How Good Was The East During Michael Jordan's Era?

[@momo.ru-kun]

Don't forget that the East All Stars whooped the West during the 90s.

[@arsonhakobyan]

In 92' they didn't.

[@wetlettuce8215]

92 they did not buuutttt 91,93,94,95,96,97,98,99 they did. Fair enough for you mate?

[@crayzeegaming9726]

Damn, XD

[@yargnad]

And either way he destroyed the best from the west six times in the finals.

[@jacobzuccolotto2385]

Michael Hatamosa lol the west won in 93 and 95 and there wasn’t even an all star game in 99

[@dustinf49]

It really doesn't make a difference. Michael Jordan will be a household name until the sun becomes a red giant and destroys our planet.

[@brohype]

#ThankYou! #NoOneIsClose!

[@TheHuskyK9]

ayy red giants

[@drunkenramble4120]

@Hugh Jassel lol

[@naturewisdom677]

Earth is flat though ☺

[@antoinoewing2996]

Facts!!!

[@newnamek96]

The jordan led bulls were so good, it is considered an achievement to push them to 7 games lol

[@newnamek96]

@Arden Yosafat too bad they had to see the knicks that year. They were a problem for the bulls when jordan was there

[@allanhouston6759]

@Arden Yosafat Stop raving. The Bulls lost in the second Round. They did not claim the title. *By their second season without Michael Jordan the Chicago Bulls had grown from the best team in the league to one of the worst team in the league.* Record: 34-31.

[@allanhouston6759]

@Arden Yosafat *D Wade defeated Prime Dirk Nowitzki sans Lebron James in the 2006 Nba Finals.* But with Lebron, he lost to Dirk Nowitzki in the 2011 Nba Finals. Lebron Choked. Lebron James joined D Wade, who had already won the title before Lebron James. Check your facts. The 2011 Cavs were a completely different team. Lebron fans are mostly casual.

[@allanhouston6759]

@Arden Yosafat Check your facts. *The entire starting lineup was gone or injured, along with their coach. It was a total roster overhaul, not just Lebron"s departure, that caused Cleveland to fall apart.* In 2011, the Cavs got a new Coach. Shaquille O"Neal went to Boston. Mo Williams - Missed 46 games. Anderson Varegao - Missed 51 games. Antawn Jamison - Missed 26 games. Anthony Parker - Missed 10 games. Shaq, Ilgauskas and West left the team. It was a completely different team. 1993/94 season: The Bulls added new players and managed to keep Prime Horace Grant in their ranks. *JORDAN never played with Toni Kucoc, Horace Grant, Armstrong, Steve Kerr and Longley all at the same time.* You don"t even know the history of the modern league. And you have the nerve to talk about the Nba of the 90s. You are clearly a casual fan and have no idea what you are talking about you.

[@allanhouston6759]

@Arden Yosafat MJ didn"t choke like Lebron James, and he didn"t have a super team. MJ was the only star player in his team. He lost to a team that had 5 Hall of Fame players. Lebron with a super team lost to Dirk Nowitzki and old Jason Terry ( age 33 ). *D Wade =26- 7- 5, FG-54%.* MJ didn"t have that luxury. But Lebron James still lost even with that help.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

There will never be another 6-0 finals team that never allowed a gm 7. There will never be another 6-time final's mvp whose final's average is 41pts. That's insane!!!! In Jordan's era there was trash talking, hand checking, no defensive 3 secs, no tick tac fouls, true rivalries, & dominant 7 ft centers clogging up the paint. MJ never jumped teams, but still managed to dominate His era like no other contemporary.

[@bizboy5]

Bingo. Let the men play! A "hard foul" back then gets you kicked out of the game today. ANY taunting today gets you a T. Let the men talk! The physical play of the mid 90's was perfect in my opinion.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

bizboy5 real talk! It was like playing at the playground against the vets. You had to earn everything you got and there were no shortcuts to get there.

[@yallaretrippin7947]

wow crazy i didnt know MJ averaged 40 points over his career

[@marcosrivera7290]

Jordan did not average 40 ppg over his career.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Juan Rivera you misread my comment. Everything in my comment is "final's centric" , thus I sited the Bulls being 6-0, and never allowing a gm 7. I sited MJ's 6 final's mvps and His final's average of 40pts for His career. No other player has done that before. GOAT!!!!

[@CampingMIG]

Those 90s Pacer teams were fun to watch: Reggie Miller, Rick Smits, Detlef Shrepf, Chuck Person...

[@jerimeyperry3282]

Mark jackson, Dale and Antonio davis, derrick Mckey later Jalen rose,

[@jerimeyperry3282]

No one ever had an easy game in the 90s.

[@allanhouston6759]

1998 Pacers: *Reggie Miller HoF - All-star 1998.* *7"4 Rik Smits - All-star 1998.* The Pacers had 6 guys who were All-stars at one point or another in that roster. *Anthonio Davis - 1x All-star,* *Mark Jackson - 1x All-star, 1x Assists leader.* *Derrick McKey - 2x All-Defensive Team.* *Chris Mullin HoF ( age 34 ),* *Dale Davis - 1x All-star.*

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@allanhouston6759 1998 Pacers sucked. Yet so did the NBA

[@kathyurschel8983]

The 90's the Pacers were my favorite team. In the 80's it was the bad boys.

[@AngelRivera-qv3ps]

He still was averaging over 20 points while with the wizards

[@chilln712]

Yup 20 points on 19 shots!😂😂😂

[@allanhouston6759]

@@chilln712 JORDAN ( age 39, 40 )= 21-ppg. FG-43%. 6-RPG. 4.4-APG. 1.5-spg. 0.5-bpg. 2-TOV. Kobe Bryant ( age 32 )= 25-ppg. FG-45%. 5-RPG. 4.7-APG. 1.2-spg. 0.1-bpg. 3-TOV. JORDAN ( age 39 ) 2001/02 season before injury through 46 games ( Pts, Rebs, Assists. ) *25- 6- 5, FG-42% and 1.6-spg. 0.5-bpg.*

[@chilln712]

Allan Houston so you're saying at 39 & 40 he averaged 21 points on 21 shots after a full 13 seasons of NBA ball? Wonder how them legs would've done at year 17? 😂😂😂😂

[@allanhouston6759]

@@chilln712 Check your facts. Kobe Bryant ( age 32 )= 25-ppg. FG-45%. 5-RPG. 4.7-APG. 1.2-spg. 0.1-bpg. 3-TOV. Kobe Bryant ( age 35 )=14-ppg. FG-42%. 4-RPG 6-APG. 1.2-spg. 0.2-bpg. 5-TOV. Kobe Bryant ( age 36 )= 22-ppg. FG-37%. Kobe Bryant ( age 37 )= 18-ppg. FG-36%.

[@chilln712]

Allan Houston lmfao so use the year Kobe fucked up his knee in his 18th season and played 6 games! How about you use the year before or after?? Way to cherry-pick it!

[@ElohimPenemue]

Those mid to late 90's Atlanta Hawks were a pretty good team with Mookie Blaylock, Steve Smith, Stacie Augman, Kevin Willis & Dikembe Mutumbo.

[@brotherLee340]

Even before that. Our lates 80s/ early 90s teams was good. Dominique and company

[@gamble777888]

Kevin Willis and Augman never played with Mutombo, (they did with Nique though) The early 90's Hawks were not that good except one season in which they decided to trade the best player in franchise history for Danny Manning, effectively ruining their chances at doing anything in the playoffs. They rebuild and then the Smitty, Mookie, Mutombo, Laetner team emerged which was a fantastic team but had no chance in hell against the 68 win Bulls.

[@fuckthechinesevirus9462]

The 94 Hawks were fake No. 1 seed

[@dennisjr77]

Don’t sleep on the human highlight reel!

