How Gunmakers Tweak Rifles to Get Around Assault Weapon Bans | WSJ

California has tried three times to ban what lawmakers call assault weapons. Each time, gunmakers have made tiny tweaks to the offending rifles, and gun shops have continued selling guns that operate nearly identically to the banned models. WSJ explains how guns have evolved in the state, and why it can be difficult to make firearm restrictions effective.
Photo: Michael Kofsky/Andria Chamberlin for The Wall Street Journal
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[@robertjohn8711]

This is possible because lawmakers don’t understand what they’re trying to ban.

[@Wooster77]

Or they're paid off by gun makers to recommend easily by-passable safety modifications to their fellow politicians.

[@samuelmajka4804]

Wooster if that were true then those laws wouldn’t exist in the first place. Gun manufactures would stand to gain far more profit from an absence of gun laws.

[@Touj-jp2dt]

@@samuelmajka4804 Businesses often lobby to change the language used in documents such as this, I expect that is what he meant.

[@mixtermuxter8602]

I never understood this "dicking around" with cosmetic features. Any Semi-automatic gun can be easily converted to full-auto with stuff like a drill, crank, electric motor, bump stock, wind-up spring or whatever. The only way to restrict the potential firepower, is to ban all semi-auto rifles (max barrel length + caliber) . ...like seriously the "non removable mag" is probably just one little plastic pin you would have to file off

[@AP-yx1mm]

Should they ban the function rather than structure?

[@ACGBLR]

Wrong, the San Bernardino had someone else buy the rifles, this a straw man purchase which is illegal.

[@Formerlytrouserttrout]

They forgot to mention that the perpetrators were muslim extremists also

[@jameskirkpatrick5569]

@nrawayne im offended as a left wing extremist I want everyone to have guns. Left wing does not equate to dem or liberal

[@ctgslayer]

James Kirkpatrick well if you want everybody to have guns yet vote left then you’re a hypocrite, I’m sorry to say.

[@jameskirkpatrick5569]

@@ctgslayer who said anything about voting? 🤔

[@ctgslayer]

James Kirkpatrick if you don’t vote then you’re not really trying to protect anybody’s rights anyway.

[@happywombat]

I wanna give credit to all these weapon manufactures for always coming up with new and creative ways to keep their products in compliance with all these ridiculous gun laws that helps no one.

[@aauwhatitdo1582]

This is why I am willing to pay so much for a rifle. That R&D is top notch lol. If only the guys making these loopholes were in charge of making actual weapons of war for the DoD. My Marine career would be so much more fun lol.

[@karnubawax]

Exactly. Who says American ingenuity is dead?

[@certainpointofview3860]

Look up ar-maglock lol it will blow your mind. The effort put in for a simple reload

[@ledzeppelin1212]

"Ridiculous gun laws that helps no one." It helps out the criminals by making it harder for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves! But I agree, it's awesome that these manufacturers just design around it 😄.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@aauwhatitdo1582 I mean, they already are. Who do you think makes weapons for the DoD? Colt, H&K, FN, SIG, etc.

[@freddysmash]

“Pistol grip and flash suppressor makes a weapon more dangerous” 😂 you got to be kidding me.

[@Tottleminerftw]

I know

[@DarkZerol]

Probably their definition of "dangerous" in a sense that you can more easily "conceal" your shot. This is basically the same thing that happened with the Striker-12 despite being functionally no different than any other semi-auto shotty that already existed.

[@nuclearTANK]

My nuts are dangerous

[@boyscout1824]

I don’t think they know what there talking about

[@lazycyberdog4746]

Yea idk people pretend they know things

[@meubj2]

Alternative title, “How gun makers comply with Stupid laws that have no affect”

[@spencerlane2871]

Effect*

[@connorsimpson338]

Erich Averette or how gun maker give the finger to California

[@xMasterShake9x]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@MountainMace]

Literally

[@danielgrages4125]

Shaloam Nenja • 12 years ago No. incorrect. Spencer Lane’s correction was good. An “Effect” is a noun for a change. When he says it “wouldn’t have an effect,” he’s saying it won’t make a difference, or it won’t make a change. Affect is almost exclusively used as a verb.

[@thephotoviper]

Basically, their logic is if it looks scary, it must be banned....

[@sealandgi8724]

Look up the Striker 12. That’s exactly what happened.

[@Proud_Sex_Dungeon_Owner]

If that's the case wouldn't drug queens be banned?

[@boom350ph]

Ah those csgo or pubg skins will proven usefull

[@stylin60es]

Funny, the gov hasn't banned my mother in law 😳😂

[@joejose8433]

But wait a minute if it's illegal in California what the f*** do the police need them for if it's illegal then it's illegal in the police should not be having them game wardens prison guards especially in California because those guard towers they definitely need more rounds because when there's a fight in the yard somebody going to get shot in the car is going to need more than one round they don't give out warning shots when the fight break out

[@jrchevy2500]

I'm pretty sure killing is already illegal. So if that law doesn't stop the killing, why would any other law stop the killing?

