How Good is CAVALRY ONLY In Mount and Blade II: Bannerlord?

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Resonant

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4 жыл бұрын

The mass of vlandian knights reigns strong, but are they as good as people think?
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@mdocevski
@mdocevski 4 жыл бұрын
The cavalrymen are not couching their lances, and also they spread out quite a lot when charging. They won't be very effective until the AI is improved.
@damjan4435
@damjan4435 4 жыл бұрын
I find that when cavalry is spread out, each guy tends to do more damage overall, but the couching is a huge problem, cav tends to also miss their targets alot.
@TuDeDaTe
@TuDeDaTe 4 жыл бұрын
Splitting is really a pain in the butt, esspecially if you dont organize your cavalry in different groups like 20 valandian knight to a key 20 aserai faris to an another key and micromanage them.
@Kadbros
@Kadbros 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah they seem inaccurate, when charging, accuracy should be a big deal for AI
@venix20
@venix20 4 жыл бұрын
not to mention that cavalry should not stay about and try to poke oyu they all thrust together ... do the strike getting distance turn around and charge all together again hit and run hit and run
@Parameshvara
@Parameshvara 4 жыл бұрын
Yes true. as well, from the vid, it seemed if he had cycle charged them immediately after each contact he would have gotten more use out of them. Soaking them in close combat roasted his own numbers to grizzle.
@indoom666
@indoom666 4 жыл бұрын
Cavalry miss most of their hits due to a bug, they can't couch their lances, and they really can't aim their spears if they use them. They are really bugged
@crusaderpilled5541
@crusaderpilled5541 4 жыл бұрын
yeah. i haven't seen them use secondary weapons like swords or maces on horseback like they did in warband, that's what allowed them to utterly crush enemies after a charge.
@andrewgodly5739
@andrewgodly5739 4 жыл бұрын
I've been hit by a couched lance by the ai before
@Axzealot
@Axzealot 4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Godly yeah me too and i have seen them switch weapons
@creativedegree
@creativedegree 4 жыл бұрын
I thought something felt off
@badalrana10
@badalrana10 4 жыл бұрын
Have the devs talked about this?
@Algebrodadio
@Algebrodadio 4 жыл бұрын
"Rock and Pitchfork 2: LOOTERLORD"
@cenetermacaronied2489
@cenetermacaronied2489 3 жыл бұрын
Cock and Balls 2: The Cum Zone
@jasonslatt2470
@jasonslatt2470 2 жыл бұрын
@@cenetermacaronied2489 are you ok?
@davids.8909
@davids.8909 4 жыл бұрын
Just play the Rohirrin charge song while charging in and cavalry only will get op every time
@BG_Low
@BG_Low 4 жыл бұрын
DEAAAAAATH....!!!
@davids.8909
@davids.8909 4 жыл бұрын
@Maximus Roebuck is that a LoTR mod?
@davids.8909
@davids.8909 4 жыл бұрын
@Maximus Roebuck oh boi, definitely gonna check it out, thanks!
@anonymussicarius8899
@anonymussicarius8899 4 жыл бұрын
@@davids.8909 Full titel of the mod is Kingdomes of Arda, should make it easier to find it. ^^
@davids.8909
@davids.8909 4 жыл бұрын
@@anonymussicarius8899 i managed to find it on moddb thanks a lot guys, really looking forward to this one, looks amazing! Stay safe out there and i wish you the best to keep up a decent mood in these times
@Jakman01
@Jakman01 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that actually just commanding your cavalry to follow you proves to be better than just letting them charge so you can actually force them to cycle charge and not just stop in the middle of a crowd of troops.
@kemeras3689
@kemeras3689 4 жыл бұрын
Ive found that I have to pull them back to reorganize, there power is in that first hit, infantry is following right behind them, pull Cav back as infantry fights, charge again.
@loewenstern2795
@loewenstern2795 4 жыл бұрын
so the old F1 F3 tactic isnt working anymore?
@kemeras3689
@kemeras3689 4 жыл бұрын
@@loewenstern2795 more F1 F4 mixed with some charges. I find you just have to command cavalry directly more than horse archers. F4 with horse archers is deadly
@alxmagro
@alxmagro 4 жыл бұрын
I still miss a "brace formation" that allows spearmen to counterattack the cavalry charge. But it is good to know that infantry has value and is not useless. The more tactical the combat, the better.
