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How Football is at war with itself.
How Football is at war with itself.
How Football is at war with itself.

[@Anakin_Skywalker1999]

As a wise man once said: "Games gone"

[@Justinian-IV]

Only the Sith deal in absolutes.

[@Vizeh]

As a wise man once said “it’s a f**king disgrace”

[@lkrnpk]

pack it in son, mug's game

[@1237barca]

@@Vizeh it’s an absurd NON problem. Like saying baseball is ruined cuz pitchers can’t pitch every game. The clubs have huge budgets and can afford huge squads. Rotate! Stop complaining and play the players only as much as is healthy.

[@tyreesenelson5968]

​@@Vizeh as one wise man said "if I speak I'm in big trouble"

[@samiralhajeed1239]

Football is the same as any other job in the sense that if you are being overworked, the quality of how well you can do your job begins to decline and your health is impacted negatively

[@Vizeh]

They are human after all like

[@BrunoSilva1995]

Then they should make less money if they want to play lesser games

[@guedrini2045]

⁠@@BrunoSilva1995 they aren’t paid on a per game basis. If a player gets injured and plays 3 games all season they are still paid the full wages. They are paid relative to how much money their club brings in. Playing every 3 days over an extended period of time is physically overbearing no matter how much money you make or how fit you are. Most people complaining couldn’t play 1 full match a week at that intensity. I get it seems like the players are acting spoiled but at what point will it be realized that the body can’t physically handle that much extraneous activity week in week out?

[@BrunoSilva1995]

@@guedrini2045 if you play less games your club makes less money, so the players should make less aswell

[@froopnoops4505]

@@BrunoSilva1995not if your team can replace you until they ship you off🤷‍♂️

[@jdjsbeh6957]

Old football was a passion, now things like multi-club ownership, Uefa, and FIFA made it a business solely focused on money

[@Vizeh]

100%

[@jake0899]

players aren’t liking it either and neither are fans it’s just the people with no actual desire towards football pushing the narrative of where football is going

[@Drunken_Master]

99% of the players are in it for the money too.

[@matt7matt722]

​@@jake0899 The armchair/Internet fan is loving it. Which is the driving force behind this nonsense.

[@Aura_322]

Football will never be the same as it once was simple as that.

[@Vizeh]

Money has gone mad

[@generalpenultimo6502]

Well certainly not if everyone is so accepting about it...

[@Truebro79]

You got that right, it will never be what it used to be. Even if it gets in a better state than it is now, it still won't match what it used to be

[@mrtom2854]

As an Everton fan, I can think of quite a few of our players who I actively want to go on strike

[@isaiahpavia-cruz678]

A certain Young player most especially

[@yungtrashlord]

i am very keane to know who those players are

[@gbekeloluwaiyun4755]

​@@isaiahpavia-cruz678🤣🤣🤣

[@gbekeloluwaiyun4755]

​@@isaiahpavia-cruz678🤣🤣🤣

[@gbekeloluwaiyun4755]

​@@yungtrashlord🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@shepardice3775]

I truly hate when people say "they get paid a lot though". Everyone has it worse than someone else. If you are overworked at your dead end job in a rich country in Europe or North America, you still have it infinitely better than a sweatshop worker in Bangladesh, who has it better than a child slave in Congo. Guess nobody can complain unless they're literally starving, right? Their bodies can't physically handle it. Footballers are getting injured more than ever. THEY WANT TO PLAY but their bodies can't keep up and that's a 100% valid demand. Instead of going after footballers for their lifestyle, maybe the rest of us shouldn't have to sacrifice our bodies and minds just to put food on the table.

[@TheFukula]

@@shepardice3775 ah yes not being able to keep up with running twice a week for 90 minutes and getting paid millions a year for it. Classic problem

[@BarelyAwakee]

@@TheFukula it's not just twice a week though, is it?? Players train nearly every day for months on months to stay in shape/ be ready for those 2 games a week. I assume you've never consistently worked out in your life cause if you have, you'd know rest is important. Working out almost constantly year-round for years on end will tear your body apart. There's a reason so many injuries happen nowadays.

[@ultimatedumbass4640]

​@@TheFukulaYou're clueless

[@NandoFIT-df8ly]

difference is that when these lazy footballers get injured, they still get fkin paid.. whereas in any other job.. u will get fired for being unable to do ur work. how about decrease the ridiculously high wages of these overpaid privileged footballers?

