How Good Are The Characters In 2XKO?

[@lordknightfgc]

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[@SOSLO1324]

Finally a tier list. The characters I play - not top tier. Characters I face - Undisputed top 1 and 2.

[@jackg6887]

thats how top tiers work my guy

[@SOSLO1324]

@@jackg6887 yet people still have characters I play as top tier which is objectively wrong.

[@gonogg]

ty for this comment, no longer need to watch video

[@myboy_]

Good thing it's an alpha

[@evilded2]

DAY NEGATIVE 200 TIER LIST BABY!

[@dLzzzgaming]

Fgc is crazy

[@TrueDemonDragon]

Further notes on Illaoi, the tentacles also allow for a full combo when she is off screen from hard knockdowns and grabs when the opponents in the area of the tentacle which, as you mention has a scaling bug along with most grabs into combos and Ahri’s back assist Weakness is she losses to retreating guard rather easily, in the corner she loses to push block ALOT because it allows for her set up to be hit if she doesn’t immediately call it out with 4.S1 Also unlike Darius her big buttons function like Sim from SF where her long button have a hurtbox

[@TheLegendaryZed]

No views. I've never been first. It's my time. Thanks for the vid, LK.

[@МирославКръстев-с7и]

No views? Damn, LK fell off

[@evilded2]

​@@МирославКръстев-с7иoh my God please be quiet

[@GamerChimp44]

Yasuo might be one of my favorite characters in a fg so far

[@eduardoserpa1682]

I love how much he takes advantage from the simple inputs to just give you a ton of interesting options all the time. Ekko also does some really cool things with whether you create a new clone or go back to the old one, and so does Ahri to a lesser degree.

[@tchbast1661]

Yeah, he's really fun

[@Kniightisa]

Yasuo is SUPER fun, I have definitely fallen in love with his play style. Great neutral, mobility, and tons of skill expression, all without feeling unbalanced. I feel like they really nailed Yasuo and Ekkos kits.

[@SomniaCE]

This game has really highlighted to me just how few big budget fighting games are western made. Tons of dope indie fighters from across the world but as far as high profile stuff goes we do not have shit aside from MK and this. Even KI was 11 years ago now...

[@Rhapsdos]

They should let Fury users use the dash cancel outside of 40% HP, and then just keep the damage bonus at low health. As of right now, it's just not competitive enough.

[@drakewinwest9888]

Can’t tell if I don’t like the game or I’m just depressed.

[@HellecticMojo]

por que no los dos?

[@RavenAstralis]

If you don't have fun. Why bother ?

[@Draconilian]

I personally cannot get emotionally invested in a game that is going to dissappear in a few days

[@HighM35h]

Maybe it's the small roster? Or maybe that most of the upcoming characters are likely to be paid DLC? If that's the case then I'm depressed too

[@LettuceGod1]

Real talk

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Honestly kinda surprised you didnt mention yasuo's wind wall in his pluses. It's an extremely powerful tool for controlling space and shutting down zoning, even in a build with no true zoner characters. Yasuo pretty much controls neutral, and you have to respect wind wall at all times.

[@justkosmo6806]

Real. His full screen stab through the wall is such a huge threat, especially if you're playing a character like Illaoi (the chip damage is insane). I've found the most success just bum-rushing it as soon as the Yas puts it out, but hyper aggression like that really easily leads to mistakes. It's a very powerful tool

[@RedLineOneGC]

25:50 we need that end of the alpha review my guy

[@МирославКръстев-с7и]

If Riot's business model succeeds (games are free, all characters are unlocked, but the game is full of cosmetics and relies primarily on whales) in the FGC, I hope that other companies try to copy it. Fighting games are incredibly expensive and if you look at their popularity in different countries, it becomes apparent that most FG players are from some of the wealthiest countries, while games like CS2, WoT, LoL, etc. which are free are most often played in poorer regions (LoL- Eastern Europe and S.Korea, WoT- Russia, Ukraine China, CS2: Russia, Europe, China). The FGC has been growing a lot in recent years and it doesn't seem like it's going to stop anytime soon, so games that remove the paywall are bound to explode in popularity (and I'm not talking about giving 1 character for free and locking 30 others with way better design behind a paywall). To this day, more people are playing the pirated version of CS1.6 than many established FG titles. 3rd Strike got "rediscovered" because it's free on Fightcade. People will play anything as long as it's free and whales are bound to appear to support the devs financially