@AzureShadow88
@AzureShadow88 4 жыл бұрын
A spear thrust to a charging horse will stop it dead in its tracks though
@mr.fantastic7756
@mr.fantastic7756 4 жыл бұрын
Missed that from warband mods
@marconapolitano2821
@marconapolitano2821 4 жыл бұрын
Try 500 imperial catafracts against 500 battanian spearman and see the result.
@swordscythe
@swordscythe 4 жыл бұрын
@G S Personally, I've learned to fear polearm infantry when i'm charging in with my lance couched. When I see a soldier coming at me with a spear, I turn back and take out my bow. They destroy your mount easy, and they're extremely accurate.
@hazzballgaming6790
@hazzballgaming6790 4 жыл бұрын
Hendrik Veerbeek yeah but say goodbye to your wrist though
@berketugral8236
@berketugral8236 4 жыл бұрын
Bannerlord cavalry charges are giving me blue balls everytime
@umbradens6129
@umbradens6129 4 жыл бұрын
its because they can't actually charge right if they crouch lanced or if the line of horses hitting a line had actually realistic damage then it would be better. the way it is they mostly have to fight in sustained combat which is not what you want
@Toetech0
@Toetech0 4 жыл бұрын
download the mod deadly horse charges
@danielzonneveld5972
@danielzonneveld5972 4 жыл бұрын
@@Toetech0 this
@vucovix7
@vucovix7 4 жыл бұрын
@@Toetech0 I was going to say that, with this mod horse charges are devastating
@BijiMustardGas
@BijiMustardGas 4 жыл бұрын
@@vucovix7 which mod?
@ryanschmidt3319
@ryanschmidt3319 4 жыл бұрын
I think cavalry, particularly shock cavalry, more than any other type of troop needs support. Heavy infantry is a meat grinder, archers can project their force incredibly well across their whole line, and missile cav is so eminently survivable. Shock cav needs an anvil so they can be the hammer, otherwise they are wasted.
@ElioCarosone
@ElioCarosone 4 жыл бұрын
I use a mix of cavalry and horse archers: enemy AI doesn't form a square if it's hit by arrows
@Halvtooth
@Halvtooth 4 жыл бұрын
I use full horse archers, as long as I am on a field and my arrows last I only lose like 3 or 2 units in a 100 Vs 150 fight.
@TheRockhound119
@TheRockhound119 4 жыл бұрын
@@Halvtooth A combination works better because then you can have your horse archers ride around and then send in the cavalry and cycle charge them when the enemy doesn't form a square, becomes fractured and softened up. The cavalry will do more damage than your horse archers will when your horse archers run out of arrows. This is talking when you have over 100 units. Most troops I took out with 120 was an army of 400 or so Aserai. Lots of casualties yes, but the Aserai army was cooked. The cavalry are extremely good at making the enemy break ranks and flee.
@clnetrooper
@clnetrooper 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, from the video you can see it. When the ennemy goes into a tight formation the losses are much greater than when the troops stay in line and all.
@antonicv88
@antonicv88 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRockhound119 I use a mixt of horse archers with some lancers in the group and other group of cav only with lancer, usualy skirimish from the right flank (all archers shoot beter from their left side) an them charge with the cav, and them charge with the mixt of archer cav, works pretty good, and if u use some heavy infantery the ia usualy scaters too much and its pretty easy charge to them, with the two cav groups from behind or the flanks (sorry for my broke english)
@TheRockhound119
@TheRockhound119 4 жыл бұрын
@@antonicv88 precisely.
@ridvirgo1994
@ridvirgo1994 4 жыл бұрын
Spear shall be shaken, shield shall be splintered, a sword day, a red day, ere the sun rises. Death! DEATH!! - intensifies music playing-
@SewingMink160
@SewingMink160 4 ай бұрын
Death!!
@someidiotfromover7yearsago
@someidiotfromover7yearsago 4 жыл бұрын
How good is LOOTER only? Can 600 looters kill anything?
@RooZvonBooZ
@RooZvonBooZ 4 жыл бұрын
They can loot our lifes, but they can never loot.... OUR BUTTER !
@Dethilion
@Dethilion 4 жыл бұрын
@Aput you have no cavalry? O.o
@The_Falk
@The_Falk 4 жыл бұрын
They can kill my Frame Rate
@lukewithann7256
@lukewithann7256 4 жыл бұрын
is it just me or are cavalry charges kinda not as great as they should be?
