How good is the EOTECH G43 3x Magnifier? Hatchet Cast "SHOP TALK" Episode ST33

[@sublimetulii23]

G33 eye relief: 2.3” FOV: 7.3° G43 eye relief: 2.5” FOV: 7.5° G45 eye relief: 2.6” FOV: 4.4°

[@SirPlsCalmDown]

Loving the content. Yall don't just talk, but actually show what you're discussing in the field. This channel is going places.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks for the support and glad you liked the video!

[@SuperDimi111]

Your combo of b-role and shop talk is just amazing. Really appreciate you guys spending your valuable time to give me entertainment and knowledge.

[@simpleinstinct]

The comment everyone came here to say.

[@maverickmartinez7776]

The vids are getting better and better! Keep up the great content boys!

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks so much!! Glad you are here

[@michaelgee7509]

Watching this video as I attach my RMR on top of my TA01NSN. Love you guys videos. Shout out to Ben for upgrading the ACOG. I also ordered the Kram and a MI QD mount. Good stuff guys

[@mikeheadless]

Great video as always! Something I didn't know until I got my Vortex Mirco3 and Huey Gen 2 is how much it "clears up" some of the fuzziness people don't like about Holo sights.

[@josiahb55]

Good review, running the vortex 3x magnifier and for the sub $300 price point I couldn't be happier.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Each we got on the vortex in one of our other shop talk episodes and we loved the price point and the quality was good

[@Totallycooldude100]

Keep this stuff coming guys! Ya'll are the only channel I watch regarding shooting/the firearms world. Love the B-roll footage, as well as the informed opinions and overall down-to-earth presentation. Looking forward to the day I can meet you guys in person out there at the ranch!

[@jeremygilbert3099]

I'm a Riverview guy and it's nice to learn you guys are just next door! I think a good video would be 'camo for Florida/jungle' or something to that regard

[@loganmays8481]

Man I love y’all’s content. I can’t get enough. Yet I also can’t get over the chest rig deal and how I was treated. I emailed multiple times with no response regarding my harness. We also ended up not getting the lizard tongue. That was the selling point. Y’all are good dudes. Just really sucks that there was the this huge lack of communication. I hope y’all do well from the bottom of my heart.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks for the support and sorry to hear about the chest rig issues with the harness. We took a look back into gear and are going to be taking a hard look at how to streamline things . If we do any more gear related products they will def be small batch so we can manage emails a lot better. Thanks for the support and the honest feedback. Again we are bummed about that whole situation and really apologize for that experience.

[@Breese147]

I’ll be honest I love my g33 exps combo and I just got back to using it after being in Germany for 3 years. I tried stretching my DDV7 gen 1 to 445 meters with about 10 shots and 1 landed. But I was having trouble with clarity and just being able to see the target. I can smack 300 all day with 3x but I’m thinking of switching to a 4x or even 5x to be able to touch 500 yards. Awesome video and good review!

[@borghini3580]

Best channel out there just found y’all out a couple days ago. Love the format.

[@barrelandhatchet]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🫡

[@mrdanielwon]

Great combination of podcast style review and B roll footage. Super enjoy it and thanks for sharing your thoughts on the magnifier

[@MIKE-br2lz]

Heck ya thank you guys awesome short and sweet.

[@jimmybronco5336]

This video will heavily impact my decision on whether I get the Vortex Micro 3x or this EOTech G43. Cost won't be too big of a deal for me. I want what is better for my EXPS3.

[@kristophercantu9935]

I assume you went with the G43 then? I can't tell you how impressed I was when I mounted mine. Crystal clear!

[@jimmybronco5336]

@@kristophercantu9935 I about to buy an EOtech Magnifier. I think I'll do the G33 though because of it's reach over my BUIS

[@jimmybronco5336]

Hey man, funny coincidence. I just bought the G33 and run it along side my EXPS3. I finally coughed up the money and it is excellent. You will feel the weight though.

[@kristophercantu9935]

(@@jimmybronco5336 ) Nice Combo!! Yes, definitely feel the weight. Tighten your sling up for support at the ready, you will be good to go 👌

[@lsadkfjdkjfl]

Definitely excited for the holosun 503g review!

