How God Of War was RUINED - Part 1

[@underthemayo]

Part 2 is now available!: "WHY God Of War was Ruined" kzbin.info/www/bejne/apDUmqyGqtR2apo Here me talk about GOW 2018 with Kaptain Kuba right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eofVlJaOfaqkkKM Original post: So, I made this video over a year ago. Never knowing what to expect. I'm considering a followup, now my channel has unexpectedly gotten a lot more traffic. I appreciate the support, and I know a lot of people disagree with my take on the game. I understand that. I never expected mass approval from attacking one of the most critically acclaimed games ever. This video was more about providing an outlet for people that I knew felt the way I did about it. I ask that you put your feelings about the game aside, and listen to what I'm trying to say here. You don't have to agree. You can still say you love the game and that's fine. But there is another perspective on the design choices they made, and that's what this is for. If you've enjoyed this video, check out my latest content. And maybe you'll find something else you like. Thanks. - Mayo

[@palindinX]

You let your feelings be known. I know exactly how you feel when one of your long running beloved franchise gets a "reboot" and everyone else all of sudden forgets how good the original was, even going as far as downplaying the original just to make the newer entry seem like it some kind Grandiose product. I knew there was something about the new God Of War game that just didn't compel me to jump on the "Greatest game of all time" bandwagon, and after stumbling upon your video by chance and hearing your personal experiences and opinions of both the originals and new GOW, did I come to realise that I would've had the exact same feelings as you did. Good video, bro. You definitely made a lot of people mad, but I appreciate your honest perspective.

[@andrewrogers3067]

A follow up would be awesome! Speak your feelings, you got my sub from that.

[@Lucasio1209]

I absolutely loved this game, but I respect your bravery to criticize it.

[@underthemayo]

@@Lucasio1209 thanks man. i respect your love the game too!

[@Lucasio1209]

@@underthemayo Holy Shit! Didn't expect a response, keep up the great work man!

[@ijustworkhere1008]

Who would win: Kratos, son of Zeus, king of the Gods, who singlehandedly slew every God of Greece, several titans, and several mythological creatures and heroes. A man who died and came back from hell twice, who defied fate itself, and whose fights would level landscapes and even whole countries Or A draugr with a purple health bar

[@flamingmanure]

The unnecessary and badly designed rpg mechanics and balancing is one of the reasons i didnt like this game tbh.

[@MetalGearDavid57]

Lol this argument is as stupid as the Kratos struggling to open a chest when he could squat a literal statue argument.

[@joenathan8059]

It was the dark souls skeleton, better luck next time

[@DoomRater]

This game has boat cancelling. Your argument is invalid.

[@HSE_VO]

Lmao you can literally say this about any game... Kratos could also be beaten by small enemies in harder difficulties in previous games. Are you dumb?

[@mctankies]

Cool! They gave that guy from Mortal Kombat 9 his own game.

[@jam5287]

I hope you’re a troll lol

[@brucenatelee]

@@jam5287 Pretty weak joke, if not to just remind us of his PS exclusivity with the character.

[@nicolaemihaila6036]

It's ok dude. It was a good joke

[@latviandragon2718]

😂😂😂

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

What are you talking about? This guy is from SOUL Calibur for PSP.

[@gabrielmorris7131]

Kratos: Wants revenge for his wife and child. Also kratos: Sex minigame for those red orbs

[@Artvader_AF]

I don't think you're familiar with Greek Mythology.

[@gabrielmorris7131]

@@Artvader_AF it's a joke. Calm down 🤡

[@fadlinugraha347]

@@gabrielmorris7131 virgin

[@cosmic_gate476]

I barely remember it, thanks for bringing that up

[@Samantas5855]

you get the spartan kick

[@ProxyDoug]

Barely starting, but props for giving the combat of the original games it's due respect as it tends to be criticized by people who barely scratched the surface of what could be done with it.

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

Saying its just "button mashing" says more about the gamer than the game

[@YEY0806]

@ZinxTheSlayer exactly, and it pissess me off that one can just judge an entire series with absolutely no willingness to experience them in order to understand

[@connorwheatley5640]

@@ZinxTheSlayer for sure. it's a lot like criticizing the combat of devil may cry while sticking to basic combos.

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

@@connorwheatley5640 exactly.

[@asundelgun3487]

I have heard people call it a button masher which is idiotic, however you cannot tell me that the game isn't square square triangle for the win

[@TovenDo.O.Video-]

I can get behind a reviewer who gives his honest opinion instead of trying to please everyone, even if I don't agree with them.

[@eliaslamsa6541]

i think he just presents his points immaturely and bashes the game when he doesn't understand the combat system fully.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

@@eliaslamsa6541 He is right about the older games being much better. This is a pleb-friendly artsy-fartsy shitshow.

[@LudlowSRK]

The combat system wasn’t hard to adapt to, by any standard. Just because someone can’t adapt doesn’t mean it’s a bad game, at all.

[@lisupei6042]

Sony fanboys are the most pathetic and zealotic human beings in the industry, easily tricked by pretty visual and presentation and all kinds of surface level factors into rationalizing the game without any amount of critical thinking

[@bignewsmorgans93]

Johnny Tsunami He doesn’t understand the combat system fully because he doesn’t want to take the time to learn it. He went into this game with the mindset of wanting to hate it because it wasn’t like the old GOW games.

[@TheQuatum]

Refreshing to see someone ACTUALLY acknowledge God of War ALWAYS had a good story. Most reviewers are acting like the new one is the only GOW with a good story

[@rsmith8113]

Well, normies have never played the originals ofc they have no idea about the story. Just look at all those youtubers, none of them actually played or liked the originals only a couple of them.

[@Birthday888]

I think the problem is less that God of War doesn't have a good story, and more like Kratos' story from the original games is over. What, is he going to get angry at a bunch of gods from another pantheon and kill them in a bloodthirsty rage *again*? That would just be lazy. Plus, as awesome as old Kratos is, he isn't really a character you can sympathize with, or if you can, it's only really with the feeling of rage and anger, which does leave his character feeling a bit one note. Of course, that's the entire point and it's an awesome one note, that doesn't change the fact that it's still just one note.

[@yvonnewilson2242]

@@Birthday888 Dude, he wasn't one-note AT ALL. Even the nuances of his humanity were shown all through the series. People claim Kratos as one-note to justify calling the current GOW a masterpiece. The new GOW wouldn't even EXIST without Kratos' "one-note" character arc. The biggest mistake was replacing TC Carson as Kratos to begin with. I feel he would've at least captured the changed Kratos better than the actor who voices him now.

[@depressedcheems9961]

@Johnn Doe Who in this comment chain said the new story is bad?

[@diousthomas8878]

Genocidal Ape Hey, about the voice actor. I feel like the new one shows Kratos as a much more humble and appreciating person funny enough. I can’t see TC Carson pulling off Kratos I guess technically speaking thanking Brok or the truth with Atreus that he is a god. I love TC Carson but the new actor is just something else man. And whenever he found out Atreus was sick those words “I did this to him?” You can just feel that he is remembering his past life and his remembrance of his daughter and maybe even Pandora. But god damn was TC Carson amazing at his acting.

[@extrasalt9053]

"Kratos jumping would look too silly, this game is supposed to be serious" Atreus: WHATEVER

[@rsmith8113]

Sekiro wanna have a word with that person 😄

[@Dacho_Shaki]

We're talking about a demigod who can lift the entire fucking temple by himself. 😂 Goddammit, Cory.

[@eainjones9509]

What this says to me is "We don't know how to animate, so we're scrapping an entire aspect of the series."

[@ryantony7743]

His name is BOI

[@damienlockhart6288]

@@eainjones9509 I doubt you could do anything close to this so don’t talk shit about a company “not being able to animate” you cry baby

[@Jrockk999]

The worst part about the camera is that Santa Monica bragged about the new engine being able to handle 150 enemies compared to the 50 that GoW3 could handle. But with the camera change, the amount of focus is narrowed and there are less enemies on the screen compared to older games.

[@leonpaelinck]

LMAO when do you ever fight more than five enemies in this game?

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

"we can handle 150 enemies on screen!" "Okay do it" "No"

[@easonzhang1326]

wtf，why did they said that since they didnt do anything like that in the game

[@chadgrimes252]

This is a classic example of scam marketing making it seem like the new GOW is some kind of upgrade and improvement when in reality its a massive downgrade compared to the old GOW games

[@FuzFuz]

Side cameras are fucking awful.

[@StrunDoNhor]

GamingBrit summed up this game's atrocious RPG systems perfectly: "The dude killed the Olympian Pantheon shirtless, and you're telling me I need to level up armor?"

[@westonmuse9634]

Well if you do research you'll find gow 3 and gow 4 take place 100 years apart. He's aged

[@StrunDoNhor]

@@westonmuse9634 I can see where you're coming from; after all, 100 years is a literal lifetime to us. However, Kratos is _a god._ If he can age 100 years and look no more than a decade older than he did in the OG series, I think it's safe to say time doesn't affect him like it affects us. Also, it's worth pointing out that he is still able to recover from wounds near-instantly, Wolverine-style, and is physically strong enough to flip an entire temple upside-down. Regardless of his age, "upgrading armor" is tonally inconsistent with what Kratos is capable of in the game.

[@westonmuse9634]

@24 7 who the hell was talking AB dante. I'm talking AB how he looks wayyy older and has wrinkles and Is also 100 years older. He's still half human. His human side still makes him age quicker than say zeus. I still don't get why the fuck your talking ab dante nobody said that. I've never even played the dmc games so I wouldn't know if he would win or not

[@AkhileshShankar9]

@@StrunDoNhor He is demi-god , half-human, half-god, it's possible for him to age

[@StrunDoNhor]

@@AkhileshShankar9 Well, don't take my word for it then. Cory Barlog (the director of God of War 1, 2 & 4), said Kratos is immortal in an interview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXvVmoWifc-WiNk At around 1:00:05 And like I mentioned above, age is only part of the issue. Kratos is still a physical behemoth of a man. He can Wolverine-heal, but apparently still needs a half-inch of leather to really soak up those hits. I'm still talking about silly it is that Kratos has to buy armor, as part of a larger criticism that the game's RPG systems are half-baked and unnecessary.

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

"Chains of Olympus had an emotional story" *PRESS CIRCLE REPEATEDLY TO ABANDON YOUR DAUGTHER*

[@thewanderingartists]

And it hurt so much 🤕 Kratos was finally happy for a while.

[@perseastheodoropoulos7367]

To save her life. He had to abandon her in order to beat the villains so as she can live in heaven

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

@@perseastheodoropoulos7367 When I was younger, I was a simple child, I saw the square, I tapped that square

[@calvinripley9093]

Emotional*

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

Thank you

[@slashingzordz7998]

“Forget about double jumping i can’t single jump” lmao

[@2_572]

He farts and squeezes his ass for the second jump it totally makes sense.

[@abdousebban8792]

Lol facts 🤣

[@xUseTheForks]

Yer dumb complaint

[@xtata]

I just finished God of War 2018 and it feels like the combat is nerfed. Combat was way better in the trilogy.

[@scottbranam8306]

did you get to the blades of chaos oh I just spilled the beans

[@joeyhuebner10]

@@scottbranam8306- He said he finished the game, how could he have not gotten to the blades of chaos?

[@xUseTheForks]

Yer nah

[@tonyx2644]

"If all of Olympus will deny me my vengeance, then all of Olympus will die." Best foreshadowing ever.

[@TheRaptorian]

Kratos today, war is not the answer buhuuuee boy boy buhuuu, he is pathetic now.