@reveriesend4668
@reveriesend4668 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, no couching yet.
@spectrent
@spectrent 4 жыл бұрын
Download a collision fix mod, cavalry will crush infantry like bugs, additionally a mod that multiplies the damage horses do and it feels really immersive
@fabienherry6690
@fabienherry6690 4 жыл бұрын
Well the comparaison he did is kinda unfair as vlandian knight are actually around half the upkeep of all the other unit he tested (max level standard tree). Also the fact that horse tend to stick around and not flee in terror is kinda nerfing them since cavalery to cavalery impact just stop you
@Sandderad
@Sandderad 4 жыл бұрын
Because the ai doesn't fight properly, if you actually lead them around and cycle charge they are invincible.
@bakersmileyface
@bakersmileyface 4 жыл бұрын
@@spectrent really immersive? Do you know how heavy humans are? Cavalry might crush one or two people before falling over. That is if it didn't break it's legs upon impact. The cavalry is balanced enough as it is now. Why break it? At most they need to fix lances. But that's all.
@horen2136
@horen2136 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend to download a mod "deadly horse charges" and "horse rebalance".
@Al4___
@Al4___ 4 жыл бұрын
Horen What did they do ?
@Angelchaser29
@Angelchaser29 4 жыл бұрын
@@Al4___ they make horse charges more realistic since right now an armored beast running over you only does like 4 damage
@horen2136
@horen2136 4 жыл бұрын
@@Angelchaser29 so true
@DziaduSwierznowski
@DziaduSwierznowski 4 жыл бұрын
Heavy cav is hugely nerfed compared to Warband. I see two problems here: inability to hit anything with lance (which was supposed to be fixed) and second, maybe even bigger - they don't switch to swords/maces if stuck after charge. 10-12 knights with maces if stuck in a mass od infantry could inflict huge losses before going down or be more likely to break out
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 4 жыл бұрын
that is strange, I've always had a lot of success with cavalry, but I never tried cavalry only though. but when used for flanking or to break formation they were extremely effective. however I'm kinda happy that cavalry only is not unbeatable, the fact that you need to to buy warhorses for higher tier units is also pretty cool. I just hope that if they ever add spear brace formation they also buff the cavalry.
@potatoeking6339
@potatoeking6339 4 жыл бұрын
At this point you can call any video thick and fast compilation seeing as you say it all the time :D
@WillWitkowskiMut389
@WillWitkowskiMut389 4 жыл бұрын
Do the britanian wildings! Their huge shields should make a very interesting army and make enemy ranged units very useless. Great vids man 👍
@aeth4190
@aeth4190 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Wildigns Batanian I'm really wondering how they manage in battle, being the only accessible ranged Batanian unit (which can be massed)
@drekor884
@drekor884 4 жыл бұрын
You can't really leave cavalry to sergeants. You need to have them charge through the enemy all together, reform then do it again. Having them charge at different times/angles makes them get in each others way and if they ever stop to attack people they get pulled down pretty quick.
@Emkato
@Emkato 4 жыл бұрын
Drekor classic hammer and anvil!
@winterpyg
@winterpyg 4 жыл бұрын
A bit micromanaging, but cycle charging works best with cavalry. And form skein (F3-F6). Have cavalry standard-move order (F1) behind enemy formation to stay in formation and charge (F1-F3) only on the last few minutes, AI tends to split the formation if you charge from the get go. Once all my cavalry have full contact, I order to reform away from enemy and redo. Suffice to say, I'm up on a hill watching the entire thing and giving orders as a Lord is suppose to do.
@badoucancel9332
@badoucancel9332 4 жыл бұрын
A Lord does not send his men to battle. He leads them to Victory
@Zz-qr3mv
@Zz-qr3mv 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know why you would feel shocked. They are shock cavalry after all.
@buggybeans5104
@buggybeans5104 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel great ass content and I love medieval games and your battles your epic keep it up big guy✊
@littlebig170
@littlebig170 4 жыл бұрын
The most fun and effective cavalry for me remains the khuzait horse archers as you just make them charge and they melt big armies like crazy. When you run out of arrows just retreat and go for another round. Took down 600 men army withonly 70 horse archers (they were khan's guard).
