How GOOD was Omastar ACTUALLY? - History of Omastar in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)

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0:00 - Intro
1:40 - RBY/Gen 1
2:22 - GSC/Gen 2
6:14 - ADV/Gen 3
10:24 - DPP/Gen 4
11:49 - BW/Gen 5
13:58 - XY/Gen 6
15:25 - SM/Gen 7
17:18 - Outro
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@Xelianow
@Xelianow 3 жыл бұрын
125 defense, low speed, water typing and access to spikes, stealth rock AND toxic spikes. Omastar: Speedy offense it is!
@Jacobjinglepocket
@Jacobjinglepocket 2 жыл бұрын
That's what weaknesses to Fighting and Ground types will do to you.
@ActualTrash8
@ActualTrash8 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jacobjinglepocket and 4x grass
@ugandaknuckles850
@ugandaknuckles850 2 жыл бұрын
Nah shell smash is usually put on low speed high defense pokemons
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 2 жыл бұрын
@@ugandaknuckles850 yeah, but it didn't have that until gen 5.
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 2 жыл бұрын
because rock type fucking sucks.
@DGSnowolf
@DGSnowolf 4 жыл бұрын
Pokedex: Its heavy shell allowed it to reach only nearby food. This could be the reason it is extinct. Game: SWIFT SWIM!
@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva
@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva 4 жыл бұрын
It could have been a burst speed "sprinter" rather than an endurance "runner" that would mean it's mostly inert in the wild but fast in battles since if they were in real time they'd be over pretty fast.
@DGSnowolf
@DGSnowolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva nice. I like it. Like Spiders arent quick runners but the speed at which they can turn around and grab is pretty much instant.
@LunarSage69
@LunarSage69 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it goes fast but it shell quickly tires it out making it have to eat much of the hard to obtain food
@mrtable2861
@mrtable2861 4 жыл бұрын
Could be worst. They could've given swift swim to a pokemon with barely 2 points more speed than Snorlax like Carracosta. ...oh wait.
@Kevin-wx7wu
@Kevin-wx7wu 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it never rained their crib
@shyguysquad5231
@shyguysquad5231 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar: I have a shell smash up. I am inevitable Leaves and twigs: allow us to introduce ourselves
@sleprvrru6y-lin-92
@sleprvrru6y-lin-92 4 жыл бұрын
Doctor : grass types are not real *grass types* : Omastar : *REEE*
@lamarpray5324
@lamarpray5324 4 жыл бұрын
It gets icebeam
@mastermindcow6210
@mastermindcow6210 4 жыл бұрын
@Jhhhijh no I think Shy Guy Squad is quoting Thanos.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
Lord Helix < Grass Pokémon < Bird Jesus :3
@catandfishfc
@catandfishfc 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar: FOCUS SASH FTW
@sarasaland4709
@sarasaland4709 4 жыл бұрын
Even if it wasn’t the best in competitive, it was a truly impeccable dancer.
@scruffmutt
@scruffmutt 4 жыл бұрын
I guess that’s why it was paired with Ludicolo in rain teams 💃🌧
@tylergianchetta3946
@tylergianchetta3946 4 жыл бұрын
I may be giving too much credit assuming this is the most clever spongebob reference ever made
@Akyure
@Akyure 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylergianchetta3946 i dont get it. Is it for like Patrick Star when he wore lingerie? During the movie?
@tylergianchetta3946
@tylergianchetta3946 4 жыл бұрын
Akyure Animations it’s squidward dancing in his talent contest
@Akyure
@Akyure 4 жыл бұрын
@@tylergianchetta3946 That makes more sense
@LakituAl
@LakituAl 4 жыл бұрын
By virtue of its Gen 1 sprite, it was top tier.
@pokemaniacmasterx3132
@pokemaniacmasterx3132 4 жыл бұрын
Helix's Dance(?).
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 4 жыл бұрын
It had one of the best gen 1 sprites and thats saying allot
@DJBlackNGold
@DJBlackNGold 4 жыл бұрын
Too fabulous for the lower tiers.
@3.2187_Kilometres
@3.2187_Kilometres 4 жыл бұрын
@@xdsmile5359 it's really not saying a lot because most gen 1 sprites were trash until pokemon yellow and even then it took them until gen 2 to get the main look of the pokemon sprites down. Only a few pokemon sprites from gen 1 fit the pokemon style and Omastar just so happens to be one of them.
@fionamacisaac5820
@fionamacisaac5820 4 жыл бұрын
Golbats r/b sprite gives it a run for its money
@mastermindcow6210
@mastermindcow6210 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The shells of real life nautilus (and by extension ammonites, which Omanyte and Omastar are based on) have many gas-filled chambers that reduce the weight of the shell, and even allow the creatures to control their buoyancy.
