How God Of War was RUINED - Part 1

#GodOfWar #PS4
For the one year anniversary of the new God Of War, take a journey with me as we look at why the original series is so beloved, and how the new game tries it's hardest to ruin all of it.
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[@underthemayo]

Part 2 is now available!: "WHY God Of War was Ruined" kzbin.info/www/bejne/apDUmqyGqtR2apo Here me talk about GOW 2018 with Kaptain Kuba right here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eofVlJaOfaqkkKM Original post: So, I made this video over a year ago. Never knowing what to expect. I'm considering a followup, now my channel has unexpectedly gotten a lot more traffic. I appreciate the support, and I know a lot of people disagree with my take on the game. I understand that. I never expected mass approval from attacking one of the most critically acclaimed games ever. This video was more about providing an outlet for people that I knew felt the way I did about it. I ask that you put your feelings about the game aside, and listen to what I'm trying to say here. You don't have to agree. You can still say you love the game and that's fine. But there is another perspective on the design choices they made, and that's what this is for. If you've enjoyed this video, check out my latest content. And maybe you'll find something else you like. Thanks. - Mayo

[@palindinX]

You let your feelings be known. I know exactly how you feel when one of your long running beloved franchise gets a "reboot" and everyone else all of sudden forgets how good the original was, even going as far as downplaying the original just to make the newer entry seem like it some kind Grandiose product. I knew there was something about the new God Of War game that just didn't compel me to jump on the "Greatest game of all time" bandwagon, and after stumbling upon your video by chance and hearing your personal experiences and opinions of both the originals and new GOW, did I come to realise that I would've had the exact same feelings as you did. Good video, bro. You definitely made a lot of people mad, but I appreciate your honest perspective.

[@andrewrogers3067]

A follow up would be awesome! Speak your feelings, you got my sub from that.

[@Lucasio1209]

I absolutely loved this game, but I respect your bravery to criticize it.

[@underthemayo]

@@Lucasio1209 thanks man. i respect your love the game too!

[@Lucasio1209]

@@underthemayo Holy Shit! Didn't expect a response, keep up the great work man!

[@gabrielmorris7131]

Kratos: Wants revenge for his wife and child. Also kratos: Sex minigame for those red orbs

[@Artvader_AF]

I don't think you're familiar with Greek Mythology.

[@gabrielmorris7131]

@@Artvader_AF it's a joke. Calm down 🤡

[@fadlinugraha347]

@@gabrielmorris7131 virgin

[@cosmic_gate476]

I barely remember it, thanks for bringing that up

[@Samantas5855]

you get the spartan kick

[@ijustworkhere1008]

Who would win: Kratos, son of Zeus, king of the Gods, who singlehandedly slew every God of Greece, several titans, and several mythological creatures and heroes. A man who died and came back from hell twice, who defied fate itself, and whose fights would level landscapes and even whole countries Or A draugr with a purple health bar

[@flamingmanure]

The unnecessary and badly designed rpg mechanics and balancing is one of the reasons i didnt like this game tbh.

[@MetalGearDavid57]

Lol this argument is as stupid as the Kratos struggling to open a chest when he could squat a literal statue argument.

[@joenathan8059]

It was the dark souls skeleton, better luck next time

[@DoomRater]

This game has boat cancelling. Your argument is invalid.

[@HSE_VO]

Lmao you can literally say this about any game... Kratos could also be beaten by small enemies in harder difficulties in previous games. Are you dumb?

[@Jrockk999]

The worst part about the camera is that Santa Monica bragged about the new engine being able to handle 150 enemies compared to the 50 that GoW3 could handle. But with the camera change, the amount of focus is narrowed and there are less enemies on the screen compared to older games.

[@leonpaelinck]

LMAO when do you ever fight more than five enemies in this game?

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

"we can handle 150 enemies on screen!" "Okay do it" "No"

[@easonzhang1326]

wtf，why did they said that since they didnt do anything like that in the game

[@chadgrimes252]

This is a classic example of scam marketing making it seem like the new GOW is some kind of upgrade and improvement when in reality its a massive downgrade compared to the old GOW games

[@FuzFuz]

Side cameras are fucking awful.

[@rabbadidi7385]

The original God of war was the whole reason I saved up and bought a ps2. I played a bit at a friend's place and immediately knew I wanted to finish it

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

What're your thoughts on this one?

[@Berd-Wasted.]

He has not responded. It is possible he is "dead".

[@SadMoribund]

@@Berd-Wasted. the virus got em

[@user-ly2ll5od1r]

so? The new god of war 2018 was the whole reason I saved up and bought a ps4. I played a bit at a friend's place and immediately knew I wanted to finish it. And I can bet this same story happened with 2018 god of war more. Seeing how the new god of war outsold the entire franchise combined. It's just a much more fun game to play than the old ones. Hack and slash was never a genre that was "good". It gets repetitive after 3 minutes. It's a one trick pony, you did your light and heavy attack you basically experienced the entire game. ah yes, combos, the combos that do as much damage as a normal light attack, but by the time you finish the button combination, you'd be able to dish out even more damage if you just mashed light attack the entire time. truly one of the genres of all time. Oh and don't forget the saturday morning cartoon story with 2 dimensional characters.

[@MiniKodjo]

I never owned a ps2 but when GoW came out i instantly bought the game and ask a friend to lend his ps2 to me for a week or two...

[@mctankies]

Cool! They gave that guy from Mortal Kombat 9 his own game.

[@jam5287]

I hope you’re a troll lol

[@brucenatelee]

@@jam5287 Pretty weak joke, if not to just remind us of his PS exclusivity with the character.

[@nicolaemihaila6036]

It's ok dude. It was a good joke

[@latviandragon2718]

😂😂😂

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

What are you talking about? This guy is from SOUL Calibur for PSP.

[@TheQuatum]

Refreshing to see someone ACTUALLY acknowledge God of War ALWAYS had a good story. Most reviewers are acting like the new one is the only GOW with a good story

[@rsmith8113]

Well, normies have never played the originals ofc they have no idea about the story. Just look at all those youtubers, none of them actually played or liked the originals only a couple of them.

[@Birthday888]

I think the problem is less that God of War doesn't have a good story, and more like Kratos' story from the original games is over. What, is he going to get angry at a bunch of gods from another pantheon and kill them in a bloodthirsty rage *again*? That would just be lazy. Plus, as awesome as old Kratos is, he isn't really a character you can sympathize with, or if you can, it's only really with the feeling of rage and anger, which does leave his character feeling a bit one note. Of course, that's the entire point and it's an awesome one note, that doesn't change the fact that it's still just one note.

[@yvonnewilson2242]

@@Birthday888 Dude, he wasn't one-note AT ALL. Even the nuances of his humanity were shown all through the series. People claim Kratos as one-note to justify calling the current GOW a masterpiece. The new GOW wouldn't even EXIST without Kratos' "one-note" character arc. The biggest mistake was replacing TC Carson as Kratos to begin with. I feel he would've at least captured the changed Kratos better than the actor who voices him now.

[@depressedcheems9961]

@Johnn Doe Who in this comment chain said the new story is bad?

[@diousthomas8878]

Genocidal Ape Hey, about the voice actor. I feel like the new one shows Kratos as a much more humble and appreciating person funny enough. I can’t see TC Carson pulling off Kratos I guess technically speaking thanking Brok or the truth with Atreus that he is a god. I love TC Carson but the new actor is just something else man. And whenever he found out Atreus was sick those words “I did this to him?” You can just feel that he is remembering his past life and his remembrance of his daughter and maybe even Pandora. But god damn was TC Carson amazing at his acting.

[@ProxyDoug]

Barely starting, but props for giving the combat of the original games it's due respect as it tends to be criticized by people who barely scratched the surface of what could be done with it.

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

Saying its just "button mashing" says more about the gamer than the game

[@YEY0806]

@ZinxTheSlayer exactly, and it pissess me off that one can just judge an entire series with absolutely no willingness to experience them in order to understand

[@connorwheatley5640]

@@ZinxTheSlayer for sure. it's a lot like criticizing the combat of devil may cry while sticking to basic combos.

[@ZinxTheSlayer]

@@connorwheatley5640 exactly.

[@asundelgun3487]

I have heard people call it a button masher which is idiotic, however you cannot tell me that the game isn't square square triangle for the win

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

I seriously respect you for responding to the comments all these years later. Rare to find a creator who actually fights for his viewpoints

[@ulfberht4431]

Yes, fighting for viewpoints that come off as rather biased gatekeeping of the original and talking down to even the most rational of detractors. VEEEEERY WELL RESPECTED my hairy ass.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@ulfberht4431 Go shave it then, keyboard warrior.

[@jeffmiller5982]

lmao, he hasn't replied to you yet. @@juanjoyaborja.3054

[@ulfberht4431]

@@juanjoyaborja.3054 Yes, keep using your pointless buzzwords. Does my opinion greatly disturb you or offend you in anyway? Has my nasty words upset your fanboyism towards your senpai! Aww, good.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@ulfberht4431 Boohoo. Seethe some more, scumbag.

[@TovenDo.O.Video-]

I can get behind a reviewer who gives his honest opinion instead of trying to please everyone, even if I don't agree with them.

[@eliaslamsa6541]

i think he just presents his points immaturely and bashes the game when he doesn't understand the combat system fully.

[@cezarstefanseghjucan]

@@eliaslamsa6541 He is right about the older games being much better. This is a pleb-friendly artsy-fartsy shitshow.

[@LudlowSRK]

The combat system wasn’t hard to adapt to, by any standard. Just because someone can’t adapt doesn’t mean it’s a bad game, at all.

