How Goku vs Saitama Would Go | Stick Nodes

It’s here. At long last, it’s here. Goku vs Saitama!
With troubles with editing to not being able to edit it to fixes in the animation itself, this video is long overdue. I really hope you enjoy!
Thank you so much for watching.
Music used(in chronological order):
Saitama’s Theme (Seigi Shikkou)
Dream Tag Match (Dragon Ball Super OST)
Garou vs Bang Theme (Friedrich Habetler)
Birth of a God (Dragon Ball Super OST)
Desperate Plan (Dragon Ball Super OST)
Beerus’ Madness (Dragon Ball Super OST)
Hells Bells(Vegeta’s Theme) (The Enigma TNG)
Garou’s Theme (Friedrich Habetler)
A Formidable Foe (Friedrich Habetler)
A Fearsome Foe (Friedrich Habetler)
The Braveheart’s Return (Dragon Ball Z Kai OST)
I do not own any of it.
Thank you, once again, for watching.

[@NeonhunterCM]

For those of you wondering, Goku’s friends sensed his energy when he turned Super Saiyan and then all of them(except Vegeta) became concerned when they suddenly couldn’t feel it anymore, knowing he went SSG+. As for Gohan stopping those punches? Stay tuned.

[@nettab5827]

Not gohon Goku

[@NeonhunterCM]

@@nettab5827 I’m referring to the end

[@Stupidanimationperson]

Just imagine if saitama just called up Terra 2 saitama somehow if they didn't stop, lol.

[@SonMichael1087]

@@NeonhunterCM it was a fair fight

[@super2750]

This figth need to be in space or Mars

[@CapedBaldyHero]

Man wasn’t he a cool guy! He even invited me to train with him!

[@fangzgaming5510]

Nice!

[@potatosoup8019]

update us on the training sessions pls

[@FaultehBoi]

That guy can be even stronger with a technique called fusion

[@OKKOTSUUSAN]

Challenge me am drip no one can beat me😂

[@eitanmiller9797]

Damn😂

[@Nix2626]

pretty sure that planet would’ve been annihilated before the fight got anywhere

[@Mista_Cassla]

This was very well done, great choice of music too 🔥 I kind wanted to see him go Ultra Instinct but regardless this was pretty entertaining!

[@gamingbattle7774]

gohan nor piccolo can't sense god ki remeber?

[@lefikamakolo7680]

@@gamingbattle7774 oh I remember

[@Batmanrobocop]

Base goku solos saitama tho

[@ANTI_ATHEIST]

@@Batmanrobocop Fax's Its annoying when animations of Goku vs Saitama show Goku struggling against Saitama.

[@Batmanrobocop]

@@ANTI_ATHEIST Fr it doesn't make sense saitama is only star level if you're high balling it he is at least multi planetary the stars he "destroyed" literally came back in the next manga panel like nothing happened

[@Dude-gln]

Ah yes a legendary battle the man with infinite hair vs the man with no hair

[@Fusion_AV]

Lmao

[@GoldenScout-original]

Yes

[@yacavous2onroblox]

nah stolen joke

[@daudkalaev9586]

"(And Avoid Wars In Comments.)" Bro ended entire War💀

[@NeonhunterCM]

😅

[@darlinedovelus8078]

No he broke the fourth wall!

[@YanThePokeBallZHunter]

Bro stopped ww3 from happening just for stopping the fight 💀

[@BeverlyMijimu]

@@NeonhunterCM you think I didn’t see goku don’t claps satiama its the other way around

[@Dragonballzack123]

​@@BeverlyMijimuman shut up

[@dudewithachannel1163]

This is like an old flash cartoon I'd see on stickpage. Great work dude, I wasn't expecting it to be this compact and good

[@The_Lag_Monster]

I think this was a beautiful homage to both characters! Trying to power scale thisnis always going to be subjective. This was a classy way to highlight cool things about both series. Well done!

[@poopfloatackedyourmans1115]

power scaling feats are objective.

[@yagami3933]

Saitama is star buster at max. Goku from even the Frieza saga was borderline solar system to galaxy level (probably more than that based off feats) current Goku is universal if not universal+

[@martiandesertboy]

@@yagami3933saitamas power is literally called limitless he scales when he needs too Goku has died 7 times lmfao he has actually fallen in battle several times and your comparing him to someone whose power is not having a power limit

[@yagami3933]

@@martiandesertboy Saiyans are boundless so they're power adjusts when it needs to as well but in a serious life or death fight, universal+ beings are not letting a solar system level dude get power lmfao. Yeah Goku died 2 times sacrificing himself and the 3rd is a fight with hit but it doesn't count because he revived himself. His deaths dont matter, saitama isnt getting past current Krillin lol

[@demariousclark9829]

That “limitless” is actually not true and not to even be taking seriously. If the gap is close in power then yeah Saitama would win due to progress through battle but if the gap is way too wide he gets washed. Saitama clears only up to the Cell saga but up to that he gets destroyed

[@BLByline]

I’ve seen several versions of this matchup and people always seem to get Saitama’s personality wrong. Like, real saitama would put this fight off for a week, be bored by the concept of fighting just to see who’s stronger, then immediately ask to learn Goku’s secret technique that lets him grow hair, completely ignoring the power changes. Like this would take several exchanges with goku adding power ups each time progressively after saitama unintentionally embarrasses base goku with a stray finger. A week later, goku comes back in ssj form, but saitama still refuses to fight of course, because saitama only wants official hero business and ssj goku is just like this annoying guy from last week only shinier and a little shorter. OPM is a comedy first, focusing on the tropes of shonen anime and stating that they will all fall short of this short, stoic bland looking dude who just wants to do good things.

[@alexzanderblough6264]

Thank you

[@Applespider12]

Exactly like people make Saitama as a bloodthirsty man looking to pick fights I honestly think Goku will need to go blue at the very least before Saitama thinks “oh hey, I kind of felt that lemme actually punch him”

[@OmniDan26]

Headcannon. Saitamas best feat is destroying a few thousand stars. Goku destroys universes in base. Cope.

