How I Fixed Smash Ultimate's Classic Mode

[@Aaronitmar]

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[@Jujan04]

Hey Aaron! Could you please make the Mii Fighters route customizable? I’ve always found it strange that they didn’t have a good route. Since Miis are all about customization, why not give them a customizable route?

[@____David]

Hey Great video! If I could name a little tweak I would make to your Mario Classic mode (which is already very good don't get me wrong), On the Mario Galaxy round, I'd also throw in Yoshi as well since he is a major part of Galaxy 2. If you're thinking this would make the fight a bit too easy maybe you could have Bowser have some allies as well. Of course Bowser Jr. would be the obvious choice however I honestly think that I would prefer several Marios in either his purple or monochromatic alt representing the cosmic clones, it would serve as a great reference to the game and also make the fight a bit more balanced, but then again, those are just my thoughts (still a great video).

[@oscarwillimott9296]

​@@Jujan04I was just about to ask for that. WHY ISN'T IT IN-GAME?!

[@stefancollins5960]

Yo Aaronitmar! You should change Sonic classic route by making him fight against Galleam as a final boss fight for Sonic.

[@jamiegameplaythrough9485]

Only one problem, DLC Fighters aren't allowed in Classic Mode Routes for Main-Game Fighters.

[@princess_of_heck]

I always wanted Diddy's route to reference the boss fights from DKC2 with an ally Diddy using the pink color scheme to reference Dixie

[@brandonjacques7624]

Or maybe have it based off of Diddy Kong Racing.

[@TheBlazingBronzeBro]

You could've had Lucina fought Marth for the final battle. While he doesn't time travel, I remember Lucina traveling back in time, pretending to be Marth. Just an idea

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

Put him in Fountain of Dreams to really sell the blast to the past (melee moment)

[@fangzgaming5510]

And have melee fire emblem music too

[@TheBlazingBronzeBro]

And maybe a Chrom is their too. To represent Past, Marth. Present, Chrom. And Future, Lucina

[@fyra_cat2119]

@@TheBlazingBronzeBro if doing that, then make it a free for all, just so it isnt "past and present vs future" or "future and present vs past"

[@TheBlazingBronzeBro]

@Fyra_Cat Yeah, I was thinking that would be better after typing out my last comment 😅. Just didn't feel like editing it

[@mzk8]

For Ryu, you can change the final boss to Ganondorf (M. Bison) and if you reach the boss with a high enough intensity, you fight a powered up Ryu (Akuma) instead

[@corenasue]

Oh that is a Good Idea.

[@venomgaming7014]

I have a different idea to add on to this. If the ganondorf/ryu idea isn’t to one’s taste, then ryu could end with a supercharged ryu in the dark grey alt (the one with the yellow headband) as a reference to his inner demon powered by the Satsui No Hado, Evil Ryu.

[@The4thSnake]

Have you ever considered "fixing" spirit battles? Maybe using DLC characters in base roster spirit battles to better represent them.

[@Why_Not8]

You mean like the Mythra, pyra, and minmin fights?

[@ktoon4725]

@@Why_Not8 pff, they just use their actual characters. 🤣 I don’t think that’s what they meant but that would make sense.

[@nevenpatrk9661]

Wow didn't expect The4thsnake to be here.

[@jackflynn412]

It always bothered me that the Min Min spirit isn't Min Min. There's also many spirits that Piranha Plant could fit well into.

[@sirus0s]

@@jackflynn412 Imean, Min Min was not a playable character when her spirit battle was made. Plus having a DLC character in a base-game spirit battle sounds like quite a bit of trouble. Same with the Pyra and Mythra spirits.

[@memeelfman324]

I've got an idea Wario should have a route base on Wario land and/or WarioWare

[@misaelmendez4989]

I agree with you

[@fangzgaming5510]

I think it would work if there were more Wario stages

[@dustymcwari4468]

Maybe something based on Get it Together’s story where he’s jumping from level to level to fight the bugs in his game

[@PantaroParatroopa]

I once had an idea for a WarioWare based route for Wario. The gimmick is that each fight but the boss has increased launch power and a strict time limit of 1 minute at max. ROUND 1: VS Red Daisy on WarioWare (Mona) ROUND 2: VS Two tiny Sheiks on Suzaku Castle (Kat and Ana) ROUND 3: VS Mii Swordfighter Ashley and tiny red Ridley on Luigi's Mansion (Ashley and Red) ROUND 4: VS Dr. Mario and blue ROB on Dr. Wily's Castle (Dr. Crygor and Mike) ROUND 5: VS Villager and green Donkey Kong on Gamer (9-Volt and 18-Volt, and also 5-Volt) ROUND 6: VS Mewtwo, Incineroar and Pikachu on Fourside (Orbulon, Dribble and Spitz) BOSS: VS Gold Wario on WarioWare Omega (Wario variants that serve as the final stage)

[@amesstarline5482]

​@@PantaroParatroopa Maybe as well, there's a small Mario in the final battle- representing Lulu from Gold.

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

I think having Metal Ness be the one for the time travel route would have been fun

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Also only have Jeff as an assist trophy, since he does go with Ness back in time. Maybe have Final Smash Meter on too so you can also get Poo and Paula in there, but that might be a bit much.

[@batflyt5553]

what about having Dracula. a character who has lived through centuries of human civilization for the boss. he seems to defy time itself.

