his last name lmao)

[@TheArtisticGamer7]

@@chocolatethunder-iy9wv Favreau is literally only helping Filoni translate Animated into Live action. He's done zero heavy lifting with these stories and what truly is making this 'THE' Starwars is Filoni.

[@tabbywarrior]

@@TheArtisticGamer7 eh true. I don't like what he did with Ahsoka tho

[@AustinPrice184]

@@TheArtisticGamer7 Filoni is an amazing writer and Favreau is an amazing director. cinematography is an underrated aspect of telling a cinematic story what composition can say more than dialogue in some cases.

[@ponche5609]

@@TheArtisticGamer7 Favreau created and wrote almost all episodes of The Mandalorian lol. I mean Filoni is a genius but Favreau deserves more recognition than that.

[@paulvarda5318]

well, when your instructor is Anakin, misbehavior & less respect is a given.

[@helenmersek8554]

Personally, my favorite characters are the snippy ones. I just relate more to them than well-mannered or subtle ones (Obi-Wan & Dooku on both accounts), and they're more entertaining characters.

[@minutemansam1214]

@@helenmersek8554 I mean Obi-Wan can be pretty snarky, he's just more posh about it.

[@totallynotamimic3522]

@@helenmersek8554 Obi-wan knows how to be respectfully disrespectful

[@andpeggy6048]

What about “Twice the pride, double the fall”?

[@questworldiangreenknight7455]

True lmao

[@sonicfan2403]

You can't always expect a Teenage Character to start off great, you gotta have them start off flawed in terms of their abilities, personality and characterization. And that's one thing I love about Ahsoka, she started off being a slight annoyance, but when Filoni started to play around with those flaws and have her learn not only from the likes of Anakin, but also from Obi Wan and Plo Koon, they really started to take a direction with her. I also liked how when Anakin and the others tried to bring her back into the Order, she turned it down. Even though he will always be her dear master and her friends, she can't forget how back handed the High Ranks on the Council just painted her the complete bad guy!

[@TheLeoEdson]

i think the clever thing about the character (including in the first season_ is that it mirrors anakin's leadership and gives a lot of context as to him ending up in Palpatine's grasp

[@katicorn456jones3]

lore star: ahsoka was hated at first me: always liking her me: ._.

[@thanatosstorm]

Don't feel bad. Happens to many.

[@buttwiperindawfulevil2256]

@Ahsoka Tano wait you are actually here, do you know Luke Skywalker

[@booran.]

@Ahsoka Tano lol

[@lolozeeee]

@@buttwiperindawfulevil2256 I don't think she does I don't think they have ever met if they had then Ahsoka would have sent Grogu to the man

[@Lancia444]

same here

[@prion42]

I knew she was deliberately written to be irritating, and I think one particular interaction at the very beginning kept me from falling into the trap: Rex: "In my book, experience outranks everything." Ahsoka: "Well... I guess I'd better start getting some!" Even with all her flaws she still knew intellectually that she had to learn from others. And she did it so well that she earned the personal loyalty of her men.

[@isabelmcgaugh711]

Just a great hint that the character would grow over the show!

[@hacksmerian2879]

I am constantly amazed that people actually think that the new star wars shows are good shows with well written characters, action, and story.

[@TrashTrackers]

When I rewatched the Clone Wars movie recently, I realized that Ahsoka was meant to be annoying. I'm glad other people see that 😊

[@sheaharrison690]

"Making a flawless character is lazy" *shows Rey* Me: yes

[@malcolmlaugh2049]

lol

[@johnswillinger]

She’s not flawless, doesn’t mean her character wasn’t poorly made though.

[@patrickderksen223]

How is she less flawless than, say, Luke?

[@malcolmlaugh2049]

@@patrickderksen223 Luke has mentors, pre-established skills and motivations. We can relate to him in ways while Rey's motivations are left unclear and has no background knowledge or mentors.

[@patrickderksen223]

@@malcolmlaugh2049 Fair points about mentor, although both Obi-wan and Yoda taught to trust feelings more than knowledge. Rey, may have had an advantage if she had less established skills. “You must unlearn what you have learned” some wise Jedi said...