[@alexandermeiering5216]

​@@NandoFIT-df8lyand where should that left over money go to? Its not their fault fans are willing to pay so much

[@francisugboko]

Money is the only reason why the corrupt organization like UEFA and FIFA continue to create random tournaments and increase matches under the pathetic disguise that it will promote the game.

[@Vizeh]

100%

[@423vol4]

If I were a footballer at the highest level, my goal wouldn’t be to get to the PL, Serie A etc but it would be to get to the Bundesliga for this exact reason. 18 team top flight means 4 less regular season games, only 1 domestic cup instead of 2, no match replays, only 1 Supercup and the month-long break around Christmas and New Years. Should be a standard for every top league in Europe imo

[@ccliffy90]

If you play for a big German cup you forgot : European football Club World Cup If you were a international you forgot : International football Kane hasn’t moved there and now plays around 40 games a season

[@423vol4]

@@ccliffy90 that’s still far less than your average Man City or Arsenal player

[@ccliffy90]

@@423vol4 is it ? Since a lot of these players won’t play in league cup say it more around 5-8 games Nuneaton a few years back had to play 71 games in a season including pre season, 3 players played every game ………… and had a job 😂

[@terreonnhenry5778]

I think one compensation for all this is an increase to substitutions to 6 or 7 and increase allowed squad size. At this point you need almost 3 full squads. Players should only be playing around 30-40 games per season at most.

[@Vizeh]

The complaint I heard is that a club shouldn’t be in position to play a “lesser team” due to bad scheduling I don’t know if I agree with it or not but I’ve heard that response before

[@terreonnhenry5778]

@@Vizeh I can understand that perspective but at this point clubs need to think of having 3 starting players in almost every position. Basically Chelsea but better managed which probably also means a bigger coaching staff.

[@duck1x]

Chelsea were 2 steps ahead of us all this time. Todd Boehly MASTERCLASS🥶👏🏾👏🏾

[@fernandomustachioso9737]

I kind of think there should be some mechanism that makes clubs use their fringe and youth players more. So these top players actually don't play 90 mins as often or just sit out games entirely.

[@theweekndxo7438]

@@Vizeh I agree with that complaint tbh, I think rotation matters but take City for example, 75 games in a 46 week or about footballing season? You'd have to replace like almost half the team every game

[@BrasilianFury]

European players: "There's too many games now, the game is truly gone." Brazilian players: "...Look, we're used to it but you're not exactly wrong here."

[@Vizeh]

They have some insane travel to do aswell haha

[@BrasilianFury]

@@Vizeh I'm pretty sure the reason Luis Suarez is a super sub in the MLS now instead of just wrecking stuff as a starter is due to his one year playing at Grêmio and going through the Brazilian schedule last year...and that was WITH THEM keeping him on the bench for any games where the pitches were artificial turf. 😂

[@thegeekqwerty]

Making more money doesn't make you any less human.

[@generalpenultimo6502]

Exactly.

[@1258-Eckhart]

The human body has its definite limits no matter how much you get paid. Earning megabucks makes nobody into a superman.

[@BrunoSilva1995]

Then they shouldn't mind to make less money aswell

[@Oakeedokee7]

​@@BrunoSilva1995 sure, but that's not the point.

[@nuudelz3711]

@@BrunoSilva1995they aren’t paid to play for the nations league, or any international break. So they’re taking pay cuts for risk of injury compared to their team mates who have those weeks off.

[@JPMMAPicks]

The new ucl format is driving this. It is purely done to have more matches specifically more “spectacle” matches against bigger clubs. They want more and more matches involving or between the big clubs in the ucl because people tune in. Not only is this bad for the players like you said with the fitness but it also waters down the thrill of watching two giants face off in the champions league.

[@gibsonszafran8897]

The biggest red flag that people should be questioning is the immense injuries to young players. Kids, who should be durable as possible, are losing years of their career because of this.

[@giacomogalbusera]

I know it may sound as some kind of shit rethoric,but I've really fell out of love for football in the last two to three years. Every aspect of the game I loved as a kid and early teenager is gone. It's just money and business and more money and more business. I'm now almost 20 and I don't even care if my team plays,wins or loses. I fell in love with other sports in the meantime and I have no more room for football at its current stage. It's just sad. The young me who was madly in love with the game is just not there anymore. I'm trying to fall in love again,going to the stadium,trying to get my "ball knowledge" back,but I just can't do it again. Nothing in football right now appeals to me in any way

[@Vizeh]

Burnley is where I’m from so it has a cultural connection to me so I’ll never lose that, however if people don’t have that then I do get how people may feel less interested in it these days

[@giacomogalbusera]