[@MrOunce3]

Seatle. Payton, Kemp, Vin Baker, Detlep Shrempf.

[@michaelbrooks6963]

Larry Bird, called Michael, God, in gym shoes..Enough said....

[@JrRimp]

Yep

[@J34xalpha_KING]

Respect among 2 GOATS of the game.

[@samuelkeay6560]

did you, really, need so many, commas?

[@bilalamarumosi8282]

He said that for that 1 game and guess what? The bulls still lost

[@willydoe7315]

Larry bird is the most selfless goat, he called magic the greatest he ever seen after he lost in the finals. But bird is actually better than magic. And bird is the only player to beat Isiah magic Hakeem and Jordan something like that.

[@navaropalm6111]

Those 97 & 98 finals were much harder than ppl realize b/c Jazz was actually the Spurs of 90's.

[@lainiwakura4678]

93 too. If Paxson doesn't make that shot game 7 is in Phoenix and the Suns have a ton of momentum. I really think if Paxson misses that MJ isn't 6-0 in the finals. But he did. That entire team was clutch. Not just Mike. Kerr, Kukoc, BJ, Wennington, and Buechler all knocked down huge buckets in their playoff runs. Pippen was clutch in other ways.

[@obi-nine1504]

Don’t compare them to the Spurs

[@jonathantorres4101]

@@obi-nine1504 exactly. spurs way better lol

[@tj5180]

@@jonathantorres4101 I agree but they were actually elite teams including the rockets and Sonics also suns even the blazers. Neither the spurs even got past them. Jazz beat the Lakers and big 3 rockets also the spurs

[@AsavageEP]

No..they weren't.

[@TDB2509]

Hoodie Melo may be good..... But Atlanta Hawks Melo was godly

[@TDB2509]

For those who dint get it he gut traded to Atlanta and was cut from the team immediately

[@BlastOff7698]

Why are you comment in your own comment 😕 Whatever, you need help.

[@BlastOff7698]

Hopefully these 2 comments of yours get flooded. You're annoying af.

[@TDB2509]

Huge NBA Fan jeez you’re sensitive. Offended over comments? Nice one

[@McBigP13]

Tdb11 is right tho. Who else could get payed 27 million and not play a single game for the team. Melllooooo the goat

[@RTOneZer0]

Driving to the paint during the 80-90's always had a real potential of ending up in the emergency unit of a hospital.

[@jhonmichaelberina8960]

the reason of some early retirement..

[@nyakadot.esq.2746]

4sho

[@BigDiscussions76]

Yeah the Riley-Knicks were totally legit. I was a Bulls fan and those series could've gone either way🏀🏀🏀🏀

[@mashwork6615]

The east was definitely tough during the bulls championship runs. Reggie Miller and the pacers, Ewing and the knicks, Shaq and Penny Magic, the bad boy pistons. Definitely tougher than Lebrons east for sure

[@m.A.A.dGanja420]

@J Day Explain.

[@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains]

​@@m.A.A.dGanja420 he forget to mention expansion teams that were added into the league . drafting more scrubs than ever , re signing more wash up players than needed to fill this teams up . pool of talent is lowered due to this , while other teams talent further spreaded out , mj retain his team and further adding better players into his team like rodman , steve kerr etc. pacer was overrated that has absolutely shit rim protection , knicks defense was GREAT defensively but offensively? they ain't even anywhere near average offensively and they gave bulls challenge . bad boy piston stop mj in playoffs , they slip some zoning in to stop mj and it was useful . in years to come , mj and bulls have been complaining to refs to disallow the piston to run zone against mj . in this era , the only thing stopping lebron is zoning(not a fan of leflop but i give credit where its due) . kawhi was always expert in forcing lebron to help defense side to trap him ,while slightly weaker than lebron he was able to match lebron in terms of speed , length and his amazing defense basketball IQ . you sure have seen lebron bullying his defender when things don't go his way and called for a offensive foul and shit. those defenders that gave him trouble are unable to match his size and strength . but 80s and 90s while defender are able to be more physical with you , you are also allowed to be more physical with them . imagine what lebron can do to his defender if he has the green light . make no mistake lebron is weak minded , but mj era is overrated . not to mention shortening of 3 pt line and no zone defense . if you're into analystic , you would have seen the need for pick and roll offense and 3 pt shooting spiked up dramatically over the years to counter zoning when it came back . every players from 90s that played into 2000s have complained about zoning . kg tmac kobe duncan , allen iverson webber even mj himself .

[@m.A.A.dGanja420]

@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains You failed to explain why LeBron's Eastern Conference competition was stronger than Jordan's. Kudos for writing so many words though.

[@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains]

@@m.A.A.dGanja420 im explaining. Lack of zone defense is allowing more 1on1 in the past without much interferance from other teams help defense. You can drag good rim protector out of the paint by telling ur big man to stay at 3pt line. If oppsite team bigman dont stay with his man at 3 pt line instead camping around the paint to help is considered an illegal defense . Tech ft rewarded and the ball back to score again. This zone bothered mj. Thats why phil tell hjs players to exploit the rules so jordan can score. I already said pacer is overrated with trash inside rim protection with sloppy flopper center. Knicks were great defensively and were trash offensively. If you study their team you would realize knicks were not even near average offensively to fight the bulls. And knicks gave bulls problems. Sir charles suns defense in the final ? Cant even guard my grandma on a wheelchair. Like ive said fuck leflop but i gjve credit where its due. Look at the cav lebron first brought to finals ? So damn trash. The moment lebron left they cant even go playoffs. He brought cavs over magic howard , celtics big 3 . Piston . The team he faced has balanced of good offense and defense . Note im a fan of boston. If you realize the teams that always destroys lebron are teams that run hybrid zone defense against him. Mj didnt faced this problem since refs destroyed piston by strongly disallowing zoning from bad boy piston. Before pippen ame mj never got past 1st round no matter how much individual success he has. Remember when mj first retired to go swing a bat to honor his father wish? The bulls still made the playoffs with pippen . Losing only 2 games more in regular season Went deep into playoffs , lost due to bullshit calls imo that made bulls lost a close game that they could have won. Bulls are still a playoffs team that went deep in playoffs without mj. And cavs heat ? They cant even made playoffs after he left. While i agree lebrkn playstyle makes his teammates go inconsistent and hes weak minded . I cannot ignore hes better

[@m.A.A.dGanja420]

@@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains The introduction of zone in professional basketball proved that defense had gone downhill and that players couldn't keep up with their man. There are many fans who think zone in pro ball is some BS. As a professional player, you should be able to keep your man in front of you. Zone breeds complacency and laziness. Just move around in your little area and leave the liability to someone else when a player gets past you. Lol name one opponent James had in the East that was even close to as good as NY with Ewing in his prime. The Pacers were incredibly gritty and scrappy. They were also very physical. Jordan also faced and demolished a young and freakishly athletic Shaq, with Hardaway on Orlando. These are just the 90's opponents. A young Michael Jordan in the 80's was facing legendary Boston Celtics squads and the Detroit Pistons Bad Boys. Jordan had the much stiffer competition in the East, hands down.

[@anonimuso]

As a former Knicks fan, man those rivalries were epic. You would never miss Bulls-Knicks on NBC on Saturday afternoon with Perv...I mean Marv Albert. And it seemed like they played each other every other weekend. :)

[@kayelones]

Thanks for making this video it's my whole Argument why Michael Jordan is the greatest over LeBron can you please do one on LeBron Eastern conference I personally feel that he would not have made it out of the East eight or nine years in a row in the 80 and 90 especially with the teammate he had

[@gianadavis-cainblm4806]

Yeah lebron had nobody except kyrie and Kevin Iove

[@rodbod1564]

The moment pippen entered his prime Jordan never lost Give Jordan 1 other superstar he was unstoppable

[@barrettlovett2238]

Just like Kobe. He hit his prime with the fro, and the Lakers were 100% unstoppable.