[@LilGabri94]

@@TheRaptorian he’s just matured and wise, nth wrong with that

[@dylm8689]

@@TheRaptorian Well we've had like 6 games of angry Kratos. The revenge arc is long past it's expiration date.

[@TheRaptorian]

@@dylm8689 Kratos is anger though. He is the ghost of Sparta, the God of War. Well, he was I should say.

[@TheRaptorian]

@@LilGabri94 matured and wise? He changed because director of new gow considered his anger toxic, he isnt wise he speaks of peace but wages war. He could leave, he could lie down and face death, show the boy the price of not fighting back. But he wont, he will keep fighting and warring because that is the answer, if he wants to live if he wants his son to live that is the answer. So is he wise, no. Is he influenced by political views of one dude today and his propaganda, yeah. And his character payed for it.

[@Agensahu]

Under The Mayo: GOD OF WAR is RUINED!!!! Atreus: Whatever

[@PowerHouseDream]

lmfao

[@vlad_47]

For real..

[@FlyingShadow11]

fucking boi

[@pepepenasalme9241]

Mayo: TRIGGERED

[@underthemayo]

@Cannon Raborn I'm waiting on that ogre defamation lawsuit

[@Sullenify]

So glad that Devil May Cry V stuck to its guns and went full hog wild crazy Japanese action.

[@ollytherev2957]

Queen-Roger so glad god of war stuck to the action and overly violent routes and deepened one of the Elements form the orignal

[@Grim187Grey]

Agreed. If they wanted to change the way the character played, why not just make him a new character? Kinda like Nero? Similar but different.

[@StardustCrusader18]

THIS! DMC 5 is one of my favourite games of all time. I can't imagine how it would be if they did it like God of war (trash)

[@snaggle_tooth6829]

Devil may cry 5 kinda sold out too especially to the western audience. Dante reminds me of like a protagonist in a marvel movie.

[@StardustCrusader18]

@@snaggle_tooth6829 Honestly the writing is better in Dmc4 and especially Dmc3 but Dante is such a boomer now and I love it :)

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

I seriously respect you for responding to the comments all these years later. Rare to find a creator who actually fights for his viewpoints

[@ulfberht4431]

Yes, fighting for viewpoints that come off as rather biased gatekeeping of the original and talking down to even the most rational of detractors. VEEEEERY WELL RESPECTED my hairy ass.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@ulfberht4431 Go shave it then, keyboard warrior.

[@jeffmiller5982]

lmao, he hasn't replied to you yet. @@juanjoyaborja.3054

[@ulfberht4431]

@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Yes, keep using your pointless buzzwords. Does my opinion greatly disturb you or offend you in anyway? Has my nasty words upset your fanboyism towards your senpai! Aww, good.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@ulfberht4431 Boohoo. Seethe some more, scumbag.

[@I3rvndon]

"NO JUMP BUTTON!!!!?!?!?!?!?" Legend of Zelda: "First time?"

[@AydarBMSTU]

"JUMP BUTTON?" Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild : "First time?"

[@lucasmckee4059]

Dark Souls: wait that exists?

[@lenarteler4453]

@@lucasmckee4059 dark souls technically has a jump button, it just works differently

[@mullaoslo]

@@AydarBMSTU it's litteraly why u couldn't get into 3d zeldas before botw.. And a huge reason why I love the original gow trilogy over gow ps4.. A jump button i crucial for me to enjoy a action game.. Without it I feel like I'm guided on a path

[@dathunderman4]

@@lenarteler4453 you know what he means tho. On dark souls you can’t get over a 1 foot tall ledge. You can do the sprint + jump thing to get across gaps but you can almost never go anywhere vertically in that game without ladders or steps

[@kratosrivia2498]

I agree with your points here. The combat in the previous GOW games were much more exciting and had a lot of verticality and gore to it. The new GOW combat was not as exciting and intense as the previous games, and the enemies and bosses were repetitive and boring. But GOW had to evolve as a story, and the Norse mythology was a great step taken by Santa Monica. I'm hoping they make the combat more intense and exciting in Ragnarok, with the addition of more diverse enemies and bosses.

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

They sacrificed a bit of gameplay in exchange of story? (I guess it’s an equivalent exchange)

[@sarveshsivakumar8956]

@@Randomdudefromtheinternet no dude this is a game not a movie all I wish is more bosses and another weapon which would make it perfect yes 2018 gow was good but the best thing is combat and story driven by gameplay ,bosses,puzzles, platforming which makes this perfect i was not satisfied that we can't jump and there is no xp for how you play if they make this better I think it would be even better that's it

[@fernaandocobobadia]

They have said that they will add more verticality to the combat in ragnarok

[@Zexibata]

To be honest, the history couldn't possibly have another take as we know....the whole Greek world was destroyed

[@icarovdl]

storytelling did not get better, wtf

[@flynnsfortune6209]

I'm a huge God Of War fan and I loved GOW2018... But I've only ever beat it once... GOW 1 x3, GOW 2 x2, Ascension x2 GOW 3 X 9... I went back to GOW2018 after doing a playthrough of GOW3 and all I thought was... Man this shit is tedious.

[@christopheryanez]

I mean if your trying to kill yourself with another Give Me God of War run then yeah it’ll be tedious lmao

[@andreskattan2197]

Because you can finish the previous God of War games in a weekend. The latest one is on average 40 hours long.

[@ompampassou7034]

@@andreskattan2197 The story is only 20 hours. But if you are talking about 100% completing it and getting the platinum then you are right it does take 40 hours.

[@vishnutheetharappan7074]

GMGOW is super scuffed unless your on new game plus, then it's a lot more balanced (or maybe i'm just bad :/ this was my first soulslike) edit: ik it's not a soulslike c h i l l

[@flynnsfortune6209]

@@vishnutheetharappan7074 nothing like souls really tbh... But yea the enemy's just have shit tonnes of health and deal more damage. the combat gets old especially early on..

[@oimickey6110]

I really enjoyed (Norse) God of War on the first playthrough. That was it. With God of War III, I used to love playing that game from start to finish more times than I can count. Your observation of the close-camera during combat is spot on! Ghost of Tsushima has the behind-the-shoulder cam that also zooms out when in combat. Norse God of War could have simply done that. You also make a terrific observation about zooming out during combat would have allowed for more enemies that aren't health sponges. The Greek-era God of War games having weaker enemies in higher numbers makes you, the player, feel like god without feeling OP. I completely also agree with the lack of enemy variety in the Norse GoWs. Overall, solid criticisms and a great video.

[@baileybuckley4796]

It also feels like a cluster and makes kratos feel even more old bc the camera doesn’t really allow for aerial attacks or anything of that nature.

[@alexmichaelraccoonplays8777]

Well, I like both games and I certainly have played god of war 3 more times than god of war 2018, but that's because god of war 3 is a shorter game.

[@SomeBlackGuy]

I think it's important to mention that Kratos did not want forgiveness, but to be stripped of the memories of his sins. They only said they'd forgive him which he understood as they agreed to his wishes. Buuuut we all know how that ended up. Moral of the story is, don't try to pull a fast one on Kratos.

[@thecoconutgum]

Ok

[@angellara7040]

It was more a well technically moment from Athena if I remember correctly

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Thats not the moral of the story. The real moral of the story is how sony ruined the combat system. They did pull as fast one on Kratos. He cant jump anymore.

[@streetsdisciple0014]

@@vorpalinferno9711 and he runs so slow

[@adolfo777nica]

@@thecoconutgum Tracka

[@rabbadidi7385]

The original God of war was the whole reason I saved up and bought a ps2. I played a bit at a friend's place and immediately knew I wanted to finish it

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

What're your thoughts on this one?

[@Berd-Wasted.]

He has not responded. It is possible he is "dead".

[@SadMoribund]

@@Berd-Wasted. the virus got em

[@user-ly2ll5od1r]

so? The new god of war 2018 was the whole reason I saved up and bought a ps4. I played a bit at a friend's place and immediately knew I wanted to finish it. And I can bet this same story happened with 2018 god of war more. Seeing how the new god of war outsold the entire franchise combined. It's just a much more fun game to play than the old ones. Hack and slash was never a genre that was "good". It gets repetitive after 3 minutes. It's a one trick pony, you did your light and heavy attack you basically experienced the entire game. ah yes, combos, the combos that do as much damage as a normal light attack, but by the time you finish the button combination, you'd be able to dish out even more damage if you just mashed light attack the entire time. truly one of the genres of all time. Oh and don't forget the saturday morning cartoon story with 2 dimensional characters.

[@MiniKodjo]

I never owned a ps2 but when GoW came out i instantly bought the game and ask a friend to lend his ps2 to me for a week or two...

[@hankenburg7581]

It’s nice to see that there aren’t many people in these comments who are butt hurt by this video, I mean they’re still there but there’s not as many, nice to see people repeat others opinions, I mean I fucking love this game but I respect your opinion and the fact you were willing to make this video expressing it,

[@kush6846]

For sure but the original games were a lot more compelling. I like the new one too, but it felt like a naughty dog game, not a god of war game.

[@anneshepard]

This is rarity. If you say something with a smidge of disapproval related to the new game in reddit they'll eat you up

[@anneshepard]

@Chandler Burse well.. you're not wrong, unfortunately. It's just this is new to me since I've never really got close to any of the communities. I was an idiot to think gow community would be more mature than tlou2 fans. I guess it doesn't matter the game, if people consider it a work of art/perfection most won't accept the fact you don't love the things they love as much as they do.

[@anneshepard]

@Chandler Burse @ agreed. I still love the last of us and it is art to me but I didn't lose my shit when my brother didn't liked it as much as I did. He's not a fan of story driven games that doesn't make him stupid or unable to comprehend the story. I don't understand, really don't. It seems to me people aren't just unable to accept things have an end (look at terminator or some other franchise that continued even after was already done) but also incapable of even thinking that maybe the things they like aren't that perfect after All. What's wrong with enjoying things that aren't that good? Just because they like it, it MUST be perfection. No one should dare say otherwise. The thing you said about the developers is just.... I heard they themselves are claiming Kratos is finally deep and god of war matured. Idk what their intentions are but that's just bollocks. Is like nothing is as deep as having a child. Suicide isn't that deep, betrayal, self loathing, hatred, etc. None of that matters as much as parenting? I saw people talking about the old gow games as shallow and weak and they played them. But it's not deep because it doesn't have top notch graphics or several emotional cinematic moments? That's almost as saying "I don't like poems therefore they are shit". Just because you're not captivated the same way you are while reading a book, that doesn't diminishes the importance and meaning of poems. Sorry ended up venting.

[@zerosnake57]

Assassins creed is my favorite series but when someone criticizes me for liking Origins or Odyssey. Or thinking that Assassins creed 2 is kinda bare bones in regards to combat. (I still thoroughly enjoy Ac2)

[@bearieroblox6451]

Lack of aerial combat in the newer games really sucks. I liked how agile kratos was.

[@abbottvisr1234]

that’s why i hate playing as kratos and liked playing as atreus in ragnacock.

[@dirtyfighters7751]

Gotta agree. Not only did it allow for aerial moves and fun tricks to pull off, but it also helped for evasion, which would’ve been very useful in the newer games given how common it is for enemies to combo and trap you in corners where they just finish you off instantly.

[@user-vg8tv1hp9c]

@@dirtyfighters7751that and enemies are weird. They’re not so hard but when you’re low on health they all gang up and attack perfectly in succession. They randomly get hard out of nowhere and others they’re dumb bots.

[@blackharpy7468]

Kratos got old.