​​@@Vizehfor me it has always been a family thing. My family from my dad's side is full of Juventus fans since the '30/'40s. It's something I've acknowledged and something that will forever be a part of me. My roots will forever be linked to Juventus,I can't change that in any way. I'm filled with nostalgia of simpler times and still love that,but right now I just can't love my team and this game as i used to do

[@dillonsiv]

I always hated the "they earn a lot" of money so deal with it argument. I remember when the Liverpool fans sang you'll never walk alone in respect for when Ronaldo lost one of his babies in a miscarriage and the response i saw from some people was "he's a millionaire he can suck it up and deal with it" which was just flat out disgusting

[@sageofsixpaths8392]

But when klopp said this everyone called him "whiney" 😐

[@chrisbarnes3660]

Even before that Fergie pulled out of the FA Cup completely to play the Club World Cup in 2000 (I think) and the media lost their shit about it, but he said there were too many games even then and they couldn’t compete in everything, even as the biggest club in the country (at the time)

[@Scotty2303]

Personally, I feel like what happened to Eriksen at the EUROs a few years ago should've been the moment eyes got opened to the potential consequences of making footballers play so many games. Injuries have also become more common over the last few years.

[@Dinoo1234]

Or what happened to Pedri. Honestly they should have realised that then

[@jamjakailhungdim8924]

Either they lessen the games or the players go on strike.

[@Vizeh]

It’s only inevitable

[@jonathand.t.5051]

Or they raise players wages a bit and then become experts in the art of load management

[@KailamiMwiinga]

Or they go play for Stoke city

[@BrunoSilva1995]

They can lessen the games played and reduce their salaries aswell

[@Gwnomdat]

Or more players in the team

[@aceofspades746]

Make the League Cup non europe playing teams only.. New winners every season, gives the rest of us a chance to win something and have a european tour ourselves in the Conference League the following season

[@jamjakailhungdim8924]

One option could be making certain competitions make a slot compulsory for the academy players with senior players limited too.

[@Vizeh]

The EFL Cup has pretty much turned into that at this rate

[@tomleggosaurus1]

"Just rotate more" Do they not understand how much pressure the top clubs have to succeed? How many people could be let go because the club failed their goals? I also connected dots that may not be related, but you often hear about how much time is spent with the ball not in play nowadays (set pieces/time wasting/etc) and kind of think it's literally to catch a breath. The style of pressing clubs need to use to stand a higher chance of winning means a tonne of emphasis on running a LOT. Put that and a busy schedule together and obviously the players fall apart. If we relax the schedule a bit, who knows, maybe the knock on effect means much more exciting games with players giving 100%.

[@jackdudley7258]

There are many reasons the fixtures are bad, asking teams to rotate is definitely not one of them though. The pressure is internal to the team and their goals. Managers are fully aware of the risk of overplaying players and they are more than happy to poach talents to warm their bench. The fixtures are too much but with a squad size of 26, if you aren’t using that to the full, you don’t have reason to complain. God forbid £50mil Matheus Nunes has to start a game for city

[@blinkusfishus2052]

Only premier league fans can change that attitude - I support a club that operates on far less money than any epl team, we qualified play in Asian continental comps this year, and this will 100% result in matches where we have to chuck out the youth team - In fact we already got knocked out of a cup we won the previous year because we mostly fielded teenagers. No, nobody was demanding our managers head because some 17 year olds lost a game.. The fans have to change with the times too imo.

[@Eman-uw7yk]

Football is an entertainment sport. The more they play the less good quality football we will watch. People compare and complain how football isnt as good as it used to be but also wont sympathise with the players who say they play to much becaue they earn a good wage. They may age a good wage but the more they play the less quality football will have as whole

[@SebastianDalhed]

I honestly want them to strike at this point. I’m so sick and tired of FIFA and UEFA expanding and expanding competition after competition. Football doesn’t need more games, it needs less.

[@Dinoo1234]

I agree. Who's idea it was to expand the Club World Cup or the Champions league? It was fine how it was before

[@briansergeant]

They won’t stop until they can find San Marino an easy way to qualify for a major tournament! Infantino, Ceferin, Agnelli and the ECA have destroyed the sport with their dollar/renminbi/riyal chasing ideas.

