How I Beat Silent Cartographer on Legendary in 3 Minutes

Hey all you cool cats and kittens today I'm breaking down a Silent Cartographer speedrun that I did over the weekend
This was the second run I've ever submitted to HaloRuns.com. The first was a 3:23 that I was ready to settle for before I managed to get this 3:21.
I'm planning on doing this for the rest of the CE levels. They'll come out as I learn them and get good enough to do runs with respectable times relative to the rest of the Halo Runs leaderboard.
This has zero skulls on btw, I get that question a lot.
Run without commentary/edits: • SC Legendary 3:21

[@frogarchist]

If you thought this was cool, I just uploaded another one for 343 Guilty Spark in 4:06. Watch here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKXQh52YnsqdntU

[@zackakai5173]

I must have played this level dozens of times over the past 20+ years, and it never once occurred to me that I could turn and run the other way at the start of the mission 🤣

[@praeamble]

If you get the point in the cartographer building where the door gets locked, then travel back to the point where the crashed pelican later appears, you can get an often unheard line of dialogue from Cortana pointing out the security building up on the cliff above you.

[@roddydykes7053]

@@praeambleinteresting

[@Fireheart318]

I love that the age-old tradition of bringing warthogs where they don’t belong carries over into speedrunning!

[@nickkohlmann]

Also Ghosts

[@Jord5tafy]

Those grenade launches blew my mind! I remember watching Naked Eli’s run 7 years ago and thinking that was fast! Loving this content 👌

[@Gabe94dotcom]

True ❤

[@SleepySucks]

That Eli intro hit me where it hurts lol

[@dennismakarov93]

me too bro

[@wmqga2n45h3]

Huge double take

[@ItsDave_Official]

Fr

[@digital_shitfest]

What happened to that Nak3dEli guy anyway?

[@dennismakarov93]

@@digital_shitfest he quit after Microsoft banned his gamertag. I remember him being a math tutor or something along those lines, so maybe he’s helping kids speedrun math idk

[@MillyBitchell]

Dude, that’s so cool of you to explain this in layman’s terms. Most speed runners won’t do that for self-preservation.

[@barbaricbri]

Dude those grenade jumps are actually INSANE lmao!

[@user-hq9gj1cm2m]

mate that was incredible! watching this brings back so many memories from playing the first halo when it came out, can't believe it was more than 20 years ago 😲

[@gtothereal]

Wow one of the best halo speed running vids I’ve ever seen. Great editing and voice over.

[@CyberKnight1]

I don't know how many times I've tried that Warthog slingshot move. I've pulled it off a couple times, and I still have no idea what I did right those times vs. every other time that failed.

[@birdmonster115]

Bro same, I feel like I could do the mission faster normally than the amount of times it takes me to pull off the slingshot move lol

[@DugasPharmacy]

I'm trying right now, but unfortunately, the checkpoint at the end of the hall never activates.

[@TheodoreChin-ih7xz]

Does anyone else find it odd that there are dead marines already inside the main structure, which is locked before you arrive. How did they accomplish that? How did they get in there lol

[@MDubHusky]

It's because its implied that marines moved in after you unlock the door on the other side of the island, if you were to play the level normally of course.

[@slideways7768]

The Fairy Fuckin Godmother Did It!

[@no-barknoonan1335]

@@MDubHusky Still not as crazy as Johnson being right next to the Pillar of Autumn as it blows up, only to somehow be alive in Halo 2. "Sorry Guns, it's classified". You find dead marines inside T&R as far as right outside the Control Room, and in AOTCR you find them in various areas outside Halo's control room. The fact that they would be able to get that far is pretty incredible, or an oversight considering how hard it is for us to get that far and we're a Spartan. I guess they just wanted an excuse to leave health kits and ammo scattered for players to pick up, that's probably why they bothered putting marines inside the Cartographer.

[@Shinzon23]

​@@no-barknoonan1335 One of the Halo books covers exactly how he got off the planet.

[@Vagabondobiondo]

But it only works because it de-canonizes the best public relations moment between humans and Sangheili. Of all time.