@rayleigh7407
@rayleigh7407 4 жыл бұрын
This is like cheating
@simoneguarise9012
@simoneguarise9012 4 жыл бұрын
I really can't wait for a Third Age mod. It will be fantastic
@Stelgim
@Stelgim 4 жыл бұрын
Same, went back to play it on Warband just recently. Excited for the mods that will come
@bobafat2082
@bobafat2082 4 жыл бұрын
People are already planning and preparing for a lotr conversion called Kingdoms of Arda. It looks really promising!
@DungTran-wq2dj
@DungTran-wq2dj 4 жыл бұрын
Simone Guarise tbh third age warband was boring
@simoneguarise9012
@simoneguarise9012 4 жыл бұрын
@@DungTran-wq2dj you don't know what you are saying
@fobie7913
@fobie7913 4 жыл бұрын
I want a mod that has a horse that does insane charge damage, like a unicorn that just impales people.
@azell2913
@azell2913 4 жыл бұрын
theres a mod that makes all horses do insane charge dmg you might like
@umbradens6129
@umbradens6129 4 жыл бұрын
just a normal horse would do insane charge damage the default in the game is much too low
@tayloraverett3138
@tayloraverett3138 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Schwarz whats the mod name?
@footballeratilla
@footballeratilla 4 жыл бұрын
Xorberax's Deadly Horse Charges Website is Nexus mods.
@user-gg3xt2rh1u
@user-gg3xt2rh1u 4 жыл бұрын
... And if there is, it need a bucket load of hp and armor when it get hit as you charge.
@POSEID0N_WRATH
@POSEID0N_WRATH 4 жыл бұрын
What is that soundtrack used at 16:45 keep hearing it all over youtube but don't know what's it's called
@chrisg2739
@chrisg2739 4 жыл бұрын
They need to work on the unit cohesion of melee cavalry. The effect of a cavalry charge is in its mass of impact not an individual impact. They should move at a moderate speed in a wedge or line and about 100yds from the target they should open up to a full gallop. These broken cavalry charges are impotent compared to what a cohesive charge would be.
@taylorantczak9125
@taylorantczak9125 4 жыл бұрын
I think a big way to improve the cavalry only army is to put them into multiple different command squads. That way you can always have them on a flank and charge from different directions and have a few quick waves of charges. While one pulls out the other smashes in.
@FF-qv8en
@FF-qv8en 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Absolutely No one: Resonant: *THICK AND FAST*
@faboFromNomads
@faboFromNomads 4 жыл бұрын
try the "Troop Collision and siege tower and castle stairs fix" mod. It will put bigger distance between troops so they don't bunch up like that. Those unrealistic tight formations could be the reason they block your cav so effectively
@pixel6964
@pixel6964 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed from my own experience that the crouch lance and miss even wen on target (bug I think) and only certain cav can crouch lance which is new compared to launch. But cav is very situational and can win you a fight of a much larger force if you have infantry to back them up. I always use my cav from the sides or rear after mopping up the enemies own cav, and I only do this before and infantry charge while underfire from xbow men and archers as they work as a great distraction. They also really suck in a siege and is one of the bigger losses I take compared to other troops which is suprising because of there armour, weapons and stats.
@elhananiluz8435
@elhananiluz8435 4 жыл бұрын
Great video , maybe you can test 1000 battaniens riders ?
@GrammerPollice
@GrammerPollice 4 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see an army of Strugian infantry. A full shield wall of Sturgian veteran warriors with javelins sounds terrifying.
@thomasvanwonterghem1498
@thomasvanwonterghem1498 4 жыл бұрын
Im already using them like that along with some good archers (vlandian sharpshooters and fian champion) every time the enemy gets close enough for that rain of javelins their morale is destroyed and since the new armor of the sturgian veteran warriors along with the javs I prefer them over legionairs even.
@YouShallDie699
@YouShallDie699 Жыл бұрын
Holding them on loose and follow increases their chance to actually hit and not get stuck in eachother and you can pull them out more easily
@joshnewbold1514
@joshnewbold1514 4 жыл бұрын
Do an episode of your favourite combined army. A perfect mix of all the max troops covered
@chiefbigsad7995
@chiefbigsad7995 4 жыл бұрын
cavalry is a skirmishing unit by nature. they dont charge in and stay in combat. to be most effective they are used in cycle charges against the sides and rear of the enemy. use infantry and archers to bait them into breaking formation and charging your lines, and use the follow command with your cav and repeatedly charge into their sides as they move.