@JB-bc2ry
@JB-bc2ry 4 жыл бұрын
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW :O
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 4 жыл бұрын
I guess it was handy for Omastar until its shell got really heavy.
@chuyrenteria6252
@chuyrenteria6252 4 жыл бұрын
Already knew that, as I looked over ammonites.
@DJBlackNGold
@DJBlackNGold 4 жыл бұрын
Neat!
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 4 жыл бұрын
All sea creatures that swim normally have that. After all if you are not neutrally buoyant you are constantly struggling to swim upwards which expends a lot of energy. Fishes have a floatation bladder in them.
@lukastanovic8371
@lukastanovic8371 4 жыл бұрын
“Its sheer power was too much for even Ferrothorn to handle” If you can make the bane of Gen 5 OU shiver in fear as a Pokemon with 4x weakness to Grass with your water type moves, you know you’re a dangerous force to be taken seriously.
@belimvasim143
@belimvasim143 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry i am late but 1.5 boost from rain 2+ boost from SHELL SMASH And with 160 power move afcource it's so much for anything to handle If you add all boostes into hydro pump 1.5+2 Then it becomes 480 bp move resisted 2x still it's a 240 bp move
@flamingrubys11
@flamingrubys11 2 жыл бұрын
@@belimvasim143 dont forget spatk values
@lutraenhydris3231
@lutraenhydris3231 3 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 Stats and Onward: HP:70 Attack:60 Def:125 Sp Attack: 115 Sp Def: 70 Speed: 55
@mrtrollnator123
@mrtrollnator123 2 жыл бұрын
Damn
@ducklett01god
@ducklett01god 11 ай бұрын
High defense and good support moves: exists Omastar:gotta go fast
@pepeknight
@pepeknight 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest surprise I had about Omastar was that it was a Swift Swimmer. I fondly remember the time I swept with Shell Smash boosted Swift Swim Omastar under Rain in Gen 5 OU when it was legal and it was glorious. Truly a time where Omastar was worthy of the title Lord. To be honest I think Gen 5 would have been better if the weather abilities were banned. DrizzleSwim was banned BEFORE Darkrai and Shaymin Sky if I remember.
@boryontotheleader2328
@boryontotheleader2328 4 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't had been banned at all
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 4 жыл бұрын
Weak armor is better in the long run.
@PkmnLegendMaster
@PkmnLegendMaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@RandalfElVikingo Not really. Weak armor requires taking hits and each time you do your defense falls more. It's not a great ability most of the time and is a gimmick at best. For example: Skarmory Max HP Defense getting hit by rockslide 252 Atk Terrakion Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 70-84 (20.9 - 25.1%) 252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. - 1 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 166-196 (49.7 - 58.6%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO One defense drop makes it go from a 4HKO to a 2HKO and that's a rather weak move and we're talking a _fully_ invested defensive titan. A -1 defense pokemon isn't going to survive another hit unless it's heavily invested as just demonstrated.
@RandalfElVikingo
@RandalfElVikingo 4 жыл бұрын
@@PkmnLegendMaster It works better in Gen 5 (the time I was using it in Smogon) , but it only works late game. Weak Armor+Shell Armor+ Focus Sash and the moves showed in the video is good coverage. You don't use a sweeper to tank hits, you use it to faint.
@PkmnLegendMaster
@PkmnLegendMaster 4 жыл бұрын
@@RandalfElVikingo In the long Run Shell Smash does everything Weak armor does and doesn't require getting hit. I've run the strategy you're suggesting, ran it in Gen 5 and while it can work, it's far too much of a gimmick to be better than swift swim.
@memelivesmatter8977
@memelivesmatter8977 4 жыл бұрын
Omaster would have been top tier if it had used skillshare.
@TheAztecWarrior100
@TheAztecWarrior100 4 жыл бұрын
Dead
@mr.gulaschkanone5087
@mr.gulaschkanone5087 4 жыл бұрын
Which enraged his father, who punished him surverely (eventually, someone will get this joke)
@squedaroonie
@squedaroonie 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 an oversimplified video? I'm impressed!
@TheMuslimMan1337
@TheMuslimMan1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 Sam' ONella reference?