[@dfshjb44]

Great run and very well done explanation of the strats!

[@mclovindamatrix4325]

That was so BEAUUUTiFulll!!! I was just trying to find videos talking about nade jumping but this was ssooo much cooler

[@hunterb412]

This was awesome to watch! Every level please

[@drummify1005]

I love how most people missed all of the other Nak3d Eli references throughout the video

[@anthonygraetz4746]

Good job man! Keep up the good work.

[@jac0byelbey502]

Back again with a banger video

[@afanoflafear]

5:45 Love that "splatter spree" you pulled off. "Oh yes, there will be blood..."

[@zelren_]

I like how you mention the extra checkpoints for when we want to practice a specific part :D

[@samriver3677]

And when I was 12 I thought I was smart by going straight to the security system before the cartographer.

[@hoppeanhelicoptertours]

Congrats on 4K subscribers!

[@K0LETRAIN]

Nice run! I believe the only trick left to improve a 3:20ish is the bigger stick stack at the bottom that allows you to jump back into the warthog through the window, however the only person I've seen do it was GarrishGoblin who called it "too inconsistent".. So this might be the pinnacle of full game run strats. Nicely done!

[@frogarchist]

I could probably cut another 2 or 3 seconds using this route if everything was perfect. But yeah, beyond that, I'd have to do it in one jump.

[@thegravytrain7156]

that and maybe flipping the first warthog with a grenade at the beinning. either way, holy shit!

[@mattdrummond3552]

Love it, good stuff!

[@hunterh.1238]

Am I the only one who didn't realize this would turn into a speedrunning channel when I first started watching? lol

[@frogarchist]

mwahaha

[@pepperz3002]

Not the only one

[@Gabe94dotcom]

Lmao ❤

[@MintyLime703]

When people have played the same game for 22 years they're pretty likely to start speedrunning. Either that, or start creating mods. I mean what else is there to do? I'm 25; I've played this game since I was 3. I was never interested in speedrunning until I decided I would finally tackle LASO. I love showing my friends all the tricks I learned from those runs.

[@Chr0mePisto1a]

This video is absolute madness.

[@xaviermakesart]

That was sick as hell

[@_Cosyy]

Thank you algorithm for bringing me here

[@jdsbkotevjk]

i played this level probably 50 times. I had a few of these tricks kinda down, but man those gernade jumps were next level. NEver would I have come close to this time lolol great video my friend

[@UnderbellyNZ]

I never watch speed runner vids but this one was fascinating.

[@baorc7015]

awesome stuff sir frog

[@RADMAN5240]

lore accurate master chief

[@Brettskei]

Those grenade jumps are INSANE!!

[@idkman5838]

dang bro you beat this level twice with some time left over in the time that it took me to watch this video. P.S. that quad grenade jump was sick!

[@Gabe94dotcom]

Lmao nice ❤❤😂

[@tom-vf1xv]

It was 6 grenades total, not four.

[@idkman5838]

@@tom-vf1xv Makes it even more impressive lol

[@JustAGiraffe]

I almost never get the checkpoint at 1:48 despite having shields recharge and riding the left rail. It's so inconsistent that it makes running this level so frustrating.

[@user-vf6hr8hk9g]

Just in case you’re still wondering.. you only get a checkpoint there if you don’t skip opening cut scene

[@JustAGiraffe]

@@user-vf6hr8hk9g hooooly shit thanks. Haven't run this in a while but thanks a ton for the tip

[@DeadPlayin]

so close to 4k man 🙏 any day now

[@mileskenyon]

So satisfying to watch those grenade jumps

[@Local_Boydidgood]

Thank you. I'm not sure how you got so good with speed running ce but thank you for your vids. I just pulled a 3:39 thanks in no small part to your tutorials. Cheers "Illphro" Update, a 3:15, 3:05 and now a 3:00 thanks to you. Hoping for "record territory" soon. Thanks again.

[@onthehouse201]

the legends are true

[@PhluppeHimself]

Glad to see the halo speedruns are getting some more traction outside of the HR community. Pretty exciting stuff :)

[@frogarchist]

Doing what I can!