@ClockworkAnomaly
@ClockworkAnomaly 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is people only know "Knight" tactics and don't remember that before, like during the sort of time period this game is set in, cavalry was never a core force.
@rachmadsetyo1512
@rachmadsetyo1512 4 жыл бұрын
finaly genius dude come out
@andrejanastasovski1189
@andrejanastasovski1189 4 жыл бұрын
Knights were a core force and could stay in combat because they were basically tanks. But ARMOR in bannerlord is next to useless as swords cut through the best armor like it's nothing.
@ClockworkAnomaly
@ClockworkAnomaly 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrejanastasovski1189 this game is set during a time when infantry armies were augmented by skirmisher screens and flanking cavalry. The (late tier) knights in this game are early proto knights and cataphracts that are not used remotely in the same way as a medieval knight.
@andrejanastasovski1189
@andrejanastasovski1189 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClockworkAnomaly Yes I realise that and very rarely use cavarly. Most of the time i charge them right before the infantry clashes so the enemy formation gets disrupted. But the cavarly is still really underpowered in the game. Cavarly shouldn't be very effective against tight formations as it already is but it isnt very effective against loose formation troops as well. Charge damage is basically non existant. Best i've done is 12-15. Imagine getting smacked by a horse with armor going full speed all your bones will be broken.
@artua7461
@artua7461 2 жыл бұрын
I have found when using like 200 cav, if you puts some like knights into a custom group, and champions or something in just cavalry section, you can command them more tactically, and it's much more effective.
@vainfate6275
@vainfate6275 4 жыл бұрын
This is why a heavy cav comp w/imperial palatine guards(some form of high level bowman), is exceptionally difficult to deal with. You rain arrows on a stationary wall until they break formation, then you flank with cav.
@cloudsora
@cloudsora 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I asked before in a previous video why he didn't use a square or circle formation, they were designed for anti-cav historically.
@legatusmaximus7432
@legatusmaximus7432 3 жыл бұрын
Back 9 months later banner knights and champions get a sick new helmet and cavalry are pretty good now, they’re insane at breaking up a solid line, in preparation for a infantry charge
@culturedthug8850
@culturedthug8850 3 жыл бұрын
A mix of cavalry and horseback archers would be pretty sick. Use the archers to whittle them down a bit then use the heavy cavalry to break the formation. Use the archers to flank and cause chaos. Then use both to cut down stragglers.
@Daggoth2424
@Daggoth2424 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad you are making this a fun series! Will this go on into mods to?
@kaikart123
@kaikart123 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this I remember my SWADIAN KNIGHTS FLOOD ARMY in Warband. Also I think after you order your cav to charge and you order them to regroup to charge again it would be more effective. Also it seems when you order them to charge they didn't maintain their formation which is a shame. I remember in Warband with more formation mod they will maintain their formation while charging.
@MrRichardHammerbush
@MrRichardHammerbush 4 жыл бұрын
I had a thought: What about an army made of troops you borrow during the "Train these troops up" quests you can get from settlements? For instance, would it be worth taking as many of those quests at once as possible, or even ignoring the quest itself? I'm pretty sure when I first had one of those quests fail on me it didn't immediately remove the troops from my party so if they're any good it could be a cheap way of gaining some men. Also just wanted to say I love the video. I had been curious as to how potent the Cav could be in its current state, since it seems to hang around a bit too much after each charge unless extensively mircomanaged
@AhuizotlXiuh
@AhuizotlXiuh 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can take more than one of that quest at a time. Maybe a mod could remove that limitation or you could just use a mod or console to give yourself borrowed troops.
@aidanallen1976
@aidanallen1976 4 жыл бұрын
@@AhuizotlXiuh once you fail the quest you keep the troops so you could make an army of them
@jabom22
@jabom22 3 жыл бұрын
@@aidanallen1976 And the battanian ones may turn into the noble line too xD , so that could be a very strong strat.
@Arnechk
@Arnechk 4 жыл бұрын
What if you use the tried and trusted method of stand closer + follow me and then just joust through the enemy lines and get your cavalry to comb though them, get some distance, make them hold and repeat until Calradia is yours?
