How GREEDY AAA Devs are

[@matiasjauhojarvi9551]

Before it was regular game, limited edition and collector's edition.

[@MarksterC]

But those editions didn’t typically provide any extra content only available in those editions

[@Thelongestshrimp]

​@@MarksterCexactly.

[@galinmeric2149]

​​@@MarksterC but you usually got something PHYSICAL, what could have actual value, what is 100x better then a random skin

[@jimbolearner8040]

And then they'd give a metal case little collectables and big ass replicas of shit from the game

[@matiasjauhojarvi9551]

@@galinmeric2149 Thats why i will always like more limited or collector's edition instead of deluxe edition were you only get skins and in game currency.

[@beatzdyer]

The worst part, people will drop 130 and then get mad despite learning nothing.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

And this is why greedy game companies do this because the "whales" they hunt buy into their bs even if they turn the entire gaming community against them they don't care so long as one casual who isnt in the know buys their bs

[@THEDESTROYEROFNOTHING]

And the funny part is they will never learn.

[@GreenEl1te]

Cod fans

[@Dante_S550_Turbo]

dude i've around a while and EA pulls some bs ppl swear they'll boycott over all the time. Yet EA is still so profitable. Ppl never learn.

[@c2n10]

Must consoom game slop...

[@markm7776]

"we at ubisoft..." "lemme stop you right there, no."

[@JCglitchmaster]

Games so forgettable I LITERALLY forget I have a Ubisoft account with like 20 games on it.

[@s-nooze]

Exactly

[@EgoGhostX]

They already Kinda failed r6

[@Migititous360]

@@EgoGhostXhow did they fail r6 bro? It’s more popular than ever right now

[@EgoGhostX]

@@Migititous360 before them doing good they still have no anit cheat for years and doing nothing abt it till now. they werent getting rid of cheaters on console and mouse trap didnt work too well.

[@ukkovalta3946]

Triple a: 70 bucks and- oh a third of the game is grinding and its about 120 hours long?? And thats a paid dlc on the title screen.. Indie: 10 bucks for at least 40 hours of meaningful gameplay take it or leave it

[@raulthetorchic7324]

Don't forget tear-inducing lore and earth-shattering gameplay.

[@ZonaiHero-ul5nm]

@@raulthetorchic7324I’m looking at hollow knight and blasphemous.

[@raulthetorchic7324]

@ZonaiHero-ul5nm and they are exactly the ones you should be looking at (I don't know shit about blasphemous, but my friends say it is great)

[@ZonaiHero-ul5nm]

@@raulthetorchic7324 Yeah it’s great. It’s another metroidvania, inspired by Roman Catholicism. And the best part is that it has a bunch of free updates with new content.

[@aserr5660]

He’s some food for thought. What if you took a linear experience and broke it up in episodes and sold them individually at a fraction of the $60/70 price (ie Half Life 2). Would that be anti consumer?

[@kensprivateinvestigation2128]

Gotta remember this is the same company that says you dont own the games you buy.

[@brendonrookes1151]

You technically don’t if you own some thing you can do what you want with it

[@eldendad5743]

I'm not sure if it's online service game. If it is it'll be dead and lose server support in less then a year after price gouging everyone

[@Aaron_Rodgers8]

@@brendonrookes1151 there used to be a time where I could play assassins creed offline on my 360 now even if your offline your still required to have an internet connection otherwise the game doesn’t work haven’t bought an Ubisoft game since black flag

[@louisrobitaille5810]

You've never owned the games since CDs stopped being the way to download games. All we own is the access to the game, a permission, which as the company that actually owns the game, they can do whatever they want with that permission.

[@piroko13]

You own a license which states what you can and can’t do with the game, not the game per se. It’s also related to copyright and whatnot. Just like Ferrari won’t let you modify their cars even though you bought it Edit: and they’re not the only game developer who has stated that

[@SoloDeWitt]

It's a joke that they call Jabba The Hutt's mission a DLC. If a "DLC" comes out day one it's no longer a DLC, it's cut content. Content restricted behind a paywall btw.

[@CzMalby]

True

[@PublicFreakoutReviews]

Nuketown zombies from Black Ops 2 comes to mind. You had to pay $5 for it and it was a day one map

[@BasedMace]

$5 vs $60 ​@TarnishedRealm

[@CaptainSweatpants90]

Let's be honest, most DLCs that come out later are probably also ready or close to ready to ship day 1, but they hold it back to avoid this exact controversy.

[@Racc-Kun_YT]

⁠@@CaptainSweatpants90Most games aren't even close to ready on launch these days, you really think it's realistic for them to have a near complete dlc for a game that won't be finished for 8 months after release?

[@andrechaos9871]

If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing

[@PeterTschappler]

Hollup Let him cook

[@superherogenius9363]

Ong

[@Krotas_DeityofConflicts]

Well.. not exactly. It doesn't always works like that. It's about licensing when it comes to certain things

[@Krotas_DeityofConflicts]

You have never owned any game, you own a copy and a license that give you limited access to it. It always has been that way

[@Nybbler13]

It's just permanently borrowing.

[@StyxIris]

I’m pirating this shit lmfaoo

[@NikaiX2]

That is not even worth it.. xD

[@Nova11435]

Don't pirate it😢 thats a waste of 100 gigabytes of storage😂

[@ThePr0_0149]

​@@Nova11435true

[@pepper540]

correction: it's not the devs that are greedy, its the executives

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

Only in part

[@92Roar]

@@whyisthisathingnow...my guy, I don’t know how to tell you that the people fixing bugs or making concept art have 0 influence on business choices made in the company

[@THEDESTROYEROFNOTHING]

I'm blaming everyone involve really.

[@PabloEscobar-ws8rz]

It's a bad organisational structure that makes the devs work 10x harder and the executives able to make dumb decisions that hurt the development of the game

[@mardy3732]

​@@THEDESTROYEROFNOTHING That includes players.

[@doodskie999]

Me learning that the star wars' contract was ending from EA "ahh thank god!" It will now be handled by Ubisoft "FUCK!!!"

[@grayden4138]

Not exclusively, though. EA had exclusivity. Ubisoft does not. Multiple studios have games in the works.

[@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel]

To be fair, Ubisoft is marginally better than EA. ... not a wide margin, admittedly.

[@pierreo33]

@@ALookIntoTheEulenspiegel Not really

[@Josh-iv2bw]

Disney is also fully aware of their business methods, so this was entirely on purpose.

[@ahetzel9054]

🤣🤣🤣

[@LifeformofTheUniverse]

Lol, EA can't even keep up with its free games. 😂 what trash ass company.

[@alex-oh8bh]

Bro it's ubi.... Oh you are talking about Apex😅

[@mr.exeggutor7780]

​@@alex-oh8bh bro dont defend EA

[@Sogoodxboxplayer]

I swear some ea games are golden and some us I LIKE MONEY

[@ThatNerdGuy]

​@@mr.exeggutor7780defending nothing, star wars outlaws was released by ubisoft

[@henrydelaney1275]

EA sucks they made battlefront 2 which sucks and has pay to win and made the first battlefront lose all it's players

[@augustoalves8042]

In Brazil the game standart edition will cost R$ 350, and the minimal mensal salary is R$ 1400 💀

[@MORDKAu]

350 robux 🤯

[@gsst6389]

And whats bot the minimal? Yea get ya cash up

[@Mozh644]

The the ultimate edition cost a minimum monthly salary wage here. Which is a luxury at this point Yep time to switch the country.

