How GOOD was Ho-Oh ACTUALLY? - History of Ho-Oh in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 2-7)

[@Discordual]

Basically the only 4x weak to rock pokemon who didn't immediately drop 2 tiers with the introduction of rocks

[@TechnoPrayer15]

well and volcarona

[@SeriousStriker]

Mega Charizard Y and Volcarona say hi. But they're not Ubers.

[@HRCFre4k]

@@SeriousStriker Also, they appeared after Rocks were introduced :b

[@SeriousStriker]

Still always been OU though.

[@MrZahsome]

Rocks need a nerf.

[@imortal333]

Is it just me, or did Ho-Oh actually get BETTER over time? This feels like a reverse for most Pokémon in this series.

[@bruhbruh4329]

Cuse it finally got regenerator and defog

[@joshuakim5240]

That's kind of debatable because of the reason for it's current placement, which has little to do with Ho-Oh's actual strengths. Rock types, Rock coverage attacks, Stealth Rocks (or just the existence of the Rock type in general) are nonexistant in Ubers yet are extremely prevalent everywhere else, meaning that Ho-Oh in the weirdest reversal of tiering is worse the lower the tier its used in, but better the higher the tier. Ironically, attempting to use Ho-Oh in any tier that isn't Uber is suicidal due to how Rock-heavy those tiers are, which is the extreme reversal of everything else.

[@nekolu]

imortal333 it’s a Phoenix, makes sense for it to

[@tordellinodellacoopdimassa7996]

@@joshuakim5240 Ou is not that rock heavy tho. Tyranitar is the only relevant rock type, and only lando-t, excadrill and garchomp really use rock coverage. I feel like Ho-Oh would destroy OU since its so fat that it can setup on basically anithing that does not have rock coverage. And defensively would be even worse. Just imagine a toxapex, ferrothorn, Ho-Oh core.

[@tordellinodellacoopdimassa7996]

@@joshuakim5240 ah, and it also has a double stab that is absolutely perfect to destroy the tier. Fire flying stab+ground coverage has no switch-ins, it can't be burnt since it is a fire type. Only garchomp could really do something to stop the bird, but it won't take a lot of brave birds to take chomp out.

[@alexdrake4081]

Imagine how nuclear Ho-oh will be in Gen 8 because of Heavy-duty boots

[@grantdaily9662]

It's now got Flare Blitz to compliment it's Brave Bird. So with Heavy Duty Boots/Regenerator and a mix of Recover and Iron Head. You get a harder to kill Magic Bird

[@grantdaily9662]

@@crinjal_mrp I didn't say it would replace the Sacred Set. But there's now more focus for power attacks and wall breaking, rather than a slow burn

[@SeriousStriker]

Yep, it's top tier. But not as good as Calyrex-Shadow and Yveltal.

[@matteussilvestre8583]

"Ho-No!" - Torterra

[@Piper_aaa]

No rayquaza next

[@antonioiniguez1615]

japhi white yes please

[@sarunotaslt]

@@Piper_aaa "Tiers more like tears" - Mega reyquaza when it got banned from Ubers

[@boomerangthrower3961]

I get it! Ho-oh is immune to Torterra’s Ground-*STAB,quad resists it’s Grass-STAB and Ho-oh can annihilate Torterra with both of it’s STABs*

[@ZorotheGallade]

@@boomerangthrower3961 Torterra can pack Stone Edge though, so if it reads the switch the tables get turned.

[@marnerbroman]

I forgot how cool his "Physical attack" animation was back then

[@CrystalHakurei]

It has the same animation as sneasel while using shadow ball lmao

[@marnerbroman]

@@CrystalHakurei Still cool looking

[@evankurasu3190]

TheGameBoyUltimate still better than anything Sword/Shield brought to the table as far as animations go

[@kirbydude2523]

@@evankurasu3190 Wrong.

[@evankurasu3190]

KirbyDude 25 how so? Give me examples... I'll wait.

[@TheNorseCrow]

Waiting for that Arceus video that'll probably be like two hours due to all the various forms

[@fulgenzio89]

Maybe a video for every generation.