[@BrunoSilva1995]

And make the players make less money

[@EzeBall1710]

Ok tell them to take a pay cut then

[@SebastianDalhed]

You guys really out here simping for the corrupt powerhouses of football because players make buck. I really don’t care about player salaries, that’s a symptom of the decease that is greed in football. You really care more about players taking a salary cut than football being ruined by completely unnecessary expansions and reformatting of competitions that absolutely no one asked for but a few executives wanting to milk the cash cow dry. Player health be damned. Honestly, it’s like you think the problem isn’t systematic and just comes down to players being greedy. Absolutely 🐕💩 take.

[@theweekndxo7438]

There's 52 weeks in a year, and the summer usually gives 2 months off. So if that City stat is true, you're telling me they're making players play 75 games in 46 weeks? You know how absolutely insane that is? And I know people say "rotation" but not every single team can rotate their best 11 every single game and they shouldn't have to, it's ridiculous. More than 1 game per week average is INSANE

[@Cursedpeopleakajuice]

50-60 games should be max u know 1 game per 5-6 days

[@0000-y4l]

I really don’t think it’s that insane. It’s worth the money they get paid for and if they don’t like it, they aren’t forced to work it.

[@theweekndxo7438]

@@0000-y4l man I hate this braindead argument holy shit. It’s about the health of the players dumbass, the amount of injuries per season has skyrocketed in the past 5 years. Idc what some random on KZbin thinks lmao as if you have science and data to back your shit up

[@theweekndxo7438]

@@Cursedpeopleakajuice yeah I agree, and maybe 1 mid week game every so often with the UCL. But it’s like almost every other week there’s a mid week game

[@PG-20]

The new UCL format doesn't help.

[@Vizeh]

Two new games may not be awful but the Club World Cup is just unnecessary

[@SebastianDalhed]

@@Vizehthe new format is kinda a$$ tho. The classic format was already perfect.

[@Dinoo1234]

The old format was just perfect. Idk what the need was to change it

[@kuzz4587]

​@@SebastianDalhedGroup stage format clearly had some issues. Definitely not perfect.

[@riichobamin7612]

As a football fan, I really want more games BUT footballer's health is also important. So how about we: 1. Introduce rolling substitution in football, similar to NBA where players can be substituted in and out. This may not be 100% similar to NBA, but allowing a player, say, to come out half an hour in the 1st half and then come back on in at some point in the 2nd half will allow players to have more rest (especially players that are key to their team). We can start by allowing a player to be brought back in only once per game. 2. Increase the number of substitutions allowed.

[@RW-nr6bh]

I don't want more games. There's more than enough already. There's only so many games you can go to.

[@riichobamin7612]

@@RW-nr6bh yokay man. Valid reasons, but I just cannot get enough of my Man Utd football.

[@generalpenultimo6502]

The "You're getting paid high amounts of money so shut up and work at least 110% harder then everyone else" is such an American mentality and I hate it

[@LordBathtub]

Squad rotation solves the problem. What's the point in 30+ registered players if only 15 are regular players

[@houseofvenusMD]

Exactly. Clubs just need to field more players and rotate them. This is a non-issue imo. The game as a whole is going through a transition. Good prospects come through the youth ranks all the time

[@maximusorbis2548]

Because most of them aren’t good enough

[@LordBathtub]

@maximusorbis2548 no club can have 30 world class players... Rotation would encourage more youth players coming through as well

[@shepardice3775]

I personally hate squad rotation. I would rather have multiple good teams in Europe instead of just the richest clubs having super teams where players that could start for 10 other clubs are on the bench.

[@Julian-ec5bg]

The problem with squad rotation is that quality goes down, so end up being pointless to play those matches because people wouldn't be interested on them

[@FootyAdventures]

I think rolling/unlimited subs could be the future! Good video 👌

[@dannyhawkings8469]

Thing is if you have a “bigger squad” you see it all the time managers still play the best players cause if they’re not pep at the top they’re on chopping block and could lose their job any moment. So they have to play the best team every game so they don’t have that one bad result which gets journalists asking the owner if you’re the right man for the job. Only solution I can see is for the premier league is you remove teams make it 16 teams. I know 20 is a nice round number but playing 30 games, not having as many mid week games or having 8 weeks to rest or spread games out better would be the only quick way to solve it. Think the prem clubs may agree as it would mean more revenue for the 16 clubs remaining but then of course you’re entering super league territory.

[@KeeperCharlie]

More and more games they say, I can tell you that quality of football will decline noticeably if this continues. Even amateur level football, if you play 3 full matches in a week + once a week training, your odds of injury and player's football life span goes down drastically.

[@Tkokat]

having a dream life-style doesn't make you superhuman...