[@Abagcendol]

That's better compared to Indonesia Here regular edition games can range between 700k-900k. Meanwhile the average salary is 3M for formal jobs and informal jobs are lower at 1M1-2M

[@matman000000]

Ubisoft should get comfortable with people not owning their games

[@TheWinsent666]

Yes, that statement meant that you can pay for Ubisoft + and finish this game in a month for 5$ instead of 130$

[@pedrojesantos]

No, it means Ubisoft should get comfortable with people OWNING their games. Just not through legal means xd

[@matman000000]

@@pedrojesantos Well, they haven't made a really good game since Watch Dogs 2, so I myself am pretty comfortable with not even renting their copy-pasted microtransation-filled excuses for games

[@themanwhomakespoints37]

Legion wasn’t horrible, but I ain’t complaining if Ubisoft goes under

[@yewtewbstew547]

@@matman000000 Yeah they're not even worth the storage space they take up at this point. If you've played one you've played them all. Also other companies have been copying Ubisoft's blueprint for over a decade at this point to much greater success than Ubisoft themselves. So even if you really wanted to play a copy-paste Ubisoft game... just play games like Horizon Zero Dawn or Ghost of Tsushima instead. Those are 100x better "Ubisoft games" than anything Ubisoft themselves has made since Assassin's Creed 2.

[@A_Simple_Zock]

Piracy: “Now this looks like a job for me”

[@dalehammers4425]

This is precisely why I do it.

[@DucksOnQuack0]

@@dalehammers4425yeah I’m waiting 2 years after the PC version, but when it hits, it HITS. Patience for free games is it.

[@lochmidnight7341]

Yo ho yo ho 🏴‍☠️

[@gotthecutenessoverload1086]

Arrrr, mateys.

[@chattycatty3336]

Me rn watching the walking dead and the dark crystal show through random websites because I refuse to pay for Netflix 😂

[@sonicex8287]

Remember when ultimate editions were literally like a metal case, an art book with an extra collectors item. Then like maybe there was a skin of a base item with a couple stripes on it 😂

[@SaKOTR]

And I happily dropped the cash. Because you had something physical to hold and collect. Now it's "Oh hey...we'll give you a digital concept artbook, a skin, and a digital copy of the soundtrack.....k thanks" Ugh...

[@Husbear1992]

I remember the last good ultimate edition I ever bought was for guild wars 1 and it came with a nice case, all expansions, a mini figure, a code for in game items that did nothing but look cool, and a mini pet of the mini figure. Then the greedy corporations attacked, and everything went to shit.

[@wolve2k]

Ahaha... ill show just how old i am... i was used for many years to get a Box, manual, gimmicks with just the base price. Simulations (like F16 falcon, F22 Raptor , f117a) had keyboard cutouts and REAL big manuals. Some adventure games like the original monkey island had a Din A3 printout of the map folded into the box! Zack mac cracken had stickers and a glow in the dark sticker. The whole Ultimate editions crap fest started with online games becoming more popular (Ultima online and everquest come to my mind right away)

[@captaincranch1668]

The first Hitman game I bought was just like this

[@MildCholester867]

@@SaKOTRoh and let’s not forget that you don’t ACTUALLY own the game if it’s digital cause they can take the license away at anytime or delist it from an online storefront and any money you spent on the game or in it is just pooof gone but does the company have to give a refund to everyone they just screwed nope and that’s because we all agree to it when we start playing the game for the very first time

[@carsonmiller711]

"Wow, this actually looks really good!" Aged like fucking milk

[@championastartes]

Helldiver's be like "Give me 40 bucks and I'll give you everything."

[@godlikemachine645]

Double that, and then you're right. Edit: Championastartes edited their comment on the price from $30 to $40.

[@xotron3379]

​@@godlikemachine645 wdym by double it? As in double helldivers price?

[@smirkyshadow4152]

@@xotron3379they mean the super citizen edition

[@xotron3379]

@@smirkyshadow4152 oh I forgot that existed ngl

[@godlikemachine645]

@@xotron3379 Yes. The base price is $40. The super citizen edition is $60.

[@robertwolfgan]

I'm convinced major videogame businesses are run by Mr. Crabbs.

[@MaximilianonMars]

Mr Krabs is charismatic at least.

[@lucasvyner1502]

not quite, the accounting teams and financial backers are, almost literally. It's why you never see og ip's, risky decisions, dumb monetisation and more recently potential goldmines tanked as tax write-offs. It's all the money backers demanding guaranteed return on their money, and well inside proper dev cycles.

[@Grimeaper]

Nah most companies that are public are built on a system that will eventually fail. Backers/investors demand you make more than last year, which is fine for a new company, but there is a point where you can't do it but the thing is if you don't they will hollow out your company and leave it a burning husk. No matter what you have to make more that includes if you accidentally create a hit and instead of making 2 million more you make 20 million more you just jumped really far ahead and fucked yourself now you got to make at least 10 million more plus that 20 million on top. This is of course a never ending cycle that will inevitable destroy your company in one way or another be it you having to find greedy methods, lie, or just they get pissed and abandon you. You cannot always make more sometimes failure happens no matter how good you are.

[@ngf5077]

Jews

[@kwameoliver2455]

Most companies are owed by Mr crabbs

[@Khobotov]

"We at Ubisoft" And just like that, you lost me.

[@scandalousbeans2591]

Rocksmith 2014 is my favorite Ubisoft game because there is a whole modding community that Ubisoft does not care about

[@UntamedAngel]

What about the assassins creed franchise?

[@Khobotov]

XP booster for a singleplayer game, no thank you.

[@Crazycartoonist8679]

More like Assassin's greed

[@Killerthemerc]

​​@@Crazycartoonist8679 as one johnny gat would say the saints used to mean something now the only Mfs that remember that are me and gat Ubisoft used to mean something now they are the scum beneath my boots now it seems like they are realizing people won't take their bs anymore they need to get comfortable with people not buying their trash products or people seeing them as monsters for taking away their purchased product

[@Justanerdd]

*hands over 70$ to Bandai Namco for Sparking Zero*

[@telikrystal47]

The way my smile dropped as I heard you say “Base game is $70,”!!

[@verakoo6187]

Not gonma say it doesn't suck, but idk why people are still suprised by this. The standard price for AAA games changed to $70 years ago.

[@telikrystal47]

@@verakoo6187 I did just translate it to £ and whilst that does sound normal for AAA I still feel like it’s an end amount for the whole thing.

[@themysteriousstranger4253]

Games on the Super Nintendo were the same price, is anyone surprised at all?

[@devlintaylor9520]

@@verakoo6187 Its still $60 for most AAA games wdym

[@nezzee]

​@@verakoo6187 and beyond that, inflation adjusted, the games are still cheaper than before since they kept hard on $60 for so long, despite growing and growing cost of development. Unfortunately, the problem is is that huge games require huge up front investment with zero payoff until release, to which hopefully translates to people buying (which even GOOD games flop). So to an investor willing to dump money into development time, they expect a decent return on investment for how much risk of losing that money is to them. Early Access sales have been at least helpful to indie devs which can at least have part of their development time funded by players, but still it's the fight between paying for a game before it's done with multiple years of dev time that could be extended even longer or eventually run out of money, or paying after it's done and paying whomever that investor was a huge return because of how long their money was locked up.

[@Anthony-kd5ku]

When I hear " you get a few days before game releases" I just know it'll be on sale in 3-6 months on steam.

[@ADEPS.]

My thoughts exactly.

[@codysanders7535]

itll also be too buggy to play for the first month

[@eviltoothpick8513]

give it a year and the ultimate edition will be freeeeeeee

[@BrighamMike]

i bought BSG 3 a few days early...