@GroundBack
@GroundBack 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.gulaschkanone5087 But Mr. Gulaschkanone Omastar didn't enrage his father, the Vikings did
@Quix0tic707
@Quix0tic707 2 жыл бұрын
Finally Sword and Shield… Omastar missed the first stages of Sword and Shield due to Dexit, but came back once the Crown Tundra rolled in. Low Speed and special bulk coupled with common weaknesses landed it in PU once again. There, however, it was an absolute monster. Primeape didn’t survive Dexit, so Omastar now outrun just about everything after Shell Smash, while Gastrodon was making itself nice and comfortable in NU, so Omastar’s main counter was gone too. While PU did have bulky Water types like Vaporeon and Lanturn, they would fold to its new toy: Meteor Beam, a 120 base power Special Rock type move that also boosted Omastar’s Special Attack by one stage. A +3 Meteor Beam blew straight through would be checks like the aforementioned Vaporeon and Lanturn, as well as Roserade, Druddigon and would just vaporise anything that didn’t resist it. Grabbing a Shell Smash was very simple, with Pokemon like Kangaskhan and Talonflame providing ample set up opportunities. Meteor Beam combined with Weak Armor meant it didn’t even always need to set up Shell Smash - it could come in on a physical attack, get the Speed boost, and use Meteor Beam to boost its Special Attack. It could still easily shred offensive teams at +1. Stopping it was a nightmare - the only priority move that OHKOed it was Life Orb Toxicroak’s Vacuum Wave, Ice Beam smashed all Grass types bar the rare Ferroseed, and the bulky Water types that used to give it trouble got blown up by Meteor Beam. It got banned alongside fellow Water types Kingler and Clawitzer, and hasn’t managed to replicate its success in NU yet. Still, being too strong for a tier is already a big win for lord helix. Some players tried to make Omastar work in VGC, with the Weakness Policy Dynamax trick, combined with Weak Armour for a Speed boost. But…Coalossal does that way better, as itisn’t weak to Rillaboom and Regieleki, has its own G Max move and the boost from Steam Engine gives it enough Speed to outrun Regieleki after a boost.
@yeet8036
@yeet8036 2 жыл бұрын
I read everything with Kellen voice and it's amazing
@halberd-3291
@halberd-3291 2 жыл бұрын
Damn this was really well done. Props.
@kanibelazy0585
@kanibelazy0585 4 жыл бұрын
10:23 "Mom said its my turn to play pokemon"
@tomortega7576
@tomortega7576 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I can totally see that
@FalcoVille
@FalcoVille 4 жыл бұрын
Insert Lord Helix joke here.
@McCullyClassic
@McCullyClassic 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@robertgeorge4602
@robertgeorge4602 4 жыл бұрын
Crap. Beat me to it.
@Acacius1992
@Acacius1992 4 жыл бұрын
*Insert UNFUNNY Lord Helix Joke here*
@pokemaniacmasterx3132
@pokemaniacmasterx3132 4 жыл бұрын
Jay Lenno.
@TheMuslimMan1337
@TheMuslimMan1337 4 жыл бұрын
DAE think Lorde Helix is GOD???2??
@meowistforlife
@meowistforlife 4 жыл бұрын
Um, Gen II post special split analysis is missing
@tomthetank9044
@tomthetank9044 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I'd ever see how that 115 special would be split
@snakeywakey3893
@snakeywakey3893 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it got shafted by the special split. It was the opposite of Hitmonchan/Hitmonlee essentially.
@snakeywakey3893
@snakeywakey3893 4 жыл бұрын
@@XCodes Not as bad as I thought it would be. I was expecting a base 55. 70 is ok until later gens where it simply isn't enough to keep up with the power creep.
@Psycho3418
@Psycho3418 4 жыл бұрын
@@snakeywakey3893 Yeah 70 sp.def isn't awful but it's pretty mediocre, especially when it only has 70 hp.
@weebvile7965
@weebvile7965 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar's Gen 1 sprite looks absolutely F A B U L O U S
@c.b.t.c802
@c.b.t.c802 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized that using skillshare is like EV training yourself
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live
@MISTAKEWASMADE4live 4 жыл бұрын
Stfu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@gameinsane4718
@gameinsane4718 4 жыл бұрын
I guess
@fancygecko8936
@fancygecko8936 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah well I have really bad base stats and IVs so honestly I'm not worth the hassle
@c.b.t.c802
@c.b.t.c802 4 жыл бұрын
@@fancygecko8936 what about your nature I bet your adamant at least
@BigRedLeg
@BigRedLeg 4 жыл бұрын
JC-JC Station hes a special attacker tho
@PapaTaurean
@PapaTaurean 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Lord Helix. Rock has too many weaknesses for a "defensive" type. That's it's and many other Rock types biggest problems
@richardalvarez5488
@richardalvarez5488 4 жыл бұрын
Eh omastar mostly suffered from swift swim ban than anything. He was pretty common on gen 5 Ubers tho:) Never needed that def typing when you smash face😂
@erictalaveramartinez4160
@erictalaveramartinez4160 4 жыл бұрын
Rock being weak to grass never made much sense to me.