[@Applespider12]

@@OmniDan26 that’s…literally not true where did you hear that 🫡

[@demariousclark9829]

THANK YOU like people don’t be reading or watching anything nowadays

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

Bro the "I'm already where i punched you to" move is so sick. Classic.

[@Quaders1]

This genuinely deserves alot more likes, views, and Neon deserves more subscribers, this is really clean and really accurate and i respect it, Neon put alot of effort into this and has made it 25 minutes long and enjoyable for us, you are a W animator and you have earned my respect, keep going and i'm sure you will be famous!

[@ryannananananananan6710]

Actually 25:34

[@Gaming_New-win]

Ko ako goku and mn best friend is

[@firstclass000]

Nah he really underrepresented Saitama here. He has more moves than just a punch and he's barely ever angry

[@Solar-h1u]

very true

[@lanaaleksandra4828]

​@@firstclass000 tbh I agree he really overrated saitama it should take goku around 1 singel punch from his base form to decimate saitamas universe 😂

[@shard69]

Goku: how is human so strong?? Saitama: I wish I could have forms of different hair

[@I_PrimeX]

Too bad he has no hair😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@OG_Xitiz]

Bro copied from anime war tf

[@newmon7083]

Just hair in general lol

[@patrickhunterman4633]

He is gonna get a new colored head instead 😂

[@lauralindsay3198]

he just wants hair tbh lol

[@Hassan.anime.]

dude you deserve way more subs man your animations are great, keep up the good work🔥🔥🔥

[@MontyFede007]

24:13 Gohan blocking Saitama punch and Goku ultra instinct punch gave me chills. 💀

[@saifhussain9701]

Sign of the beast😉

[@FaultehBoi]

BEAST SIGN

[@BardockSaiyan-m3p]

true lol

[@ccvegitoccgogeta]

True

[@ccvegitoccgogeta]

And that us not ultra instint is ulta instint sign

[@a180combatbowsergamepro6]

i love how there is actual convo and interaction between them and reactions its alot more realistic than most GvS animations

[@KakarottMUI]

Saitama: Finally a worthy opponent

[@rengoku105]

goku: same here

[@kito6545]

The fact that in the manga there’s saitama vs cosmic garou and saitama becomes stronger than goku if goku killed genos

[@robotictiger5237]

​@@kito6545nah saitama didn't even get that much stronger plus goku is just that guy

[@RandomNycolasOG]

Goku: *"Our Battle will be legendary"*

[@SatoruGojo831]

I agree

[@Loopykoo]

Holy shit this was AMAZING. Such a cool animation, the vfx were phenomenal so was sfx. A genuihe joy to watch🎉🎉🎉

[@FuzionnDaGoat]

By far the best ending to a fight like this. It’s obvious that a lot of anime fans are mad cuz their favorite didn’t win but this was the best ending. If any of the big 3 fought goku (including Saitama) they would All probably befriend each other. No matter who’s the strongest they all are too similar to hate one another

[@NeonhunterCM]

This guy gets it ☝🏾

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

For real that's what i'd always tell my buddies was "They would never fight anyway unless it was for fun" so it doesnt really matter who's stronger.

[@1Pidds]

​Tell me in what scenario Goku and Saitama (and Luffy for that matter) would get into a fight to the death I'd maybe get if it was Vegeta (depending on the saga) but Saitama and Goku are just fighting for the fun and thrill of it

[@nekhros_z]

When ppl do a vs battle it’s both of them fully bloodlusted all the time. Their character is not taken into account

[@maxfriendsyt3252]

@@NeonhunterCM u say that but even at the end u still said Goku claps tho

[@PlayerX707]

Saitama: Wanna go eat? Goku:YEAH! *Satama and Goku celebrate*

[@celinahernandez982]

Lol

[@mercyrico2784]

wow

[@Dandaigaa]

Anyone who watched and read both manga would know these mfs would throw Hands before becoming friends 🤦‍♂️

[@Emil_isfun]

After fighting become friends I like that

[@TopMarkplazy]

​@@Dandaigaa yep

[@Crimson_Screwball3446]

Honestly, i feel like goku and Saitama would just become buds and help each-other grow stronger; Saitama would tell goku how he got stronger and maybe Goku would do it just to try it out, and they would probably spar often just to feel a rush. Both would just be bros. If anyone says that "No, one of them has to win (insert baby crying sfx)" Just remember that getting in either one of their way; you are gonna be nothing but a stain on the floor. If they wanna become friends and not actually kill one another, then by god they can do that. Who's gonna stop them? Not me.

[@justcrazy2548]

glad to know that someone shares the same opinion as me.

[@KingXyroVI]

That makes more sense especially since Saitamas dream is looking for a rival and Goku just wants to be the strongest and while they're fighting they'll definitely admire each other and become friends and train together

[@junkyatv]

Only thing is that Goku's training is thousands of times that of Saitama's. Let's just face it - Saitama is some type of mysterious being himself. No one else would become like him.

[@Crimson_Screwball3446]

@@junkyatv funny thing is, I wanna see Goku try saitama's workout, and he just fucking loses all of his hair.

[@KingXyroVI]

@junkyatv true but you know they'll become friends same with Vegeta and Broly

[@The_ruler-x7k]

Best animation ever!

[@Kyolk-xh2ju]

This video is so underrated. 10/10

[@mmmyo309]

Excellent video, the pacing, the choreography and the personality in the characters are top tier!