[@jswords1977]

To be fair, it seems like you can get most games on sale within 6 months.

[@xYottabyte]

"For your convenience" proceeds to drop the most inconvenient feature

[@Gradendine]

"Our convenience" is a liability to them.

[@Twilight_Kirin]

@@Gradendineor at least that’s how they see it.

[@Peanutsgrowintheground]

The extra editions don’t seem to be locking content behind a paywall. More so they’re just early access and cosmetic stuff, every game does that. It’s not gonna make the game worse not having that digital art book.

[@VerdeAntico]

What's the problem? If it is like that just buy the base edition 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@apples-fj8eu]

It's not a 3 day early access, that's when the game comes out. Everyone else has to wait 3 days

[@Certified500kgBomb]

Imagine having to pay extra because you cannot wait 3 days, patience is key 😂

[@devam8192]

I will never be ashamed of pirating games of AAA companies.

[@mr-sexy]

Source?

[@chainswordappreciator3022]

If buying isn't owning them piracy isn't theft.

[@gameora25]

Yeah I support Indie games but good triple A too like red dead sea of thieves walking dead

[@shadow24754]

Where I need to know

[@turntqble]

Based on

[@chronenojysk5107]

Wait like 2 years and the Ultimate Edition will be like $20

[@chaoschikin2875]

Exactly. I never buy games day one anymore. Been burned too many times over the years.

[@chronenojysk5107]

@@chaoschikin2875 I remember wanting to replay Watch Dogs 1, but it was like $20 on Steam, while in Ubisoft Connect Store, I could get Watch Dogs Legion Gold Edition that literally includes Watch Dogs 1 for like $25. 2 games for less than $30? That’s a bargain. Replayed Watch Dogs 1, had a good experience, then played Legion. Got bored and uninstalled the game.

[@maddoom2776]

After the first month the price will be halved

[@parsarezaie504]

Lmao,It really feels so satisfying buying a great game when It's in these sorts of offs/sales

[@chaoschikin2875]

@T0e-Man fair point. That is a con, especially for some of the bigger games like Cyberpunk. One of the endings was unintentionally spoiled to me by a coworker. I wasn't mad at him, but it was still a bummer

[@billyfugate4823]

Remember, Ubisoft is the company famous for it's phrase "purchase isn't ownership". Well my friend, piracy isn't theft 🖕🏻

[@AverageEveryDayLayman]

Two different things though. Put some thought into it.

[@mynamesdrew7128]

​@@AverageEveryDayLaymanBoooo! Go buy the super deluxe version and simp harder.

[@bruhmomento3105]

@@AverageEveryDayLaymanLick the boot,dork.

[@jayskj2655]

​@AverageEveryDayLayman if you pay for something but don't own it... then pirating isn't stealing cause both ways you don't own it and are just "borrowing it" till you're done. 😎 sounds like stealing if they sell you a product and can change it, delete; or remove your ability to use said product after you already paid. You should research what ubisoft is doing. They can sell you a disc (a physical product) for an offline game and, through a long explanation you should research, remove your ability to play it by making you connect to the internet to download/update an offline game with a disc. So for a game that doesnt require internet, they make you connect to internet, and have the ability to render a disc game you bought useless at anytime they want cause you dont own the product. Think about that for a second. (Why would ubisoft do that you ask? Cause the vast majority of gamers are playing old games and they need a way to ensure new gamers get hooked on their live service games, spend money, and stop playing something they can't monotize anymore. So just like apple did with iphones, they manipulate your old, perfectly fine product, to nudge you into their new one.) Ubisoft spends more time and resources manipulating the consumer to buy their games, then they do manipulating their games to make them worth buying. I don't pirate games, but if I did I'd want to steal from the company that's trying to rob me.

[@jonathankent1517]

They're also famous for rampant sex abuse.

[@JustCallMeElGamer]

Its hilarious that companies still use the “graph” for what you are getting, you know the one

[@SlurpyPie]

You know it's bad when EA is becoming more tolerable than Ubisoft

[@kobaye2111]

Rockstar Games are the worst

[@SlurpyPie]

@@kobaye2111 Bro are you high or something? Don't get me wrong I have my problems with Rockstar no doubt about that, but they are far from being considered "The Worst". They've almost consistently dropped absolute bangers with the quality of their games getting better with each release. They might be greedy sure but compared to Ubisoft they're saints considering the fact they don't remove the ability to play games that you already paid for like Ubisoft did with The Crew and have the audacity to not refund their customers.

[@Highly-grounded]

@@SlurpyPiewaiting a decade for game is pretty bad though

[@SlurpyPie]

@@Highly-grounded It’s half a decade since their last game but I get your point although considering the state games are now I’m completely fine with Rockstar taking their time to finish their games properly instead of rushing them for a quick buck.

[@animeleek]

@@SlurpyPie GTA has generated 8.5 billion in revenue with 6 billion being the dlc alone

[@spacemeter3001]

*looks at pirate hat* "Arrr, looks like we both are going to get sailing again, old friend!"

[@thedeep6570]

Probably not. It will probably have denuvo like Avatar.

[@DrymarchonShaun]

​@@thedeep6570eh, when it comes to AAA games it usually only takes a few months for them to bypass that.

[@lmdirkdiggler7170]

​@@thedeep6570 Denuvo, lol.

[@lmdirkdiggler7170]

​@DrymarchonShaun Exactly. No matter what they use, it always gets bypassed eventually.

[@charsage1036]

Over time I care less and less about these particularly greedy companies having games pirated but if its Indie or a rare example of a good company then I have have a problem. Also emulaion of older games isn't pirating or is at least ok in my opinion it ain't like buying a actal copy of sacred stones will give money to Nintendo.

[@phtmkyyljoy]

Remember when $130 collector's editions just had cool statues or replicas, instead of "bonus content"?

[@AcilandreF]

I remember when the Digital Download version was like 30-40$ instead of the full price of 60$. Now most games are digital only, there is not an actual physical bit of anything for a lot of games, yet they keep the prices high because Those higher ups want that nice new suit to put in the new closet in their new vacation home. I miss when games were made by gamers and handled as art and a product, not a "service" that we supposedly don't own and have no guarantees to actually be able to play when we want to.

[@ZaChemas]

They had cool actual things, like medallions, things that could well... BE FOR A COLLECTION, now it's just greedy ass practice

[@drjamaymay405]

​@@AcilandreF Digital download was $20 cheaper, when people didn't know if it would take off. They saw it as a risk to offer at the same price as the physical because who would buy a digital copy for the same as a physical one. Now we know that people don't care about the medium and just want the game (mostly). Selling CD's isn't crazy expensive. It costs money but not enough to warrant digital being $20 cheaper. The games currently are worth a fair price. Yeah it's $70 base, inflation makes the number higher.

[@AnonD38]

@@drjamaymay405Making games is dirt cheap as long as you don't have 200 of 250 employees who twiddle their thumbs for a living.

[@kuraikagemike]

@@KurosuKiriewell have you heard about what happened to almost all digital games after Xbox live went down on 360. A lot of people lost the rights to play those games on digital versions because of licensing agreement. My sister can only play physical copies of games on 360 now. After realizing that I get physical copies of every game I can.

[@Hieroglyphics87]

This aged so well. The people who got early access after the 3 days they had to create a new game save due to a bug that would prevent them from leaving the planet and continuing the story after ubisoft did a hotfix.

[@crankylucifer]

AAA Devs ARE on our side. AAA companies are NOT on our side. Important distinction!

[@PeachDragon_]

No

[@billyharris2794]

AAA devs _can be_ on our side, and many are. But they're also capable of being shills.