@13thKingMu
@13thKingMu 3 жыл бұрын
@@erictalaveramartinez4160 i guess grass after being crushed by a real life rock but it still alive
@chaosbreaker657
@chaosbreaker657 3 жыл бұрын
Initially, Rock types have plenty of weaknesses but compensates for having really high Defense in Gen 1. Just look at the Rock types of that generation: Rhydon, Golem, Omastar and Onix. Then Gen 2 introduced the Steel type, and Rock was immediately outclassed, as Steel types not only pack high Defense, but also offers more resistances to the table. The only defensive advantage of Rock was a resistance to Fire type attacks.
@gingermcgingin1733
@gingermcgingin1733 3 жыл бұрын
@@erictalaveramartinez4160 Plants can erode rocks.
@succhead6884
@succhead6884 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar: I am a holy god. Smogon Tiering System: I’m going to have to stop you right there.
@DBZMacky
@DBZMacky 4 жыл бұрын
*ALL HAIL LORD HELIX*
@soulhoney1908
@soulhoney1908 3 жыл бұрын
Never
@smashbrosguyt915
@smashbrosguyt915 3 жыл бұрын
Yes praise lord helix
@cristianordonez7976
@cristianordonez7976 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Ihatebritain
@Ihatebritain 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulhoney1908 yes kabutops is WAY better
@soulhoney1908
@soulhoney1908 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ihatebritain hail the kabutops
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 4 жыл бұрын
Who's ready for spooky ghost type coverage this Halloween?
@backstabber765
@backstabber765 4 жыл бұрын
Halloween is satanic..
@ShinyTillDawn
@ShinyTillDawn 4 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU WORSHIPPING THE DEVIL? YOU WILL ROT IN HELL FOR THAT! lol i would never ask that
@Detective_L
@Detective_L 4 жыл бұрын
Ghost Shuckle confirmed?
@elfofcourage
@elfofcourage 4 жыл бұрын
Either Dusknoir, Cofagrigus, or Trevenant
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 4 жыл бұрын
@@elfofcourage those results include patreon pick?
@justas423
@justas423 4 жыл бұрын
The meme with the power to back it up. That's pretty rare.
@flightnesssnowbirb8318
@flightnesssnowbirb8318 4 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't possess its counterpart Kabutops' menacing appearance" *shows image of a Cthulhu monster after hearing a Joe Mama joke*
@briankim1098
@briankim1098 4 жыл бұрын
Can I offer an alternative title? “How PRAISEWORTHY was Lord Helix actually?”
@wootmasterzorsx
@wootmasterzorsx 4 жыл бұрын
With how the video shows it... Less so as time goes on.
@GreatDG
@GreatDG Жыл бұрын
Who
@GreatDG
@GreatDG Жыл бұрын
Asked
@BobMarley-vj3ol
@BobMarley-vj3ol 4 жыл бұрын
I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Omastar. He was my first Pokemon card. Seeing things like this brings back memories.
@peacefulflower9468
@peacefulflower9468 4 жыл бұрын
> Talks about Omastar's niche in gen 2 involving toxic first and foremost a lot of the time > Doesn't include Toxic in Omastar's OU moveset list Really feelin' that disconnect
@user-eu8jd2be9j
@user-eu8jd2be9j 4 жыл бұрын
Peaceful flower toxic isn’t as good in gen 1 because you can switch out and the toxic poison becomes regular poison, right?
@peacefulflower9468
@peacefulflower9468 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-eu8jd2be9j My comment was about his gen 2 portion, not gen 1. Toxic just wasn't listed during the gen 2 showing of Omastar.
@jmash3243
@jmash3243 4 жыл бұрын
Peaceful flower bro not even Sandstorm was listed, I feel like he needs to take a second look at the move list before uploading, there are usually inconsistencies in that part
@beta511ee4
@beta511ee4 4 жыл бұрын
Jmash324 To be fair, the sets on Smogon are rarely updated to fit the current meta.
@conorlynch007
@conorlynch007 4 жыл бұрын
Literally unwatchable
@stygiandragon3865
@stygiandragon3865 3 жыл бұрын
6:52 "Only do that 25% of the time." Shows Zapdos with 25 health left XD
@mupumupu2842
@mupumupu2842 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to this episode of the BW weather war casualties; today we got omastar
@callmeosho7792
@callmeosho7792 4 жыл бұрын
Lord helix: Me: throws a salad at it Lord helix: *dies*
@abarette_
@abarette_ 4 жыл бұрын
no u
@AwesomeHairo
@AwesomeHairo 4 жыл бұрын
16:34 "If the prospect of smashing is too risky, like it always is"
@Dokurider
@Dokurider 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how successful the OG fossil pokemon were considering how much they had going against them.