[@nothing_here.5]

Congratulations to the cameraman for being unnoticed by every single person there and staying alive with 0.1% of his power

[@wassapM8]

I think it was 0.001% but still accurate

[@HobbitWithABlunt7079]

The *real* strongest opponent, the CameraMan

[@rylanhaas8736]

Next episode Saitama and Goku vs THE CAMERAMAN

[@Alan-zy9kc]

Well, he's in the third dimension 🤓

[@tmanf]

Well the camera man has survived the Big Bang multiple times so yeah probably true

[@REALGolden_Noob]

Keep up the good work!

[@Antoniotheyt]

Beerus:Don't care didn't ask i just want my food

[@brunosampaio3893]

Bro It was a masterpiece. Congrats for your good and hard work you put in there.🎉

[@gigav1nce569]

The ending is beautiful i wish all the endings would be like this

[@beverlysablada7378]

My heart rn: 22:55

[@hasanesam6115]

Nice animation 👍

[@arboxan5871]

I honestly feel that your opinions correct, you feel like a fan on both sides so I felt this could be a live representation. But even then this video was amazing and excellent, it was done incredibly and I would definitely watch more. 😂❤

[@AMemeFromHeaven]

I’ve always been a good fan of goku more than saitama but I think this is how it would go too

[@destiny6080]

Y'all are hilarious, your only saying this because you want to appeal both to opm fans and DB Fans, be realistic base super Goku is solos Saitama. Do some research.

[@AMemeFromHeaven]

@@destiny6080 you can’t let people be happy? Plus your a month late obv goku would win but nobody cares, it’s a tv show it has nothing to do to affect my life damn

[@arboxan5871]

@@destiny6080 I barley can even get likes on my comment I don’t expect to appeal anybody. I’m just writing a comment, if you’re mad then go away because honestly you’re just gonna upset people more than making them change their mind, it won’t help.

[@arboxan5871]

@@AMemeFromHeaven honestly, it is a show I don’t get why people get so mad over it.

[@evenrolls]

16:09 That combo was sick!

[@princecmh3803]

That was the combo jiren did to goku

[@martigarciaferrer759]

23:47 that one bluetooth attack was great XD Greet comment: Bro you’re so good at this, i liked so much your animation. I also like that nobody won, because the people would litterally shut your channel down in insults xD

[@BigBlackhole]

"Your Bluetooth device is ready to compare" ah punch

[@va54siddarth76]

I think so thats the pressure of air that feel like a punch because goku punched so hard that he created a sonic boom

[@brenton4527]

I love at how the end the act like nothing happened and go eat som food😂😂

[@kailef]

That was extremely well done. I enjoyed every minute of it. Also, I agree with your conclusion with regard to who the victor would be.

[@ChunkyKong1311]

I literally cannot agree more with this, perfection!

[@NoctusDusk]

You did an amazing job! Keep up the great work! This was fantastic~

[@LordSeraph999]

I love how UI Goku was animated. Really gives off the power and skill he has.

[@Diamondsword85_RS]

Scientifically, if fictional characters such as these two punched each other, it could create a ripple through the space time fabric, causing a temporary gravitational force so strong the entire earth could cave in towards them, and possibly more.

[@Diamondsword85_RS]

I haven't actually done this math and I don't intend on doing so but it's just a theory

[@fjhakjwfnwfge]

🤓

[@garcondy]

Bro but a nerd emoji when bro is probably 7 and has the smartness of a 4 yr

[@huntervander3333]

I love this thank you for making this equaling them in a fight to how they are instead of how the fan base wants them to be. Thank you.

[@kennethanderson1550]

Bro Saitama is barely solar system lvl....gotanks from buu saga is over kill

[@huntervander3333]

@@kennethanderson1550 Satima directed his power at Garou if he was actually aiming to destroy the solar system he can

[@kennethanderson1550]

@@huntervander3333 that's why I said he's barely solar system😅😂😂😂😂

[@kennethanderson1550]

@@huntervander3333 not in one go now, that power and waves was not just saitama but garou also contributed too....they're both weaklings compared to buu saga gotanks 😂😂😂😂

[@huntervander3333]

@@kennethanderson1550 everyone has seen dragon ball characters, destroy planets for fun, but have you ever seen Satima actually try to destroy a planet, purposely like dragon ball characters do? No.

[@Ralph-f8q]

This is pure cinematic perfection, 100/10, bro, please make another vídeo like this one

[@Ralph-f8q]

This should be a movie, ngl

[@WhiteTiger950]

Great ending! "Wanna go eat? " "Yeah! "

[@Gbj0kes_]

22:29 Damn that was fire!

[@kamikeserpentail3778]

That was an interesting and fun interpretation. If I recall anything correctly, I think Saitama wouldn't try to kill unless his opponent was a monster. And Goku wants a good fight so badly, he sometimes carelessly puts people at risk and that could be considered monstrous. In that case, Saitama represents limitless power, and he just wins. He simply can't lose because he's a joke character spoof of Goku and being unbeatable is kind of the point. But Goku represents limitless potential. He has lost several times, died several times, but he always comes back stronger. This is why I think he would lose, because he usually does at least the first time around. But the rematch would be more interesting. And each subsequent rematch would be more crazy. It would basically be Saitama becoming slightly more serious each time, as Goku becomes absurdly powerful. Goku never wins, but he absolutely enjoys the challenge. It's the endless approach to infinity vs infinity.

[@81AK3_B]

yea and in the manga it said that Saitama limiter is broken so if you get stronger then him then his power will get more powerful then yours. But like you said Goku has the same thing so its a battle that will never end.

[@jorgec2233]

I was looking for this comment and I didn't stop until I found someone who thought like me.

[@alessandrosilvafilho8527]

They basically become the destructors of all existence

[@Big-O-elmo-fd6fk]

True..

[@luisjcjhgagl]

goku super infinite

[@bottleness965]

i love that genos just appeared out of nowhere

[@Zombie5on]

amazing animation, I love every bit of it. the only complaint that i have is the punches didn't feel accurate. what i mean is, the punches should of done more destruction near the end since in the anime, he barely tried and destroyed a whole mountain with just the wind he created. everything else is pretty good, keep it up.

