How I convince clients to buy my art + it doubled my income

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@maarikaaa 3 ай бұрын

You're right, artist shouldn't lower their prices in hopes to get more commissions. I've had a client ask for a commission and told me their budget right off the bat which was less than my minimum rate, so I turned them down and told them how much I would charge normally and.... they agreed to my higher rate! It's a pleasure to work with clients that respect your art and your pricing.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

That's amazing!! It's amazing what you'll get when you are brave enough to ask for it, isn't it?

@LuciaLopez-jc3bn 3 ай бұрын

Hey just wanted to say thank you so much for your videos! They’ve inspired me so much and I’ve learned a lot. I started freelancing a month ago and I’ve managed to earn over 1k so far. You really motivate me to not give up and I hope you keep making these videos! :))

@TheArtMentor 2 ай бұрын

Wow that's amazing! I'm so proud of you and happy for you! What niche are you freelancing in?

@LuciaLopez-jc3bn 2 ай бұрын

@@TheArtMentor Thanks so much! I've been doing fantasy and dnd characters! I've been taking a lot of your advice and they've really helped me in communicating with the clients. However recently I got scammed so I wish I watched your video on nightmare art clients sooner haha :'))

@Chonkeeartist9001 2 ай бұрын

I really love how your channel is both about art mentorship and a business mentorship at the same time. I've been learning a lot of things about art, time management and self-preservation while at the same time taking actionable advices for promoting my art to the global market and how one should present themselves to potential clients. My only regret though is I wished I had discovered your channel much sooner. Here's looking forward for more art tips and heartfelt advices from you sir!

@TheArtMentor 2 ай бұрын

I'm so glad to hear you're enjoying my content, and thanks so much for your support!! All of those are topics not many KZbinrs approach, are they? I appreciate your support of my content while I try my best to support you too!

@ladyuh77 3 ай бұрын

I've been thinking of branching out into commissions and contemplating if it's something I really want for myself. Your videos have been super helpful in not only giving great advice but also helping me truly consider what I want for my art career. For now I might just stick to making my webcomic and growing my community, but who knows, maybe in the future I can dedicate myself to commissions for a bit too. As artists the best we can do for ourselves is to put our time and talent into the things we're TRULY passionate about so we can improve. Nowhere to go but up!

@TheArtMentor 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for all of your support, and I'm thrilled to hear you're having those self-discoveries!

@Ayzay1717 3 ай бұрын

Quality advices as usual with you, thanks.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

my pleasure! What helped you the most in this video?

@twitchew 3 ай бұрын

For the 3 item sales pitch (anchor) , I would put the lowest complexity one second. so then the one you think will work best (middle value) last, because , OH BOY is that way better then the totally dissatisfying one, and it is lower price then the super deluxe item (the person will tend to just recall the price being "high"). and this does may the client feel better about the middle purchase, they got a good price and pretty good product.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

That's a good tactic as well! Have you been in sales long?

@elylioney6390 3 ай бұрын

1 time I requested to pay a guy like ¼ of the total every 2 weeks, to reduce the pain of paying. He agreed and he added wouldn't ship it untill fully paid. I guess it was like Layby.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

That's a great compromise! You sound like a rockstar client. What was the job the artist did for you?

@elylioney6390 3 ай бұрын

@@TheArtMentor It was an antique jewellery box that he already refurbished

@mythiclys 3 ай бұрын

This is a really good video!! I have a question since I'm starting out on commissions. What would you say is a good starting range pricing [Headshot-Fullbody] for someone who's a university student just trying to earn a bit of extra cash and portfolio.

@unciervoenciervado 3 ай бұрын

how much do you expect to earn per hour of work? how much time do those pieces take you?

@mythiclys 3 ай бұрын

@@unciervoenciervado Well probably the average of a minimum wage job? And usually it takes at least 5-12 hours depending on the piece. 15-20 hours tops if its a full illustrated full body. So I guess that answered it for me.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

Can I simplify it for you? Dont think in terms of an hourly rate bc that’s a poverty pricing mindset, and unless you’re in house, nobody is going to track your time. For you, you’d probably want to start around $150 for the lowest job. How does that sound?

@mythiclys 3 ай бұрын

@@TheArtMentorThat sounds alright. Especially since I've had a massive improvement this year and feel extremely confident with my work! My styles going more of a watercolour style route and I'm really trying to hone in on that.