[@Victor-xm]

I got the same ADM magnifier mount, it's a piece of titanium junk. With a few flips back and forth, it completely lost zero. And by completely I mean the reticle moves almost to one edge or the other. Mind you that I avoid hitting the magnifier controls. Meanwhile the factory mount keeps zero no matter how much I abuse it. I wouldn't recommend spending the money on an interior product. The only thing I'd agree with you guys on is how smooth it is. But not holding zero is a serious issue.

[@NeverZer0]

I use this magnifier with my pa 1x Slx micro prism and I love the set up.

[@michaelwoods6754]

I’d love to see you test the G45 magnifier

[@MacD2029]

I couldn't run my rear backup iron sights because of the shorter design and eye relief issues. You guys did not run BUIS in this video but it should be worth mentioning.

[@seanlowry7848]

I use a EXPS3-2. But for the micro 3x magnifier from vortex. It has amazing clarity and comes with a really good mount. But I will be replacing the mount with a unity omni mount. But honestly the one it comes with is just fine. I just needed more height. Only reason I'm switching. But the Vortex is half the price of the Eotech

[@tattoodestroyer1663]

Thanks for the video. Just ordered my G43. Stacking with my XPS on a DD m4a1.

[@barrelandhatchet]

ohhhhh that sounds like a bomb proof setup for sure

[@tattoodestroyer1663]

@@barrelandhatchet you know it!

[@baron1c]

Would love to See you guys test out the trijicon 3x magnifier. They say it was made for the mro but I would love to see if it works with other sights.

[@SoInterested]

I'm curious to hear what y'all think of the Holosun HM3XT magnifier!

[@mexicangator]

Yeah eye relief and the fact the glass kept on getting dirty from blowback are what I didn’t like about the g33. Like the primary arms 2x prism much better. Better eye relief 3.4 inches

[@climbhigh3094]

Future topics: what to carry in a micro Chest Rig for a vehicle get home vs a full size chest rig/Reece kit for civilians. What to carry in a assault type pack to compliment full size rig.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Load out topics would be a great episode

[@InfantryMerc]

Thats the perfect magnifier 6x. Most people will shoot an LPVO either on its lowest power 1x or its highest power 6x, 8x, 10x. So a 6x is the perfect magnifier so that way you have CQB range with the red dot with non of the limitations of a prism or lpvo and if you need to engage at some range 6x is the lowest magnification i would use. If they made an 8x magnifier I would jump on that but they dont. You can also unclip the magnifier and use it as a stand alone monocular and store it in your kit if you dont want in on the rifle.

[@Fatties09]

This is a great topic. Definitely looking forward to a future podcast on this subject.

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@Fatties09 Thanks so much!

[@bestkoolaid1835]

Don’t use a magnifier because I’m a southpaw and they get in the way. After seeing this with your set up I really wanna give it a try. Awesome content guys. I won’t lube my Glock.

[@FXIIBeaver]

As a fellow southpaw. Reverse the mount.

[@bestkoolaid1835]

@@FXIIBeaver definitely will try, only ever used one o my buddy’s rifle so I didn’t get the chance.

[@misternitro1]

Eric is a southpaw too

[@ryanpeck3377]

2 options, 1. Usually the mounts are reversible so it can flip to the other side for left handed shooters, 2. Go with unity mount or riser and their flip to center magnifer mount, only downside is that puts the optic and magnifier at 2.26" so you'll have a more heads up position but some people don't like that high compared to lower 1/3 or absolute cowitness

[@vee3138]

Soutpaws have it better with magnifiers. Just reverse the mount, magnifier flips to left side and the front lens stays clean as opposed to flipping to right side and just behind the ejection port.

[@myktm1ify]

Great info guys! Keep up the good work!

[@ChasingAfterYHWH]

Vortex Micro6x and G45 5x magnifier review fellas

[@barrelandhatchet]

It will happen eventually

[@KH1511]

Anyone have an opinion on the Juliet 4T from Sig?

[@rpuentes17]

What mlok rail cover is used on the AR pistol at 2:20?

[@barrelandhatchet]

That is a “hot pocket” they are available at wisemen company

[@ordinary_american]

Solid discussion, thanks! Vortex just came out with a 6x...worth looking at for first magnifier on a budget? Or is the higher magnification kinda overkill as far as magnifiers go?