[@takingu2skoo]

Words of wisdom.

[@dannydevito2275]

If you showed this comment to a gun grabber they would fall on the ground and flail like a dying robot

[@HaloDude557]

No it’s so the DOJ doesn’t shoot your dog, children, and wife, then ruin your entire life by making you a felon and draining your bank account with legal fees, all for exercising your 2A right.

[@s.sterling6685]

hmm... funny... the very same law but indeed did stop killing from gun use in australia... very interesting indeed

[@dannydevito2275]

@@s.sterling6685 the crime rates were going down at a near identical rate plus there was a spike in crime right after the law was passed

[@xeronicus]

"How lawmakers get around the 2nd amendment by tweaking their pens"

[@tonyc.4528]

That's exactly my thought...I fear that worse is about to come.

[@JockNmystyle-]

This!

[@judsongaiden9878]

"Law-MONGERS" is more like it.

[@emeraldlight4727]

Cannot take American rights away it is part of the constitution besides we the people decide what we want or not want because the constitution if for the people and by the people, do not let them tell you other wise!

[@ironyinc3453]

California: these features are too dangerous. Gun sellers: remove features California: YOUR EXPLOITING A LOOPHOLE!

[@milkyyanks765]

They gonna take your guns

[@ironyinc3453]

@@milkyyanks765 good thing I don’t live in California

[@samuelfreeman2181]

@@milkyyanks765 never ---- shall not be infringed

[@thespiralgamer5374]

@@ironyinc3453 Texas is the most free state

[@ironyinc3453]

@@thespiralgamer5374 tell me something I don’t know

[@average_psyop_enjoyer]

30 seconds in and already shows WSJ knows nothing about what they are talking about

[@uclajd]

First 10 seconds. The bottom rifle is considered an assault weapon in California, illegal to sell (pistol grip).

[@aesthetics1255]

@@uclajd Thats incorrect, you obviously dont know what you're talking about either.

[@uclajd]

@@aesthetics1255 Yes I do know what I am talking about: oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

[@Shadowslayer347]

Iced not wrong in California that is an illegal weapon because of the piston grip, go to any gun store in California and you will see they have flaps on the grips so they won’t be consider pistol grips.

[@kevinmarrett9532]

@@Shadowslayer347 it's only illegal if you don't have a fixed magazine. Later in the video, that same rifle is shown as having the Hellfighter kit installed. Meaning it has a fixed magazine.

[@jyk000]

Its not because gun owners are nefarious, its because lawmakers are passing laws that don't mean anything

[@world-traveler880]

Just ban all guns Just like in Europe and every sane country

[@world-traveler880]

@Unknown Orrer corporations already do you shitlord. You are a corporate slave.

[@SimonR141]

@@world-traveler880 Nope, Many countries in Europe allow civilian own guns as same as American like AR-15, handguns but with firearm permit.​

[@Crazy727King]

rainy-day-blues yeah you’re right just ban them and nobody will have them look how well that worked with drugs

[@world-traveler880]

@@PutinOnTheRitz no open carry, they aren't idiots over there

[@hannesthurnherr7478]

Youre not "driving slower". youre "getting around the speed limit"

[@Schlabbeflicker]

Car drivers found they could simply drive one MPH BELOW the speed limit and get around the speed limit law. Lawmakers tried to close this loophole by dropping the speed limit another 10 MPH, because surely nobody would be able to drive cars then, right?

[@kennyleung2001]

double speak !

[@coolcat498]

Its more like limiting engine size or some engine characteristics to reduce speeding

[@cyber4053]

Alternative title: “how companies adapt their products to abide by the arbitrary laws of California”

[@betafishjeremy7454]

Alternative title "how gun companies bend the knee and dont stand up for the second amendment"

[@herberthidalgojr.5855]

Tyrannical*

[@RichardLionheart12]

Banning Semi automatic rifle and removing from shops saves life as no one will purchase it.

[@obiesunstreak2409]

Could it be, perhaps that CA needs to be forced to start obeying the constitution and the laws of the country?

[@deaddad6310]

Yes please. I'm in this hellhole. My battle rifle is an SKS for christ sake!

[@hunteraltman4762]

@@deaddad6310 RIP, I'd just leave that communist country

[@jason127x99]

Obie Sunstreak Supreme Court needs to slap Commiefornia a new one! Totally unconstitutional!

[@dannydevito2275]

@@deaddad6310 I am here aswell let us join forces to holt the communists

[@xFirestormerX]

@@deaddad6310 Honestly I'd just move to a better state. But while you live in California, I live in Canada. You better believe I'm moving

[@solidstream13]

They are not “getting around” a ban they are complying with the law.

[@David_Quinn1995]

its just that

[@ledzeppelin1212]

Good point haha.

[@JaguarSeraph]

"How people drive cars by getting around restrictions on driving by getting a drivers license"

[@showtime1235]

So true it hurts

[@tomw.6511]

It's not to "get around," it's to comply with these goofball regulations.