[@M3rtyville]

gen 4 won't it was unplayable because of the restriction to its evs and people just "recently" found out a way to glitch their way to the azule flute arceus which can get its stats maxed out. Smogon doesn't allow full ev arceus at all in gen 4 Ubers. But there is still a lot to cover since e-killer was always viable alongside 5 others while the few others like bug were not to viable.

[@FenrisRM]

@@M3rtyville e killer?

[@M3rtyville]

@@FenrisRM thats Normal arceus' nickname. also short for Extreme Killer since it uses Sword Dance and finish off Pokemon with Extreme Speed which is a +2 priority move. It is one of the most consistent arceus forme over the years

[@TheThegreatshinigami]

Is that Honchkrow? It's one of my favorite Gen. 4 pkmn.

[@agata-1337]

heavy duty boots + regenerator ho-oh. gen8ubers will never be the same :v

[@Spplaart]

Aged like fine milk

[@snorIaxatives]

Tate, Herald of Garfus It’s probably coming in the DLC though.

[@spencertherealist3290]

Tate, Herald of Garfus Dummy there’s such a thing as the DLC

[@pikamain9689]

Spencer The realist lmao learn to read

[@RBatman5000]

@@Spplaart, Crown tundra is bringing back box legendaries

[@dasaiyantv8483]

Maybe when we get to Unova we should do Serperior first.

[@kellenrist3973]

Yeah. Let Emboar suffer the delay!

[@pkfire5790]

no emboar is cool stfu

[@mr.cheese1865]

Yes! Emboar is the worst of the Unova trio, it deserves it!

[@kellenrist3973]

@@pkfire5790 It's easily the worst of the Unova starters, and quite possibly the worst starter in any game.

[@pkfire5790]

@@kellenrist3973 not true. its better than samurott and meganium is the worst starter

[@PydraxAlpta]

Loved to see how Ho-oh goes from "worst Uber" to decent staple over the generations in Ubers. Also will we stall grass further this time? Poor Torterra

[@voltingmaster5458]

According to the Patreon Pick, Yes.

[@allewis4008]

I remember buying Gold and thinking Ho oh looked awesome on the box art. Glad he's still hanging in there!

[@crashgrimm6993]

Decent is underselling it

[@PydraxAlpta]

@@crashgrimm6993 Well, yeah. (The thing is you gotta type the early comments quickly so that people notice, so couldn't find time to use a better word) Also it was decent before USUM defog, making it more amazing after that.

[@MrZahsome]

Fire types had it rough in the early gens tbh lol up until Infernape and Heatran came along.

[@redranger4953]

I recently competed in an online tournament using Ho-oh. It had Sacred Fire, Brave Bird, Earthquake and Natural Gift with an adamant nature. Why Natural Gift you may ask? I saw that if holding a Leichi berry, it becomes a grass type attack and has a base attack of 80. It was used to counter water, rock and ground types. I know it sounds outlandish and gimmicky but it can help in most situations and catch opponents off guard.

[@SultanOmarII]

cant ho oh have hidden power grass?

[@redranger4953]

@@SultanOmarII not in more recent games

[@DJTileTurnip]

I see your keeping up the trend of delaying the grass starter

[@ShinMario098]

It's tradition around here to put a extra episode before the last Starter.

[@michaelconner9208]

c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker combo

[@purpleheartneptune6267]

joe53820 stfu your stupid it’s the other way around

[@toadallynoodle5414]

@@purpleheartneptune6267 no need to be rude about it.

[@MandalorOrdo]

@@purpleheartneptune6267 nope

[@LukeFaulkner]

Pokemon: Ho-Oh Santa: Ho-Ho Ho-tel: Trivago

[@an3582]

This was a bad joke and you should be ashamed.

[@relaxn3918]

@@an3582 people have different tastes of humor, not everybody has the same as you you know

[@an3582]

@@relaxn3918 I wasn't being serious.

[@WolframYouTube]

You overlooked the best change to gen 7 Ho-Oh It got Burn-Up, the best meme in the game

[@Skullhawk13]

Roost+Burn up sadly can’t be used on the same turn

[@WolframYouTube]

@@Skullhawk13 The loss of your Fire type from Burn-Up stays until you swap out. So you use Burn-Up to become a pure flying type, and then you use Roost to become typeless for that turn.

