How GENETICS Affects Your Armwrestling Ability

[@mcfarvo]

Genotype/phenotype that may matter not mentioned: 1)training hyper- vs hypo-response 2)PED hyper- vs hypo-response 3)PED use/abuse tolerance/survival

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha of course! (Also was saving those for future video topics 😉)

[@ntgr22]

Very good video mate! Genetics is always a vague term used by the mayority of people but it's more complex than it's seem. Like you explain "genetics" is something that predispose you to a large set of things so when people often ask if they have "good genetics" i ask for what? We tend to think that a person with big hands or tall or even muscular will perform better at AW from the beginning but it's not that simple

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks ntgr, and you’re exactly right! Asking questions like you mentioned, “for what?”, is the type of mindset I hope to instill in people. Seeking for nuance in answers, I feel, is more beneficial for improving ourselves.

[@uchihaobito5071]

Whoa man this is probably the most informative video on this topic , thanks for making these kinds of videos. Make more of these videos

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks obito 🍥 I’m glad you enjoyed it and found the video informative. That’s the main goal of these videos: to educate and also encourage critical thinking in the community. Appreciate your support! 👊

[@Imnotaniggabruh]

Oleg and Artur are the perfect example of genetics advantages

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha, very extreme examples, but it helps to get the picture across!

[@justaguyfromreddit]

great video! A champion is the pinnacle of every variable being favourable, while every one of mid pack guys as a couple of those factors but not every one of them

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Exactly, that’s why it’s so rare to find the elite of the elite level guys; so many genetic factors have to be at the top level. It’s not enough just to have a big hand or strong arm. Almost everything has to be on point!

[@aldinoindra2742]

@@EastsideArmWrestling Rino, Alan, Bacho, and those young Khazakhs that look look like Denis comes to mind

[@Hfidon]

You are such a service to the community. Thank you for these quality videos and can continue to educate us noobs to the sport. Thanks bro

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Hey brother, thanks so much for your kind comment. As someone who has spent 13 years in the sport, I have made so many mistakes and had to learn so many things the hard way. It is my wish that through these videos, I can help to speed up the learning process and also to help to increase the critical thinking of the newer athletes. Thanks so much for watching and supporting man 👊

[@indianarmwresler9278]

Bro your videos are amazing.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Indian armwrestling is amazing too bhai 🙏 Thanks for your support 🔥

[@OleSevers]

Great video. I have a 7in wrist but cause I’m a great bencher my side pressure is typically too much for people right off the go and I can eventually press through them

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

You probably have concrete elbows conditioned from all your time in benching! Many armwrestlers do not have the elbows to support extremely high levels of sidepressure like you do. That’s awesome man 🔥

[@AIAudiobooks411]

best video presentations about the subject on youtube.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks always for your kind compliments AI 🫶 Hopefully this content helps to encourage more people to also explore other aspects of armwrestling that we tend to gloss over.

[@JakeDaDOG37]

Great video, explanation and visuals 💯

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks so much Jake! Glad you found the video enjoyable.

[@JakeDaDOG37]

@@EastsideArmWrestling very informative, gives a new in-depth knowledge into arm wrestling and the mechanics behind it especially with the visuals. Don't see many other arm wrestling content creators doing that. Finally something new.

[@ZaneGeeting]

Great content! I love that you're referencing Dr. Mike. He's a personal friend of mine and super knowledgeable. Keep up the good work!

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Wow, small world, I never thought that a personal friend of Dr. Mike's would be watching an arm wrestling video, let alone one of mine. I love his videos, and even though most of his content is catered towards hypertrophy, there are still useful tidbits of information that can be sieved out. Thanks for the encouraging comment, stay strong!

[@ZaneGeeting]

@@EastsideArmWrestling I'm just an old powerlifter switching over to armwrestling after too many lower body injuries. All the best!

[@aldinoindra2742]

This is a very niche topics to tackle on even in the sport industry and always grossly simplified by people but the way you provide each details actually give a nuance perspective of how genetics were not always about quote on quote "size" And yeah having small wrist and baby hand sucks :P

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thank you so much for your appreciation of the video. Yup, I did notice that a lot of people glossed over the intricacies of “genetics” and that’s what sparked me to make this video. 🥲 rip smol hand

[@aldinoindra2742]

@@EastsideArmWrestling Baby hand gang 👶

[@R_with_pancake]

Levan hand wide finger longer wrist thick forearm big bicep way stronger XD

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha, Levan is really the full package

[@IamNotSaka]

​@@EastsideArmWrestlinglevan used steroids

[@apple2.036]

goodwork mate

[@bmad1386]

Laletin not getting his arm snapped while in a bad flop press taking on the full brunt of Ermes' hit is some seriously insane display of durability. On top of that, the giant literally competes and becomes champ in a tournament JUST A FEW DAYS LATER😂 While Ermes(the much harder worker of them) is still in pain from the exertion from their match!