[@chipskind7]

Tom W. Yeah this title is horrifically biased lol

[@ironraccoon3536]

It's like trying to slap someone from 20 feet away then going "Stop dodging!"

[@CommissarKozlov]

@@TheGoodCrusader Don't buy cheap guns. You get what you pay for.

[@urboyseth5922]

@SicSemperEvelloMortemTyrannis TyrannyEnder The AR-15 my dad got for 350 bucks ran better than some people who bought S&W ones and nice ones. The one we got functions reliably and perfectly. I love it.

[@davidrepreza7781]

Tom W. Complying in CA would’ve had me registering my AR as an AW. Changing my configuration is not complying.

[@rileyhaynes2515]

"Gun dealers say this counts as disassembly of the firearm action." That's because it is. I've never seen or heard of an AR-15 that is disassembled in a different way.

[@musicalDrebin]

"the bullets going just as fast" the most irrelevant thing I've heard in a while. this is the guy the consulted on for the video

[@83athom]

And even then it is him trying to spin points made by people who think the gun laws are stupidity as somehow trying to show how 'guns are bad'.

[@NDN_FTR]

He doesn't realize you can have a bolt action rifle in .223/5.56 and a 20in barrel that will fire even faster.

[@fujifilm5127]

@@NDN_FTR yeah bit it doesnt look as spwooky scawy tactical

[@youdontknowwhoiam4349]

He’s saying that the current gun restrictions are pointless in reducing how deadly a firearm is. It’s not just some vague statement about how guns work or something.

[@teddysurf]

Do you know what else is going just as fast… cars… They’ve done nothing about the “car death epidemic” no one’s talking about it, even though it kills more people… because people like their cars.

[@cxreyk2681]

“Detachable magazine” So like most of the guns that just simply exist💁‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@andrewnwokocha]

cxreyk not most. Virtually every modern gun of this day

[@cxreyk2681]

Andrew Nwokocha fr😂

[@TacticalSavages]

Except for revolvers, repeaters, pump action shotguns etc.

[@acetech8642]

@@TacticalSavages There are pump actions with magazines.............

[@captainjam6651]

@@TacticalSavages repeaters can have detachable box mags, and the cylinder in a revolver can be detachable essentially making it a detachable magazine

[@brantkim]

The sad thing about banning features is that most of the features make the gun more ergonomic and safer to use. Ejecting a loaded magazine on a gun with the push of a button is far safer than having to disassemble the gun with a loaded magazine.

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

CA: Passes law Manufacturers: comply CA: *confused drooling* b-b-b-b-b-but-but-but they can't do that!

[@TheReligiousLeft]

Lol please tell me how a pistol grip and flash hider make a rifle “especially dangerous”

[@lukez597]

@@noegmad what if the deaf person is turned around...... its over?

[@PorWik]

@@lukez597 sucks to be them

[@lukez597]

@@PorWik thats why these bans suck. Hurt majority

[@airdusterenjoyer]

@@noegmad cant tell if thats a joke or if you were just a special ed kid

[@JTurn916]

@@noegmad I live in California and sadly I could see a California politician using your joke as their actual logic lol.

[@mattbrown9484]

They aren’t ‘getting around laws’ they are complying with them.

[@erth2man]

When a gun manufacturer produces a product that is compliant with new and ridiculous regulations, why is this considered a loophole? Back when a car maker put seat belts as required in new cars years ago, was that an act of compliance or where they simply exploiting a loophole so they could continue to sell cars?

[@Fireclaws10]

Erth Mann it’s complying with the letter not the spirit of the law.

[@tylerkong4940]

Rochyan you don’t have to comply with the spirit of the law. “Assault rifle” laws don’t stop anything

[@erth2man]

@@Fireclaws10 What exactly was the "spirit of the law" Rochyan, please inform us? Was it a ridiculous attempt to ban the manufacture of Americas most popular sporting rifle? To do that the left would have to ban all semiautomatic rifles, the type that have been in common use for well over 80 years of which there are tens of millions long in circulation. To outlaw purely cosmetic features like a "pistol grip" or a "flash suppressor" claiming them to be more deadly or unsafe proves only that these lawmakers are not only laughable but totally unqualified to be tampering with our constitutional rights.

[@baneofbanes]

Michal Nazareth That’s a load of bull.

[@TheHylianJuggalo]

@Michal Nazareth And I'm sure you also believe that "silencers" work like they do in movies where if I'm using one, you can't even hear it, right? Because the Flash of the gun is the last thing I'm going to be paying attention to. If I'm face-to-face with the shooter I'm going to be using my eyes to pay attention of my surroundings and if I'm not I'm going to be using my ears to pay attention to the direction of the shots. Your concern about miniscule details like the flash of a weapon making it harder for someone to see is about as effective as turning on your headlights in the middle of broad daylight while in a car.