[@Jelly_shy_guy_man]

Meta knight I Big Metal ness is so much fun please make it

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

@@batflyt5553 Agreed, would be a fitting final boss for time travel

[@TrashCF4L]

​@@remylacroix1885 they upgrading the bots

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

I still feel what feels lacking in Ultimate's Classic Mode is the endless matchups, Melee and even Smash 4 (3DS) were perfect in having variety and replayability. Here with your main you have to pray they gave him a good route or completely lazed out on it (cough, Lucas) If it had a Random option on Classic it'd have been so much sweeter, keep the best of both worlds

[@DjoingDalton]

Should've had the Mario bros along with tiny version of themselves for the Lucina route. and should've made the Ness Metal as well.

[@ktoon4725]

I can’t remember if you did this idea, and there’s definitely no way Nintendo would do this but a funny idea for Sora’s classic mode would be him fighting characters that represent different Disney worlds Sora goes to. Some ideas could be fighting Adult Ike on Arena Ferox to represent Hercules and the Olympus coliseum, Male Wii Fit Trainer on Dracula’s castle to represent Jack and Halloween Town, Dark Samus on Shadow Moses Island for Tron, Rosalina and Luma on Summit for Elsa and Frozen, and so on. Alternatively instead of fighting the Disney Heroes it could be you fight Disney Villains or even just heartless. And of course you have to have Duck Hunt as an ally throughout the whole thing.

[@saxtonhale6029]

ok hear me out male Robin/Sephiroth on Tortimer's Island omega

[@pepelagarto8110]

The duck hunt ally is the best thing about this

[@Gashnaw]

But goofy is a bull.

[@pepelagarto8110]

@@Gashnaw we dont care about your head cannon

[@Gashnaw]

@@pepelagarto8110 it is not my headcanon ir Is official from disney

[@KingConnor523]

Here’s an alternate for Sora, “My friends are my power”. Sora travels to different worlds in smash, teaming up with the heroes of each world against the villains similar to how he does in KH games. The final battle I’ll leave to you but it has the unique gimmick of the allies Sora fought with on the way there randomly appearing for a short time before leaving and being replaced with another ally to help against the boss. Pretty much symbolic how even when his friends are fighting beside him directly, they are still giving him strength.

[@Sean_Bird]

One idea I had for Cloud’s Classic Mode would be an “RPG Icons” route. As Final Fantasy is an extremely notable RPG series, it makes sense to give him a route like this. Plus, his original route is weirdly comical, playing off him having motion sickness, which is an odd thing to reference for a whole route. This new route goes: 1: Sora on Tortimer Island (For Destiny Island) 2: Joker on Mementos (Representing Persona and SMT as a whole.) 3: Ness and Lucas on Battlefield Onett 4: Marth and Byleth on Colosseum (The first and latest FE characters in Smash Ult.) 5: Shulk and Pyra/Mythra on Cloud Sea of Alrest 6: All four Hero variants as a horde battle on Battlefield Yggdrasil’s Altar Boss: Sephiroth, with a stronger second phase against him in his shirtless alt. Stage is Northern Cave. I also want one adjustment towards Dark Samus’s route: I’d replace the battle against Ryu with Ken with a battle where you fight Kirby and Meta Knight with a Black Dedede on Fountain of Dreams, referencing the many times Dedede has gotten possessed. The song in this battle would be 02’s theme to reference Dark Matter. I suggest this due to the Ken/Ryu fight being in both Dark Samus and Mewtwo’s classic routes. While I don’t mind the two of them having similar routes, the Street Fighter characters are the only repeat for both, so removing them from one route would make them both stronger IMO.

[@venomgaming7014]

One small issue. WHERE’S POKÉMON? THE HIGHEST GROSSING MEDIA FRANCHISE OF ALL TIME?

[@Sean_Bird]

@@venomgaming7014 I’m pretty sure when I made this, I prioritized more traditional JRPGs since Pokemon is also part Monster-Collection.

[@yoccmwerdna1271]

I really like these concepts and what you did with them. If I were to change one thing I would have Sephiroth in Lucina’s time travel classic mode because of the HEAVY implications that he went back in time to change his fate in FFVII Remake. I get that there is lots of explaining and context required for that so I get why he wouldn’t be there but it would be cool nonetheless.

[@choosbehguy]

I wonder if you could make any Classic routes that match specific Mii costumes. I know you can’t actually select Miis for Classic mode, but I think it’d be neat to hear your thoughts on what characters’ Classic routes could be if they WERE full fighters. Some ideas I personally had were: Geno having the Mario RPG route you originally had with Mario Chibi-Robo in stages like Living Room and Garden of Hope to match his small size Shantae potentially fighting characters in the Metroidvania genre, like Samus, Simon, or even more random picks like Wario or a Tails Mii who have also been in Metroidvanias. Potentially ending it with a Blue Daisy and an army of Black K Rools on Pirate Ship, matching Risky Boots and the Tinkerbats. My personal favourite is one for Knuckles, going through some stages that are similar to stages in Sonic 3 and Knuckles: Wuhu Island - Fighting Sonic and a Tails Mii as they fly onto Angel Island Distant Planet - Angel Island Zone itself Halberd - Flying Battery Zone Mushroomy Kingdom - Sandopolis Zone, could even fight a bunch of white Kirby’s to mimic the ghost enemies that appear there Norfair - Lava Reef Zone Great Cave Offensive - Fighting Sonic in Hidden Palace Zone And then the final battle would be in Palutena’s Temple against a Giant Metal Sonic, calling back to Knuckles’ fight against Mecha Sonic in Sky Sanctuary. Just some random thoughts, I think there’s a lot of ideas to be had from the Mii Costumes, just thought I’d throw some of my ideas in there

[@agamer9953]

Yeah, that's a great idea. I would like to see the Miis have their own Classic Mode routes.