[@Kyleterp1]

Here’s a crazy idea. Managers could rotate their squads and use all 5 of their allotted substitutes. For players to start, they could not play in international matches to alleviate some of that congestion. They could sign for clubs that aren’t playing in Europe to ease in congestion. The club World Cup is the same amount of games as if they’re playing in the euros, or copa america. Is it different because they’re wearing a club crest vs a country’s crest?

[@sarcsaticsoona2994]

Failure and Darwin Nunez in the same image is crazy

[@nathanhill3]

Revolutionary idea: How about a manager manages his squad and rotates.

[@braxton9192]

what happens if that manager is on the chopping block?

[@Frogre_]

Money over passion and desire games gone

[@thequadcleff4904]

Being a Football player isn't liek your average desk job where they get paid ££££££ a week. It's literally about health, fitness and endurance where the body is under stress from the physicality of the sport's nature. If you play too much then the players get injured and damage themselves, sometime quite badly. I do think they right in that sense. With regard to wages and finances involed. The players didn't directly chose to get paid that much. It was down to TV rights, Fifa/UEFA being greedy and over time this meant more money got intot he game and, therefore, got into transfer sums, wages etc.

[@alexeisenhart7826]

Hey from America here! This is a huge problem with high level youth football over here stateside! I actually suffered because of this. I developed acute compartment syndrome due to over training and over playing over the course of 3 years. I had surgery on my leg and now have permanent nerve damage too:( The players are definitely overworked and I seriously get it, it sucks and it does make you very injury prone

[@avalisduvon6388]

Football being controlled more and more by money is sad. As a fan of the sport since late 90's, I have tried to watch every match/tournaments there are, but it's increasingly difficult as they added more. The competitions are getting less prestigious and less exciting too. Lots of fans are blaming players for getting injured all the time. Yeah, no wonder players are getting injured ALL THE TIME with these scheduling. Fans are saying, "but it's their job! They are getting paid a lot of money to kick a ball around!". Well, there should be regulation/cap about how much a player salary can be. Also FFP should be much more strict. I don't even know what FFP regulate right now even or at least it doesn't have the impact it is desired. The clubs also need to put more non profit sponsorship/ charity on the shirt, even if it's just for some games so that the earning from that game can be donated. Having a gambling sponsorship on shirt is just baffling to me. All these enormous money shouldn't be spent on football/footballers. The beautiful game of passion is dying. Well, at least I've got the chance to enjoy it for some time. RIP.

[@adnanahmed7841]

Dudeeeee! Amazing concept and way to look at it. Players are humans too!

[@sugarsaint]

You hit the nail on the head at the beginning. These extra games aren't at the behest of their employer, rather it's greedy 3rd parties like UFEA eyeing the TV kitty that the premiership enjoys

[@Taurean_SAMA]

1:09 People are right....however we have to be humane with the schedule. Two things can be right at the same time..

[@ZZZ-pu4yw]

@@Taurean_SAMA they can take less money the players the people pay less for the subscription then less games are played and everybody is happy outside of FIFA/Uefa

[@BrunoSilva1995]

​@@ZZZ-pu4yw their salaries should be reduced then, if they want to play less then they should make less money aswell, but I bet with you as soon you say something like this to the players they will take a step back

[@cruxfleet6214]

I agree with more game, the reasons is: 1. The top teams get the 'top' problems. If the top teams want to say they're the best team so the challenges that their face must be worthy of that. 2. Discouraging Ego. Some top player are too ego to let go their place in the squad in First Eleven to another teammates. Until their got injury or not fit but still not let go their place to the available teammates then their will blame the games not their own ego. 3. 'Debuff' The Top Ranked. Top team want to dominate the league so them want to always have their best squad but the increasing numbers of games made some 'debuff' effect on them by injuries, fatigue and more hence put the other mid or below teams in the league a little advantage.

[@KIKK2017]

To decrease the fixture congestion, there should've been regulations that determine gap between two competitive matches (e.g. minimum 3 days, so no more "boxing day"-type matches where a club plays again the very next day) and how many non-league competitions a club can join in one season (e.g. maximum two, so PL clubs must sacrifice League Cup/FA Cup if they play UCL). I remember when Man Utd skipped FA Cup in 1999-00 season because they played in Club World Cup. Surprised that no club today has taken similar risk so far.

[@Blandys]

Vizeh always has some poetic ass titles

[@Devster_10]

Negatively noted, I fear that a daily match schedule might overwhelm players, leading to burnout and injury rather than improving their fitness and competitiveness. But i do also think that the match schedule will improve on players' skills, making them more competitive through consistent competitions .