[@lisupei6042]

Sony fanboys are the most pathetic and zealotic human beings in the industry, easily tricked by pretty visual and presentation and all kinds of surface level factors into rationalizing the game without any amount of critical thinking

[@bignewsmorgans93]

Johnny Tsunami He doesn’t understand the combat system fully because he doesn’t want to take the time to learn it. He went into this game with the mindset of wanting to hate it because it wasn’t like the old GOW games.

[@extrasalt9053]

"Kratos jumping would look too silly, this game is supposed to be serious" Atreus: WHATEVER

[@rsmith8113]

Sekiro wanna have a word with that person 😄

[@Dacho_Shaki]

We're talking about a demigod who can lift the entire fucking temple by himself. 😂 Goddammit, Cory.

[@eainjones9509]

What this says to me is "We don't know how to animate, so we're scrapping an entire aspect of the series."

[@ryantony7743]

His name is BOI

[@damienlockhart6288]

@@eainjones9509 I doubt you could do anything close to this so don’t talk shit about a company “not being able to animate” you cry baby

[@xtata]

I just finished God of War 2018 and it feels like the combat is nerfed. Combat was way better in the trilogy.

[@scottbranam8306]

did you get to the blades of chaos oh I just spilled the beans

[@joeyhuebner10]

@@scottbranam8306- He said he finished the game, how could he have not gotten to the blades of chaos?

[@xUseTheForks]

Yer nah

[@bearieroblox6451]

Lack of aerial combat in the newer games really sucks. I liked how agile kratos was.

[@abbottvisr1234]

that’s why i hate playing as kratos and liked playing as atreus in ragnacock.

[@dirtyfighters7751]

Gotta agree. Not only did it allow for aerial moves and fun tricks to pull off, but it also helped for evasion, which would’ve been very useful in the newer games given how common it is for enemies to combo and trap you in corners where they just finish you off instantly.

[@user-vg8tv1hp9c]

@@dirtyfighters7751that and enemies are weird. They’re not so hard but when you’re low on health they all gang up and attack perfectly in succession. They randomly get hard out of nowhere and others they’re dumb bots.

[@blackharpy7468]

Kratos got old.

[@mike.mentzer_enjoyer]

Now that you mention how agile Kratos was, what I like about that the most is how badass Kratos is when he climbs walls and ceilings with no climbing equipment, no fear, just his pure blades and strength to stab them into the walls and also combat while doing those

[@StrunDoNhor]

GamingBrit summed up this game's atrocious RPG systems perfectly: "The dude killed the Olympian Pantheon shirtless, and you're telling me I need to level up armor?"

[@westonmuse9634]

Well if you do research you'll find gow 3 and gow 4 take place 100 years apart. He's aged

[@StrunDoNhor]

@@westonmuse9634 I can see where you're coming from; after all, 100 years is a literal lifetime to us. However, Kratos is _a god._ If he can age 100 years and look no more than a decade older than he did in the OG series, I think it's safe to say time doesn't affect him like it affects us. Also, it's worth pointing out that he is still able to recover from wounds near-instantly, Wolverine-style, and is physically strong enough to flip an entire temple upside-down. Regardless of his age, "upgrading armor" is tonally inconsistent with what Kratos is capable of in the game.

[@westonmuse9634]

@24 7 who the hell was talking AB dante. I'm talking AB how he looks wayyy older and has wrinkles and Is also 100 years older. He's still half human. His human side still makes him age quicker than say zeus. I still don't get why the fuck your talking ab dante nobody said that. I've never even played the dmc games so I wouldn't know if he would win or not

[@AkhileshShankar9]

@@StrunDoNhor He is demi-god , half-human, half-god, it's possible for him to age

[@StrunDoNhor]

@@AkhileshShankar9 Well, don't take my word for it then. Cory Barlog (the director of God of War 1, 2 & 4), said Kratos is immortal in an interview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXvVmoWifc-WiNk At around 1:00:05 And like I mentioned above, age is only part of the issue. Kratos is still a physical behemoth of a man. He can Wolverine-heal, but apparently still needs a half-inch of leather to really soak up those hits. I'm still talking about silly it is that Kratos has to buy armor, as part of a larger criticism that the game's RPG systems are half-baked and unnecessary.

[@slashingzordz7998]

“Forget about double jumping i can’t single jump” lmao

[@2_572]

He farts and squeezes his ass for the second jump it totally makes sense.

[@abdousebban8792]

Lol facts 🤣

[@xUseTheForks]

Yer dumb complaint

[@oimickey6110]

I really enjoyed (Norse) God of War on the first playthrough. That was it. With God of War III, I used to love playing that game from start to finish more times than I can count. Your observation of the close-camera during combat is spot on! Ghost of Tsushima has the behind-the-shoulder cam that also zooms out when in combat. Norse God of War could have simply done that. You also make a terrific observation about zooming out during combat would have allowed for more enemies that aren't health sponges. The Greek-era God of War games having weaker enemies in higher numbers makes you, the player, feel like god without feeling OP. I completely also agree with the lack of enemy variety in the Norse GoWs. Overall, solid criticisms and a great video.

[@baileybuckley4796]

It also feels like a cluster and makes kratos feel even more old bc the camera doesn’t really allow for aerial attacks or anything of that nature.

[@alexmichaelraccoonplays8777]

Well, I like both games and I certainly have played god of war 3 more times than god of war 2018, but that's because god of war 3 is a shorter game.

[@StudioMod]

New God Of War is just a reaction to Last Of Us.

[@tonyx2644]

"If all of Olympus will deny me my vengeance, then all of Olympus will die." Best foreshadowing ever.

[@TheRaptorian]

Kratos today, war is not the answer buhuuuee boy boy buhuuu, he is pathetic now.

[@LilGabri94]

@@TheRaptorian he’s just matured and wise, nth wrong with that

[@dylm8689]

@@TheRaptorian Well we've had like 6 games of angry Kratos. The revenge arc is long past it's expiration date.

[@TheRaptorian]

@@dylm8689 Kratos is anger though. He is the ghost of Sparta, the God of War. Well, he was I should say.

[@TheRaptorian]

@@LilGabri94 matured and wise? He changed because director of new gow considered his anger toxic, he isnt wise he speaks of peace but wages war. He could leave, he could lie down and face death, show the boy the price of not fighting back. But he wont, he will keep fighting and warring because that is the answer, if he wants to live if he wants his son to live that is the answer. So is he wise, no. Is he influenced by political views of one dude today and his propaganda, yeah. And his character payed for it.

[@I3rvndon]

"NO JUMP BUTTON!!!!?!?!?!?!?" Legend of Zelda: "First time?"

[@AydarBMSTU]

"JUMP BUTTON?" Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild : "First time?"

[@lucasmckee4059]

Dark Souls: wait that exists?

[@lenarteler4453]

@@lucasmckee4059 dark souls technically has a jump button, it just works differently

[@mullaoslo]

@@AydarBMSTU it's litteraly why u couldn't get into 3d zeldas before botw.. And a huge reason why I love the original gow trilogy over gow ps4.. A jump button i crucial for me to enjoy a action game.. Without it I feel like I'm guided on a path

[@dathunderman4]

@@lenarteler4453 you know what he means tho. On dark souls you can’t get over a 1 foot tall ledge. You can do the sprint + jump thing to get across gaps but you can almost never go anywhere vertically in that game without ladders or steps

[@thechadcruzaider7864]

They turned GoW into a casual friendly movie game.

[@zaadus112]

ok. cry about it.

[@thechadcruzaider7864]

@@zaadus112 Facts aren't for everyone I guess 😁

[@norddorian5791]

​@@zaadus112says some ®€t@®d€d furry 🤮

[@jacobbreitha4299]

@@thechadcruzaider7864the original gow games are casual friendly movie games cry abt it

[@adamiadamiadami]

​@@jacobbreitha4299If you play on easy difficulties (normal and below) that's correct. If you play on average (hard) and up it's not. And you'll see just how much better those games were than the new casual movie slop.

[@Zero-Saber]

"If it wasn't called God of War I wouldn't hate it" my thoughts exactly.

[@inunique85]

Best self-explanatory comment ever in life

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

"Chains of Olympus had an emotional story" *PRESS CIRCLE REPEATEDLY TO ABANDON YOUR DAUGTHER*

[@thewanderingartists]

And it hurt so much 🤕 Kratos was finally happy for a while.

[@perseastheodoropoulos7367]

To save her life. He had to abandon her in order to beat the villains so as she can live in heaven

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

@@perseastheodoropoulos7367 When I was younger, I was a simple child, I saw the square, I tapped that square

[@calvinripley9093]

Emotional*

[@dumitrugonzalez4372]

Thank you

[@Agensahu]

Under The Mayo: GOD OF WAR is RUINED!!!! Atreus: Whatever

[@PowerHouseDream]

lmfao

[@vlad_47]

For real..

[@FlyingShadow11]

fucking boi

[@pepepenasalme9241]

Mayo: TRIGGERED

[@underthemayo]

@Cannon Raborn I'm waiting on that ogre defamation lawsuit

[@rizzmistrz]

God of War is just a game for people who dont like games they just like films. There is nothing challengeing in this game and its mostly just watching, i totally agree with you.

[@justincarloplacido9542]

Maybe play gmgow next time instead of story difficulty lol

[@rizzmistrz]

@@justincarloplacido9542 I don't like playing shitty games twice 👍.

[@cartoonvideos5]

​@polakpl6086 haha nice one

[@Stana999]

Did you play on give me story or something tf are you talking about?