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Exactly! Durability and recovery genetics are so underrated.

[@Lagia7]

This is a good example. I remember Ermes saying he has always had this problem, he gets inflammed quickly. He also attributed it to his genetics

[@bmad1386]

@@Lagia7 that could also be possibly caused by deficiency of some nutrients like vitamin c, which is responsible for fighting inflammation and other stuff

[@silvihome6975]

@@Lagia7 Nah tbh Ermes tends to exagerate the inflammations and recovery issues. Does it affect performance? Yes. Does it affect it as much as Ermes think? Hell no.

[@MidoTamuk]

This channel is LEGIT❤

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Hey thanks for the compliment man! I really love sharing and exploring knowledge, so I hope you got something out of this video. Appreciate the support! 👊

[@Gorilla_ArmWars]

Awesome video bro

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks zarrar! I appreciate the kind comment 👊

[@tonywyou001]

Another good video keep making videos like this

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks for the kind encouragement man! I’m more motivated than ever to keep making good content 💪

[@Joshua_Jean]

Oleg zhokh is often pointed to when talking about insertion length but he actually has the same insertion point as everyone else the only reason it looks different is the muscle belly is much longer, which I would personally list under the muscle architecture portion of the video because it does massively affect the strength of the muscle

[@Joshua_Jean]

Love the video though, keep it up dude

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Fair enough! The insertion point variation from person to person does not vary that much anyway, so I’m inclined to agree with what you said!

[@TNYTNK]

Great video bro👏

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks Tiny! I’m glad you enjoyed the video, and hope you got something out of it! 👊

[@dodgedavidson197]

Great vid

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks for your kind words, dodge!

[@Kai240i]

Great video Greg. For strength genetic you got to think of john brzenk and sasho andreev, those guys are world champion at age 18 lol. For us regular folks, even with 100% commitment may not get to elite levels even in 10yrs.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Exactly! For Sasho Andreev, he trained for 2 weeks and entered Bulgarian nationals where he got 2nd place 🤯 like wtf??

[@Kai240i]

@@EastsideArmWrestling yeap, i honestly think he's even more geneticallt gifted than John. Also alan zoloev is another freak show too. Came out of no where, beat arthor makarov twice and won 4 golds at waf, all while he was a junior lol.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@Kai240i Oh man, you're totally right. Alan is insane, even among the elites. I read somewhere that the Zoloev family even considered him the most gifted out of all the Zoloevs, which is really saying something!

[@Khabib007-e5l]

Utube Channel producing banger after banger contents ✅

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks so much brother, really means so much that you said that 🙏 hope to keep doing good stuff for 2024!

[@Max-zdt54]

I've been ArmWrestling almost 1 year and still everybody wins to me. My dream was being National Champ one day. But even people that don't even go to the gym wins me. And i think i have long arm cause i'm 6'1 - 6'2 but i am skinny. I weight 150 lbs and i have very thin wrists and forearms. And i understand is frustrating cuz i put tons of time learning Everything about ArmWrestling and training consistently but when you don't see results it's normal to start thinking maybe i was not made for this. ArmWrestling is almost like my biggest passion even if i loose every time, so i think i will still doing it for a couple years. But i know that if i'm still in the same point in some more years even if i learn and train a lot i will have to give up and focus only in getting bigger. Some genetics are not predispose to get too much stronger. But first you wanna find out by yourself giving it time and trying to learn a lot on how to do things right, and then making conclusions. I write this the 28/06/2024. If someone remind me in one year or more i will tell if i make it. Good luck to everyone.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thank you very much for sharing your experience man. Yes, unfortunately for some of us, nature is just working against us. But still, don’t let that take away from you enjoying the sport. You are a warrior, keep fighting on.

[@wojack8272]

You are Gem in the armwrestling KZbin area

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

You’re too kind wojack 🙏 I’m glad to be able to keep making videos to entertain you and all the other supporters, and more importantly also encourage more critical thinking in the armwrestling community 💪

[@tonywyou001]

Would like to see a video about the top 10 arm wrestling moves 🤷‍♂️

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha, wow, I’m not sure if I can even name 10 moves off the top of my head! Cool idea though 👍

[@justaguyfromreddit]

5:34 Greg you have to ask permission from those channels you take your picture from! 😂😂 joking of course but thanks to have used me as an example of suboptimal genetics 😂😂

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

😅 of course my friend! You are right, my mistake! If you ever get an mri of your elbow, I will show them what elite elbow genetics are 💪

[@adilsvnc]

Absolutely beautiful video ill translate this and make similar one for Turkish armwrestling community

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

That’s great of you! Would you be able to link your translated version to me whenever you make it? It’d be cool to see!

