How Good is Toby Collyer? Ten Hag's Frenkie De Jong or...

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@Sublimeambiencewhisper
@Sublimeambiencewhisper 3 ай бұрын
For me maxi oyedele is next
@Bringbackpeace980
@Bringbackpeace980 3 ай бұрын
completely agreed!
@iwandoherty3419
@iwandoherty3419 3 ай бұрын
He played in League 2 last season, I think it'll be a couple of seasons before we see him
@Thatfik
@Thatfik 3 ай бұрын
They can both play. Europa league is a perfect competition for use to play the youth. That’s how greenwood started out
@Fc90_1
@Fc90_1 2 ай бұрын
maybe Amass, especially with our lb injuries problems.
@masterbeethoven8209
@masterbeethoven8209 2 ай бұрын
@@Fc90_1 Same, was impressed by Amass from the game the other night, press resistant, good decision making and aggressive. I think he's still a bit too young though, needs to bulk out a bit and improve on his defensive traits.
@benross422
@benross422 3 ай бұрын
I think he’s more like Darren Fletcher. He’s a high energy, consistent, low risk. Solid and allows more creative players thrive. Loan Collyer, play Oyedele
@josiahrhobi8764
@josiahrhobi8764 3 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@CharlesOdoch
@CharlesOdoch 3 ай бұрын
Collyer and Oyedele should all be in first team provided we get rid of Eriksen and Casemiro plus bringing back Amrabat as a back up for the next CDM signing.
@petercipriano5659
@petercipriano5659 3 ай бұрын
Frankly he didn’t look like anything special at all in the 2 preseason games so far. Was a bit of a liability even on the ball. Not sold on him yet. Let’s see how he does…think he could do with a loan this season to a championship club.
@RowanJCC
@RowanJCC 2 ай бұрын
I disagree. I think we should give him an opportunity. I see a lot of good things in him. One thing in particular what he shows is physicality which we are desperately lacking in the midfield. I think he can potentially become someone of McTominays calibre but with more technical prowess.
@iz07
@iz07 3 ай бұрын
He'll be one of the one to watch next season.
@kitsomochankana3493
@kitsomochankana3493 3 ай бұрын
Oyedele has better physicality, strength, pace and tackling wheareas collyer has better passing, awareness and simple gameplay. Both are CDMs however I feel oyedele is the better player between the two overall
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 3 ай бұрын
Agreed but I don’t think ten Hag rates Oyedele
@josiahrhobi8764
@josiahrhobi8764 3 ай бұрын
spot on, but to add on that, from what i see, oyedele is not a holding 6 (currently) but an 8 but NOT like a de jong, mainoo or mount but more like a fred, kone, anguissa, gravenberch or thuram. he does not want to receive facing his own goal ( emphasis on opinion). I think ten hag likes collyer because of his willingness to position himself and always being an available passing option. to be fair though i dont watch youth football i got all this from pre season games and some highlights.
@johnobi7095
@johnobi7095 2 ай бұрын
Only those that don't understand football rate Oyedele ahead of Collyer. Oyedele is a number 8, not a number.
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 2 ай бұрын
@@johnobi7095 Nope. Oyedele is not an 8 at all. Oyedele is much more of a 6 and he's clearly better than Collyer at the moment
@santenkhata5187
@santenkhata5187 3 ай бұрын
I hope Dan Gore gets his chance this season.
@marksern
@marksern 3 ай бұрын
I think he is still injured on account of him not being involved in any friendlies or the tour😢 also we're pretty stacked on his position so unfortunately looks unlikely but fingers crossed
@NRGBEATZ
@NRGBEATZ 3 ай бұрын
Personally from what I’ve seen I think collyer first touch/close ball control is way off the standard required for top level football. Especially under pressure. He constantly looks under pressure due to poor touches when receiving the ball during this pre season, which is a worry as pre season pressing is already way below regular season football.
@alexdex9439
@alexdex9439 3 ай бұрын
Spot on. I think hell be the next Mctominay if anything.