[@rizzmistrz]

@@Stana999 No, I played on normal difficulty (although I did change the game mode to a higher one at the end of the game for the reasons given below) because this mode shows me how hard and fast the game should be in the eyes of the developers, and my problem with the game's difficulty is that that somewhere around the middle, most enemies can be simply killed by swapping and using weapon skills, without any dodging or major tactics. What's more, NONE of the bosses in the main story are demanding due to the quick save system. You died in the second phase, no problem, you won't have to defeat the boss from the beginning. You will immediately enter Phase 2, with all your health and cooldown restored. And I would forget about the rebirth stones, even if you managed to die, you can still be reborn without any problem. This game eliminates virtually every mistake you make. I know that at the highest difficulty level my first objection disappears a bit, although it still raises doubts, the rest of the things I mentioned are true at all difficulty levels. I also know about berserkers, which are actually difficult to defeat, but I'm mainly talking about the main plot, not the content of the end game.

[@liamgoku22]

People who say the original god of war series didn’t have a good story and wasn’t deep obviously have never played it. That’s crazy to me people have been saying that since the new ones have come out

[@neinja66469]

Tbf they don't really have easy access to the older games all u can do is emulate or buy an older console (PS2s aren't hard to find but their lifespan don't last as long and PS3? A physical copy is ur only option since their PSN store is down now) so I can't blame them for a limited perception cuz these guys don't look that deep into games

[@imthethriller]

Or there not really paying attention and see it as "dat gayme wit Blud and bewbs"

[@bruh5073]

@@neinja66469 PSNow exists.

[@neinja66469]

@@bruh5073 kinda sucks tho I wanna keep these games not stream them

[@SuperShortAndSweet]

@@neinja66469 buy gow collection on ps3 has all 3 games? I'm pretty sure its backwards compatible

[@__jevnpaul__]

Under the mayo: god of war is so boring this guy has so much hp Me: *Laughs in zeus’s armor*

[@pickle5074]

*laughs in Cursed Mist build*

[@vlad_47]

Laughs im my mist/valkyrie 150 luck build with all possible Realm Shift abilities.

[@EthanTheDinoNerd]

Me: Laughs at turning the difficulty to give me a story mode.

[@Nightflyermike]

Laughs in confused why were all laughing

[@danialyousaf6456]

@@Nightflyermike laughs in being together with everyone while they're laughing.

[@haunteddreams7856]

This has more in common with avengers then the old god of war 😂

[@aden2461]

AND THE LAST OF US

[@lautairemeiyer3292]

That bit about playing the older games on higher difficulty is on point. Almost every move you do matters and if you let yourself be carried away by doing combos you're gonna get pummeled to death by mobs of enemies. The harder the difficulty the more tactical you need to be when utilizing your arsenal of spells weapons and combos.

[@underthemayo]

It's like everyone just forgot.

[@robertoandrerocatorres7257]

Square square triangle

[@alexisdelangel13]

@@robertoandrerocatorres7257 better than hold R2 to beat the game - executioners cleave.

[@alexisdelangel13]

@Nocturnal Death Nothing requires you to change weapons in 2018 as well. As runic attacks override the the one enemy that forces you to switch (the ice dudes.) Nvm the fact if you do a fresh new game + run it is completely beatable with just the chains, or just the fists. Sure you need atreus as well but he serves the purpose magic and items did in the old. Literally God of War 3 forced you to changed to cestus for certain enemies. God of War 2018 can be beaten on GMGOW by literally holding R2 (executioner's cleave) and nothing else. I've done it. Hold R2 rinse and repeat until the end. That isn't tactical. I'm sure you get the point. The funny thing is I am right. Yes light, light, heavy is an obvious crutch string but it required build up to the reward (The stagger/Knockdown of the heavy), enemy corralling into it and spacing at least. Is it too strong? Sure. Is it suddenly game breaking? No because then you would have to treat executioner's cleave with this same treatment, this myopic view of the combat. (Btw I am pretty sure it even works on most ice enemies still anyway)

[@q-tips9984]

@Nocturnal Death highly doubt that lol loser andy trying to prove smth

[@Sullenify]

So glad that Devil May Cry V stuck to its guns and went full hog wild crazy Japanese action.

[@ollytherev2957]

Queen-Roger so glad god of war stuck to the action and overly violent routes and deepened one of the Elements form the orignal

[@Grim187Grey]

Agreed. If they wanted to change the way the character played, why not just make him a new character? Kinda like Nero? Similar but different.

[@StardustCrusader18]

THIS! DMC 5 is one of my favourite games of all time. I can't imagine how it would be if they did it like God of war (trash)

[@snaggle_tooth6829]

Devil may cry 5 kinda sold out too especially to the western audience. Dante reminds me of like a protagonist in a marvel movie.

[@StardustCrusader18]

@@snaggle_tooth6829 Honestly the writing is better in Dmc4 and especially Dmc3 but Dante is such a boomer now and I love it :)

[@Lindani_Mvano]

Just finished Ragnarok, I miss pre-bearded Kratos 😢 I hate this game

[@robertkeane9393]

Last of us ruined this game. God of war is not god of war anymore.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Gow is truly dead and that’s just sad to me

[@Blaze72sH]

Last of us ruined Sony.

[@SomeBlackGuy]

I think it's important to mention that Kratos did not want forgiveness, but to be stripped of the memories of his sins. They only said they'd forgive him which he understood as they agreed to his wishes. Buuuut we all know how that ended up. Moral of the story is, don't try to pull a fast one on Kratos.

[@thecoconutgum]

Ok

[@angellara7040]

It was more a well technically moment from Athena if I remember correctly

[@vorpalinferno9711]

Thats not the moral of the story. The real moral of the story is how sony ruined the combat system. They did pull as fast one on Kratos. He cant jump anymore.

[@streetsdisciple0014]

@@vorpalinferno9711 and he runs so slow

[@adolfo777nica]

@@thecoconutgum Tracka

[@flynnsfortune6209]

I'm a huge God Of War fan and I loved GOW2018... But I've only ever beat it once... GOW 1 x3, GOW 2 x2, Ascension x2 GOW 3 X 9... I went back to GOW2018 after doing a playthrough of GOW3 and all I thought was... Man this shit is tedious.

[@christopheryanez]

I mean if your trying to kill yourself with another Give Me God of War run then yeah it’ll be tedious lmao

[@andreskattan2197]

Because you can finish the previous God of War games in a weekend. The latest one is on average 40 hours long.

[@ompampassou7034]

@@andreskattan2197 The story is only 20 hours. But if you are talking about 100% completing it and getting the platinum then you are right it does take 40 hours.

[@vishnutheetharappan7074]

GMGOW is super scuffed unless your on new game plus, then it's a lot more balanced (or maybe i'm just bad :/ this was my first soulslike) edit: ik it's not a soulslike c h i l l

[@flynnsfortune6209]

@@vishnutheetharappan7074 nothing like souls really tbh... But yea the enemy's just have shit tonnes of health and deal more damage. the combat gets old especially early on..

[@Ghst-hl8fl]

It’s called Dumbing down your game to appeal to a casual audience. Something the industry weirdly praises.

[@sicilianmammalian]

Im glad to see im not the only one who hasnt been impressed by the two new god of war

[@Gunplabro]

You neglected to mention chains of olympus which has one of the most emotionally powerful scenes in the entire series.

[@WillCipher]

Actually he mentions how the best scenes are the ones referring what happened in the old games which included the blade of chaos scene

[@mr.rodgers9891]

That FANTASTIC scene in elysium was powerful stuff. Forgoing the relationship he could have had with his child to save humanity... only to kill them all anyway. That's classic greek tragedy stuff right there.

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

That scene is mostly hard, well it would be hard either way, because as the player you HAVE to push her away. Not many games give me feels but that moment does.

[@Gunplabro]

It takes all the Carnage you feel when mashing the circle button to kill normal enemies and uses a meat tenderizer to mash your soul.

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

@@Gunplabro Forcing your daughter away hit me far more than anything with that stupid boy did. I mean this tortured soul having to force away the one thing he wants who wants to be with him away is heartbreaking.

[@datboiparsa3430]

I don’t think that the new god of war is disappointing but I do prefer the older ones

[@dongxx]

You don't he does

[@tomharly8026]

@@dongxx ...

[@916MUTE]

It is Kratos is Joel in a kratos costume and the boy is Ellie. Too many similarities couldn’t enjoy gameplay it just made me wanna play TLOU or Dark souls TBH surprised they didn’t get sued how bad they copied stuff

[@gbdeck200]

It definitely is but one can still like it

[@shanethemainscott3290]

Ikillyou Last As someone who played and loved both last of us and god of war 2018 I can definitely tell you that Keaton is not Joel in a kratos costume and please don’t disrespect either one of those amazing characters like that again

[@ApostleDesmund]

God of war went down with the 2018 release. The game felt like another last of us with some movie scenes. They messed up the camera view and the feel of the game. Why do they keep messing up franchises

[@bearieroblox6451]

Story wise chains of Olympus and ghost of Sparta add so much. Making the story go from amazing to incredible

[@shrimpfry880]

GoW1-3: doom but against gods. You are an unstoppable killing machine yet it still has a great story. GoW4: The Last of Us Nordic edition

[@tdenzel101]

Power armor is for pussies......!!!!!!

[@GingerBeard24]

@Molnar Robi God of War 4 is nothing like The Last of Us. It deals with Kratos being wise about his past mistakes,and learning how to control his "Spartan Rage".

[@yourwifesboyfriend8688]

@@GingerBeard24 it's nothing like Gow story wise, but on the gameplay Focus is really similar

[@batmenbeyont7775]

@@GingerBeard24 I don't see how that's a good thing. Isn't it like saying the next Doom game is about the Doomslayer learning from his past killing entire legions of hell and being wiser about his rage against them?