[@hongyangjiang4976]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Albert Einstein

[@David_Quinn1995]

just goes to show those who are making gun laws couldn't tell you the difference between a 22 and a 223

[@TheLanden11]

Hey Wall Street Journal you should do a video on how the law makers of California keep getting around the Second amendment to make more gun laws.

[@mysticallight57]

Or make a video about how evil and crime will forever be present in a world that has never been perfect and how people need a tool for protection and self preservation. This would be an interesting and logical approach to WSJ's journalism.

[@-taz-]

I read a lot of great comments here, but this is my favorite one.

[@linkl_6641]

Infringement is not immunity from control

[@TheSBleeder]

"... to get around assault weapon bans" You misspelled "to comply with assault weapon bans".

[@joedoug3647]

Almost sounds like they are pushing some kind of agenda haha

[@bouncydachon]

@@joedoug3647almost, but they would never right? Right?

[@highwayxj9397]

“The bullets go just as fast” Shows than anti gunners no very little about guns. The gun doesn’t change the velocity of the bullet.

[@mightyslime4120]

Well barrel length would affect ballistics

[@ethanphilpot7643]

... He's literally just making a statement that the gun is still functionally the same

[@highwayxj9397]

@@mightyslime4120 anything over 3 inches, changes in velocity are dismal at best. Accuracy increases with barrel length

[@highwayxj9397]

@@ethanphilpot7643 functionally the same as any other semi auto gun. Why is this a problem? He talks as if we should modify it to slow the bullets down..

[@ethanphilpot7643]

@@highwayxj9397 maybe use this (honestly rather neutral) information to argue against assault weapons bans instead of immediately assuming ill intent? Because that sentence right there is salient and says a lot more about how ineffective the bans are rather than the guns themselves

[@1unkn0wn]

Better title: How: How the failure of gun control laws has proven there is no such thing as an "Assault Weapon".

[@thomas-of1mg]

Where is my mini chain saw attachment

[@joshuaingo3918]

creaTe CHanNEl 117 I had forgot about that

[@barnhousedesignspa9251]

And the fork, knife and spoon set. We should ban Swiss Army knives next

[@SkyNinja759]

Lancer from Gears of War when? If I could legally own one, I would. It would be cool.

[@darkshock42mlg05]

If only the lancer from gow was real.

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

A mountable 'ripper' in place of a bayonet would be funny. Heavy and hideously impractical though.

[@treydavis1699]

"The title should be how law makers infringe on your rights."

[@BoogalooBoy]

Literally the AR-15 has been in 0 wars. Every single Bolt action "hunting rifle" has been in many

[@Paul-ur5kc]

Yeah, I always thought it was a bit odd that a weapon built on the AR15 platform was a "weapon of war" when it never has, and isn't currently, been used in a war anywhere in the world and/or that no military in the world has ever or is currently using them. Politicians have been whittling away the law abiding citizen's 2nd amendment rights for almost 100 years. Soon it won't exist.

[@CommissarKozlov]

@@Paul-ur5kc A Remington 700 has seen more conflict than an AR-15.

[@mrtsosi]

The true reason they've got a hard-on for ARs is sinister. What other 'scary looking' gun is more widely owned in the US? If they can ban this gun, they know they can ban any.

[@jason127x99]

CommissarKozlov yep! They will call them evil sniper rifles next.

[@stinkbaitdawelder2964]

I say don’t sugarcoat it. Ar15’s are an effective weapon which can defend or offensive with great or devastating results and it should be 100% legal for a law abiding citizen to own with no need to justify to anyone why they own it.... I’m not fond of the argument of “it’s not as deadly as a full auto” just tell it like it is unapologetically ☺️

[@andrewwindtaker87]

Ca: Has a shooting. CaGOV: Bans some kind of gun part Ca: Has another shooting CaGOV: Bans some kind of a gun part Ca: Has another shooting CaGOV: Bans some other gun part.

[@kaku2189]

Ca: Dog sh*ts on sidewalk and leaves with it's owner. CaGov: let's ban another gun part. 🖊️ 📜

[@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown]

It’s a repeated cycle

[@gggg-hq4td]

@Mariooo Oh no! How can i shoot at this CROWD of people when i can't make out their faces clearly! Whatever shall i do!

[@dirkcunningham7]

Ban index fingers

[@derrek4991]

CAgov: *Bans guns entirely* CA: proceeds to use knives

[@Generik97]

The M16/M4 is an automatic rifle intended for the military. The AR15 is a semi-automatic rifle intended for civilans. They may look similar *BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.* Stop conflating these two, you have the natural right to defend yourself and in the US your lucky enough to have the constitutional right to own Firearms, other countries aren't so lucky to have such liberties and freedom. Don't take it for granted, the government isn't your friend.

[@chadfriesen6743]

Lol they don't know anything about guns. What makes a flash hider dangerous?