[@mike.mentzers_top_guy]

Now that you mention how agile Kratos was, what I like about that the most is how badass Kratos is when he climbs walls and ceilings with no climbing equipment, no fear, just his pure blades and strength to stab them into the walls and also combat while doing those

[@liamgoku22]

People who say the original god of war series didn’t have a good story and wasn’t deep obviously have never played it. That’s crazy to me people have been saying that since the new ones have come out

[@neinja66469]

Tbf they don't really have easy access to the older games all u can do is emulate or buy an older console (PS2s aren't hard to find but their lifespan don't last as long and PS3? A physical copy is ur only option since their PSN store is down now) so I can't blame them for a limited perception cuz these guys don't look that deep into games

[@imthethriller]

Or there not really paying attention and see it as "dat gayme wit Blud and bewbs"

[@bruh5073]

@@neinja66469 PSNow exists.

[@neinja66469]

@@bruh5073 kinda sucks tho I wanna keep these games not stream them

[@SuperShortAndSweet]

@@neinja66469 buy gow collection on ps3 has all 3 games? I'm pretty sure its backwards compatible

[@Codem750]

I really agree with the bosses fights and fights in general. In my opinion, they were kind of boring and not impressive in comparison with the other games.

[@The-god-of-war]

IDK, for me the bosses in this game are somewhat similar to the other games, older games had you fight them, then fight smaller enemies or big ones, then fight them again about 3 or 4 times, then you qte to kill them in a gruesome way. same thing with the fights in this game. But I do want to hear your thoughts as well. I do like having a diff perspective.

[@pablogomesoliveira2677]

Fr like half the bosses were trolls , really hoped they put something different in ragnarok

[@mr.amazonsins8013]

@@pablogomesoliveira2677 bosses were restricted by the budget I hope ragnarok will have all of norse gods as boss fights

[@Shameer24]

@@mr.amazonsins8013 agreed, I do hope their are more large scale bosses present in ragnarok

[@andidinu1456]

@@mr.amazonsins8013 i hope the combat in general gets more varied and we get more interesting enemies and mechanics ,cause honestly there’s no other way to put it ,the combat in this game is bad ,just bad : repetitive ,oversimplified, the ARPG elements turn fights into a joke ,and just too much HP ,preety much the only way this game knows to buff it’s enemies is to turn them into damage sponges ,or to make them dans around the arena ,forcing you to wrestle the camera Of course the easy solution to this problem is to also dash around the arena and put your back againt a corner ,so you can see all the arena ,but it gets old quick And the bosses are easier and less challenging than most of the normal enemy encounters You see , in almost every game , the bosses are purpusely designed to be extremely hard to stun ,so that you Both keep dishing out your attacks ,heck ,some of the best ones ,like Hércules , could even parry your attacks. However ,here , Baldur is as easy to Block and stun as the average draugur (the regular zombi goons), so fighting him is just like fighting a dashing draugur with a gigantic health bar The dragon is a set piece battle like the Collosus or Cronos but it lacks the element of scale that made those interesting : fighting an army of gross monsters as you climb your way up your mountain sized pops as he attepts to squash you , being trown around a burning city by a gold statue while performant epic QUTEs . It resembles the hydra in the original , in that it takes way too long and is hella repetitive The trolls regardeless whether they are minibosses or actual bosses ,are the definition of a bad enemy design ,for the same reason as the dragon ,except there’s like seven of them

[@Quadruple_curious]

Under the mayo: Complains about Atreus whining Also under the mayo: Whines for 58 minutes

[@underthemayo]

Pretty good one.

[@Nightflyermike]

Gr8 b8 m8. I r8 1/8

[@halion4487]

Under The Mayo glad to see you can take a joke. Major props from me

[@PartStupid]

@@halion4487 - Gotta give credit where credit is due even if you disagree. But yeah sadly some people cannot take jokes or criticism so it is nice to see someone who can (though to be fair with this video he has had time to acclimate over the past year, the real question is was he this cool about it the days directly after he first posted it).

[@nikhilgirard2356]

Under The Mayo shut up.

[@nabongobong9155]

"Kratos has forgotten how to jump in his old age" This is a good line 😂

[@shrimpfry880]

GoW1-3: doom but against gods. You are an unstoppable killing machine yet it still has a great story. GoW4: The Last of Us Nordic edition

[@GingerBeard24]

@Molnar Robi God of War 4 is nothing like The Last of Us. It deals with Kratos being wise about his past mistakes,and learning how to control his "Spartan Rage".

[@yourwifesboyfriend8688]

@@GingerBeard24 it's nothing like Gow story wise, but on the gameplay Focus is really similar

[@batmenbeyont7775]

@@GingerBeard24 I don't see how that's a good thing. Isn't it like saying the next Doom game is about the Doomslayer learning from his past killing entire legions of hell and being wiser about his rage against them?

[@GingerBeard24]

@@batmenbeyont7775 Kratos regrets killing (literally) his whole entire family. Killing his wife and daughter by being controlled by Ares, then doing so he wanted to change fate to bring them back to life.

[@batmenbeyont7775]

@@GingerBeard24 I'm talking about killing the gods not his fam

[@__jevnpaul__]

Under the mayo: god of war is so boring this guy has so much hp Me: *Laughs in zeus’s armor*

[@pickle5074]

*laughs in Cursed Mist build*

[@vlad_47]

Laughs im my mist/valkyrie 150 luck build with all possible Realm Shift abilities.

[@EthanTheDinoNerd]

Me: Laughs at turning the difficulty to give me a story mode.

[@Nightflyermike]

Laughs in confused why were all laughing

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@Nightflyermike laughs in being together with everyone while they're laughing.

[@lautairemeiyer3292]

That bit about playing the older games on higher difficulty is on point. Almost every move you do matters and if you let yourself be carried away by doing combos you're gonna get pummeled to death by mobs of enemies. The harder the difficulty the more tactical you need to be when utilizing your arsenal of spells weapons and combos.

[@underthemayo]

It's like everyone just forgot.

[@robertoandrerocatorres7257]

Square square triangle

[@alexisdelangel13]

@@robertoandrerocatorres7257 better than hold R2 to beat the game - executioners cleave.

[@alexisdelangel13]

@Nocturnal Death Nothing requires you to change weapons in 2018 as well. As runic attacks override the the one enemy that forces you to switch (the ice dudes.) Nvm the fact if you do a fresh new game + run it is completely beatable with just the chains, or just the fists. Sure you need atreus as well but he serves the purpose magic and items did in the old. Literally God of War 3 forced you to changed to cestus for certain enemies. God of War 2018 can be beaten on GMGOW by literally holding R2 (executioner's cleave) and nothing else. I've done it. Hold R2 rinse and repeat until the end. That isn't tactical. I'm sure you get the point. The funny thing is I am right. Yes light, light, heavy is an obvious crutch string but it required build up to the reward (The stagger/Knockdown of the heavy), enemy corralling into it and spacing at least. Is it too strong? Sure. Is it suddenly game breaking? No because then you would have to treat executioner's cleave with this same treatment, this myopic view of the combat. (Btw I am pretty sure it even works on most ice enemies still anyway)

[@q-tips9984]

@Nocturnal Death highly doubt that lol loser andy trying to prove smth

[@natetete1379]

New God of war is just uncharted with kratos. All PS4 exclusives play and feel the same. Because they are just re-skins of the same game engine and animations.

[@datboiparsa3430]

I don’t think that the new god of war is disappointing but I do prefer the older ones

[@RebornVengeancex]

You don't he does

[@tomharly8026]

@@RebornVengeancex ...

[@916MUTE]

It is Kratos is Joel in a kratos costume and the boy is Ellie. Too many similarities couldn’t enjoy gameplay it just made me wanna play TLOU or Dark souls TBH surprised they didn’t get sued how bad they copied stuff

[@gbdeck200]

It definitely is but one can still like it

[@shanethemainscott3290]

Ikillyou Last As someone who played and loved both last of us and god of war 2018 I can definitely tell you that Keaton is not Joel in a kratos costume and please don’t disrespect either one of those amazing characters like that again

[@pencilswordfish]

When you brought up Doom2016 in this video, incidentally Doom Eternal feels more like a classic GOW game than the new one. Old GoW and Eternal = platforming, unashamed badassery, and amazing combat loop.

[@whenallelsfails21]

Where in old how do you use platforming during fights lol? Also old gow has a block that stops any fucking attack. Pretty fucking mindless if you ask me.

[@necrosteel5013]

Tyler O'Quinn did you miss the beginning of the video.I think it was apparent from the game footage.

[@thelordelric8424]

@@whenallelsfails21 blocking in old God of War doesn't stop every attack. There are heavy blows that can break though it, as well as grab attacks.

[@realamericannegro977]

Yep

[@punani_slayer4209]

If you want platforming go play Mario or something. Don't let nostalgia cloud your vision

[@zimy0812]

"The old game made me feel like I am Kratos. This one just makes like I'm controlling him." Exactly!!! I had the exact same thought. The old game made you feel like you had the power of a god that you could unleash upon your enemy in whatever way you wanted. This one makes me feel like I'm just playing as a god on a set rale.

[@consentwastaken1]

really makes you feel like kratos - ign

[@muittyishere]

Same here man.I wish they remaster the old god of war

[@consentwastaken1]

@@muittyishere did they not

[@consentwastaken1]

@d nasty it doesnt lmao

[@draco_1876]

d nasty y’all niggas just want something to complain about

[@sicilianmammalian]

Im glad to see im not the only one who hasnt been impressed by the two new god of war

[@ghost7685]

Someone who actually played the games. Most people throw a tantrum and never even try them.

[@eggsbenedict2251]

Yes, they call themselves games journalists. 😆

[@Gunplabro]

You neglected to mention chains of olympus which has one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the entire series.

[@WillCipher]

Actually he mentions how the best scenes are the ones referring what happened in the old games which included the blade of chaos scene

[@mr.rodgers9891]

That FANTASTIC scene in elysium was powerful stuff. Forgoing the relationship he could have had with his child to save humanity... only to kill them all anyway. That's classic greek tragedy stuff right there.

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

That scene is mostly hard, well it would be hard either way, because as the player you HAVE to push her away. Not many games give me feels but that moment does.

[@Gunplabro]

It takes all the Carnage you feel when mashing the circle button to kill normal enemies and uses a meat tenderizer to mash your soul.

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

@@Gunplabro Forcing your daughter away hit me far more than anything with that stupid boy did. I mean this tortured soul having to force away the one thing he wants who wants to be with him away is heartbreaking.

[@aaronbaron6468]

The kid is the anime side character but shouts like an anime protagonist

[@Snavels]

Villain: "I will now use my SUPER ATTACK!" Kid: "DAD! HE'S GOING TO USE HIS SUPER ATTACK!"

[@rickshs7613]

More like Harry Potter shouting spells non stop

[@kmartbruh622]

Like dragon ball z

[@kmartbruh622]

@@harrisonbetker2271 my nigga you good?

[@kmartbruh622]

@@harrisonbetker2271 its anime

[@thechadcruzaider7864]

They turned GoW into a casual friendly movie game.

[@zaadus112]

ok. cry about it.

[@thechadcruzaider7864]

@@zaadus112 Facts aren't for everyone I guess 😁

[@norddorian5791]

​@@zaadus112says some ®€t@®d€d furry 🤮

[@jacobbreitha4299]

@@thechadcruzaider7864the original gow games are casual friendly movie games cry abt it

[@adamiadamiadami]

​@@jacobbreitha4299If you play on easy difficulties (normal and below) that's correct. If you play on average (hard) and up it's not. And you'll see just how much better those games were than the new casual movie slop.

