How good is HYOYEON in dancing? A Dancer's Analysis

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@onthescene7897
@onthescene7897 4 жыл бұрын
⚡ New HGI video features KIM HYOYEON! NOTES (must read) 1) How the scoring works can be read here: otsdanceanalysis.com/thescoringprocess The scores are given with so much thought and NOT in anywhere carelessly. Complaining without reading and feigning ignorance are my utmost pet peeves, so learn to respect how the channel works. 2) If you want your favorite idol dancer to be part of this series, please make a playlist with his/her best dance fancams, practices or performances, so it will be easier for me. Reply the link of the playlist in this pinned. If you already send the playlist link in the last HGI video, I already seen it :) don't send it again. 3) Main and lead dancers or those who doesn't have the title but can fit into such, are the only ones that can be featured in this series. 4) This is entirely my perspective, sharing to you what I notice. If you have disagreements to me or to anyone, please still be respectful. 5) This is a general take, so the tier will hardly change. Do not associate the tiers on HGI and WDTB. HGI is in general, WDTB is current idol dancing level. They cater different topics, so don't associate them. 6) Read description for more understanding on how I do the scoring and brief information about each criteria. 7) Visit www.otsdanceanalysis.com to learn more about the channel. *Thank you for watching! :)*
@izsm
@izsm 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Chaeyeon next please......
@amandalobos6443
@amandalobos6443 4 жыл бұрын
nct Ten please 🙏
@pororo9537
@pororo9537 4 жыл бұрын
Please do MAMAMOO’s Wheein next kzbin.info/aero/PL5lQs4jXlWHAqLL5erJdrkfAlsv9i23EC
@heejin3947
@heejin3947 4 жыл бұрын
lee chaeyeon from iz*one please! thank you sm kzbin.info/aero/PL9WnszpfUCmHZ-ErzV7dh4ZyFw2Gw1Xzt
@franciscohumss2416
@franciscohumss2416 4 жыл бұрын
SNSD RANKING PLS
@khanh9751
@khanh9751 4 жыл бұрын
"No female idol in 3rd or 4th generation can outdo her at her best". Why is that sentence so satisfying???
@chuu8931
@chuu8931 4 жыл бұрын
it just is
@yannasone1344
@yannasone1344 4 жыл бұрын
it's satisfying because it's the truth
@jayem7121
@jayem7121 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS ONLY.
@avesimon4588
@avesimon4588 4 жыл бұрын
because its the fact
@Na-dx9zz
@Na-dx9zz 4 жыл бұрын
because you love 2nd gen the best
@80zpauer9
@80zpauer9 4 жыл бұрын
"No visible weakness in technique." We all know she's an S.
@Rina_Nani5
@Rina_Nani5 4 жыл бұрын
Sadist? (ノ´∀`)ノ
@gretel654
@gretel654 4 жыл бұрын
That's our eternal dancing queen
@GeminiX31
@GeminiX31 4 жыл бұрын
SSS
@ayumi1091
@ayumi1091 4 жыл бұрын
SSSSSSSSSSS+++
@vNilleframboise
@vNilleframboise 4 жыл бұрын
and thats for everyone that says we overrate her because shes 2nd gen. shes a top tier dancer.
@joanneloh5476
@joanneloh5476 4 жыл бұрын
she is not snsd main dancer. she is the generation’s main dancer
@qualityblood5651
@qualityblood5651 4 жыл бұрын
kpop's main dancer haha
@manonn2006
@manonn2006 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Minzy is just as good though.. or maybe almost the same level but never got the exposure she deserved.... Boa, Minzy and Hyo are my top 3 and I just can't bring myself to put one over the other..
@pinkgangsta6157
@pinkgangsta6157 4 жыл бұрын
@@manonn2006 Minzy have lack of dance performance when she was in 2NE1. Because YG not focus in dance. After she left YG and she make her own dance studio, we can see her dance
@abjolute
@abjolute 4 жыл бұрын
We can say she is kpop's overall main dancer🤭💅
@maxinejijiii
@maxinejijiii 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon is really the Kpop's Main Dancer 💖
@maxsaboofpiu
@maxsaboofpiu 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a nobody - a nobody that is so proud of her achievements. "No visible weakness" sent me those shivers.
@suwingonizone
@suwingonizone 4 жыл бұрын
Soo true
@Sona-np2ju
@Sona-np2ju 4 жыл бұрын
I got the chills....
@ianm271
@ianm271 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I wanna see Hyoyeon and J Hope do some type of dance collab, I think we'd all die.
@Heevoice
@Heevoice 4 жыл бұрын
@@ianm271 i want kai and hyoyeon. They already collabed and the chemistry was amazing
@JaehyunDimples
@JaehyunDimples 4 жыл бұрын
Jhope and Hyoyeon are the "No visible weakness" culture period! 🙌
@sophias5224
@sophias5224 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Arguing over whether Lisa Momo or Seulgi is the better dancer... Hyoyeon: *Allow me to introduce myself*
@sophias5224
@sophias5224 4 жыл бұрын
Sw-Jichumochi ok then I respect your opinion I personally prefer hyoyeon but Lisa is still a good dancer.
@pamz9574
@pamz9574 4 жыл бұрын
There is gracefulness in her dance. It’s clean and she can do whatever genre. After all, you can’t deny her years of experience in entertainment😎
@twotimes6373
@twotimes6373 4 жыл бұрын
@@TwsWithSai247 bruh thats hilarious
@youreaqt3730
@youreaqt3730 4 жыл бұрын
Sw-Jichumochi Lisa a better dancer?? LMFAO. Sis can’t even choreograph a dance to save her life. Hyoyeon and BoA are the true dance queens.
@solennentowo2818
@solennentowo2818 4 жыл бұрын
Sw-Jichumochi have we watched the same video?
@jqxx2538
@jqxx2538 4 жыл бұрын
*'She already reached her full potential and growth in dancing, and no female idol in the 3rd and 4th generation can outdo her at her best.'* facts. The way Hyoyeon is the highest ranked, she's literally THE dancing queen and dance machine.
@sadianarmin2481
@sadianarmin2481 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this line will spark hate from a particular toxic fandom.
