How Hunting A Serial Killer Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider

Mark Williams-Thomas is a former police detective and a multi-award-winning investigative reporter. He is well known for working on investigations, including the "Yorkshire Ripper" Peter Sutcliffe. Williams-Thomas speaks with Insider about special investigative techniques and common issues in the process.
Williams-Thomas is the author of “Hunting Killers” and has starred in television programs and crime series looking at cold case murders and violent crimes, such as “The Investigator: A British Crime Story” on Netflix. He’s reported on crime stories including Jimmy Savile, Oscar Pistorius, and the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
Find out more: www.williams-thomas.co.uk
“Hunting Killers”: www.williams-thomas.co.uk/hun...
Chapter 1: The Killer Mindset 00:40 - 03:11
Chapter 2: Gathering Evidence 03:12 - 06:02
Chapter 3: Tracking Suspects 06:03 - 08:30
Chapter 4: The Apprehension 08:31 - 09:47
Chapter 5: The Interview 09:48 - 12:02
Chapter 6: The Wrong Man 12:03 - 13:22
Chapter 7: The Convictions 13:23 - 15:41
Chapter 8: The Aftermath 15:42 - 17:39
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[@1shotlegend]

From what I'm gathering from the comment section. "Dude talks about ego while having a big ego". He's being interviewed about a topic he knows well, at the same time he's talking about his credentials to show validity to the viewer about his experience. Pretty basic stuff.

[@LOLHICRONO]

the average youtube commenter is a bit...special

[@jackwalker9492]

From a guy whose screen name is LEGEND! LMAO

[@healthyb-fu5zd]

This guy is a prick. Everyone can see it.

[@corydinsmore1333]

Lame.

[@MichaelMcCann98]

@@LOLHICRONOthe projection is real with this one

[@nathanwilliams4974]

I don't understand all the hate. This guy was fantastic to listen to. I especially appreciated how he talked about police fixating on an individual and trying to fit evidence to that narrative.

[@albal20051]

He sold names of suspects to newspapers, he asked for money in return for interviews regarding Jimmy Saville and he took money from Michelle Mone to make an "investigation" defending her and her husband stealing millions from the NHS. He is a disgrace.

[@newgabe09]

Yes, as happened with the Yorkshire Ripper.

[@oblivious-owl6914]

I'm glad that you went out of your way to say that the traits society has associated with serial killers- narcissism, sociopathy, etc- don't make someone a serial killer or evil. People are way too quick to link traits with being a horrible person when most people are just plain people

[@bigphatwalrus102]

Narcissists and phychopaths are at best unpleasant to be around

[@nivyan]

Anecdotal, but I grew up in a high-middle class family and met many rich men and women during my childhood. If you're the owner of a company over a certain size, you can't succeed without being a psychopath - it's literally a requirement, or you won't be able to cut the same corners and make the same business decisions that's available to the others.

[@Just.Kidding]

@@nivyan that's so not true dude, the ability to divorce decision making from emotion doesn't meant you _have no_ emotions. That's just a good skill for anybody to have. And it's doubly untrue because not every company cuts every possible corner. It's one thing to say it's a general help and another thing completely to talk in such extremes.

[@nivyan]

​@@Just.Kidding I'm talking more influential than that - to the point separating decisions from your emotions/life is impossible, and doing so would be the definition of a psychopath. That's the point. I'm not saying everyone is like this - that'd be an idiotic assumption - but they *need* people like that in certain positions, or have such vast success that it doesn't matter to begin with.

[@Unknowngfyjoh]

It's because everyone thinks they're an expert because they watch True Crime shows.

[@dracolithe4450]

My friend's brother is a a detective for the Metropolitan police and he has been left with PTSD, terrible mood swings. He once had a crossbow pointed at his head as he had to talk someone down. It's an oppresive job to do

[@guineapigshavetakenovermyl6602]

thanks to him and his work for our safety

[@GamesCooky]

The risk of developing PTSD is much bigger among police officers. The sort of stuff they have to deal with is going to take a toll on their mental health. The police get a lot of criticism, and not enough appreciation.

[@nobodyatallvallejo3672]

11:30 compared to those JCS clone interrogation videos where like a suspect blinks and the narrator is like "here the suspect blinks which indicates that he's feeling the stress of lying. Most people blink on a regular basis, but it's incriminating that the suspect chose to blink at this time to deceive the interrogator."