[@Alper69420]

Nice beat you made there 22:56

[@MMIII-xf6ge]

I honestly believe this interpretation more than any other. After seeing some of Saitama's and Goku's feats, I believe it would go like this. Though not many large craters were made that's hard to animate I'm sure. Amazing animation.

[@theboysmember6961]

Saitama is barely even universal Goku is low multi versal, and saitamas highest strength feat is planetary

[@gyver8448]

@@theboysmember6961 Nah. Saitama's best feats are multi-solar system. MAYBE multi-galaxy, but that's an extremely high end wank of his power and only if you want to specifically high ball him. Either way his feats aren't even in the same league.

[@player_dontmess8205]

@@gyver8448I mean the manga only has like below 200 chapters, meanwhile dbz has had probably 17 arcs

[@player_dontmess8205]

@@gyver8448You need to give saitama some time lol

[@gyver8448]

@@player_dontmess8205 Oh I know. Doesn't change that his best feats are multi-solar though. That will no doubt change in future.

[@p.georgie]

12:40 Vegeta with that Android¹⁸PTSD instant reaction when Genos pulls up. 🦾💀

[@lplenny]

Thank you for making this. This is probably how it would go involving plot armor. This was a really enjoyable animation! I was so annoyed by all these Goku vs Saitama edits where one gets all the points and a wikipedia page of explanation that makes no sense but this one is exactly how I imagined it to be. Both shows are amazing and there is no need to hate on Goku or Saitama for no reason.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Unfortunately Goku would be winning in base for the entire first part if it goes on long enough Saitama would catch up to base

[@howcanihelpyou.]

@@Neuvillete4.6 in base? i think thats a bit of a stretch

[@BlackJack32.]

@@howcanihelpyou. nah dawg low-multiversal destruction is not a laughing matter

[@lplenny]

@@Neuvillete4.6 Don't say that. We won't argue in the replies of my comment

[@howcanihelpyou.]

@@BlackJack32. The thing with me is that I base my assessments on feats, which demonstrate the extent of a character's power. While it is often claimed that Goku can easily destroy planets and even galaxies with a flick of his finger, there is almost no concrete evidence to support this assertion. It's like me creating a character that is essentially a rock and claiming that his strength, speed, and durability are infinite, which would automatically make him stronger than Goku.

[@SnowyFreakZ]

Love the animation! and i see you going places keep up the great work!

[@Milo_Blox251]

Everyone : yo this is a cool stick node fight Me : The music is Banger.

[@THEGREATSAIYAMAN467]

the way baldy said bye got me n the floor like "bye..." its just so funny.

[@RenAgena30]

A man that changes his hair style vs the guy that has none is a perfect battle

[@kanzomicapcut]

everyone is debating who would win, when, in my opinion they would probably actually be extremely good friends.

[@TopMarkplazy]

As a Watcher and Reader they would fight first before becoming friends bcuz of Goku personality and Saitama Wish

[@yeahimfemi]

Why’s no one talking bout 24:36…. My man being dead honest “avoid war in the comments”

[@Bread_NOT_Toast]

I think this is a really good animation and the power scaling was pretty accurate.

[@Frieza1275]

It wasn't but anything for a good fight

[@Aelda69]

Goku is currently Universal in base. He would have to lower his power by massive amounts to be on Saitama's level. In fact, Goku wouldn't even have to transform. Saitama stated that he was going "all-out" against Garou, and that is the case, then Goku could just look at him and kill him. Also, in terms of speed... We're talking about a character that covered an infinite space in a finite amount of time, which would give Goku inaccessible speed or immeasurable speed.

[@Bread_NOT_Toast]

Ok

[@Sen-gaming-q9n]

@@Aelda69garou had the powers of a god and basically had the power of the space time continuum,meaning that is not the case

[@Diamond-v9]

​@@Sen-gaming-q9nOPM glazers when they don't watch even the ANIME.

[@waiem2023]

Im amazed by your talent, i didnt know such master pieces could be made on Stick nodes. And i believe the fight could go like this as well

[@PrincePalmUwU]

Honestly the best ending and accurate among anime in general.

[@carlosrieum1526]

Not accurate at all, but fun. Honestly Goku would use SSJ at MOST to win

[@G_gamer17]

I love how he included all the classic DBZ stuff like Goku literally going through his transformations without realising the next one still won't be enough till he reaches UI and the thought monologues its brilliant W guy

[@derek1734]

All that and still completely missed all the OPM stuff like omnidirectional serious punch or even serious table flip. I already knew how the fight was going to play out sadly, either a win for goku or a “stalemate”. They didn’t even give saitama any of his moves despite this being made recently. It’s almost as if bro still thinks saitama is the same from when he fought boros.

[@dd22koopaesverde58]

​@@derek1734 idk how many time take to do the animations i really would like the new moves of saitama except the table flip would destroy the earth

[@Vaihly]

​@@derek1734 im pretty sure those moves are specific and improvised. While yes Saitama CAN use them, he never really put some thought into those moves or have any importance to them unlike Goku where his forms are very important to him.

[@Vaihly]

​@@derek1734 besides on a scaling standpoint Goku is the more likely to win.

[@nattevans9810]

​@@Vaihlydont even need super saiyan for it

[@ErisEntropy]

Wow, really nice animation! You did a good job having a compelling narrative. I feel like the dialogue was decent, just the phrasing was a bit odd, kinda out of character at times. The winner in this fight would be dependant entirely on the writer, but off of feats alone Goku is far stronger, faster, more technically skilled and more experienced. As for potential, Saitama almost definitely wins out. We just don't know the full extent of his power.

[@tamerudition]

Genuine understanding of and appreciation for both worlds, inspired soundtrack realignment, and the visual effect at 22:28?... Fucking gorgeous!