@freshrainbow7823
@freshrainbow7823 4 жыл бұрын
@@sadianarmin2481 blinks or once 😂
@sadianarmin2481
@sadianarmin2481 4 жыл бұрын
@@freshrainbow7823 you guess. you're close!
@freshrainbow7823
@freshrainbow7823 4 жыл бұрын
@@sadianarmin2481 i dont see any fandom more toxic than these two 😂
@sadianarmin2481
@sadianarmin2481 4 жыл бұрын
@@freshrainbow7823 it's a part of one of these fandoms, not the full fandom itself. more like a solo stan.
@uhohididitagain8116
@uhohididitagain8116 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who can appreciate Hyoyeon's dance skills.
@fearidescent206
@fearidescent206 Жыл бұрын
what are you talking about? everyone does lol
@xiaothings2917
@xiaothings2917 4 жыл бұрын
you know the kpop fandom aged horribly when these kids ignore hyoyeon as a top tier dancer. she's been killing it for years. everyone who knows anything about kpop should know she's THAT amazing and untouchable when it comes to dancing
@plip5489
@plip5489 4 жыл бұрын
Me as a kpop fan since the 2nd gen seeing my friends now liking kpop more for their looks and only for the hype.They didn't even bother to dig or search for other really talented or legendary group and insted just like 1 or 2 groups and claiming themselves as "someone who knows everything about kpop" And me as a khh fan now seeing kpop fans nowadays not knowing anything about the actual music, only liking khh artists because of their good looks, not even appreciating their music or artistry. And then saying khh is kpop. 😩😩😩😩😩
@plip5489
@plip5489 4 жыл бұрын
And then putting Hyoyeon in low ranks?! Not even appreciating the freaking talent this girl gives!? They even like to claim "this paved the way" or "that paved the way" but they forgot 1st and 2nd gen were the ones who actually made it possible. Like how Shinee was the first to make dance practice videos that kpop fans enjoy now or the hard choreos that now became a norm and got complimented alot on.
@BeatofAnjel
@BeatofAnjel 4 жыл бұрын
@@plip5489 This. I really can't stand KHH being compared to Kpop or fans trying to pull the most pedantic facts to justify why their favourite idol is comparable an actual KHH artist. It's even worse in China tbh. Kris Wu fans looking at you guys smh
@plip5489
@plip5489 4 жыл бұрын
@@BeatofAnjel They're really trying hard to put khh into the kpop category when even khh artists themselves said they're not kpop and they don't wanna be called kpop, they're khh. really trying hard not to put out names of idol rappers whose fans believe they're "so good" at rapping cause I know I'm gonna get hard backlash, but just so freaking frustrated when the idols in reality either can't rap, mediocre or is not good at all. Did you know someone put Tiger JK and other legendary khh rappers in a KPOP rapper rank and then putting them IN LOW RANKS. LIKE!!! WTF!!! SHOW SOME F'IN RESPECT DUDE! Same with fans who think their idols are "amazing" at dancing when in reality the idol can just do basic moves.
@BeatofAnjel
@BeatofAnjel 4 жыл бұрын
@@plip5489 You got me heated!!! I noticed that newer kpop fans are so defensive sometimes. I could praise someone for being good at something and they will pop up and be like "BuT wHat abOUt my bIAS ReSpECt THeM" What is funny that in South Korea, idols are viewed differently as they should be. There are definitely standouts vocalists (Taeyeon who is now viewed as more of a singer than an idol) or rappers (Zico) but large majority basically exist like instagram or social media influencers. Huge followings, lots of viral moments but they still exist in these large community bubbles. I honestly also hate polls because fans take them as a definitive way of recognizing their idol is the best at something. I will avoid names in case it derails this conversation, but goddamnit, those polls are so off. I would be surprised if kpop fans these days knew who Tiger JK was. Full of idols who get lines fed to them from their companies about relationships they can't/have never been in because if they aren't single, they can't capitalize on people's mental illnesses to generate money. RANT Back on sort of topic, I remember when Hyo was ready to debut, there were tons of dance videos of her and Min from MissA when they were younger and popping. They really tried to market how great of a dancer she was HARD and that often drew criticism, with people saying she was either not pretty enough for the group or a terrible singer. Now she's praised on Good Girl for being a good singer. I feel like SNSD were one of the first groups to really make the "main dancer" title that blatant. Now that the title is basically seen as a necessity in idol groups, they just assign it without actually giving it any substance.
@thehantus9774
@thehantus9774 4 жыл бұрын
SNSD has The best vocalist: Taeyeon The best dancer: Hyoyeon The best visual: Yoona The best variety-dol: Sunny That is why SNSD is legendary
@user-ot6wn1lk4q
@user-ot6wn1lk4q 4 жыл бұрын
YASSSSS
@abjolute
@abjolute 4 жыл бұрын
Amen this should be labelled and poster should be made out of this
@abjolute
@abjolute 4 жыл бұрын
@IDGAF HOE yess
@cherish167
@cherish167 4 жыл бұрын
@IDGAF HOE i'm seo-biased but i think tiffany also deserve to be alongside with seohyun, if you'd look at her recent performances, she has become even better than she was in snsd
@Paperhuman15
@Paperhuman15 4 жыл бұрын
Yuri best tan 😂
@TuanTran-hk8kj
@TuanTran-hk8kj 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like versatility is no longer a strength to Hyoyeon. That's her personality. Female idol, DJ, dancers. I bet this girl is yet to stop at her career
@rubberduckyy0638
@rubberduckyy0638 4 жыл бұрын
I love how OTS promotes some idols better than their own company
@rockett7339
@rockett7339 4 жыл бұрын
"Hyoyeon's skills cant be placed lower than top 3 in the overall sense." Oh the flavour
@snsdtwinkle
@snsdtwinkle 4 жыл бұрын
Weaknesses: “No visible weaknesses in technique” THAT SHIT WAS SO SATISFYING. We really didn’t call her Dancing Queen just for fun all these years. I’m super proud of her and everything she’s accomplished. Happy GG 13th Anniversary!