[@johnwhyte1488]

It is now a well established fact that no one single ‘negative’ indication of body language during interview/interrogation is indicative of deception.

[@AverageNerd8]

Yeah plus you can be nervous when answering questions it does not mean your lying imagine being on the hot seat and being interrogated it causes all such of things plus you can have some signs of lying but not actually Lying that's why they need knowledgeable not just these "detectives"

[@lo0nyt0onz]

There are variables for interrogation. Alot of training in psychology helps in determining what body language says and what they say. They use purposeful techniques to provoke reactions. Not everything means something, but some things are Indicators. I think JCS goes overboard some times with every detail but overall their trying to get Information from somebody that dosent want to give it. So its accurate and real at least

[@reasonablyskeptical]

good on him for telling people body language "expertise" is bullshit

[@malcs286]

The hate in this comment section is so undeserved, yeah he didn’t need to bring up that he was a sports captain or whatever but you can’t honestly say that detracted from his insight on serial killers. The guy’s an expert at what he does and he’s answering every question he gets asked in great detail.

[@flyingpiggie979]

“Evidence is key for me” I would hope so…

[@unholy1771]

You have no idea how many cops pride themselves in their "intuition"

[@booker0110]

Taken out of context. He was explaining how the police get fixated on a hunch. Maybe you skipped that, didn’t get that?

[@ickess]

What’s really funny is I hear so much about serial killers in the US that it almost sounds foreign to hear about them in other countries.

[@blksheep176]

Foreign literally means other countries, so that’s probably why

[@HauntedOne666]

There are lots of them in other countries though lmao

[@ickess]

@@blksheep176 yeah, thought about saying no pun intended but decided against it haha

[@austinduke8876]

​@@ryanodonnell455 You think the US has 3.3 million active serial killers? The actual number is much closer to 50.

[@hansolowe19]

Maybe it's lead? 🤔

[@ayaqmasak264]

When he said "no one intimidate me", that's some aura right there

[@sarahrosen4985]

Watch the interviews with the British female prison head. She's amazing and also says that no one intimates her.

[@kimnoir]

A lot of people are talking saying this guy being interviewed but lets not forget that this is chopped and edited. The producers also ask some specifically wordered questions.

[@marshallteach9006]

At the end he's saying "it's not about me" but the video is full of "I did this", "I made that connection", "the police got it wrong but I didn't", I can't say I sensed humility from him during this interview.

[@stuungar3390]

Agree 100% with both of you, this bloke is really bad at profiling and common sense. Good thing he's now a journalist frontman as opposed to being a real detective

[@LudiCrust.]

The best cops & detectives are the ones with similar traits to the criminals themselves. I studied criminal psychology in college and wrote my thesis on this subject. The best example I can think of for you to compare is the undercover cops that infiltrate gangs & organized crime. If you’re a regular Joe you are not going to be able to blend in with type A personality biker gang members etc. -no one is that good of an actor. You’d show fear/anxiety etc. and your body would betray you never mind the entire psych aspect.

[@damienholland9432]

So people can't talk to you about their accomplishments because then they're not humble?

[@stuungar3390]

@Damien Holland - he was dissing the police force as being incompetent, and inferring that he knew it all, when it was the other way around. People who are talented, tend not to boast.

[@marshallteach9006]

@@damienholland9432 All I can say is that I've watched dozen of videos like this one and he's the first expert that I find arrogant. There's no "we" in his stories, it's like he did it all by himself, and he only mentions the work of others in order to criticize it and make himself look better.

[@Deady4u]

I think that serial killers just don't deserve to be put back into society and society doesn't deserve to have monsters lurking amongst them

[@bahatch94]

ever seen no country for old men? flip a coin...

[@Lord_Sully]

Who does think that they should be put back into society? Lol not in America anyway

[@NithinJune]

tf why 😂

[@NithinJune]

the governments role is not punitive it is rehabilitative. The states job isn’t to punish people it’s not make them better

[@Lord_Sully]

@NithinJune prisons main role is to keep society safe from criminals and crime.... like serial killers.

[@nicholasdumon5579]

I hope friends & families of the victims effected by cases getting colder and colder find some sense of understanding how detectives go about there investigation whether it be here or an other authoritative source.

[@clownhands]

*affected

[@nicholasdumon5579]

@@clownhands could both homonyms suffice context?

[@rasputin924]

0:23 Kinda amazed that you guys know about Chikatillo, notorious serial killer in the USSR (the first one to be actually convicted of it, if I remember correctly), love this channel, cheers!