[@Fuges]

Honestly, this is what they should’ve done to get around being unable to include anything Disney related

[@griefingg0lem685]

The one for Pyra/Mythra is honestly what I'd instead give to Meta Knight. Yeah they are swords, but all of Meta Knights fights in the games are about him wanting a sword duel. Heck, even his route in Super Star is about fighting to take on and challenge the strongest warrior of all time.

[@TrueTrickster2016]

I made this the last time you did a video like this, its pretty long so bare with me please. You should make Joker's Classic Mode him fighting the Bosses of the Palaces in Persona 5 but Joker is being teammed up with the characters you unlock in each Palace. 1st battle: A Horde Battle against a Giant Red Bowser and 4 Red Wii Fit Trainers with 2 partners being Red Zero Suit Samus & Black Captain Falcon the battle will take place inside Castle Siege. The music choice will be Last Surprise. (Bowser represents Kamoshida cause they lust over the respective females Ann Takamaki for Kamoshida and Princess Peach for Bowser. ZSS represents Ann Takamaki cause they battle in tight latex suits, while Captain Falcon represents Ryuji Sakamoto because of their similar clothes, also they both are victims of Kamoshida.) 2nd Battle: Fight against Giant Yellow Ryu with your partner being Black Chrom the battle takes place in Omega Suzaku Castle. The music will be Last Surprise. (Ryu represents Madarame because they're voiced but the same VA: Kyle Hebert, Chrom represents Yusuke Kitagawa they're both also voiced by the same VA: Matt Mercer) 3rd Battle: A Team Battle against Red Biker Wario and A Giant Metal Jigglypuff with your partner being Black Sheik the battle will take place in Battlefield Dracula’s Castle. The music will be Last Surprise. (Wario represents Kaneshiro cause they're both very greedy fat characters, the Giant Metal Jigglypuff represents Kaneshiro's Giant Weapon called Piggy-Tron cause they roll into you. Shiek represents Makoto Niijima cause they both fight in martial arts. It's in Dracula’s Castle because it's used in Makoto Niijima's spirit battle.) 4th Battle: Fight against Giant Brown Wolf with your partner being default Female Inkling the battle will take place in Omega Mushroomy Kingdom. The music will be Beneath the Mask Remix. (Wolf represents the boss in Futaba's Palace which is a hybrid of the head of Futaba's Mother: Wakaba Isshiki with the body of a Sphinx, Orange Inkling represents Futaba Sakura because of their similar looks and white shirt, It's in Mushroomy Kingdom because Futaba's Palace takes place in a Desert.) 5th Battle: A Horde Battle that consists of Light Blue ROB, Yellow ROB, Red ROB, Dark Blue ROB, Green ROB, a Giant NES colored ROB, and then a Giant Red/Black Olimar in that order with your partner being Pink Villager, the battle will take place in Mario Galaxy. The music will be Last Surprise. (Olimar represents Shadow Kunikazu Okumura the 5th Palace boss that wears a Space Suit plus Helmet. The different color ROBs represents the robots that work for Kunikazu Okumura. The Pink Villager represents Haru Okumura because they are short hair girls that use Axes in battle. It takes place in Mario Galaxy because Kunikazu Okumura's Palace takes place in Outer Space.) 6th Battle before the Classic Route Boss: A fight against Giant Black Dark Samus using a Killing Edge with your partner being White Marth the battle will take place in Omega Fourside. The music will now be Rivers in a Desert. (Dark Samus represents Sae Niijima who transforms into a battle armor with a giant sword and machine gun. Marth represents the one and only Goro Akechi the Detective Prince. It takes place in Fourside because Sae Niijima's Palace which takes place in a City/Casino.) The Bosses in Joker's Classic Mode is against Giant Black Incineroar which represents Masayoshi Shido because his final form is muscular like Incineroar and the music choice will be Rivers in a Desert also only Joker will fight by himself against Incineroar, but after you defeat Incineroar. Master Hand & Crazy Hand will appear because they're the true Final Boss like Yaldabaoth. The final battle will both take place in Omega Mementos, but the music choice when the Hands come out will become Our Beginning. Pikachu Libre which represents Morgana will be your partner against the Hands because Morgana was born in a special place within the depths in Mementos also because Pikachu and Morgana in Japan are both voiced by Ikue Ōtani. If there was one more fight I would of definitely would wrote down the ideas for Dr. Takuto Maruki and his Palace Battle.

[@TheCreatorF.M.]

For Pyra and Mythra, I think you could swap Steve for a battle against Meta Knight and Corrin. Not enough people talk about Meta Knight's sword, Galaxia, which is also a canonically extraordinarily powerful weapon!

[@DustD.Reaper]

And the name could then probably also be changed to Blades of Legends with everyone using some kind of blade, and it could also directly reference to Pyra and Mythra being legendary blades themself

[@twinkling_topaz14]

I actually think Ike would work as well because his sword, Ragnell, is also a very strong legendary weapon. Ragnell also has a counterpart that's wielded by the Black Knight, called Alondite.