[@flamingmanure]

laughable understanding of dbz world though, considering goku couldve destroyed entire solar systems several times over, while OPM can barely handle destroying a planet even when he gets angry or serious. even goku at base form now would rip opms arms off.

[@KeyofFaTe13]

​@flamingmanure umm Saitama punched countless stars away legit made a hole in space. Is he as strong as goku no but my guy you the one with laughable understanding of OPM. I definitely don't think he could beat kaioken x20 goku but saying he'd get mopped by base goku is not realistic at all

[@da5728]

​@@KeyofFaTe13king vegeta raised his hand and 3 planets was destroyed. Dbz Piccolo after goku and raditz's death easily destroyed the moon when kid gohan transformed into the great ape. Dragon ball (when goku was just a kid) full power roshi destroyed the moon when goku turned into a great ape. Yamcha in dbs is definitely more powerful by like a hundred thousand times stronger than them and theres goku whos also 100k more powerful than yamcha. Also goku that had the ssjg ritual performed on him absorbed it and has god ki in his base form making him like universe level in base.

[@gyver8448]

@@da5728 Nah. Yamcha has no feats since the battle with the Saiyans. The best potential indication for him puts him at around planetary because Android 19 mistook him for Goku, keeping in mind his most recent data on Goku at that point was during the Saiyan invasion. Meaning his strength had to be somewhere around that range for the mistake to be believable. Keep in mind, Yamcha basically stopped training after that. So he's probably weaker now.

[@tomarrow956]

Love when Goku turned into super saiyan blue and the music from season 2 opm turns on so awesome

[@intetx]

You made this very well! I like both animes! One is a story of someone having to struggle coming to terms with always being the best. If someone is about to reach his level, he surpasses it multiple times. The other is a story about someone being able to break any limit. It's the literal immovable object vs unstoppable force. It would not end without them deciding to. Saitma could probably tire Goku out at some point but he does not need much time at all to recover and would not truly be a win. Goku could just teleport Saitama into fuck nowhere space and he would not find his way back or have enough farts anyways to do anything about it, but he would never do that to him, so this will end when they decide it to.

[@11thDC]

This is a reasonable interpretation, but at the same time, Goku vs Saitama is similar to the Goku Vs Superman arguement in that like Superman, Saitama is founded on a defining ideal Goku is all about a "human" struggle with pushing past one's limits to overcome adversity. much like you said. Superman is an ideal of morals. An idea cannot be defeated by physical combat and willpower. Superman is always as strong as he needs to be in order to accomplish the narrative or message that the author desires to share. Saitama is the same, he is defined as "One Punch Man" the whole idea, the whole foundation of his world and character is based on the fact that he is just infinitely stronger than is needed. So I've always been of the mindset that Goku vs either Superman or Saitama is pointless, much like your argument, "unstoppable force meets immovable object" It's more a matter of "fists vs thought" if that makes sense. it's two completely different concepts to be built off of, and as a result the two are truly incomparable in any quantifiable way. Side note: Boros is meant to be OPM's reflection of Goku. so In a way, OPM has shown us that Goku vs Saitama is no contest :P

[@jpdicey789]

​@@11thDCInteresting interpretation, but not really sold, Goku vs Superman is a separate argument but assuming Goku has reached multiversal + by our Universe standards I think he might be able to give him a run for his money if he can't win, it might be closer than people think, but I would have look more carefully at Superman's best feats to be sure. As for Goku vs Saitama a lot of powerscalers seem to think that based on feats Goku scales above Saitama, but you could argue that Saitama's growth isn't finished yet and that fight might be closer than people think aswell. As for what you said about fists vs thought I sort of disagree, freedom from the control and restrictions of thought is itself held up as an ideal e.g breaking through your limits and you could argue that Goku doesn't just do it to get stronger because he's battle crazy lol he also wants to protect his friends and family. A lot of people disagree with how he is portrayed in Super e.g being retarded and not getting how meditation can further his growth but then having and using Ultra Instinct would obviously make him view it that way since Ultra Instinct means your body's movement isn't necessarily restricted by thought, the technique/form just has limitations lol His fight with Jiren in the anime definitely shows you that protecting those closest to him is very important to him aswell, so to imply that he doesn't share that ideal isn't an interpretation I would say that I agree with. I would say that the idea that Goku is just about fists and not also about an ideal is a distorted interpretation and any arguments about scale fall short. It seems to me that what you're really saying is that it is about the value one holds within their heart and the perception of a commitment to an ideal but if that was the case then Goku could never beat 17 since 17 gave up his dream of a big cruise ship for his family to bring back the other Universes and you can't get much more committed to ideals than that, but we know that Goku would win because main character plot armour lol he's only given the GoD's and Angels as a bar to pass to give the audience hunger for that expectation. All these characters have limits but that is what is part of what makes them appealing and makes you want to see them break their limits. Nobody really wants a perfect hero because it would be seen as fake since it's human nature to aspire to that which is in at least some way relatable. And what is the point of adversity if there is none? Saitama is the perfect example of a comedic and ironic take on people's expectations when it comes to how they're psychologically wired when it comes to heroes. People want suspense and drama, you don't get so much of that if the hero pretty much always ends his fights with a single punch lol Infact it's a reversal of the expectation, instead placing it upon the shoulders of the antagonist or villain to meet the bar set by the hero lol problem is I think people are generally more psychologically geared towards a hero who struggles than a hero who always wins lol but that is what I think makes Saitama a comedic and ironic interpretation of that!