[@Ethan.Lamoureux]

Flash hiders are features of military-style weapons. To politicians whose knowledge of guns goes only as far as what they’ve seen in movies and on TV, anything that looks like a military weapon is scary and dangerous, more dangerous than benign looking (i.e. familiar) hunting rifles. These politicians think that if they can ban scary looking guns, they will be perceived as making the public safer, and thus be reëlected.

[@thedesertrat_9514]

Honestly flash hiders serve a purpose more for the shooter and not a human target. They’re meant to reduce the muzzle flash in a night time scenario so the shooter doesn’t jeopardize his vision. This is especially important for home invasions when visibility is poor and the eyes natural night vision are relied upon.

[@apathy1128]

It eliminates muzzle flash and recoil, makes your rifle completely silent, increases damage by 10x and auto heat seek onto targets when you deploy the shoulder thing that goes up

[@samuelmajka4804]

This is why you can’t ban certain gun types: manufacturers will always find a way around the regs. Also, can someone tell me why a flash hider or a pistol grip is dangerous.

[@stelachris]

Bc somebody's mommy said so.

[@brunokitano3506]

I want to know it too

[@odolwa099]

Flash gives a shooter's position away and thus makes it easier for the cops to hit them. Forward grip gives extra stability and improves accuracy, which translates into more innocents being gunned down.

[@christiandegges1663]

@@odolwa099 A pistol grip is not the same as a forward grip.

[@SexyMexiChili]

Odolwa Aztec you obliviously don’t know how weapons work or the purpose for their “features”. Take a weapons safety course. Educate yourself.

[@innadesertDOTjpg]

What part of "Shall not be infringed" does the government not understand?

[@BlahBlahYaga]

If lawmakers here in California actually bothered to focus on real issues that impact us like gangs, homeless & cost of living, we’d be the most productive & prosperous state in this great country.

[@judsongaiden9878]

"Law-MONGERS" is more like it.

[@dadecountyriders]

💯

[@BigMamaJama]

You get what you voted for 👏🏻 👏🏻

[@brian92822]

Nothing quite like modifying a constitutionally protected product so that it complies with arbitrary & capricious state-level regulations

[@man-uk8cz]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

[@michaelborough330]

amen brother

[@2010ngojo]

Tries to comply with laws 'that's a loophole! You trying to skirt the laws!'

[@on2wheels378]

You general public can't buy a assault rifle in the US... Misleading heading... Even calling 'assault style' is misleading... 'Assault style' even implies it's an assault weapon. An assault weapon can fire semi-auto, full-auto, or burst mode, either with all three or two of the functions I just mentioned... None of the rifles shown can fire either burst, or full auto. So it's just a semi auto rifle not 'assault style.'

[@Yugetubes]

Assault weapon is not even an actual gun term. It's made up nonsense.

[@on2wheels378]

@@Yugetubes Sorry to break it to you, the German's in WWII coined the term and it stuck in English (Assault Rifle). The German's created the Sturmgewehr 44 (STG 44, Assault Rifle 44 in English) which some say Kalashnikov copied...

[@Yugetubes]

@@on2wheels378 Sorry to break it to you. Select fire rifles are commonly referred to as assault rifles. Assault weapon is a made up term used by people who don't know anything about firearms.

[@on2wheels378]

@@Yugetubes Sorry man, I misread your comment... I was on the train and you know that is. I thought you wrote 'assault rfile' wasn't a made up term. But we who know what they are and you're right about 'assault style' term... My bad...

[@IAmSavSolo]

Im just glad we all see what they are doing. Sucks it feels like no amount of voting can stop both of these parties from pushing us into a fascist dictatorship. The left means no harm throwing around the term "socialism", but in a big way its dumb. It scares right wingers and certain types of thinkers. They then respond by putting in the opposite. A dictator. The dictator comes because the people want a strongman to save them from a system aiming to control them, but strongmen are selfish. He wont give the guns back. He will then use our powerlessness against us while he reigns terror on the world. And thats how both parties are destroying Earth. What have we allowed......

[@dwatts64]

"How Gunmakers Bend Over Backwards and Take Great Care to Ensure They Aren't Breaking the Law." - there, I fixed your title for you.

[@danki2000daniel]

This looks like a reason NOT to ban these rifles .

[@Yugetubes]

There is no reason to ban any type of rifle.

[@why33-00]

@@Yugetubes yes there is, Safe act compliant or California compliant rifles should be banned. There should be no ban on features and if you have monster man grip or a fin grip you should be laughed at.

[@retro93277]

Daniel Harvey IV there is no reason to baby anything because by banning them does not mean they will go away. There are to many in the whole USA to make them go away and there are over hundreds of thousands being manufactured every single day .

[@johnmccormick8159]

What is an assault weapon? If you do not know the definition of something, you very literally don't know what you're talking about.

[@doomtomb3]

It's completely bogus. A firearm is a firearm. A weapon is anything that can be used to inflict bodily harm. An assault weapon is anything that can be used to attack someone with the intention of inflicting bodily harm. What turns something into an assault weapon is how it is being wielded, not the object itself.