[@TheCreatorF.M.]

@@twinkling_topaz14 Better yet, have it be Meta Knight, Marth and Ike for a nice nod to Subspace

[@WeirdBrain]

Here's my idea for a new Classic mode for Snake. I based each fight off of a boss from MGS1. 1. Fox on Shadow Moses, representing Revolver Ocelot. I think either you could have bombs constantly spawn, or you're given an ally character who you must keep alive or else you fail. 2. Inkling on Shadow Moses (Final Destination). Represents Decoy Octopus. Pokeballs containing Ditto will frequently spawn. 3. Mewtwo on Luigi's Mansion, representing Psycho Mantis. Left and right controls will suddenly reverse. 4. Zero Suit Samus (or Wolf) on Summit (Battlefield Form). Representing Sniper Wolf. ZSS wields the Staff item, filling in the role of her sniper rifle. 5. Giant Falco on Shadow Moses (Battlefield) with Super Scope. Represents Vulcan Raven. 6. Snake on Frigate Orpheon (Hazards off). Represents Liquid Snake. Opponent prefers hand-to-hand attacks. And keep Galleom as the boss.

[@dieg7749]

Here’s an idea I would personally like for Kirby. The theme is super star since smash likes it so much. Each round represents one of the sub games. Starting with dedede in boxing ring representing spring breeze (his theme will obviously be playing). Next round is gourmet race but since I already used dedede before it, the battle references his old classic mode route by having Kirby fight 2 other big eaters that may compete in a gourmet race (Yoshi and wario respectively). Only food items will spawn and you’ll start out the battle a little damaged like in the old classic mode. Stage is dreamland 64 with gourmet race 64 playing. Next you fight a giant red falco to reference dybablade, with falco being the dynablade stand in. The fight is on gerudo valley with the Kirby boss medley playing. After that is the great cave in a free for all where you fought opponents that represent each of the great cave bosses (blue K Rool for fatty whale, rob for CV, green greninja for chamelleo arm and dk for wham bam). Don’t worry, the fight is on battle field great cave with obviously the great cave song playing. Next is revenge of meta knight. I don’t think I need to explain what the battle is here. Only other thing of note is that sword items will spawn. Lastly, the round before the boss references the arena. More specifically you fight a hoard(?) of fighters in order, each spawning in once you defeat the previous one like in Terry’s classic mode. The fighters are stand ins for the midbosses from super star (or atleast only the ones who have a spirit battle). The order being blue Yink for poppy bros Sr-> iceys for Mr.Frost-> Pac-Man for chef Kawasaki-> Ridley for Bugzzy-> and Purple DK for bonkers. You will be paired up with a blue ryu as a knuckle Joe stand in referencing the helpers you can spawn in. The battle is on the colosseum stage since it looks like the stage you fight the midbosses in the arena and the song is a battle of friends and bonds. And Marx as the boss fits in even better now as he is the final boss of super star and the boss of milky way wishes, the last important sub game

[@Nin10doCentral]

For Mario's route, you could also say the second Bowser fight references the Giant Bowser in Super Mario Galaxy 2, where he was the final boss for that game.

[@dustymcwari4468]

And maybe scrap the SMB fight so you don’t fight Bowser twice or thrice, and representing SMB2 also sounds neat

[@RainTheWolfie]

Wario's Classic Route has him fighting heavy fighters who hits hard... yet Bowser never appears. As such, Wario's Boss should be against Bowser. Upon defeat, he transforms into Giga Bowser.

[@Astra-dx]

Or for Lucina... You can have her fight Robin and when you ko Robin, you fight a Rathalos with id (purpose) playing in the stage you fight Ganon in. Doubles as a Grima reference being the big bad in Awakening and the dlc future past in that game as well.

[@jordankodey6831]

Given the route you made for Lucina, I think it would be really cool if her final fight was against Galliom, as a meta reference to the fact that Galliom comes back in World of Light, which takes place well after the events of Subspace.

[@micahheyward5342]

New Sonic Route: Round 1: Alt 7 Fox on Green Hill Zone with Emerald Hill Zone from Sonic 2 (Genesis) playing Round 2: Alt 8 Incineroar on Battlefield Windy Hill Zone with Angel Island Remix playing Round 3: Metal Alt 8 Sonic (default Sonic if playing as Alt 8 Sonic) on Port Town Aero Dive with Sonic Boom from Sonic CD playing Round 4: Giant Metal Light Blue Inkling on Fourside with Open Your Heart from Sonic Adventure playing Round 5: Giant Red Ridley on Omega Mario Galaxy with Live and Learn from Sonic Adventure 2 playing with Alt 5 Sonic as an ally (default Sonic if you're playing as Alt 5 Sonic) Round 6: Roy Koopa on Frigate Orpheon with Scrap Brain Zone from Sonic 1 (Genesis) playing Boss: Vs Galloem with Alt 7 Fox and Alt 8 Incineroar as your allies

[@starfoxsmash7002]

If you ask me, I'd say that Sora's route was a complete missed opportunity to have him fight the other DLC characters. Heres how it would go: Round 1: Pirahna Plant and 2 Jokers (Phanom Thief and Student) Round 2: 4 Heroes Round 3: Banjo & Kazooie and Terry Round 4: 2 Byleths (Male and Female) and Min Min Round 5: Steve, Alex, Zombie, Enderman Round 6: Sephiroth, Pyra/Mythra, and Kazuya Final Round: Dracula (Since Pirahna Plant fights Rathalos in his route, why not have Sora fight the other new boss, Dracula.) Title: Challengers Approaching (A reference to when you encounter a hidden character. It just fits with Sora being final character.)