@15r52
@15r52 4 жыл бұрын
Yessir
@sigslaughter2709
@sigslaughter2709 4 жыл бұрын
Hey its nice to see you getting sponsors. Alot of work and research go into these videos so its nice to see you getting noticed.
@YourBoyNobody530
@YourBoyNobody530 4 жыл бұрын
One pokemon that should get shell smash is blastoise especially since it has such an awesome move pool containing physical and special stabs along with moves like earth quake, flash cannon, fake out, aura shere, dark pulse, and much much more allowing it to run a great mixed attacking set and have decent bulk while sweeping and not a bad defensive typing to boot
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
I think Blastoise gets denied for lore reasons, its shell is supposed to both be indestructible and a vital part of its body iirc (if its shell broke, would its cannons fall out?). However, the announcement of Charizard for SwooSh heralds the likelihood of Venusaur and Blastoise to make it in as well, and with Charizard getting a G-Max, Venusaur and Blastoise are due boosts as well, so there's still hope...
@nyoron39
@nyoron39 4 жыл бұрын
@@autobotstarscream765 Blastoise and Venusaur didn't receive two megas, it's perfectly possible for GF to give giga thing to Zard and let the other two unchanged.
@autobotstarscream765
@autobotstarscream765 4 жыл бұрын
@@nyoron39 Anything's possible, but that would be kind of gross, *especially* after the aforementioned Mega favoritism.
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 4 жыл бұрын
Then we have to imagine naked Blastoise.
@roninglastrier1996
@roninglastrier1996 4 жыл бұрын
You got yo wish
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 3 жыл бұрын
What is it with the fossils not getting access to Rock Slide until after Gen 2!?
@newbornkilik
@newbornkilik 4 жыл бұрын
A sponsor, nice!! Glad to watch these and support ya!
@MaigaVidal
@MaigaVidal 4 жыл бұрын
So proud of you’re sponsorship!!!
@superdubdub
@superdubdub 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. Have you ever thought about doing coverage on NFE? I doubt it would make sense to cover individual Pokemon, but perhaps a video that details the various metas in each Gen? Not sure if there is enough content to do this, but feels like it would be a cool video.
@gustavorodriguez8702
@gustavorodriguez8702 4 жыл бұрын
THE LORD HELIX IS HERE, BABY!
@jamariirobinson725
@jamariirobinson725 4 жыл бұрын
This is truly a blessed day.
@Stethanaholmes
@Stethanaholmes 4 жыл бұрын
I was actively waiting on thos video all week
@adamhall4549
@adamhall4549 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Keep it up
@DrFishAndco
@DrFishAndco 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vids!
@Bluestar899
@Bluestar899 4 жыл бұрын
6:09 - Omastar vs Feraligatr? I see what you did there. Clever reference.
@droidixbacon
@droidixbacon 3 жыл бұрын
And it was an example of a loss
@bry7507
@bry7507 4 жыл бұрын
ALL PRAISE LORD HELIX lol thank you for the quality content as usual FalseSwipeGaming I look forward to next weeks
@_V.Va_
@_V.Va_ 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar: But I'm nothing without Swift Swim! OU: If you're nothing without the Swift Swim, maybe YOU shouldn't have it.
@xdsmile5359
@xdsmile5359 4 жыл бұрын
Kabutops: OOF
@Ob1tuber
@Ob1tuber 4 жыл бұрын
Ubers: now you can swim fast with us
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 3 жыл бұрын
Call me simple minded in that I'm not doing competitive play, but *nothing* is wrong with Shell Armor. Omastar is built for decent bulk and having guarantees that *no critical hits* are going to ruin you outright is nice. Kind of curious the defensive sets didn't mention using it to stay in long enough to work... Weak Armor is way risky, though.
@TheBestFormOfHumor
@TheBestFormOfHumor 2 жыл бұрын
@@stetsonherrick8090 Even though it won't get crit, even regular attacks still murder it.
@stetsonherrick8090
@stetsonherrick8090 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBestFormOfHumor Resistances to Normal, Flying, Poison, Ice and a quad Resist to Fire, along with a 70/125/70 Defensive stat spread? That's not completely unworkable alongside no critical hits. Unless you were originally only looking at bulk from a Special side over Physical side? If so, is Special assault seriously *THAT* much more lopsidedly broken compared to Physical?
@TheRunescapevidsftw
@TheRunescapevidsftw 4 жыл бұрын
Hey FSG I really enjoy seeing what pokemon lose or gain special defense during the transition between gens 1 and 2 but I didn't see what Omastar gained/lost in this video. Please add it in future gen 1 videos!