[@ronblack7870]

these days he would be in wagner

[@Zip_yermouth]

If anyone is interested in the topic, I highly recommend Eric Hickey's Serial Killers and their Victims. It was the core book for my lectures in Criminal Psychology. Easy read, very understandable.

[@ScoobyDoozy]

Legend, thanks for the recommendation mate!

[@guitarslim56]

It's not a video.

[@PalmelaHanderson]

I know there's a criminal justice definition of a "serial killer," but I think there is also an additional colloquial qualification of a serial killer - that a serial killer does not kill for profit or practicality (at least as a primary motive). They kill out of compulsion or desire. The reason I think that qualification is useful is that it distinguishes what most people picture when they hear "serial killer" vs. people like gangsters or hitmen who have killed dozens of people, but only ever killed out of anger, for profit, or to protect themselves (in their own minds). Sammy Gravano confessed to 19 murders as a mafia hitman, but no one would refer to him as a serial killer. If you ask 1000 people to describe a serial killer, none of them are going to think of the gangster. They're going to think of the person who kills because of compulsion or desire. Someone who doesn't really gain anything from the crime, they just do it because they like it or feel compelled to do it.

[@topsuperseven7910]

Yes but this is also a problem when a distinction is made where there is no difference in criminality. You are speaking like far too many today around 'motive and feelings' as if these matter the most to society or even matter at all. One night a woman is murdered by a man who simply wanted to see he felt anything thrilling and didn't feel a thing. Across town a woman was murdered over a drug debt but not to somehow get the money back but to see if her death struck fearful compliance into other debtors. What our society needs to worry about is that either man, both men, they have crossed a line into criminal murder. That they walk around and can and would do such a thing if they so desire. and here is something to consider. years ago I was watching one of these reality show 'follow along with cops' shows like '48 hours' or whatever it was. - police respond to two dead bodies outside a gas station in a notoriously dangerous neighborhood in a US inner-city. Someone has shot dead a prostitute and a pimp in cold blood and it quickly leads to notorious 'bloodcrip' gang member Tyrone 'Ratchet' Williams. Ohhhh he is quite a suspect. Ratchet, 38 has spent 17 of his 20 adult years in and out of prison including kidnapping women, attempted murder of a woman, manslaughter of a woman and wait there's more, not only is he officially known to have killed two women but Ratchet is strongly linked to the murder of no less than 5 others in the Bloodcrip drug wars and revenge and gangland world. The ONLY reason they caught Ratchet was because witnesses in 'The Hood' started tipping off police (rare very rare) as they said Ratchet had gone so crazy that everyone was terrified of him now. Even the gang was disassociating with him because and he was killing anyone. In this case, the reason why he murdered the two? They had 'disrespected him'. This was mentioned by several blurred out witnesses and calls that they all knew he'd killed that woman earlier that month because she didn't want him to be her pimp and he didn't like that. Ratchet is strongly believed to have killed 15 people over his 38 years of living. The episode wraps up with a slam-dunk conviction of 3 murders and ongoing investigations and charges on several more. Here's my question: Why isn't Ratchet Williams considered a "Serial Killer" like any other? Why not? What is the difference and more than that, what is the difference to our people, our society, to the public? What's the difference to public safety? If your answer is just sorting out little twists of his feelings and what psychological motives he wrestled with then that's just not as important as to what they actually do.

[@Cretan1000]

This sounds bad, but I think there should be a distinction made between people who are in the game and those who aren't. If you are heavily involved in the mafia and you get murdered over business, I don't think it should be punished the same as being murdered randomly. Everyone in the game knows the risks and choses to accept them for money.

[@topsuperseven7910]

@@Cretan1000 why wouldn't tehre be a harsher penalty for those who have a premeditated murder threat and even worse they murder each other for money and business. Why, if anything, isn't that even worse than a random passion driven murder? Even worse, they actually think they could supersede murder laws and make their own above-the-law rules in their own separatist justice system? Why not even more penalty for that? and all of that only covers the idea of 'punishment and penalty' i understand 90% of the internet thinks prisons or death penalty or only for punishments instead of the practical point of not letting them be at large in public spaces but if you're only talking penalty then I don't see why the Mafia mobster isn't, arguably, deserving more of a penalty?