[@barrelandhatchet]

At that point maybe look at an LPVO or prism. Food for thought

[@InfantryMerc]

Thats the perfect magnifier 6x. Most people will shoot an LPVO either on its lowest power 1x or its highest power 6x, 8x, 10x. So a 6x is the perfect magnifier so that way you have CQB range with the red dot with non of the limitations of a prism or lpvo and if you need to engage at some range 6x is the lowest magnification i would use. If they made an 8x magnifier I would jump on that but they dont.

[@opel1111]

IMO 6X is the most ideal magnification for a 5.56 gas gun.

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@newerest1 it’s personal preference, however you start to get into the LPVO range of zoom at that point. So you need to look at your own personal requirements for your tool based off of the “OWOS mentality” ( which is episode 3 BTW) thinking exercise to determine what you could do.

[@InfantryMerc]

@@newerest1 to most people 1x to 3x is not that big a difference and there isnt really and difference in shooting with either power except more speed with 1x Most people start to actually see a difference in accuracy and identification with 4x and greater magnification. Now with 5.56mm most people say with the limitations of the round and engagement range that 6x is they highest magnification needed to use the full capability of the round. Now when someone is given an LPVO they mostly and the majority of they time only use lost magnification to greatest magnification which means given a 1x to 6x they will go passed 2x,3x,4x,and 5x. So with my original statement a 6x magnifier is perfect because you get all the speed of a Red Dot and the accuracy of a 6x and you can also complete remove the magnifier to use in hand held configuration and lighten then gun when needed. Also you can use the Red dot with night vision with the magnifier flipped out of the way or off the rifle. We did so much testing with this at AWG, REF, and at the Maneuver Battle Lad and this combination always had the best results. Thats why Soldiers like the elcan because its just a quick flip from 1x to 4x. But most still wish it was at least 6x and a true red dot also not as heavy.

[@leroyb1876]

Great review, I have a G43 but need another magnifier, what would you guys recommend. Juliet 4?

[@ultraspank8479]

I love to pass them around the group 😜

[@panzer6tiger]

Lets say you were able to offset an lvpo, or flip to side lvpo…..anyways just got a g43 behind an eotech and it is really as good as it gets. For 3x. The clarity is surprisingly good. Can reach 600 yards with holdovers and Kentucky windage with a 16in.

[@joshvanbuskirk2668]

So could you fit the g43 and a eotech exps3 on a unity riser together?

[@steffensamlal1854]

Drop it like it's hot.... I can't wait

[@broadswordcdb5879]

So have you guys had time on the G45 to compare? Does 3x have a more practical use for most situations and 5x possibly overkill?

[@InfantryMerc]

Thats the perfect magnifier 6x. Most people will shoot an LPVO either on its lowest power 1x or its highest power 6x, 8x, 10x. So a 6x is the perfect magnifier so that way you have CQB range with the red dot with non of the limitations of a prism or lpvo and if you need to engage at some range 6x is the lowest magnification i would use. If they made an 8x magnifier I would jump on that but they dont.

[@Mana_Cryptid]

What is that harness system on the chest rig at 0:44?

[@simpleinstinct]

Another great one. 🤘

[@barrelandhatchet]

Thanks so much 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@coreyschmidt8551]

Idk I'm still a fan of the aimpoint on a scalarworks mount lol it's 2.2 inch eye relief btw lol

[@shannonmarcantel7993]

I’m gonna pick one up for a new setup I’m working on because I want to run the Unity mount. I have a Trijicon HD magnifier right now. The eye relief is easily 2.5” and the clarity is excellent imo. Unfortunately Unity doesn’t make a mount for it. It’ll be interesting to compare to the G43.

[@wenku8471]

I have two Trijicon 3x magnifier on two unity mounts so I am confused. The Unity mount is the flip-to-center one.

[@shannonmarcantel7993]

@@wenku8471 they make a flip to center now for trrijicon

[@ajf1939]

Love the bandana!

[@illbot789]

Which has better eye relief the vortex 3x or the Eotech g43? I feel like I’m super uncomfortable trying to lean forward with the vortex

[@spokanesurvivaltrainingand5797]

I just bought one cause this video. Great channel! I subed!