@josephrossow8901
@josephrossow8901 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Love your vids, I watch every week. I noticed you didn't show Omastar's stats after the Special split in gen2? So I had to look it up. It looked like it'd be a wall, but I guess the points went into attack. Anyways, just make sure to show the stats on the Gen 2 page too, that'd be nice. Oh, and while I'm here asking for things: would you also show a graphic that displays the pokemon's resistances? I'm not that good with remembering the type resistances and it'd help, like, when you show the stats page, to just have a little blurb that says what it's resistant to and what it's weak too. Love your channel! Can't wait for the next one. Also, I'm REALLY looking forward to seeing the Rotom episode!
@Dogmagic420
@Dogmagic420 Жыл бұрын
Playing blue version as a kid, omastar was my favorite pokemon to the point of overleveling it before the e4 at the cost of the rest of my team
@booyahgenius
@booyahgenius 3 жыл бұрын
The legendary Lord Helix approves this message.
@meetalisinghal366
@meetalisinghal366 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@Mikman360
@Mikman360 4 жыл бұрын
Good video as usual Kellen, but I couldn't help but notice some odd drops in information here that sorta bugged me. For Gen 2, you didn't even post the new stat distribution after the Special split. On top of that, you talked a lot about Sandstorm and Toxic, but they didn't even show up on the popular moves list. This isn't meant an attack though, I just want to make sure your videos keep up the good quality they've been in the past. Still loving your content as usual!
@TheColosseum09
@TheColosseum09 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always enjoyed playing with Omastar when I could fit it onto a rain team. I’d say a decent improvement could have been to potentially give it Warer absorb as a hidden ability although Weak armor was good for certain situations.
@Wolfism
@Wolfism 4 жыл бұрын
Greeeat, Omastar is one of my favourite Water Pokemon😍😍✨ But please, do Raticate next🐀
@mrtrollnator123
@mrtrollnator123 2 жыл бұрын
Praise Lord helix!
@molksmorgen9103
@molksmorgen9103 4 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly surprised that you didn't mention Omastar in gen 6 RU at all. It wasn't RU by usage but it had a fairly notable metagame presence doing its old tricks like setting hazards/smashing, especially during the early meta where at least one very prominent team made by New Breed featured it. (Lead Omastar/Life Orb Hitmonlee/Doublade/Dugtrio/Specs Meloetta/Speed Boost Yanmega, the fact some of these pokemon were legal in RU at the time really shows its age lol). Even by the end of the metagame it was still considered good enough that it was B rank on the RU viability rankings on the forums.
@skyqueenmavis4926
@skyqueenmavis4926 4 жыл бұрын
former rutl molk btw
@molksmorgen9103
@molksmorgen9103 4 жыл бұрын
btw i'm a big fan of your content, especially considering i've played a bunch of these metagames myself!
@joelmartinez1551
@joelmartinez1551 4 жыл бұрын
You need more subscribers great videos
@JToon78
@JToon78 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that both Kabutops and Omaster are in the same tier in every Generations they're in.
@terraSpark902
@terraSpark902 3 жыл бұрын
I've found great success with Omastar in Gen 1 OU. With Hydropump, Blizzard, Rest, and Submission; Chansy is no problem and it's bulk makes it do consistently well against all the other normal types, and great against Wrap or Clamp spam. My Omastar does well against Tauros, Chansy, Snorlax, Dragonight, Charizard, Rydon, Cloyster, and it certainly still gives Alacazam, Slowbro, and Starmie a hard time.
@chrysspeeddraws7617
@chrysspeeddraws7617 4 жыл бұрын
0:34 Gen 1 Omastar striking that pose 💃
@aroperdope
@aroperdope 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar was/is that type of Pokemon that sometimes had me forgetting that he had a dual weakness...
@russellwilson4443
@russellwilson4443 4 жыл бұрын
I love how every single Generation 1 Pokemon is in pu for Gen 7 and 8
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 3 жыл бұрын
non mega: tauros charizard venusaur blastoise vileplume starmie dragonite zapdos moltres machamp mew mewtwo arcanine alakazam golbat magneton gyarados slowbro tentacruel gengar
@DSmittie
@DSmittie 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a great marketing tactic: How good was SkillShare actually (Also Crawdaunt pls, I feel like it is an underrated mon due to it having Adaptability)
@Graysett
@Graysett 4 жыл бұрын
Crawdaunt was the cleanup sweeper on my UU Trickroom team back in gen 6. I miss that team.