@anneugene4380
@anneugene4380 4 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: 11 minutes and 51 seconds of praising the legendary dancing machine of a legendary girl group HYOYEON
@victorzaldivargomez4181
@victorzaldivargomez4181 4 жыл бұрын
Facts
@farahfairuz2007
@farahfairuz2007 4 жыл бұрын
Omg yesss talanted queen 👸
@yves7196
@yves7196 4 жыл бұрын
"No visible weakness in technique." Finally, someone who appreciates great dancers. Like most of the time I see Hyoyeon, BoA, Minzy in lower ranks. Just their techniques, versality and dynamics is mindblowing. Thank you On The Scene keep doing great! -2nd Gen & SM stan :>
@cottanibuni2753
@cottanibuni2753 4 жыл бұрын
The stupid reason they’re in lower ranks is because they aren’t as popular or the people see like 2 clips and just judge from that
@gretel654
@gretel654 4 жыл бұрын
​@@cottanibuni2753 Especially because a lot of the time they're intentionally holding back to match their groups. It's an inevitable part of performing in the kpop industry (or performing anywhere, really) if you want the stage to look synchronized. I myself didn't think much of Hyoyeon when I first got into SNSD because I only ever saw group performances, but when I began watching her solo dances I was absolutely blown away. She's so amazingly good at what she does.
@cottanibuni2753
@cottanibuni2753 4 жыл бұрын
Gretel yea, personally I’m not into SNSD, but I do love SHINee and I personally think that Taemin is the best male dancer in Kpop but I didn’t know that in their choreos, actually Taemin did stand out a bit, but lord was I so impressed when I saw Goodbye and and Flame of Love
@Arya_Haris
@Arya_Haris 4 жыл бұрын
the media ranks based solely on popularity ,, i think we should stop trust it,,
@eri6984
@eri6984 4 жыл бұрын
Low ranks? What in the world????
@blinkonce3934
@blinkonce3934 4 жыл бұрын
So many people underestimate her so much when she’s proven her skills time and time again over countless years. One of the staple main dancers in this industry and I hope to see her mentor in dancing programs since she’s already polished her skill/style. Sm truly holds some of the best dancers in this kpop
@MythicalMacaron
@MythicalMacaron 4 жыл бұрын
yup and those people understimating her are not kpop fan until 3rd gen dominates the industry
@georgina2230
@georgina2230 4 жыл бұрын
whats her group, i wanna watch more of her
@MythicalMacaron
@MythicalMacaron 4 жыл бұрын
@@georgina2230 Girls generation they are called Nations Girlgroup
@blinkonce3934
@blinkonce3934 4 жыл бұрын
Georgina Girl’s Generation or Snsd:)
@georgina2230
@georgina2230 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys @Silver Rain and @ Blink Once. I knew I had seen her somewhere, and im so surprised to see that she is overlooked by people. SMH, the world these days
@wouterknst4877
@wouterknst4877 4 жыл бұрын
every time i see a “best female dancers in kpop” video they never mention hyoyeon or minzy, who are by far the two best female damcers in kpop to me. finally someone who sees that too!
@user-zb3np7xo1i
@user-zb3np7xo1i 4 жыл бұрын
True. They do not even acknowledge BoA too. Those three are beasts esp in old school locking/popping and hiphop.
@gio_graphy
@gio_graphy 4 жыл бұрын
Who the hell are they mentioning then?
@wouterknst4877
@wouterknst4877 4 жыл бұрын
@@gio_graphy mostly 3rd and 4th gen dancers. chaeyeon, lisa, momo, etc. and of course they're all incredible dancers, but people tend to forget about the OGs
@jade5030
@jade5030 4 жыл бұрын
They should watch Hyoyeon or Minzy dance
@iloveasylums2506
@iloveasylums2506 4 жыл бұрын
Min from Miss A Hyoyeon from SNSD BoA the queen of KPOP Minzy from 2NE1 Hyolyn from SISTAR They aren't talk as much but they're the best female dancers in KPOP hands down
@MissTsoisauce
@MissTsoisauce 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know she's a top tier dancer? Hyoyeon makes everything look easy, even stuff you know is difficult. Edit: I would love to see an analysis of Taemin, even though we already know he's top tier.
@mutiaraemillia5758
@mutiaraemillia5758 4 жыл бұрын
YASS TAEMIN PLS ಥ‿ಥ im deadly curious
@cactussmith1517
@cactussmith1517 4 жыл бұрын
They already mentioned on their blog that he is coming soon
@mutiaraemillia5758
@mutiaraemillia5758 4 жыл бұрын
@@cactussmith1517 woah, glad to hear that! never know they had a blog, gonna check them right away, thanks!
@callisu6019
@callisu6019 4 жыл бұрын
I think he's coming on the 19th
@ottopaul6269
@ottopaul6269 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i think this is why some of her naysayers... say nay. To an untrained eye, her making things look so easy... well... makes it look easy. Other notable dancers (who ARE great, i'm not disrespecting) will often over-dance and add flairs to stand out, which can be visually appealing in focused fan cam, and stand out next to their group, but that is exactly the fault here. The best dancers in the world don't try to look like the obviously best dancer on their team. They try to make their team look like the obviously best team.
@unknownyeah393
@unknownyeah393 4 жыл бұрын
As expected from SNSD *MAIN DANCER*
@benayanozal9219
@benayanozal9219 4 жыл бұрын
Nah she’s kpop’s main dancer😌😌
@Atinyharibo
@Atinyharibo 4 жыл бұрын
hakasims That’s why SNSD were my ults when they were active. Along with 2ne1, I think that they were/are one of the best girl groups out there.
@Sona-np2ju
@Sona-np2ju 4 жыл бұрын
@@hakasims AND top tier visual too
@kalene044
@kalene044 4 жыл бұрын
They are not top tier, they are GOD tier in kpop industry. There are a lot of artists in kpop who are top tier, but Taeyeon, Hyoyeon, and Yoona are GOD tiers in their own spheres. GGs: Mamamoo and Wendy RV have BIG potential or is almost there for vocals. Only Minzy share this level with Hyoyeon. Yoona could potentially share this level with a lot of idols e.g. Irene RV, Dara 2ne1, Sana Twice (not Tzuyu because until now she hasnt done anything with her robotic expressions), but given the very diverse concepts that SNSD has done, she can fit any theme, and when Yoona takes center, you know its on and she commands. Plus not to mention she's a total CF queen, actress, variety, model, and diversely talented.