[@zatannazatara552]

this is such an insane thing to say because why on earth should it matter that one was paid and one wasn't? The act of taking a life, a fellow human regardless of how justified and/or logical you believe the motive is still an act that profoundly changes a person for the worse. Mafia members despite whatever fantasy you'd like to believe, kill for pleasure, they enjoy it, they enjoy exerting their power and their dominance over someone, they are serial killers, the serial there is important. You wanting there to be a distinction and other people in this thread going...oh my god yes you're in the game so you know the rules all that means is that you have sympathy for one type of victim and not the other. And that's a very very dangerous road to go down, put down the Godfather book, turn off Narcos realise they are all as bad as the other. Sammy Gravano is a serial killer btw he's just not a famous one, or rather he's not famous for being one but i bet the families of the people he killed would describe him the same way Ted Bundy's victims did, merciless, cruel, sadistic and evil.

[@KaladinVegapunk]

​@@zatannazatara552pretty sure they aren't making a moral judgement or saying one isn't as bad..they're purely talking classification. The hitmen and mob killer absolutely is just as brutal and horrific, it's just not the same motivation and category of killer.. obviously.

[@ellemarr7234]

I try to watch everything featuring Mark Williams-Thomas. Thanks for this upload 🙏

[@mammamiia08]

"Do they intimidate me? No. No one intimidates me." 👀

[@isaactl]

Huge lie.

[@booker0110]

@@isaactlno. I know people who can’t be intimidated.

[@tonyd9067]

JCS would be proud

[@TeatroGrotesco]

JCVD might be proud as well.

[@nm7358]

Except that the guy argues that people like JCS are crap, because it's all in hindsight. All this body language stuff is rubbish.

[@UriahElroy666]

Who's JCS?

[@aislingsibeallyons3416]

​@@UriahElroy666 Jim can't swim it's a famous KZbin channel

[@user-hu8fn2jp5v]

​@@nm7358 ive always thought it was rubbis, but its still entertaining

[@Green28142814]

People aren't all monsters, but all monsters are people. It's a complicated world.

[@tyrannosaurusflex3698]

Yep. The world is only a bad place because of bad people.

[@mattenten]

So deep

[@TheLilikprasaja]

Scooby doo amen to that

[@shaggyfeng9110]

Simple math problem...

[@zaneplatt3533]

I find it so funny when people try to sound cool by writing nonsensical statements like this. 😂

[@onlyme219]

Fascinating and very frightening

[@anna.augustinova]

Every time there was a new chapter and the sound of tape played, to me it sounded more like a chainsaw and given the topic of the video, I always imagined a guy using that saw to kill someone.😬

[@alcapone1486]

If there was a "I'm all about show off" competition, this guy would be a gold, silver, and bronze medals holder.

[@clubbizarre]

So there is narcissism. He might be a serial killer himself.

[@oneontumetse7900]

@@clubbizarrethis comment made me laugh lol

[@Julia-lk8jn]

​@@clubbizarre overused term. Just pointing out your own achievements isn't even close to making somebody a narcissist.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

Looks like that at first, but I think the editing has a lot to do with it. There are a lot of very short sound bites going "I did this" or "My work was instrumental in ..." . But those are spliced in, maybe because whoever cut them in wanted for him to look more impressive. I'm the bits where his answers are left to speak for himself, he comes across very differently: focused on the process much more and on his own part in it mich less.

[@eugenechun4140]

How do you know it's not an act?

[@meu02136]

My man talking about ego after saying no one in the world intimidates him

[@danitho]

Yeah .... There's so much about him that's pretty sus ngl lol

[@mammamiia08]

I think there's something about some people become good investigators by being able to think like the criminals they investigate. They understand them. I think this guy is one of them. Might be why he can give some creep vibes, but the strong difference is that he made different choices and knew right from wrong. Edit: I wrote this before I got to the part where he talks about his mental health. I'm more convinced now that he's one of those who can understand serial killers and to be able to do that but still have empathy, that must take a heavy toll on anyone. With his bad mental health and the knowledge/stories he got from the worst of the worst - no wonder he talks like the world is resting on his shoulders!

[@danitho]

@@mammamiia08 Only correction: we *hope* he's made the choice to do the right thing. I don't think he's the type to commit a crime, but there are cops and investigators who are also criminals.

[@HauntedOne666]

​@mammamiia08 lmao hes not gonna be a killer he just understands it well and everyone is human and has similarities.

[@HauntedOne666]

​@@danitho has he been convicted or charged with anything ?

[@marycahill546]

Very interesting information. Thank you.