[@zzzanon]

Amen

[@dennisp8520]

@@doomtomb3 preach

[@henryzhao4622]

Food for thought: aren't Nuclear weapons firearms? Laser rifles? I'm finding lots of commies here thinking the 2nd amendment doesn't protect nukes. USA = FREEDOM.

[@Komodo_seeking]

Do you sell mayonnaise?

[@kwinzman]

The real issue is trying to ban them in the first place.

[@definitlynotbenlente7671]

It would not be nesesairy if their was a lisence requirement but since that is inpossible they have to play wack a mole with manufacturers

[@kwinzman]

@@definitlynotbenlente7671 They don't have to play wack a mole with manufacturers and they should not attempt. And a law quickly runs into the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association constitutional limit but it may take years until it's through the courts. If anything lawmakers should look to strengthen the liability protection of manufacturers against frivolous damage lawsuits that keep popping up recently. #notlegaladvice

[@JaguarSeraph]

"How Gunmakers comply with the rule of law of Assault Weapons Bans"

[@gdat5838]

If the government can own it, I can own it too. SHALL NOT

[@pantera29palms]

Having to use a “bullet” to release the mag may be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard in my life…

[@ThatGuy-te9wh]

"which is why we had to use a photo" Maybe go outside the f*ckin state.

[@wendull811]

Lol I laughed way to hard at this.

[@bench175]

Everybody: Um, I'm following the law. WSJ: Yeah, we're gonna call that a loophole.

[@thebadlander3608]

10 seconds into the video and we’ve ALREADY gone wrong

[@agent_seb]

"Loophole": noun- a form of compliance with the law that those against the second amendment disagree with

[@jose1231434]

3:28 “then they illegally altered” so the laws that were in place at the time of the shooting did nothing..... so whats the point of making “stricter gun law”? a pistol grip and adjustable stocks etc. aren’t evil there ergonomic having nothing to do with a the way a weapon operates. I don’t understand people thought’s they want to ban objects that “kill people” like a gun, but isn’t alcohol in a sense “killing” people, in fact in those people’s words alcohol has resulted in 3 times as many deaths than guns and I’ve never heard anyone say we should regulate how much alcohol people should consume. People should used logic, not emotions when seeing laws that are trying to be passed. Cuz in the end your making law biding citizen’s that are forced to follow theses law give away a their essential right that is vital to ensure freedom in this great nation.

[@wendull811]

They tried doing that and of course it failed because no one followed the law. Same thing needs to happen here except it is to late because it has been going on for far to long.

[@will9357]

Technically, we do regulate how much alcohol people consume, just not *all* people in all situations or locations. We regulate people under 21 consuming alcohol, and drivers, mandatory closing times for bars, laws against public drunkenness or drinking in public, dry counties, and other blue laws, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending those regulations, except when it comes to drunk driving, but we do *selectively* regulate alcohol consumption.

[@kodydejong5911]

“If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

[@maxgorden499]

Both guns have grips, triggers and barrels....?

[@nicolasreed21]

They both have spooky military style pistol grips and evil flash suppressors that "make the gun particularly dangerous"

[@youlikethat7119]

You can aim more accurately and shoot a greater distance with a rifle compared to a handgun.

[@clearskiesmovieproject4685]

@@youlikethat7119 And??? 90% of shootings happen with handguns....

[@louisryan5815]

@@youlikethat7119 but you can't move as comfortably in close quarters areas like narrow hallways. All guns are tools for the same purpose, and sometimes they simply work better in different circumstances. Comparing rifles and pistols is like comparing hammers and screw-drivers.

[@lilpuro2152]

You Like That! Yeah but most shootings happen at a pretty close range, even with a pistol grip, shooting at range is ineffective and will get them kills.

[@gangatalishis]

These controls laws are so dumb because anyone wanting to cause massive harm will just modify the weapon. I understand not wanting people with a history of violence or mental illness to have access to fire arms, but with these laws you just make it more annoying for the average person to use. And some of these laws are so dumb like how does a pistol grip and flash suppressor make a gun more deadly, is there data backing this up?

[@jessegpresley]

More people are struck by lightning in California than are killed by all types of rifles combined.

[@AbioticSquare0]

We HAD an “Assault Weapon” ban before for 10 years and if you look at the statistics there was no affect in crime, and ever since it expired gun related deaths (not including suicides by firearms) went down dramatically. Most shootings and “mass shootings” happen with handguns (7,105 crimes by 2016 with handguns). I’m not saying mass shooting/shootings/suicides don’t happen or they’re not tragic cause they do happen and they’re horrible.