@josiahrhobi8764
@josiahrhobi8764 3 ай бұрын
exactly😂😂, whoever compared collyer to de jong is taking a piss. For me I see him as a rice/onana type player. Someone who just wants the ball and be clean on it. I feel his tackles are too aggressive and mistimed. I don't see the hype in this kid but he plays with passion like mctominay.
@josiahrhobi8764
@josiahrhobi8764 3 ай бұрын
@@alexdex9439 bro like you read my mind🤣🤣🤣
@Dmaj089
@Dmaj089 3 ай бұрын
Damn 3 people shitting on a youngin who plays for United. Give him time to grow damn
@LukeHosea
@LukeHosea 2 ай бұрын
Let him be used as a Central defender
@lmaxi2152
@lmaxi2152 3 ай бұрын
NEXT MAXI OYEDELE PLEASE🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@youngelite7725
@youngelite7725 3 ай бұрын
Better than Toby
@litogamer866
@litogamer866 3 ай бұрын
​@@youngelite7725 thought i was the only one who noticed
@matejrybus3923
@matejrybus3923 3 ай бұрын
He did and people doubting him
@SulaimanShittu-r1v
@SulaimanShittu-r1v 3 ай бұрын
​@@litogamer866mctomminay didn't allow Maxi to display like case and toby
@beingmeshach
@beingmeshach 3 ай бұрын
for me Collyer doesn’t have enough forward play in him. like you said he needs to take a risk with his passes and that where i think he lacks a lot. he doesn’t play the ball forward enough for me.
@MicrosoftExcel101
@MicrosoftExcel101 3 ай бұрын
Oyedele also catches the eye
@Rebhara
@Rebhara 3 ай бұрын
I agree with the very last point, no need to.loan out players just for the sake of it. Especially not to championship or league 1 teams fighting relegation
@RandomVideosFirst
@RandomVideosFirst 3 ай бұрын
Maxi is ahead of collyer by 1-2 years in my opinion. A year ago I would have said Gore , shame he had a serious injury felt like he would have been the next player .
@Michael2Mikael
@Michael2Mikael 3 ай бұрын
Players like Erikson, Mcsauce and maybe even Casemiro has to go if we are looking to develop these midfielders from our youth teams.
@crysflake
@crysflake 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@bud9578
@bud9578 3 ай бұрын
Mcsauce be my number 1 to sell
@wrathoflichking9603
@wrathoflichking9603 3 ай бұрын
and who should be our midfielder then, back up midfielder too?
@crysflake
@crysflake 3 ай бұрын
@@wrathoflichking9603 the youth are better at being midfielder than mctominay.
@Michael2Mikael
@Michael2Mikael 3 ай бұрын
@@wrathoflichking9603 Collyer, Oyedele, Amrabat/other back backup signing
@okonkwopaul96
@okonkwopaul96 3 ай бұрын
Please talk about William Fish 🙏
@KriminalKutz-ru2qb
@KriminalKutz-ru2qb 2 ай бұрын
Your crazy collyer will go straight in this season
@stevemitchell1454
@stevemitchell1454 3 ай бұрын
A world class playmaker is essential. If one is not recruited then top honours are out of the question.
@hanif-pl5hd
@hanif-pl5hd 3 ай бұрын
he doesnt look as good in possession compared to gore or mainoo. also, oyedele looks better defensively. hopefully toby can improve more
@Ruben-so7pu
@Ruben-so7pu 3 ай бұрын
The problem is Ten Hag has a massive hard on for McTominay so he´ll be the one coming out of the bench for either Ugarte or Mainoo.
@ianrichards1839
@ianrichards1839 2 ай бұрын
Where is Dan Gore. Is he still injured ?. He wasn’t far behind Kobie in the youth cup winning team.
@melchertnowee8443
@melchertnowee8443 3 ай бұрын
Good vid. I'd like to see more youngsters go out on loan. Let them develop and cherry pick afterwards.
@les_crow
@les_crow 3 ай бұрын
What happened to Dan Gore, anyway? he isn't on the tour.
@mvp2526
@mvp2526 3 ай бұрын
toby the next paul scholes for man utd, i always remember paul scholes pass from left to right or should i say the switch of play.saf always say scholes is a quiet guy.