[@11thDC]

nono, I am saying ideals from their design. not in character. Goku is breaking through limits he could theoretically just keep getting stronger and stronger. but ideals are not limited. which is why I said Superman and Saitama, who are founded on ideals, inherently have no limits. with no limits, there is nothing for Goku to break past. Its why Goku can beat some versions of superman, but not the character as a whole. because some versions were defined with limits. but only in their respective stories. Saitama's whole ideal is he's so impossibly strong he beats everything in one punch. That isn't some limit. even in canon he is designed as being unlimited. It's why some Death Battle videos are just not good. because they strictly compare abilities and stats. while mostly ignoring the contextual and meta narrative elements that define a character or even a specific scenario they cited for one of their arguments. Does this make more sense? I am not always the best at communicating what I am trying to say. And yes, Saitama is exactly a you said, it's a parody, and it expertly handles the subversion of expectations. I feel the strength of it, is while Saitama is the MC, and he beats every villain with one punch. the story and struggles of breaking limits is in the people around him, and how he affects them by being there. It's why OPM is so good. Without the supporting cast, the story wouldn't work for as long as it did. @@jpdicey789

[@jpdicey789]

@@11thDC Interesting and it's cool I understand what you were saying, what I'm saying really is that I disagree with the premise. Tbf I used to think Saitama didn't have set limits and was basically just a gag character, but then someone showed me a scan of his fight with awakened Garou who basically made him go all out from what I understand. Now maybe you could argue that the narrative of the story means they will shift the goalpost for his power like the DB Super manga has with Beerus but from what I understood based off of current feats you can't really scale him above Goku, definitely not anime Goku since characters in Z like Boohan were already displaying Universal plus feats and from what I understand the shockwaves Goku and Beerus were making were enough to destroy the afterlife (which is apparently much larger than the Universe in Dragonball lore) not just the Universe known by the living, will that change? Probably, since in all fairness you could argue Saitama and Goku as possibly relative like in this video, since feats alone can be somewhat ambiguous at times. But an ideal could also be seen as plot armour for a character e.g the character is an ideal because of their overall merit despite both failing and achieving since both are part of a bigger struggle. I think if you were to say that the character is a moving goalpost the metaphor would work better since an ideal can arguably still be context dependent e.g an ideal doesn't necessarily have to be impractical but I guess others would argue that as more of a standard. I find it difficult to see it that way though since an ideal is ones conception of what is perfect in this context which can be argued as subjective since one person's perfect can be another's standard e.g what is most ideal is arguably most suitable, hence the word idealistic. The point being that I see an overlap contextually there since what they can do overlaps with what they will do as characters, anyway thankyou for a thought provoking response.

[@GuyLogen]

​​​@@jpdicey789Saitama's fight with Garou only shows that Saitama has no limits though. Before that fight we thought Saitama had unlimited strength that he releases slowly depending on the situation. But instead, the fight shows us that Saitama had a "soft limit" but no ceiling and therefore can scale forever (his power was spiking after each punch and seemed to only stop because Garou couldn't keep up anymore). Plus his durability was so strong that he never took damage at any point. They even had a graph to show how Saitama and Garou scaled power wise in the manga. Garou was high ball universe level since God gave him the power to "understand and control any power in the universe". So Garou had a predefined limit while Saitama just kept growing until even Garou couldn't see a way to catch up to him. And at that point Garou was able to copy any move just by looking at it (how he copied hyperspace gates and nuclear fists instantly).

[@GhostsideerOnRoblox]

17:00 That music is very dense in the background, thoughts are goin wild rn 😮

[@Checho-gk2km]

Definitivamente el cine ganó, que gran animación que gran pela, estos si son crossovers

[@Drangball]

That was the coolest video ever

[@lleytonmhaka440]

Keep making good content don’t let the haters rude comments get to you.

[@Time2ChiLL223]

Pov:trying to find the rude comments

[@xenanims6565]

Rude comments saitama solos

[@ErdemtugsC]

​@@Time2ChiLL223turns out there ALMOST isnt

[@th33clipse]

I like the way this turned out, both goku and Saitama would've been great allys in the end.

[@Ezra_animation]

I'm a stick nodes animator too! Except you are 1000000X better than me I've never been so amazed!

[@SonGoku-vc5jr]

I loved this fight. I hope we can do more next time.

[@hashiragamers9321]

Ew role-playing get tf off😂

[@Lagene2k]

We not gon talk about how gohan just casually stopped both of their attacks

[@AMemeFromHeaven]

I was finna say that exact thing

[@ronnietheram]

wow, only 5k subs? dude you deserve a hundred times more than that!! this is amazing!!!! the animation is a bit rough at parts, especially when it’s getting reused for tens seconds on end, but other than that its amazing! and having the other characters come in so theres actually more story to it is great! i really liked how vegeta just pep talked goku into ultra instinct lol, reminded me of when he spoke to goku on namek while he was drowning and made him go kaioken x20. the whole fight was great and not too one-sided (except for when goku was below ssg and when was in ultra instinct) which was great, and the conclusion was very nice and in-character since thats totally a reason beerus would stop the fight in the anime lol. lastly, great picks for the music choices! overall an 8/10 for me, and you gained a new subscriber! cant wait to see how you improve in the future :’), and maybe even when youre better at animating you could make an awesome and flashy sequel!! :D

[@monster-vv1to]

@Programmer_Guy1442 cc goku:

[@AdrijanoJ]

​@Programmer_Guy1442 *the Box

[@spyalbastru]

blud wrote a paragraph for an shitty made goku animation get a life

[@Enigma4270]

You did such a good job on this, spectacular stickmanship!

[@axelsalassa]

Seeing this guy animate so good in stick nodes makes me want to animate too…. The problem is I don’t have the app.

[@Yan23459]

You can use the free version

[@princecmh3803]

Goku - Fighting to push his limits. Saitama - Fighting to reach his limits.

[@miguelangelocaneda2625]

Saiyan has no limit and Saitama has infinity limit

[@Pebcusyes]

Its called potiential

[@carlosrieum1526]

​@@miguelangelocaneda2625both have inf potential

[@user-ht4zl9im5n]

​@@carlosrieum1526no

[@The_honored_one2222]

Copied comment from another vid 😒

[@NotAFunGie]

I like how saitama shows the same amount of shock when somebody can withstand his punch that normal characters do when they can’t land a scratch on their opponent

[@isaacphangyunjierosythsch]

cosother characters have to try which is why its so realistiic that ANYONE is beating saitama in equalised stats. he hasn't fought against someone his strength in 3 years

[@Blitz_Animates]

Awesome animation! It must’ve took a long time for it to be this long with sticknodes!