[@KignDididi]

I love this game, I really do. I get why you don't like it but aside from tedious climbing and camera issues, I didn't have any issues with your problems. However, I also loved the older games. And I absolutely can't STAND people using GoW 2018 as a means of shitting on the older games. For combat, you already talked in detail how amazing the combat is in the older games in the beginning of the video. The most infuriating "argument" however is for the story, where people say how older games are "boring" or "dumb" while the new one is so much more "deep", "mature" and "serious". The single most interesting thing about GoW 2018 is that the main character is Kratos, the same person who single-handedly destroyed Greece and killed the entire Greek pantheon. The same Kratos who was the protagonist of those older, "dumb, button-mashing gore fest". If this game had nothing to do with Kratos or GoW in general, it would have been just "Last of Us meets Norse Mythology", the game. A disservice to the stories of the older games is a disservice to Kratos' character and this game's story as well. thank you for attending my TED talk

[@Lunk42]

@SHEHARYAR KHAN for fucking real I played through chains of Olympus multiple times and that scene with calliope almost brought me to tears every time I saw it. To see people act like kratos was some emotionless robot all up until 2018 infuriates me to no end. Like they clearly have no idea what they're talking about so why don't they just keep their traps shut?

[@JayfroC]

It's the worst case of bandwagoning I've ever seen. The irony is that the original game was applauded by its storytelling and character work back in the day, and the sequels only expanded on it. But when GoW 2018 was released, everyone was like "nah, the story was never good and Kratos was never a good character". Dudes can't simply praise the new game; they have to talk shit about the original saga in order to further their narrative. It's hive mentality at its finest.

[@Joeindimension]

Just played through the Originals for the first time, they are Boring and Dumb. I played all on Hard for the Story. You literally use Square, square, triangle all other comboes are worthless.

[@feedthemeat543f]

The old games are what make this games story as interesting as it is honestly. It's interesting to see how much kratos has changed over the years. This game would suffer so much without the older games as a foundation

[@Joeindimension]

@SHEHARYAR KHAN the other combos can be easily broken by enemies, they leave you open. Have you ever played on the harder difficulties? Im a complete noob to these games. But i beat them on Hard. It was brutally hard for me of course.

[@ningen112]

"How God of war was Ruined" laughs in Ninja Gaiden Yaiba

[@Healthandwellnessp90]

I forgot that abomination exists

[@XenojinHayabusa615]

Ryu deserved better... 😭

[@f10pped36]

I can still never forgive them for what they done to him

[@zaser1264]

Ninja Gaiden still has the small chance of a comeback; OG God of War doesn't. Not really a good parallel to make considering that when Team Ninja wanted to make a game different in style from NG, they just created a new IP (something that Sony did not have the confidence to do). And despite the fact that Ryu is a bland character, he wasn't cucked and made into something he's not with zero character development.

[@f10pped36]

@@zaser1264 yeah my big problem with Kratos was that his development was done off screen. It would've been nice to see him turn into dad Kratos

[@nearmart7208]

Comparing the fighting system in the new GoW to the old ones feels like opposite of Devil May Cry 5 compared to 1,3 and 4. DMCV accepted their past and present, improved on it. Showed maturity, learning with it's past - knowing what's good, improving on what's bad or letting some things go. That's true progress and developement. Games aren't supposed to cater to the masses. They're supposed to have a identity, which is what most games fail nowadays.

[@BoogeyMan154]

Hey consistency is a good policy a good chunk of the time, but personally I’m not opposed to developers trying new things with their ips. If I don’t like it I don’t like it. But I’d rather people try new things and fail than have the same game repackaged for 2 decades. I think you need a variety of approaches for a good gaming market.

[@madara992]

Sorry to tell you but games have to cater to the masses this game tried going to another direction and they nailed it which is rare nowadays but having the identity created plus pleasing the players is difficult on the sole basis that whatever sells sells have you notice that games like Cod And nba 2k or even IPhones and Battlefield have been doing? They have copy pasted the same things with a bunch new stuff but same platform to stand on because it sells it’s about business some games have politically statements to please the masses to control the pr relations But this title has shown being both is possible hence why it’s so critically acclaimed and great praises from critics and players

[@TheAustin007powers]

@@madara992 shame it destroyed its combat to do it

[@spimpsmacker6422]

@@madara992 So in other words, just because it isn't outright mediocre means it has good design?

[@aagh8714]

tf DMC1 and 2's combat system were completely scrapped in 5, 3 mostly did it too but at least it kind of kept the weird RE/onimusha camera

[@TheMountainDemon]

Thank you for this. I have LOVED all of the original GOW games, even the PSP ones. I played about 10 mins of the 2018 and just said, "nope." Then turned it off. I knew right away it was not for me. I can see why others would enjoy the new two games, but the soul of what it used to be is gone completely.

[@cHoppigLemOns-bn3el]

What? just play an hour at least,

[@pokahman236]

​@@cHoppigLemOns-bn3elIt gets worse the more you play

[@cHoppigLemOns-bn3el]

I mean its your opinion and i cant argue that. But if im not Mistaken Cory Barlog who directed Gow (2018) really had to convince Sony to make another God of war, and have a good reason to do so. So there was almost No chance we were getting another God of war Game thats exactly like 1,2, or 3, at least for now. And i fully disagree with the soul being Gone this Game was clearly made with a ton of passion. @@loerzo8710

[@raiden8063]

That is what happens when you don't even play the game. No soul? Yeah, you would know because you played it, right?

[@delko000]

I endured a couple hours and finished it on youtube lol. What a bore

[@shooterkid23]

I don’t agree but I respect your opinion man, I’m gonna sub because this is solid content.

[@mr.rousseau.4655]

I miss the violence of the other god of war games.

[@jj-vd6ls]

Although I also think god of war was in some way changedor "ruined", it still has a place in my heart

[@whirligig_saw]

@@mr.rousseau.4655 i Hope the sequel is going to feel a bit more like the original , i mean now that they established the relation with the various characters i hope they make the next game a bit more action packed and especially with more enemies and at least 4 weapons

[@shooterkid23]

Rogue Rogue it ain’t that deep bro, he had a solid video. I like the game a lot, I don’t need to defend anything :)

[@shooterkid23]

Rogue Rogue I guess bro 🤣, hope you have a nice day

[@matthewbradow]

"I'm not opposed to a total reinvention of a series." *Proceeds to complain about every way that they reinvented the series.*

[@squidleprechaun2751]

Yeah... They are different kinds of games, and are both good in different aspects, I prefer the new one, but i can see why some people prefer the old ones. This guy doesn't have any patience, so he doesn't like it. He doesn't know how to look at the new game.

[@dekotarose8594]

Squid Leprechaun Because it's not even really God of War no more bud. It's just a Last of Us clone. 🤪🤪🤪

[@squidleprechaun2751]

@@dekotarose8594 The Last Of us clone, lmao... I have played through TLOU countless of hours and I absolutely love that game, maybe even more than GOW. And I can say that GOW is not a TLOU clone. I really hope i didn't waste this much time typing, and your comment was a joke... If it was then have a great day, and if it wasn't, you should really play GOW4 it's amazing!

[@naxergss2625]

@@squidleprechaun2751 it is though tlou is trash

[@squidleprechaun2751]

@@naxergss2625 TLOU ain't trash, you should definitely try it, I know it may seem overrated but everything people say about it is true.

[@Ava6581]

It's interesting that he never mentions God of War: Ascension. That game's failure was the impatience for all of God of War 4s massive changes.

[@brianm9235]

True

[@sssgaming612]

game&online were fun and cool, it was just that people were expecting the story to move forward, where did Kratos go after gow3? how is he still alive? we already had chains of olympus, so why another

[@asuraart285]

@@sssgaming612 that's the actual reason of ascension's failure

[@surferOS101]

Ascension failed because it came after God of war 3. Going from killing the biggest gods in the Greek pantheon to sisters of fate ripoffs was pretty lame. If it came out before 3 it would have fared better

[@asuraart285]

@@surferOS101 but to honest furies were more menacing than sister of fates

[@phenomgaming3245]

The biggest issue is that they are focusing on the story loop and not on enjoyable gameplay. Quick-time cutscenes are cool but it felt like most of god of war 2018 was an intermission between those high-quality cutscenes. You spend most of the game killing indistinguishable meat mobs and solving basic puzzles to get to the next part until you get to the end of the game with one boss fight that matters, and its very good as a climax, overshadowing that you had to do a boring grind to get there

[@hexa412]

Though I see contradictions, I respectfully disagree. I don't think God of War is RUINED because of 1 new popular game. I think that's just blowing it out of proportion. The game is different from the original trilogy (plus the prequels and Ascension), but thinking that this ruins all of that is just childlike.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

It certainly ruins the potential for an actual GOW game being made in the future.

[@LukeSparrow221]

@@miguelbranquinho7235 Meh, GoW had its run with 3 amazing games. The quality wqs already going down with all the spin-offs after/in between. You wouldn't have gotten your proper sequel either way.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

@@LukeSparrow221 I wasnt talking about a sequel I was talking about a game. Why make a sequel but not a follow up of the mechanics that made Gow God of War

[@i_am_dementia9926]

@@miguelbranquinho7235because it not a sequel. It's a reboot. REBOOT. A soft one.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

@@i_am_dementia9926 it follows the story of the previous games. Its a God of War game isnt it? Why Change everything about the series and still call it God Of War?

[@DustyLamp]

It's a whole new game, only connection to GoW is kratos and his past. They really could have wrote up another Norse character instead of relying on the drama from the older games, but they wanted the brand recognition. I respect that you don't like it as much as the og games, I miss the good hack and slashes too.

[@robinanwaldt]

What do you mean with "They wanted the brand recognition."? This game was imagined and designed as a God of War sequel, not just a game set in Norse Mythology.

[@DustyLamp]

@@robinanwaldt they wanted to attatch the familiarity of a long established franchise to the title. I get that the game was "imagined as a new direction" for the franchise, but my point is you could replace kratos with angry old norse god #6 and you'd have to change very little. Meanwhile GoW classic gameplay has effectively been consumed for this game. I enjoy them both, and we could have had both.

[@kevinz2738]

@@DustyLamp do you actually think that it would be the same if it was other character than Kratos? I mean, what a better way than connect with a characters horrible and violent past when we are actually the ones who went through it and know what he went through. There is clearly a huge connection with the game being of Krato's redemption or facing the future after all he did. It difitively wouldnt be the same with any other character.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

Yeah, the entire redemption arc works *because* it's Kratos and we know about all the fucked up shit he's done and why he feels the way he does about gods. If you just threw in some random, "angry old norse god #6" you'd have none of that.

[@JayfroC]

My problem is that Kratos should've stayed dead at the end of GoW III. In my book, that would've been the perfect conclusion to his arc.

[@JackHagar]

I get that I’m late to this but from what I’ve been picking up from this channels videos, Mr. Under the Mayo really enjoys fast paced games that focus on gameplay rather than cinematic experiences. With that in mind, I can see the argument for GOW 2018 “ruining” the franchise since the old games fell under that category while this one does not, however I do not think this is a bad game whatsoever. There’s obviously flaws but for those who enjoy this style of game like myself, I loved the experience.

[@SAMSARALIVEEEEEE]

It’s a good stand alone game and i can appreciate it for what it is, but as a God of war sequel, it sucks.