[@reallyvictor]

Thank you for that first statement he made, peoppe overuse and miss-use the term serial killer. There is spree killers, mass murderers, etc. and no one uses those terms, they think all SKs are the same by definition or by basic acts; it's deeps than that.

[@AC-ie8mt]

Thank you for your life long work. ❤

[@nightmrj]

my dad grew up in leeds and not only does he tell me stories of having to walk to collect my grandma and her sister from work as a young boy to protect them from the ripper but the park near his home eventually became the park that saville's house backed onto and he saw him when he was a kid multiple times

[@kevinsundelin8639]

The VCR OSD Mono font is cute, but what is it supposed to be counting?

[@jake5773]

"You can always get someone to talk." Suspect : "I want a lawyer." "You can almost always get someone to talk."

[@nm7358]

Not everywhere does it force the police to stop the interview, the US is not the whole world. In Canada you're given a phone to call a lawyer to get the legal advice you are entitled to, then brought back to the interrogation room and the interview continues. Same with the right to silence; the police can continue to question you, for hours even, despite you exercising your right to remain silent by stating you'll not answer to questions. You have to invoke it again and again until the police decides they are wasting their time.

[@shaggyfeng9110]

They would talk to you for hours till your lawyer show up. You think you can keep your cool and be silent for hours?

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@nm7358 you just proved his point about not getting everyone to talk

[@kameronjones7139]

​@@shaggyfeng9110do think it is torture or something? It isn't hard to not say anything

[@Lowlandlord]

@@kameronjones7139 And yet so many people do feel a need to say something, even when explained before hand they should say nothing.

[@darrenmurray861]

On the mental health front; coaching youth rugby has been amazing for my mental health.

[@OldestHouse]

such nice listening him talk!

[@nUmBskulLL]

"no one intimidates me" Ok dude 😂 calm down

[@erikab9604]

"No one intimidates me" And that....intimidates me 😂

[@markb.265]

Fix the sound pops

[@paulavance5096]

HOW is it legal to put tracking devices, listening and recording devices in someone's home or car or whatever? I have never thought it was right for any government official to lie, cheat, steal and do what could only be perceived to be corrupt if a civilian who isn't an employee of the government did the exact same thing.

[@SusanBryantInsomniacBookworm]

The police are allowed to lie to you.

[@paulavance5096]

@@SusanBryantInsomniacBookworm yes but my question was why or how is it legal for them to do so.

[@georgelane6350]

They need a warrant to do so. They can only do so if they reasonably suspect you are committing or have committed crimes and a judge signs off that the evidence that informs that suspicion is adequate

[@JoeyP946]

@@paulavance5096 well that's pretty simple, for example, if they lie in the interrogation room about having good evidence against you and they claim you'll go to prison for a long time, you might be more likely to co operate and give information. that's why there's only 1 word you should ever say to the police and that's "lawyer"

[@all3ykat79]

Maybe you would be able to recover some if you came here to New Zealand for a holiday...

[@rush1461]

top man

[@r4hulrosh4n]

Noted❤️

[@otw2fyb]

A lot of time luck has to do with catching predators for example the Yorkshire Ripper

[@aroundsound]

Touchies!

[@Sinn0100]

Interesting... we do have national databases here in the states that can be used to track crimes/suspects/ect. NCIC.

[@stuungar3390]

I highly recommend Pat Brown criminal profiler, she has a youtube channel

[@DumOne-fc5jb]

"We try to give a name to everything and I challenge that" ...then proceeds to give Sutcliffe a name and diagnosis for whats wrong with him

[@bechaupt865]

Many of Peter Sutcliffe's victims were not sex workers. Prejudice from the police on this was one of the reasons the investigation was so ineffective. If you want to learn about the PS case from someone who actually knows what they are talking about listen to the first season of the podcast Crime Analyst by Laura Richards. Her experience makes this ex-dectective look like a jumped up boy scout.

[@Brearo]

Yes we’ve all seen the ripper

[@elgatonegro1703]

Exactly. This chap obv means well and I wouldn’t want to drag him too much, but like ‘sophisticated profiling techniques’ were and remain a huge problem with the Sutcliffe investigation; surely one could see how wilfully naive you’d have to be to be like ‘yeah but that was before, now our sophisticated profiling is free from misogyny and super effective’

[@Brearo]

@@elgatonegro1703 he was not a Yorkshire ripper detective, he investigated him 25 years later when he already admitted murders, pretty easy to investigate a murderer who’s happy to admit everything ffs

[@georgelane6350]

To be fair, he said that the first five victims were sex workers, which is true. He then said that the police didn't believe that they had a real victim until the sixth victim, who was not a sex worker. That is him saying that the profiling was misogynistic: he is saying the Police didn't believe sex workers were full people and admonishing them for it.