[@GingerBeard24]

@@batmenbeyont7775 Kratos regrets killing (literally) his whole entire family. Killing his wife and daughter by being controlled by Ares, then doing so he wanted to change fate to bring them back to life.

[@hankenburg7581]

It’s nice to see that there aren’t many people in these comments who are butt hurt by this video, I mean they’re still there but there’s not as many, nice to see people repeat others opinions, I mean I fucking love this game but I respect your opinion and the fact you were willing to make this video expressing it,

[@kush6846]

For sure but the original games were a lot more compelling. I like the new one too, but it felt like a naughty dog game, not a god of war game.

[@anneshepard]

This is rarity. If you say something with a smidge of disapproval related to the new game in reddit they'll eat you up

[@anneshepard]

@Chandler Burse well.. you're not wrong, unfortunately. It's just this is new to me since I've never really got close to any of the communities. I was an idiot to think gow community would be more mature than tlou2 fans. I guess it doesn't matter the game, if people consider it a work of art/perfection most won't accept the fact you don't love the things they love as much as they do.

[@anneshepard]

@Chandler Burse @ agreed. I still love the last of us and it is art to me but I didn't lose my shit when my brother didn't liked it as much as I did. He's not a fan of story driven games that doesn't make him stupid or unable to comprehend the story. I don't understand, really don't. It seems to me people aren't just unable to accept things have an end (look at terminator or some other franchise that continued even after was already done) but also incapable of even thinking that maybe the things they like aren't that perfect after All. What's wrong with enjoying things that aren't that good? Just because they like it, it MUST be perfection. No one should dare say otherwise. The thing you said about the developers is just.... I heard they themselves are claiming Kratos is finally deep and god of war matured. Idk what their intentions are but that's just bollocks. Is like nothing is as deep as having a child. Suicide isn't that deep, betrayal, self loathing, hatred, etc. None of that matters as much as parenting? I saw people talking about the old gow games as shallow and weak and they played them. But it's not deep because it doesn't have top notch graphics or several emotional cinematic moments? That's almost as saying "I don't like poems therefore they are shit". Just because you're not captivated the same way you are while reading a book, that doesn't diminishes the importance and meaning of poems. Sorry ended up venting.

[@zerosnake57]

Assassins creed is my favorite series but when someone criticizes me for liking Origins or Odyssey. Or thinking that Assassins creed 2 is kinda bare bones in regards to combat. (I still thoroughly enjoy Ac2)

[@thatsentertainment5602]

I got bored with the God of War remake after 3.5 hours of gaming. The original God of War games were much better.

[@Johgfn123]

REMAKE_?

[@TheRealMakotoYuki675]

Agreed raganrok did it wayyy better

[@delko000]

I stopped gow 2018 midway as i was so bored. Speedran the rest on youtube.

[@jaydendebruyne827]

​@delko000 you're attention span is gone

[@delko000]

@@jaydendebruyne827 your*

[@sniddler9114]

When I heard God of War was coming to steam, I was actually hoping for the originals instead of this

[@triggeredbeetle5370]

Emulate them

[@edge1247]

​@@triggeredbeetle5370 One day Dammit one day 😭😭

[@ShadowbannedAccount]

@@triggeredbeetle5370 Emulation for anything other than Nintendo handhelds is dead. Porting to PC is so much easier and faster. Legitimate buyers can buy the game, and pirates will rejoice to know that former PS games ported to PC will, most of the time, be exclusive to Epic Games Store, meaning they're easier to pirate.

[@WastelandAsshole]

I thought I was the only person on the planet who preferred the older GOW games for the same reasons you mentioned.

[@exoderilos3901]

Nah I loved old ones more too

[@johnleonard9102]

I loved 2018 but God of War 3 is still the peak of the franchise.

[@Rei-bg3rf]

@@johnleonard9102 especially after unplay through all 1&2. The hate we had for those greek gods are immaculate 😭

[@edboy2113]

You are not alone

[@chadgrimes252]

​@@malikp8226This is exactly how i feel

[@Quadruple_curious]

Under the mayo: Complains about Atreus whining Also under the mayo: Whines for 58 minutes

[@underthemayo]

Pretty good one.

[@Nightflyermike]

Gr8 b8 m8. I r8 1/8

[@halion4487]

Under The Mayo glad to see you can take a joke. Major props from me

[@PartStupid]

@@halion4487 - Gotta give credit where credit is due even if you disagree. But yeah sadly some people cannot take jokes or criticism so it is nice to see someone who can (though to be fair with this video he has had time to acclimate over the past year, the real question is was he this cool about it the days directly after he first posted it).

[@nikhilgirard2356]

Under The Mayo shut up.

[@luisconquistador2375]

After Ragnarok, this video has aged like fine wine.

[@underthemayo]

Just you wait. New video goes up soon.

[@dannypatrick9361]

@@underthemayo Good I cant wait! Sometimes I feel I'm the only one with good taste in game design.

[@ernestofelix6734]

@@underthemayo UFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I CANNOT WAIT FOR THAT VIDEO MAN! Pleasee make a video about ragnacok, I really want to hear your thoughts about it

[@monstersinthecity]

Give me god of war trashes most of the moveset .

[@monstersinthecity]

@@ernestofelix6734 story is great but the gameplay suffers in the same way

[@phenomgaming3245]

The biggest issue is that they are focusing on the story loop and not on enjoyable gameplay. Quick-time cutscenes are cool but it felt like most of god of war 2018 was an intermission between those high-quality cutscenes. You spend most of the game killing indistinguishable meat mobs and solving basic puzzles to get to the next part until you get to the end of the game with one boss fight that matters, and its very good as a climax, overshadowing that you had to do a boring grind to get there

[@bisexualichigo4227]

“The little Puñeta” Ah, a man who knows his spanish.

[@Corvaric]

Filipino also has that

[@isaacmendes1926]

Same in portuguese

[@RayAnimations..]

@@Corvaric good thing i dont hear anyone hear use it

[@Shiketaum]

@@isaacmendes1926 Será que e a mesma coisa memo? Pq o som e igual kkkkk

[@Puppy_Puppington]

I mean there was lots of Spanish version gameplay of the originals :3

[@ghost7685]

Someone who actually played the games. Most people throw a tantrum and never even try them.

[@eggsbenedict2251]

Yes, they call themselves games journalists. 😆

[@bluesman4208]

Can I just add, they made the Norse Gods WAY too down to earth. You start to lose the understanding that Kratos was once a mortal, a very angry man who would climb out of Hades to punish the Gods for their betrayals. Why did they make both games a CW tier Character Drama?

[@petermj1098]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@onlyinoniontown4987​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠The sons of Odin reflect Kratos’ past problems. Baldur reflects Kratos’ past rage. Thor reflects Kratos’ past depression. Heimdall reflects Kratos’ past arrogance. Tyr reflects Kratos’ past imprisonment. Odin himself represents a god who manipulates ‘hope’ to mortals and his sons alike for his own agenda. Athena wanted to manipulate and keep ‘hope’ with mortals as well but Kratos stopped her from doing so. Kratos tries to give ‘hope’ to Atreus about his life no matter what prophecy says. While Odin who controls ‘hope’ with his sons based on prophecy.

[@lorddragonya]

Yes they made a mockery of the Norse gods because the game was made by libtards and Jewish executives who hate white people and our gods

[@TheMountainDemon]

Thank you for this. I have LOVED all of the original GOW games, even the PSP ones. I played about 10 mins of the 2018 and just said, "nope." Then turned it off. I knew right away it was not for me. I can see why others would enjoy the new two games, but the soul of what it used to be is gone completely.

[@cHoppigLemOns-bn3el]

What? just play an hour at least,

[@pokahman236]

​@@cHoppigLemOns-bn3elIt gets worse the more you play

[@cHoppigLemOns-bn3el]

I mean its your opinion and i cant argue that. But if im not Mistaken Cory Barlog who directed Gow (2018) really had to convince Sony to make another God of war, and have a good reason to do so. So there was almost No chance we were getting another God of war Game thats exactly like 1,2, or 3, at least for now. And i fully disagree with the soul being Gone this Game was clearly made with a ton of passion. @@loerzo8710

[@raiden8063]

That is what happens when you don't even play the game. No soul? Yeah, you would know because you played it, right?

[@delko000]

I endured a couple hours and finished it on youtube lol. What a bore

[@randyrhoads1539]

God of War 3 is the best game in my opinion. And i miss young badass Kratos

[@visualteastories]

😢

[@aaronbaron6468]

The kid is the anime side character but shouts like an anime protagonist

[@Snavels]

Villain: "I will now use my SUPER ATTACK!" Kid: "DAD! HE'S GOING TO USE HIS SUPER ATTACK!"

[@rickshs7613]

More like Harry Potter shouting spells non stop

[@kmartbruh622]

Like dragon ball z

[@kmartbruh622]

@@harrisonbetker2271 my nigga you good?

[@kmartbruh622]

@@harrisonbetker2271 its anime

[@Codem750]

I really agree with the bosses fights and fights in general. In my opinion, they were kind of boring and not impressive in comparison with the other games.

[@The-god-of-war]

IDK, for me the bosses in this game are somewhat similar to the other games, older games had you fight them, then fight smaller enemies or big ones, then fight them again about 3 or 4 times, then you qte to kill them in a gruesome way. same thing with the fights in this game. But I do want to hear your thoughts as well. I do like having a diff perspective.