@agungarta1476
@agungarta1476 4 жыл бұрын
@@hakasims and top tier visual
@chuuu4610
@chuuu4610 4 жыл бұрын
I requested this one! I’m sure a lot of people have. Honestly whenever I think of well respected female idols in dance I think of Hyoyeon and BoA. I’m not shading younger idols since my favorite dance position idol is Seulgi but I just kind of instinctively think of these two because the first kpop artists I was ever introduced to (in depth) were BoA and SNSD. I was a bit saddened that she isn’t mentioned much anymore even though she was such a big deal among SONE and 2nd gen fans in general. I’m glad she was acknowledged here. I also just love her as a person since she’s so savage and funny but thats unrelated. Thank you!
@chryztalll
@chryztalll 4 жыл бұрын
BoA? You mean BoA who sang Inuyasha songs? OMG i did not know she's a dancer. I used to save japanese anime lyrics from her anime songs memorize and sing it when i was a kid. Her anime songs are a big part of my childhood. OMG mind blown, she can sing and dance she's That Talented.
@saramaria2111
@saramaria2111 4 жыл бұрын
@@chryztalll Boa still is and for a long time has been easily one of the best female dancers in the industry.
@hangghanggg
@hangghanggg 4 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you for requesting Hyoyeon. Honestly until now I feel like people haven't seen her full potentials and appreciated her enough. Her dancing style might not really fit most of SNSD's songs, but she always knows how to shine.
@kuroneko8343
@kuroneko8343 4 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way. Hyoyeon might not be my personal favorite dancer but shes a legend and someone I immediately think of when I think best kpop dancers.
@killbethy
@killbethy 4 жыл бұрын
To make it even more fun, before Hyoyeon even debuted, she was the shadow double for BoA during her 2005 Mnet Over the Top performance! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYSsYqx7gryjkNk
@idk6918
@idk6918 4 жыл бұрын
imagine having a group with a top tier dancer, top tier vocalist and a top tier visual. sm groups can relate. but seriously hyoyeon is a freaking goddess. her freestyle in knowing bros was amazing, and i don’t think one performance of hers didn’t impress me. she, minzy and boa are the best female dancers and that is that.
@agungarta1476
@agungarta1476 4 жыл бұрын
And not to mention top tier visual.
@idk6918
@idk6918 4 жыл бұрын
@agung arta oh ofc ofc. yoona is a visual goddess. sm visuals never disappoint.
@RunnyBabbits
@RunnyBabbits 4 жыл бұрын
Like seriously. Such a well rounded group. No group is like them.
@aeniasdf.5200
@aeniasdf.5200 4 жыл бұрын
i'm a JYP stan but i agree !! SM artists are so talented
@hawkflame9584
@hawkflame9584 3 жыл бұрын
Also so much versatility in all of them. Taeyeon can sing any song. Hyoyeon can dance any dance. Any concept will work great with Yoona as visual. That’s why they produce so many hits in so many different styles.
@chewy7289
@chewy7289 4 жыл бұрын
"And no female idol in 3rd and 4th generatiom can outdo at her best." PERIODT.
@begel7992
@begel7992 4 жыл бұрын
When most kpop community saying that Hyoyeon is the best dancer, you're agree or not, it cannot change the fact she's the best dancer.
@zerodevour
@zerodevour 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! This is so accurate! She is, always will be the no.1 main dancer in the industry. I am really sad because new fans in the 3rd generation is underestimating her. Those bandwagons are ignorants and doesn't even accept criticism and don't want to educate themselves. Well I hope that this video will get really popular so that people will see that she is beyond and she is the top.
@redpanda7277
@redpanda7277 4 жыл бұрын
I can't take Stans who say any of the 3rd/4th gen dancers are the best dancer seriously. They're great but hyoyeon, boa and minzy would probably be the best.
@anamiramin3613
@anamiramin3613 4 жыл бұрын
Just accept that they are ignorant to accept the fact that the seniors are totally different from their idol..
@offwheat9403
@offwheat9403 4 жыл бұрын
i saw hyoyeon and ran here as fast as i could
@hanahanamogo
@hanahanamogo 4 жыл бұрын
OMFG SAMEEEEE!!!!!
@elleonesarte2024
@elleonesarte2024 4 жыл бұрын
That "no visible weakness in technique" though!
@imjoanneg
@imjoanneg 4 жыл бұрын
No visible weakness. Yeah, that's our Queen Hyoyeon 💯
@buldakcarbo
@buldakcarbo 4 жыл бұрын
i love how it went "no visible weaknesses in technique" and just continued 😹
@pororo9537
@pororo9537 4 жыл бұрын
When people ask me who I think is the best dancer in KPOP, they usually say “Is it Seulgi? Momo or Lisa”. I answer “It’s Hyoyeon and BoA”, the other girls could still learn a lot from the legends
@andrikfelix6507
@andrikfelix6507 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, Lisa and Momo are my favorite dancers, but I'm so sad that they never appreciate Hyoyeon, I know that most kpop fans right now like only the 3rd and 4th generation groups, but they need to appreciate other idols :(
@arunimapal531
@arunimapal531 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrikfelix6507 Me too.
@jamilavillanueva7356
@jamilavillanueva7356 4 жыл бұрын
Gonna add minzy in here, the girl is somewhat same age with today's generation but it a lot better with YEARS of experience.
@odanana3469
@odanana3469 4 жыл бұрын
She's so talented when i saw all of her perfomances in "Hit the Stage". while other artists did their best in their comfort zone genre, Hyoyeon always had various genre and performances out of her comfort zone and did her best. challenging herself and enjoyed it so much that's why i respect her a lot
@alyssaperez374
@alyssaperez374 4 жыл бұрын
Kai - No visible weakness Hyoyeon - No visible weakness SM's Main Dancers are out of this world.