[@unrighteous8745]

Europe is not a poor region, it's a continent with some of the wealthiest countries in the world. China isn't poor. Russia isn't poor. South Korea definitely isn't poor. Free games will inevitably attract more players, so I agree with your general sentiment; however, the idea that wealth is holding back fighting games as a genre is a bit farfetched. Brazil has a lower GDP per capita than either China or Russia, but fighting games are pretty popular there. The reason there haven't been many F2P fighting games is because they aren't popular enough to make money with that model. Riot makes F2P games, they have massive marketing budgets, and they can afford to fail; most companies can't. I do think 2XKO will succeed though, not because of the model, but because it looks like a really fun game.

[@iwa9691]

Yet the 2 best t8 players are Pakistani.

[@unrighteous8745]

@@iwa9691 Pakistan is a poor country, but I doubt Arslan Ash grew up poor. Pakistan's GDP per capita is just under $1600 USD. That means the average person has to save for nearly 4 months to buy a game console (which isn't possible because you need money for other things, the actual time it would take is more like years if at all). It's true that poor people can't afford a $60 game, but they can't afford a $600 console or a PC to play free games either. If you're playing games and traveling for tournaments, that's not poverty. Pakistan has a population of 235 million. Most people are poor, but they still have 19 000 millionaires, and plenty of people doing just fine. Can't really compare this stuff on a country-by-country basis, you need to look at class.

[@iwa9691]

@@unrighteous8745 He played in an arcade. Also he said that his region was full of hidden bosses on par with his level the first year he travelled out of region and took over.

[@unrighteous8745]

@@iwa9691 Was just trying to make the point that you do you need some money to play video games. Most countries in the world have a good chunk of people with the funds to play in arcades or buy game systems. I did a bit of research; it sounds like Arslan Ash wasn't rich, but he wasn't poor either. He says he stole coins to play at his local arcade, but I can't imagine his parents never bought him any (pretty sure he'd get caught stealing for years). There are a lot of people in Pakistan that barely have enough food and water to survive; playing in arcades isn't an option for them. I'm sure there are a lot of very talented people out there who never reach their full potential because they lack the resources.

[@ianorsomethin]

yohosie confirmed that the damage scaling reset off illaoi tentacles is technically not a bug but rather an 'oversight' so i wonder if it might still be super strong in the full release

[@mus0u]

fury is definitely weaker, but i'm totally new to tag fighters (but very experienced in sf/kof/gbvs/uni/etc) and i'm having enough trouble getting used to assists without making them even more complex, so i appreciate that it can at least give some upside while i'm learning. will probably switch to 2x assist eventually, unless they buff fury. i think the damage increase is reasonable as is, but it should kick in at 50% instead, since that's already a 1 touch situation most of the time in this game.

[@HellecticMojo]

I think fuse is the least favorite aspect of the design. It's one of those cases where it's bit too much option to frontload for new players, but it's also bound to be too restrictive for high level play as the game gets figured out. CVS comes to mind with the groove system where a newbie feels the need to know every groove, but competitive is just "roll cancel or bust"

[@tronixchl2004]

Game's not even out and THE GOAT already making a """tier list""", good guide but i think i'll play my League Mains regardless if they're good or not

[@seylaphoeuk5438]

ong when a yordle drops im immediately using them

[@wendigoszn8594]

If they add thresh, i might have to dig up years passed as a thresh main😭

[@Sielys_nt]

The paper mario ost 😌 I think Braum looks cool, first time I've been interested in playing a big body in a game.