[@marshall8782]

Pedri alone should be enough of an argument

[@hecksuit7877]

its mutally beneficial in my opinion, quality of matches improve and injuries reduce. Win win situation but i do get the other side. Only person it negatively impacts is the higher-ups.

[@NateLeonhart]

The "you have money" argument would make sense if there was a magical drug that instantly heals fatigue. But it doesn't. The only thing that will heal fatigue is time and rest, something that is being reduced more and more each season.

[@nichobee]

I was so confused when Rodri appeared in that UCL promo skit announcing MOOREEE FOOOTBALLLL

[@shepardice3775]

I don't think football will ever do this, but maybe teams should be allowed unlimited substitutions like they are in basketball for example. You can take players off at any dead ball and bring them back into the game as well. The problem is absolutely none of the players are used to that, but that allows you to make sure nobody plays a full 90 mins because there should be very few games where you need that.

[@shatterfall_hunted8236]

The "shit got real" moment was when Pedri was overworked , not that it hadnt happened before but that was the moment it went from a joke to worrying reality of the near future . 5 -10 years ago young players playing games on a consistent basis was seen as a way to for them to mature faster and have longer careers as top players (hense why every youngster with little to no accolades or note worthy plays gets valued at over 50 mil ) , now players starting young and playing consistent also makes them an integral part of the team which makes the coach want to play them when they are available but since seasons now include so many games it almost gurrantees that they will get overworked , Football used to be the Sunday event of the city and sportsworld now its a product for money to make the rich richer and Uefa and Fifa continiously try to squeeze it dry , first it was fines and regulations then it was sponsors now it is physically pushing players past their limits (assuming they play all games at a normal level)

[@daniaaal]

I feel like people dont realise or refuse to open up to another option: shorten the games. If you want players to keep playing the current number of games without compromising on their fitness and health, then shorten the length of games. Instead of 90 minutes, play it in 80mins, 40 mins for each half. Reduce or avoid extra time in cup games as well.

[@tristankrafft4201]

The answer would be then to reduce the pay by 10% or so per player and reduce the number of competitions. It is definitely the case that players are over played but also it is a two way street where the average player pay needs to be reduced.

[@alecvanv]

It feels like the begining of the same cycle that f1 fans went through, Every year more and more races. It used to feel special to have a grand prix weekend to watch every 2-3 weeks. It was something to look forward to. Now its just part of the furniture, the greed for more and more monetary gain has drained the excitement and anticipation out of the sport. Football is going the same way. Every game needs to feel special.

[@virainbhojwani6707]

Happens whenever profit and money becomes the focus and football is now about money.

[@Babaishere__]

Excellent analysis 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@kuzz4587]

Some ideas for English football 1. Shrink the Prem to 18 teams like Germany and France 2. Abandon the League cup or make it so that only teams not playing in Europe can enter. 3. Have a mandatory winter break maybe as long as for two weeks. 4. Probably super unpopular but I would get rid of the Boxing day fixtures too so that players can spend their winter holidays with family.

[@oranges866]

option 2 is all that's really necessary

[@JonathanMajors123]

@@oranges866the problem with doing this, is because the act of tiny teams playing big teams is the amount of money the smaller teams get. Those comps split the money from the gate 50/50 between both teams and that gives the small teams a shit ton of money that keeps them alive.

[@tiwtid6055]

Option 1 is a terrible idea

[@oranges866]

@@JonathanMajors123 that's exactly what the FA cup is for and on a grander scale

[@earl.c]

I wanna believe Todd Boehly bought a million players because the resolution of this impasse will be allowing a larger squad size.

[@mechkota]

The problem is that no one could give solution to the fixture congestion without upsetting some of the interest groups. The EPL(and other big leagues) do not want to reduce the teams, UEFA do not want to reduce European games and the teams from smaller leagues also do not want reduction of the Europeans matches because this is there big revenue and exposure, UEFA and FIFA are not willing to reduce the international games(most boring part of the season) and no one wants to scrap the League cup because is going to upset the teams from the lower leagues. etc.

[@nhlanhlamadikiza6177]

I think with the growth of money and salaries in the game as well as medicine I think it makes sense to increase the amount of games so long as they dramatically decrease game time at youth level and allow clubs to have bigger squads I think so that players can be rotated sort of like Load management in the NBA

[@Vizeh]

I think squads will have to get bigger, issue is at top level for real great players it does cost so much

[@gokulramesh7542]

Considering That there is still appetite for football the solution would be for allowing larger squads for every team and encouraging more rotation to avoid the player burnout thats being feared..But considering that players aren't really going to fancy having to share their income, theyare going to look a bit hypocritical.