[@Skullhawk13]

@@WolframKZbin roost makes pure flying normal type

[@WolframYouTube]

@@Skullhawk13 Only when the Pokémon originally was pure Flying. If it loses its typing through Burn-Up, it will not become normal.

[@Skullhawk13]

@@WolframKZbin Interesting, that seems odd but I can believe it

[@chexkers4212]

*Ho-Oh?!* *You mean, better Moltres?*

[@EndingNote111]

Moltres ? You mean Ho-Oh but trash ?

[@homelesstogreatness6626]

HO-OH ÷ 0 = Moltres

[@xeruexe1624]

Divide anything by 0 and it becomes infinite. And Moltres is not THAT good.

[@docxy7331]

Totem charazard

[@jonasbechtold]

@@xeruexe1624 Dividing by 0 can equal negative infinity as well, though.

[@arasonyth3243]

It's so hard to cook turkey right, it dries out so easily. It's definitely low on the list of bird meat. Not sure how it has such a dominant presence at Smogen Thanksgiving.

[@siircartiier]

Arasonyth idk man it and compete with duck

[@CTback]

Guess someone doesn't know how brine works.

[@finalfreak17]

It has a lot of meat to feed a lot of people for cheap and it has an iconic look.

[@siircartiier]

gribble of the sand r/Whoooosh

[@poiz921]

You should sous-vide it. It's the best.

[@jjtheenton]

The streak of denying Grass starters continues.

[@kylemckell7653]

Because they're just generally bad and shoved to lower tiers

[@JustInCaseD]

Kyle McKell It took Serp a generation, but it’s chillin’ in OU

[@MaxosGoji]

@@kylemckell7653 Venusaur and Serperior say hello.

[@kylemckell7653]

@@MaxosGoji there are exceptions to every rule. But torterra is not ome of them

[@allmight9744]

@@kylemckell7653 doesn't matter if they're trash Torterra could be PU the whole time I would still watch that video

[@jorgemiranda4704]

Marik Ishtar: BEHOLD! THE MEGA ULTRA CHICKEN! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Joey: ...

[@villabong11]

nye?

[@dylanogg347]

Arrise Chicken! Arrise!

[@chaosbreaker657]

How strong was Ho-oh's neck actually? Seriously, looking at its sprite from Gens 3-5, its neck is almost always bent.

[@Demento56]

RIP Torterra

[@DJTileTurnip]

He always puts an episode before the grass starter

[@Fin8192]

Next is Patreon pick tho

[@joegreen3802]

@@DJTileTurnip Blastoise says hi?

[@TempestMauve]

@DJ Tile Turnip Conspiracy.

[@TempestMauve]

@Joe Green Still, it would be better if he did these reviews every Wednesdays and Sundays.

[@PoshWosher]

Friend: Isn't Moltres like Ho-oh? Me: ***hits him with a rock***

[@AshBlossomWorshiper]

Dies in one shot because he's moltres and not ho-oh

[@jalapenobug]

And now Ho-Oh is one of the best Pokémon in Gen 8 Ubers.

[@kingambitreal]

Still is in Gen 9 Ubers including Natdex iirc

[@ethanschoonbeck8519]

As a Lugia fan, I also find it awesome that Ho-oh remained as good as it's sister legend in later generations.

[@kanibelazy0585]

Do you know whats funny? Next week its gonna be Patreon pick, so if they didnt vote for Torterra then Torterra is gonna be delayed for a second time

[@voltingmaster5458]

They didn’t vote for Torterra.

[@jacobdyingextraordinaire4805]

Damn.

[@NocturnalPyro]

19:05 I'd give it some type of item which either reduced or completely removed hazard damage, could be some type of boots, like those safety boots used for Heavy duty work. Oh wait...

[@jayclearmen411]

I’d give it its own held item. called ;) Rainbow Wing it increases Hp Atk Def Sp.def & Spd by 20-30%

[@NocturnalPyro]

@@jayclearmen411 Fuckin what?

[@StormlordOG]

​@@jayclearmen411 💀

[@Laffey99]

Yay, the KFC God is finally being analysed! :D

[@NeoGraena]

Kawaii Girl you mean blaziken rite?