[@EvadeEXE]

@@PeachDragon_I mean yeah they are, think of Alan wake 2, and bg3, they’re both triple a and on the side of the consumer

[@AlexSmith-tp7xu]

It's like that one skit White women: average white women *white women*: karens

[@crankylucifer]

@@Keravonos it's not as easy as you make it sound like. You don't just quit your job, you'd still need a steady income, which you wouldn't get without a work. A lot, and I mean a lot, of people go to work unhappy, just so they can live salary to salary without and they can't afford to change work. Being a developer in game industry is currently overhyped and the job market for it is beyond saturated. This means lower salaries and lower premiums and the employer ultimately treat their employees worse.

[@codym5352]

Ubisoft " Give us $130 and we'll only remove SOME of the games from your library"

[@TheRedBrethren]

Seriously, did the games even need to be that big?

[@meltedWax169]

"Give us 130 dollars and we'll swap out some games in your library for newer, shittier, jankier ones.

[@totallytravicious]

​@TheRedBrethren it's bc of all the voice lines. Audi takes up a HUGE portion of space and instead of letting customers just pay for the language they want the game in, you get ALL of them, even IF you decide to (for some weird reason) play the star wars game in Dutch AND Portuguese. If they let customers pick the languages they download, I can almost guarantee games would be half as big. But tbh I think the more gb it has, the more money it's "worth." "If this AAA game were producing is only 20 gb, people are gonna think it barely has as much content as an indy game." And that's probably how 99% of those conversations go down. More gb ≠ more content BUT, on the surface, you can for sure make that argument

[@nanafundesu]

@@totallytravicious textures as well, AAA games will have a lot of 2048x2048 and 4k textures which can bloat the game

[@onerian8178]

forget $130 i dont even want to pay $70

[@cessnafun5385]

I don’t even mind paying $60 when you get the entire game. That’s what made Star Wars Battlefront II in 2017 such a strange case for EA, because if you bought that game, you actually owned all of it. And let’s not forget that older game consoles like the PS1 capped their game prices at $40 to be more appealing to consumers. AAA game companies are an absolute joke nowadays and there’s almost no reason whatsoever to buy anything from them.

[@Nova-zk5gn]

59.99 was already ridiculous now base games are 69.99

[@brandongainer9434]

@@cessnafun5385 Inflation doesn't help a damn thing either

[@michaelgallacher4800]

Are you guys real ?? It cost 50 for a ps2 game that took months to develope. Now they take years woth a studio 3 times the size paying 3 times the staff. Then we wonder why the games industry dosnt try anything new. With inflation alone games should be way over

[@TheGhost-cw3qm]

​@@brandongainer9434inflation is a made up word and has no actual effect on prices. The elite just keeps saying that to keep us quiet

[@MrDobens]

A while back rockstar made all dlc's free with shark cards to stay afloat and no other company has tried that again

[@TheProgressiveFrequency]

"For your convenience" my ass, more like "for Ubisoft CEOs' wallets"

[@RabidDogma]

$70 for the base game (a DIGITAL GAME) is absolutely INSANE

[@HappyIsaac0420]

​@RabidDogma a game that you *technically* don't own cause they can revoke your games whenever for whatever reason, gotta love the fine print in online purchasing agreements.

[@RaveCoaster]

It's like Dragons dogma 2s' downloadable content. It's pay for convenience because u can grind for it, unlike most ubisoft and EA dlcs. They're locked content, strictly paid content.

[@Jaimyoutubing]

​@@RaveCoaster Yeah peopled dogged on DD2 hard for having micro-transactions, but its all unlockable stuff in game. Literally all completely normal stuff. That you can collect legitly in about half an hour if you try hard enough. It's only purpose is as a boost for new/lazy players.

[@usonohoshi6165]

The funniest thing about the convenience part is people who paid to play 3-days in advance had to restart their ENTIRE game. Meaning their paid UBI EXTRA to be their Q&A. Instead of the other way around.😂 I call that a scam.

[@damirpav1987]

"We at Balkan will be pirating this game for free"

[@bluedragonfly8139]

And then you can get sued for tons of money. Have fun.

[@Loik948]

@@bluedragonfly8139 nobody gives a shit in most second or third world countries. some don't even have laws about it. Also VPN

[@shlapmaster]

@@bluedragonfly8139 Who's gonna sue? The corrupt government? Game companies that have no presence here?

[@wyimaginowany5404]

@@bluedragonfly8139 Not really. No one really cares about pirate gamers - at least not as much as DISTRIBUTORS of pirated games. Those have actually higher probability of getting sued - but that didn't really happen ever beacuse of how hard it is for companies to track anyone with a pirated copy. Crack scene in entire world is really big, people are making crap ton of money from it, you can even buy stolen Windows Keys for like 1$ instead of 100$ and Microsoft doesn't give a single F about it , lol

[@hydragaming6887]

​@@bluedragonfly8139I can bet that my country's government uses pirated copies of Windows

[@Pachitaro]

This is a "Get the GOTY edition in two years while you play through your backlog" game

[@8xottox8]

Maybe 4 years, wait until the price hits well under 30 bucks.

[@knightofvirtue613]

I'll wait for this to be free on epic 😂

[@Mwuff7775]

Exaaaactly

[@Mwuff7775]

​@@knightofvirtue613True, almost all Ubi games hit free within a few years on Epic.

[@SatonakaCP4]

@@8xottox8 I just started PC gaming roughly 2-3 years ago and am finally learning this trick. Have a HUGE backlog now and am enjoying quality games for cheap that have been on the steam store for YEARS now and when new games get added, i wishlist them and wait for a sale/discount in the future while I STILL go through my backlog.

[@djemaibattat1351]

quick information: in my country 130 $ is literally someone's monthly income

[@doomguy8447]

And 10 years later, we at ubisoft will revoke your access to the $130 game you purchased digitally because you dont actually own it. You are simply renting it from us long term.

[@pirateraider1708]

10 years might be too generous an estimate.

[@edgeldine3499]

So what your saying is I should pirate the game..

[@GrinningJest3r]

@FredrickWilhelm-np6vi Check out IPFS, because yes. The data required to keep things online would be stored in a decentralized manner, so even if the company decides to no longer support the game or keep their proprietary online servers running, the online data can still be accessed from all of the storage locations that do contain the it. And the company can't shut them down or prevent you from accessing it. And with web3, you own the game files forever after purchase. No more "long term rentals" like you get from Amazon Movies, KZbin videos, or even Ubisoft and other gaming companies.

[@Sc0rpJoe]

​@FredrickWilhelm-np6viSingle player games shouldn't require running servers or to be tied to timed licenses, that can be revoked by the publisher on a whim, locking players out of their purchased product

[@salzaman41429]

​@FredrickWilhelm-np6viregardless if its multiplayer or singleplayer, you should still be able get into a game that you paid for. Doesn't matter if it's live service or not. It's like a shop taking away product you bought just because you haven't used said product for 2/3 months.

[@batuhanylmaz3661]

"How does doing that convinience me exactly?" "Oh it doesn't, I was talking to our CEO."

[@John-Doe-07]

‏‏‎

[@capnfungi7875]

The devs are artists who just want to make games, the executives and shareholders are the greedy ones.

[@turtlar1434]

Not buying these games don't affect the devs either I think because dev wages are covered as "expenses" for the company.

[@davidfrederiksen3185]

​@@turtlar1434 But they do get fired

[@matthewkessing1924]

@@davidfrederiksen3185 I'm curious about this. How many of the best indie studios were started by devs that were fired from the AAA studios?