@bengioukulele900
@bengioukulele900 4 жыл бұрын
Crawdaunt is a fan favourite, everyone knows is niche in OU and people love styling with me. But the mon needs a lot of skill due to terrible defense and speed
@glaciveestudios6170
@glaciveestudios6170 4 жыл бұрын
Crawdaunt was never underrated after the physical special split in gen 4. If you thought so, you are wrong. It's even in the UU tier. Many strong Mons are on the same level
@glaciveestudios6170
@glaciveestudios6170 4 жыл бұрын
@@bengioukulele900 It does have Aqua Jet. And mostly trick room teams bring out the potential of it. Just swords Dance and you sweep. Same for Marowak
@bengioukulele900
@bengioukulele900 4 жыл бұрын
@@glaciveestudios6170 today OU can play around crawdaunt aqua get
@skellingtron817
@skellingtron817 4 жыл бұрын
when i saw the post with everyone commenting for it i thought you had already done this one
@yuvalwh
@yuvalwh 4 жыл бұрын
Time to go through all the comments saying that they chose the helix fossil
@skye.xv88
@skye.xv88 4 жыл бұрын
Well I chose the dome fossil most of the time lol
@yuvalwh
@yuvalwh 4 жыл бұрын
@@skye.xv88 nice me too but everyone I know chose helix
@nictouris6054
@nictouris6054 4 жыл бұрын
Praise!
@Trinthegay
@Trinthegay 4 жыл бұрын
@@skye.xv88 You sinner
@snivyboy168
@snivyboy168 4 жыл бұрын
I usually choose Dome, 'cause I think Kabutops is awesome. R.I.P me. (I still like Omastar, though.)
@LadyLeomon
@LadyLeomon 4 жыл бұрын
All praises be to Lord Helix 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Thanks for another great vid False Swipe 💙🐱💙 P.S How GOOD was Mightyena ACTUALLY? please? I know there are other ‘Yena fans out there! I don’t mind if there are no VGC platings for it at all, I just really want to see my main Darkmon get a turn in the spotlight! Please?
@skye.xv88
@skye.xv88 4 жыл бұрын
If you wanna vote for Mightyena: Search for the community post and vote there. He doesn't check votes in comments anymore, because it's harder. When you go on his channel, slide to the community tab and comment your vote under your post.
@LadyLeomon
@LadyLeomon 4 жыл бұрын
Bálint // Master King I’ve been told that before but on my app it just says basically “use KZbin on your phone for Community Tabs”, I can’t do that so I’m just hoping Mightyena gets chosen eventually 😓😓😓 Thanks anyway 👍🏻
@rosarioesquivel1126
@rosarioesquivel1126 4 жыл бұрын
OMG, that sounds like a good video
@kyledean1966
@kyledean1966 4 жыл бұрын
0:29 Omastar’s feed and seed (Formerly extincted)
@MattDustyParker
@MattDustyParker 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar certainly impresses!
@Oscar_Cortes
@Oscar_Cortes 4 жыл бұрын
Let us consult with the Helix Fossil and see and hear it's infinite wisdom in this video.
@CheshireTheMaid
@CheshireTheMaid 2 жыл бұрын
"There's a time and place for everything, but not now."
@flashfrozen7401
@flashfrozen7401 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. Look at that Gen 1 sprite xD
@extonjonas6820
@extonjonas6820 4 жыл бұрын
I swept in NU many time with one Omastar team in gen 7. It was weak armor, focus sash and shell smash. It was really fun
@hologaster
@hologaster 4 жыл бұрын
7:06 the 69% chance of one-hit KO an offensive Jirachi.... NICE!!!
@xJC4Rx
@xJC4Rx 3 жыл бұрын
I used Omastar on my Sandstorm triples team. He did well.
@draconicimperium2713
@draconicimperium2713 4 жыл бұрын
I still use Omastar in NU with life orb shell smash. Haven't used it for a while since my teams got wiped when my school screwed up my Chromebook, but unless something serious has changed in the 3 months since I played, it works pretty decent
@fullstopdice
@fullstopdice 3 жыл бұрын
It got meteor beam in gen8 which helps it as a special rock type stab
@AtChiaPet
@AtChiaPet 4 жыл бұрын
We must praise Lord Helix for good RNG in future battles
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 4 жыл бұрын
wow, Omastar actually an Ubers & OU monster at times, much unexpected
@SSB_Seal
@SSB_Seal 4 жыл бұрын
"Omastar, how could I not shine?" -Ludwig
@supershmueli
@supershmueli 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a Primape episode
@jwanie366
@jwanie366 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar has always been outclassed by other water types in VGC. RIP
@jabroni_james
@jabroni_james 4 жыл бұрын
Not menacing?! It looks terrifying. Also praise lord helix
@MissAshley42
@MissAshley42 3 жыл бұрын
I great quite fond of my first Omastar. Such a weird and wiggly little fella.