[@TheKaffeekatze]

That's why it's not really considered a sequel by its devs, even though it totally is in terms of story... for the most part. It's a reboot in all forms except for its premise, and even then, the setting and the main character evolved into something else. Like a comment elsewhere said, GOW 2018 is less about BEING Kratos and more about CONTROLLING Kratos. You're experiencing his story, rather than living it. I personally love fast paced games, but I enjoyed 2018 a lot more than the old ones for reasons I'm still not really sure about. With that said, old GOW had a great story with lots of deep plot points. People who say GOW 2018 was revolutionary for the series in terms of how profound it aren't seeing the rest of the series for what it is. The gameplay itself was also very monotonous, and though it did its job and I enjoyed it, there was so much more they could have done. Part of me feels like GOW 2018 could have worked well as some kind of Netflix series or something, because it's very clearly more interested in beautiful environments and an interesting story. Tl;dr, GOW 2018 is a reboot in all forms except its basic premise. Let's hope Ragnarok gives us the best of both worlds. Cheers!

[@danielshults5243]

Quite agree with you. Mayo seems to hate it simply because it's different... But I personally did not feel the need for another God Of War built on the same old formula... we already have a half dozen+ of them. They're great games, but I'm more than happy with a reinvention of the series.

[@HunterForHire422]

@@danielshults5243 If you watched the video you would know he doesn't hate the game. Hes played it multiple times.

[@fishnutz5196]

Its just a shame cause Sony makes all their first party exclusives as these slower stroy games. They all start to feel the same theres no varity

[@faville]

Good video. I have played the original GoW and GoW3 and even though I stuck to Normal difficulty and still barely survived I had a lot of fun. It’s great to hear why that combat was so deep. Even though I was never good at it, I could tell it was much more than a button masher like I had read in some opinions (mostly because I wasn’t getting achievements and scores that reflected good play-similar to statues in Bayonetta). I just started GoW 2018 and only by the second large troll after meeting the first dwarf I was feeling like a lot of things were “off” and I was getting very little satisfaction out of playing, and already dreading restarting fights after dying (repeatedly) for what I considered cheap reasons, which isn’t a good sign. I also got no joy or excitement looking at the impending skill/item tree. Thanks for clearing up why I am not enjoying this title.

[@theunchartedwolf8996]

Isn't every game a button mashing game because your always pressing buttons 🤯

[@matthewcrane5294]

No?

[@W00JDA]

you can beat every game by random button mashing, if you're patient enough

[@NienNienNien]

It isn't just about button mashing it's about getting the combos. The things i miss about the older games is that kratos would have like magic the new game just feels like power up that comes from items or from the axe. Another thing hate about the new game is that the enemy executions feel repetitive and no variation in them like in the older games.

[@matthewcrane5294]

It’s been 12 days since I’ve seen it and I still can’t believe this man said this💀somebody tell this idiot “mashing” isn’t the same as “pressing”

[@W00JDA]

@@matthewcrane5294 dude, ffs , he just wanted to make a joke...

[@chancegreenlee9600]

Not liking a video game is respectable, but proceeding to tell people that their feelings about a game is invalid goes against the whole point of entertainment and artistry. Great video despite disagreeing with most of your point. The point I agree with most is lack of variety though particularly regarding the trolls but I believe they will do much better in the sequel

[@eliaslamsa6541]

I think it wouldn't have so much controversy if the points were presented with some maturity instead of just bashing the combat system when you don't really understand it. Kind of ironic considering he criticized people for the same thing in doom eternal-

[@hockeater]

@@eliaslamsa6541 Thing is though? He beat the game on the highest difficulty. He broke it so thoroughly that it got boring. That's not lack of understanding. That's seeing the problem laid out before you, and responding that it was too easily solved.

[@rhysmag6723]

Johnny Tsunami I want like your comment but...

[@raulrojas9253]

@@eliaslamsa6541 You missed the point The combat is plain BORING and not even as deepth as the previous God of war games, THATS THE ISSUE and the critique. I kinda agree but i find devil may cry and Ninja gaiden combat system and bayonetta superior to god of war anyway so. Beside this game was Boring only reason one beat it was because the prettty graphics. Thats it, it has all the awful Modern game design even FF 7 remake has them and is awful. Lucky for FF 7 remake unlike god of war the boss fights feel like something.

[@eliaslamsa6541]

@@raulrojas9253 Well that's pretty subjective. I enjoyed the combat alot probably because i came from dark souls but you may like the hack and slash better. People like different things and you are a perfect example of my point. The combat is different not just objectively worse. You may not like it but other people do.

[@ntomatas1]

hard truths were told, dislikes were inevitable. Good review, sir.

[@ΚωνσταντίνοςΚαραμούζης-ζ8ζ]

Ωπα?!

[@ntomatas1]

@@ΚωνσταντίνοςΚαραμούζης-ζ8ζ ναι, είμαι ο original Κρατος

[@ΚωνσταντίνοςΚαραμούζης-ζ8ζ]

Για το γεγονός πως πέτυχα Έλληνα πήγαινε το ωπα,αλλα σωστό αυτό που λες κι εσύ

[@MultiAlpha001]

he may have talked about some important points on the gameplay loop of god of war (2018) that i agree with but most of the video he’s just complaining and nitpicking stuff about the game. it was really grating to hear.

[@branflakescereal4174]

@@MultiAlpha001 if it was grating to hear him complain about the same stuff, maybe the game should have made that same stuff more interesting. Mind you, I’ve never played this and this is my only experience with the game

[@Willywoo1975]

So much said in this video that certified I wasn't going crazy. Under the mayo hit every single point that made the game legendary way back and what has made it thrash today. Absolutely love this video because it borders on one aspect on what's wrong with video games today

[@underthemayo]

I've got several other videos on GOW too. Check out "Puzzles Matter".

[@loonowolf2160]

Dude you can't make the same god of war on 2018 like old ones it would be boring u guys need to move and accept 2018-2022-24 gow games as they are

[@Willywoo1975]

Nah. Its unacceptable. Theyshould have leftvit alone if they nothing to top the old ones. Actionisnt everythingin GOW.The storywas far better even by todays standards.@@loonowolf2160

[@dantheplanner]

​@@loonowolf2160That's like telling chess players to start playing cards. So shut⬆️

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

To be fair regarding the lack of variety in visual enemy design: The Skandinavians didn't have as much imagination as the Greek did. At least in arbitrarily mashing real animals including humans together.

[@someguy9970]

There are a ton of creatures in Norse mythology lol wtf? Do you only watch Marvel movies and think the World Serpent and Fenris are the only creatures in Norse Mythology?

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

@@someguy9970 Of course there are a ton of creatures, but most of them are merely upscaled - if at all - versions of rather normal animals. If you compare them to the tons of hybrids in Greek mythology, it does not give much room for weird enemy design. Nidhöggr, Fafnir, Sleipnir, Garm... they are all not that much out there as the Chimaera and Medusa.

[@lzi9452]

Der Stabilator it really isn’t an excuse, you’re lying to yourself if you genuinely think that’s the reason the developers didn’t expand the enemy variety

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

@@lzi9452 "Lying to yourself"... wow. I don't care so much about the game, okay? Didn't even play it, just thought that'd be something to consider.

[@lzi9452]

Der Stabilator I didn’t mean that as a personal attack, it’s just so blatantly obvious that the developers were just being lazy

[@brodsworth4966]

Sad to see so many people just disliked this without even watching

[@Bucchigirii]

Right it's sad if they did there minds would change

[@calebbrowning8918]

@@OXY187 nah im ps4 player and GOD OF WAR SUCKS

[@eivor5453]

I bet many people who play the games never read comics and graphic novels which are much more interesting than the games

[@Soblev]

@@eivor5453 wait there are God of War comics?!

[@eivor5453]

@@Soblev yes

[@calebjordan6511]

Someone should introduce this guy to the guy who loved the Marauders in Doom Eternal so they can duke it out.

[@Foecone]

You do realise they're the same person right?

[@calebjordan6511]

@@Foecone You do realize that's the joke right?

[@Foecone]

Thank god

[@samadhoosen6014]

@@Foecone whoosh

[@Foecone]

@@samadhoosen6014 reddit funny

[@luisconquistador2375]

After Ragnarok, this video has aged like fine wine.

[@underthemayo]

Just you wait. New video goes up soon.

[@dannypatrick9361]

@@underthemayo Good I cant wait! Sometimes I feel I'm the only one with good taste in game design.

[@ernestofelix6734]

@@underthemayo UFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT VIDEO MAN! Pleasee make a video about ragnacok, I really want to hear your thoughts about it

[@monstersinthecity]

Give me god of war trashes most of the moveset .

[@monstersinthecity]

@@ernestofelix6734 story is great but the gameplay suffers in the same way

[@kerbe3]

One thing I love about Zeus' lighting spell in God of War 1, is that the spell is used at the end of the game in a cut scene. I can't remember any game really doing that. Spells you get during the game only exist while playing the game and not in the cut scenes [except here of course]

[@JulioCruz261]

Outside of the GOW series, Kingdom Hearts does this sometimes. In some cutscenes Donald uses Curaga and Sora uses his Shooting Star keyblade's transformation during the Big Hero 6 world. It's super cool to see the abilities the characters get used in cutscenes

[@khaorix2667]

Witcher does it occasionally too.

[@balanc-joy9187]

That stuck out to me too. I kinda wish they'd do that more...

[@garrettwilliams3816]

There are a ton of games that do this. Final fantasy does this stuff all the time as an example.

[@Pantheonslayer]

I believe bioshock did this as well

[@misterwayne6169]

I love the new GoW! But i agree with you. The camera angle made everything feel epic and the boss fights were more grand and brutal in the original games. I grew up with the originals so they always have a special place in my heart but i respect and appreciate the new GoW. My only hope for ragnorak is that we have better boss fights and more gore.

[@BananaLuigi]

He is right about alot of things, as in the motivation to fight enemies. I would have definitely wanted to have a combo meter to see how high I can go. But to do that, i have to play really well. Or even the r3 stun attacks, where at the end of a brutal finish. You're rewarded with maybe bonus xp since orbs are gone. But even with these gone, it never removed the enjoyment, it just would be a nice edition.

[@aden2461]

Based on what they showed in the trailers I am certain ragnarok wont be different. Omg that camera angle is just terrible....

[@thedon6572]

@@aden2461 camera angle is fine, that no cut camera is godlike

[@jmurray1110]

Only if the god in question is Koalemos

[@knigfotlets9870]

Man, I love all God of War games including the latest and I've never heard somebody say that the old games had a bad story or the new one gives the franchise finally a good story, but that may be because I don't like to read comments. But your video seems to be solely based around shitting on this game and every aspect of it, I get that from a mechanical standpoint it doesn't remotely feel like the previous GoW games (at least until you obtain certain weapons) but the game doesn't try to be one of the previous games which it reflects with all of it elements. I also find your double bias kind of frustrating, you glorify the auto-blocking mechanics of the previous games while you hate on the auto-jump. You also speak of tactical gameplay in your videos but you hate the camera where you can't see enemies that are behind you and that there are indicators, you know that you can turn off those indicators right? You could simply turn them off and think of a way to get enemies off of your back, which to me sounds pretty tactical, but you are busy hating on the camera. Not to mention that the camera angle in the old games was often a pain in the ass especially when it shifted mid-fight. You beg for a universal block but also a tactical experience, which doesn't really make sense (to me at least). The premise is simple, don't let enemies get your back, if you do it simply means you don't pay attention to your surroundings which you can do even with an over the shoulder camera. Claiming to move the camera with the right stick like in a shooter is tedious is also kinda awkward to me, it just means you aren't accustomed to the controls. It's like saying Dark Souls and other Souls like games have "shooter control schemes" as well, I don't think so no. I get that you didn't get a typical God of War experience with this game and this is the whole point of your video, but shitting on every aspect that is different from previous games makes it look like you are too conservative to be open to the idea that a game can change and that drastic changes to a franchise don't have to be bad. There are a lot of games where changing the basics of the gameplay ruined the franchise, but I don't think God of War is one of them. After three titles I really welcomed the change, it's fresh and new and the plot is told in a great way and the gameplay feels modern and the combat is polished and challenging on the higher difficulties, the RPG elements might be out of place for some people but I like them and they aren't too deep that you would have to "look at the gear stats for half an hour", it becomes clear pretty quickly which armor sets serve a specific purpose, there is no need to compare stats. While I respect your opinion, I don't think it's justified to shit on every aspect of the game because you don't like it. I'm not saying you have to like it, but I think you should look at stuff from a few different angles than just your own when criticizing something, otherwise it looks like you are simply rambling about the game not meeting your own expectations.