[@pablogomesoliveira2677]

Fr like half the bosses were trolls , really hoped they put something different in ragnarok

[@mr.amazonsins8013]

@@pablogomesoliveira2677 bosses were restricted by the budget I hope ragnarok will have all of norse gods as boss fights

[@Shameer24]

@@mr.amazonsins8013 agreed, I do hope their are more large scale bosses present in ragnarok

[@andidinu1456]

@@mr.amazonsins8013 i hope the combat in general gets more varied and we get more interesting enemies and mechanics ,cause honestly there’s no other way to put it ,the combat in this game is bad ,just bad : repetitive ,oversimplified, the ARPG elements turn fights into a joke ,and just too much HP ,preety much the only way this game knows to buff it’s enemies is to turn them into damage sponges ,or to make them dans around the arena ,forcing you to wrestle the camera Of course the easy solution to this problem is to also dash around the arena and put your back againt a corner ,so you can see all the arena ,but it gets old quick And the bosses are easier and less challenging than most of the normal enemy encounters You see , in almost every game , the bosses are purpusely designed to be extremely hard to stun ,so that you Both keep dishing out your attacks ,heck ,some of the best ones ,like Hércules , could even parry your attacks. However ,here , Baldur is as easy to Block and stun as the average draugur (the regular zombi goons), so fighting him is just like fighting a dashing draugur with a gigantic health bar The dragon is a set piece battle like the Collosus or Cronos but it lacks the element of scale that made those interesting : fighting an army of gross monsters as you climb your way up your mountain sized pops as he attepts to squash you , being trown around a burning city by a gold statue while performant epic QUTEs . It resembles the hydra in the original , in that it takes way too long and is hella repetitive The trolls regardeless whether they are minibosses or actual bosses ,are the definition of a bad enemy design ,for the same reason as the dragon ,except there’s like seven of them

[@asslicker6455]

What I also hate is the "relatability" BS Santa Monica Studios was pushing during development. They kept going on about how "Oh, the people that grew up with the original God Of War are dads now so they aren't into the edgy gore filled games anymore". Please, even when I'm an old man I'm still going to enjoy the original trilogy. Don't assume what I'll be into when I'm older, Santa Monica.

[@sul_9999]

I think that they were going for “as your older youd prefer something deeper”. Its kinda like food, sure chicken nuggets are still good as an adult but youd usually prefer some proper food, no?

[@natetete1379]

New God of war is just uncharted with kratos. All PS4 exclusives play and feel the same. Because they are just re-skins of the same game engine and animations.

[@spiral7041]

You couldn't be more wrong lol

[@MK-fz6il]

I may not agree with everything here, but it is infuriating that in light of the new version of God of War, so many people belittle and oversimplify the old games. I do enjoy the new ones, but even so, they're nothing compared to the originals. Not in story, not in gameplay.

[@InfiniteDeckhand]

Bad take, lol.

[@redskull378]

@@InfiniteDeckhand Good take,actually.

[@PrickDonny]

That is subject to opinion. You can not say that the new ones are nothing compared to the old ones, that's outright disrespectful. And this is coming from someone who loves and played all the old games.

[@visualteastories]

Yea. The god of war we played When we were kids is the real god of war. It’s bloody brutal fast and it was an absolute thrill… the new one has daddy issues lol wtf happened? Marketing and Sales happened. Just like how most movies comin out these days are shit

[@chadgrimes252]

​@@visualteastoriesPreach 💯this is the truth that these new GOW fans are in denial about

[@Ava6581]

It's interesting that he never mentions God of War: Ascension. That game's failure was the impatience for all of God of War 4s massive changes.

[@brianm9235]

True

[@sssgaming612]

game&online were fun and cool, it was just that people were expecting the story to move forward, where did Kratos go after gow3? how is he still alive? we already had chains of olympus, so why another

[@asuraart285]

@@sssgaming612 that's the actual reason of ascension's failure

[@surferOS101]

Ascension failed because it came after God of war 3. Going from killing the biggest gods in the Greek pantheon to sisters of fate ripoffs was pretty lame. If it came out before 3 it would have fared better

[@asuraart285]

@@surferOS101 but to honest furies were more menacing than sister of fates

[@calebjordan6511]

Someone should introduce this guy to the guy who loved the Marauders in Doom Eternal so they can duke it out.

[@Foecone]

You do realise they're the same person right?

[@calebjordan6511]

@@Foecone You do realize that's the joke right?

[@Foecone]

Thank god

[@samadhoosen6014]

@@Foecone whoosh

[@Foecone]

@@samadhoosen6014 reddit funny

[@pietrochemello7691]

I remember when I was playing gow 3 chaos mode having to write down where to use magic because of how game changing it was, even needing to reset to my last save when I went into a big fight without magic, really miss that.

[@underthemayo]

You mean actually having to make DECISIONS about the resources you use? Instead of being able to treat every fight the same?

[@faville]

Good video. I have played the original GoW and GoW3 and even though I stuck to Normal difficulty and still barely survived I had a lot of fun. It’s great to hear why that combat was so deep. Even though I was never good at it, I could tell it was much more than a button masher like I had read in some opinions (mostly because I wasn’t getting achievements and scores that reflected good play-similar to statues in Bayonetta). I just started GoW 2018 and only by the second large troll after meeting the first dwarf I was feeling like a lot of things were “off” and I was getting very little satisfaction out of playing, and already dreading restarting fights after dying (repeatedly) for what I considered cheap reasons, which isn’t a good sign. I also got no joy or excitement looking at the impending skill/item tree. Thanks for clearing up why I am not enjoying this title.

[@zimy0812]

"The old game made me feel like I am Kratos. This one just makes like I'm controlling him." Exactly!!! I had the exact same thought. The old game made you feel like you had the power of a god that you could unleash upon your enemy in whatever way you wanted. This one makes me feel like I'm just playing as a god on a set rale.

[@consentwastaken1]

really makes you feel like kratos - ign

[@muittyishere]

Same here man.I wish they remaster the old god of war

[@consentwastaken1]

@@muittyishere did they not

[@consentwastaken1]

@d nasty it doesnt lmao

[@draco_1876]

d nasty y’all niggas just want something to complain about

[@pencilswordfish]

When you brought up Doom2016 in this video, incidentally Doom Eternal feels more like a classic GOW game than the new one. Old GoW and Eternal = platforming, unashamed badassery, and amazing combat loop.

[@whenallelsfails21]

Where in old how do you use platforming during fights lol? Also old gow has a block that stops any fucking attack. Pretty fucking mindless if you ask me.

[@necrosteel5013]

Tyler O'Quinn did you miss the beginning of the video.I think it was apparent from the game footage.

[@thelordelric8424]

@@whenallelsfails21 blocking in old God of War doesn't stop every attack. There are heavy blows that can break though it, as well as grab attacks.

[@realamericannegro977]

Yep

[@punani_slayer4209]

If you want platforming go play Mario or something. Don't let nostalgia cloud your vision

[@cutiepie6796]

I DON'T LIKE HOW KRATOS IS A SIMP AND BETA NOW

[@alsimmonshellspawn6021]

They emasculated and humiliated him now

[@cutiepie6796]

@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 EXACTLY

[@chupetintrujillo6690]

XD

[@KingEgyptian]

It's annoying how people think he's "wise" & "mature" now cuz he's sad old push over.

[@cutiepie6796]

@@KingEgyptian EXACTLY

[@kratosrivia2498]

I agree with your points here. The combat in the previous GOW games were much more exciting and had a lot of verticality and gore to it. The new GOW combat was not as exciting and intense as the previous games, and the enemies and bosses were repetitive and boring. But GOW had to evolve as a story, and the Norse mythology was a great step taken by Santa Monica. I'm hoping they make the combat more intense and exciting in Ragnarok, with the addition of more diverse enemies and bosses.

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

They sacrificed a bit of gameplay in exchange of story? (I guess it’s an equivalent exchange)

[@sarveshsivakumar8956]

@@Randomdudefromtheinternet no dude this is a game not a movie all I wish is more bosses and another weapon which would make it perfect yes 2018 gow was good but the best thing is combat and story driven by gameplay ,bosses,puzzles, platforming which makes this perfect i was not satisfied that we can't jump and there is no xp for how you play if they make this better I think it would be even better that's it

[@RodolfoGarcia-gu5rd]

They have said that they will add more verticality to the combat in ragnarok

[@Zexibata]

To be honest, the history couldn't possibly have another take as we know....the whole Greek world was destroyed

[@icarovdl]

storytelling did not get better, wtf

[@ilikemachieneguns]

As a hardcore fan of the original trilogy, I absolutely loved the new game too. Only complaints was lack of enemy and boss variety and not quite brutal enough overall. I wanna brutally murder Thor like Hermes in GoW3. Hopefully the next game steps up the sheer brutality and awesome scenery.

[@alankritsahachaudhuri2970]

I did not play the originals but I still found problems like Kratos' power level reskinned troll bosses who should not be bosses at all ( that would make the game better). I personally loved the combat and story( I am not bashing the Greek story as I have not played it) Overall it deserves most of its praise but people can have different opinions

[@christopheryanez]

I hope I get to fuckin smash Thor’s head with his own hammer, I already know he’s gonna do something with Atreus and Kratos will lose his shit.

[@Bangaly16kaba]

I think that will change with ragnorok maybe they won’t do the one shot type story telling

[@Jack_80]

yeah, the bosses were my biggest complaint. the optional valkyrie battles were the best, most intense boss fights in the game imo. pretty disappointing that the story bosses were so lame in comparison. i played on give me god of war mode and the story bosses were still boring and overly easy. but those valkyrie battles never got old for me. hoping in the next game there are a lot more story bosses and they are done much better than the first game. other than that complaint though, i love the combat in gow4, i think it was done perfectly. once you begin unlocking abilities there is so much variety in combat. oh yeah, one more minor complaint are the limited finishing moves. they are very cool but quickly become repetitive. i hope they add several choices to finish off stunned enemies in the next game, that would make a big difference.

