How Humanity Became Strong - A Weightlifting Story

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@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
I was a competitive Olympic lifter from the late 60s through the mid-80s (with a few breaks in between) and, since 1961 when I first began weightlifting at age10, I have been a student of both the history of weightlifting and of current competitions. In all these 63 years, this is the most detailed and ALSO the most comprehensive and overarching compilation that I have ever seen, tracking the progress of the sport, viewed through the prism of the one particular discipline within the sport as a whole that is arguably its best representative single aspect, to wit: -the King of the LIfts. Thank you for producing this sorely needed outstanding, meticulously researched and prepared, high academic standard piece of work. I greatly encourage you to consider doing similar works on the snatch and, especially, on the evolution of the press.
@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
@@ddwfw A completely understandable and well-warranted inquiry. Among the three traditional Olympic lifts, the press is something of a special case, insomuch as the execution of the lift(and the training methods that went with it) dramatically evolved over the course of many decades from a rigidly strict, self-restrained, (even artificially slow steady vertical movement of an elevator), into eventually an explosive, total body quick lift, as dynamic as the snatch and clean and jerk. However, at all times, during its evolution, the power clean & standing press inherently remained a supreme test of overall "head-to-toe" basic body strength, including in combination with basic explosive body power, even more so than the clean & jerk. As proof of this, I would offer the observation that, after the press was eliminated from competition in 1972 and was foolishly dropped from training regimens, lifters experienced problems for years thereafter with the overhead part of their clean & jerks due to a lack of arm, shoulder, and, very importantly, core TORSO strength, attributes which had been fully developed during the "press" era. We still see vestiges of this problem in the performances of some lifters even today, although the problem has generally been resolved with the re-introduction of pressing and push-pressing movements back into training regimens.
@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
P. S. A great example of the ultimate in explosive total body pressing action, is Serge Redding's 1971 Lima, Peru Worlds 502 lbs. press lift (which can readily be found on KZbin). Notwithstanding the squat clean aspect in his performance, which, of course, was perfectly legal, and in those days almost all superheavyweights needed to resort to in order to properly set up the press portion of their clean & press attempt, Redding's effort demonstrates the tremendous overall body power that the "quick lift" variation of the press developed in and was demonstrated by the athlete. There was and is simply nothing else that demands such overall "head-to-toe" body power, not even the clean & jerk
@vintagelifts
@vintagelifts 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words James, glad you liked the video!
@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
​@@ddwfw I would be interested to know which combat sport you're involved with. As a free-style wrestler, I always found there to be a direct correlation between my power clean & standing press and my strength/power performance on the mat against my opponents. Indeed, I could almost guess what my opponents could press by their level of resistance to me on the mat. My clean/press level gave me great strength & explosiveness particularly in the standing collar/biceps tie-up position and in the referee's position (both in resisting and in executing break-down moves in the bottom and top positions, respectively.) In high school I wrestled in the 133lbs. class and had a maximum single standing press of 215 lbs and C & J of about 240 lbs.- at least during the off-season months. I wrestled an opponent as strong as me just once, and he was another Olympic lifter who could press 210 lbs. Just to add to your coach's observations, the standing press develops not only shoulder strength but also great torso strength as the back, abdomen, and hip area act as a stabilizer and support foundation, especially during a strong press drive. (The strong press drive is the essential difference between the "slow" military press movement and what came to be known as an "Olympic press" movement. See Redding 502 video as a prime example of this explosive drive action.) My lifetime best standing power clean & press was 281 lbs.(127.5 Kg) on an Olympic bar and 270lbs.(122.5 kg.) on a 5-foot home exercise bar. My best power clean was exactly 300 lbs. (on an Olympic bar). All of these lifts were done at a bodyweight of between 148 and 155 lbs. at ages 23-24. My best competition C & J was 310 lbs., 1974 CT state and New England records. Best training squat clean & jerk reached 330 lbs. (150 kg.) with NO DRUG USAGE AT ANY TIME. I also used to deadlift 500lbs. for a set of 10 reps on a regular basis. Today I can only look back and wonder how my body was able to sustain such hard training and recover so quickly.