[@rlharveson]

Well said. I literally have nothing else to say but that.

[@toastedskilletslol4250]

You are actually a mouth breather, if you think this game is anything more then a waste of money.

[@rlharveson]

​@@toastedskilletslol4250 Okay fancy word man, explain to me how this game is a "Waste of money" as you put it.

[@toastedskilletslol4250]

@@rlharveson you are paying for an interactive movie. If that ruffles your jimmies then go for it. I enjoy a game for the gameplay, not really the art/story. Like you said people are entitled to there opinion, and that's what mine is.

[@rlharveson]

@@toastedskilletslol4250 Then you won't mind me sharing my opinion, if you PLAYED the the other games in the past, the story would probably seem a lot more nice and wholesome, and the game itself already has good combat, as well as (spoilers here) the blades of chaos later on. There are the Valkyrie's, the fire realm challenges and much more, so if you don't like the story, then that's fine, but that doesn't mean the game is bad just because YOU don't like it's story.

[@Lidemann92]

Totally agree. Old games were 100x times better. Gameplay wise and story wise .

[@dustinrichardson7273]

I understand your point of view and actually find it cool seeing someone with a more negative view, but this is still one of my favorite games of all time and I am a huge god of war fan loving every game for many reasons.

[@dustinrichardson7273]

Mr. Obunga that makes no sense he has a negative view of the game because he does not enjoy the game I have a positive view because I enjoy the game

[@dustinrichardson7273]

Mr. Obunga I already explained that

[@dustinrichardson7273]

Mr. Obunga ok

[@darkforce2559]

@Mr. Obunga He is negative means that de doesn't like the game and positive means he likes the game. Do it seem like positive reaction to the game?

[@aurielayala9683]

@Mr. Obunga .

[@boom__boom4325]

This whole game is just Kratos and Boy go to White Castle.

[@naytny5819]

you not wrong

[@tranium67]

Evolution Vegeta the new game isnt as good as the others doesnt feel the same yk

[@tranium67]

Evolution Vegeta yeh its still good

[@tranium67]

Evolution Vegeta i never finished a single game i was about 4 so i was pretty bad tbh😂

[@solidSnake4580]

Harold and Kumar spending the whole movie going to White Castle was more entertaining than the GOW4 game.

[@samtj3349]

God of War ps4 was my first god of war game and I thought it was ok like 7 out 10. It had many slow and unchallenging moments like the platforming and climbing and boat parts. As for the combat it was more emphasis on what items and power ups you have over actual skills. Anyway I was interested in Kratos back story so I played the original trilogy (God Of War 1-3) and I liked them way way more then God of war ps4. I agree with everything you said and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t have nestolga for the original games and God of War ps4 was my first game in the series.

[@STRING3R]

The new god of war just has really bland level design and boring enemy encounters. There's nothing memorable about it. I can't even remember any of the music tbh.

[@spardasquadspqr3535]

gow 1 looking now is soso compared to gow2 but boi when gow1 came out it was something not seen anywhere. Quicktime events begun with gow1. Epic enemies. Few bosses but each one great. Story. Gow 1 was one of best ps2 games at a time

[@mikeehrmantraut1899]

@@STRING3R I agree the soundtrack was so forgettable at the end at the end of the day if anyone beat the game and ask themselves would you rather beat it again nah i wouldn’t have to suffer through this again.

[@fatbroccoli8]

How 4 combat is so limited, the puzzles are shit it’s kind strange why they’re even there, it was a chore to finish.. I platted GoW 3 and loved doing it but GoW 4 was hard to even finish the main story as it was so boring... played on hard and it wasn’t challenging it just takes longer. It’s so mindless I really don’t get how anyone can say it’s a 9/10 maybe people who value graphics over anything else

[@spardasquadspqr3535]

@@fatbroccoli8 lol. I remember playing it and after alfheim i just took 6 months brake from this game. It is such a fucking chore!!!......

[@MK-fz6il]

I may not agree with everything here, but it is infuriating that in light of the new version of God of War, so many people belittle and oversimplify the old games. I do enjoy the new ones, but even so, they're nothing compared to the originals. Not in story, not in gameplay.

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

Bad take, lol.

[@redskull378]

@@InfiniteDeckhand Good take,actually.

[@EritSanguine]

That is subject to opinion. You can not say that the new ones are nothing compared to the old ones, that's outright disrespectful. And this is coming from someone who loves and played all the old games.

[@kpvisual89]

Yea. The god of war we played When we were kids is the real god of war. It’s bloody brutal fast and it was an absolute thrill… the new one has daddy issues lol wtf happened? Marketing and Sales happened. Just like how most movies comin out these days are shit

[@chadgrimes252]

​@@kpvisual89Preach 💯this is the truth that these new GOW fans are in denial about

[@MyNameisGon]

Finally. Someone who actually played the original games when criticizing GOW 4.

[@KennyLunacy]

Are there really people who are critical towards it without playing any past games?

[@WillCipher]

@@frogglen6350 to be fair nothing changed all you do in 2018 is spam R1 and sometimes L1

[@WillCipher]

@@frogglen6350 there is also this kind of stuff in the older games mainly in 3 again nothing changed

[@WillCipher]

@@frogglen6350 they did not removed the hammer because it was "Clunky and useless" or the lance for the same reason they simplify removed them so they could add new and interesting stuff

[@WillCipher]

@@frogglen6350 you're just missing the point of the argument i'm not talking about either how usefull weapons are or how they feel i am just saying that in both games you just spam to win

[@rustle495]

Funny how Capcom did this too - release a sequel to an old franchise. But DMC5 somehow actually retained most of the postulates and upsides of it's long-running action combat tradition. Of course, nobody wants to play V, but at least you only play him a limited amount of times, and with the Special edition you can also play as THE STORM MAN.

[@randomthoughttrains]

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APROOOOOOOOACHING

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

V Is the eye candy atraction to girls, look on yt every gamer girl drools with V, its the standard of contemporary "pretty boy", so un that regard they make a good work while mantaining the OGs in high standard

[@maxentirunos]

V is just counter intuitive to usual DMC gameplay, where its always going close and personal, V is crowd control and distance attack. Once you manage that, he is quite funny to play. And well, Who don't imagine vergil completely shiting on enemies and mocking them without even being there, and if one get close enough, just send them sprawling with one twirl of a cane.

[@rtkay123]

Hold up I love playing as V lol

[@Ghettojaku]

@@rtkay123 i love em all. V has a Underrated theme song tbh

[@danyjoms13]

42:25 baldur gets there after kratos, and kratos knows that vengeance leads to nothing good so he tries to stop baldur from doing his mistake and besides kratos wants to protect freya because she help them in their quest.

[@davitsk1]

God of War 3 is still the best god of war game!

[@lazar14]

They made Kratos' personality and fighting style anemic "in keeping with the times". All those sex mini-games and "press O to rip head off" manifestations of toxic masculinity just had to go. Kratos had to evolve as a person, as a father, a husband. Next game: Kratos defaults on his mortgage and has a kidney stone - press X to pee blood!

[@thetruej7872]

I miss OG Kratos so much

[@Maggerama]

@@thetruej7872 Same.

[@Takaroku.]

So they made him the average reddit? Or an angry jole? Nice

[@balsabozovic4510]

@FeruLay Conden same, best games have "toxic male" protagonists

[@lukasisafk1097]

i’m disappointed that he never hearted this comment, it’s gold

[@bisexualichigo4227]

“The little Puñeta” Ah, a man who knows his spanish.

[@Corvaric]

Filipino also has that

[@irasac1]

Same in portuguese

[@RayAnimations..]

@@Corvaric good thing i dont hear anyone hear use it

[@Shiketaum]

@@irasac1 Será que e a mesma coisa memo? Pq o som e igual kkkkk

[@Puppy_Puppington]

I mean there was lots of Spanish version gameplay of the originals :3

[@robroskey6515]

So I did enjoy gow 2018 but I'm not gonna lie, while playing it I was constantly missing the old style gameplay and I do agree with a lot of your points. If I could choose I would choose that they go back to the old style, not only does Sony already have enough 3rd person over the shoulder games but i think the newness is going to wear off for the next game and unless its next level good it's not going to be as highly praised. The old combat is legitimately much more fun and appealing for a longer time. To this day I could still play the old games they were so addictive and satisfying and I much prefer the mythology on them than the new game.

[@tuanha5264]

Gow 3 was awesome.

[@nachos1162]

I feel like if in ragnarok they added a jump button with jump combos and stuff, maybe pull the camera out a bit and add a combo meter that rewards you as pointed out in the video it would add a lot to the game. Also make there be a damage floor because my God if you don't go max strength asap you do no fucking damage and it makes combat such a annoyance. I'm excited to see what they build upon with ragnarok. I liked 2018 enough to want to play the sequel but I really wish we just got a more traditional style.

[@tuanha5264]

@@nachos1162 They arn't going to do the traditional style because they want the game to feel like the last of us, which was a major success. However, by doing that, you've changed the DNA of GOW.

[@nachos1162]

@@tuanha5264 yeah I just really really want to jump again. Any game that doesn't let me jump at will just feels wrong. I don't think I've ever played a game that doesn't let me jump at will and not been like "ugh why can't I jump??" because I just like jumping when there's down time. That's like 70% of God of war so I ended up just attacking the air every time I had to wait for something to happen lol

[@Nuuk_]

Yeah but gow was getting stale with the same kind of combat for like what 7 games and that reflected with god of war ascension which I think came out before the newest one and sold the least so if it had the same combat of the others it wouldn’t be good for the story and it wouldn’t be nearly as fun or refreshing

[@cvzanikos1]

Veteran here of the original games and I’ve played them several times over the years. as soon as I saw the new one, I was immediately turned off and decided it’s not for me. Picked it up at a discount though and right now laying around recovering after ACL surgery been playing games just finished Stellar Blade(epic masterpiece) and now decided to finally see what God of war 4 has to offer. Exactly what I thought. Pretty game story looks interesting but I’ll never know. The gameplay is so bad. I can’t continue it. Those enemies with the purple health bar is like wandering into the graveyard in the beginning of dark souls. Anyone that says maybe you’re not good enough is full of Shite. They’re just putting up with the game because of the graphics and spamming the same attacks over and over again. No fun in God of war four. For me, the story ends at three.

[@mertcan5635]

oh wow, an action rpg combat is different from a second rate hack and slash game. the gameplay must be so bad

[@juanrocha251]

Bro oh my god this made me download God Of War and play it on PCSX2. I missed this game so damn much

[@Ghst-hl8fl]

It’s called Dumbing down your game to appeal to a casual audience. Something the industry weirdly praises.