[@migarizav]

WOW Thats awesome!

[@ShadowsP40]

2:30 elite with the perfect timing

[@level99mike]

Played with the sputnik skull on and was able to replace the 7 nade grenade jump with a 2 plasma nade jump and skip the second grenade jump entirely. Saves around 20 seconds and is simpler to pull off. It involves sticking your self twice and then grabbing the overshield and jumping at the last moment. If done correctly the second grenade will go off on you mid-air and propel you to the final platform in one go.

[@frogarchist]

that sounds cool but it wouldn't be valid

[@level99mike]

True but I just wanted the achievement lol

[@dododostenfiftyseven4096]

“Alright space d day…and the MASTER CHIEF is running away…great”

[@jasoncook1886]

Nice work ❤

[@6ch6ris6]

wow. i knew you could fall down half way at the cartographer and i sometimes do that even though i dont speedrun at all, but didnt knew you could do it all the way. those grenade jumps are insane but what striked me the most was going through the door. i had no idea you could skip that entire section of this level. speedrunning is insane. but it is not for everyone. i love halo so much that i like to take my time playing through the games and enjoy all encounters

[@wrinklefighter]

Been playing since launch and thought there was no way you were serious with that time. I'll be damned you were!

[@fromthegrave69]

Nice video. Well done

[@hazrhyryan3624]

Was doing this stuff as a young Halo CE Pro when I was 15, 17 years ago lol. You can use the Hog to clip into and through certain walls and Rocks to skip through lvls and Multiplayer maps also. Good times & great time 3mins holy.

[@hazrhyryan3624]

@@blahmaster6k couple rocks you can hop in on Blood Gulch too we're my favourite 🤣

[@BucketBoatable]

I think I did that warthog trick in my childhood on the demo version. I tried riding in-doors many times and I remember seeing a frozen elite somewhere at least once

[@BusyMEOW]

That was interesting to see

[@Polackikvitz]

I'm going to try speedrunning thanks to you.😄

[@defalt007]

Insane

[@hermiona1147]

What the duck that multiple grenade jump blew my mind

[@MIRobin22]

"You aren't supposed to bring the warthog down here." Nobody told that to 12-year-old me playing this level for the first time. From Halo forums back then I did learn the trick for catapulting yourself through the door before it locks. But I was wondering why you didn't use the trick of lumping onto the overshield from the upper floors. Using it to get up instead was amazing.

[@ethanbenson]

That nak3d eli into gave me flashbacks. Great run!

[@Alpha117]

The feels man.

[@curseofsasuke]

My favorite mission. You have me beat by a minute

[@gamingwithodane]

New subscriber. Kinda a try this to

[@Gabe94dotcom]

Nice video

[@Jimimar360]

I enjoyed this video congrats on learning g how to do those grenade jumps

[@07Hubbs]

I tried forever on a console to hit the jump down and I always die if I even touch that edge.

[@Miokomata]

I did this on the demo when you can test it in store back in the day. You can also ram in in the door.

[@graveheart9878]

dang this was helpful.

[@weenibeenies]

2:30 “we need to get down below but thats too far a distance to fall without dying… or is it?” Random elite who overheard the question: N0OooO!!!

[@ManifestGamingX]

There is another variation of the warthog door trick to save even more time, if you are both very lucky and get flung the right way at the right time, the door will clip you through the floor, it can save about 5 or more seconds.

[@frogarchist]

The problem with that is you wouldn't be able to get the plasma grenades from the elite, which means you can't do stick stack (the big grenade jump)

[@Wax_Man]

First time I played this mission (which was a year or so ago) I drove the warthog in. Made the level significantly easier

[@odstagent1070]

3:10 | 4:22 Don't mind me, i'm just keeping these for me Great video and speedrun!

[@atch4764]

more nak3d eli references? awesome

[@user-fz5ni8ye6x]

I cant keep remembering about the Flying Hog on this level Props for Inferno Plus, i now can't play the game normally without even thinking about some cursed stuff😂

[@PesterNester]

Anyone remember just attempting to ram the warthog through the doors over and over again back in the day? I vaguely remember getting it partway through the doors after several tries as a kid, but I've never pulled it off in MCC.