@r3io4mf
@r3io4mf 3 жыл бұрын
he is god
@ThunderGun2
@ThunderGun2 4 жыл бұрын
About damn time.
@icemann6017
@icemann6017 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar was also used on gen6 rain teams, although it was a bit niche
@sandrahwu
@sandrahwu 4 жыл бұрын
“As the process of smashing would be too risky.” 😏
@Swampratatta
@Swampratatta 3 жыл бұрын
always is 🥴
@swallow_skyla3602
@swallow_skyla3602 4 жыл бұрын
How CUTE are Omastar's undulating tentacles ACTUALLY
@flaviotzn9606
@flaviotzn9606 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the character of your pfp?
@blazeboy1809
@blazeboy1809 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a coincidence that there is a 69% to KO Jirachi
@scottharris6116
@scottharris6116 4 жыл бұрын
Serious question regarding Skillshare. Is there a time limit for claiming the 2 month free trial?
@KW-12
@KW-12 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar + Swift Swim + Shell Smash is one of the most agressive sweepers of the game. Its only a lowet tier because of the ban of the abilities Drizzle and Swift Swim. So Omastar is amazing with that combo and is one of the best fossil pokemon out there.
@gojirarex5138
@gojirarex5138 Жыл бұрын
I mean they are only banned in gen 5
@munchrai6396
@munchrai6396 4 жыл бұрын
Omastar is quite the unique Pokémon because we don't see fast hazard setters that can also hold their own offensively very often. From my own experience, this combination is still quite powerful in Ubers especially on something like Ribombee, with its Bug Fairy Typing hitting almost every super fast Pokémon in the tier outside of Genesect
@StickMaster500
@StickMaster500 4 жыл бұрын
While Arceus created the Pokemon Universe, Lord Helix created Arceus
@blazie42069
@blazie42069 4 жыл бұрын
So true
@MLG35U5
@MLG35U5 4 жыл бұрын
StickMaster500 facts
@Ecchiweeb
@Ecchiweeb 4 жыл бұрын
Helix is trash and no lord
@SolusEmsu
@SolusEmsu 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to actually show the stats again after the Gen2 Special split. I had to go to Serebii to see what you meant about its Sp. Def stat being low. Just sayin' as a Genwunner I was not aware that the split hurt it so bad, so would have been nice to put it there as you usually do.
@greghannigan7788
@greghannigan7788 4 жыл бұрын
Next week we got to wait for dusknoir or spiritomb
@alexdrake4081
@alexdrake4081 4 жыл бұрын
Hey FSG can you please do Bisharp or Krookidile? I will not give up!
@CC-hx8gj
@CC-hx8gj 4 жыл бұрын
7:05 Nice
@lucystarlight4005
@lucystarlight4005 4 жыл бұрын
How good was Conkeldurr Actually?
@GabrielVitor-kq6uj
@GabrielVitor-kq6uj 4 жыл бұрын
seriously though it is on the description, but I just don't seem to find it, which song is that you use on this videos?
@linkuriboh471
@linkuriboh471 4 жыл бұрын
I use Omastar in the Gen 4 Battle Tower in a rain dance team and I did pretty well. Shell Smash Omastar in Gen 5 isn't too shabby in a fast paced meta.
@jptheflipper3825
@jptheflipper3825 4 жыл бұрын
At last, Omastar has been covered after a year of requesting it, all hail the Lord Helix. I will admit, I have never used one in the rain, so never thought to use it as a rain sweeper. I often used it late game once the special attackers were out of the way or in sand either with or against Tyranitar. Also from Gen 4 onwards I used it with Ancientpower for STAB and got the boost every so often.
@calvinmatthews1527
@calvinmatthews1527 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Omastar is my favorite fossil pokemon, much better than Kabutops imo. I definitely want them to buff it sometime in the future.
@2022irons
@2022irons 4 жыл бұрын
FSG: UNFORTUNATELY, Omastar was extinct in the seventh generation. Audience: (booing intensifies)
@pacoramon9468
@pacoramon9468 Жыл бұрын
The special split did him dirty.
@Shenaldrac
@Shenaldrac 4 жыл бұрын
I always chose the Helix Fossil when I was a kid playing the original games. Not because I especially liked Omanyte, but because I was such a *stupid* child that I misread "Dome Fossil" as "Dumb Fossil" and tiny 5 year old me was like "Pssh, I'm not picking no dumb fossil! I'm too smart for that!"
@jamesdeionjjr.3423
@jamesdeionjjr.3423 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do Rampardos next please
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