[@greatdaein6699]

I think robin’s route could use a change, I’d call it “the darkness within”. It would use characters who at one point or another been corrupted or turned evil in their games. The fighters would include: Ryu referencing evil ryu from street fighter Palutena referencing when she was controlled by the chaos kin in kid Icarus uprising, Kazuya referencing the Devil gene fight in tekken 2, Corrin referencing the first time they turned into a dragon and went on a rampage in fire emblem fates (also a nod to their fallen alts in fire emblem heroes). Luigi, as his time as Mr. L from super paper Mario. And finally a boss battle against the same gender Robin the player chose with chrom as a partner, referencing the final battle in fire emblem awakening where they team up to take down grima/Robin before it can take over the world.

[@goldshell9992]

King Dedede got possessed by Dark Matter. Meta Knight got possessed numerous times in the Kirby series. Zelda got possessed by Ganondorf in Twilight Princess. That all I got

[@mattoconnor7475]

Here's a fun one. A lot of classic mode routes like Ice Climbers, Pyra/Mythra, and Banjo and Kazooie feature the theme of duo characters. But here's an idea I came up with for Banjo. His route could be themed around characters made by Rare. I'd call it "A Rare Opportunity". For example, you could have Zero Suit Samus as a reference to Joanna Dark from Perfect Dark, or you could have a team of three Greninja as a reference to the Battletoads. The penultimate battle could be against DK and Diddy Kong. For the boss, I guess you could go with Galleom as a loose reference to Blast Corps.

[@Silvershire]

Kazuya's is pretty underwhelming, so I would change it to fit a theme that's integral to the Tekken series: family. Each fight would be against pairs of characters who are related to each other (beware spoilers for Mother 3): 1. Mario and Luigi 2. Bowser and Bowser Jr. 3. Lucina and Chrom 4. Lukas x2, with one of them using the Masked Man alt 5. Simon and Richter 6. Kazuya using his Jin alt and a mii brawler dressed as Heihachi 7. Master Hand and Crazy Hand The fourth and sixth battles could be free-for-alls since those family members don't usually get along.

[@BlitzikyuZ]

A quick fix for Sora’s classic mode would be replacing the final boss with Galeem/Dharkon on the variant of final destination where you fight them normally in WOL (where light and darkness clash in the background). Considering he’s the final DLC it would be really fitting to give him the final boss of the story mode, and it goes along with his classic mode theme plus the theme of kingdom hearts in general.

[@mattwo7]

I feel like Pyra and Mythra should have a specifically fire/light themed route. Legendary swords doesn't seem specific enough when there's so many sword wielders. ...Then again looking at all the candidates, there's too many light-affiliated characters too, especially if you included Ganondorf on the technicality that he wields the Triforce of Power, Luma and Kirby because of stars and Sonic because of Super Sonic. When it comes to fire there's the reverse issue so you'd probably have to stretch it a bit because there's actually not enough that wield fire without other elements to include Sephiroth's and Joker's dark fire as well as Ryu whose "fireballs" are technically made of raw energy that isn't any warmer than body temperature rather than actual fire.

[@thestrange2742]

I have an Idea for Olimar it's called Treasure expedition, it's all about characters who have treasures or collect stuff. The order is Mario as he collects coins, Banjo and Kazooie as their games are collectathons, Donkey and Diddy kong for the same reason as Banjo and Kazooie, Ganondorf as his goal is to collect all peices of the triforce, Joker as he and the rest of the phantom thieves steal the treasures of those who have high cognitive distortions, and Wario as it's pretty obvious The final battle is against Galleom although he dosen't collect treasure he himself is the treasure.

[@Honestyairda]

Idea for Miis (if you can work them out): Title: Many Faced Fighters Basically you just fight characters with Alts referencing different characters Round 1: you fight Alph, the skin from olimar Round 2: you fight The hero from dragon quest 3 Round 3: you fight the hero from dragon quest 5 Round 4: you fight the hero from dragon quest 8 Round 5: you face a Zombie, the skin of steve Round 6: you fight an Ender man the skin of steve Round 7: you have a hoard battle with all the koopalings excluding bowser jr Boss: Marx, because according to some sources, it has the most variety of moves

[@BakuMamX]

for pyra's route, you could have replaced steve with meta knight. galaxia IS a legendary sword. or, simon/richeter, who have the vampire killer whip, another legendary weapon.

[@Amyroseplaysstuff]

It would be cool if you can make your own Mii classic mode in Smash 6 with selectable stages, Fighters, music etc.