[@conormurphy4328]

Hmm tracking and recording somebody as a private citizen sounds like it should be incredibly illegal

[@JoeyP946]

sounds like stalking and as far as I know stalkers never get stopped until it's too late

[@Kaice88]

the US criminal justice system isnt set up for restorative justice and I dont think they are even ready to hear that. we have a long way to go and even though this man works in the UK, its awesome to hear that people who are this aware work in these type of jobs. it restores some faith in some sort of criminal justice system.

[@monkeytennis8861]

The US justice system is utterly laughable

[@AverageNerd8]

On a side note one thing I have noticed is that if they have DNA they can convict off that if they don't have a time line or something else and that's why some people get charged unjustly

[@Just.Kidding]

Yeah the guy who opens up by saying "that guy was faking schizophrenia! I know it! It's impossible to be schizophrenic if you have psychopathy!" Isn't exactly the poster child for restorative justice

[@joshua6244]

He says you identify a suspect and then look for evidence to convict them. Isn't that the wrong way round and leading to wrongful conviction?

[@darthnihilus2729]

Man's a badass; talk's about connecting all these killers to various cases like it's nothing.

[@DaRadicalCavy]

Easy when they are dead or dying in prison lmao

[@HauntedOne666]

Serial killers dont kill random people even if they talk about them negatively

[@khurramkhurshed9427]

Interesting information

[@Aceofspades2006]

10:26 yes! So I’m 17 and have been analysing interviews for 4 years. And some I can’t, they are so bad!!

[@Gotrek7]

"I have no medical background, but I am absolutely sure he wasn't schizophrenic."

[@rowanmurphy4986]

Was looking for this comment

[@jamescallaghan6926]

Pretty cool dude

[@iippo06]

Restorative justice is a firing squad.

[@astaridjatmiko8187]

it must be nice to have a job where people perceive you as the way you are

[@zappababe8577]

16:36 Talking about the impact it had on his mental health, I've often thought that Police get to see the shitty side of humanity far more often than the rest of us. Not at all surprised that it had a very bad impact on his mental health. It's good that there are still people who want to go into the Police force, if I saw what he had to see on just one day of his job, it would probably destroy me mentally. I give massive respect to those strong and brave enough to do that job.

[@echorz]

Well thanks for the tips, good luck catching me!

[@sideoffries8389]

the Katy Perry meme at 6:58 💀

[@Heothbremel]

❤

[@DaydreamOrca]

Majora's Mask font on the title cards...

[@ajchurchill]

Audio is mastered way too low. Great content though

[@matthewmckever2312]

NOBODY INTIMIDATES ME.... Psychopath talk right there.

[@Dionysius21]

I dont think dna on a £5 note on a body is considered evidence in court. Money goes trough so many hands

[@georgiam.3957]

Saying that they lost so many cases by cross contamination, is so true and it's usually the cops fault cause they don't take as much caution as forensics experts. Cops responsible for crime scenes should be competent enough to do the job as many of them cannot stomach it and have often puked on crime scenes or contaminated the place by not wearing protection

[@mammamiia08]

When you have faced and talked with the worst of the worst, you talk like the world is resting on your shoulders 💔

[@michaelhealy3638]

Loves himself.

[@DaRadicalCavy]

It's really not hard to just... say you have no comment and not talk again once given Name, DOB and Address (legally if don't give these you can be held longer than 24 hours until a court determine who are and that isn't a good idea in any situation) and 9/10 times if they are interviewing you, they haven't got enough. Not always, obviously not always as some times the evidence is overwh but the cops are trying to figure out why or get a few smaller, but unnecessary pieces of the story together. Talking to police is the biggest mistake anyone can make

[@sarahbirdcage7814]

Talking about ego..how big is this man’s? When he exposed Jimmy Saville’s crimes, he was all over the news obviously but complimenting himself on what a good job he had done and that everyone should admire him because he good ex-police detective…me, me, me. Who’s the narcissist again!?

[@ongbonga9025]

He might be a narcissist or he might just be trying to promote himself so he can get TV work and sell books.