[@YukarisGearReviews]

Quick question: Is it possible to keep both a magnifier and an EXPS on one FAST riser if you don't have access to the omni mount in the meantime? As in, is there enough rail space?

[@barrelandhatchet]

Negative but that would be cool

[@barrelandhatchet]

The AEMS from holosun does fit with a magnifier though on the one riser

[@twostangs81]

check out the KENU from overbore industries, exactly what youre looking for

[@YukarisGearReviews]

@@twostangs81 Dont worry, I tried this and it works in the right handed configuration. (Eotech EXPS and Eotech g45 fit together on one FAST riser)

[@YukarisGearReviews]

@@barrelandhatchet it does work actually, you're just left handed and the QD lever won't open that way

[@sandymilne224]

Compare the 43 vs the 45

[@timrainger8908]

Is it me or is that ADM mount not a upgrade at all over factory mount, other than shedding 1-2 ounces?

[@Op4Grunt0311]

I’m interested in that plate carrier setup and what’s on the back pack

[@tylertapp131]

Good shit. Think I'll wait till unity gets their mount out before I buy one, but I'm definitely gonna try and get one. I had a g33 before and did like it but like you said the eye relief was terrible.... I'm glad eotech got a little extra with this one. Oh and I have to ask man, what company sells that tiger stripe top? I gotta get one man

[@HawkBlackUS]

I found the eye relief lacking compared to the g33 but I may have gotten a lemon it’s one of the reasons I ended up preferring the g33 to it

[@wisemencompany]

I have had the opposite experience.

[@Yenecol]

Ever try the Trijicon 3x Magnifier? It says it has a 2.6in eye relief.

[@A2DaZ210]

Which 3x mag did you guys prefer, EoTech G43 or Vortex Micro 3x?

[@barrelandhatchet]

They were so similar that we would have to go with vortex just based on price

[@aaronvalle7965]

What kind of riser was this on? Not the unity the other one.

[@barrelandhatchet]

BoBRO

[@MrJking2123]

Now I’m confused on if I should be lubing my Glocks lol

[@barrelandhatchet]

Hahahah I will make sure Roy comments on this

[@knighttrider]

How far out with a 3x magnifier can you hit

[@chrisleskanic4484]

I know I'm late to the party! But still prefer the g33 to this 1 thing that really bothered me was in a rush to flip I'd spin 1 of the adjustment knows the g33 gives you more room for that. It's a magnifier so it's still nice but not a big fan still have mine I think def gonna sell or trade it thow

[@shredlife702]

maybe try HRF AMC?

[@chrisleskanic4484]

@@shredlife702 think it's only for the 33 thiw

[@pisacenere]

What is the optic used with the magnifier?

[@barrelandhatchet]

The Primary Arms ACSS Holosun red dot

[@pisacenere]

@@barrelandhatchet thanks

[@Darkpool79]

This is the way

[@barrelandhatchet]

This is the way

[@MIKE-br2lz]

Ya excited

[@nrtv20]

Who's smoke are you guys using? Great content, lots of fun!

[@barrelandhatchet]

We like to use Enola Gaye and IWA

[@rothervandross216]

Did you guys try and mount the EXPS-3 and G43 on the same unity riser? If so, how was the fit and how’d it run?

[@barrelandhatchet]

What you may have seen in the video was the eotech and the Holosun AEMS on the same unity riser, which originally is made just for the exps series of optics, but you can fit both stated at the beginning of this comment on the same riser. And it works great dude!

[@wenku8471]

0:57, hilarious how that works@@barrelandhatchet

[@j.n.8745]

How does it compare to ADM’s flip magnifier ?

[@barrelandhatchet]

its much stiffer than the ADM, the ADM mount is extremely light weight, made of titanium and has a smaller profile detach lever, it also allows for different adjustment lengths in the set screw holes, which is nice, and the flip movement is much smoother

[@joelhenry7546]

so can you run the adm mount with the unity fast mount for the eotech?

[@barrelandhatchet]

Yes you can. Just use the correct rise that comes with the ADM mount

[@JS-lv5pn]

The Primary arm slx full size i get like 2.8 inches of eye relief it works better for me.