[@hylianwoomy2884]

I have a pretty neat idea for Young Link, as I think it could reference his appearances in Ocarina Of Time and Majora's Mask, I would title this theme as, "A Journey Through Two Lands." The first battle would have him fight Ganondorf in Bridge Of Eldin with Zelda (In her Ocarina Of Time costume) as his partner. The second battle would have him fight a green Diddy Kong in Kongo Jungle. (A reference to the Deku mask.) The third battle would have him fight a yellow Donkey Kong in Gerudo Valley. (A reference to the Goron mask.) The fourth battle would have him fight a violet Greninja in Great Bay. (A reference to the Zora mask.) The fifth battle would have him fight Link in his Fierce Deity costume in Umbera Clock Tower. (A reference to the Fierce Deity mask and the clock tower from Majora's Mask.) The penultimate battle would have him fight a Mii Brawler with the Skull Kid Mii costume in Reset Bomb Forest. (A reference to the Skull Kid in both games.) The boss battle will have him fight Marx instead of Ganon due to Marx having similarities to Majora in Majora's Mask. I hoped this idea helped as a Young Link main, since I think his orignal classic mode is kinda boring by only him fighting the characters from the Zelda series and not focusing on the games he's in.

[@edwardramos4591]

I've had many ideas for what Sora's Classic Mode could have been like during the speculation period. Here are two of them: Idea 1: Hand in Hand (This idea has Sora team up with a good guy against their respective villain. This references the Disney World portion of your average Kingdom Hearts game) Stage 1: King Dedede on Fountain of Dreams (Ally: Kirby) Stage 2: Wolf on Venom (Allies: Fox and Falco) Stage 3: Ridley on Norfair (Ally: Zero Suit Samus) Stage 4: King K. Rool on Halberd (Allies: 2 Diddy Kong; one wearing the default, and the other wearing the pink Dixie Kong alt) Stage 5: Ganondorf (Color 8) on Bridge of Eldin (Ally: Link (Color 6)) Stage 6: Bowser on Princess Peach's Castle (Allies: Mario and Luigi) Boss Stage: Dracula (Ally: Richter) Idea 2: One Sky, One Destiny (The idea is to take Sora through a mock recreation of his journey throughout the Kingdom Hearts series) Stage 1: Giant Mr. Game & Watch on Tortimer Island (The fight with Darkside during the destruction of Destiny Islands) Stage 2: Advent Children Cloud on Coliseum (The fight with Cloud at Olympus in Kingdom Hearts) Stage 3: Robin (Color 8) and Zero Suit Samus (Color 4) on Kalos Pokémon League (The journey through Castle Oblivion, with Robin representing Marluxia and ZSS representing Larxene) Stage 4: Sora (Color 8) on the Sora variation of Hollow Bastion's Dive to the Heart portion (The fight with Roxas in Kingdom Hearts II) Stage 5: Ganondorf (Color 7) on New Pork City (Ally: Corrin) (The final fight with Xemnas in Kingdom Hearts II, with Corrin standing in for Riku) Stage 6: Lucina (Color 7) on Find Mii Omega (The fight with Anti Aqua in Kingdom Hearts III) Boss Stage: Dracula (This time referencing Xehanort himself)

[@Pooper]

I love thr idea of Dracula for Sora’s final boss

[@jackflynn412]

I think Joker's Classic Mode should have him fight Smash versions of the bosses from Persona 5. Round 1 - Versus Red Male Wii Fit Trainer to represent Kamoshida. It would be at Castle Siege. Round 2 - Versus a horde of Inklings to represent Madarame's Multicolored Duplicates during his boss fight. I honestly don't know what stage would fit. Round 3 - Versus a pink K. Rool to represent Kaneshiro. A giant gray Kirby could be his Piggytron. Once again, there really is no stage that fits. Round 4 - Versus a giant Charizard to represent the Sphinx. Stage would be Omega Mushroomy Kingdom. Round 5 - A giant Metal Lucina to represent a certain spoiler boss. Though, no stage fits a casino. Round 6 - A Kazuya in a suit and an orange Incineroar on the Pirate Ship. After you defeat them, a shirtless giant Kazuya attacks. Bonus Stage Then the final Boss Fight with the Hands is the same.

[@mattwo7]

4:53 It also appears in Final Fantasy XII as the Wyrmhero Blade, which is implied to have been stolen from Erdrick or one of his scions by Gilgamesh.

[@fyra_cat2119]

I love this, and I think lucina definetly needed a change since Byleth pretty much took her classic mode gimmick but made it better cuz of the really funny fight at the end where you have 7 allies

[@kirbygamer0640]

This is pretty interesting. And it looks like someone did their research! I feel like fans nowadays put more thought and effort into things like references and making things make sense, more than the actually companies do. Instead of having two characters who are paired into one go up against team battles...have them fight characters with mythical weapons with magical powers, since they themselves are just that. That's such an upgrade from the original and I love it. Even tiny things like giving Roy an actual final boss is amazing despite being such a simple fix!

[@KirbyatYT]

Since the Mii Fighters don’t even have a Classic Route in the first place for some reason, here’s an idea for them: “Dressed for the occasion”- Fights characters who have worn tons of outfits before, referencing the insane amount of Mii Costumes in Smash Round 1- Mario (Super Mario Odyssey) Round 2- Kirby (The different hats he gains from copy abilities) Round 3- Toon Link (Triforce Heroes) Round 4- Inkling (Style and appearance plays a decent role in Splatoon) Round 5- Villager (The immense amount of clothing in Animal Crossing) Round 6- Steve (Similarly to Villager, the immense amount of skins in Minecraft)

[@eshasunrise]