[@Solidude]

They should've just take inspiration from yakuza's combat camera perspective. When traveling it's third person but when in combat it zooms out and there's more visual clarity on where the enemies are.

[@FeelingPoyChina]

this is a legit question to anyone who thinks the new GOW games are better than the OLD games. how exactly did god of war grew and evolved into a better game? it used to be deep, philosophical, nihilist, full of love, full of terror, existentialist, passionate, s*exy, alluring now its just "last of us with boy" with RYSE SON OF ROME copypasted gameplay mechanics. its boring, generic, uneventful, mind numbing krap that only appeals to NPC BOTS who see the world through "he has a son. I also has a son, me love this game now" pov kratos used to be such a deep, rich and complex character he wanted the voices of his wife and kid to stop screaming in his head and he tried to get revenge for their death.. which he did.. yet the screaming kept coming because even though ares made him mad with anger he was still the one who killeed them with his hands he then tried to off himself and realized thats impossible cause hades controls the "afterlife" he realized that the only way for him to get any peace and quiet is to literally kill all the gods on olympus so that he can finally move on to the ACTUAL AFTER LIFE.. the one that isn't governed by petty gods or titans why dont you tell me the story of the new god of war? he is old, he has a boy, he fights random people and grunts.. wow.. much game.. very character.. and I haven't even mentioned the flawless gameplay of the old trilogy.

[@inunique85]

Exactly, they sold Kratos down the river just so they could grab all the money that these new fetuses will give them. Another great story sold out for money, and of course the newer generations are going to help with that.

[@almogz9486]

This is an absolute strawman of GOW 2018 and a bit of a strawman of the old one. His murder of hades and of many of the other gods wasnt a well thought out logical decision. Ares angered him because of everything he made kratos do and basically enslaving him so he killed him. Zeus betrays him so he hates him the other olympians side with zeus so he feels forced to kill them to get revenge on zeus. Yeah it a bit more complex than that but the way you summerized 2018 shows that you either cant analayze media or are deliberately lying. In 2018 kratos is in hiding he is Afraid of his past and deals with it by hiding it. He unwittingly transfers this fear to his son. This makes him physically ill. Kratos does not realize this and is still unwilling to give his son all the tools to survive the dangers ahead because he is afraid of his son becoming like he was. This crashes down when his son becomes comatose because of this. Kratos then must face his past and allow his son to know who he was. There are a lot more complexities but you dont seem willing to analyze them seriously

[@passingRakz954]

So you tell a whole bunch of his character from the old games but fail to mention more than a sentence from the new one. Lame

[@nastynabz3029]

I get you. Fewer epic bossfights, less enemy variety, more grounded combat and only one stun kill animation for each enemy type. Despite this, god of war 2018 is still a great game but one cant help but miss the epic bossfights. Also, I hate myself for not finishing the first 2 as I had a 360 last gen

[@doolenny9458]

I think the bosses are still great sure there are some duds and to many refights with that troll but like sigrun and Baldur and freja are awesome

[@HunterForHire422]

gaming those are the only ones I remember.

[@TruTrae]

If the new god of war can improve the bosses and enemies and add more depth to the combat while keeping the cinematic aspect to gow 2018 I think we have a goty on our hands.

[@HunterForHire422]

@@TruTrae true but since everyone said the game was pretty much perfect they probably won't change much

[@TruTrae]

Slappy 422 I think it’s probably because there wasn’t many big games in 2018. But I don’t think they won’t improve anything as the first god of war was perfect in many people’s eyes and they improved on it with the second one.

[@hyper0505]

those who said that old GOW was just button mashing game probably didn't ever tried to beat Theseus in GOW 2 with Titan Mode

[@UmDevoto]

The psp gow shows that

[@MNSH]

They cant get pass over the narrow wooden logs you have to carefully move over for ex in GOW 1 after first hydra encounter or at Hades area where you have to walk over them with spinning blades rotating around

[@hyper0505]

@@MNSH man... the blade spinning while you climbing is really hard I have to die multiple times and waste so many hours on that stage.. GOW 1 sure gives a lot of challenge and puzzles

[@MNSH]

@@hyper0505 yea dude, and what this game offers?? here press O to jump automatically hold up to climb

[@hyper0505]

@@MNSH 🤣🤣💀

[@Capconian]

"This little puñeta" You get a sub for this.

[@davidmotola1723]

That part made me LOL.

[@daantenham8482]

@Forsaken Pumpkin Under the Under the mayo: makes excellent point with really good arguments You: he is a crybaby critic Nice.

[@DustyLamp]

@Forsaken Pumpkin obviously didn't watch the whole video. He was actually pretty measured in the conclusion.

[@DylanJo123]

@Forsaken Pumpkin Aww, did watching someone criticize your precious game scare you? Lol

[@fariszakimy]

@Forsaken Pumpkin seems like you can't take in valid points when other people bash on the things you like

[@sniddler9114]

When I heard God of War was coming to steam, I was actually hoping for the originals instead of this

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

Emulate them

[@edge1247]

​@@triggeredbeetle5370 One day Dammit one day 😭😭

[@ShadowbannedAccount]

@@triggeredbeetle5370 Emulation for anything other than Nintendo handhelds is dead. Porting to PC is so much easier and faster. Legitimate buyers can buy the game, and pirates will rejoice to know that former PS games ported to PC will, most of the time, be exclusive to Epic Games Store, meaning they're easier to pirate.

[@kawaiyan]

Just finished God of War 2 again after 13 years 😂, and I still love the game, still remember some to the secrets and puzzles. This game franchise will always be close to my heart. Haven't played yet GOW 2018, cause I'm waiting for the PS4 to be cheaper when PS 5 releases, cause Im poor hahahaha...

[@TopTechTrendsX]

Same here, finally fell behind an entire generation of gaming. Hello cheap console and games

[@epicbiohacks1495]

Yup felt that

[@unshackledmind7863]

I am poor too but have owned a PS4 for awhile now and can say believe me you're not missing out on much. There hasn't been a whole lot of PS4 games that I can highly recommend, and I haven't even played GOW 4 yet even though I love the first 3. Something about it just doesn't seem appealing to me...

[@keviune]

@@unshackledmind7863 Just play it. It's a good game, the small minority of people dislike it because of their own reasons, overall the common opinion is, that it's good.

[@coolmaan507]

41:40 'nothing kratos can do anything about' Me: *Gets visions of Kratos ripping Helioses head off*

[@franciscospesia8069]

"This little puñetas" LMAO I loved that Omg when did I get so many likes? epic

[@macruz8503]

@Francisco: Is this nigha phillipino bruh?

[@Ma1q444]

I have no idea how someone can enjoy this game. The combat is mind numbingly boring, you fight the same draugr enemies most of the game, the boss fights are horrible, you fight the same reskin troll 4 times. Their is no enemy variety. The story is not good this is what you call the illusion good graphics give, just because the game has good graphics and slow and has a father and son somehow it’s a masterpiece. The game main goal is to spread your wife ashes, yet I have no motivation to do so because I have no idea who she is so I do not care. The og games were 100% better that’s what made them so good not the combat. I didn’t particular love the combat of the original games so I have no bias towards this game but GOW4 combat is atrocious, I shouldn’t even have to list of all the reasons why because it is self explanatory. I remember I first got this game when it came out I was so bored I could not finish it, it has no redeeming qualities. A lot of people praise the graphics while yes they are good the artistic side of the game is awful as you see the same palette of colors the whole game. I’m tired of games just becoming walking simulators, while the graphics evolved modern games completely forget what make games, games. AAA gaming industry is lost and in despair this was the main game that showed that too me and how the casuals feed the devs. Please support your local indie or smaller company games instead of these horrible companies who push out the same shit every year and force workers to push agendas in their games. My opinion of this game has nothing to do with bias, I remember playing ac odyssey and finding it a decent fun but repetitive and this was in covid so i had a lot of time. I had already played ac 3 and 4 as a kid but never played the trilogy so I went and bought the ezio trilogy and I ac 2 and brotherhood, I thought it was boring and tedious and outdated but then I had a revelation and I replayed the games and loved it. The reason I changed. My opinion was because I stopped looking at as a chore to play and a game and started taking it slow and appreciating everything, odyssey almost ruined the old games for me because the big change it made my brain adapt to same mediocre boring slash and looter cycle of odyssey. Now I think odyssey is awful and the og games the best. The reason I just went into that tangent is to show how modern games influence your perception of older games, for example if you are playing on 60fps games for awhile and then switch to a 30fps you will automatically see the difference but then you will get used to it and adapt. Gamers nowadays get blinded by the modern gaming industry graphics and fidelity they forget what makes a game good, if I can watch a games cutscenes on KZbin and enjoy it more then playing the game something is wrong. My 2 favorite games of this generation’s are: kingdom come deliverance(2018) Hitman 3 and the trilogy They both share one common quality, and that is no hand holding now in hitman you have to change some settings to prevent that but it’s there, we need free will back in gaming don’t give me a game over screen because I didn’t follow your rules. I’m done.

[@Papa_Straight]

People these days just like mediocre crap bro. It also doesn't help games are mostly focusing on gay shit than anything else

[@Ma1q444]

@@Papa_Straight facts but nothing can be done sadly, that’s why I’m not supporting western companies anymore.

[@vainojari]

i don't care if the game has good graphics or has movie like cutscenes or stories i'll play a game if it's good. for example the original resident evil 4 is one of my favourite games of all time and i was 4 years old when it came out so i don't like it because of nostalgia. i don't care that it looks outdated because the combat is so much fun and the good old cheesy capcom dialogue makes the game hilarious at times even if it has a horror setting

[@delko000]

Yes, i didnt play odyssey but i agree on almost all your points. My breaking point with modern gaming was precisely god of war 2018

[@maniac4658]

​@@vainojarii like the older games too. After finishing a whole bunch of games on my PS3 I was thinking of upgrading to PS4/PS5 but seeing the gaming industry nowadays, bought myself a modded PS2 and I'm having a hell of a time playing RE 4, silent hill, OG god of war, GTA San Andreas, Devil may cry etc. on it :)

[@Lugbzurg]

46:59 A surprise, to be sure... but a welcome one. Also, to add to your points as to why the game got so much praise, this was straight after we'd spent a tedious amount of time seeing publishers and journalists rambling on and on about how multiplayer-only titles are the future and single-player is dead, and we should just get over it, move on, and get with the program. Then this game came swinging in, boasting a massive, single-player experience in full defiance of those declarations, being so pro-consumer like that. Surely, the lack of predatory microtransactions helped with that. If this game came out in 2020, especially around the same time as Doom Eternal, I don't think it'd be getting nearly as much praise.

[@Harkins1721]

I disagree. I believe it would score the exact same.

[@jub8951]

Except doom eternal didn't get nearly as much praise

[@aerogenin7144]

@@jub8951 Of course Doom Eternal is not going to please adventure clicker fans.

[@jub8951]

@@aerogenin7144 nope in fact people still prefer doom 2016 so it couldn't even please fps fans either

[@aerogenin7144]

@@jub8951 People who? Filthy casuals who prefer the dumbed down combat of GoW4? Hmmm... Not that hard to guess.

[@viptaiga]

I remember my dad saying he found the newest GOW the worse one. He was so annoyed by the kid he didnt even finish it 😂

[@mrpuss2519]

I could ve said " even more annoying than me? Immpossible."

[@goro_majima98]

I've never heard someone so offended by cutting a tree. WHy Am I CutTinG a TReE? Ridiculous 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WillCipher]

I'm not against seeing kratos cutting a tree but does you spamming R1 add something to the experience?