@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
@@ddwfw Start doing your presses, not from the rack, but from the floor with a power clean to set up the press. After doing the power clean & press together as a single exercise for a while, you will feel your whole body coiled and ready to "spring" underneath you while the bar is on your shoulders ready to press upward. Eventually you will get the feel of "driving" the bar explosively off your shoulder girdle but WITHOUT bending or using your legs to drive the press movement. The legs should remain locked, while the upper body and torso conveys energy into the press drive as you bend your back moderately during the press to get the bar past the "sticking point.". You don't need to clean for each and every press rep when you are doing multiple rep sets in the press, only power clean for the first rep, then just continue with the press reps until the set is done. However, since you have been doing your presses off the rack, you may want to do only single reps in the power clean and press for a while until your cleaning ability increases enough to match your pressing ability. As a guide, you should aim for the goal of at least being able to solidly power clean whatever weight you are able to press for a maximum single. You will find that this clean & press training will aid your contact sport even more. I was a wrestler and found almost a direct correlation between my clean & press and my applicable strength and power on the mat, such that I could almost guess how much my opponents could press by their ability to offer resistance to me on the mat. Look at the Serge Redding 502 lbs. KZbin video as an example of the explosive Olympic press. NOTE: In Redding's case, the clean is a squat clean, not a power clean, as is almost always employed in a standard clean and Jerk, During the press era, the heavyweight lifters, such as Redding, often had trouble power cleaning the maximum weights that they were able to press.
@lewispovey13
@lewispovey13 5 ай бұрын
Breaking the 200kg barrier in sunglasses is wild
@jameswaugh8339
@jameswaugh8339 5 ай бұрын
Yuri must have bedazzled the Jury.
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 5 ай бұрын
@@jameswaugh8339 Jury must have bedazzled the Yuri.
@ludwighoijer
@ludwighoijer 5 ай бұрын
One of the best videos about weightlifting ever.
@bougieweightlifting
@bougieweightlifting 5 ай бұрын
1:02:52 that Taranenko jerk was actually 265.5 . It was a national record: after Friendship Cup ‘84, IWF disallowed Soviet Championships from counting internationally. Friendship Cups still counted for 4 more years
@bougieweightlifting
@bougieweightlifting 5 ай бұрын
49:33 super weird rule that went into effect. Pisarenko only needed 245 to win, but in those days, if you took a 2.5kg jump between your 1st and 2nd attempt, you forfeited your third. In other words, he took a 5kg jump to ensure he could get a third attempt. My guess is that this rule was dropped sometime between 1984 and 1988.
@xgamermudkip7154
@xgamermudkip7154 5 ай бұрын
Liked before watching gang
@o-neil
@o-neil 5 ай бұрын
41:03 this is one of my favourite attempts ever. So cool
@o-neil
@o-neil 5 ай бұрын
This video also really puts into perspective how crazy it was
@SomeSeriousWeight
@SomeSeriousWeight 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing!!
@o-neil
@o-neil 5 ай бұрын
Phenomenal video, i hope it gets the recognition it deserves
@daviddeppa122
@daviddeppa122 5 ай бұрын
The narrator of this superb video, sounds just like the Strong Man Historian....
@gabrielpichorim8191
@gabrielpichorim8191 5 ай бұрын
Holy fuck what a great video. Plz make one for both the clean and press and for the snatch!!
@rohitf117
@rohitf117 4 ай бұрын
Awesome video compilation of Weightlifting history. Thank you for your valuable contribution 🙏
@JimTheThe
@JimTheThe 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff man! This is awesome
@GonzoDuke
@GonzoDuke 5 ай бұрын
Great vid dude! This deservers a billion views.
@theicemanhaslanded
@theicemanhaslanded 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for dedicating the time and effort to make this. Incredible all the footage you have been able to find ❤ 💪
@michaellopez2070
@michaellopez2070 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video. It's refreshing and appreciated that you use actual footage and original commentary vs. ai trash that's pumped out by a lot of channels.
@o-neil
@o-neil 4 ай бұрын
I keep returning to this video, I'm glad it's slowly racking up more views!
@richardjones3826
@richardjones3826 4 ай бұрын
Magic pure magic, glued to my seat watching, i missed Taranenko lifting in Cardiff which was a bitter pill to swollow as i,m from Cardiff. Juhaptergee
@willhowe8434
@willhowe8434 5 ай бұрын
very interesting well made video mate
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin 5 ай бұрын
I see alexeev, I click
@triplehbkundertaker1
@triplehbkundertaker1 5 ай бұрын
You are the best man
@samarthur1847
@samarthur1847 5 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you 😊
@DrLeroyArch
@DrLeroyArch 4 ай бұрын
Rigoulot's 182.5 C&J was not made on a standard Olympic bar. He used a longer bar with more whip.