[@matobi91]

Loving all the content Iv seen from the game so far. Only criticisms I have as a spectator is the animation/polish in some of the supers seems a bit underwhelming, but there is plenty of time for polish

[@ahmedalaoui9885]

Did not know about the tagging after super with Double Down might have to try some stuff out with that

[@RezzNations]

I use Ahri as my main, currently looking for my second, might be Yosua, but there’s not enough time to learn an advanced character 😢

[@tomasoliveira4465]

They beter give me a Sett or Lee Sin with Shoto play style

[@kurokaen1234]

I think the game should allow to punish whiffed bursts by adding hella recovery

[@rhettbunch3807]

Very good vid quite deep for alpha too well done lk

[@dumpsta-divrr365]

Man everyone's going to want to play yasuo in every game he's in

[@iwa9691]

I understand 2xko is where the contents at rn and all the guys are having a blast playing it but as a gg player with no real interest in this game I’m just sad that no one has made a tier list for 3.3 after 2 weeks😢

[@noirjamg4647]

Great video! During this alpha I mostly play Illaoi/ekko team against yasuo wall spamer 🤮

[@videopostrrr]

A tier, more like ahri tier right?

[@Aregulargameplayer]

Ahri feels like she has no neutral outside of S1 and jump over call assist. Def not a point character.

[@EvilPineappl]

"no neutral other than 4 specials that are great at neutral" is certainly a take

[@LeonardoCoelho-g3h]

I hope they put Akali in the game

[@Torqable]

fuck yes closed alpha tier list!

[@dumpsta-divrr365]

Honestly really dope that they gave anime fighter mechanics to the weebiest character (who is ahri not yas, lets be honest)

[@tuesday4564]

tier list before release is crazy

[@drout2892]

Oh hey it's the tier list guy... W-what it's not a tier list? oh okay...

[@crushedice1301]

RIOTTTT GIVE ME TEEMO AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[@raven-a]

Yasuo is dope but the game barely runs on my potato, I gotta find a bare mininum config file or something 😂🎉

[@retrostart8681]

Ekko=Xrd Bedman + steroids

[@Metallica995987]

A 3O minute tier list video for 6 characters, I respect the hustle

[@Andy-tb7hy]

he says the intent is not a tier list like within a minute of the video lolol

[@Metallica995987]

@@Andy-tb7hy ya I just got baited by the thumbnail and typed before watching 👍

[@DSKBR556]

no matter how good they are they all feel bad cause the babies were too afraid of doing a quarter circle

[@FlyXcur]

Guess you never played power rangers battle for the grid. The lack of motion inputs doesn't really interrupt the feel of the game. It's something you'll very easily get used to.

[@DSKBR556]

@@FlyXcur I have indeed never played battle for the grid. I'm not saying it changes the flow of the game (tho it does in some cases, one button invincible reversal in GBVS changed that game for the worse by a big factor), I'm saying swinging my stick around for basic things like quarter circles and more complex motions like tiger knees, pretzels, halfcircle back forwards or whatever the hell the devs decide to cook with moves like +R justice supers or idk taokaka astral or w/e is part of the fun, including messing the input up and watching your friend next to you that was about to lose get that big smile as he hits you with the most unholy punish for your drop. Anyone can cook = no satisfaction from training and becoming consistent at a not easy to do thing for the people that actually want to play the game. If you like the game learning won't be a chore. You'll learn to dp in sf6. You'll learn to tk in strive if your char needs it. Gutting anything that requires a bit of effort just to keep the fifa gamers playing for 10 days instead of 5 days is not healthy for the games in the long run.

[@LeDanc]

darius and braum are undisputed broken number 3 is yasuo with ekko ahri and illaoi are 4 and 5 i lost the count of how many times a braum or a darius ruined my mood "but its a beta" and? can't i get mad at bullshit characters?

[@MarinoCabrera-q8o]

Not really dude. Everyone is broken that’s what makes it fun

[@LeDanc]

@user-zx8qr1rl5z what's fun about that? It's not fun. it's annoying and stressful as hell Wtf is wrong with you

[@Halfcraft4224]

Darius is not as good as Ekko or Yasuo, he’s a scrub killer but is 1000% parry bait. I play vs him similar to how I played against UI Goku in DBFZ where if I have them in the corner I back off and force an interaction and he can do nothing. And Braum is too slow, he kinda just gets ran away from. Yasuo and Ekko are definitely the best