[@youssefyoussef9418]

yeah Santa Monica said the next game will be wayyy bigger than this one they said that "this is just the start of greatness that is to come"

[@mackyme001]

I still love the old camera angle from the old God Of War. Same with Resident Evil, I still love the 3rd person view from the old Resident evil than this crap remakes.

[@underthemayo]

Check out my Dear Capcom video, and my video on resident evil camera angles.

[@loonowolf2160]

Still the 2018 camera is better u literally b**tch around bc of the camera change bruh

[@etho86]

A proper GoW 4 that expanded on #3 would of been cool.

[@kerbe3]

One thing I love about Zeus' lighting spell in God of War 1, is that the spell is used at the end of the game in a cut scene. I can't remember any game really doing that. Spells you get during the game only exist while playing the game and not in the cut scenes [except here of course]

[@JulioCruz261]

Outside of the GOW series, Kingdom Hearts does this sometimes. In some cutscenes Donald uses Curaga and Sora uses his Shooting Star keyblade's transformation during the Big Hero 6 world. It's super cool to see the abilities the characters get used in cutscenes

[@khaorix2667]

Witcher does it occasionally too.

[@balanc-joy9187]

That stuck out to me too. I kinda wish they'd do that more...

[@garrettwilliams3816]

There are a ton of games that do this. Final fantasy does this stuff all the time as an example.

[@Pantheonslayer]

I believe bioshock did this as well

[@ningen112]

"How God of war was Ruined" laughs in Ninja Gaiden Yaiba

[@uhhhwhat6581]

I forgot that abomination exists

[@XenojinHayabusa615]

Ryu deserved better... 😭

[@f10pped36]

I can still never forgive them for what they done to him

[@zaser1264]

Ninja Gaiden still has the small chance of a comeback; OG God of War doesn't. Not really a good parallel to make considering that when Team Ninja wanted to make a game different in style from NG, they just created a new IP (something that Sony did not have the confidence to do). And despite the fact that Ryu is a bland character, he wasn't cucked and made into something he's not with zero character development.

[@f10pped36]

@@zaser1264 yeah my big problem with Kratos was that his development was done off screen. It would've been nice to see him turn into dad Kratos

[@joeldavis5752]

One day people will hopefully realize not every game needs a new super slow, repetative and cinematic story to be good.

[@Ghst-hl8fl]

I blame naughty dog for this. Games now are focusing on graphics and story, rather than fun and intuitive gameplay. Hence, one of the reason why I adore nintendo's game output. They never try and overachieve technically, and focus on making their games fun to play. The industry really needs to stop awarding these type of games that try to be cinematic movies, rather than actual games.

[@Slurpified]

@@Ghst-hl8fl Really? Cause I blame the mainstream ps4 community and their doglike consumerism.

[@Slurpified]

Agreed. The new GoW felt like a movie more than a video game lol.

[@SJ-di5zu]

Imo, that’s not even the biggest problem with GOW 2018 (though being able to skip the cutscenes would be nice). RDR2 did a great job using the story to give a narrative-driven experience. Bloodborne as well, to a lesser extent. I think the gameplay and world building is just poor on GOW 2018. The combat is boring, because the high health and lack of flinch makes it feel like you’re fighting enemies with paper swords. Difficulty is added artificially by simply giving the enemies more health, especially when fighting opponents you’re supposed to fight later. They couldn’t have just, given tougher opponents faster attacks and stuff? There’s only like 4-5 enemy types total, bosses are reused and honestly not that fun outside a couple, and it’s a bit too easy and forgiving. The puzzles are slow and grind the game to a halt, as well as feeling unnecessary at points. The gameplay is just a constant loop of “boy we have a problem”, puzzle, fight, rinse and repeat. As for the world building, the open world feels… lifeless and stale. The side quests are not really worth doing and are largely boring as they follow the same gameplay loops as the main quests, and rewards aren’t really anything too special, which just makes them feel useless. The world is also quite small and limited, and never really expands outside of opening other realms. There’s also never really a reason to go back and visit anyone, like, say the witch, because when you have to see people the main quest will tell you to do so. With all of this, God of War feels like an identity crisis. It doesn’t really do anything well. I guess it’s okay in certain areas. Is it an RPG? Well, it’d be a pretty subpar one. Action game? Eh, the combat wasn’t anything great. Cinematic film? Well, the film was a wild goose chase of a guy and his son trying to go up the mountain, with some over the top plot twists (“this is the wrong mountain!”) to boot. Is it a puzzle game? Well, it’s not a very creative one considering most of the puzzles are just throwing your axe at something shiny. So what is the game good at?

[@jacopom.7477]

@@SlurpifiedBullshit, the new god of war is fun to play, with fantastic gameplay

[@cambo438]

idk why i didn’t get the old ones on my ps2 i regret everything

[@coolmaan507]

41:40 'nothing kratos can do anything about' Me: *Gets visions of Kratos ripping Helioses head off*

[@Solidude]

They should've just take inspiration from yakuza's combat camera perspective. When traveling it's third person but when in combat it zooms out and there's more visual clarity on where the enemies are.

[@Lidemann92]

Totally agree. Old games were 100x times better. Gameplay wise and story wise .

[@nightshadoew436]

40:02 one of my favourite moments in all of God of War series is when you have to hit the circle button to push Calliope towards the end. It is one of the hardest things to do, not because you symphatise with Kratos and his grief but because it is litterally hard. I am 99% sure that moment is the fastest you need to press the circle button in order to succed in the whole series. Ripping of cyclops eyes, decapitating gorgons even killing gods are a lot easier than pushing away a child, pushing away Kratos' daughter all so you can save her but never see her again. Not to mention when you succed the first time she grabs you again and you have to push her away again and it is harder the second time. When you manage to push her away for good the third time she falls to the ground defeated and there is no raye or triumph in Kratos, just sadness. That is game design and story working together to show Kratos' feelings and show that this is the hardest thing he ever had to to in the games.

[@hyper0505]

those who said that old GOW was just button mashing game probably didn't ever tried to beat Theseus in GOW 2 with Titan Mode

[@UmDevoto]

The psp gow shows that

[@MNSH]

They cant get pass over the narrow wooden logs you have to carefully move over for ex in GOW 1 after first hydra encounter or at Hades area where you have to walk over them with spinning blades rotating around

[@hyper0505]

@@MNSH man... the blade spinning while you climbing is really hard I have to die multiple times and waste so many hours on that stage.. GOW 1 sure gives a lot of challenge and puzzles

[@MNSH]

@@hyper0505 yea dude, and what this game offers?? here press O to jump automatically hold up to climb

[@hyper0505]

@@MNSH 🤣🤣💀

[@matthewbradow]

"I'm not opposed to a total reinvention of a series." *Proceeds to complain about every way that they reinvented the series.*

[@squidleprechaun2751]

Yeah... They are different kinds of games, and are both good in different aspects, I prefer the new one, but i can see why some people prefer the old ones. This guy doesn't have any patience, so he doesn't like it. He doesn't know how to look at the new game.

[@dekotarose8594]

Squid Leprechaun Because it's not even really God of War no more bud. It's just a Last of Us clone. 🤪🤪🤪

[@squidleprechaun2751]

@@dekotarose8594 The Last Of us clone, lmao... I have played through TLOU countless of hours and I absolutely love that game, maybe even more than GOW. And I can say that GOW is not a TLOU clone. I really hope i didn't waste this much time typing, and your comment was a joke... If it was then have a great day, and if it wasn't, you should really play GOW4 it's amazing!

[@naxergss2625]

@@squidleprechaun2751 it is though tlou is trash

[@squidleprechaun2751]

@@naxergss2625 TLOU ain't trash, you should definitely try it, I know it may seem overrated but everything people say about it is true.

[@uchiha013itachi]

Holy fuck... I've just had a realization: It's not that we grew out of games, it's just that the games have become less inventive

[@petermj1098]

The biggest disappointment of the new games is getting rid of QTE kills. It’s like Mortal Kombat getting rid of fatalities

[@goodbagel325]

honestly when i first played gow4 something never felt right and i could never put my finger on why. but this video just sums up the issues i had with the game and i could never finish it. i feel like the game gives you the allusion that the story is deep when i have no reason to be invested into it.

[@OriginalDizzleKing]

Except when you actually look into it the story is very deep. From the very dialogue itself it foreshadows a ton of things to follow in the sequel. They planned it all out. They even deeped dived into mythology more. For example kratos cutting the apple in half that sindri throws at him is because in greek mythlogy that was how males would propose to others. I feel like the game is amazing and incredibly deep. I disagree hard with him even though I've agree'd with him on his doom eternal maurauder video. Even in this video essay I think he pretentiously emotion dump and load onto people as he does through out. "it will drive you insane" "the combat is boring" "you hate the first 10 minutes of dialogue" etc etc. Those aren't exact quotes just general messages he pushed and was overly critiquing as it was very subjective. Even when he pointed out on the lack of depth of the combat he is completely ignoring the amount of mastery people got over these games literally stun locking bosses to death on max difficulty cause they've mastered the combat. He said he is fine with games trying to take different directions but the beginning of this video was literally just fan boying over the original games rather than just getting to objective critiques.