[@hugoschreuder5908]

Doesn’t matter what they get paid, doesn’t matter that they are playing football(many peoples dreams). Imagine having this amazing dream life and having all the talent at a young age and then due to injuries your career drops off or you suffer a career ending injury and now all that is gone!!! Your dream, your main source of income, YOUR JOB! Is gone due to playing too many games…

[@ysbrandd]

only clubs I enjoy watching are smaller clubs, it feels more passionate! for example I feel way more passion from an Toulouse FC than a Juventus, even when it comes to social media management.

[@camo9367]

It's only after watching this video did I realise that Cantona's crazy speech may have been right all along

[@jasoncampbell293]

Yes they’re paid a lot and others have to “suck”it up and get on with it but as fans, if we want to see quality games, then the quantity does matter.

[@JPMMAPicks]

I think the euros being delayed is started this all. I mean players had a euros in 2021, then had an entire season and then a summer off, and then had a World Cup during the start of the next season. Now we just had the euros again with the nations league in between so players have basically only had 2023 summer off without having an upcoming tournament for having played in one recently.

[@92agayle]

Whilst there are more games, more substitutes are allowed to be named and used than ever

[@rockaway0beach]

A lot of comments referring to how things were used to be and etc. I still see world class players with a lot of money but unable to run straight or needing medical treatments for life because of the physical consequences of 15+ years careers overclocking their bodies, drainages, accelerated recoveries, all of this is a ticking bomb where you won't be able to do your job anymore once it hits. That's when it a football calendar for top players were, at most, 55-60 matches a year, not now that it would approach 80 and for a wider range of players.

[@saturnz428]

I have a pretty strong opinion about this topic. Firstly the national competitions should resemble Germany, 1 supercup match, 18 clubs league, cup competition with 1 match per round, simple as this. Secondly, players should have a limit of games they are able to play per season let's say 40, then if they go over the limit the clubs would be punished financially by other means, Thirdly big teams that usually play in all the competitions must have bigger squads with 3 players per position. If there is so much extra money in the game let's make the squads larger and embrace rotation. For my last point I want to remember y'all that when football was played in a regional level and it expanded to national competitions people complained, then again it expanded to continental level, more people complained, now it's just following its natural course of transcending into the global level of competitions like the new fifa club world cup. It will not be a smooth transition but the people involved should take the proper measurements in order to make it work.

[@thetruth4654]

I mean earning a lot of money doesn`t save someone from becoming physically and mentally fatigued, which is likely what happens to a lot of players, especially the best ones who play for the best teams and nations, so they usally go quite far in multiple different tournaments. while the body can adapt, at a certain point it won`t because it doesn`t get the right time to recover from the physical or mental stress. Like Rodri and Foden got rest at the start of the season, due to having played too much the season before, that is a sign that the system is broken, fans wanna see the best players play at their best, but we won`t get that due to the amount of games. the amount of games also increases their risks of injuries.

[@johndaly2816]

Clubs do actually have enough players to play all the games. They're just reluctant to play their second team players or youth players.

[@hughjass5719]

Club World Cup and expanded European competitions are ridiculous but yet fa cup replays were scrapped because there was too many games

[@XVIIstarPt_]

Binning the "Nations League" would be a good start

[@andrewperez1999]

Increase squad size. There can be an 11 for specifically cup game. Also players should have some kind of union rule that restricts them from playing over 65/70 games

[@MvanPelt]

More games means squads need to be increased in order to minimize injuries. Larger squads require more funds which more games in more competitions do provide. So I'm really not seeing the issue here. Haaland cannot play in absolutely every game of the season? Sure, but what's the issue?

[@chrisbarnes3660]

Bigger squads is only a benefit for big clubs, increases the already massive gap between them and smaller clubs as they can’t afford to have 30+ squad like Chelsea. Clubs need to do better at rotating players, too often you get managers playing the same 14-15 people in a 25 man squad.

[@barberdinho1922]

Chelsea might be onto something with their large squad😂😂

[@doubleplusdanny]

I despise the “you make millions, get on with it” mentality.

[@naugiavrilio]

I always think, like... If the Hollywood actors & writers can go for all out workers strike (like what they have in 2023), then why the football players can't do the same? Like a "football workers strike" or something like that. I think that will make the voices (of the players) can be heard more to every single stakeholders in world football

[@AquaMoye]

good on the players if they go through with the strike.