@o-neil
@o-neil 5 ай бұрын
God damn this is a long video, can't wait to watch this!
@Keranu
@Keranu 5 ай бұрын
Awesome documentary, you did a fantastic job. Though I am sad Ken Patera wasn't mentioned.
@BuJammy
@BuJammy 5 ай бұрын
I met Alexiev in 1995. It's quite a story.
@22448824
@22448824 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Just fantastic.
@MrXave007
@MrXave007 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Vidéo !!! Amazing !
@stevenkicinski9619
@stevenkicinski9619 5 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 5 ай бұрын
Well you sure got a thumbs up as soon as I saw Pocket Hercules 💪💪
@johnspartan98
@johnspartan98 4 ай бұрын
Great. DO a documentary on powerlifting next.
@Healthiswealth78392
@Healthiswealth78392 Ай бұрын
Waiting for the Naim documentary!
@alastairfraser8177
@alastairfraser8177 5 ай бұрын
Well made documentary
@rfjohns4452
@rfjohns4452 4 ай бұрын
As a longtime follower of strength now a senior early records were laughable as men in factories,longshoreman erc had superior strength over results in Olympics "The Super Athletes"published in 1969( available online used )clearly summarized the amazing strength of the past. .
@joaodias2003
@joaodias2003 21 күн бұрын
Your Sinclair list no longer opens on instagram could you fix it ?
@jglg7238
@jglg7238 4 ай бұрын
that thumbnail though
@C-R-A-C-K-E-R
@C-R-A-C-K-E-R 5 ай бұрын
Maybe I didn't listen carefuly, but when and why was the 4th attempt for WR removed?
@matthewpalmer-jones9186
@matthewpalmer-jones9186 5 ай бұрын
13:30
@mattday9201
@mattday9201 5 ай бұрын
Who was the first to squat clean?
@22448824
@22448824 5 ай бұрын
I’m goi going for Tommy Kono. Or maybe Ike Berger?
@Tom-V
@Tom-V 5 ай бұрын
👍
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 4 ай бұрын
W🎉
@lephtovermeet
@lephtovermeet 5 ай бұрын
I was incredibly good at the jerk and clean in highschool.
@gwgiagal5065
@gwgiagal5065 5 ай бұрын
🏋️🏋️❤❤
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 4 ай бұрын
W
@DrLeroyArch
@DrLeroyArch 4 ай бұрын
Bednarski, not Bernardski.
@22448824
@22448824 5 ай бұрын
Alexeyev’s achievements can’t be overestimated. Considering his relatively small size compared to nowadays plus the fact that he just looked like a fat guy, that 255.5 jerk is outstanding.
@rfjohns4452
@rfjohns4452 4 ай бұрын
Physically Alexeev wasn't as impressive as his weight (160kg) was in stomach.I meet up close starting in late 1975.He was a joker but always gave the impression of being gruff. For sheer size also saw Ken Patera 1972 weight 160+ Zabotinski I saw in the late 1970s weighing 180+kg dressed in a custom suit.
@rfjohns4452
@rfjohns4452 4 ай бұрын
Bruce Wilhelm US Olympic Lifter and 1st World's Strongest Man 1977 also said he jerked behind the neck 600 lbs.
@Zihark_
@Zihark_ 5 ай бұрын
That thumbnail has me cracking up lol. It looks like he's wearing a little girl's tank top 😂😂 I'd hate to see what it was attempting to cover down below. Someone needed to get that man a bigger singlet.
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 5 ай бұрын
It's funny listening to you say Anderson clean and jerked but he kept strict pressing and push pressing
@vin5388
@vin5388 4 ай бұрын
As a child of the cold war , no one was cooler than Alekseyev.
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 4 ай бұрын
Regen
@dansmith9724
@dansmith9724 5 ай бұрын
With talk of the enhanced games, do we think weightlifting records will be broken and broken by alot??? Interesting video.
@22448824
@22448824 5 ай бұрын
Current records yes. All time? That’s a different story. Drug testing and pandering to the Olympics has destroyed weightlifting
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 5 ай бұрын
Walterphilipp
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 5 ай бұрын
His name is Launceston Elliot, not Elliot Launceston!