[@SiriusG]

@@matthewkessing1924 a lot. like greater than 70% of them were started by ex AAA devs

[@davidfrederiksen3185]

@@matthewkessing1924 well some but in a lot of cases it's people who left ø. But off course the very experienced ones that are also well known have it a lot easier

[@TheStrangr3675]

Giving people the choice between 60$ for half the game and 130$ for the full game is like pissing a a dehydrated person’s mouth and saying it’s better than being thirsty

[@tavmansn1122]

"For your convenience" is so accurate😂😂 they really think we're not seeing what they're doing

[@maddiepaige715]

Unfortunately, if it weren't working they wouldn't keep doing it. People in general are frustratingly stupid. I mean the games industry openly calls their most valuable customers "whales". They haven't had the least bit of respect for their target audience in a very long time, if indeed they ever had any to begin with. Not to mention the disgusting way they treat the people actually _making_ the games that they then carve up into "over priced", "obscenely priced" and "bend over and spread em priced" editions after the fact. Which is why I don't buy anything at all from the so-called "AAA" industry anymore. Rather support indi devs who at the very least are the ones getting the majority of the money their game makes, and not some money eating parasite in a suit.

[@Mali8029]

Right? for my convenience just release the game free obviously that is not viable but don't pretend for a second that any monetization is for the consumers convenience it is not.

[@yeetthebeatout6906]

“We at Ubiso-“ Me: You’ve lost me

[@Mr-screentime]

Ubisoft is the ultimate AAA villain

[@orhanefeunal1811]

So wait ea losed th spot now?

[@niccotalbert4378]

It's still EA

[@orhanefeunal1811]

@@niccotalbert4378 are we sure what is the ea upcoming or the new game

[@namelssking]

you mean EA

[@wadewilson3309]

its still ea

[@Flaywind]

"Early Access" is just "Pay more to play the game on release day, or pay less and wait a week to play it."

[@LegendaryFenrir]

Not to mention, the Jabba the Hut mission they used for the trailer is locked behind the season pass

[@popipom]

cult of the lamb has no in game purchases AND is cheap. very underrated game imo

[@maxkahlow8622]

This shit is why I'm no longer a gamer

[@omegadadragon]

​@@maxkahlow8622 Indie games typically aren't as bad.

[@ProfOak-ci2cc]

Wow, just wow. People need to stop buying games from these companies

[@rockjianrock]

Think thats the intended plan, "you want it? Then buy the full game."

[@ReindeerDan]

When it’s like FromSoftware where their DLC is hand crafted to perfection like if Davinci painted a sister piece to the Mona Lisa, I don’t mind. But Triple AAA DLC is usually like a fast food worker forgot to give you your drink and fries the first time and is charging you extra for what you already paid for and they just didn’t give you because they didn’t want to scoop the fries or pour the drink.

[@jaysonvancouofficial6100]

Fromsoftware and Santa Monica studios, they knew One thing Very well, They care for their Fans, They Make Their Game with Love, and their DLC feels like a totally Different Game.

[@andrestamm3395]

Literally exactly what paradox does, except they first give you 1 fry, 1 sip of your drink and 1 bun of the burger and ask for 20 dollars to get each and every missing piece.

[@calijack2006]

I’ve been saying this about from software for a long time they don’t half ass their games every single one of their titles has been crafted from the ground up into an immersive experience I mean say what you will about dark souls 2 but that game had more love and care put into it than most AAA titles and still felt like a complete experience I’ll never forget the first time I picked up my favorite game of all time bloodborne I played that repeatedly over and over for months straight

[@anonymous-db6gp]

Nintendo are solid (except pokemon which is also run by game freak) with DLC often being cool ideas they have after release if it does happen such as with botw, though not quite as well as fromsoft

[@MidnightCrescent]

​@@jaysonvancouofficial6100Santa Monica has some of the best story and designs but I apparently have the very unpopular opinion that God of War 4's combat was trash. It was playable but felt so boring and unsatisfying at the same time.

[@kappapanda965]

And somewhere deep inside you, a familiar song of piracy echoes "do what you want cause a pirate is free, you're a pirate" !

[@garadak7.]

i dont even want to pirate it

[@lazarmarkovic9466]

YAR HAR FIDDLE DE DEE

[@scarlightemperor3410]

A pirates life for me

[@skeiths4649]

@@lazarmarkovic9466 BEING A PIRATE IS ALRIGHT WITH ME

[@magellan6439]

​@@skeiths4649YOU ARE A PIRATE

[@midw3stsurv1v0r7]

The best part is plenty of BG3 fans would GLADLY pay for DLC but larion has principles

[@Salazarsalsa]

My husband got the $100 "new" COD game bc he wanted to start playing early. The game literally didn't work until the day the game was released.

[@GabiStefan1872]

So they gave your husband "early game access" and it didn't even work untill the release?💀wtf is worng with activision

[@medfibezk8745]

​@GabiStefan1872 that's exactly what they said, yes.

[@GabiStefan1872]

@@medfibezk8745 yes

[@matheusalvarenga7820]

​@@GabiStefan1872 everything. capitalism, man. it just works 🎉

[@ggs8116]

"HOW THE FUCK DO I PLAY THE GAME"- Dr Disrespect

[@DeckDogs4Life]

You forgot to add the Ubisoft response at the end saying "well, we aren't a AAA studio, we are a AAAA studio"

[@cyan_wings5420]

Even more of a joke X;'D

[@CabbageMints]

I won a game jam hosted by Ubisoft, and the last year prizes were a plane ticket and the choice between keyboards or monitors, this year we got a game discount for some random ubisoft game 💀

[@kocurowskyy39]

Not even the full game as an reward?

[@pilushansamu7714]

@@kocurowskyy39 thst's how you know that their games are pricey af and that they being greedy.

[@Poodleinacan]

Bruh Ubisoft is about to be U-be-ded. Nothing lasts for ever

[@culturedaadmi4683]

Ngl that message on Baldur's Gate 3 is such a BOSS MOVE

[@Blade_Corps]

Ubi: "So is now a bad time to talk about the microtransactions?"

[@giocarcidze9030]

Yes, and that's why 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of mobile games suck

[@Crazycartoonist8679]

Don't forget EA

[@Razor_5k]

oh and we'll make it online only so when we decide to stop supporting servers you won't be able to play 😂

[@fewkeyfewkey5414]

@@giocarcidze9030ong but at least their free why pay a micro transaction for a paid game

[@VlRU7S]

Remember, if you don’t want to spend your uncles inheritance money on a single Ubisoft game, buy Helldivers 2. UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN!

[@DakumunDahBat]

Unironically, While I have loved Dragon's Dogma 2, and I wanna play it more, spreading managed democracy is VERY fun.

[@Aredel]

FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@mostcertainlyben]

Just hope steam doesn’t decide to corrupt the entire instance and not properly install it again after tanking 3k files

[@LocoRoco2009]

See you on the Automaton front, helldiver!!!

[@mdpl-05]

buy a paid game with microtransaction currency? really?

[@bobby5851]

That $130 could get you 8-10 older games that you haven’t played through yet and are now on sale

[@WestGarbage6]

Honestly depending on how old we're talking, even Wii type of old, you could get at least double that if they're on-sale or on clearance, or used.

[@samfish90212]

During the right time of year $100 can buy 20 games or more.

[@oldschoollion]

People are also not understanding inflation and increased labor of games over time. i remember games in the 80s costing on AVERAGE $40, $60 for ps and xbox big games original platform. Today that is about $110 each vs the high resolution open world with licensing to other intellectual properties. This is roughly the cost of escape fron tarkov, and havent heard any bitching about that being too high or tiered.