@mister_x5825
@mister_x5825 4 жыл бұрын
How do you get troops from the minor factions i just got 12 arboreals and they are awesome
@dank8793
@dank8793 4 жыл бұрын
I find that a Cav only army is much more effective if you always give the follow order at the beginning and attack the sides of an army rather than charging the center. Charging the weaker flanks and shearing down their numbers opens them up for a devastating charge down the center. It also helps to split your army into 2 groups (I set banner knights/elite cataphracts as cav and valandian vanguards as infantry) so you can send one group behind the enemy while keeping the enemy focused on your main force in front.
@stillwaterstyx762
@stillwaterstyx762 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve found that cavalry are very good if you lead them yourself but they just die if you delegate command or just tell them to charge. That’s because if you lead them you can charge them through the enemy and keep the going past them and loop around for another pass, if they just charge they’ll crash into the enemy, but then will just stay there ineffectively trying to attack with spears
@Sinvx
@Sinvx 4 жыл бұрын
I find as cav you have to charge, fall back, and charge again, rinse repeat. Can't let them get bogged down, and you have to keep them together. Edit, also I like to seperate cav into multiple units. 1 unit charges, then have the other unit charge, as you regroup the first, rinse repeat.
@ZechsMerquise195
@ZechsMerquise195 4 жыл бұрын
I made it work with an equal mix of horse-archers and lancers. The trick is that the horse-archers will pepper the enemy with arrows and usually break the enemies formation (or at least dent it), and then the lancers strike.
@kharekelas4259
@kharekelas4259 4 жыл бұрын
Cavalry need to always follow you, and you lead them strike the outer edge of the enemy's formation. Charging into dense troops is suicidal.
@justarandomdudewhosings7539
@justarandomdudewhosings7539 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on sturgian veteran warriors? They are my favorite units. Love the series.
@ALegitimateYoutuber
@ALegitimateYoutuber 4 жыл бұрын
you should include hideouts in you're test. since those are a pain so knowing whats good for those is.. good.
@SL-mj2eq
@SL-mj2eq 4 жыл бұрын
For hideouts basically for steppebandits/forest bandits i would recommend high tier ranged units. So battanian fians champions. Make sure u put units with large shields in the top of ur party list since u cant pick ur troops. And put them in shieldwall to tank some of the arrows. And use a bow urself while sniping them from behind cover. This method allows me to take out bandit camps with 40 people in it. Mountain bandits and sea raiders. Its shield units cos of there javis if u give ur companions. a bow shield/sword they do pretty good. But no sweat if u get some high tier ranged units offc. but some of these enemies do have shields so its less effective.
@Philipp.of.Swabia
@Philipp.of.Swabia 3 жыл бұрын
I mean in medival times ( at least in the early and high medival time, so 11th, 12, and 13th century cavalry had only the job to kill the fleeing enemy’s so that they don’t return to the battlefield, in some battles they actually charged right in, but that was really rare at these early times, it more developed in the 14th century...) ( please correct if I’m wrong, but I remember that Loyd from Lidybeige once said that stuff...)
@FinestFellaz
@FinestFellaz 3 жыл бұрын
What mods are you using in this vid?
@MonsieurNarlan
@MonsieurNarlan 4 жыл бұрын
I think they should debug the cav, but I found out that they are actually more effective when used as they where historical : to disturb the opponent. For example, charging into infantry back while they are fighting your shield wall - they do immense damages at impact.
@l3gionmusic814
@l3gionmusic814 4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to build an army of Legionnaires, Imperial Palatine Guards (archers) and Vlandian Cavalry. Hopefully they fix the cavalry soon so they can actually hit things. And when they can properly all couch their lances it will be destruction.
@jakerichmond5041
@jakerichmond5041 4 жыл бұрын
Used to always run cav only in warband I’ll have to see how it’ll work for me soon
@HoangTran-wu6se
@HoangTran-wu6se 4 жыл бұрын
MAN, your comment, it's just so good, you describe it accurately and so entertaining.
@Mr123adam
@Mr123adam 4 жыл бұрын
how do you get that camera view?
@-Pathos-
@-Pathos- 4 жыл бұрын
How to get those cinematic cameras ? Is it a mod ?
@harleycoughlin8050
@harleycoughlin8050 4 жыл бұрын
Would splitting the cav into two groups and charging in turns work?
@interabits
@interabits 4 жыл бұрын
How do you change your camera to free roam??