[@vlogily8043]

“Annoying” “Disrespetful” “Teeny-Bopper” What about Anakin?

[@trucetruce335]

He said that these were also complaints fans had about Anakin in the prequel

[@redblue4127]

Uhhh... What about him?

[@Valiguss]

Exactly the same that’s the point

[@user-pm3wk6lw6m]

@@trucetruce335 that's why I never had problem with Anakin in prequels. Well, maybe a little when I thought he has turned to the dark side too quickly in ROTS, but in time I understood this too.

[@KingMarkus222]

She’s perfect to be his padawan

[@Mynameisjake008]

Ashland character development is why I love the her and the old Star Wars so much. In the sequels every character has little to no flaws and is instantly perfect. I hope this video brings to light the problem Disney has made. Everything has too happy of an ending.

[@stuffofnitemares6161]

At this point just give Filoni the keys to the entire complex and make everything go through him. He literally saved Star Wars for an entire generation.

[@moabman6803]

Agreed. Star wars had gotten so bad, I really thought I would never watch star wars again. I imagine the only thing holding star wars from making an even greater come back than it is, is Dave's superiors at Lucas. Put him in charge of everything.

[@Gibbons3457]

Just as long as you get politically savvy and militarily savvy writers to make his ideas hold water.

[@petermilne2470]

My son and I often discuss that, while we enjoy The Clone Wars, it should not have taken 7 seasons of television to make 3 feature movies ( the prequels) work.

[@s8theninjawarrior916]

@@petermilne2470 except it didn't take 7 seasons... it took only 3... after that it just amplified everything, the prequels really aren't as bad as prequel haters think, they just are close minded and don't see the good, only the bad dialogue which isn't even the worst, its very tolerable even if somewhat cringy at times

[@atomixage]

@@s8theninjawarrior916 And that's your opinion. I disagree and think that without Clone Wars the prequels are disgraceful. You can't just say that they are good movies if you take out everything bad. Dialogue is an important aspect, and so is believability. You have dull characters with unlikable good guys and uninteresting villains fighting a war that you miss 99% of. The Clone Wars changed that. They wrapped up Episodes 2 and 3 with a nice little bow and expanded the characters immensely.

[@HaganeNoDan]

"Ahsoka plays out like a little sister who annoys you, but grows up to be your best friend. The sister who holds on to what you once taught and shared with her, even when you've lost your own way." This perfectly sums up why I love Ahsoka more than any Star Wars character.

[@mistyroyalhrt7166]

I agree.

[@keelanbarron928]

Same

[@Ishaksonn]

Agreed. Same.

[@phoebegreaves4709]

I'm dying for the music in the background

[@ClaimNoName]

Loved Ahsoka from the hop…”looks like you’re stuck with me; Sky-guy” 😂

[@MyGamer125]

Dave Filoni: *makes a character intentionally annoying* Fans: “Ugh! This character is so annoying!” Dave Filoni: *uses those traits to develop her into one of the most beloved characters in the franchise* Fans: “HE PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!”

[@marblemadness8870]

He played you. Until this day, I'm not a huge Ahsoka fan. Her white lightsabers are my favorite though.

[@chrismarple]

Idk if I would say one of the most beloved characters

[@jojocane9792]

@@chrismarple I definitely would. So many people love her.

[@jojocane9792]

@@marblemadness8870 why is that?

[@kranvis2885]

So you’re saying… Dave “Fiddle-oni”?

[@Bluntz1289]

"Talent without training is nothing" Looking at you Rey.

[@Bluntz1289]

@SpiritCraft101 We all know it was a shot at her lol

[@wowdude5515]

Holds a lightsaber once and can defeat someone who was trained by Luke Skywalker

[@Bluntz1289]

@@wowdude5515 Right? Fuckin lame.

[@kruztieepagan2270]

This deserves to be the highest rated comment on KZbin. Yes, even higher than seth evermans Billie Eillish comment.