[@zach_zach5453]

it's characters are some of the best

[@baileybuckley4796]

@@OriginalDizzleKingthe story is mediocre and they harp on kratos being unable to forgive himself for who he was as a god of war with the new DLC even going as far as to be dishonest about who he was saying he did certain things bc he had to in order to inevitably find his way back to zues… but kratos wasn’t good, he was quite bad quite often actually and the developers are trying to sweep that under the rug by leaving out bits and pieces of what he’d actually done in the originals so that they may hit a broader audience and be more acceptable by todays cultural standards, thus leading to more game sales…

[@montruo000000007]

You can say that about literally any game/book/movie

[@raiden8063]

​@@baileybuckley4796Try playing Valhalla and you will see how wrong you are. It never says he needs to excuse his actions but accept them. He literally acknowledges the horrible things he has done to move on to the future.

[@knigfotlets9870]

Man, I love all God of War games including the latest and I've never heard somebody say that the old games had a bad story or the new one gives the franchise finally a good story, but that may be because I don't like to read comments. But your video seems to be solely based around shitting on this game and every aspect of it, I get that from a mechanical standpoint it doesn't remotely feel like the previous GoW games (at least until you obtain certain weapons) but the game doesn't try to be one of the previous games which it reflects with all of it elements. I also find your double bias kind of frustrating, you glorify the auto-blocking mechanics of the previous games while you hate on the auto-jump. You also speak of tactical gameplay in your videos but you hate the camera where you can't see enemies that are behind you and that there are indicators, you know that you can turn off those indicators right? You could simply turn them off and think of a way to get enemies off of your back, which to me sounds pretty tactical, but you are busy hating on the camera. Not to mention that the camera angle in the old games was often a pain in the ass especially when it shifted mid-fight. You beg for a universal block but also a tactical experience, which doesn't really make sense (to me at least). The premise is simple, don't let enemies get your back, if you do it simply means you don't pay attention to your surroundings which you can do even with an over the shoulder camera. Claiming to move the camera with the right stick like in a shooter is tedious is also kinda awkward to me, it just means you aren't accustomed to the controls. It's like saying Dark Souls and other Souls like games have "shooter control schemes" as well, I don't think so no. I get that you didn't get a typical God of War experience with this game and this is the whole point of your video, but shitting on every aspect that is different from previous games makes it look like you are too conservative to be open to the idea that a game can change and that drastic changes to a franchise don't have to be bad. There are a lot of games where changing the basics of the gameplay ruined the franchise, but I don't think God of War is one of them. After three titles I really welcomed the change, it's fresh and new and the plot is told in a great way and the gameplay feels modern and the combat is polished and challenging on the higher difficulties, the RPG elements might be out of place for some people but I like them and they aren't too deep that you would have to "look at the gear stats for half an hour", it becomes clear pretty quickly which armor sets serve a specific purpose, there is no need to compare stats. While I respect your opinion, I don't think it's justified to shit on every aspect of the game because you don't like it. I'm not saying you have to like it, but I think you should look at stuff from a few different angles than just your own when criticizing something, otherwise it looks like you are simply rambling about the game not meeting your own expectations.

[@rlharveson]

Well said. I literally have nothing else to say but that.

[@toastedskilletslol4250]

You are actually a mouth breather, if you think this game is anything more then a waste of money.

[@rlharveson]

​@@toastedskilletslol4250 Okay fancy word man, explain to me how this game is a "Waste of money" as you put it.

[@toastedskilletslol4250]

@@rlharveson you are paying for an interactive movie. If that ruffles your jimmies then go for it. I enjoy a game for the gameplay, not really the art/story. Like you said people are entitled to there opinion, and that's what mine is.

[@rlharveson]

@@toastedskilletslol4250 Then you won't mind me sharing my opinion, if you PLAYED the the other games in the past, the story would probably seem a lot more nice and wholesome, and the game itself already has good combat, as well as (spoilers here) the blades of chaos later on. There are the Valkyrie's, the fire realm challenges and much more, so if you don't like the story, then that's fine, but that doesn't mean the game is bad just because YOU don't like it's story.

[@danyjoms13]

42:25 baldur gets there after kratos, and kratos knows that vengeance leads to nothing good so he tries to stop baldur from doing his mistake and besides kratos wants to protect freya because she help them in their quest.

[@ribas8943]

The new game is gorgeous, but uncreative and grind boring. It's a reflection of the current trend in AAA games. I agree with this review.

[@RabbitConfirmed]

Exactly! Sometimes they forget, that a game first and foremost has to be you know.. FUN! And they think it's all about graphics and cinematics nowadays. Fucking disgusting.

[@coreymckee4844]

Thank last of us for that. Sony has been trying to replicate that games success for years. Its getting REALLY old.🙄

[@skateplays8880]

Nah the combats a great improvement from 2018 tbh

[@aaronbood1999]

If you are going to have an open world game, you need to insensitize the players to explore. Look at spiderman ps4 as an example of open word games done right

[@Gr8atgaming]

What’s also boring about the new games is that they make it cinematic and does not feel like a game at all like old games weren’t mostly showing cinematic scenes just gameplays

[@natetete1379]

Games used to be about gameplay mixed with visuals. Games nowadays are just movies with a couple button presses from time to time. Press forward to walk to cutscenes. Press interact to start cutscene. Videogames are a joke now.

[@L0g0Z0g0]

Agree with you on this one, although should correct you that AAA games are a joke now, because indies are still making some cool games, like New Blood titles, Hollow Knight, and more I can't remember right now

[@natetete1379]

@@L0g0Z0g0 ehhh. I still argue the same. Most of that stuff is shovelware, what new an innovative indie games are really coming out. It's mostly just cash grab switch ports, and remasters or games that are still good but have been abandoned. Lots of indies games come out every year. But they all are so similar I see no reason to upgrade. There are 100s of "games" on switch that are just text adventures with slutty animes children for fat men to jerk off to. PS5 games are just re-skins of games from 2014. And Xboxone/series has been the same console with the same useless games for 10 years now. Nintendo just releases lazy shit games because they know collectors will buy anything they put out to scalp it on ebay. Video games are just a medium to steal your money and waste your time. Only play stuff from before 2015 and you are not missing anything important in gaming history.

[@alexd7256]

Me for no reason in gow 2, running away from the orbs to see if they can catch up to me.

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

To be fair regarding the lack of variety in visual enemy design: The Skandinavians didn't have as much imagination as the Greek did. At least in arbitrarily mashing real animals including humans together.

[@someguy9970]

There are a ton of creatures in Norse mythology lol wtf? Do you only watch Marvel movies and think the World Serpent and Fenris are the only creatures in Norse Mythology?

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

@@someguy9970 Of course there are a ton of creatures, but most of them are merely upscaled - if at all - versions of rather normal animals. If you compare them to the tons of hybrids in Greek mythology, it does not give much room for weird enemy design. Nidhöggr, Fafnir, Sleipnir, Garm... they are all not that much out there as the Chimaera and Medusa.

[@lzi9452]

Der Stabilator it really isn’t an excuse, you’re lying to yourself if you genuinely think that’s the reason the developers didn’t expand the enemy variety

[@ausnahmenwerfer5570]

@@lzi9452 "Lying to yourself"... wow. I don't care so much about the game, okay? Didn't even play it, just thought that'd be something to consider.

[@lzi9452]

Der Stabilator I didn’t mean that as a personal attack, it’s just so blatantly obvious that the developers were just being lazy

[@5fmuke535]

100% agree with this perspective. Good work🏆🏆🏆

[@gilbert7508]

Very late but I kind of liked the fact his wife wasnt shown for most of the game because if it's someone kratos is willing to go so far for her so she was atleast special. Wish they played more into a mystery or like slowly let the characters open up more and more to each other and talk about her more.

[@Bigboss192x]

If it was a brand new game without the GOW name the fact we're given long drawn out opening sequence for a woman we don't know or never was shown, would have way more people pointing out the sloppy jump in the middle story telling

[@ApolloDoesit]

@@Bigboss192x But it's not. So it works.

[@Bigboss192x]

@@ApolloDoesit That's lazy and also not true. If it was true it wouldn't be mentioned.

[@johnleonard9102]

I liked how they kept her appearance hidden and all that you saw of her was on the murals. There's a certain beauty in ambiguity that leaves you wondering what she look like and you just make your own idea of her appearance. The way other characters describe her will bring up a different woman for each player for whoever you know that fits those descriptions. For myself I pictured my mom. Ragnarok ruins that by having Kratos go into dream sequences where he talks to his late wife. Ironically she's a ginger like my mom is, but it destroyed that graceful angelic ambiguity similar to how Master Chief taking off his helmet in the Halo show ruins his mystery.

[@johndiddilyjoe6258]

@@johnleonard9102 what're you talking about, the ambiguity of her face has no significance with the story. It's an artistic choice at best and lazy at worst, there's no buildup or payoff with her appearance. The player doesn't learn something new or gain understanding by seeing or not seeing her face. People will overthink the most braindead narrative choice Jesus. It's Kratos's second wife less impact than the first and an even less interesting story. She's not a representation of all mother's or all wives she was just meant to be a character the player felt for. And even if your shallow "No face means it could be any face, Even my mom's?!" View was the intended goal by developers, they failed. You're the only one I've seen bring this up. She's just a wasted character.

[@hexa412]

Though I see contradictions, I respectfully disagree. I don't think God of War is RUINED because of 1 new popular game. I think that's just blowing it out of proportion. The game is different from the original trilogy (plus the prequels and Ascension), but thinking that this ruins all of that is just childlike.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

It certainly ruins the potential for an actual GOW game being made in the future.