[@4horsemenoftheapocalypse58]

Kawaii Girl winged dragon of Ra us a yugioh card

[@samuelsams614]

Lol xD

[@vaporterra]

Blaziken is literally KFC, Kentucky Fighting Chicken

[@dylanogg347]

@@vaporterra Which means, when it Mega Evolves, it becomes a Mega Ultra Kentucky Fighting Chicken.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

I actually like Ho-Oh more than Lugia. But still respect Lugia.

[@Qwitsch55]

I like Lugia more. But I will respect your opinion.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

@@Qwitsch55 Same here.

[@HenrythePaleoGuy]

I like both equally. I just can't choose!

[@The_PokeSaurus]

@@HenrythePaleoGuy Understandable.

[@chiomuoma2549]

ho-oh and lugia vs zhuqiaomon and varodurumon!2-on-2 death battle!!!who wins?!?!?tell me what you think!!!!!I loved this video!!!!

[@andrestewart2316]

The Pokémon with the BEST legendary theme!.

[@matguimond92]

I like Suicune's theme more

[@knju1monsterhunt656]

The second I first saw Ho-oh's stats, I knew it was the Flareon/Entei of the legendary birds.

[@wazemo2764]

It isn't though it's actually a really good mon.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Not even a comparison. Ho-oh is far beyond either of them. Entei at least got better over time getting more useable physical moves and Sacred Fire as a STAB option. Kind of like Arcanine-litesih only it gets Sacred Fire and Stone Edge and Iron Head. Flareon at least got given Superpower for coverage and got Flare Blitz eventually but you can't overlook that Speed...

[@bananacat7574]

We need a remake of this now that Ho oh is in SV doing numbers!!!

[@violetvappy1796]

You know I've always wondered about this. Good to see I'll finally get to learn about it in the best format on the internet!

[@Sakis_Husband]

Childhood is loving Lugia for how awesome and scary it is. Adulthood is loving Ho-Oh for how majestic and grandiose it is.

[@antares4731]

Hello -VerminTV- Maturity is loving both.

[@高橋あいみ-l4g]

I think seeing Ho Oh in the first episode was meant to foreshadow that 151 Pokemon was only the beginning

[@DareDB]

I’m just gonna come out and say it: Stealth Rock should’ve never been invented.

[@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman]

Or a max damage cap. Dropping half your life is too much. 1/3 seems a lot better

[@doicaretho6851]

Or at least make alternatives with other types. I could see an ice, steel, bug, ghost, grass etc. variant, with only one kind available at a time. They could also cap the number of turns to around 3-5, or maybe the damage like the other guy said.

[@YamatoFukkatsu]

@shakuuza ez I'm sure Delibird was totally asking to have half its health knocked off just for switching in. Yup, utterly broken Pokemon, right there.

[@camoking3605]

@@YamatoFukkatsu I get the joke, but competitive pokemon has always been harsh for fire and ice types because of how common their counters are, stealth rocks just hurt what viability they have even more

[@jjtheenton]

Just have it function like Spikes rather than being type-dependent.

[@FriendfullFJ]

I don't play pokemon anymore but always love watching these videos

[@joegreen3802]

Kind of interesting that a Fire/Flying type managed to stay in Ubers to this day

[@amaanverma8248]

You had charizard y it was preety strong mega

[@joegreen3802]

@@amaanverma8248 Charizard Y isn’t Uber

[@amaanverma8248]

@@joegreen3802 but it was very important to counter the ever present xerneas(i don't the spelling) and also was very strong he had 8.9 % also mega mauwile had only 22.8%

[@Owlr4ider]

Ho-Oh is basically what Moltres from gen 1 should have been. The same Fire and Flying type only with an actually good move pool, and only got better over time whereas Moltres dwindled in the lower tiers.

[@WTC-1990]

imagine if it got a primal with these stats HP: 106 Attack: 140 Defence: 150 Sp Atk: 110 Sp Def: 174 Speed: 100 Ability: Regenerator Defog / Recover Sacred Fire Brave Bird Substitute / Thunder / Earthquake it would be the bane of everyone's existence cause the stall would be insane

[@green_hedger_68]

Wow !!