[@adilsvnc]

@EastsideArmWrestling yes sir definitely ill link your video also ✌️

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@adilsvnc that’s awesome, looking forward to it 💪

[@luvax]

Motivation+good joints and tendons.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Recipe for success!

[@poundforpound199]

Subscribed

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

I appreciate that so much man. I takes a lot of work to put out these videos, so I’m very grateful for your support!

[@bobibufi1389]

I would add 2 factors when it comes to genetics: - if we assume that practically all top armwrestlers are enhanced, then part of one's genetics is a response to PEDs. Some benefit more than others from the same substances/doses. - also genetic resistance to side effects of PEDs. This might not affect immediate performance much, but affects longevity of the athlete's career.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

I specifically left out these factors such as response to PEDs, traveling, weight cutting, etc. as I’d categorize these as “external” variables, but yeah, definitely there are many other factors in play.

[@AIAudiobooks411]

LOL poor Derek, but hes actually a beast and stronger than 99,999% of people in the world.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Exactly, compared to most people, Derek has so many things going for him! Definitely not “bad” genetics by any means, but once we realize how many factors genetics can be split up to, we can see that he’s probably a little more lacking in some of the less obvious areas that might put his contemporaries ahead of him.

[@AIAudiobooks411]

@@EastsideArmWrestling indeed.

[@bmad1386]

​@@EastsideArmWrestling TBH Derek will only seem like he has bad genetics when you compare him to Laletin who is pretty much a unicorn in arm wrestling 😂 It's unfair how someone can be a full time trucker AND a top 5 arm wrestler, while being pretty much a hobbyist 🫤

[@AWDerek]

Laletin arm wrestling since he was a teenager, and training around world champions…. Derek training seriously for 4 years….. lol It’s not a genetics thing besides he has slightly longer levers.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@AWDerek Laletin, who at 22 years old competed in European Championships as a skinny kid, had a war with Roman Filipov, who was already an extremely experienced and successful armwrestler at that time. There’s no doubt Vitaly is extremely gifted man. If you were just as genetically blessed as him, it would’ve been evident by now. You say you’ve been seriously training for 4 years, but on top of that, you’ve been armwrestling in some capacity for what, 13/14 years now? Vitaly could get by doing his trucking work and training once a month purely because of his god-given talents. You on the other hand had to work hard to take yourself to where you are now. Don’t be ashamed of it. Own your genetics. Own your hard work ethic.

[@mcfarvo]

Mike Israetel is a treasure trove of sports science

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

The man legit releases college-level lecture type content all for free for us to take in. So much knowledge to learn from RP.

[@wojack8272]

I am just like you my friend, i have very bad genetics. My hands are small, limbs are long, not very good muscle building genetics and low dense bones. I lost to everyone in armwrestling. But i still out worked everyone and now trying to be number 1 in my country

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

You have a champion’s mindset. Genetics are out of our control, so why even care? Just work hard and we might just surprise ourselves! 👊

[@mrzackkygmaimgthai238]

Bro you need juices

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Where are the link for the videos you talked about (one from Mike and other from yourself)?

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks for notifying me about this! I must have forgotten to add them in. They’re now in the description.

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@@EastsideArmWrestling 👍

[@AdityaPandey-j4v]

Ambition>Talent, Genetics

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Psychological genetics 💪💪

[@AbhimanyuAgnivanshi]

Thank you! Great info❣️

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks for watching and supporting bro. I’m happy you enjoyed the video! 💪

[@tmp0607]

That Derek burn, lol.

[@nahuelfis3253]

Hola, quería consultarte ya que eres un conocedor en el mundo del armwrestling. Se entrena el cardio? O sea trabajos aeróbicos, como por ejemplo correr, andar en bici, nadar, hiit, etc...? Cómo se traslada a la lucha de brazos? Cómo inside? Etc... Quizás es una buena pregunta para contestar con un vídeo? Gracias y tú contenido es sublime, genial. Salud 🇦🇷

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

¡Hola, mi amigo de Argentina! Estoy planeando hacer un video al respecto en el futuro, pero la respuesta breve es esta: El cardio no ayuda mucho en la lucha de brazos porque es una actividad anaeróbica.