[@MegularoRBLX]

I like how they both start to learn each others tricks and start to adapt to them

[@NJustBeingN]

Do you know this was amazing and a masterpiece If anybody says that this is trash I disagree and if the whole world disagrees I'm against the world I loved this it was amazing😊

[@Zenitsulover0]

Goku and saitama: 🤝 Their fans:,⚔️

[@Arrayfort]

This was probably slowed down so much, thinking about how strong they both are.

[@snesanimeedits3573]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS HOW TO END THIS WAR!! LITERALLY MY OPINION AS A VIDEO! KEEP UP THE WORK MAN, YOU DESERVE WAYYY MORE THAN YOU ALREADY HAVE! 💯💯💯

[@Gamer-wo1st]

End the war? That shit was so inaccurate Base Goku would one shot saitama yall really need to start doing research

[@snesanimeedits3573]

@@Gamer-wo1st I've done more than enough research to know that what you have said is absolute bs, sorry to be the one to tell you that 😁

[@Masked_Animations-]

​@@snesanimeedits3573whats your research??

[@snesanimeedits3573]

@@Masked_Animations- If you really wanna know, I follow dbz and opm manga ( *not only these ofc I follow other mangas aswell* ) , I research about any change in power levels of the anime characters im most hyped about every day, I follow the anime of the animes I haven't done much research on ( *I mainly focus on the ones I haven't watched too much of* ) but I also cover up opm , dbz , one piece , demon slayer , AOT etc. in that, + I follow Akira Toriyamas' socials and Yusuke Muratas' socials to keep up with them, and sometimes I do like a total of a 6.5 to 7 hour research on different animes on weekends. *Happy?*

[@Masked_Animations-]

@@snesanimeedits3573 no like show me the fruits of your research, explain why its accurate

[@mdbgamer556]

It isn't quite as smooth an animation as some I've seen, but it's pretty great regardless! You've got a lot of potential to go really far! :D

[@NeonhunterCM]

Thank you very much! I’m definitely still growing but I aim to make each animation better than the last in one way or another. Thank you for this comment! It means a lot to me

[@mdbgamer556]

@@NeonhunterCM Glad to be here so early into your career!

[@BL00DYMERCURY]

a better way to showcase this fight is to actually get their strengths down. a big problem most animators do is not show the actual power in a punch. If this was a real battle between the two, a punch from saitama would make rocks in the vicinity turn to dust.

[@firstclass000]

Exactly

[@TheRealHoltzy]

As much power as he decides to put behind it tbh.

[@BL00DYMERCURY]

@@TheRealHoltzy then it's not accurate. Tbh.

[@mrme.484]

So you want the universe to be destroyed in 3 punches?

[@firstclass000]

@@mrme.484 that won't happen

[@tghjkn623]

this is very good i watched the whole vid and its amazing i cant lie so this vid needs to get to 1million likes

[@kami1945ww1]

I like how Gohan just effortlessly stop them both

[@Chris_HT]

Beast Gohan 💀

[@1lred]

I mean he is stronger than his father

[@roscoepretlowiv7959]

​@@1lrednah

[@1lred]

bruh gohan is proved to be stronger than goku@@roscoepretlowiv7959

[@roscoepretlowiv7959]

@@1lred It won't stay like that is what I'm getting at

[@jonah099_gd_official]

If there was an actual canon to Goku vs Saitama, they would probably or definitely come to a tie and become friends

[@bananawithpajamas6379]

Well they would become friends but if Goku actuslly uses full power he wins

[@TheSupremeGamer503]

@@bananawithpajamas6379……. yea ok buddy.

[@bananawithpajamas6379]

@@TheSupremeGamer503 is that like a no

[@TheSupremeGamer503]

@@bananawithpajamas6379 afraid so.

[@ghostslord-23]

@@TheSupremeGamer503 my guy limitless or not, saitama is galaxy level at best goku in BoG is UNI

[@goofy_mancuandaldinglebottum]

18:16 bro hit faster than my dad leaving with the milk💀💀💀💀💀

[@Sanatani_sam-p2k]

🤨

[@Spider_l-q3z]

If u watch the video in 2x speed it’s really Cool! (not trying to say neonhunters vid is slow I’m saying that (to me) it looks better in 2x speed) without 2x speed it’s still coo! I recommend watching it in 2x speed that’s all.

[@jimjamjon2285]

0:12 This is literally what would happen since that's the ENTIRE JOKE about Saitama.

[@neerman407]

He’s called “one punch man” for a reason

[@letmebackinrobloxnow7980]

No

[@Adminboy812YT]

All forms: Base 0:23 Ssj 0:41 Ssj2 1:14 Ssjg 2:09 Ssjgss(ssjb) 4:16 SsjgssKK 6:51 SsjgssKKX20 9:03 Epic ending of UI 20:21

[@jladon9346]

All Forms Are:Base-FSSJ-SSJ-SSJ2-SSJ3-SSJ4-SSJ5(Canon)-SSJB-SSJBKX10-UI-MUI-MUI 3(Canon)

[@FuntimeFreddy47821]

@@jladon9346 The last isn’t canon tho☠️

[@jladon9346]

@@FuntimeFreddy47821 The Ones That Were Canon is:SSJ5-MUI 3

[@okami1272]

Yo where are the Saitama forms? Oh wait…

[@spyalbastru]

sex form

[@samurairowe6486]