[@bobby5851]

@@oldschoollion tarkov standard edition is $50

[@TheSmuey]

And those would probably be just better games as a whole, too... The current state of the gaming industry is pretty bleak.

[@Mitchell_is_even_dumer]

Except Bandai Namco gets a pass for sparking zero because that will be GOTY

[@LivingTheGoodTimes]

And now Larian has enough goodwill that their next project immediately has my full support

[@Nerazmus]

Well, hopefully if they release a next project they will release it in a complete state and without gazillion gamebreaking bugs.

[@Wustenfuchs109]

@@Nerazmus Honestly, that is the unavoidable part of RPG games since the dawn of PC gaming. RPG games offer the most branching and options by default, and they have exponentially more things to go wrong compared to any other genre of games. Which is why, when you take ANY year since, let us say 1990, to 2024, the buggiest games by pretty large margin were always RPGs. I am not saying that it is a good thing and that you should accept it, but it is good to understand why that is the case. It is not as big of a problem depending on how the company takes that info - Larian started fixing it immediately. As did CDPR. But Bethesda, Ubisoft and some others - they are going at a snail's pace. Then you can be mad all you want and you have every right to be so. But now then devs of RPGs drop a game that is rough around the edges. VtM:Bloodlines is a cult classic... yet it took YEARS to patch and people were releasing fixes long after the game developers went bust. How long did it take to fix Pathfinder? Still amazing game and I would not bat an eye. Rouge Trader? Game breaking bug near the final chapters. Still, amazing game. RPG games are like that and RPG players understand and have patience.

[@Verboten_Joey]

Isn't that how people got burned with Cyberpunk 2077? Witcher 3 was such an excellent game that they trusted CD Project Red, trust that was exploited.

[@Nerazmus]

@@Verboten_Joey Except they actually fixed Cyberpunk.

[@awesomeswifter1138]

​@vojtik135 you should've seen baldurs gate in early access gale gets murdered by everyone, instead of a hand reaching out a portal he jumps our and starts off condescendingly talking to yoh

[@Levmih]

I wanna go back the simple - You give money, We give Game. (No subscriptions, No editions, Competed with no patches. Just a game that’s already done)

[@vuklind_9301]

Thankfully, we still have indie games for that.

[@davidistakinganap]

Literally man and no crazy prices

[@ekmi0322]

There were secrets and cheat codes too!

[@alexmendez3681]

@Levmih No you don’t, that’s cap. If that was the case this game should be priced around $120, no editions. Mortal Kombat II sold for $70 on the SNES back in 1990s. Do you guys expect games to always be $70?

[@nicholasstockbridge5702]

I dont buying additional content in certain games. Like overcooked all you can eat. Releasing new levels

[@matthewbourgeois187]

"Early Access" = You pay us to test our unfinished game so we don't have to pay professionals to do it.

[@oklinq6099]

but usually you get the game a lot cheaper in this state (for example subnautica)

[@matthewbourgeois187]

@oklinq6099 A VAST majority of games make you pay MORE for early access because it's considered exclusive and usually comes with some dumb cosmetics.

[@oklinq6099]

@@matthewbourgeois187 really? Thats not my definition of early access at all xD. I allways liked the way subnautica does it. You can get a unfinished game for half the price so they already get more developement budget

[@gpfhantom1890]

​@@oklinq6099 Yep, Subnautica and Bladurs Gate are what happens when a Developers actually cares about the games they make and aren't just making games to print money

[@sgxbot]

@@oklinq6099 yeah or you pay 130 for a game thats garbage from a AAA publisher to test their unfinished garbage so they can prepare a post to say sorry for the bugs the game released with.

[@JaeshWood-hv6je]

The fact that you could buy Elden Ring and it's DLC for cheaper or around the same price makes this a downright scam.

[@megarayquaza9054]

Baldur's Gate 3, Helldivers 2 and Lethal Company, we need a 4th game to complete the 4 horsemen of amazing games to fight against Triple A Companies

[@QuinnJustice-wh3yo]

Hollow Knight

[@phoeinxdrop2300]

I want to say content warning

[@TheCarloCarlone]

It's a shame how little people tried outer wilds

[@MasterQ18]

Minecraft

[@laurencevicar5798]

Baldur’s gate 3 is an AAA budget game

[@GoldenGambit7]

Another great thing with BG3; they actively work to make updates not just bug patches. They have added so much more content, and I’ve even seen new endings they’re working on. It’s just amazing how much one company can show how good games can be if you just give us the full game.

[@gurt00]

Yeah it's bug patches and adding required content to finish the game vs giving new content to an already full, amazing game. That's what set it so apart.

[@user-ph5ro8xl4o]

Huh? They said they're done w baldur's gate 3 and moving onto their next project now and even added they'll never make another baldur's gate again because they're not interested in milking

[@GoldenGambit7]

@@user-ph5ro8xl4o Well maybe not new endings, but they are working on improving the evil endings from what I’ve seen, especially for the Dark Urge.

[@Alexis-vl2no]

And then 5 years later they take it from everyone's library, never to be seen again.

[@Faiiltrain]

just get comfortable not owning your own games...

[@splatsmodofficial]

Just like they did with The Crew

[@jiggycalzone8585]

As a needless remastered version is released around the same time. Purely by coincidence obviously

[@literallyhuman5990]

5 months, take it or leave it

[@reubenpx1809]

@@Faiiltrain no I will not? I'd rather not buy them then.

[@wastelandlegocheem]

Ubisoft: erm actually we are making quadruple A games 🤓

[@qwertyqwert2818]

Ubisoft: $130 Me:🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️⚓🏃

[@Fraggr92]

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!

[@ZerotheeHero]

Enjoy playing a game for free while those thousands of devs who got unemployed who spent years making the game but because their games arent selling enough because you dont like the executives decisions who wont get fired…..

[@helio3928]

​@@ZerotheeHerothey still have to pay wages + they still sell. pirates don't crash companies

[@sahave5042]

@@ZerotheeHeroEnjoy letting AAA games keep increasing their prices while providing less games

[@Fraggr92]

@@ZerotheeHero You seriously think that developers don't get sacked anyway? Laying off staff at the end of a development cycle is literally standard practice in the gaming industry. Or what, did you think the studio would just pay the devs to sit there and roll their thumbs while the studio figured out what they want to do next? If they're lucky they might get kept on to do some DLC or cosmetics, but most of the team gets cut once there is no longer a use for them. Sales won't affect that. The only thing sales might affect is potential scope of future projects, which is where you really make a difference with this sort of stuff. Nobody wants $70 games, so we have to show publishers that making games that would "require" them to sell the finished product at that high of a price just isn't viable. Reduce the scope so that you can bring prices down, or enjoy having your games get lukewarm receptions. Simple as that.

[@Venalii1]

People, please, I’m begging you all. DO NOT support these kind of behaviors by buying these games. Gotta demonstrate to these companies that these predatory practices aren’t gonna fly.

[@hugomendoza5665]

Look, I know that corporations are greedy, but what is predatory about offering more [if extraneous] content for more money? Did no one else notice the base game is just a normal 70 dollars? That's been the standard for new games. What's predatory about that?

[@chalk1415]

COD and FIFA players be like…

[@michaelbuell7032]

@@hugomendoza5665 often times dlc is found on the game they just sell the license to activate it. It’s predatory because it purposely creates a fear of missing out by acting like they are doing us a favor by cutting a product into pieces. When I buy a cake I get a whole cake. not scammed into a deluxe cake that includes frosting for an extra 30 bucks but the whole thing frosting and all at normal price. We want games to come out finished like every other product in existence.