[@mythicraichu3730]

“AR-15 style rifle” lol

[@redneck96100]

What is so funny about proper terms

[@louisryan5815]

@@redneck96100 I don't really know what's proper about it

[@redneck96100]

@@louisryan5815 AR-15 style rifle is a rifle based on the AR-15 design, but is not made by Colt.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

​@@redneck96100 when they say style it sounds like cosmetic which is said to be 100% legal from the modifications list which also contradicts itself cuz it can't be an "any other weapon" which just means it Has To Look Like a Firearm, Ar-15 based sounds more proper but it's like saying Toyota Supra cars should be banned cuz they are fast but I6 engines are not exclusive to the toyota brand or model it is just a logo or band to existing designs every gun maker can achieve but in better or worse means. & really a lot of militaries around the world don't even use the AR-15 based pattern & up to its full capabilities cuz it really sucks Americans are so old school that we hold on to dated tech it is only mentioned as the worst gun cuz it is popular only in the U.S. & people do attention grabbing things w/ it which is what they want! don't give them what they want! ever since that mass shooting happened in that one high school where the shooter made a doom map of the school that same school has been getting shot up since cuz people see the news & than they want to be famous (infamous) they look up to the shooters now, one killed his dad & shot up the same school. people need help

[@hinglemccringleberry8193]

redneck96100 the funny thing about that is you just said “but not made by colt” which I find hilarious because the ar-15 wasn’t made by colt. More proof that the people making these “laws” have no clue what they are talking about.

[@28ebdh3udnav]

"Then illegally altered" That itself shows that criminals don't care about law...

[@enriquealonso6351]

God bless the 2nd. God bless America

[@maxrequisite]

@@paulg6527 can you even give an example if a mass shooting done with an assault rifle?

[@maxrequisite]

@@paulg6527 and to answer your question, it's to defend against the government and groups of people who want to do harn to you.

[@mahatma_gandalf]

"Somebody was shot yesterday." "Oh no! That's awful!" "Yeah. The shooter used an AR15." "OH NO! THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!!"

[@Notsofunnyman217]

We should find ways to make it harder and if possible for criminals to not get their hands on guns

[@conch.7232]

@@Notsofunnyman217. Without affecting the civilian market.

[@Notsofunnyman217]

@@conch.7232 of course

[@neimi_ramg]

@@Notsofunnyman217 how you gonna stop that if before the crime there's no Criminal?

[@Notsofunnyman217]

@@neimi_ramg I said we gotta find ways and so far I got nothing good

[@simonegentili4571]

"This is an AR-15" **Shows an M16**

[@Immortalkalashnikov]

The receiver looks like it doesn't have the "fun" switch. So that is most likely a picture of an AR15.

[@ethanolive6731]

Love how the CA lawmakers try to make it hard for law abiding citizens to easily operate a firearm. Even though criminals can easily just modify them.

[@mikehoncho7534]

Wouldn’t it be easier just to ban people that kill people Take the problem head-on Otherwise it’s kind of like doing a ban on spare tires To reduce drunk driving accidents

[@melutox]

As a European I've always been fascinated with the way US lawmakers in states like CA always find a way to not solve the problem by implementing unnecessary restrictions on what is essentially a human issue, not a weapons issue. If someone is determined to go out and shoot people it doesn't matter if they can't even get a gun (they will probably get one illegally or manufacture a homemade firearm,) or that they can only get a gun that is "restricted" by these laws -- they will go out and shoot people regardless. The issue is that these problems are inherently about the criminals themselves and how and why they operate, not about the weapons they use to commit said crimes. When will lawmakers finally realize it's not about the gun, but the person using it? What a waste of taxpayer money and resources fighting a completely useless battle.

[@hollyh00d12]

Hmmm they are getting around the legislation and, "assault weapons" are still almost never used in crimes. It's almost as if the laws are just to burden law abiding gun owners and restrict their rights.

[@MJScoutArchMar]

Right on

[@ScooterMcAwesomeness]

Happening up here too (Canada) Justin Trudeau is trying to ban all firearms for civilian ownership. First it was "assault style", then it was handguns. DO NOT LET THE GOVERNMENT TAKE YOUR RIGHTS TO PERSONAL SELF-DEFENCE.

[@hunteraltman4762]

I'm surprised there's even a comments section at this point.

[@sethrockwood]

My favorite part of this video is that the wsj seems to believe that AR-15s in every state besides California, still look like Vietnam era AR-15s.

[@susanjbrown4389]

Particularly the verbiage “Classic Colt AR-15 “ 😂 😂 so because Armalite had a great product, but our government couldn’t wrap their head around it, they sell to Colt, and now it’s a “Classic Colt Armalite-15” lol 😂

[@nra4ever2011]

rare journalist W. the old SP1s were peak. need an A1 clone eventually

[@canilernproto3018]

Also known as, seller of a product makes changes to their product to be compliant with local laws.

[@dragojuice8716]

0:26 I see California has also outlawed left-handed firearms, too dangerous.

[@milkyyanks765]

Really?

[@Gmanhenejen]

California lawmakers also said child trafficking isn't a serious felony

[@dantrack1563]

So guns laws don't work. I've been saying that years

[@floyddog2283]

“They have a lot in common” Mmm yes the trigger, grip, and barrel are unique to AR-15’s

[@Redwolf-ld3dv]

They literally are just complying with the law. It’s not a loophole

[@rtv8066]

Lol "it shoots just the same as a normal ar15 the bullet is going just as fast." A bolt action chambered in 5.56/.223 shoots "just the same" as well. Pistol grips and other cosmetic features have nothing to do with what the bullet does.