@88balloonsonthewall70
@88balloonsonthewall70 3 ай бұрын
Oh cmon people, if there is someone Collyer should be compared with its not Scholes or De Jong, he is a lot more like Schneiderlin or players like that. He doesnt have abilities that stands out but is more a balanced player who reads the game well.
@JMohammed95
@JMohammed95 3 ай бұрын
When have we ever played possession under Ten Hag?
@EdwardBillio
@EdwardBillio 3 ай бұрын
what do you think of Maxi Oyedele?
@Claudiusthekid
@Claudiusthekid 3 ай бұрын
So Cleverley 2.0? Maybe with Collyer and Kobe we finally get to see what peak Cleverly and Anderson could have been like
@KingErik7
@KingErik7 3 ай бұрын
Great vid! 👍 What do you think are the main differences between Collyer and Oyedele? Also, anyone know what's happening with Dan good? Assume he's still injured from last season but sure he trained with the team towards the end of last season?
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 3 ай бұрын
Oyedele is more of a ball winner than Collyer. Oyedele would be a Casemiro replacement whereas Collyer is closer to Amrabat. Don’t think Ten Hag rates either Gore or Oyedele though.
@KingErik7
@KingErik7 3 ай бұрын
@@AtlantisFootball I get the same feeling about Ten Hag and Oyedele. I hope he and Collyer get minutes to prove themselves on tour over Casemiro, Erickson and Mctonanny. I think Gore could suffer from our midfield already lacking height and physical presence especially if Mctonanny left with Casemiro.
@ABESW0RLD
@ABESW0RLD 3 ай бұрын
I think Ethan Ennis is closer than any of these lads to being ready. And Ennis was out injured for ages and is still a good prospect.
@fabinhogoessilva2398
@fabinhogoessilva2398 3 ай бұрын
I agree
@jimmyamimo9058
@jimmyamimo9058 3 ай бұрын
Where is Dan Gore 😕
@Ojo.oluwatobiloba
@Ojo.oluwatobiloba 3 ай бұрын
HE IS AN AMAZING LAD
@jonathanwendling2066
@jonathanwendling2066 2 ай бұрын
He is a defensive dm similar to rice
@Balzhag
@Balzhag 3 ай бұрын
He still looks a bit shaky to be in the first team -he looks quite jingly-jangly ( lol ). hope people don't put their hopes up too high for him.
@emitotheworld
@emitotheworld 2 ай бұрын
Maxi Oyedele is next
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 3 ай бұрын
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@ABESW0RLD
@ABESW0RLD 3 ай бұрын
Collyer should have been loaned last year. He's like a mix of garner and gallagher.
@EmmanuelgaiDung
@EmmanuelgaiDung 3 ай бұрын
Please where is Dan Gore??
@LillianOnyango-d1h
@LillianOnyango-d1h 3 ай бұрын
Apply for the England job mate you sure do some analysis you know😂😂
@martinsibeanusi4317
@martinsibeanusi4317 3 ай бұрын
Man utd fans here says Maxi Oyedele is better and that speaks volume.
@omarspence7404
@omarspence7404 2 ай бұрын
What happened to gore?
@mengstuwelday6524
@mengstuwelday6524 3 ай бұрын
Dan gore and oyedele also good
@alexgodwin5806
@alexgodwin5806 3 ай бұрын
He's essentially like Gallagher but in a good way
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 3 ай бұрын
Nah not really, Gallagher is more of an advanced box to box CM. I’d say Collyer is more like an Adam Wharton but not as good
@DKcoppit
@DKcoppit 3 ай бұрын
anyone got reviews for the shirt website
@HonouHana
@HonouHana 3 ай бұрын
Maxi Oyedele clear
@BagolKeren-t2g
@BagolKeren-t2g Ай бұрын
Why always waiting next season??? Casemiro now weak and slowly??