[@verakoo6187]

​​@@michaelbuell7032 If u go to a bakery they will 100% try to upsell u with more options, and a frosted cake will certainly cost more than a non frosted one, What a stupid example. Lol People really over use that word, how is this a scam in any form? Were is the thing that is tricking u out of ur money? How can someone scam u when they never even asked u to buy it? they throw options out into the world, u see it then u can choose yes i want to buy or no i do not. Your money only leaves ur hands if u want it to.

[@ceoatcrystalsoft4942]

​@@hugomendoza5665its half the cost of the entire game for one mission. Ifnthat mission isn't half another game, or more, its predatory. Predatory is about tricking gullible idiots into spending money they wouldn't otherwise spend because they are too dumb to understand

[@Verpabobz]

“ for your convenience we will be screwing you over to three different degrees”

[@mimcduffee86]

I'm not sure I've seen someone cry that hard over some cosmetic bs before. Props.

[@Brotlov]

​@@mimcduffee86 Think about what this means for the entirety of Ubisoft moving forward, not just what comes in this particular package. Looking at the bigger picture, they're already taking games like The Crew out of peoples libraries of games that they bought. Who's to say they won't deem this their latest and greatest Star Wars game and make everyone who purchased the previous ones unable to play them? Waste of $130, even $70, honestly. They'll just take the game from you eventually.

[@conspiracypanda1200]

Yeah, I don't wanna rent a game for an unknown period of time for $70, let alone $130! I don't like the idea that the physical discs I buy can be taken away from me because of always online shenanigans. I already experienced it with Overwatch - I never wanted to play 2 and if I did I would've prefered to buy it seperately so 1 could still exist. Now I have a useless disc, and Ubisoft saw that shit and said, "hey! That should be our entire buisiness model!"

[@Curlyfries1158]

To be honest, I didn’t go for the other editions. It didn’t seem like anything new was being added so I stuck with the original. I’ve been happy so far.

[@raystorm7]

We don't have time for this. Democracy calls Helldivers 😂

[@SomeoneElseInTheComments]

Enjoy your rootkit anticheat!

[@zonked1200]

@@SomeoneElseInTheComments Is there a rootkit with helldivers? I was recommended trying that game.

[@sadnmann]

@@zonked1200Yes, search up nProtect game guard. Kernel level anti-cheat with previous scandals. No reason for kernel level ac in a coop game.

[@Gwarganisht]

@@SomeoneElseInTheComments Hey thanks man. Hope you're having a great day

[@AyushMajumder-qx7qh]

​@@zonked1200 best game ever try it

[@Imm0rta1us]

Helldivers 2 sitting in the corner quietly sipping their tea

[@kylemeza2620]

Liber-tea

[@BANANAPOWER515]

Deep rock galactic devs are also not greedy, they do have dlcs but they are $8.00 and they give you things for all characters, weapons, and future items too.

[@Imm0rta1us]

@@BANANAPOWER515 🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@clarktaylor8729]

They have the “Super Citizen” edition with content that is behind a pay wall. And a battle pass with pay to win weapons and armor.

[@lsw3364]

@@clarktaylor8729 The "content" behind a paywall is a C-tier weapon and a handful of cosmetics lol. Also all battle passes can be unlocked with in-game currency, I have unlocked all 3 without spending any real money in about 100 hours of playtime.

[@greenstonegecko]

How to kill a game before it releases: 1. Asking $70+

[@crazymelon02]

bg3 cost near to that but it is one of the best games ever made. Quality has its price but most of the time it costs 70 bucks and you get unfinished crap that looses support half a year in

[@Krystalocke]

@@crazymelon02 Such a huge shock that a complete game was released too. Standards have dropped but its great to know some companies out there still have em

[@JoeMama-qt5go]

​@crazymelon02 the only reason I haven't bought bg3 yet is because it's 60 on pc but for whatever reason 70 on console. it probably is worth 70 but I can't justify getting price gouged because of my preferred platform. don't know who's decision it was so it may not be devs fault, but upcharging with no extra benefits for the same game doesn't leave a good taste in my mouth.

[@BaneSIlvermoon]

​@Krystalocke If you're talking about BG3, that's kind of a weird point to bring up since the game was two months away from being in Early Access for 3 years. Of course it was a finished game on the "release date". It had been for sale, being played, and getting patches since October 2020. Game was 3 years old at what people consider it's release date. It came out six weeks after Ghosts of Tsushima. It's weird how games get shit on for early access, but then something like BG3 comes along and it's just entirely ignored that it even existed during that period.

[@james_42]

​@BaneSIlvermoon and it's hilarious because BG3 is genuinely the buggiest AAA I've played in about a decade aside from maybe Cyberpunk. Ubisoft games aren't any kind of gold standard for bugs, but they're far better on launch than even BG3 is nowadays.

[@willadslewandowski4977]

This can be sorted out by the Asian Dad technique “If there is sale buy nine”

[@PinsuBha]

"A pirate is free"

[@not_moist]

So you support crimes

[@DrRippenShitten]

Real talk, let's normalise using pirating as a means of DEMOing a game to see if it's worth the price it's asking. BG3 I pirated because I wasn't sure. I ended up buying the game after their first major update because they deserved every cent of that price point....

[@lumberjackofalltrades]

DO WHAT YOU WANT 'CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE

[@Rizzcone]

Hope they crack denuvo on this shit fast

[@freakysquirrel7218]

"You are a pirate!"

[@3000shifty]

I'll take the $0 package, thank you.

[@TheAndrain]

And then the Jabba mission where you see Han in Carbonite is actually a DLC mission. Because our middle finger just isn't high enough.

[@louisrobitaille5810]

Only money talks and people keep buying the pricier editions, so it's never gonna stop.

[@halvsketchy9293]

Gold and ultimate editions arent really the problem. Dragon ball sparking zero had that exact thing, but the difference is that sparking zero is actually good and it hits perfectly for the targeted audience

[@theqcumberguy927]

“Well you don’t have to drop $130🤓” “And you don’t have to release gold or ultimate edition’s🗿” Real

[@atticusbailey5934]

Wait fuck I read wrong i’m stoobid 🤡 Org: Me thinking he was defending the big bad greedy corporation.

[@iko20101]

@@atticusbailey5934 that is how DLCs and Season passes work buddy. You must be young or something because almost every game to have released in the past 20 years has had DLCs and Season Passes but only these past few years people started to cry about them.

[@atticusbailey5934]

@@iko20101 Everybody has complained about season passes but not DLC’s unless they are lackluster because DLC’s are an actual completely new chunk of the game with different mechanics and things that may add on to the base game. This is just extra little bonuses that you get if you pay 50 bucks for when it could just be unlockable.

[@vantagecontrol]

@@atticusbailey5934Atticus, did you even watch the goddamn video?! ITS LITERALLY THE SAME SHIT BEING SAID IN THE VIDEO HE ISNT DEFENDING AAA GAME STUDIOS- the internet fucking sucks bro i can’t take it anymore 😂😂😂

[@atticusbailey5934]

@@vantagecontrol wait I think I’m stupid I read it wrong my bad

[@Cas2000San]

That's why I play old games, doing a classic Final Fantasy rundown right now

[@raidenvakarian9362]

Yeah, because old games were always complete and never charged you for additional content, right?

[@melanp4698]

@@raidenvakarian9362 But not disproportionally so.