[@unmployedvillager7341]

@@crinjal_mrp There is one in rom hack called radical red with custom ability Primal Armor which reduces super effective damage by half. It is stally of the stalliest while possessing severe offensive pressure

[@seabirdflutter]

our only saving grace is that it's not magic bounce

[@WTC-1990]

@@seabirdflutter Regenerator tho, we seen what it could do on normal Ho-Oh, imagine it on one with better stats

[@seabirdflutter]

@@WTC-1990 yeah. that's just nasty, but if it has the primal orb it can't run boots so we got that

[@djimonmcdonald9085]

Thank you FSG, very nice.

[@Iamwolf134]

Lugium Z and Ho-Ohnium Z involving aeroblast and sacred fire respectively.

[@ZorotheGallade]

Ho-Oh's Z-move should do something like healing the user of statuses or recovering their HP

[@Iamwolf134]

@@ZorotheGallade What of Lugia's Z-move?

[@ZorotheGallade]

@@Iamwolf134 Clearing the weather?

[@Iamwolf134]

@@ZorotheGallade Hey, good idea. I think it should even nullify Desolate Land, Primordial Sea, and Delta Stream

[@Iamwolf134]

I'm thinking that Ho-Oh's z-move would be Infernal Flare Blast; A ballistic move that lays down a burning mass (an entry hazard) that acts binding move when the next opponent switches in unless removed via rapid spin/defog. Lugia's Z move would be called Airborne Razor Barrage; A ballistic move that lays down a razor sharp cyclone (an entry hazard) that acts binding move when the next opponent switches in unless removed via rapid spin/defog.

[@MoxieBoosted]

Some important notes about Ho-Oh's place in VGC 2019. Its mainly a rain team pokemon. Access to sacred fire lets it protect kyogre from steel/grass threats like kartana and ferrothorn. Super effective damage along with the chance to burn them if they manage to survive it in the rain is pretty huge. Access to tailwind also helps kyogre use water spout to its full potential. Another purpose for Ho-Oh was to check xerneas. It natually takes hit from boosted xerneas because of its huge special bulk and resistance to fairies. It sometimes ran whirlwind or roar though to force it out, since offensively it has few options vs xerneas.

[@oofjeff3735]

Xernas run tbolr and thunder tho?

[@MoxieBoosted]

@@oofjeff3735 not, xern are typically Moonblast/Protect/Dazzling Gleam/Geomancy

[@oofjeff3735]

@@MoxieBoosted da fak? Its mostly *gemamcy. Moonblast. Focus Blast. Psyshoc/tbolt* What kind of idiot needs moonblast and dazzling gleam lol

[@MoxieBoosted]

@@oofjeff3735 VGC is a doubles format. Dazzling gleam + fairy aura after a geomancy can get easy KO's on chipped opponents. Go to pikalytics and check the usage stats. Hardly anyone uses focus blast or tbolt.

[@oofjeff3735]

@@MoxieBoosted oof. My bad. I made a mistake for singles x_x

[@spencerbowden2979]

I’m the only one of my friends who got Pokémon colosseum no one wanted to play it because they knew it would be more story driven and they thought any Pokémon I found I could just breed and transfer. Their shock when I one day brought a Ho oh to our daily battles. They started accusing me of hacking in mythicals and I told them I got it in colosseum. One internet video later they finally believed me and just like that all my friends went to get colosseum.

[@heartofthefluft8541]

*Very berry* I love how one of the Ho-Ohs used in 6th Gen was named after Lilina's weapon, Forblaze 🔥

[@XO_Hikari]

Aye Fe reference

[@chrisf.9595]

Lilina? Don't you mean Athos?

[@heartofthefluft8541]

@@chrisf.9595 Lilina in Fire Emblem Heroes wields the Forblaze as a 5* weapon. But Athos also count :D that tome appears both in FE6 and FE7

[@beanburrito4405]

We did it again! Though this time the Lugia/Ho-oh was kinda interrupted by the starters as well, so it went both ways lol Also I was featured in the video! Yay :)

[@glitchguidegabe]

3:40 Yo Mr. FSG. These should be in every video from now on. Excellent call dude!