[@goro_majima98]

@@WillCipher it makes you feel like you are helping

[@WillCipher]

@@goro_majima98 i prefer watching a cutscene instead of spamming a button for no reason but guess you're right in a way

[@someguy9970]

Kratos can break stone pillars and shit, why the fuck does he have to try so hard to cut down a small tree? Dumb opening.

[@goro_majima98]

@@someguy9970 and Geralt is a witcher but if he falls from much than 5' he dies, Lara Croft instead can fall from 9999' and she stays alive. Games are weird 😂

[@uchiha013itachi]

Holy fuck... I've just had a realization: It's not that we grew out of games, it's just that the games have become less inventive

[@petermj1098]

The biggest disappointment of the new games is getting rid of QTE kills. It’s like Mortal Kombat getting rid of fatalities

[@jorssu13]

I would argue that GoW wasn't ruined, it was reimagined. It's a different game for a different era.

[@jacobcantrell82]

An degrade in locations, enemy types and combat is the definition of ruining, not reimagining.

[@ea0731]

@@jacobcantrell82 It’s objectively reimagined, but for people like you it’s subjectively ruined (which is fine, you can’t please everyone 🤷‍♂️).

[@ea0731]

@@jacobcantrell82 That’s not how opinions work… I’m pretty sure “bad” games don’t win GOTY

[@cartoonvideos5]

After how bad Ascension was, I could see why they had to change the formula.

[@therandomguy2441]

@@cartoonvideos5 well then after how bad dmc was they should have changed the formula,....right? Dude, ascension was bad for its reasons, but that doesn't mean they needed to change the entire formula and make it even worse. Look at dmc 5, how do you think that could have been possible if they changed the entire formula just bcos dmc1 was bad? They could tweak those issues and improve on it just like how gow 2 was improved, and how gow 3 was improved. But clearly, they changed the formula in order to mimic lou, bcos they were trying to attract movie lovers with baseless melodrama instead of proper story, character development, gameplay and good combat.

[@stevenbarnes6577]

America’s response to Japan. Hey Dante, meet our too angry to die Dad, Kratos!

[@Lugbzurg]

@Confusing Zark He's also not a dad. That description was for Kratos.

[@mr.rodgers9891]

I like how Devil May Cry and Dante's Inferno both have similar combat, and both have protagonists named Dante.

[@Lugbzurg]

@@mr.rodgers9891 Well, they both share the same inspiration... more or less. The videogame, Dante's Inferno, is based on a story of the same name (sometimes referred to as simply "Inferno") written waaaaay back in the *14th century.* Though, it wasn't an action story. That's just part of the game's adaptation. (It's actually part of a trilogy known as "The Divine Comedy".) You got your former crusader named "Dante", and his (guardian?) angel named "Vergil". Dante and Vergil from the Devil May Cry series were named after the main characters of this LITERALLY-ancient classic!

[@mr.rodgers9891]

@@Lugbzurg I love The Devine Comedy. Inferno, Purgatorio, Paradisio. Told through metaphor and is ultimately a cautionary tale that redefined the idea of Hell itself. All of that aside, the game is pretty underrated. And fun. If not for the fact it was basically just a God Of War game. Down to the basic actions and combat. I don't think that's necessarily bad though.

[@Lugbzurg]

@@mr.rodgers9891 Ohhhh, ok! I thought it sounded like you hadn't heard of the original story before. I mean, I didn't even realize Who Framed Rodger Rabbit? was based on a novel for years. (Weird thing to compare it to, but here we go.) I managed to snag a discount copy of the Divine Edition. And yeah, it's pretty underrated. It's easily got one of the most (if not THE most) realized representations I've ever seen of Hell as a setting. They knocked that out of the park. I also appreciate how it isn't afraid to go unapologetically-Biblical. (I mean... what do you think demons and Hell are tied to in the first place?) Far too many videogames that have you fighting demons just shy away from that, like they're afraid to cause offense or something, often being as vague as possible. (Even Devil May Cry, though I really appreciated the one moment at the end of DMC4 when Nero addresses God himself when he finally comes to terms with his arm.) Fighting demons without The Devil is like fighting nazis without Hitler. Even Doom eventually started sheepishly backing away in Doom Eternal, citing the "demons" as just people's mutated corpses instead of evil ex-angel spirits who were literally fired. So, for all intents and purposes, Painkiller has more guts than Doom, more or less. You know... I really outta check out that tie-in movie. I also wonder how the presumably-unrelated "Barlowe's Inferno" compares to this.

[@Kryptix0III]

The biggest takeaway I've gotten from this video is that the newer Doom games like Doom Eternal have copied a lot from the old God of War games

[@niks660097]

WTF are talking about!!?, Doom eternal is an old school arena fps shooter and GOW 4 is a 3rd person melee game, they are literally as far apart as possible except for being action games..

[@PrivateJoker0119]

sometimes I really think youtube needs a laugh react

[@indrajithak47]

@@niks660097 you need to put the bong aside, he said old gow games, that doesn't include the new one.

[@tornado100able]

I agree with you, they have many similarities (gameplay)

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

Inspired, not copied. They are literally completely different generas ?

[@ryanwilson5623]

I actually loved "God of Bore" until i decided to replayOG - GOW, then I remembered why I loved the franchise in the first place. I enjoyed the story more than anything else, but the story has ALWAYS been good. I don't like this stance of "character progression" to justify Kratos' castration - he's supposed to be an anti-hero. I do yearn for the Kratos of old, but I fear those days have long passed and we are now stuck with a Kratos mired with (as said by another famous gaming critic) "Jiminy cockthroat" gaming elements, ultimately killing the identity of what made Kratos and GOW so great.

[@sul_9999]

Saying kratos is an anti hero is a wild take, especially post god of war 2. There he has stopped caring for others aside from himself and went on killing gods, knowing it doomed all of humanity. Kratos by the end of his story has become the villian, he took brothers, mothers, fathers. He became a selfish god. 2018 isnt supposed to show that side of kratos. Thats a kratos from 1000 years in the future, he had realized all the horrors and atrocities he had made. He doesnt even seek atonment or forgivness. All he wants is just seeing his son grow and not fail him as he failed his daughter, this very much falls in line with og GOW games kratos imo

[@benjamin83065]

You’re right about the first games , they are amazing and the story was epic, but a change of gameplay and story is not bad. I think it gives God of War a new face and that’s good by me.

[@MulettoMotorsports]

The story was fantastic. The combat felt like a chore, I don't know if they were going for "Kratos is old and slower" but it only shows when using the Leviathan axe. He swings the chaos blades like nothing.

[@shawnanthxny6091]

What did you rate tlou2

[@KosmataBradva]

That's not really a new face. Bare bones combo move set with block, dodge, some spells that function as single or aoe nuke/cc and some support ranged attack (arrows) and general philosophy of punching 'till it dies, is something you find in pretty much any action adventure game ever. Almost anything modern has better combat, from DMC/Bayo to Souls/clones. Look at a dead games like the two Mordors, both of them offer 10 times the combat GoW4 does. And not like GoW4's gameplay loop offers something interesting outside of combat. If story is the highlight, might as well watch cutscenes on youtube for free, why is it even a game then? They should have kept whatever dept GoW1-3 had, evolved it and slowed it down to reflect the pace of the story. In Sands of Time trilogy you can manipulate the enemies to the extend where you can play without melee attacks if you wish to. Dark Messiah too. Smashing mobs with basic attacks and cooldowns isn't a new face, it's literally downgrade from shit we had 15 years ago.

[@soupisfornoobs4081]

@@KosmataBradva that's a lot of words for "I don't like the combat". Got it, not your thing, not valid enough reason to not make it a game. Keeping the style from the first three? Yeah, because it's easy to produce so many fantastic games one after the other, and they could most certainly transfer that style to a Scandinavian setting, and keep it work within the story. It really is that easy, isn't it? Just say you're gonna keep the original style, and boom! The game's made! Oh and don't worry about Kratos hiding his past from Atreus, and just ignore all those years of Kratos learning to manage his rage (the very thing that fueled the original trilogy's combat). And of course, let's not forget to address the beautiful survivor mentality of "they did it X years ago, how can they not do it now?!". I need not say anything about it, it's just stupid

[@KosmataBradva]

@@soupisfornoobs4081 Yeah lmao, why have books about physics, it's just particles moving fast looool. Cool that i barely mention the story, themes and setup, but you find a way to state how they have something to do with combat. Want a nordic slower paced combat that would fit the game and feel unique in the ganre? Weakpoints and enemy manipulation. GoW3 had enemy manipulation with ramming enemies. This could have been evolved. Many arenas feature ledges, but throwing off enemies is barely touched upon. You can freeze enemies, so why not parts of them, negating some of their moveset? Spells that do something fuctional, outside of aoe nuking 3 dudes, because you can't be asked to L1 them to death? I mentioned Mordors, since combat speed there doesn't affect the mechanics. You can slow it down to 50% and get the same dept. GoW4 could have had something similar, enemies with hard strengths and weaknesses and you having an arsenal to experiment and exploit that. Enviorment means nothing to GoW4's combat, you get the same experience in textureless arena. You know, fuck Capcom, they evolved DMC so hard over the years, it's unevolvable at this point. Fuck ID too, who cares if they evolved Doom lightyears away from the competition, while Serious Sam is still a horde shooter. Just keep the same shit, it works. Then wonder why GoWA got stale and failed. When it doubt, downgrade, call it new, the audience will love it. Go back to your walking simulators, clown.

[@jacoslabbert5928]

I love the story because it seems Kratos grew up with me - less angry and more of a parent - becoming a parent changes the way you see the world and the things you notice and care about. Your critique of the game is valid but it does not seem to take into account that people grow and change. Kratos is not the angry vengeful God of war he once was - he's now a father trying to live a peaceful life that seems elusive at best and impossible at worst.

[@AONTrappy]

Sure, except that there is a giant gap missing in that build up. Where is the lore/history when he traveled throughout the realms, met Faye and had a kid. Where is the demonstration of intense reflection with Atreus besides a few interjections? Where are the interactions with Nordic beings that showed he is or has changed? This will need a prequel/sequel before this game even makes sense. Theres too little world building in this game thus far in this Nordic saga.

[@jacoslabbert5928]

@@AONTrappy all fair points - a bit premature I think since we're only 50% through the Norse series. There's a comic named God of War Fallen God which apparently shows travel between the pantheons. As for the questions about how Kratos and Faye met... We really don't have that info on Lysandra either but apparently it was also in a comic book. Either way, I think it's too early to have all our burning questions answered - so ready for Ragnarok.

[@ericdickert9795]

I'll openly admit that i loved the new god of war game. It felt wonderful to see kratos become a different kind of man. A god who chose to live as a man, who wanted to spare his son the devastation and grief that he felt as a mortal bound to the gods, and evem as a god (still a victim of the machinations of the others in his pantheon). I was amazed by his journey with atreus, and what he wished to teach his son. But, I do have to agree with the lack of depth to the combat system when compared to the previous trilogy. I also agree with the lack of enemy variety. I feel the story and the game was fun and rewarding enough for the game to be fun. But i have to agree with you as well. There again, i feel like this story and game were not only meant to set up this universe switch, but to show that kratos is a changed man after his violent journey through the Greek pantheon. That he wishes to become a better man and a better god. I, however, hope they will further explore the nine realms and the norse pantheon and stories. But also return to its roots, that kratos will reawaken his ferocity and ambition, fightimg with a sense of righteousness and purpose.

[@oddgbmo3036]

It sounds like an unoriginal story that's been made dozens of times before