@NihilIslands
@NihilIslands 8 ай бұрын
Ask for tightest formation ask follow and lead them 15-20 meters and give charge command for them to couch enemies. Give follow me command behind enemy lines but better retreat them lateraly command. Rinse and repeat , try also to couch together with them, take a couch lance. Try to flank them when they are many, go direct charge if they arent spearmen...
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 4 жыл бұрын
I a solitwly love vlandia. Will totally play as them as soon as my new pc arrives.
@RoastingPotPieMonkey
@RoastingPotPieMonkey 4 жыл бұрын
i know this isn't the point of the challenge but if you have a few horse archers on skirmish they cause the enemy ai to run be less effective at stopping your Calvary charge. I also typically put them on loose formation so they don't clump up on the charge. It's something helpful to just let the sergeants take over for Calvary (especially horse archers). their line typically breaks easier when half their force is chasing the horse archers while the regular cavalry messes them up.
@XPureSoul
@XPureSoul 4 жыл бұрын
May I ask how are you getting all those troops?
@Raddosseuss
@Raddosseuss 2 жыл бұрын
just a thing here cause it seems no one have notices how to use calvary properly , theres 2 ways really efective to use them one of them is to spread them to make a line of 2 (one on front one on the back) no more than 2 otherwise you will have a ball of calvary and their attack range will go to the same place doing 30% of their total number damage , other way is making 2 groups of calvary , 1 to the left spread out , other to the right spread out too , first make one of them charge and when the enemy turn to the side of that calvary their practically giving you the back , now make the second calvary also charge and you will get many crits for backstabs , also never start a war with a frontal calvary assault , better use a mix of spearman with swordmans , your swordmans will keep the enemy busy and the spearman will keep pushing the enemy back with their spears, your basically making a wall there , hope someone new to the series of M&B get this tips useful and dont be shy and try new formations you will be surprised how creative you can use formations :D
@mulder801
@mulder801 4 жыл бұрын
I remember back then i used floris mod and always went full cavalry in every game. Op af.
@knokkeldoom
@knokkeldoom 4 жыл бұрын
how do you enter that cinematic mode?
@kanekikfc5817
@kanekikfc5817 4 жыл бұрын
What mod did he use to gain that much money or to get that many troops any idea?
@WildWombats
@WildWombats Жыл бұрын
I'd love an updated answer :) I'm sure a lot's changed since!
@MutatingManiacGarr
@MutatingManiacGarr 4 жыл бұрын
I found cavvalry army works best when you have mix half heavy cavalry, half horse archers, so either khuzaits, or go multi-culti
@soundsofexpressions3720
@soundsofexpressions3720 4 жыл бұрын
Same ive taken on and beaten an army of 700 imperial men, with 150 mixed cav, on realistic only settings, by the end i still have 60 or so left.
@Sputnik312
@Sputnik312 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe one could stretch the meaning of Cav only and have a even split of Cav and Cav Archers. I find if you can skirmish a little it helps keep the enemy infantry from forming big clumps and forcing your cavalry into sustained mosh pits where charges go to die. Having to fight the Khuzait a lot has made me field a huge army of cavalry to catch their armies, so having a strong Archer Cav is key.
@yarriddevogelaere2005
@yarriddevogelaere2005 Жыл бұрын
The thick and fasts are coming in thick and fast :p
@judechauhan6715
@judechauhan6715 4 жыл бұрын
I tried to make a cav only campaign army and could never get enough. For 60 men you need ~40 cav and I could only get around 20 at any time :(
@The_Flamekeepers
@The_Flamekeepers 4 жыл бұрын
Quality Archers are the GOAT. Its a toss up between Fian Champions and Palatine Archers. How do you get those camera controls? Is there a battle replay feature I missed or something?
@m0rphy375
@m0rphy375 4 жыл бұрын
It would be very cool if u could do Imperial Legionarys only
@coranda326
@coranda326 4 жыл бұрын
I like the calvary in the game because they are support units used for cycle charging which historically was their use
@sams8009
@sams8009 4 жыл бұрын
What mod do you use to make these videos?
@user-cd5mk9qo3w
@user-cd5mk9qo3w 4 жыл бұрын
I think army with Khuzait Heavy Horse Archers and Vlandian Banner Knights would be ideal for open battle on a field
@BePatient888
@BePatient888 4 жыл бұрын
To amend a previous post, my 80 mounted troops consist of both horse archers and knights. SO, it's a free for all. Those circle formations are decimated by arrows, and then overwhelmed by the shock troops.