[@RichO1701e]

The difference between JJ Abrams and a good director, Felloni

[@Trey_816]

I used to not like Ahsoka, but she grew as a character and grew on me. I loved Rex from the beginning. But he also grew as a character. Huzzah for character development!

[@rebellatis5346]

Honestly I kinda like the approach they started off with because if you think about it it really shows how she evolved over the series and I think that the initial way that she was portrayed was kind of a good starting point for her instead of coming in the way that she evolves throughout the series. Honestly it makes sense because as a person grows they go through many personality changes and with Ahsoka that was done perfectly. Young teenagers often are very cocky, disrespectful, annoying, and a variety of other stuff. I think it’s actually kind of genius the way that she was written in the beginning especially when they decided to take the path with her character that we ended up with because it made her growth much more believable. Also the clone wars was really a kind of introduction to the Star Wars series for many people and in a way we got to grow up alongside Ahsoka in a way. As we in the real world evolved and had our personalities change with age this character was doing the same thing alongside us which is incredibly brilliant. I feel like that’s also one of the reasons why she became were the most popular characters because of the fact that she was so relatable to so many fans

[@assassinsknight]

She never pissed me off like Rey did. She’s like Thor before he became worthy.

[@scruffmaster0185]

Perfect description

[@sorrowandsufferin924]

I'd say she's like Thor before he rejects the throne of Asgard.

[@darknerd8332]

Rey's story is just lazy. Born to parents from Palpatine's bloodline, instantly powerful. Hell anakin was the same case. plagueis inadvertently created Anakin through midichlorian manipulation and he still went through training and through that did he gain his level of power.

[@TheYTSucks]

That’s because Rey absolutely sucks.

[@dactyalvision5491]

A "Jabba style" ashoka getting drunk with r2 yelling about cod is all I picture

[@avichaid6021]

It also works because she's a great foil to Anakin. Whenever he gets annoyed with her behavior he's reminded that most of it is actually his influence Also, Asoka is only the second best thing in TCW simply by the virtue of Obi Wan existing

[@chancepaladin]

until Maul returns, and Ventris's redemption.

[@vedantgosavi3282]

Because of Obi Wan?

[@Mi_Anakin_Skywaker]

Anakin ,Obi-Wan and Ahsoka imo are the best things in TCW

[@GeorgeMonet]

Obi Wan was a git in Clone Wars. Maul returning was the most stupid part of Clone Wars outside of the total bullshit witch magic. The Counsel refusing to believe there was a problem with the Clones because Palpatine told them there was no problem is a close third. The Dark Saber bs is possibly tied for second.

[@Jaykurosakii]

Hondo was my dog up until he almost sold Ahsoka into s*x slavery. I was not with that

[@Carol.R.F.]

Wow what a great video!! Thanks for that Indeed I didn't like Ahsoka at the beginning, now she's my favorite of all and hope to see her in many other productions yet

[@jaylenthehedgehog]

.... Damn it's like this is how they make character development? Like why would you hate a character for being annoying when that's what it was meant to be like that? Also Anakin wasn't really cocky just brutal

[@drewt1717]

This approach to Ahsoka worked on 2 levels: the older audience was given a controlled dislike for her that was grown into appreciation through her character develeopment, and the younger audience related to her as a peer and basically matured along with her. The story itself wasn't really a fresh idea tho: it was basically the same concepts Lucas used with Luke Skywalker to great success.

[@evandugas7888]

Well I mean it's just good writing rules 101. But it's praised since they did it well

[@zixiv3144]

Luke was so diffrent to ahsoka mate ????

[@tommyvasquez2708]

@@zixiv3144 the essentials are still there tho. luke was a whiny brat in episode 4 and because of his failures and the revelation that his arch nemesis is actually his father in empire led him to become stage 1 of peak luke skywalker by episode 6

[@zixiv3144]

@@tommyvasquez2708 he wasnt a whiney brat he was just clueless

[@laserbeamlightning]

@@tommyvasquez2708 even if you find him whiny, the scene where he stares into the twin sons tells you everything about what he wants in life and that resonated with everyone