[@nahuelfis3253]

@@EastsideArmWrestling Muchas Gracias por responder 👍 Te sigo en el canal. Salud amigo

[@PrinceSaddy7258]

BROTHER TELL TOP 3 SUPPLEMENTS FOR STRONG TENDONS LIGAMENTS AND CARTILAGE

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Hi man! I personally haven’t been taking any supplements lately as I’m a fan of just getting nutrients from whole foods, but if you find you’re missing it in your diet, you can try some collagen supplements.

[@eutiger4789]

and current rulesets(lack of rules) favours the guys with longer lever to climb over short levers in setup

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Which promotion might you be referring to?

[@eutiger4789]

@@EastsideArmWrestling Both east vs west and kott, where a ref cant manage to set even webbing or call a foul properly a single time unless both athletes agree to set up and pull fair. In this situation the guy with longer lever can just take advantage and get anybody under his hand.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@eutiger4789 hopefully the ruleset will eventually evolve to strike a good balance between being fair and also entertaining enough for the audiences. But of course, there needs to be competent refs and the athletes themselves should not act like clowns.

[@AgentOfLogos]

10/10 video

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

You’re a 10/10 supporter man 👊 If there’s an opposite of canalization rat, that’s what you are 😂💯

[@AgentOfLogos]

@@EastsideArmWrestling 😂

[@peepeoeoepoo]

yo can you make a vid abt toproll?

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Hi peepoo, I recently made a video touching on the toproll (kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZCveJmrr5aFrassi=PfY4a_r-rnNtDMmu) I’m sure I’ll make future videos covering other aspects of the toproll as well!

[@MohamedBoukiren]

Is there way for getting bogger in the size of hand safety way

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

There are muscles in the hand you can train, like those in your thumb and pinky pad

[@i_mch]

Any tips on endurance? For someone whos verys explosive and fast off the start but if contained gasses out faster than the latter

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Hey man, endurance is a funny one: some people, of course, are more genetically predisposed to having greater muscular endurance, but it can still be trained to some extent by doing higher reps or training for longer on the table. However “endurance” is also in a way an illusion as well. I plan to cover it in a future video, but one example I can give you for this is just being stronger than your opponent gives you the illusion of having more endurance anyway.

[@TheAntoniomol02]

Get stronger, and get stronger in multiples aspects (angles, long, short, max, isometrics, high, mid, low reps) and in this situations you have to be smarter and be more eficient

[@TheAntoniomol02]

For example devon use different tecniques to not get too tired

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@TheAntoniomol02 very very good advice 👍

[@TheAntoniomol02]

@@EastsideArmWrestling thxs just my opinion, not with the best English btw, something more to say is my tip was too general but I have to see how is he in the table. And nice video and good content in general, my genetics aren't the best too but keep training and getting better

[@Aunkyz-ur7xy]

1:27 is there a way to increse the amount of force my nervous system can use? Everytime i arm wrestle my hand doesn't feel much pain while my friend had to rest for a week after arm wrestling.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

With more weight training, your body naturally learns to recruit more muscle fibers to overcome the load. I’m not sure if there’s a specific way to “train” the nervous system other than to just lift heavy weights.

[@Aunkyz-ur7xy]

@@EastsideArmWrestling more weight training means that training using heavy weights right?

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@Aunkyz-ur7xy yeap, progressively overloading and getting stronger. Plyometric training could also help to some extent to increase explosiveness which can help.

[@Aunkyz-ur7xy]

@@EastsideArmWrestling alright. Thanks.

[@sinewyslacker8978]

Does bro know the secret of proper oscillations 🤔

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Not sure what that is, haha

[@snsdkbopper7819]

Apparently I’m a unusual case, because although Im a big & tall guy, and was stronger and more athletic than most of my peers while growing up, and I’ve resistance trained for over 40yrs, But (for my size) neither my hands are arms are big relatively, BUT yet I’ve always been very dominant at arm wrestling among my peers, friends and acquaintances, Constantly beating people with bigger hands and arms than me, and also beating countless people who can bench press way more than me, It seems for some genetic reason that I can generate a lot of strength in the arm wrestling vectors, and I’m particularly proficient at top rolling, although I can hook good as well. Lastly, I genuinely love arm wrestling.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Thanks for sharing your personal and very relevant example, kbopper! Obviously bigger hands can help, but we can see from yourself that other things can play a role too. Perhaps your nervous system is just that much better at engaging your muscles, or maybe you may have better muscle insertion points? We may not know exactly, but these invisible factors definitely play a bigger role than many might realize!