[@pfft5795]

If City decided to expand their squad, they'd probably start another investigation about ffp, you can't go through 80+- games with 2 new players.

[@mikeoxlong3295]

Why would fans have any concerns about 'more injuries'? It evenly affects each team and more injuries mean more variety in lineups which sounds more exciting to me. Having to use some random youth player

[@matthewmcneany]

Worth pointing out the under current British legislation not only would a majority of those who voted for a strike have to support it but more than 50% of members of the union would have to vote in any ballot for it to be a valid mandate for industrial action.

[@daanishdan318]

I think they can create a quota where a players plays for say 3000 mins for club and further 1000 for country.

[@rizinhokasa]

Players wise I do think they get a lot of money to complain, however the real issue is definitely quality if the players r all statistically getting more injured due to time they play, than it’s a no brainer to sort that out because I hate seeing players injured, u always wanna beat someone in their best form.

[@johnh5424]

They do play too many games, but will all involved in the game, including the players take a pay cut to offset the losses from less gate revenue, and smaller tv revenue?

[@MrAwesumo]

I tore my Achilles a month ago playing pick up football and the toll injuries and constantly playing has on your body Is insane I actually had started to feel sorry for these players it’s not easy at all and I think there is too many games they Get paid a lot but they pay with their bodies I think I read that footballers are 2 to 3 times higher risk of arthritis this isn’t a joke. And is very dangerous.

[@tyreesenelson5968]

Just because they are paid thousands every week doesn't mean that they can't be overwhelmed with what they do

[@26smurph]

Whilst I do agree that players from big clubs play too many games, we all know the solution will be to reduce the amount of teams in the premier league or scrapping a cup competition, once again f'ing over the smaller clubs and benefiting the bigger clubs, helping them get richer. Would also like to know how many games a team like Bolton play, who got far in the EFL trophy and a play-off final last season. You never see the players from smaller clubs moan about the amount of games they have to play.

[@deathchicken725]

I completely agree that there are way too many games at the top level and things like the Club WC are piss takes but I feel a strike is a last gasp desperate measure when things are really terrible, like in the NHS. They’re still players on huge salaries in teams that can definitely rotate more + this only really effects teams like Man City and Real Madrid who have phenomenal squad depth.

[@marshall8782]

the players earn so much cause they earn their employers that much, simple as. it's not as if they've been gifted it. and on the argument of making squads bigger: the one time Liverpool played their second team caused a lot of uproar, even in just a cup game

[@gabrielguerrero3404]

There’s also the alternative of you know….playing their bench and that is why they’re not gonna change the number of games

[@Shizekage_james]

Teams do that already and get criticized for it. That is also going to drastically lower the quality of the games played which will affect match day revenue for the clubs. Reducing the amount of games is the only logical way. League cup gone for premier league teams imo. Cut the number of teams in the champions league and get rid of the club world cup.

[@nameanteater4772]

I hope they agree to a strike to get a deal (but agreed before my teams next game), hopefully it impacts FIFA and UEFA competitions more than domestic ones.

[@chriswest8429]

I agree there is too many games, be it extending European comps, pointless international friendlies then an international tournament every other year. Players are expected to perform and be at peak levels all year round. Regardless of wages. It all comes down to greed by the TV companies, governing bodies and teams

[@ContextFootball_]

All those people saying that they get loads of money and should not cry for playing more, then you should not cry when your team experi injury crisis.

[@generalpenultimo6502]

If they go on strike they are exercising the right of every worker, that feels he is treated unfairly by his company. I will not critizice them for doing that 🤷🏼‍♂️ That's what unions are for and it is incredibly important that we have them.

[@mikexstad1121]

Ultimately... they are paid to play a children's game. Rosters are so big managers have to rotate and work harder to make the best of larger rosters. But I have no sympathy for uppity premier league players paid by a club owned by an undemocratic oil state. Glad I fell into the Bundesliga and view football from outside the narrow scope of the premier league.

[@jake0899]

the people saying they shouldn’t care they earn this and that wouldn’t know what to do when someone in a whole lot of worse position came and saw them complaining at they’re 9-5 in a rich european country

[@TheSpliceIsRight]

I don’t understand how people can honestly say “stop complaining you make a lot of money,” when the people forcing the players to play more games are the ones that are making the most money. Players are “complaining” about their careers being shortened and their bodies being destroyed because of the greed of FIFA, UEFA, and the owners of these clubs. They want to squeeze as much profit out of the players as they can and fans are stupid enough to tell the players to stop complaining, as if they aren’t being exploited by the people who own the sport.