@moonsmien
@moonsmien 4 жыл бұрын
as someone who has been a fan of snsd from the beginning of time, hyoyeon has always been our greatest pride when it comes to dancing. all this time i knew that she was the best in her league although i cannot pinpoint exactly what things were she amazing at and what were her weaknesses. this video just helped me with that and i want to thank you for taking time analyzing it and explaining it to us non dancers in such an easy way !! now i know why hyoyeon is praised by critics all the time, why they call her the dancing machine, and why so many idols look up to her as their inspiration for dancing and becoming an idol. ps: pls keep posting because you're the only person who ranks dancers that i trust lmAO
@k.iskander.k7182
@k.iskander.k7182 4 жыл бұрын
Finally an unbiased dance analysis! those people who claim to be dancers and make rankings according to popularity just to gain views are full of BS!! so biased and never known any other Kpop dancer well other than those who are their biases or from the new gen!
@itskateeee
@itskateeee 4 жыл бұрын
This made me feel emotional, she is my favourite dancer and having the opportunity to see more in depth of her tecniques it was really interesting. She is so inspiring, thanks for doing this series, it's amazing! :)
@minbinbunnies5327
@minbinbunnies5327 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: NO ONE CAN BEAT GIRLS’ GENERATION’S HYOYEON WHEN IT COMES TO DANCING!!! Also 2NE1’S MINZY
@sonezent3482
@sonezent3482 4 жыл бұрын
in my opinion miss A min is better than minzy
@Blanka767
@Blanka767 4 жыл бұрын
Hope Cherry Lee Chaeyeon and Chungha can beat minzy
@Blanka767
@Blanka767 4 жыл бұрын
sone indo Underrated queen :'(
@shreyarath5208
@shreyarath5208 4 жыл бұрын
@@sonezent3482 ig she can
@lyn-kt3sx
@lyn-kt3sx 4 жыл бұрын
agree with the hyoyeon one but not with minzy . i think 3rd gem dancer can beat minzy
@fantasticelastic
@fantasticelastic 4 жыл бұрын
omg the fact that u uploaded this on snsd's anniversary thank u so much
@hersheys8919
@hersheys8919 4 жыл бұрын
HYOYEON GETTING THE TIER SHE DESERVES 👏
@caratjoy8586
@caratjoy8586 4 жыл бұрын
Man everyone forgets about this queen but not this channel and i’m living for it. She is the true dance queen
@offwheat9403
@offwheat9403 4 жыл бұрын
no weaknesses! wow look how she ate that! queen hyoyeon! growing up listening to snsd since i was a kid i always thought she looked like she was floating on air whenever she danced
@rallllooooo
@rallllooooo 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon biggest strength is her ability to fully control any parts of her body. Many main dancers eventhough skillful, you can see there are certain areas on their body they kinda weak at partially because they focus more to polish their strength rather than focusing to fix their weaknesses. For dancers like hyoyeon, she fix her weaknesses so she able to explore or polish her skills overall as she already overcome her barrier.
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 4 жыл бұрын
That is why we love HYO...
@KPOPDanceDeepDives
@KPOPDanceDeepDives 4 жыл бұрын
I agree! There are some dancers with habits that continue for the entire time they dance (ex: Lisa’s broken wrists) but Hyoyeon’s technique always seems so balanced. You can really tell that she is super thoughtful about her own movements, and that SM has great teachers.
@khanh9751
@khanh9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@KPOPDanceDeepDives and now Hyoyeon is a dance teacher at SM
@faza5389
@faza5389 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like she can control all of her cells on her body to move
@syncrdbl
@syncrdbl 4 жыл бұрын
Right on SNSD’s anniversary! Hope you’re well too!
@Sohviiii
@Sohviiii 4 жыл бұрын
"No female in the third or fourth generation can outdo her." SOMEONE SAID IT. FINALLY. THANK YOU. Thank you for doing your research on her. Thank you for not being biased. And thank you for recognizing her. I've been a Hyoyeon stan for a decade now, and this is the best analysis that i've ever watched about her. I noticed how good she was a lot back then, such as her ability to execute ballroom dancing and hip hop excellently. But you elaborated her abilities in a more specific and organized manner. And I couldn't help but also see that there isn't a female dancer among the third and fourth generation that could outdo her. Thank you again. 😭
@pinkgangsta6157
@pinkgangsta6157 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon is S TIER Main Dancer She is also good rapper, vocalist, Song writer, DJ-ing, Variety God, Model, Etc She's funny, witty, humble too
@SOSHIATE
@SOSHIATE 4 жыл бұрын
S+ DARLING S+.
@andrikfelix6507
@andrikfelix6507 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that she's a good rapper, but she's the best dancer, I think she is more than a good vocalist, she's a GREAT vocalist
@SOSHIATE
@SOSHIATE 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrikfelix6507 I AGREE she's a Meh when it comes to rapping but dayum she can sing amd dance
@pinkgangsta6157
@pinkgangsta6157 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrikfelix6507 She's meh when only rapping. But when she start rap, sing, dance and dj-ing at the same time, the world is shocked
@goldennovember3064
@goldennovember3064 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon is always sone's pride in term of dancing. Everytime there's a breakdance sone would always chanting her name it makes me so happy. I would like to see an analysis about minzy, boa and chungha next. Thank you so much for the analysis^^
@chimneywentian1073
@chimneywentian1073 4 жыл бұрын
WHEN OTHER KPOP AGENCIES SAID "SM ENT IS GOOD IN SINGING ONLY". THE MAIN DANCERS TIER REVEAL : Hyoyeon - S RANK (GIRLS GENERATION) Taemin - S RANK (SHINEE) Kai - S RANK (EXO) Seulgi - A RANK (RED VELVET) Jisung - A RANK (NCT DREAM) Taeyong - A RANK (NCT 127) OTHER KPOP AGENCIES : (SHOCK!!)
@whenyousmileismiletoo5419
@whenyousmileismiletoo5419 4 жыл бұрын
TENNNN YUNHOOO TAEMINNN BOAAA
@laurarayleigh9706
@laurarayleigh9706 4 жыл бұрын
Please not forgetting Eunhyuk too
@theopollind8024
@theopollind8024 4 жыл бұрын
@@laurarayleigh9706 eunhyuk is actually S+ Rank on his best. On a Tuesday, he's S Rank.