[@arisvalmonte793]

Dennis Rodman

[@CrazyRay7979]

Pippen wasn’t a superstar, he was a great sidekick

[@allanhouston6759]

@@arisvalmonte793 RODMAN was 36 years old, he was old. Prime RODMAN played vs MJ. *RODMAN was good in 1996. But in the 1997 and 1998 Playoffs, he played very poorly.*

[@alexescutia4805]

@@allanhouston6759 check out how old rodman was when he started his streak of leading the league in rebounding his defensive prime maybe was the pistons in not sure I didn’t watch but his rebounding game evolved to new levels with experience

[@jkbezo1]

Those Milwaukee Bucks teams during the 1980s were kinda underrated . Very good teams. They had tough luck having been eliminated by the 76ers and Celtics almost every season that decade in the playoffs. And when they did beat one of those teams in the series prior , they would lose to the other one in the next round or ECFs. It was common . Had they gone on to the NBA Finals , they would have at least won another NBA title against the Lakers or Rockets during the 1980s. Milwaukee had great defensive teams. Moncrief, Cummings, Hodges, Pierce, Pressey, Breuer, Dunleavey, Thompson, Mokeski, Johnson, etc The Celtics, 76ers and Pistons were winning NBA titles during the 1980s. Only the Lakers from the West were winning NBA titles in the 1980s. Only the Rockets challenged them most during that decade and the Denver Nuggets (run and gun team ,like the Lakers but chokd in the playoffs) The Bucks were already a powerhouse going back to the 1970s, even won an NBA title in 1971 as an expansion team (only their 3rd year in existence). But they stayed very good into the 1980s with a new crop of players, by the early 1990s tho they got old and were rebuilding most of that decade. Until the late '90s - early '00s, their return to the playoffs. But, the 1980 realignment when the Dallas Mavs were an expansion team. The Bucks, Pistons and Bulls moved to the East. While the Spurs and Rockets moved to the West with the new expansion team Dallas. Which made geographical sense. But, that kinda hurt the Bucks as they constantly ran into the Celtics, 76ers in the playoffs that entire decade. While the Lakers had very little competition in the West. The Rockets and Nuggets in some years, but they were normally underperformers in the playoffs. Rockets did get to the NBA Finals in a couple of seasons in the '80s, but were beaten against the Celtics both times. The Jazz, Suns, Trailbalzers were too young during the mid-late '80s and not ready. Seattle SuperSonics, Golden State , good teams during the '70s, were mostly rebuilding during the '80s, stunk most seasons. The Mavs were too new a franchise and stunk most years. Clippers and Kings were mainly bad that decade, minus a few good years for the Kansas City/Sacramento Kings. The San Antonio Spurs were not ready and usually faded during the playoffs. After Gilmore was traded to the Bulls and Iceman Gervin retired, the Spurs sunk to a lottery team . From the mid - late '80s Spurs had losings seasons, missed the playoffs. Made the playoffs one year under .500, but got swept as expected by the Lakers. 6 losing seasons in a row for the Spurs (worst period in Spurs history) almost forced relocation or at least talks of it, attendance was down, they are in a smaller market. Possible was to be to Either to Orlando or Charlotte, but those teams ended up getting expansion teams. But, the Spurs resurgence under newcomer lottery pick David Robinson and Sean Elliot. During the '90s helped saved their franchise in some ways. They were always in the playoffs during the '90s (but kept choking again usually against the Rockets, Suns, Jazz) except for the '97 season when Robinson and Elliot were hurt majority of the season, they hit the lottery again with Duncan and finally got over the hump in '99 winning their first NBA title. Point is, the Lakers had little resistance in the West during the '80s. Mainly the choking Nuggets or Rockets (who choked often as well). Milwaukee was realigned to the East where the stronger teams were during the '80s (Celtics, Hawks, 76ers, Pistons, Cavs). The shift to the West being the better conference happened around the early 2000s, when MJ retired coincentinly. It has been that way ever since. Although it may shift back to the East soon.

[@WeCube1898]

They Had G 6'4 Alvin Robertson part of the 1984 US Olympic Gold Team, and hell of Defender ala Joe Dumars

[@anueltoothache1385]

90’s ERA WAS TOUGH !💪🏽

[@hermanschy3247]

No it aint.

[@ALIBIGPP69]

@@hermanschy3247 Defenders pushed people attacking the basket all the time and it wasn't even called a foul try doing that today and it's an immediate fine.

[@gregorycunningham6160]

The East was waaaaaay stronger during Jordan's years than the WEAK Eastern Conference that Bron played in. FACT

[@MetalGearEeezus]

Super-fact!!

[@prince_sach50]

About the same

[@relaxstaycalm1906]

Yep.

[@gregoryldismukes]

Lies like who don't name any 80's teams because Jordan didn't win shit. The Magic where only good 2 seasons, Pacers didn't become a good team until the mid to late 90's. The Nicks are the only team that was good during Jordan's run.

[@danielhartnett9242]

Dr Yosef Ben- Jochannan a team full of guys name Nick? Damn what a squad

[@J3MOdh3NOWX3S]

Thx for mentioning the 80s bucks, if it wasn't for one of the greatest teams ever,(Celtics) they'd have a couple rings from that era.

[@williamalequin17]

Definitely a forgotten team. I think I read somewhere that behind the Celtics and Lakers they had the 3rd best winning percentage in the 80's.

[@midwestoutfit1061]

East was much better then the west 80s n definitely the 90s. The bulls may have won but they was not the best each yr. 91 92 93 96 97 98 just cause they won dont mean they was the best out the east. They won cause Jordan refused to lose once he got the taste of 91 championship. He work to hard to get past Boston n Detroit. Who where champions already.

[@kenhernandez8128]

The entire NBA was good during MJs career.

[@easymoneysniper6ix920]

But bronsexual fan boi say mj played with bums

[@easymoneysniper6ix920]

But bronsexual fan boi say mj played with bums🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@naaatre]

Clorox Bleach they should drink you

[@sandernista6499]

As soon as the east gets better, lebron leaves...

[@jamiezakharia9646]

the cavaliers management is terrible. did you expect him to stay on the team so he could lose and then you can crucify him for not winning the championship? and the only real team last year was the celtics and maybe you might say the 76ers too the east got significantly better after lebron left (raptors get kawhi, 76ers get butler, celtics get kyrie and hayward back)

[@sandernista6499]

@@jamiezakharia9646 Im a lebron fan, im being sarcastic 😂

[@jamiezakharia9646]

@@sandernista6499 oh damn lmao my bad

[@MrThwippy]

Don't act like the West still ain't better

[@sandernista6499]

@@MrThwippy it isnt... im taking the bucks, raptors, celtics over any team after the warriors. The rockets are garbage, the nuggets and spurs cant compete and the thunder always choke in the playoffs.