[@aldinoindra2742]

@@EastsideArmWrestling Talking abt muscle and tendon insertion i find it fascinating that elite player most have a high brachioradialis insertion and long bicep muscle like young skinny Ermes, Alizhan Muratov, Alan Zoloev to name a few

[@worldofwarcraftvince]

Genetics is one thing. But hard work and a training style that will suit you will maximise your potential even exceed it. An example would be, Todd Hutchings. He doesn’t really have the best genetics yet he is one of the best there is in the heavyweights.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha, Todd has insanely good genetics 🧬

[@worldofwarcraftvince]

@ if were talking about the level of the top elites in arm wrestling. He’s probably below of them all. There is the size of forearms, the length of the arm, the size of the wrist and hands. It all comes to play when it comes to raw strength no technique. The reason why Todd Hutching is so strong and still one of the best elites of the sport despite not being really genetically gifted for arm wrestling is because his training focus solely in side pressure with different ways of hand containment which directly translate to arm wrestling and has made a training program specifically to effectively get stronger.

[@bmad1386]

​@@worldofwarcraftvince have you seen the size of uncle Todd's wrists? That shit looks ridiculous even for their level and weight class

[@dinarosyt8264]

7:55 and even jf you have bad genetics so what?

[@Pepe-pq3om]

Renaissance periodization gang

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Haha ✊ RP University represent

[@Pepe-pq3om]

@@EastsideArmWrestling 💪😎

[@watzegjemedaarnouvan]

Im 13 160cm tall kinda big hands for my size and i beat people who are 2x my size. but i have very bad endurcance. Since im small my hands are small since my height but compared to others my height it good. my brother is very tall soo i hope that im just a little late to the growth.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@watzegjemedaarnouvan however it may turn out, work with what u got 💪

[@jankowalski1501]

i mean, yeah, there are factors that make a person A better than person B :) Eeven with same myscle mass :) I mean, what is strange about this?

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Nothing strange! Just that many people don’t know exactly what these factors might refer to. Most average armwrestlers only think it’s like “hand size” or “arm length” but there’s so much more to it!

[@mrzackkygmaimgthai238]

and it's about your body response to the anabolic steroids

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

💀💀💀

[@mrzackkygmaimgthai238]

it's the truth tho@@EastsideArmWrestling

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@mrzackkygmaimgthai238 yes, there are many other factors I didn’t mention too, like how your body responds to jet lag, cutting weight, etc. This video was more focused on the main physical genetic aspects relating to strength.

[@JungkookPark-pl6vq]

Train harder get stronger

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Wise words! That’s all we really need to do for armwrestling to be honest 😂

[@amanpratapsingh425]

green T-shirt man is asker ali

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Yeap, I had the pleasure of meeting and pulling Asker in Dubai. He’s quite strong 👍

[@AbhimanyuAgnivanshi]

​@@EastsideArmWrestlingi have pulled him too🙌.. What do you think of strength gap bw you two? .. Coz it would give me an idea how strong you guys are

[@Ferdilly2220]

Me short forearm 😭

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Doesn’t matter too much if you have a short forearm. As long as your posting backpressure is good, that’s advantageous for you! Check out guys like Marcio Barboza

[@sinpoeanarconna2974]

You don't know my Power.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

👊 I’m sure you are powerful indeed

[@gaeldominguezpinon1895]

Interesting

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Still many factors that go into it, be I hoped the be able to cover some of the main ones here. Thanks for watching man 🙏

[@gaeldominguezpinon1895]

​@@EastsideArmWrestling👍i dont really know what is the "frame" and how it works, i think you should make a video of how to use your frame in armwrestling. I dont know if you said something of that in your video because i dont know english.👍

[@gaeldominguezpinon1895]

Oh you said it, now i understand more of the frame

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

@@gaeldominguezpinon1895 frame is your bones, tendons, ligaments

[@abcwarrior91]

What do you think about race? We know genetics is related to race as well. I think Europeans (white people) are the strongest, not only in arm wrestling but in all types of strength sports. They hold the world record for pretty much every heaviest lift ever done by mankind. I think Asians come in second we are pretty strong in the lower weight class and pound for pound, but Europeans are strongest overall.

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Migan from Team 3D Alpha has made a video about your exact question! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJ_Kl4OKn6x0bq8si=fPbayDPW1iyzU4Oq

[@abcwarrior91]

@@EastsideArmWrestling yea I seen that video too lol

[@senditsillly1423]

asdf

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

🤨😰

[@RealUnreal6]

Как приятно слушать твои верные научные рассуждения

[@EastsideArmWrestling]

Спасибо брат. Мне нравится говорить, используя свой мозг, а не множество людей, которые говорят импульсивно.