[@geraldholtzclaw1761]

Through out this whole video you never once mentioned holding the perpetrator responsible. The gun did not talk the shooter into doing any of these horrible crimes. Personal responsibility is something that is overlooked in all these gun bans.

[@jackbeecher8718]

The law bans pistol grips on semi-automatic rifles. It does not ban pistol grips on bolt action rifles. The law is an attempt to restrict semi-automatic firearms.

[@Pwade21]

Here I was thinking the fast moving projectiles were what made guns dangerous.

[@outdoored.ccydecker4746]

Phillip Reynolds 4:51 “ it’s the same as a regular AR 15 in the bullet is going just as fast” what an idiot bet he wouldn’t know the difference between a 223 platform or a 308 platform if it was explained to him!

[@CommissarKozlov]

Many of these idiots think foregrips, for example, somehow make a gun more dangerous.

[@justinhamrick2449]

More people die from motor vehicles 🚗 we should ban all cars!!!!!

[@MichaelEGriesbaum]

More people die from heart disease, ban all unhealthy foods!

[@ViperPlaysMC]

cancer kills more people, we should ban cancer!!

[@DootNeon]

More people die from cigarettes and alcohol... WE SHOULD BAN ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTES

[@a.t6066]

People die from other people, we should ban people!

[@mistermini2283]

More people die to old age we should ban time

[@musikSkool]

Loopholes. There will always be loopholes. You can't ban criminals from committing crimes.

[@siphonius1278]

It's almost as if implementing gun control doesn't actually stop criminals. Hmmmmm.

[@BitcoinMotorist]

It's like trying to make driving safer by banning racing stripe paint on cars

[@leopapio683]

You can tell who ever is the reporter, or wrote this knows nothing about guns. Weapon attachments does not make a weapon lethal, heck even a full auto doesn't make it more lethal. What makes a weapon more lethal is training and knowledge of the weapon your using.

[@andreww2194]

If you have a flash hider police will take longer to find you so you have more time to kill people,not needing to press the trigger for every bullet also increases the numbers of people you can kill

[@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown]

@@andreww2194 No. A flash hider reduces the flash so the shooter can see. You can still see the muzzle flash. A flash hider is not a suppressor.

[@acries3148]

Should be reporting how unconstitutional these gun laws are.

[@jamessimmons7480]

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE STILL DON'T REALIZE THAT ALL THAT GUN LAWS EVER DO IS MAKE IT HARDER FOR HONEST PEOPLE TO BE SAFE------- NOT CRIMINALS!!!!!!

[@RatherCrunchyMuffin]

Pistol grips are not what make AR-15s dangerous. Neither are the birdcages at the end of the muzzle. Lawmakers simply don't know what it is they're trying to ban, hence arbitrary rules result in arbitrary workarounds

[@hunted7883]

I like how people are trying to take the easy way out of fixing the problem instead of working on the reason as to why the person is shooting a public place up

[@woodchuckcider1]

This video reminded me, I almost forgot to install that new pistol grip and new flash hider I bought the other day for my AR. Thanks WSJ!

[@lolz6337]

I ain’t gonna lie them gun companies are really innovative and just shows how stupid the law makers are and have little knowledge of guns

[@ryanecho1]

Those tweaks are called complying. Yet somehow it's not good enough, so you go back to get a rifle banned because it looks like another weapon, but functions like most firearms. The look doesn't make it more dangerous.

[@popsscapepopscollar6403]

1:28 make the weapons more dangerous? What is this nonsense?

[@Taylosh545]

According to fbi crime report for 2019 Handguns killed roughly 6000 Rifles killed roughly 300 Knives killed roughly 1400 Fists/Feet killed roughly 600

[@ShadowRaptor8]

You'd think politicians would applaud the great lengths and inconvenience people go through to ensure they are compliant with these new arbitrary laws, rather than condemn these changes.

[@outdoored.ccydecker4746]

4:51 “ it’s the same as a regular AR 15 and the bullet is going just as fast” what an idiot bet he wouldn’t know the difference between a 223 platform or a 308 platform if it was explained to him!

[@CRaschNET]

There should be no bans.

[@Narwhaloffate]

"I can't shoot up school because my gun is illegal" - said no school shooter ever

[@qsisson]

Oh man it’s so excruciatingly hard to cross into Nevada and buy a regular Ar-15 then bring it home to cali. Man these people are so fear mongered it’s hilarious 😂.

[@canilernproto3018]

Government: makes it illegal to drive without seatbelt. Citizen: Responds by making small changes to continue driving that style of car in the state.

[@brendanr1525]

If we were going by TWJ's horribly prejudiced and dishonest titling, it should read: "Citizen circumvents seatbelt law by tweaking car to include seatbelts."