[@slumpmachinegaming]

I love it when people completely miss the point. This is an idiotic take lol. Edit: one person murders people routinely, and one stops serial killers. Am I wrong?

[@shaggyfeng9110]

Is there any other way to say what he said?

[@AzizDoufikar2280]

Ok can you suggest the "proper" way to tell his accomplishment

[@dabtican4953]

@@slumpmachinegaming What does your edit have to do with anything? No one refuted that he is responsible for putting some serial killers behind bars. He still comes off as rather narcissistic

[@usernextuser5385]

Thomas was born in 1970, so how could he work on the Ripper case who was caught in 1980.

[@mandowarrior123]

Attributing him to other unsolved murders

[@Alex632]

This guy is giving red flag after red flag. I sense a bit of narcissism from him.

[@monkeytennis8861]

In your qualified opinion

[@JPRK88]

Just a teeny tiny bit ...

[@THEBIGGESTSCUMBAG]

YOU HAVE TO BE IN ORDER TO BE GREAT AT SOMETHING

[@gavinhudson5251]

It probably takes one to know one. That's why he's successful.

[@stevieb3432]

Very interesting stuff. One thing that I have to say is that comparing the UK to the US is unfair and makes no sense. The UK is literally the size of maybe 2 states. I hear the argument all the time in debates, unless you are talking about the entirety of Europe, from the UK to Ukraine, compared to the US, the argument is invalid. Otherwise, great video.

[@Machote23]

Prim and proper Englishman. God I love the discipline the English so strongly embody.

[@Pe6ek]

So full of himself! Everyone is wrong but him! This is typical of intelligent people.

[@monkeytennis8861]

And typical of thick people like you that you make such nonsense claims

[@seungminwhatisyourproblem]

No its typical of the unintelligent.

[@JoeyP946]

a smart person knows how much he doesn't know..

[@oldkingcrow777]

I don't fully understand the literal definition of the serial killer thing. 3+ people over 30+ days? So basically anyone who kills 3 people in 10 years counts? And if you only kill 5 within a week and stop it doesn't count? Or 2 within 30 days? I know literal definitions often seem kind of arbitrary but are important for thr application of laws, but this one confuses me lol

[@ggmikebee]

It is somewhat arbitrary but there is some logic to it as a tool for ruling out crimes you don’t want in the statistics because they don’t really match what you mean by serial killers. Three people is just the threshold. You could imagine someone in a shitty position killing someone and even a second person by chance in their life due to different out bursts. But three is a long term pattern where they are seeking out people to kill. The reason why killing a bunch of people in a short period is not considered is much for the same reason. Serial killers are a specific type of killer. It involves compulsion and seeking out multiple victims, but if you include short time multiple victims then you muddy the stats with so called spree killers. These people may not be serial killers in the traditional sense. Maybe they snapped and murdered a bunch of people at a grocery store. Or maybe they are a school shooter. Or the guy who snapped and killed multiple police across serveral days in California. These people might be monsters but have you ever thought of a school shooter as a serial killer? So it’s more about making sure you are precise in order to filter down to what people are thinking about when talking about serial killers and get just those killer statistics.

[@CharlotteSunshine94]

I believe killing multiple people in a short space of time is a spree killer ?

[@Stardust12397]

Someone please create the database!!!!!

[@JuliaClark]

That someone is you.

[@Stardust12397]

@@JuliaClark no way..I have a light clear Aura...I can't be around that dark heaviness!!

[@JuliaClark]

@taraleela7144 , then ignore it and move on with your light aura. To ask another to do shadow work you will not do is abusive. To truly let go and let light is for none of this to exist within your timeline.

[@Stardust12397]

@@JuliaClark everyone has a strength, a talent, a set of strong skills. That's why we have HR specialists and career psychology profiling. My statement seems to have triggered you. Maybe it is your shadow and your work.

[@PNWGuitar]

Is this guy really arguing they could've caught Peter Sutcliffe with DNA in the 70s??

[@monkeytennis8861]

Did he? No, he didn't

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

Balls of solid rock, this feller here. Keep up the great work sir! Thank you

[@jfasuba495]

A highly evolved human...you are a beautiful person Mark. Everyone SHOULD want help society heal and move forward but only SOME actually do. You are an Inspiration. My Thanks to You

[@kemon3733]

Ego, yes he does. Effectiveness, yes he also does. I'd rather have an effective egotistical cop than an ineffective and humble cop.