[@jayzee7538]

The East in Jordan's era was freakin loaded. Actually the whole NBA was loaded. Both the East and West each had like 4-5 Championship caliber teams (obviously with MJ around none of them won it all). Look at the 96 Bulls Playoff bracket (72-10 Bulls). They played Zo and Hardaway Miami Heat Rd 1. They were 42-40 only because they didn't acquire Hardaway until trade deadline. With Hardaway they were at the rating of a 60+ win team. ECSF they played 47-35 Knicks with legend Ewing and a gritty hard nose experienced team that made 94 Finals. Don Nelson's stupid "all offense no Defense" ball screwed them up. Van Gundy took over as coach in March and under Van Gundy they too played at a 60+ win rating. ECF played Shaq and Penny 60-22 Orlando Magic. NBA Finals played a 64-18 Sonics team that had Prime Kemp, Prime GP, Detlef Schrempf, Big Smooth, and a great defensive team. Same Sonics who beat Hakeem Rockets in a sweep and the Malone and Stockton Utah Jazz. 1995-96 Chicago Bulls go 72-10 then 15-3 in the playoffs playing basically all 60+ win teams in the Playoffs. That will never happen again. #LEGENDARY. #199596CHICAGOBULLSGREATESTTEAMEVER4EVER

[@vanguardas9927]

and people talk about how good the 73-9 warriros are lol aside from the Cavs, no other team comes close to beating them while the 96 Bulls had rougher competition and still won the championship in 6.

[@AsavageEP]

The opposite is true. The 90's were one of the most talent diluted eras in all of basketball. Six teams were added in a six year span from 89 to 94 which created a league wide talent drain. It was an incredibly weak era for basketball.

[@jayzee7538]

@@AsavageEP wrong.

[@AsavageEP]

@@jayzee7538 HA HA HA A blog from a random fan...nice. I like how he argues against himself. He points out that KJ missed 33 games in 93 and the Suns STILL won 62...that's how bad the league was... The dearth of talent in the 90's was pretty bad. Nearly 25% of the league wouldn't have had roster spots in any other decade. That's the byproduct of rapid expansion.

[@AsavageEP]

@Harry Engel The present. The talent league wide right now is at an all time high. It exceeds the era ten years ago which was the best, surpassing the era a few years before that. Like with every other sport, the NBA talent level improves moving forward, etc. NFLE players are infinitely better than their counterparts back in the 70's and MLB players today would dominate Babe Ruth and his era. I think there is one exception though: I think the talent level in the NBA in the 80's was higher than in the 90's and this is only because the 90's were a BIZARRE period for the league. 1. The "Too much/Too soon" era of the 1980/early 90's decimated a ton of young players in the NBA. Players like Len Bias. Roy Tarpley, Chris Washburm Derrick Coleman, Kenny Anderson, Danny Manning, et al.were all washed out for a variety of reasons. It really is a bizarre period of bad choices, terrible work ethic, and rotten luck. 2. This was only heightened by rapid expansion which thinned out thinned out the talent pool horrifically. Growing the league by 25% over 6 years is kinda crazy. So you have a bunch of young guys failing to rise and now nearly 100 more roster spots to fill. 3. The league was at a strategic malaise, likely due to the talent drain. The 1980's REALLY put the NBA into the cultural zeitgeist. Bird and Magic blew up the sport in an unexpected way. but the game itself had remain relatively unchanged for decades with only the talent level improving decade by decade. The 1980's saw the introduction of the three point line. It was essentially an ABA novelty and under utilized if not completely ignored.But basketball was still awesome and beautiful to watch because the players were better than they's ever been before. By the 90...yeah... the sport was awful. There were some fun players and great rivalries. but the quality of play was killed by a drained talent pool and more importantly: THE LAUGUE WIDE IDIOCY THAT STILL HADN'T EMBRACED THE 3 POINT LINE. This made tactical basketball of the 90's essentially iso heavy sequences. Essentially most offensive possessions devolved into 3 guys filling the court on one side ... You no what...ha ha ha. I'm digressing. The tactical stupidity of the 90's isn't actually talent related. Anyways. I think the 90's were actually worse than the 80's due to the loss of badasses like Magic, Bird, etc. and the failure of essentially Jordan's generation to fulfill their promise. Seriously though. The 1986-91 drafts are...interesting. Anyway by the early 2000's the talent pool had caught up to league wide demand and the influx of international players was starting to impact the league as well. Still not embracing the 3 completely yet, but at least strides were being made...

[@LEGIONOFKNICKSPODCAST]

Jordan said that if he didnt play the knicks in the playoffs, then the playoff run that his team had didnt feel complete. The 90s basketball era was fun man. Whew. Ya youngins dont know

[@condorgaming4000]

What's so fun about 1 team winning the championship 6 out of 10 years

[@arsalanrahmati7034]

bulls winning 6 champion ships in to years is just as boring as gsw winiing 3 in 5

[@mudfreaks6962]

@@condorgaming4000 Despite Bull's dominance, the games were fierce battles.

[@timothylau8192]

Can we all just face the fact that Jordan played in the toughest ERA in the League where by a quote, unquote Hard Foul in the 80's & 90's is consider as a Fragrant 2 in the LeBron ERA. So a team can send relatively 3-5 bench warmers out there every game to throw body slam at Micheal Jordan and not get suspended at all. But no one can touch LeBron. He will never survive the Jordan ERA. In fact none of the annual top 10 stars since 2010's could. Oh less not forget injuries. You are expected to play through them in the 80's & 90's. No one want to hear some $150,000 pay cheque player sitting for a toe injury. Now, we have so call All-Stars earning 40+ $$$millions$$$ sitting with a tow injury. Go figure.

[@lainiwakura4678]

All EC benches back then had 2-3 guys that were basically like hockey enforcers. They'd come in to give you 6 hard fouls a piece and make the game dirty. Try to slide that foot under you when you go up for a jump shot...

[@saulcuello9622]

Great vid. A lot of great points. And you put things into perspective. Giving honor to Jordan's competition. Pointing out NBA rules or lack there of , that made the league tougher..... The Knicks ... Wow taking teams to game 7!!! A reminder that this is a team sport! And How Jordan had to change that nasty attitude he had in the 80's

[@brentyap1920]

MJ's era in the 80s and 90s had more player in the Top 200 HOF all time and MJ bested all of them. Lebron will never have the legacy that MJ had. MJ was simply the GOAT among men

[@cbm3]

This video reminded me of how much I miss the old Knicks Heat rivalry

[@darnellharris2886]

Way tougher than the competition than lebum had to go through in today's weak east smh MJ beat the best

[@newnamek96]

The east became weak when lebron joined the heat. Wade abd bosh were competition prior, the Celtics aged out, and the pacers fell apart after the paul george injury....the pistons aged out so i would say the east was pretty good until lebron returned to the cavs in 2015

[@kjstyles3530]

Sterling Mitchell exactly and the spurs were old to even tho they beat the heat

[@jex041489]

Sterling Mitchell well said! But in his return to Cavs in 2015, the only competitor as a championship team they would face and defeat was Biston Celtics. We all know how a choker Toronto was. The 76ers and Bucks were a championship team just right about when Lebron left the Cavs again.

[@kjstyles3530]

jex041489 exactly Lebron never really had no competition until he play the warriors that’s it

[@carlpatrickragas2159]

I am not a LeBron fan but there were teams they are considered great teams. The Celtics trio, the Bulls with Rose, Deng and Noah and the Pacers with George, West and Hill. But the only team that can be aligned on the great 90's team was the Celtics one. Still, it was the West by this time that has the greatest team in warriors, spurs, okc and Dallas (way more but these were the only one who contend frequently)

[@aristotleyalung8033]

it was scary. despite being a Bulls fan that believe the Bulls are the greatest of that era of basketball and seem unstoppable, I was always wary and scared whenever they faced the Knicks and Magic. those two teams practically matched the Bulls roster man to man except for not having anyone to compare with MJ but still scares me of them losing to them. that's how tough the east was.

[@gpproductionz]

Ppl forget how great Shaq and Penny was together

[@allanhouston6759]

1995/1996 Orlando Magic: Shaquille O"Neal - Top 2 in the MVP vote ( 1995 ), Scoring champion ( 1995 ). Penny Hardaway - Top 3 in the MVP vote ( 1996 ). Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson, Horace Grant. This team would be the best in the East in the modern league.