[@theamazingsmith1224]

I think it would be interesting to get a behind the scenes of the “How Good were” Series.

[@ElectroBlastLuigi]

*Fearow is Ho-Oh's evolution!*

[@stargazer378]

Then is sperrow its pre-evolve form?

[@jeffreycottle9896]

@Nick Cruz you must live under a rock😂

[@c_f0rce]

@Nick Cruz So you lived under a rock.

[@M3rtyville]

The animators must have read your comment. Fearow appeared as a fake Ho-Oh in a recent episode

[@decoral]

@Nick Cruz Not really Articino resemblancez the Pidgey Line a lot more than Moltres.

[@dt5716]

Can't wait to see Ho-Oh's impact in gen 8 Ubers with the new Heavy Duty Boots. Alongside Regenerator and Roost, it's going to be a nightmare to KO and I suspect it'll run a bulkier variant with double stab, Toxic and Roost.

[@ivoryas1696]

The last one of these videos I'm watching before my final high-school summer vacation ends 😢.

[@drago3036]

I identify :c

[@Zach0451]

I have always been pretty bad at pokemon battles, but whenever I have Ho-Oh on my team it always works out!

[@HunterHerne]

I have always been of the opinion that if you need to use an Olympus Mon to win, you are a scrub player.

[@Zach0451]

@@HunterHerne By this logic, anyone who plays Ubers is a scrub. Did you think before you typed this? (Rhetorical question)

[@HunterHerne]

@@Zach0451 It may be rhetorical, but I'll answer it by saying I have never, nor will I ever, play Smogon tiers. And I have used 3 legendaries against players in the history of my pokemon playing, starting in Gen1. And those were an Incarnate Tornadus rest-talker, a support Raikou, and a generic Heatran.

[@Zach0451]

@@HunterHerne Ooh you're one of *those* players....

[@HunterHerne]

@@Zach0451 Yep, one of those players who value fun and creativity over competitive viability.

[@PapaTaurean]

4th gen was such a double edged sword for Ho-Oh. The physical/special spilt let it's Sacred Fire do more damage, but Stealth Rocks... Oofdah. Fire/Flying really has trouble with that.

[@ShiningJudgment666]

At least they gave him strong secondary STAB.

[@ethanc.1443]

Brave Bird made it that much better

[@sarasaland4709]

Ho-Oh might have less artificial popularity. But it has always been my favorite legend. :)

[@scottlanham577]

This is seriously what I look forward to on Sundays

[@masterplusmargarita]

I don't play competitive Pokemon (though I've picked up a passing knowledge of it over time, in no small part thanks to this series) but... does the community as a whole feel good about Stealth Rocks, or does it get a lot of hate? It seems like a move that defines the meta to such an extent and makes such a large portion of cool Pokemon unusable in high tiers that it seems like a real bummer. (I know that I really, really hate similarly limiting/meta-reducing things in games that I play competitively.)

[@bruhbruh4329]

It's a love it/hate it affair. Some love it because it and spikes can put stall teams on the back foot, forcing them to either take damage on switching to pivots or risk spending a turn not healing or defense boosting. Others hate it because it basically forced almost every fire or flying type in the whole game down a tier or two because of how prominent it was.

[@vroomzoom4206]

It kind of had to be added. No stealth rocks makes stall teams far too effective sadly. Before stealth Rock that's basically all you saw.

[@aceclover758]

SR how it is is bad. Literally makes 50% of Poke unplayable competively, even if said Poke has good stats

[@alexandermcmillan8056]

It's a 50/50, SR helps Pokemon get certain KOs as well as making some Pokemon very good leads because of their access to them, however it does make a lot of Pokemon bad because of the damage.

[@adamchef772]

Stealth rocks used to be far more restricting, nowdays you can built your team however you want because options to get rid of them are plentiful

[@19_LuiSal_95]

It got even better now with Heavy Duty Boots. Ho-Oh is in the top 10 most used Ubers mon. Its amazing.

[@paddeler92]

People: So will Ho-Oh run Choice Band again? Ho-Oh: Nope, just gimme some shoes!

[@ShiningJudgment666]

Giving up a little power or Leftovers recovery to not lose health from Rocks might be worth it.