@Epidian
@Epidian 4 ай бұрын
And he couldn't even pronounce it. This video is cack for loadsa reasons.
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 4 ай бұрын
Deutsch
@Celtokee
@Celtokee 4 ай бұрын
The military press is a better indicator of strength than the jerk. Serge Reding could out-press Alekseev, and I suspect that's the reason they removed the military press from the Olympic lifts. Iy was political, as is so much in the Olympics. Paul Anderson, well past his prime, could also out-press Alekseev, and in fact embarassed him at the end of one meet. Anderson, just a spectator, walked out in his street clothes, no warm-up, and flat-pressed the bar that Alekseev had just cleaned and jerked.
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled 4 ай бұрын
Actually Olympic weightlifting is not really about strength, so they are not really the strongest as they don't lift to move heavy weight using pure strength. Their strength is just a side effect of moving heavy weight. They mostly rely on their CNS. Powerlifters are the strongest because it's about lifting mostly using strength. While Olympic lifters are very strong they mostly rely on neural drive which is about utilizing their CNS to its fullest potential. The fact is it could be said that Olympic weightlifting is the only true powerlifting. It's about snapping that barbell right above your head using your whole body. Powerlifting as we know it is really about pure strength, although they do utilize neural drive to start the lift. In powerlifters CNS is not what moves weight from point A to point B. It's mostly about muscular strength. It doesn't matter how fast they move a bar as long as they move it. And Strongmen competition is not just about strength but also muscular endurance. Lifting a set of Atlas stones in a timed event requires both strength and muscular endurance and cardiovascular endurance. Endurance comes at the expense of strength.
@Epidian
@Epidian 4 ай бұрын
So what about AR lifting then?
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled
@myhandlehasbeenmishandled 4 ай бұрын
@@Epidian sorry not familiar with it. I googled it and the only thing I could find is augmented reality training. Is that it?
@straycatsam7963
@straycatsam7963 4 ай бұрын
"In powerlifters CNS is not what moves weight from point A to point B?" 😅 Hmmm...without your brain and spinal cord (CNS) you ain't moving 💩 from point A to point B. Overall, my friend, I do recognize your effort in explaining all the nuances.
@CoolGobyFish
@CoolGobyFish 4 ай бұрын
@@straycatsam7963 yes, stregnth is all about neurons firing at the same time. that's why muscle size is not an indication of strength
@straycatsam7963
@straycatsam7963 4 ай бұрын
@@CoolGobyFish Hello, my friend! I do believe "Myhandle" probably knows when it comes to powerlifting and Olympic lifting the CNS is equally in charge. Sometimes we get to texting and tend not to give ourselves a 2nd draft. It happens to me a lot in my daily life, since I'm labeled "Stupido" to my family members speakin' 6 languages or living the high life in Vegas! Now, as I suspect you know, that neurons play a part like muscle fibers and Dr. Mike Isreal knows what else! And mostly muscle SIZE "is" an indicator of more strength...but not always. I remember when I was much much younger I assumed I'd always have lighting quick gains on my bench. I maintained a lean physique up until I hit a bench max of 365 lb. These were back in the days when legendary Larry Pacifico was still lifting! Of course I didn't wear a suit or take any steroids, but for me to push past 400 lbs I had to get bigger. Bigger muscles (yes, relative strength nose dived) accomplished those goals. A bigger stomach, too! The fatter the waistline the shorter the bench bar path! But, still, my larger muscles were stronger in an absolute measure. Good lifting, my friend.
@AnandDeonarine
@AnandDeonarine 5 ай бұрын
Eugene saxon .
@AnandDeonarine
@AnandDeonarine 5 ай бұрын
John saxon and eugene sandow
@22448824
@22448824 5 ай бұрын
Arthur Saxon. The mother of my youngest boy named him Saxon Arthur. Pure coincidence but it amused me.
@Thelionfan11
@Thelionfan11 5 ай бұрын
You mean when humanity started using steroids .. right ??
@hmuhmunkunkuapua
@hmuhmunkunkuapua 5 ай бұрын
chemerkin's 272.5 is the greatest failed attempt ever
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 4 ай бұрын
Regen
@katharinahiebel1488
@katharinahiebel1488 5 ай бұрын
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