And also here’s another tip that y’all already talked about who solos Goku or saitama but I don’t know who solo bc the thing is I watch the dragon ball super Goku broke his limits and became ultra instinct because he has pure heart and always fight to push his limits to be powerful Now in the other hand of saitama he already broke his limits but as a human but have y’all ever seen the thing that saitama had never gotten serious in his verse he looked bored depressed and emotional that he never had fun in his life same as saitama vs Boros he serious punched him but he never looked like he was serious he just wanted to save earth for everyone to be saved but maybe in some other seasons about saitama in anime it might show how powerful he really is when he is serious and having real fun but right now he ain’t serious at this time in the opm anime so if they show how powerful he is then we might know who actually solos it’s y’all already put a Goku vs saitama saying who solos like y’all really tryna see who really solo in their verse and never saw how powerful saitama really is and I am NOT talking about manga cuz I know y’all saw how powerful he was in manga but In anime no so uh thanks for hearing this and I better not see NO HATE COMMENTS JUST BC I SAID THIS (and eventually one of y’all gonna say who asked? I just know it)and also PIN ME or I’m gonna make you gooble up a banana for the rest of your life 😈

[@LailMarcellin]

Ayo

[@OmniKit]

Saitama in the manga did get serious.

[@adomyyt8173]

Can you read he said not the manga he said the anime #OMNIKIT

[@amanysoliman3192]

😢

[@truesledadoom]

Anime Saitama is obviously Planetary level, as it's just webcomic saitama who stated to be wipe out Earth easily. Manga Saitama is more like Fanmade. I personally don't really like that either.

[@Matgamer-lp1zi]

Honestly, I dont even know how this guy doesn’t at least have 700k subs with his animation skills

[@16Hazards]

Man this is so accurate. I’m tired of beef about Goku vs Saitama. Why can’t it just be Goku and Saitama Being Best Of Friends. At the end of the day they have the most in common.

[@Skellyking]

because the argument is whos stronger

[@GodzillaSandwhich8111]

Going based off of feats and scaling Goku does take this very easily in just SSJ. But nice animation

[@ZeroTheInfiltrator]

POV: Your mother drinked alcohol when she was pregnant

[@GodzillaSandwhich8111]

@@ZeroTheInfiltrator POV: your mom did crack cocaine while pregnant and went to many drinking parties

[@GodzillaSandwhich8111]

@@ZeroTheInfiltrator Krillin from the T.O.P outscales Saitama as every side to main character in DBS is universal and higher at a minimum

[@ZeroTheInfiltrator]

@@GodzillaSandwhich8111 And then saitama raises his hands..

[@GodzillaSandwhich8111]

@@ZeroTheInfiltrator and then Cabba makes his appearance, yeah that's right I'm saying Cabba beats Saitama.

[@kingcandy2185]

😮Gohan... is he breaking the fourth-wall?

[@darkbeetlebot]

Glad someone finally understood both characters for once instead of treating it like a dick measuring contest.

[@e.m.4738]

1. Saitamas Powerlevel is always growing when he fights someone or something more powerful. Thats the reason why he is the one punch man. If you ask me, his power lvl would grow in a fight with kakarot, so strong that he could easily destroy jupiter with 1 punch... 😅 Its not like the "Death" Punch has a fixed scale. It all scales with his power lvl. So you can only imagine, what enemies he must have fought in the time after his training and before the anime's first fight begun. ^^,

[@jeremiahwilson9717]

#Facts and although I think they nailed goku spot on with his gradual power ups

[@randomnpc5777]

You get it, at the start of the fight would be like cosmic Garou fight, where Goku thinks he can win with ssj blue and ultra instinct and then the next second Saitama upgrade his power to the point where a sneeze was enough to defeat most stronger version of ultra instinct

[@samuelalmonte8803]

@@randomnpc5777 the sneeze no where near enough to even beat an ssj, it was stated by whis that beerus destroyed 2 suns before on accident after sneezing. also goku almost destroyed the universe which was said by the the narratar. it was also stated that during early z that frieza had enough power to destroy the universe and cell was also stated to be able to destroy the universe. Saitama biggest feat was a destroying a bunch of stars in a clash so he is only about high multi solar system lvl, while goku is multiversal. goku would literally one shot in base currently since now he has god ki from the god form.

[@syahmifahim_2022]

How Goku vs Saitama go? Me thinking: be friendship forever!

[@Slamscape]

I’m far more a DB fan than OPM, But by going of the fight Saitama had in his manga, he wouldn’t be able to loose. Not until he is shown to have any sort of limit that can be exploited. Because instantly becoming stronger than someone who is constantly matching your own strength at every strike… that’s a growth that dwarfs anything in the DB universe.

[@FlintyMint]

Thank you for finally putting into words what every Saitama favorer needs to say to end the pointless Goku vs saitama arguments instantly.

[@shiba3996]

What about Roshi getting unvigintillions of times stronger during the tournament of power? Literally went from moon level to hundreds of times universal without even training, as shown by him dodging attacks from jiren that even blue goku couldn't. Or what about krillin suddenly pushing goku to use blue despite not having any sort of transformations and slacking on training for years. Sure you can argue bad writing, but it still happened, so these kinda jumps definitely exist in db.

[@Slamscape]

@@shiba3996 suppression. There have been times such as vegeta telling Jiren he was a lot stronger and faster against goku moments ago and that he’s holding back. Fighters in super are constantly holding back. Especially in ssjb form. Hell, ssjb kk goku had a beam struggle with Bergamo while he was only using power he took from regular ssj goku.

[@AMemeFromHeaven]

This is true, but goku is simply too strong in his base form either way

[@FlintyMint]

Goku can get stronger and stronger. Saitamas power has no limit as of thus far, so no matter how much stronger Goku gets, it will still be limited. You might say Goku reaches new limits every time he gets stronger, but against a character who is limitless, it just doesn’t do anything.

[@BatallaDeUniversos]

I am also animating that fight with Stick Nodes. I hope it comes out as good as yours.