[@camoking3609]

@@ShiningJudgment666 when you still have healing from roost/recover and regenerator It is extremely worth it Especially because bow ho-oh can act as an anti hazard mon itself

[@jwanie366]

Thanks for including VGC 19 Sun Series teams! Ho-Oh hasn’t been seeing as much usage in Moon Series so far

[@CoolyCools]

Rainbow fearow is a pretty good staple and one of the few that actually got better over the years.

[@iggnifyre6333]

This video was a rollercoaster with all the ups and downs this thing had within the same generation.

[@austineafford]

Ho Oh should learn the moves Wing Attack, Firespin and Flare Blitz on its' own level.

[@BlutwoAnimations]

freaking love ho-oh. just uploaded my reanimated the gold/heartgold intro. how good was ho-oh? in my heart: the best, like no one ever was.

[@vdd1001]

I like seeing my boy Ho oh get better and better with each gen (brave bird in gen 4? Regenerator in gen 5? Dealing with xerneas and some pgroudon in gen 6? gen 8 heavy duty boots? Yes please)

[@thatdankguy5140]

Getting ho-oh at mt battle will forever be one of my favourite gaming memories

[@jolteon43]

Your content is amazing man, I would love to see you covering Ursaring!

[@superzockertvyt9630]

1:00 so we not gonna talk about the movie Pokemon: I choose you?

[@mushroomdude123]

Ho-Oh is one of the sickest pokemon designs ever.

[@BlaximilianD00d]

So simple yet pretty at the same time

[@alecbecker8911]

These videos are so well made, thank you for all the research and great content you put into these. Seriously 10/10 video

[@davidpt]

Ho-Oh is absolutely incredible and I would say almost a must have on any Ubers team. It covers for too many things and is able to be things strong despite the existence of Stealth Rock. Now that's an achievement. Ho-Oh really matches up to Lugia

[@TheBestFormOfHumor]

lol

[@minmin8580]

I know this is 4 years ago but people really need to stop acting like Lugia is so much better because its not 🤡 Lugia is neglected in ubers and is the definition of mid there. While Ho-Oh only got better over the years and has significantly more usage than Lugia.

[@TempestDacine]

I would say that this almost undersells how solid ho-oh is in gen6-7 ubers meta and how it forms the backbone of the primal groudon ho-oh duskmane core. It's such a fantastic pokemon that constantly got better and better in terms of offense and utility.

[@Mynostalgicvideos]

Ho-Oh is the most underrated bird Pokémon and is the best Johto Pokémon. Being the first new region Pokémon shown on TV, Ho-Oh deserves a lot more.

[@wowwt]

In terms of actual competitive gameplay it was nowhere near the best.

[@Mynostalgicvideos]

@@wowwt In terms of what really matters, It's looks and early TV appearance, it is definitely near the best.

[@wowwt]

@@Mynostalgicvideos entei all the way

[@Mynostalgicvideos]

@@wowwt Ho-Oh is my favorite. I'm also a big fan of Entei

[@luisfillipebeserra2108]

@@wowwt Entei is something good in competitive?

[@MarvelMan4]

Ho-Oh is my favorite Pokemon! I remember when people played Marshadow for the first time on Showdown and I always tried to fit a Ho-Oh on my Ubers teams if it could fit. Quite a few people rage quit or gave up because of how easy I KO'ed their Marshadows (ones that didn't play Rock Tomb anyway). Good times!

[@miguelmata4557]

Torterra? FSG: I've never seen this man in my life

[@jakubskupinski7630]

Gen 8: We have these funny boots... Ho-oh "god mode activated"

[@mr.potato]

Ho-oh is literally THE Xerneas counter when using an AV set, taking 40% from a thunder

[@billettebutventi8821]

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Thunder vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Ho-Oh: 188-222 (45.1 - 53.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock…. Nice counter, also brave birb doesn’t do much without any attack investment and you can’t whirlwind

[@jigglypuff4359]

As someone who isn't too familiar with the Ubers meta, I sometimes forget how good Ho-Oh actually is. The rainbow turkey doesn't appear to have any glaring weaknesses that could be fixed simply by slapping a new tool on it.