[@dametime128]

The 1980’s and 1990’s were a much tougher era. Defense was better and teams were better. The 1990’s had the most teams that won 50 or 60 games in NBA history for a decade. Despite that, Jordan’s Bulls defeated seven 60+ win teams (a record for a dynasty team in a decade) and 20 teams that had between 50-59 wins. 27 of the 37 playoff opponents Jordan faced had over 50 wins, while 18 of LeBron’s opponents (out of 37) had under 50 wins. Imagine what Jordan’s numbers would be if he faced LeBron’s competition. Jordan was guarded by Defensive Player of Year players in the playoffs several times - Sidney Moncrief, Alvin Robertson, Dennis Rodman and Gary Payton. (Rodman four times)

[@hamzaelhousseiny9553]

Just shows that getting 50 win ain’t as easy anymore

[@rajveerkaur634]

Funny you say Jordan=SG RODMAN=C LUL

[@princexmilano]

90s was weak dog sorry a bunch undersized guards and weak perimeter players ... The bigs were good but that era was weak

[@princexmilano]

90s was weak dog sorry a bunch undersized guards and weak perimeter players ... The bigs were good but that era was weak

[@princexmilano]

@Shawn Kemp i habe to disagree. Outside of jordan era was weak 80s and 00's was better

[@GaryTurbo]

Best East teams during the 1990s: Hawks Knicks Pacers Hornets Cavaliers 76ers Magic (Until Shaq left)

[@kreykelly]

Andy talked about the Hawks and Hornets for like 10 seconds lol

[@migzaquino1016]

What about Miami Heat with alonzo mourning and Tim hardaway?

[@ioannisdelizannis9398]

And bucks

[@atlaslion5128]

76ers were not that good.

[@irakliberelidze1245]

Jazz?

[@joesotoneuromonitoring6123]

An era full of basketball gods!

[@AGHathaway]

And bums.

[@archietaylor3627]

THIS VIDEO WAS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT 💯💯💯💯

[@Jayballinallday]

LeBron is overrated and gave up in the finals. And always got it easy.

[@Sin-tc4mi]

total bs

[@shanedrayton7662]

Facts

[@Samurai31631]

Gave up in the finals? Being down vs the spurs game 6 with little time left. You must have forgotten. Got it easy? He beat a thunder team with Durant, Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka all there. He beat the Spurs. He beat a 73 win team. It’s ok to believe that MJ was better, but don’t go around being a hater. I hated MJ when he would play, but I’m not so stupid as to think that anyone else is the GOAT. MJ was the best to ever do it...

[@ImFaiis]

Yeah Warriors were very easy lmao fuck outta here kiddo

[@ImFaiis]

Literally LeBron had the best stats in every single finals he played, he never had the support michael has like a 55 win team without him, and a shaq like Kobe

[@Mark-Anthony601]

Glad to see someone realizes that Jordan and the Bulls did not have an easy run especially compared to today's Eastern conference

[@macey7600]

marksdad10 easy finals

[@LegendOfKhaos12]

Malone and Stockton Jazz. Barkley suns. Clyde blazers. Magic Lakers. Pretty good teams.

[@LegendOfKhaos12]

Shawn Kemp Gary Payton Sonics.

[@macey7600]

@jocriss call me an idiot after spelling noob wrong, deleting it and retyping your comment hahahah.....L

[@macey7600]

Kenneth Erickson 9 days younger ...damn life not been kind to you huh

[@kal-el1827]

Imagine if LeBron said all of those things that Jordan said about his teammates being stupid and trash, he’d be crucified by everyone

[@elayhammer8032]

LeBron wanted a playmaker in 2017 people WERE going crazy about that saying he's a bad teammate lol

[@benjaminaarts]

LeBron doesnt have the balls to say it in their face. That is the problem. He just says something to the media and everyone else is left trying to understand what he is trying to comunicate to his teammates.

[@JoeBro915]

Everyone knows Jordan is an asshole, lebron displays a family man type image

[@terrenceperkins5282]

J. so

[@marthacortez9726]

People have gotten soft over the years

[@juniorambriz5380]

He didn’t say Penny Hardaway, so disrespectful lol

[@kingramseys6102]

💯

[@rjordist4925]

because of oneal. lol

[@gokuballer1683]

Number of 60+ win team MJ, Kobe, and Lebron faced enroute to a championship: MJ - 7 (93 Knicks and Suns, 96 Magic and Sonics, 97 Heat and Jazz, 98 Jazz) Kobe - 1 (2002 Kings*) Lebron - 1 (73-9 Warriors)

[@305CHICOXL]

Haha. Good one. This is an exclamation point

[@305CHICOXL]

You would have an argument if it wasn't such a difference, but 7 to 1? You can make that point for a couple of years but not consistently over the span of a career. At the very least if the west was stacked then maybe you get a eastern champion with a great record..... unfortunately that was not the case for any of his 5 championships. So no sorry,try again.

[@cameronsmith9314]

Is this our argument???

[@boricuafrican1]

@Shay Butta , Record vs 50-win playoff teams .... Jordan 20-7 , Kobe 25-10, Lebron 15-9 (including the only victory over a 70-win team)

[@rgonzalez0762]

Yes indeed

[@LatisARG]

also just to mention the gameplay was tougher and hard. Now is soft and boring

[@jovanbelegisanin289]

Yes, and teams typically had one and a half guy in the starting lineup who could consistently hit 3's. While game nowadays does sometimes look too soft, the sheer difficulty of playing defense today is uncomparable to the 90's.

[@pacificislanderbisrock]

LatisARG the games today is like a European brand of basketball, less body contact

[@shauncameron8390]

You can thank all the rule changes in the 1990's and 2000's for that.

[@adamk5672]

It’s not boring but it’s a lot more of lazy defense

[@marlonnicholson8410]

"This is the NBA ON NBC"

[@robertgray320]

As a kid growing up watching basketball in the 80's and 90's, this is the most accurate video ive ever seen. It's 1000% spot on and completely unbiased! The league was hard, tough and trash talk all day. Lebrons time in the east was a cake walk, thats why the comparison to Jordan is utterly asinine. People who even try to compare the 2 know nothing about basketball or are too young to ever watch Jordan or just extremely ignorant. Those are just facts.

[@macey7600]

Robert Gray give Lebron pippen and rodman and not play against 5 allstarrs and watch him go 6-0 lmao. The argument for west/ east is bs. You can say bron had it easy but then you can also say mike had it easy in the finals as he faced a weaker side in the West

[@macey7600]

Robert Gray people talk 6-0 like that’s all Jordan played for lol

[@macey7600]

When Jordan got there the bulls won because they had the better team, struggling to see bron have the better team in the finals tbh and Lebron is also the only player to be in the top 10 for points and assists, so if we are comparing single players and not ‘teams’ bron shits on Jordan

[@josephdelgiudice4123]

The 90s were a watered down expansion era lmao inflated win totals for these teams due to beating up on expansion teams. Any team in today's game would run a team in the 90s off the court not close.

[@meowarfmoo]

@@josephdelgiudice4123 on 90's rule where you can do full court defense come playoff time? please these fools wouldnt be able to chuck 3 pt shots like right now. try shooting 3s when defenders are humping your ass or shoving your hips handchecking. DEFENSE NOW IS TRASH!

[@nastynas7]

And people say that MJ had weak opponents back than, back than the game was more physical

[@vt248]

Better than its been this whole millenium

[@omardagoon2505]

When you’re so goated you have an era named after you 🐐🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Anonymous8693]

People are misunderstanding the weak conference argument. It's not that LeBron is being blamed for going against weaker teams. Rather, when the amount of times someone reaches the finals is one his biggest arguments for "GOAT, then it's fair (and necessary) to contextualize it.

[@BeefPapa]

Thank you.