[@jaybercasio9913]

Unity tactical OMNI, the website says it works with the G43 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@barrelandhatchet]

Yes the Omni does not the older gen

[@submoa9278]

Not many reviews on the 1-8 Vcog, if you want to review one hit me up -Matt

[@MikeJones-jr6wp]

What would you guys recommend for a magnifier on a 16” g43 or g45 ? thanks

[@barrelandhatchet]

The 5x for sure

[@charlesl5226]

How big of a difference is this height from a 1.93 height riser? I’m trying to find an option for an aim point pro, but all I have found is a skd block riser. Would the foot print of said optic work with this riser?

[@jimmybronco5336]

Great video, still can't decide between Vortex Micro 3x and EOTech G43 though.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Hahaha that journey is for you to walk my man.

[@InfantryMerc]

Vortex makes a 6x now. Thats the perfect magnifier 6x. Most people will shoot an LPVO either on its lowest power 1x or its highest power 6x, 8x, 10x. So a 6x is the perfect magnifier so that way you have CQB range with the red dot with non of the limitations of a prism or lpvo and if you need to engage at some range 6x is the lowest magnification i would use. If they made an 8x magnifier I would jump on that but they dont.

[@stephengalindo6340]

Side note: what kinda ruck you rollin with?

[@barrelandhatchet]

Gaaaah you are are the second person to ask that. I’ll have to go check it out in our cage. I’ll get the name to you. Send another comment to remind me

[@stephengalindo6340]

@@barrelandhatchet so, uh…. About that ruck? 😂😂

[@barrelandhatchet]

@@stephengalindo6340 Told ya we would get back to you, it is a Framed Ruck from a company called Stone Glacier!

[@stephengalindo6340]

@@barrelandhatchet bwahaha better late than never!

[@Talentx310]

I’m ready for the 5x g45 magnifier review 🙏🏽

[@barrelandhatchet]

lol Roger we will add it to the list for Shop Talks

[@defranco420]

great video guys, you got me thinking about selling my g33 and buying the 43. so im in florida too, what range are you guys at?

[@InfantryMerc]

If you already have a 3x magnifier get a 6x magnifier if your upgrading. Most people will shoot an LPVO either on its lowest power 1x or its highest power 6x, 8x, 10x. So a 6x is the perfect magnifier so that way you have CQB range with the red dot with non of the limitations of a prism or lpvo and if you need to engage at some range 6x is the lowest magnification i would use. If they made an 8x magnifier I would jump on that but they dont.

[@jackhammer2193]

What is that Foregrip

[@barrelandhatchet]

Troy industries mlok foregrip

[@WindowsPlaysFPS]

What backpack is that?

[@Jordan-ce7sf]

I have the aimpoint version, but ya, glass is expensive. Buy once cry once.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Amen to that

[@kesmed2001]

Unity FAST OMNI

[@chrish.6934]

Like it!

[@slamfire5382]

Subbed.

[@barrelandhatchet]

Welcome to the group!

[@dukedynasty]

Can we get a rifle overview?

[@luckygreenforest508]

G45 ?

[@barrelandhatchet]

G 43 micro magnifier

[@bhi7165]

For that amount of cheddar, I'll just go in on a LPVO

[@barrelandhatchet]

Yeah sadly that may be an option that would be viable

[@donemigholzjr.7344]

"YELLOWCAKE"!!!!! This is all too easy and that means Exxon Mobil and BP are using their Mercenaries to instigate all this.

[@dejuanballard3367]

Not worth it in comparison to the holosun, no Justification for the extreme price disparity , obviously I've never looked through it, but neither will have most people before buying it.

[@cheekys.o.b804]

I ha e booth and the g33 is better and lighter .

[@barrelandhatchet]

yes it is nice, we did a shop talk on the 33 actually

[@cheekys.o.b804]

@@barrelandhatchet got a link. Can't seem to find it

[@martin1234512345]

Anything under 5x is a waste in my opinion. 3x is for people who really just need their eyes checked.

[@reflekt6777]

great review but the facepaint and running and gunning while wearing a backpack cringe was off the charts.

[@crent4148]

Men with green faces

[@jeremy8715]

$769.00 as of 20220815