[@raidenvakarian9362]

@@melanp4698 Only because the ones that worked great and were feature-complete are the ones we remember today, while we forget the cash-grab unfinished trash or the "sequels" that were really just full-price DLC. It's like if someone from 20 years in the future says "man gaming used to be so much better back then with games like Baldur's Gate 3 and Elden Ring, not the crap we get today", while neglecting the fact that stuff like Kill the Justice League also exists.

[@melanp4698]

@@raidenvakarian9362 I have been a gamer for more than 35 years. I can say for certain it has never been even a shred of what it is today. Like i said, it's more about how much it's happening rather than the fact that it has always happened.

[@thegwynbleidd4202]

Modern games are infinitely better. You just have to look for them instead of trashing on the few rotten apples in the bag.

[@Marxonist]

I think the last offer is just to make the middle on look better because even they know no one is paying that

[@Frankiponken]

True, it’s an old technique to fool customers. Same with graphics cards when they release xx60,xx70, xx80 cards with different prices

[@Marxonist]

@@Frankiponken and the same as the last drink size in most restaurants or cafes or coffee shops places

[@dr.bherrin]

Lots of people pay it...

[@blulikefriendlyhit1213]

Yeah, but the funnel is supposed to go like: an economy version (say 40 dollars), the one they actually want you to buy (60-70 dollars) and then a ridiculously overpriced one for deluxe players (80-100 dollars) Not having the economic option be the actual full price option and then the rest overpriced

[@forzafan92]

i will because it makes yall foam at the mouth with anger

[@jokerzbp9545]

And all the people who paid for the early access had to restart their games because of a game breaking bug that wasn't patched until the day 1 release

[@cyberseking3170]

"For your convenience" What he meant to say was "For our wallets"

[@VecheslavNovikov]

It's pretty convenient. You can get the base game, the gold edition with built in season pass, or the extra fancy one with a bunch of cosmetics. You get to choose the features you want and how much you want to spend.

[@stormkelleh]

I remember when games used to ship complete with no need for day 1 updates or “mass fixes until it’s in a playable state” patches

[@TheDraiden]

Day 1 updates are going to happen as games get more and more complex. That said. There is a line. It is very easy to tell when a game was simply released broken vs a release with bugs that need to be corrected.

[@Smoke_999]

More and more complex yet 0 fun when you cannot play the game you spent your money on cause the company decided it is a good idea to annoucne a game a couple of months earlier than it should be to generate hype only to be a nightmare for gamers.​@TheDraiden

[@Col_Grisoat]

Well, we could have games release a lot later, I mean, its not like the ACTUAL PLAYERS, playing the game is more effective than the dev's playtesting (*See Palworld*).

[@kleinkaufman8940]

Well yeah, but back then if a game had a glitch you lived with it, not to mention if the game sucked, you also had to lived with it, no updates to control schemes, no bug fixes, and if it was short, you also had to live with it. If it was shit from the start, there was no saving. Whatsmore, back then, we still had updated versions of games, but you had no choice but to buy the game again if you wanted the update.

[@salvadordollyparton666]

or stupid shit NEVER getting fixed, even when it makes the game unplayable, or won't even run... so the community has to come up with workarounds. but then the fun stuff... patched out every time.

[@Gruso57]

Developer: The person who designs and codes the video game. They make zero decisions on how a game is sold or marketed.

[@SergeantAveryJohnson]

exactly people out here sending threats etc to devs who do not decide on pricing, hell its not even their fault when the game is released buggy as executives force them to work nonstop to a tight deadline so devs are forced to cut corners so they are not fired etc

[@RememberHisLove]

Yet the same devs have no problem boasting about where they work, so they can enjoy the brand reputation of being a company Yes Man. It's that simple.

[@SergeantAveryJohnson]

@@RememberHisLove because reputation is everything. if you want a good wage and to have bargaining power if you want to find a job elsewhere than having spent 5 years at EA is valuable. they boast because gaming development is so hard to find a job in due to oversaturated amount of people applying for the position. this happens in every company. if you said something bad about a company you work for like walmart your going to get fired.

[@SqueakierEel]

Ubisoft is both a Developer and Publisher, in this games instance, only one. However they are one of the fewer companies that will take contracts like this from Disney because, their own games kinda stink, due to you guessed it, the exact same reason.

[@Gray-om1bj]

​@@RememberHisLove That is so incredibly shallow minded. To the grunts who actually make it, It's not about how a game is sold, it's purely a passion driven field. To get to work on something as in depth as triple A titles is a career highlight and people who pour their heart out into their work are proud of it even if it's something they don't personally enjoy... Publishers capitalize on this passion, dick. That's why it's common for artists and devs to be underpaid in places like that; they get taken advantage of. Do better mf

[@ELEMENETAL]

Okay, still thank you GfB for making me have 89273981 heart attacks triggered because of cuteness.

[@TheRealWalterClements]

People really be paying $60 extra for a couple of hats and an exclusive side-mission.

[@GoodOldGamer]

They wouldn't do this if consumers wouldn't let them. Stop preordering!

[@tric5122]

also stop buying anything other than the base game. no dlc's, no "Gold" or "ultimate" additions.

[@endgangwars]

Im actually at Baldur's Gate right now. He let me past the gate and we talked for a while. Baldur is a really polite dude

[@PowerUPFantasy]

Not really polite, more like manipulative, I heard he killed his lover

[@MrSonicGuy3765]

THIS IS WHY I WARNED SEGA ABOUT SONIC ORIGINS ARRGGHHH (not literally)

[@elanjoyify]

I used to get games for 6 pounds at cex

[@prsingh1484]

Same 😂😂😂

[@SuyashDaundkar]

Ah yes, the golden days...

[@monkeygivingthefinger]

i still do

[@gangasathish2972]

I literally do it now also 😂

[@thegwynbleidd4202]

You still can. There are incredible modern indie and AA games that are on sale for less than 15$. Gaming is better than ever.

[@HeavenOnHigh]

The message from BG3 is "Remember games pre internet era? We do. Here is a taste. Ps, new free update, balls swing realistically now"

[@yaboye3791]

"In the upcoming update, you will become the bear in the scene"

[@Frogboyaidan]

Lol

[@size15shoeswinkwink]

Unironically, the Hutts would approve of this practice!

[@sethstorm]

Actually the worst part of this is the 3 days of Early Access that you get they wiped your save file right before the game like released for everyone else so you didn't even really get to benefit from it

[@tombkingsethbattlechannel9419]

To their defense: All 3 Editions are equally bugged

[@Allah_का_बाप]

😂😂😂😂

[@chad-bin-sigma]

Santamonica studios: we'll give you real life collectables for limited edition AND launch a free dlc

[@platinumgames1314]

Ghost ship studios: we'll give you this completely free season event and any cosmetics you don't get can be found by just playing the game

[@tree2378]

Baldurs gate and helldivers 2 have set amazing standards fort AAA games and I love to see it.

[@NAUploads]

​@@tree2378helldivers? Isn't that just a mindless third person shooter?

[@ProxMackintosh]

@@tree2378 HD2 is AA lol

[@RicksClips420]

​@@NAUploads it's definitely more than that but I think he meant on helldiver's 2 they allow you to earn the micro transaction currency in game and the currency itself is actually fairly priced plus you get a free warbond to progress through by just playing.

[@szymonh8772]

"We, at ubisoft..." -oh, no you don't buddy, no you don't.

[@mssanguine3839]

Also eldenring was $60 and the dlc was $40. Thats $100 for an immersive souls game with great lore, gameplay, pvp, fun, multiplayer, incredible bosses, incredible story, creative storytelling, horror, and a dlc that gives all of that and a bit more with fun weapon ideas and different playstyles