[@TekkLuthor]

And the context is that Jordan never went to a game 7 and is 6 for 6 in the finals. None of them can be disputed. Nobody can tell Jordan, "Ray Allen saved your career"

[@tottot000]

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[@TheNamesDitto]

@@TekkLuthor but they can say that you quit on basketball, lost in the first round multiple times and only made in your early years because of how bad the East was (other than the Celtics and Pistons). Lots of context things.

[@888job]

Well yes but then u have to add chemistry coaching teammates and the illegal D whcih made it impossible to stop any1 plus the skil gap between now and then and Jordan played in an era where players where physical but not s talented

[@agoogleuser6139]

Badboys,Celtic,Bulls,Knicks,Bucks,Sixers,Cavs,Magic,Heat,Indiana, E W Lakers,sonics,jazz,nuggets,suns,blazers,Rockets Nba was competitive back in 80's,90's,00s Each team has Allstar players, With talents,Playing D,. Physical . Today ,Nba is a joke

[@joemagwood6096]

Those teams was like murder row Lebron couldn't deal with that.

[@relaxstaycalm1906]

Yea, even the greatest shooting PG always chokes in the finals.

[@ernestbrown2687]

Don't forget that's when Charlotte hornets was good& now worst at the hands of Jordan!

[@derickhenderson8655]

The 90's east would love the game now!! Hell each would have 7 ring they selfs.

[@valiantthor8268]

I don't get why people would compare MJ and LBJ, they are just two totally different players playing in two different eras. It is not even the same sport anymore, defense is non-existent nowadays, offense is barely one screen and off you go dunk it or shoot a 3 pointer (since no one cares to defend on you anyway). Lebron James is undoubtedly an exceptional athlete but you can't compare him to MJ and his impact. The guy just reinvented and reinvigorated the game all by himself (and NBA marketing). Just look at the two of them moving on the court. Grace and brute force/beauty and the beast. There is just no comparison. Jordan was a worldwide phenomenon and made the NBA a worldwide phenomenon. Nobody knows Lebron James outside of the US if you're not slightly interested in sports. Hard to tell which competion was harder. But MJ's career story is soooo much better. He is the epitomy of the American hero. Lebron? Just a mercenary. Changing team every three years to see where the grass is greener. Always will be second class.

[@hectormorrobel9326]

Great comment! I agree 100%

[@donnadunbar5342]

Mj comp was harder mj had way less help than bron n mj is way better than lebron

[@DrPale01]

Absolutely correct

[@Samurai31631]

Donna Dunbar MJ had a way better team than Bron. MJ had Pippen, Rodman, Kerr, Harper, Tony, Luc (Grant at one point), and a “great” coach. Please tell me who Bron had. Wade in Miami, Irvin in Cleveland. Did I forget someone?

[@shanedrayton7662]

Couldn’t have said better 💪🏿

[@johntodd6055]

There were teams in the East during the 90’s that the big 3 in Miami with LeBron wouldn’t have gotten past the second round against

[@jasondyrkacz8270]

Those Knicks teams weren't pushovers.

[@FireAngelChris]

Lol

[@alexescutia4805]

You’re delusional

[@allanhouston6759]

@@alexescutia4805 2012 ECF: Post-injuries Kevin Garnett ( age 36 ), Ray Allen ( age 36 ), Paul Pierce ( age 34 ), Rondo. Still needed 7 games to beat the Celtics. *Even Andre Iguodala was able to win 3 games against the Celtics in the 2012 ECSF.* And he didn"t have a teammate like D Wade.

[@alexescutia4805]

@@allanhouston6759 what were the eastern conference teams lebron and the big 3 wouldn’t have got past?

[@pauljordan6615]

The 90s East < The 80s East) By far.

[@allanhouston6759]

90s >>>>> 80s.

[@geraldos9094]

MJ didn’t beat the Pistons and Celtics in their prime, he beat them when they got old.

[@freebandgeneral4568]

Geraldo S Pistons was just coming off championships when he beat them man lol

[@theguy9150]

When he got a good team of role players doing their thing, Jordan was unbeatable.

[@orlandomagic5750]

during jordan era theres no such thing as big3, superstars are equally devided to all the teams so mostly teams are equal in terms of strength

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

true!

[@weynnerguillen9533]

The East was waaay stronger during MJ's Time

[@ritvikdutta4824]

A point no one raises is that later in Jordan's career there were many expansion teams. The Jazz won 60+ games in the late 90s while the team in the early 90s was much better. Keep that in your mind when you just spew out the number of 60 win teams they won.

[@naaatre]

And there goes LeBron fans argument

[@ono3869]

Cleveland was probably the most underrated team in the late 80s - early 90s.

[@Robin_Hood381]

The only legitimate challenges for Lebron in the east from 2007 - 2018 were the Detroit Pistons and the Celtics and they were both aging teams from their former glory.

[@sugu8403]

Interesting how you conveniently left out: Orlando (prime Dwight, Rashard Lewis, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson, JJ Reddick) Atlanta (Joe Johnson, Al Horford, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Jeff Teague) Chicago (D-Rose, Noah, Deng, Boozer, Taj Gibson, Kyle Korver) Indiana (Paul George, David West, Roy Hibbert, Lance Stevenson, George Hill, Danny Granger).

[@Big_3000]

@@sugu8403 we mean teams that could actually contend with the counterpart western champions. Yeah maybe the Magic could somewhat contend with the Lakers, but not sure if the D-Rose lead Bulls could’ve beat the Mavs. Not so sure the PG/David West lead pacers could beat the Spurs or even force 7. Atlanta wouldn’t stand a chance vs Golden State in my opinion despite beating them in the regular season.

[@sugu8403]

@@Big_3000 That’s a lot of woulda coulda talk though, you can’t really make a comment like that unless it happened, if you’re a fan of the NBA you should know anything can happen.

[@patrickmartin2689]

3:36 Larry Bird breaking ankles...😁😁😁

[@springcity2008]

Back then, Eastern conference was actually a better conference when MJ was playing

[@brianrochelle688]

I don’t think that there was a huge difference between the eastern conference and the western conference back in the 90’s the western conference had Houston Rockets Los Angeles Lakers Utah Jazz Phoenix Suns Portland Trailblazers The eastern conference had Chicago Bulls New York Knicks Boston Celtics Indiana Pacers Detroit Pistons Atlanta Hawks The eastern conference might have been a little deeper than the western conference but the entire NBA was just full of much more talented players than any other era of basketball.

[@springcity2008]

@@brianrochelle688 during the Jordan era I believe the eastern conference had won the consecutive all star games for many years

[@kingjames1139]

This is exactly what I've been saying people keep saying oh Jordan didn't play any competition in the finals but forget about the path to get there

[@tonybrowner6993]

Michael over LeBron confirmed

[@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937]

If I want to see a ballhug play one-on-one with no zone or smart defensive schemes dunking on unathletic farmers, I will take Jordan too.

[@ALIBIGPP69]

@@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937 Just accept Jordan's better get over it.

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937 nah jordan better and 90s is better than todays nba stop it

[@federalfreemoneylackofrese9937]

@@dxtremecaliber Most superstars today will eat 90s players. Jordan is nothing but a marketing scheme to me. He played against zero super team in the 90s and let's not even talk about the 6 new teams they added in the east that were struggling to compete. Talent was also diluted, that's why you barely here about a superteam in that era. This era is so talented it makes defense look poor. If you don't have at least two superstars, you won't dominate. Might win a year, but that's it because you could face the nets, the lakers, the spurs, the big 3 of boston etc...

[@chrisryan8923]

I need to show this video to a co-worker who is biased against Jordan no matter what. Always saying East was weak, that's why Bulls always won. I just laugh at dummies.