@bernarddarkwah3998
@bernarddarkwah3998 2 ай бұрын
Maxi Oyedele over Collyer
@EmmanuelOnyono
@EmmanuelOnyono 3 ай бұрын
For Me, I do think Maxi is more promising than him
@fabiane.e545
@fabiane.e545 3 ай бұрын
Collyer is more of a Van Beek kind of player than De Jong
@alexchetambe1279
@alexchetambe1279 3 ай бұрын
Maxi, Collyer and Gore need to be in the first team for sure
@Rory-u7e
@Rory-u7e 3 ай бұрын
I dnt understand u people🤷 y we force youngsters into the team if they not ready. Only collyer could get into the team at the first half of the season cus ten hag has always carefully brought youngsters into his team
@-_-DatDude
@-_-DatDude 3 ай бұрын
Oyedele looked quite rash and clumsy on the ball in the Rosenborg game. Didn't watch the Rangers game fully but yeah it's unrealistic expectation.
@alexchetambe1279
@alexchetambe1279 3 ай бұрын
@@Rory-u7e all in all it is the coach's decision it is just a wish from me coz I was really impressed with his Rangers game
@Rory-u7e
@Rory-u7e 3 ай бұрын
@@alexchetambe1279 I get Ur point but we should never put pressure on young talent to succeed
@kikadivine2048
@kikadivine2048 3 ай бұрын
How's he even like fdj
@Alexander07882
@Alexander07882 3 ай бұрын
He's not ready yet, he looks average as well.
@barryh.4220
@barryh.4220 3 ай бұрын
Who????
@godswilljoseph6677
@godswilljoseph6677 3 ай бұрын
Jayce Fitzgerald is more similar to FDJ than Collyer
@be_awake007
@be_awake007 3 ай бұрын
He will definitely be playing this season, remember the name
@steveomcbigarms
@steveomcbigarms 3 ай бұрын
Mac sauce 2.0
@wrathoflichking9603
@wrathoflichking9603 3 ай бұрын
to me he was below average against rangers!
@lazydog3741
@lazydog3741 2 ай бұрын
replacing Eriksen? lol These guys don't even have the level for Sunderland.
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 2 ай бұрын
@@lazydog3741 neither does Eriksen. The guy has no legs. Liability for most PL Sides
@lazydog3741
@lazydog3741 2 ай бұрын
@@AtlantisFootball Well his running stats says otherwise. He ain’t no number 6 for sure maybe not even a number 8, but it is not Eriksens fault that Uniteds press and defence is as bad as it is. They showed us that when he wasn’t playing. You could have two prime Kante’s in that team and they would still let opponents like Wolves look like Barca. Eriksen is not the future of the United midfield but these two poormans James Garners are neither. He did okay for Brentford the last time people thought he was finished and also did okay on the nationalteam at the Euroes.
@KerbinhoTWanjang
@KerbinhoTWanjang 3 ай бұрын
Whoever rate this dude ahead of Maxi Oyedelè is delusional...Oyedele should be the talking point this season...hope he be given game time
@Plastic_Surgery_Pokhara
@Plastic_Surgery_Pokhara 3 ай бұрын
He is always passing backwards
@xyzpharaoh123
@xyzpharaoh123 3 ай бұрын
Get him on the grass and stop all this buying Dutch players who are no better than who you already have it’s insane
@vishnurajan6896
@vishnurajan6896 3 ай бұрын
Maxi oyedele is better than Tobby
@muslimyahya7307
@muslimyahya7307 3 ай бұрын
Deep lying mid. Collyer will be first team player if ugarte deal collapse
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@youngelite7725
@youngelite7725 3 ай бұрын
Max oyedeli is way complete midfielder than toby
@AtlantisFootball
@AtlantisFootball 3 ай бұрын
Agreed but don’t think he’s getting a look in unfortunately
@Comeatm3br0
@Comeatm3br0 3 ай бұрын
He’s more of an all rounder but Collyer is a better talent in terms of ceiling
@cjmorton8631
@cjmorton8631 3 ай бұрын
​@@AtlantisFootballI think both are gonna be in the first team
@odongvincent3696
@odongvincent3696 3 ай бұрын
I think the same way.
@odongvincent3696
@odongvincent3696 3 ай бұрын
​@@Comeatm3br0what do you exactly mean when talking about ceiling in this case?
@rafikfairouz5619
@rafikfairouz5619 3 ай бұрын
this guy is not a first team player....in ball possession he is poor
@jhonma5122
@jhonma5122 3 ай бұрын
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