[@TerrysTwigReviews]

DAMN DUDE! YOU GOIN OFF HAHA

[@guertinD61]

Nostalgia

[@coreyheren9852]

Yoo this was so sick lol ❤

[@Pwnulolumad]

Respect for not making this a 19 minute video lol

[@TGossage]

PLEASE MORE OF THIS

[@frogarchist]

New one coming out in a couple hours

[@TGossage]

@@frogarchist **subscribe**

[@TGossage]

@@frogarchist would you do a cursed halo series?

[@frogarchist]

I'll probably do a single video on the whole thing at some point

[@FDXHOMEDEL]

Library on legendary continues to be one of the most legendarily punishing levels of all time.

[@johnbarker8154]

You can also throw a grenade at the warthog in the beginning to launch it towards you. You save a second or two

[@ShuRugal]

Lol, this speedrun felt like Nylund's training-ground sequence when 117 first gets Cortana on Reach. fully exploiting the Mjolnir armor and Spartan+AI reflexes to just nope the fuck out of the intended obstacles and complete the mission.

[@moody7947]

MOAR

[@c__654]

This is the very first vid I saw...didn't know Halo could me speedran

[@oobananaa]

I feel like I'm getting bamboozled

[@TapathyWR]

Question: Isn't it easier to just drive straight into the door and then get out when the hog gets jammed? Works just as well.

[@poopmaster1911]

Ah, so that's how he did it in the book.

[@operator8014]

Ohhh, that's how. I thought there might have been some kinda tricks or exploits involved.

[@thelost39]

Bro I drove the warthog through the door way by accident i still have no idea what i would have to do if it closed

[@Starlesslemon]

2:50 you can also just crouch when you land and receive no fall damage. It's obviously alot harder.

[@benjaminmeriwether9165]

How do you do the movement on the 3 grenade stack? I've got the first one somewhat consistent, but I haven't been able to get the second stack at all

[@frogarchist]

I'm still not good at it so I don't really have an easy explanation or steps. Just gotta practice it more

[@maximkeane4263]

Hey frogarchist would you say that the 3 hour achievements on halo would be hard for a non speed runner

[@frogarchist]

Yeah, but not as hard as you might think. I got my time in the other video below 1:30 without learning all the tricks, so for 3 hours, you probably only need to learn a few that save the most time.

[@derekf5495]

My friend and I have probably played this level over 50 times in our youth. Part of the reason was because it was always on the demo disk that came with Xbox magazine.

[@anthonybell3036]

Fuckin calculated bro. Daaaaaaaaamn. Noice.

[@thefallen2220]

2:12 but doesn't CE vehicle physics make so any bump gives 1000 damage?

[@frogarchist]

There's a small window of time after you get out where the warthog won't damage you

[@thefallen2220]

@@frogarchist Iframes?

[@frogarchist]

Don't know exactly. You can definitely mistime it and get killed by the warthog if you're too slow

[@KopperNeoman]

@thefallen2220 Probably a flag that protects you from the specific attack type.

[@ThisBirdHasFlown]

5:50 that is incredible luck

[@GemmyRTS]

okay at 2:57 how are you breaking that second fall, I can't figure it out

[@JimJesus]

Oh.

[@frogarchist]

Oh.

[@JimJesus]

Oh.

[@sync2597]

My god this is by far the absolute hardest level in all of halo history to speedrun took me 4 fucking hours

[@theasiancow1860]

Now do this for cursed halo

[@thatukguy156]

I am struggling to get the warthog to top speed to do that

[@ASwordElite]

Why you gotta trick me into thinking Eli was back D',',',X

[@frogarchist]

mwahahaha

[@anthonydevellis6708]

That’s cool, but can you do it on LASO, no walking, no shooting, no grenades, no melee, no jumping, with one hand tied behind your back while a swarm of bees stings your butt repeatedly?

[@wesss9353]

I get lost in the Cortina level...