Incineroar's Classic Route could be based on Battle Royals from Sun and Moon, with them plus three other fighters in a free-for-all. Stage one would be against Pichu, Jigglypuff, and Squirtle as a Little Cup type thing. Stage two would be Red, Yellow, and Blue Byleths based on the House Leaders. Round three is Sora, Cloud, and Sephiroth in a Colosseum. Four has Bowser, Dedede, and K.Rool duking it out for lordship (or a heavyweight title). Five, between Terry, Ryu, and Kazuya as ace fighters. Six would be Lucario, Greninja, and Charizard as super strong Pokemon. In place of the Boss, Palutena, Bayonetta, and Mewtwo as deific level fighters, each giant. Also an idea for King K Rool; Renaissance Reptile! He would face off against characters with diverse skill sets like himself, starting with Isabelle, then Dr. Mario, Byleth, Toon Link, Sephiroth, and Steve. The boss would likely be Master Hand, but that's okay since the Hands are known for their eclectic playstyles anyway. Finally is Bayonetta doing what she does best: starting and preventing the apocalypse! She faces cataclysmic characters known for nearly ending their respective worlds. Snake, representing Big Boss's plan for eternal war, Kazuya for his Demon Blood, Sephiroth with his whole Geneva thing, Shulk because spoilers, and Kirby because it's hilarious and accurate. Wrapping things up would be Ganon, who just loves plunging Hyrule into a hundred years of darkness over and over and over again.

[@mattwo7]

1:18 Could have also gone with a grey bowser to match his Japanese boxart appearance from when he was still drawing inspiration from the Journey to the West character, Ox/Bull Demon King

[@IcyDiamond]

If you were to ever do the Mii Fighters, here’s what my ideas for each of them would be: Mii Brawler - Avatars Characters that act like a avatar for a player (Wii Fit Trainer, Villager, Steve) Mii Swordfighter - Creation Characters that have something to do with creation (Builder Mario, Steve, Olimar) Mii Gunner - The Wii Characters that debuted or had a major impact on the Wii (Rosalina & Luma, Shulk, Galleom)

[@WaterMeLoan64]

For Minecraft Steve, have him fight a Steve with a Final Smash as a reference to Herobrine.

[@joshithehealermii5230]

When you mentioned the new theme of the Classic Mode for the Aegis I thought "wouldn't it be funny if Steve/Alex where there? Their weapons are pretty iconic" and they actually were! I like the choice a lot

[@smashblaster1-up190]

I had this idea for Cloud's New Classic Mode, I thought about it being based on his journey and the people he'd met along the way, like the Mii Gunner & Brawler as Barret & Tifa on Midgar, Mii Swordfighter as Aerith on Garreg Mach Monastery, Dark Pit as Yuffie on Gaur Plain, Morton as Cait Sith on New Pork City, Joker as Vincent on Dracula's Castle and Byleth as Cid on Halberd with it all ending with Sephiroth on Northern Cave

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

This Pythra route is so much better man, props to it

[@ShutUpJoker]

Yoooooo sick!

[@chunkydawafflecat]

I think a good route idea is to change Falco's route to be based on Melee's adventure mode.

[@Alexzeolite]

Really did have it to where Mario’s Classic Mode where you have to fight Bowser three times. I would’ve put in the Mario Bros. 2 thing in instead of Lost Levels reference to add some variety. A Mario Land one against Wario on the GB Dream Land stage would’ve been cool and still in theme. That way, fighting Giga Bowser at the end would be less repetitive, given that would mark the third Bowser fought in the route.

[@thepsycheduck]

How about a Samus route based on specific Metroid enemies or characters? The third to last round would be Ridley, then Dark Samus, then a Giant Mecha-Ridley.

[@mrsonicfan21]

Just in case you do another video on fixing Classic Modes, I've got a GOOD one for Diddy Kong! It'd be entirely based on Diddy Kong Racing! Round 1 - Orange Incineroar (Timber) + Gray Lucario (Bumper) + Red Bowser (Tricky) Stage - Norfair (represents Dino Domain, specifically Hot Top Volcano) Round 2 - Red Fox (Conker) + Green Squirtle (Tiptup) + Blue King Dedede (Bluey) Stage - Battlefield Summit (represents Snowflake Mountain) Round 3 - Tiny Green Greninja (Frog), then Red Falco (Drumstick) + Flower Pichu (Pipsy) + Inkling (Bubbler) (Falco appears after defeating Greninja, referencing Drumstick's curse.) Stage - Tortimer Island (represents Sherbet Island) Round 4 - Banjo & Kazooie + King K. Rool (Krunch) + Red Charizard (Smokey) Stage - N64 Hyrule Castle (represents Dragon Forest) Round 5 - Pink Diddy Kong (Dixie Kong) + Zero Suit Samus (Tiny Kong) + Donkey Kong Stage - Kongo Jungle (represents the DK Island courses from DKRDS) Round 6 - Purple King Dedede (Taj) + Blue Pac-Man (T.T.) + Purple Ganondorf (Wizpig) Stage - Lylat Cruise (represents Future Fun Land) Boss Battle - Ganon (Wizpig rematch), with Timber Incineroar and Drumstick Falco as allies. Incineroar because DKR takes place on Timber's Island and Falco so he can get revenge on Wizpig for cursing him into a frog. (Maybe also add Conker Fox and Banjo as allies since they debuted in DKR and were the breakout stars into their own games, but that might be a bit too much...)