[@carlpatrickragas2159]

That's kinda hard to explain for close minded 🤣

[@AsavageEP]

Your friend was right. It wasn't just the east though. The league was pretty watered down from rapid expansion.

[@dxtremecaliber]

@@AsavageEP nah

[@AsavageEP]

@@dxtremecaliber Yup! 6 new teams in 4 years. That's 75+ extra players in the league. Can you imagine having to go 7 games in a series against a team whose second best player was John Starks?!? Lulz...

[@tj5180]

@@AsavageEP that Knicks team was elite and John starks wasnt bad. That's the same team that had bernard king so could have imagined. Expansion teams had nothing to do with NBA being watered down. They still had elite teams like heat also magic even the Hornets who were deep with talent and made the semi finals in 1997

[@joshuagutierrez7371]

You really did your homework. I appreciate the hard work😁

[@nastynas7]

If MJ was to play in today’s era, he’s averaging 50. He’s gonna adapt to the three, he’s gonna fouled everyone he dunks, and hand checking isn’t allowed anymore. But also nobody would be able to keep up with him that much and he would have good players around him

[@djstillnice5075]

Great video Andy. I just want to add one more important thing. When MJ came back to the league in the 94-95 season, the Bulls were actually 31-34. Soooooo MJ came back with just 17 games left in the regular season. Oh by the way, He helped them go 13-4 in that stretch...helping them get to the playoffs. Imagine that...hadn’t played all year...poor conditioning...playing in a tough Eastern Conference...smdh AMAZING. Oh yeah...Pippen and Horace Grant joined the team in 87...there’s a false narrative out there that these guys had an instant impact in the Bulls’ success. That’s not true, however they were able to finally defeat the Pistons in that 90’ season. And Noooo the Pistons were not OLD. They were just trying to 3peat (which is a difficult task).

[@vitomania04]

I still miss the 90s. Thanks for this great analysis.

[@timmanson8699]

I agree, am a blazers fan but always a bridesmaid. Jordan v james not even close. Jordan pulls away early.

[@solefoodbrand1699]

Your comment about the West in the 80s is accurate.

[@justinpeterson3686]

You try taking to the rim in the East in the 80's and 90's and you would have hit the floor.

[@gianadavis-cainblm4806]

Thats why you shoot 3s

[@futuregohan4837]

Unless You're Undertaker Who Can Bulldoze His Way

[@peteramarillo8952]

you left out of the ATLANTA HAWKS of the 1980s!!!!!!!!!!!!! they were called basketball's AIRFORCE. they were a super dunking team with dominque wilkens and kevin Willis. ...willis was the fastest 7 footer in sports

[@eog5217]

East was always better than the west until the 2000s it all started with shaq leaving Orlando

[@MC-ej4to]

Umm and Dirk Nash

[@LeaperChad7]

Uh...no

[@shauncameron8390]

No. It started with Barkley getting traded to Phoenix. Then Shaq signing with the Lakers. Kobe getting traded to the Lakers on draft night. Ditto for Dirk Nowitzki to Dallas. It all came to fruition when Jordan retired the 2nd time, and in 1999 the NBA became a free-for-all with the West winning out.

[@MC-ej4to]

Fact is Jordan won Titles in the Eastern conference. When he went to play basketball, the west won both of those titles one by a sweep. No other Eastern conference team won a title in the 90's. 6 for the Bulls 2 Lakers 2 Houston. Fact is the East has been weak for a long time. The reason is the NBA has rigged the East to be bad unintentionally. There are teams in the Eastern conference that I've had losing records that make the playoffs. And then there are teams that have won 50 games in the Western conference and not made the playoffs. But those teams got lottery picks making them better and a stronger conference. fact is if the NBA wants to put out a better product they would in the east and west and just play all the teams against each other and the best 16 teams get to the playoffs it would create a better product across the board because teams that did not make the playoffs do to a losing record would get lottery players and not teams won 50 games

[@MC-ej4to]

Baseball**

[@letuhieuthien]

Bird and Zeke owned the East in the 80s. Once they passed their prime, it became MJ's conference

[@johnyb9519]

Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe BULLSHIT. Zeke was 29 when Jordan swept his ass. Magic was 31 when Jordan beat him in the Finals. Duncan and Ginobili and Parker where a combined 230 years old when they gave Lebrun the asswhooping of his life. Dirk was 33 when he fucked him up good. Oh, and Jordan was 32-35 leading a Bulls geriatrics line up to a three peat.

[@SwaggerLikeUz]

Bulls in 96'-98' Bulls won 3 straight tho. Guess what? They were the oldest team in the NBA, period. Jordan was 35 in 1998', but nobody remembers that fact. MJ won Mvp, All Star Mvp, & Final Mvp. No excuses for Zeke, & Bird. If your team falls off its your obligation to get back to the apex of the NBA. Frankly, Jordan wasn't drafted to a contender, nor did He have the luxury of multiple all stars like Pistons, Celtics, & Lakers. He still got 6 rings! More than Magic, Bird, & Zeke. Just saying Le Tu Hieu Thien.

[@aragornn23]

Another millennial who pretends to know basketball and the situations in the years he wasnt even born. LOL

[@mrsilkysmoothd]

Huh ??? Stop 🛑 it Zelle was 2 years older than Jordan and still in his prime when the bulls swept the pistons!!!!

[@mylenepuno8564]

1990s best team Jazz Knicks Supersonics Cavaliers Lakers Bulls Boston Pistons

[@stevieray7829]

When Jordan played. They called the east “The beast in the east”

[@MegaGoozie]

You CANT compare players who played during hand checking to those who didn’t.

[@lilzae4848]

He struggled early on because Chicago was a joke they was a football, baseball, and hockey honestly MJ helped Chicago Bulls too even compete with already established franchise with legends that why MJ the GOAT he played with nobody for 4 years before he got Scottie them legends and them great organizations push MJ. In honesty if it where know MJ it wouldn't be know Bulls they would of sold the team back then..

[@ADAJ3KINGANGEL]

I like Stacey King was "Too Big, Too Strong, Too Fast, & Too Good!" I didn't know he was a "Powerless Forward."

[@lolhahah21]

I LOVE Michael Jordan. But I feel bad that he said that about Stacey King. I hope they are good and don't take it personally.

[@futuregohan4837]

@@lolhahah21 I Think Jordan Meant Undertaker LOL Jordan The Grim Reaper Doesn't Forgive Sinners Like You

[@darkmumbles]

All of you lebron lovers need to watch this and realize why the G.O.A.T. debate should've never been a debate!!

[@jenniferbell6346]

Oh I think there should be a debate but Lebron shouldn't be part of it

[@karsten3780]

You’re right. It’s childish to argue one player is better than the other. It’s simply impossible to accurately compare two players, no matter the sport.

[@marvinhagler4721]

VERY GOOD....the EAST played Hard tough bball..You had to come to play..NOTHING was easy

[@JoeCnNd]

Pacers are the kings of overlooked.

[@juanio7036]

Can you imagine lebron having to go thru the bad boy pistons and Celtics. The bad boy would have broke him mentally.

[@rgonzalez0762]

Oh god!! Yes...i agree whole heartedly

[@brotherLee340]

Just like they Broke Jordan lol.

[@G4MBIT]

Bird would've broken Bron down mentally

[@papito5ft6]

Pistons and Celtics destroyed...Lebron lost to dynasties with exception to the Mavs (same team that swept Kobe in the wcf) stop acting like MJ owned the playoffs pre pippen or pre nba expansion..