@patricklomas9476
@patricklomas9476 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do Hired Blades next? Just wondering if they are still op as in Warband
@goetzvonb123
@goetzvonb123 4 жыл бұрын
As in every RTS micromanaging the cav is the key to success. You can split your cav into several units that u can command and give way more orders to circle charge etc.... i mean since the invention of the pike, straight forward cav charges, haven´t been a good idea. So would you consider showing us your doomstack mastery by making it work...Show us some rear charges, manually cycle charge different units of cav, etc...? I would watch it.
@dimapetrov2367
@dimapetrov2367 4 жыл бұрын
that is UNEXPECTED result considering original game but realy nice video to undertand cavalry problems.
@lireth3851
@lireth3851 4 жыл бұрын
you need to use follow command or to position command to prevent them from stuck inside enemies
@Kendizzle
@Kendizzle 4 жыл бұрын
You should see what the best recruit is from each faction
@CollinRezac
@CollinRezac 2 ай бұрын
It also helps when the enemy is more spread out instead of in a group that will slow down and stop the cav. So instead you shouldnt charge them into spear but from the side or when they are spread out.
@nobleman_9873
@nobleman_9873 4 жыл бұрын
Might I request that your next troop video is the imperial bucelarri?
@Lord-of-Cats
@Lord-of-Cats 4 жыл бұрын
I use an army of Banner Knights only, and with only 50, we take out armies of hundreds. However I do micro manage my men. I pull them out after each charge and send them again after setting up a good position.
@ahmetsezginn
@ahmetsezginn 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish that you installed some visual mods like banners for this one or fire arrows for the archers one
@stuartmaltby2035
@stuartmaltby2035 4 жыл бұрын
Cavalry should be used from the flank or rear. I split them in 2 send them either side of the enemy, get my archers to pin the infantry down. Then charge cavalry before pressing f4 on the archers(not sure if friendly fire is a thing) then f1, f2 the cav on me and F4 the archers again(no more shield wall). One charge normally breaks them then my infantry F1, F4 till face to face with the enemy archers then all charge.
@majkel7918
@majkel7918 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, how is he recruiting the Vlandians Squire?
@CrimsonReaper189
@CrimsonReaper189 4 жыл бұрын
would it be possiable to get a video on how u build these armys ? like i cant get a army of 20 maxed out units after a few hours playing
@Dover78
@Dover78 4 жыл бұрын
Abuse looters and auto-resolve. For some reason, when you auto-resolve a fight, your troops gain way more XP than in a manual battle (I've seen figures quoted as high as 8x more XP) and that XP is spread evenly between your troops. Do this against groups of looters and you'll barely ever lose any troops and the ones you do lose will rarely die because of the high proportion of blunt weapons in Looter armies. You can rack up huge troop upgrades in a relatively short period of time just running around taking out big groups of looters like this.
@CrimsonReaper189
@CrimsonReaper189 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dover78 that's what I am doing already since units can not die vs looters. But even stuff like tactics and leadership take for ever to level after 10 hours today I gained about 8 levels in tactics
@henriquecardoso5544
@henriquecardoso5544 4 жыл бұрын
How does he go into spectator mode and slow motion?
@jyehuntington7424
@jyehuntington7424 4 жыл бұрын
I tend to find the best mix for caV is like 50/50 knights and horse archers haven't been beaten yet
@jakeheathcock9735
@jakeheathcock9735 4 жыл бұрын
You should do the young wolf units and their tree progression...
@richardforsman
@richardforsman 3 жыл бұрын
I have mostly cavalry only, but I mix Vlandians with Khuzan and I have a little infantry force acting like a little tank in the square formation, so my cavalry gets to attack behind the enemy more easily.
@Gnomkiller2000
@Gnomkiller2000 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh did a run cav only once you have 50 heavy knights there really wasn't anything that could stop it in the end did supplement it with horse archers because that makes ai do strange formations
@MrPooBTW
@MrPooBTW 4 жыл бұрын
what mods do you use?
@thestoryteller2332
@thestoryteller2332 3 жыл бұрын
This guy would make a great sports announcer
@TeachingOfPeaceMinistries
@TeachingOfPeaceMinistries 4 жыл бұрын
Could try a cavalry unit with different weapons, sort of like the old Swadian Knights of M&B Warband. :) In field battles if you spread them out and in loose formation, and you CHARGE back and forth, there aint nothin like it
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