@theopollind8024
@theopollind8024 4 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-vu2ne yeah, it's sad because at the height of SuJu during the 2nd gen era, people gave him his epithet of Dance Machine
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 4 жыл бұрын
me when they say that sm ent. only strength is visual and vocal compared to the other companies: 👁️👄👁️
@leviathandewarrenne394
@leviathandewarrenne394 4 жыл бұрын
That's the main dancer of the National Girl Group right there. Thanks so much for your analysis
@leviathandewarrenne394
@leviathandewarrenne394 4 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that she dared to step outside her comfort zone not once, twice but multiple times is really admirable, and by that I mean not only in dance but also in other fields
@leviathandewarrenne394
@leviathandewarrenne394 4 жыл бұрын
@FreakLEL okay clearly you didnt see the video and didnt read articles bye lol
@helenaanjos3382
@helenaanjos3382 4 жыл бұрын
FreakLEL both of them can have that title, just like how both Red Velvet and Sistar share the summer queens title
@Lawren2222_
@Lawren2222_ 4 жыл бұрын
"No visible weakness." Well thats snsd's main dancer And of course hyoyeon is named as one of the best female dancer of all-time. Also Boa, Yuri, Victoria, Seulgi, Luna and Irene too is top tier sm dancer like hyo
@Lawren2222_
@Lawren2222_ 4 жыл бұрын
@JRE Ibanez Well your not me so "I CAN INCLUDE HER." Now excuse me and mind your own business okay, get the hell outta here will ya?!?
@vangoghsnight4268
@vangoghsnight4268 4 жыл бұрын
@JRE Ibanez Yuri is the 2nd best dancer in SNSD, and Yuri is actually really good to. Can easily be a main dancer in any other group
@pinkgangsta6157
@pinkgangsta6157 4 жыл бұрын
@JRE Ibanez Yuri actually really good, but idk maybe she has alot of hobbies than dance 😂 she's chef now
@vanhminglianitochhawng3209
@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 4 жыл бұрын
@JRE Ibanez yeah nobody is on the same level as hyo lol but yuri can definitely dance out literally 90%of today's main dancers don't @ me
@jqxx2538
@jqxx2538 4 жыл бұрын
@@vanhminglianitochhawng3209 facts lol people don't give snsd's dance line recognition they deserve. They see 'clean' and 'powerful' and they think it always means better. However I must say imo, out of the female dancers mentioned, only boa is at hyo's tier. Hyoyeon is better than the rest by margins.
@abjolute
@abjolute 4 жыл бұрын
The last slide was so satisfying to read.The praise that she deserves. I mean I know and love how talented seulgi,momo,Lisa,Chungha ,chayeon etc are at dancing but none of them can even come close to hyoyeon's level of skill in dancing she is literal monster
@jebiwonnn
@jebiwonnn 4 жыл бұрын
we knew that the other popping queen is minzy
@Semiria5
@Semiria5 4 жыл бұрын
Knew it right away lmao
@avic7248
@avic7248 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i thought so too lmao
@dewimarthaandyani
@dewimarthaandyani 4 жыл бұрын
I just want to say this
@mr.m1955
@mr.m1955 4 жыл бұрын
Like how can people not-
@lvlykonig
@lvlykonig 4 жыл бұрын
This rookie girl from ANS, Bian it's really good at popping too. She's promising 👀
@31563436
@31563436 4 жыл бұрын
hyo is so painfully underrated, especially with 3rd/4th gen fans. it was so great to see her get the recognition she deserves here
@jeroyah8537
@jeroyah8537 4 жыл бұрын
predebut hyoyeon was already SO talented that no matter how many changes were made on snsd’s line up, she never left the list of trainees that are set to debut. 👑 also, the way you dropped this on snsd’s 13th anniversary 👀 snsd really are the idol of idols.
@reve004
@reve004 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you OTS for explaining that she is The Queen of Main Dancers
@taeslilclown9801
@taeslilclown9801 4 жыл бұрын
Only reason she’s an underrated dancer’s cause snsd was more of a vocal-focused group, and it’s not like favouritism was in her favour which was extremely unfortunate
@khanh9751
@khanh9751 4 жыл бұрын
Not really, snsd is also famous for their synchronization and their choreographies, it’s just that SM promoted the visual members and the vocal line more. Hyoyeon was given less parts and under appreciated
@kaitlyn8843
@kaitlyn8843 4 жыл бұрын
@@khanh9751 they were famous for simple/catchy choreo bits, similar to twice now.
@khanh9751
@khanh9751 4 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn8843 Depends, I would not dare say Into the new world, I got a boy and Catch me if you can are easy, those are some of the most complex and exhausting choreos for GGs up till nowadays
@TA-sq6uo
@TA-sq6uo 4 жыл бұрын
No she has never been underrated. Even when snsd on their peak, every variety shows always likely to see her dance (esp her popping). The term of dancing machine was started because of her (and BoA as a dancing queen) and snsd members always choose her and got excited whenever she danced. But she never really outdo her members in a dance group (that's how humble she was), except when it comes to her solo dance part. The problem is (imho) the 3rd and 4th gen fans always think their idol is superb and they will always be number one when they never really see hyo on dancing with the star or hit the stage (she was the only female idol who's winning on hts!). No, they dont care as long as their idol is number one on the list who was made not even from a real dancer.
@khanh9751
@khanh9751 4 жыл бұрын
TA That’s true, I mean she was not amongst the most hyped members but the disrespect began because most younger fans don’t know the full scale of her abilities
@puteria2599
@puteria2599 4 жыл бұрын
me throughout the beginning of this video: oooh the description is really different than others >> oooh she have a LOT of strength guess she will haven't a weaknesses 10:04 appears: I TOLD U LAD
@AyamechanxX
@AyamechanxX 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, louder for the people sleeping on Hyoyeon. Thank you for your awesome content as always! I can't wait to see your Taemin analysis!
@assehc09
@assehc09 4 жыл бұрын
Ugh. finally. A legit analysis of dancing techniques! This was also my observations when i first saw Hyoyeon in 2009. That 'Anonymous' dance video with Jaewon really got me stanning because her moves from her head to toes are so....i dont know what words to use. Body coordination? Fluidity? It's like every movement is literally connected and you can clearly see it flow through her body. That video, her 'So Sick' performance (concert), and the SM Town dance relay (Go Girl) from SMTOWN concert are definitely my top 3 favorites. Superb dancing indeed. I totally agreed when you said she's on the top 3 and unbeatable.