[@josephdelgiudice4123]

Dushan Fernando any all star caliber player in today's game would be a Hall of famer back then 80s were the worst defensive era statistically and the 90s was a watered down expansion era lmao plus LeBron weighs 30 pounds more than any of the overrated "bad boy pistons"

[@marvinhagler4721]

Todays east could not TOUCH..the BIG EAST..of NBA back in the REAL ....days

[@AAL.]

when lebron played for the heat the main competition in the east was the celtics, pacers, bulls

[@m.A.A.dGanja420]

Exactly. An aging Celtics teams, a Chicago team who was carried by D. Rose, and a very young Pacers Squad. Hence the reason LeBron is criticized for having weak competition. It's because he did. East was ass for a lot of his runs to the Finals.

[@AhTalk0]

Lmao the pacers were lead by PG and Hibbert against a stacked Miami team. The Bulls were really young and they’re best players were Joakim and Drose. Celtics were not only mismatched they were getting old.

[@AAL.]

@@AhTalk0 ik but those are the teams who really gave the heat any trouble

[@rajveerkaur634]

Hawks Knicks Bulls Celts Pacers

[@m.A.A.dGanja420]

@G-man The Celtics won one title, ONE, not titles. The Bulls team was a bunch of scrubs, FOH. That franchise would've been doo-doo w/o Rose. That "stacked" Pacers team had PG, Hibbert, who was inconsistent and unreliable if you actually watched those series, and I honestly can't even remember who else was on that team. Guess they weren't very memorable. The Hawks, honestly I forgot about them. They were pretty good. Not as good as Jordan's adversaries. The Raptors are better now than they ever were during Bron's time in the East. You wanna try again?

[@raviolihands5347]

98 pacers was THIS CLOSE to stopping that dam 3 peat smh mj played poorly by his standards for a game 7

[@lukelucky1311]

Yo I was so worried after game 6. Man Jordan in the post game interview gave em credit. Then he was asked bout game 7 to which he replied Pff we are winning game 7 I was relaxed then

[@seanfelder3286]

Yeah but Jordan will Chicago Bulls to game 7 victory.he has Scottie and supporting cast bail him out

[@Tolstoy111]

I think that series signaled to management that the team had reached the end of the line. They won the title that year by sheer force of will.

[@cwj_721]

um why did this dude leave out the 90s jazz??

[@jiggagrave6861]

Short answer . A lot better than the east during Brons Era

[@jkbezo1]

" Joe Smith The East was the stronger overall conference in the 1990s. Very good teams like the Knicks, Pacers, Cavs, Hornets, Hawks, Magic, couldnt get over the hump. MJ/Bulls were normally in their way. During that decade. The Heat were coming around, too during the latter part of the '90s. Occasionally the Nets & Wizards/Bullets during that decade too. The great teams of the 1980s in the East had gotten old and started to rebuild by the '90s (Bucks, 76ers, Celtics, Pistons). These teams used to ruff up the Bulls/MJ during the '80s in the playoffs, too Many teams in the East in the '90s were left out of the playoffs with winning seasons (Cavs, Wizards, Hornets) , while teams in the West with losings seasons like the Clippers, TWolves, Kings, Lakers, Suns) were getting in the playoffs during that decade. But, by the late '90s -mid '00s Those Western teams were maturing (Kings, Lakers, TWolves) were very good, multiple winning seasons, playoffs, elite. Since the 2000s, its been the other way around (West teams with winning seasons missing the playoffs while the East teams with losing seasons are in the playoffs), also the stronger overall conference since 2000 has been the West. '00s and '10s. It was like right after MJ retired, the whole entire East just became crappy overall for the years. Pretty odd. MJ/Bulls had to beat some very good, tuff teams. The '80s you can argue that the East was tuffer as well (Celtics, 76ers, Hawks, Bucks, Pistons, Bulls (Same as the Cavs) later in teh decade, 76ers). While the West was very top heavy (Lakers.......and the Rockets..... Nuggets, Jazz, Suns, Blazers were playoff chokers, same for the Spurs (when they made the playoffs, but they had multiple losing seasons, no playoffs.... pretty much their lone dark period mid - late '80s....post Iceman & Gilmore yrs) It was pretty much either teh Lakers or Rockets in teh '80s for the West. This is a very good video. So many memories, too!" Agreed.

[@bryanttisdale2446]

The Jordan era had a few tragedies in it. The deaths of len bias a huge college Jordan rival. (Think young lebron with a outside shot). The death of Reggie Lewis a player that held Jordan avg down below avg when they played. And avg 20 pts. Petrovic who scored 50 against Jordan. All these deaths had a huge impact on the era. The Celtics would be were a shell of themselves in the 90's. Penny Hardaway injury just 2 rys after putting the bulls out of the playoffs. Early Jordan he just ran into great teams he couldn't beat . Late Jordan a few weaker teams. Made a difference. Never would he play a team as strong again as 80's Celtics or a team with 3 or more allstars like 2000's spurs or warriors.

[@momoneylessproblems9183]

I fucking hate it when people say Jordan needed help to get to the Finals and win. Yeah no shit. Basketball is a team game. Literally every great player had a good supporting cast. It doesn't make them any less great. Jordan had Pippen and Rodman. Magic had Kareem and James Worthy. Bird had McHale and Robert Parish. Shaq had Kobe and Kobe had Shaq. KG had Allen and Pierce. Duncan had Parker and Ginobili. Malone had Stockton. LeBron had Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh... And Allen... And then Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. You get my point. And any player who ever made it to the Finals with no supporting cast (I'm looking at you LeBron) only did so due to the fact that they played against absolute garbage teams to get there. The teams that James played in 2007 barely cracked 50 wins. It was sad how pathetically bad the Eastern Conference was at that time. In Jordan's case though he didn't just get bounced early in his career by some dogshit no name teams. He was beaten twice by Larry Bird's Boston Celtics and three times by the Bad Boy Pistons. Two of arguably the greatest teams of all time.

[@Vonweakass]

Bilbo Swaggins Lebron beat the pistons... the team who beat Kobe Bryant in the finals 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️ what are you saying

[@MarkoRabin]

Shaq had Kobe, Kobe had Gasol (HOF for sure)

[@allaccordingtoplan5560]

dtfthebeast bronsexual alert 🚨

[@felixmartinez9673]

@@Vonweakass that team that Lebron beat, doesn't have Ben Wallace, a beast in defense, and his coach Larry Brown

[@drphot6050]

No love for the Bullets!

[@Omnigodz78]

Absolutely right. Only Katz probably who saying "no it wasnt", is Snotty nose youngsters who were probably never born or still in Pampers. I have seen bad boy,LA and the 76ers generation all the why up until now...I must say it a soft ass league today..the only thing that enhance the game today, is "near 7footers" dribbling and shooting 3s.

[@anueltoothache1385]

BEST NBA ERA EVER !💪🏽

[@joesmith8725]

Things go in cycles. The last time a Western Conference team with a losing season went to the playoffs, 1997. Clippers. The West had several teams that decade 1990s to go into the playoffs with losing seasons. Lakers, Twolves, Suns, Clippers, Kings, etc The teams in East in the 1990s that missed the playoffs with winning seasons. Hornets, Magic, Cavs, Wizards/Bullets, etc Since 2000. Only 2 Eastern Conference teams have missed the playoffs with winning seasons. 2005 Cavaliers and the 2016 Bulls. That's it! The West has had multiple teams in the last 2 decades that have missed the playoffs with winning seasons. Too many to name, since it has happened about every year, sometimes 2 in the same season. The East has had multiple teams with losing seasons in the past 2 decades. Too many to name since its happened just about every season. Sometimes 2 in the same season! Oevrall the East was the stronger conference during the '80s and '90s. While the West was the stronger overall conference the last 2 decades.

[@jesuslover1988]

And people saying that Jordan's competition was softer than Lebron's. Smh.

[@johnbhughes3419]

You forgot the pistons team that Jordan beat to geat to his first championship.