[@AzizDoufikar2280]

True.People got mad in the comment section for his attitude and I don't know why.

[@Boristheborat]

Ego has no place in people being sentenced to a life in jail. It's facts and facts and no ego whatsoever.

[@pinkdiamonds9137]

That sounds reasonable, but unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. If you have a large ego, which this man clearly does, it’s naive to think that will not leak into his work and influence his investigative techniques and conduct. Police who aren’t egotistical are often pushed to employing unethical and illegal tactics in order to catch who they suspect is the perpetrator, out of frustration and pressure to close cases. Imagine that, plus the need to protect one’s ego and perceived reputation when you think so highly of yourself and your abilities. Also, it is very easy to manipulate people and push buttons when they have fragile egos; not a great weakness to have when interviewing and dealing with criminals.

[@rowanmurphy4986]

1:59 I was infact able to demonstrate that he was infact not schizophrenic (mental illness that needs to be treated in a hospital) and infact demonstrated that he was a psychopath (mental illness that needs to be treated you guessed it in a hospital) give me a break

[@OldSchoolFilm1930]

The problem ist just that almost ALL seriel killer where caught by accident and not detective work.

[@gambitdurst966]

Tony Ferguson the type of guy to intimidate him

[@BTBMAM]

This guy actually caught Jack the Ripper but he's being humble about it.

[@gavinhudson5251]

Yorkshire Ripper.

[@ioanaionita3569]

But isn't psychopathy also a medical condition? Why wouldn't they be in a hospital, instead of prison?

[@johngross5071]

It is a personality disorder, a whole different ballgame from mental illness. Personality disorders are incredibly disruptive in mental hospitals.

[@little.tricks]

They're doing a real disservice by not having a national database.

[@JustsomeSteve]

Wait what? Putting listening and/or tracking devices in a house or a vehicle of another person is "on the right side of the law as an individual"?

[@iamme625]

I mean, you can get warrants to do it. It's not like he snuck in in the middle of the night and bugged someone's phone like in a James Bond movie or something.

[@JustsomeSteve]

@@iamme625 But you can't get a warrant as an individual or can you? I get that the state can sometimes do it but it just sounds illegal to do it as an individual.

[@mmclaurin8035]

Who here thinks Jimmy Savile was in league with Peter Sutcliffe back in the day?

[@QuixoticCowboy]

did this guy with a straight face discredit the entire body of work of Paul Eckman?

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

Of all the things to criticise this guy for, y'all are picking his EGO? On a topic he's dedicated his entire life to? Nah. Him completely ignoring the actual people who started the Jimmy Saville investigation and taking basically full credit for it, on the other hand...

[@raymondromero8643]

Would you be interested in helping with a true crime story about a serial killer I was introduced to and did his best to kill me but I later found out he had killed many others?

[@Catnipqueen]

Does he know what happened to Nicola Bulley?

[@sensiblename295]

She slipped. Accidents happen.

[@unnamedchannel1237]

Shame they use that annoying camera real sound effect , so F’b annoying

[@lucastrask2838]

His descriptions of the way they hunt for people, bug them, use cameras etc. reminds me that he is in the UK, where the people are subjects. Ninety percent of what he says he does would be tossed out of court in the US. When I was in the UK a couple decades ago I watched police do things to people that would have gotten them years in prison in the States. Weirdly, even in the most stringent police states murder exists. Even in maximum security prisons no one is safe from a crazy person.

[@nm7358]

And yet you need a licence there to listen to short-wave radio.

[@Mohawks_and_Tomahawks]

"In the UK, where the people are subjects" , and , they have traded privacy for safety with their "big brother CCTV" They are the definition of having "The Illusion of Freedom"

[@monkeytennis8861]

What a load of drivel

[@boarbark]

"some air of respectability or station in life" dude go look at Robert Picton and realize that statement is objectively wrong

[@romant7204]

Have a drink everytime this guy says "I". You will be wasted before the video is half way through.

[@gigi9301]

I think the most "successful" ones have never been identified or found, thus the statement that they're prominent around town is false Facts are that only around 50% of homicides are cleared, which means solved . Depends on state, city, county. You can check it out yourself.

[@anthonybeal9069]

dude looks like he could be bruce dickinsons brother

[@petermccafferty7971]

Is that Jools Holland

[@thabangdiswane6503]

Dudes been patting himself on the back the whole episode, damn chill, giving off narcissistic vibes