@maeganvillar7612
@maeganvillar7612 4 жыл бұрын
This! I was actually just waiting for an actual dancer that recognise Hyo’s actual skill among other kpop main dancers/dancers. because for some reason most if not all Dancer Ranking Videos ive seen (randomly) they always place Hyo low or not in the list at all. Like this girl never ceases to amaze me every time she comes out on another dance show. Like how much more can she grow.
@bwcenter95
@bwcenter95 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, even there are already many clip of pro dancer praising Hyo, there are still so many others group fan disrespect her dancing. At least there is 1 more video we can show to those who disrespect her skill as a dancer. Thank you!
@Mostly_Ranting
@Mostly_Ranting 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon's dancing is just so perfect. To me, she's the standard for a Main Dancer. Not just the best dancer at debut but someone who genuinely loves dancing and constantly works at improving. I feel that is something a lot of 3rd and 4th gen main dancers are lacking.
@lewlavabra6811
@lewlavabra6811 4 жыл бұрын
as soon as i saw the word 'footwork' i KNEW "punk right now" was about to show up... that choreography is absolutely incredible, dare i say one of the top 5 best k-pop choreos ever ? it looks awfully difficult but she makes it look effortless. i was never even a fan of snsd, and didn't actually know hyoyeon even existed until that song came out, but when it did, boyyyy did i go wild... one dance practice video was enough for me to realize this girl must be in the top ten best k-pop dancers of all times. she blew me away. i would probably sell my kidney just to have a one-hour dance class with her...
@user-zb3np7xo1i
@user-zb3np7xo1i 3 жыл бұрын
Her shuffles are effortlessly done.
@EEEHajuOnline
@EEEHajuOnline 4 жыл бұрын
hyoyeon (and queen boa) walked so the rest could run ☝🏻 happy anniversary snsd, you absolute legends! so happy dancesport was covered as well, it’s such an underrated style of dance, hyoyeon absolutely nailed it! i’m honestly curious for hyoyeon to try tackle belly dance, her torso control and isolations are insane. and also hope you’re feeling better too OTS!
@hhomebody
@hhomebody 4 жыл бұрын
we all can agree that her popping is seriously on another level, especially as a female 😍😍 my queen
@valrojas15
@valrojas15 4 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon is my favorite kpop dancer of all the times, she's my bigggest role model for sure! Thanks for your videos, it helps me a lot to improve mi technique!
@multistan940
@multistan940 4 жыл бұрын
The original dancing queen!
@callmekeitha
@callmekeitha 4 жыл бұрын
*"I was pretty skeptical of those people who underestimated her and place her low on rankings than what her skills are really at"* SPEAK LOUDER SIS!!
@LinCebra1235
@LinCebra1235 4 жыл бұрын
OMG I´m so happy that you keep posting! Thank you so much, this series helps me a lot with my dancing, you are a really big inspiration for me. Thanks!
@Vanessa-lx1gr
@Vanessa-lx1gr 4 жыл бұрын
She is my favorite. Has been my favorite dancer in kpop there's a long time. Hyoyeon is the first female idol in your analysis who is in the S ranking and I'm so sooo proud of her. New kpop fans who is so obsessed with their favs usually ignore her because she is from 2nd generation and actually, Hyoyeon is a bit underrated in her own group, so.... But I'm happy with this, she is above the kpop idol dancing to me Maybe Taemin is the next? After Kai-Seulgi, JHope-SinB, Momo-Yugyeom, you have some pattern with the labels
@chuu8931
@chuu8931 4 жыл бұрын
now i can show this to anyone who claims that hyoyeon isn’t a great dancer 😌
@ningningwonderpets4773
@ningningwonderpets4773 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who watched SNSD for almost 7 years I can really say that no one, like no ONE can get close of how a queen Hyoyeon is in dancing. SNSD's main are literally the best of their own fields out of all SM trainees in their time. Hyoyeon was trained together with boys trainees because that's how good she is, Taeyeon always in the top 1 vocalist in their trainee evaluation, and Yoona who is one of the most beautiful idol you've ever seen. Other members even though not a main can be mains if put into other group.
@mayhemark
@mayhemark 4 жыл бұрын
Omygodddddd....i screamed sooooo loud i'm so happy u evaluated Hyoyeon...you are gonna make my whole day shine...the only S class female dancer so far..t.hat's snsd's hyo #sone
@allindazai1833
@allindazai1833 4 жыл бұрын
She's a queen legend. No matter the generation of kpop bc she's always there. She's really talented
@calmtfdownbeach4792
@calmtfdownbeach4792 4 жыл бұрын
This just shows how very passionate is Hyo when it comes to dancing. Yes, specializing in one genre/style is indeed amazing, but a dancer that tries more than what they are used to, it shows how confident they are in their capabilities. Not to mention, her control and mastery in her specialties shows her dedication and hardwork. That's why Hyoyeon for me is indeed the dancing queen. I'd only take BoA, Minzy and Kahi as up there with her on the same pedestal and a few steps lower, maybe Chaeyeon from izOne and Chungha based on what I've seen so far from this generation.
@pluviophile612
@pluviophile612 4 жыл бұрын
I really love this girl, she is so fierce in stage, and maybe the funniest girl Ive ever know... When someone ask me why Snsd is Queen, I will give this as a receipe. Snsd truly once in life time. During their peak, they have everything to solidify their position as NGG
@michaelferido2802
@michaelferido2802 4 жыл бұрын
No 3rd or 4th gen idol can outdo her PREACHHH!!
@mysonebebe
@mysonebebe 4 жыл бұрын
"NO VISIBLE WEAKNESS IN TECHNIQUE" A tear dropped down my eyes. So proud of her
@saturn2247
@saturn2247 4 жыл бұрын
her strengths are literally a lot you could talk abt her strengths forever omg thats how talented she is.....🥺
@patfloren1766
@patfloren1766 4 жыл бұрын
when i saw this video my head got me question “WHO IS SHE?” and then i play, i realizes that she is a monster. Sorry im not 2nd gen stan sorry
@itskateeee
@itskateeee 4 жыл бұрын
If you wanna know more about her listen her last single 'Dessert', she also have amazing songs :)
@jenoscat3268
@jenoscat3268 4 жыл бұрын
Check out her song “Punk Right Now” I really like it
@asonewhoonceblinkedbecamea9909
@asonewhoonceblinkedbecamea9909 4 жыл бұрын
It's okay as long as you appreciate her talent :-D
@bluequeen8022
@bluequeen8022 4 жыл бұрын
You can totally check girls generation and hyo out! There is a lot of content (hilarious and tbh full of talent) out there!