@MrShark-wf3xy 3 ай бұрын

How do you price if you do traditional art? I do multiple mediums like water color, acrylic paint and gouache, I also do multiple art styles like realism, cartoons, anime.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

Easy! The same as any other medium, and probably a bit more because you have to ship to a customer. Btw, can I recommend that you consider niching down a bit if you're wanting to sell those? That's a very broad spectrum of styles and offerings

@jetboyblue4478 3 ай бұрын

For me it’s finding clients, I don’t mind getting a no from a potential client.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

Awesome mindset! What are you doing to better attract your intended clients?

@magicimaginations 3 ай бұрын

How do you know what to charge? I have a problem, I think at first I thought I was soooo lucky to find my dream job through someone illustrating book covers for a publisher, but the problem is, i'm getting paid roughly $150 to $250 per book job, and each job, to my surprise, has ended up lasting 6 months to a year because each one has dragged out that long because of several client meetings (in person) and updates/changes and different versions AND it involves graphic design layout for the printers too. Over the last year i'd say i've earnt $600 total for several books, but expected to be on call to change the illustration or do the graphic design for the printers, i've literally had to stay on government benefits just so I can afford to live AND THEY KNOW IT. Now i've accepted a big new job with them (how can i say no to my dream job right??) to do a full book with a cover with full illustrated 12 page spreads, it includes graphic design text layout (even though they just see me as an illustrator), basically a whole book, and they've asked ME what i want to charge them, i'm not even sure what to charge, and knowing the tiny payments i'm getting so far i'd say they're only expecting me to quote $1-2k?, but for me to hand draw and paint all these spreads plus the cover and graphic design will take me weeks, plus knowing them, all the draft changes and extras will push it up to a years job, so no matter what I quote it will still leave me as a starving artist, and their jobs are chewing up all my time when I want to make my own books, I'm better off working at MacDonalds! what do i do!

@Terithes 3 ай бұрын

That sounds rough. It might not be an easy fix for it, but I'd say perhaps consider what you'd want to be paid an hour. Then total that, and ask yourself or a good friend that knows you and is knowledgeable with that, if it is a reasonable asking price. Sometimes it can also be good to do work that puts your name out there, but that depends on who you're working with and what the work is. might be difficult to figure out if the projects lasts so long. But maybe try to think hard on how much working time you spent on it, then ask what a fair price should be for your invested time and effort. I myself don't work with publishers or books, but I work with people and take commissions and draw adult oriented art. But perhaps there might be some similarities. I have increased my prices a lot over time, and in the beginning it was very little, and I had a lot of people asking me to draw for them, as my skills and amount of clients increased I began increasing my prices. And when I increased my price, only those that could see my worth stayed. Sure it leaves a hole where older clients used to be, but it leaves room for new clients that value my work. But you have to have work out there so you can be seen, or have a portfolio. But another way of working around things about price and time could be changing that. If the best you can make is too high of a price, yes that can be a thing, perhaps do work that's faster for you, but would also be cheaper as well for the client, (although don't make that option too cheap since you should still be paid fairly for your work). I myself have it like that with two options, one where I set a very high price for the best I can make, and a lower one where I am not as detailed and make something simpler that I would expect most people to choose, and my goal is for such a work not to take more than 2 days to finish, and if someone wants the higher quality one that may be full work for a week or so I instead get like a happy surprise that someone wants that. I think that if you want others to acknowledge your worth you have to do so as well.

@magicimaginations 3 ай бұрын

@@Terithes Ty for responding, yea i'm going to have to do some research, turns out book illustration rates are: cover $1400 and double spread each $969= total $13,028, oh boy!!! or $150 to $250 per hour but then other places say some illustrators charge as little as $500 for a whole book, while others charge $20,000. The confusion is real.

@maarikaaa 3 ай бұрын

These are very low prices. I've had similar experience, I did a book cover and 15 illustrations for a publishers and was paid under $1k and I burned out with that project even though that was a project that I enjoyed. I wouldn't do it again and I've also moved on from working on book covers and in the publishing industry. It's not worth it to me. If doing covers is your dream job then you should ask for a lot more money.

@magicimaginations 3 ай бұрын

@@maarikaaa Thanks for sharing this, it helps hearing experiences, it just seems like nobody wants to pay real artists and designers, also the clients want it to look like disney style and think any other style is outdated or old. it's really sad.

@TheArtMentor 3 ай бұрын

Sorry for getting to this late. Yeah, those are some very low rates, especially for commercial work. For something of this scope (how many pages btw??) It's not unusual to start $2-5k depending on scope, length of time, and the publisher. I have some content on art pricing, would that be helpful?