[@LadyLeomon]

The Phoenix is my absolute favourite Mythical Animal and the Johto Phoenix didn't disappoint! How GOOD was Mightyena ACTUALLY? next please? Thanks for another fun vid False Swipe =^_^=

[@isolajacobs5618]

I glad you create this video.

[@dahubbzgaming]

Interestingly enough, I've always found Ho-Oh to be one of the cooler legendary Pokemons but somewhat forgettable. It probably has something to do with me playing Silver and Crystal over Gold as a kid.

[@hessiankyojin]

12:04 Its best friend turned into its worst enemy.

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

Aw, was hoping we would get Torterra...

[@joegreen3802]

Me to, but that dumbjoke of interrupting a Trio is still a thing

[@felixlee9645]

Or venomoth

[@gengarzilla1685]

This pick upsets me, the interruption squad already had their fun with Sandslash.

[@funninoriginal6054]

Oh-No

[@DeagleBeagle]

This is DeagleBeagle here, lmao Ho-Oh usually ran Passho Berry but you could switch items back then which I did in an attempt to desperately beat Groudon with Rock Slide.

[@speedypichu6833]

I think stealth rock was turning point, but at least you can't switch around your team for all eternitiy

[@speedypichu6833]

No one will notice this comment anyway

[@munchrai6396]

I'm surprised that a move like Refresh was even considered for a Pokémon like Ho-Oh, since running a dedicated cleric with Heal Bell is generally the better option. Also, the fact that Ho-Oh sets are limited enough as to consider running Defog on the Pokémon that you are trying to protect from rocks is pretty hilarious and only works because of Regenerator. Really good showing overall especially the gen 3 segment and the ludicrous number of experimental sets used

[@TheDiego908]

My favorite starter from Sinnoh

[@rosesugarman1372]

Awesome video like always!! Thank you so much!

[@mechathunandthecultofdeath4958]

*HOW GOOD WAS THE MADNESS OF SPIRITOMB ACTUALLY?*

[@emberflameninetales3918]

WHY ARE YOU HERE HEARTHSTONE GOD THIS IS NOT TRUMP OR TOAST'S CHANNEL

[@wolfgangervin2582]

I always love seeing how the Ubers interact with one another.

[@AlexHolmesTennis227]

Funny how ho oh learns curse but it’s power is the opposite

[@siddheshkajrolkar4654]

So mesmerising that Ho-oh is such fan favourite without any artificial pushes from game freak!

[@gardenoir6176]

now I'm wondering the politics behind GSC not banning Lax to Ubers now, and trying to suspect test Celebi?

[@Atari11000]

Well, just like Celebi, this bird indeed rose from the ashes once it got its dream ability, it definitely shined in competitive:)

[@josephhanicak7922]

I named my Ho-Oh "Finger licking good" on Showdown. It's still my best name.

[@Raminator243]

Me before the video: Ho-Oh + stealth rocks= Fried Chicken Me after the video: *adds Ho-Oh to Ubers team on showdown*

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

I still bump Ho-Oh's battle music from HGSS. Hands down best legendary battle music

[@thebecks6356]

Its 4 am i realy need to sleep dont know anything about competitive pokemon but i am still here and watch a Video about for gods sake Ho-Oh

[@sulfricsun5065]

After a couple videos of break, I'm back. How GOOD was Mr.Mime ACTUALLY?

[@RoaringPirates]

Yay I’m glad we got this, Ho-Oh is my favorite

[@WesleyAPEX]

Ho oh is the coolest looking pokemon for sure. Second is darkrai.

[@skinnerlioncity1982]

Nah, mega scizor is the coolest looking Pokemon but Ho oh still looks SUPER cool

[@benny_the_fish1803]

Is incredible to see how an Pokemon that wasn’t too viable,become incredible in competitive!

[@hezhang8843]

I still remember one of Ho-oh's entry: anyone saw Ho-oh, his or her dream will came true. But Ash never won any league pass gen 2😂

[@drago3036]

God-pokemon work in mysterious ways... I guess??? XD

[@Tuckerscreator]

Ash won the Alolan League finally.

[@lane5686]

Ho Oh, the Shinto God Pokemon with power over life and death. Not to mention its majestic theme.