[@LukeSparrow221]

@@miguelbranquinho7235 Meh, GoW had its run with 3 amazing games. The quality wqs already going down with all the spin-offs after/in between. You wouldn't have gotten your proper sequel either way.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

@@LukeSparrow221 I wasnt talking about a sequel I was talking about a game. Why make a sequel but not a follow up of the mechanics that made Gow God of War

[@i_am_dementia9926]

@@miguelbranquinho7235because it not a sequel. It's a reboot. REBOOT. A soft one.

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

@@i_am_dementia9926 it follows the story of the previous games. Its a God of War game isnt it? Why Change everything about the series and still call it God Of War?

[@theunchartedwolf8996]

Isn't every game a button mashing game because your always pressing buttons 🤯

[@matthewcrane5294]

No?

[@W00JDA]

you can beat every game by random button mashing, if you're patient enough

[@NienNienNien]

It isn't just about button mashing it's about getting the combos. The things i miss about the older games is that kratos would have like magic the new game just feels like power up that comes from items or from the axe. Another thing hate about the new game is that the enemy executions feel repetitive and no variation in them like in the older games.

[@matthewcrane5294]

It’s been 12 days since I’ve seen it and I still can’t believe this man said this💀somebody tell this idiot “mashing” isn’t the same as “pressing”

[@W00JDA]

@@matthewcrane5294 dude, ffs , he just wanted to make a joke...

[@biohazarduncovered]

This doesnt even tickle the OG trilogy and the PSP entries 😂 I finally goy to playing 2018 on PS Plus on PS5 and i went into it thinking i want to like this game, 35 hours later im fed up and ready for the credits to roll.

[@narainsingh2525]

The original God Of War games were the bomb

[@juanrocha251]

Bro oh my god this made me download God Of War and play it on PCSX2. I missed this game so damn much

[@viptaiga]

I remember my dad saying he found the newest GOW the worse one. He was so annoyed by the kid he didnt even finish it 😂

[@mrpuss2519]

I could ve said " even more annoying than me? Immpossible."

[@davitsk1]

God of War 3 is still the best god of war game!

[@Ma1q444]

I have no idea how someone can enjoy this game. The combat is mind numbingly boring, you fight the same draugr enemies most of the game, the boss fights are horrible, you fight the same reskin troll 4 times. Their is no enemy variety. The story is not good this is what you call the illusion good graphics give, just because the game has good graphics and slow and has a father and son somehow it’s a masterpiece. The game main goal is to spread your wife ashes, yet I have no motivation to do so because I have no idea who she is so I do not care. The og games were 100% better that’s what made them so good not the combat. I didn’t particular love the combat of the original games so I have no bias towards this game but GOW4 combat is atrocious, I shouldn’t even have to list of all the reasons why because it is self explanatory. I remember I first got this game when it came out I was so bored I could not finish it, it has no redeeming qualities. A lot of people praise the graphics while yes they are good the artistic side of the game is awful as you see the same palette of colors the whole game. I’m tired of games just becoming walking simulators, while the graphics evolved modern games completely forget what make games, games. AAA gaming industry is lost and in despair this was the main game that showed that too me and how the casuals feed the devs. Please support your local indie or smaller company games instead of these horrible companies who push out the same shit every year and force workers to push agendas in their games. My opinion of this game has nothing to do with bias, I remember playing ac odyssey and finding it a decent fun but repetitive and this was in covid so i had a lot of time. I had already played ac 3 and 4 as a kid but never played the trilogy so I went and bought the ezio trilogy and I ac 2 and brotherhood, I thought it was boring and tedious and outdated but then I had a revelation and I replayed the games and loved it. The reason I changed. My opinion was because I stopped looking at as a chore to play and a game and started taking it slow and appreciating everything, odyssey almost ruined the old games for me because the big change it made my brain adapt to same mediocre boring slash and looter cycle of odyssey. Now I think odyssey is awful and the og games the best. The reason I just went into that tangent is to show how modern games influence your perception of older games, for example if you are playing on 60fps games for awhile and then switch to a 30fps you will automatically see the difference but then you will get used to it and adapt. Gamers nowadays get blinded by the modern gaming industry graphics and fidelity they forget what makes a game good, if I can watch a games cutscenes on KZbin and enjoy it more then playing the game something is wrong. My 2 favorite games of this generation’s are: kingdom come deliverance(2018) Hitman 3 and the trilogy They both share one common quality, and that is no hand holding now in hitman you have to change some settings to prevent that but it’s there, we need free will back in gaming don’t give me a game over screen because I didn’t follow your rules. I’m done.

[@Papa_Straight]

People these days just like mediocre crap bro. It also doesn't help games are mostly focusing on gay shit than anything else

[@Ma1q444]

@@Papa_Straight facts but nothing can be done sadly, that’s why I’m not supporting western companies anymore.

[@vainojari]

i don't care if the game has good graphics or has movie like cutscenes or stories i'll play a game if it's good. for example the original resident evil 4 is one of my favourite games of all time and i was 4 years old when it came out so i don't like it because of nostalgia. i don't care that it looks outdated because the combat is so much fun and the good old cheesy capcom dialogue makes the game hilarious at times even if it has a horror setting

[@delko000]

Yes, i didnt play odyssey but i agree on almost all your points. My breaking point with modern gaming was precisely god of war 2018

[@brodsworth4966]

Sad to see so many people just disliked this without even watching

[@Bucchigirii]

Right it's sad if they did there minds would change

[@calebbrowning8918]

@@OXY187 nah im ps4 player and GOD OF WAR SUCKS

[@eivor5453]

I bet many people who play the games never read comics and graphic novels which are much more interesting than the games

[@Soblev]

@@eivor5453 wait there are God of War comics?!

[@eivor5453]

@@Soblev yes

[@DustyLamp]

It's a whole new game, only connection to GoW is kratos and his past. They really could have wrote up another Norse character instead of relying on the drama from the older games, but they wanted the brand recognition. I respect that you don't like it as much as the og games, I miss the good hack and slashes too.

[@robinanwaldt]

What do you mean with "They wanted the brand recognition."? This game was imagined and designed as a God of War sequel, not just a game set in Norse Mythology.

[@DustyLamp]

@@robinanwaldt they wanted to attatch the familiarity of a long established franchise to the title. I get that the game was "imagined as a new direction" for the franchise, but my point is you could replace kratos with angry old norse god #6 and you'd have to change very little. Meanwhile GoW classic gameplay has effectively been consumed for this game. I enjoy them both, and we could have had both.

[@kevinz2738]

@@DustyLamp do you actually think that it would be the same if it was other character than Kratos? I mean, what a better way than connect with a characters horrible and violent past when we are actually the ones who went through it and know what he went through. There is clearly a huge connection with the game being of Krato's redemption or facing the future after all he did. It difitively wouldnt be the same with any other character.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

Yeah, the entire redemption arc works *because* it's Kratos and we know about all the fucked up shit he's done and why he feels the way he does about gods. If you just threw in some random, "angry old norse god #6" you'd have none of that.

[@JayfroC]

My problem is that Kratos should've stayed dead at the end of GoW III. In my book, that would've been the perfect conclusion to his arc.

[@KpopIsDead69]

this is a legit question to anyone who thinks the new GOW games are better than the OLD games. how exactly did god of war grew and evolved into a better game? it used to be deep, philosophical, nihilist, full of love, full of terror, existentialist, passionate, s*exy, alluring now its just "last of us with boy" with RYSE SON OF ROME copypasted gameplay mechanics. its boring, generic, uneventful, mind numbing krap that only appeals to NPC BOTS who see the world through "he has a son. I also has a son, me love this game now" pov kratos used to be such a deep, rich and complex character he wanted the voices of his wife and kid to stop screaming in his head and he tried to get revenge for their death.. which he did.. yet the screaming kept coming because even though ares made him mad with anger he was still the one who killeed them with his hands he then tried to off himself and realized thats impossible cause hades controls the "afterlife" he realized that the only way for him to get any peace and quiet is to literally kill all the gods on olympus so that he can finally move on to the ACTUAL AFTER LIFE.. the one that isn't governed by petty gods or titans why dont you tell me the story of the new god of war? he is old, he has a boy, he fights random people and grunts.. wow.. much game.. very character.. and I haven't even mentioned the flawless gameplay of the old trilogy.

[@inunique85]

Exactly, they sold Kratos down the river just so they could grab all the money that these new fetuses will give them. Another great story sold out for money, and of course the newer generations are going to help with that.

[@almogz9486]

This is an absolute strawman of GOW 2018 and a bit of a strawman of the old one. His murder of hades and of many of the other gods wasnt a well thought out logical decision. Ares angered him because of everything he made kratos do and basically enslaving him so he killed him. Zeus betrays him so he hates him the other olympians side with zeus so he feels forced to kill them to get revenge on zeus. Yeah it a bit more complex than that but the way you summerized 2018 shows that you either cant analayze media or are deliberately lying. In 2018 kratos is in hiding he is Afraid of his past and deals with it by hiding it. He unwittingly transfers this fear to his son. This makes him physically ill. Kratos does not realize this and is still unwilling to give his son all the tools to survive the dangers ahead because he is afraid of his son becoming like he was. This crashes down when his son becomes comatose because of this. Kratos then must face his past and allow his son to know who he was. There are a lot more complexities but you dont seem willing to analyze them seriously

[@passingRakz954]

So you tell a whole bunch of his character from the old games but fail to mention more than a sentence from the new one. Lame

[@Satvara_2783]

They just killed it's originality and made it a generic "safe" rpg game similar to assassin's creed. Sad to think of it because every game now a days feels the same 😔