@cutiieeepatootieee2002
@cutiieeepatootieee2002 4 жыл бұрын
listen to sober
@lc0260
@lc0260 4 жыл бұрын
SAME TIRED OF SEEING DANCE RANKINGS CAUSE WE ALL KNOW HYO IS THE QUEEN.
@hyoranmichan9193
@hyoranmichan9193 4 жыл бұрын
Taemin and Hyoyeon, the Main Dancer of 2nd Generation both holds the highest score for female and male idol. Damn. SM isn't the best but they sure have the best. Their vocal, dance and visual line all slaying!
@theofilazs
@theofilazs 4 жыл бұрын
No visible weakness. Well, she just a perfection.
@reveloona3467
@reveloona3467 4 жыл бұрын
YES. As a dancer she is one of the few idols that inspire me to improve my dancing
@infinitelynine070805
@infinitelynine070805 4 жыл бұрын
Always liked these videos because they're very detailed and informative. I'm glad you're able to analyze Hyoyeon now too! Stream DESSERT everyone!
@reginadalle4063
@reginadalle4063 4 жыл бұрын
Will you do Chungha? Also I'd love to see one analyzing Chaeyeon, and CLC's Seungyeon
@hardy6023
@hardy6023 4 жыл бұрын
She already do chungha i know you already see it😆 also i think chaeyeon grade will lower than chungha but seungyeon same or above chungha
@iloveasylums2506
@iloveasylums2506 4 жыл бұрын
That botting clip of her still amazes me❤️❤️ I literally don't see a human acting like a robot but a robot itself...my skills of botting gone with a flick of her pops
@jyr6453
@jyr6453 4 жыл бұрын
I clicked so fast for the one and only Dancing Queen Hyoyeon❤️👑
@urwnrwl5396
@urwnrwl5396 4 жыл бұрын
She’s just so unique. That’s what I find most admirable about her. She’s used styles that new generation female idols (or maybe any female idol) would rarely ever used, and she’s mastered them. So great 👍🏻
@serenahale1102
@serenahale1102 4 жыл бұрын
The way I smiled through all this knowing for years that she truly is amazing! I even went "HA" out loud when I saw the weakness. She truly is an 'S' and God tier. Fun Fact: Hyoyeon can memorize a dance by watching a video just a handful of times.
@soumyaprasad4029
@soumyaprasad4029 2 жыл бұрын
Hyoyeon’s popping and locking are so satisfying!!! Her isolations are *chefs kiss* would love to see her slay tutting 🤌🤌✨✨
@wonyoelotito94
@wonyoelotito94 4 жыл бұрын
I am so attracted by the way she dances. She is such a genius! I loved the video, thanks
@Dream-jy7zm
@Dream-jy7zm 4 жыл бұрын
Yesss say it out loud!! Dancing machine in your area 😂 people definitely underestimated her. I once hear an older generation female idol saying although they are still quite young, older generation idols were treated like “expired and used” idols which is really sad. People underestimate older generation idols and overestimate the popular ones, really hope the younger generation can see the shining older gen idols just the way they are.
@missrizza0609
@missrizza0609 4 жыл бұрын
You know, I love you so much. I really appreciate that you did this analysis. I’m so sick and tired of delusional fans underestimating her skills. We all know she’s god-tier in dancing yet, because she’s in the older generation of idols, people are saying the new generation have already passed her. I can’t believe the disrespect. Again, thank you so much for doing this analysis. Tbh, this is the only channel I watch the ad for.
@fin8253
@fin8253 4 жыл бұрын
This woman is a legend. No doubt many dancers in kpop today do not hesitate to say that she's been one of their inspirations.
@CatarinaRock
@CatarinaRock 4 жыл бұрын
YEEES I WAS WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG!!!!!!! Now i just need BoA and Minzy T_______T *2ng gen heart is happy for now*
@chryztalll
@chryztalll 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is the first time i've seen her cos i'm new to gg i have been just casually watching some videos here in YT but yeah, so far she's the BEST female dancer i've seen! Her isolation reminds me of Hobi. She's in the God tier! She's way above the rest.
@Gretaisworking
@Gretaisworking 4 жыл бұрын
SCREECHING I joked to myself "does she even have weaknesses" and she DOESN'T wow legends only
@pinkgangsta6157
@pinkgangsta6157 4 жыл бұрын
You know what ? This is like birthday present for SONE haha Happy 13th Anniversary SNSD and SONE I'm here after Yuri's table video 😂
@DK-gk7qh
@DK-gk7qh 4 жыл бұрын
"No female idol in the 3rd or 4th generation can outdo her at her best" perfectly said. Whether people want it or not, Hyoyeon has yet to be surpassed in this industry. Versality, Power and Technique, she excells in them all. Kim Hyoyeon is a gem, she's been praised many times by prodessionals but also by her labelmates to be excellent and even better than professionaĺ dancers. As said in the video, i think Hyoyeon has reached a peak where it's nearly impossible to outdo at her best. She has such a perfect control and knowledge of her abilities and technique. I think it's safe to say Hyoyeon might be the best female dancer kpop has known. Btw thank you for making this video, it's really great! 😊
@markandreigamboa5774
@markandreigamboa5774 4 жыл бұрын
What makes Hyo unique among main dancers is her superb fluidity and movement isolation rather than over the place energy of some dancers. I personally think that over energy in dancing is used to mask lack of technique. Hyo makes sure not to over exaggerate her moves but still make them on point.
@hardy6023
@hardy6023 4 жыл бұрын
Also how much hyoyeon improve her energy control have you seen her energy in trainee wow she amazing but a little over i thinks,kzbin.info/www/bejne/o56ueGRtec-Yj6M
@honeyandboba7994
@honeyandboba7994 3 жыл бұрын
dude she was Janet Jackson’s backup dancer before being a KPOP idol that says a lot
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