[@Fuges]

I think it’s really weird that there isn’t a classic mode route where you fight third party characters. So here’s mine Character: Sora (he’s the last one added & his standard route just feels like a repeat of other routes) Stage 1:Snake & Sonic on Shadow Moses Island. During this fight the Battlefield theme from brawl plays Stage 2:Mega Man & Pac-Man on Windy Hill zone. The battlefield theme from smash 4 plays Stage 3:Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta on Omega Suzaku Castle (referencing how omega stages made their debut in 4). The final destination theme from smash 4 plays Stage 4:Simon, Richter, and Ken on Draculas castle (battlefield form). The battlefield theme from ultimate plays here Stage 5:Joker, Hero, Banjo, and Terry on Spiral Mountain with Last surprise playing Stage 6:Steve, Sephiroth, and Kazuya on Hollow Bastion Boss: Dracula (Third party boss)

[@marxiplier4322]

For Lucina’s boss fight, you could have her fight Dracula, considering how he reappears every one hundred years. Not exactly time travel, but you put BOTW Link on there so in that case it works.

[@thebenwilbert]

Idea that I’ve suggested since the first video A classic mode where you fight Melee’s best characters, and on tournament legal stages. For example if we took Falco and changed his classic mode, it would look like this Round 1: Captain Falcon on Yoshi’s Story Round 2: Ice Climbers on Dreamland 64 Round 3: Peach on Fountain Of Dreams Round 4: Jigglypuff on Pokémon Stadium Round 5: Marth on Battefield Round 6: Fox on Final Destination Boss: Hands I guess

[@nateclone3828]

Bowser Junior New Route: When I'm Older... Fights against child and adolescent characters, each battle increasing in age. Battle 1: Pichu, called a "Baby Pokémon". On Pokemon Stadium. Battle 2: Young Link, age 9. On Great Bay. Battle 3: Lucas and Ness, age 12 and 13, respectively, on Onett. Battle 4: Roy, age 15, on Castle Siege. Battle 5: Little Mac, age 17, on Boxing Ring Battle 6: Shulk, age 18, on the battlefield form of Gaur Plain Boss: Mario on Delfino Plaza, references the full line the title of the route is based on; "...when I'm older, I wanna fight that Mario, again!"

[@SasukePhantomhive]

I have an idea for a new Cloud classic mode, it will remain the same name "A ride?, Not interested", changing some battles that I found kind of generic for some new ones or changing the order of others for represent Final Fantasy VII's events in vehicles. 1) Remain the battle againts Toon Link in Spirit Train but changing the music for "Opening - Bombing Mission". Refference to the begining of Final Fantasy VII 2) Changing to here the battle againts Captain Falcon in Big Blue. Refferecing the escape from Midgar in motoclycle. 3) A new battle againts a gigant Palutena in Pirate Ship with "JENOVA" as backgruond music. As a reference to the battle againts Jenova in Cargo ship from Junon to Costa del Sol. 4) A new battle againts Wario in Pilotwings. Referencing the Tiny Bronco obtention. Wario represents Palmer, and Pilotwings stage, the Tiny Bronco as they look similar. Fight On! as backgruond music. 5) The already existing battle againts Wolf in Lylat Cruise. Reference to space trip in the Shinra No. 26. 6) A battle in Cornelia as stage (referencing the Higwind), but changing Fox and Falco for Riddley, that represents Ultima Weapon, the stage represent the battles againts that boss on the Highwind. Let the Battles Begin! as music background. 7) Obviusly, changing the Hands for Sephiroth for the final battle. Northern Cave as stage and One Winged Angel as music.

[@enigmat05]

I have an idea for Richter's classic mode route: History of Vampire Hunting Richter's CM route consists of characters who aids the CV protagonists on their quest to defeat Dracula, like Shypa Belnades and Maria Renard. Level 1: You fight against a violet Zelda, who represents Maria Renard. The battle takes place on Omega form Dracula's Castle. After defeating Zelda, she'll join the player for the rest of the route, referencing Maria's alliances with Richter. Level 2: You, along with Zelda, fight against a blue Palutena and an orange Simon, who represents Shypa Belnades and Trevor Belmont, respectively. Trevor and Shypa both joined forces to defeat Dracula in Dracula's Curse. The battle takes place on normal form Dracula's Castle. Level 3: You and Zelda fight against a red Daisy and red Simon, who represents the Mysterious Woman and Simon Belmont, respectively. The Mysterious Woman is the one who informs Simon of his curse placed by Dracula, which sets up the events of Simon's Quest. The battle takes place on Delfino Plaza, representing Jova, the beginning stage of Simon's Quest. Level 4: You and Zelda fight against a white Richter and blue Daisy, who represents Leon Belmont and Sara Trantoul. The battle takes place on Dracula's Castle, representing Walter's Castle, where Sara, infected with vampirism, bonded her soul with Leon's Whip of Alchemy, turning it into the Vampire Killer. Level 5: You and Zelda fight a default Corrin and a pink Robin, who represents Soma Cruz and Yoko Belnades. The battle, once again, takes place on Dracula's Castle. Yoko Belnades serves as Soma's assistance in Aria of Sorrow. Level 6: Zelda will not join you on this battle. You will fight against a default Sephiroth, who represents Alucard. Alucard joins forces with Trevor after fighting to test the Belmont's skills. Level 8: You will fight against Dracula, solo.

[@samesu766white7]

This was fire

[@mylorian7740]

LET’S GOOO!!!

[@Robdestroyer16]

I know I’m late on this, but for R.O.B., he should have his fights based on The Subspace Emissary, since he was manipulated by Tabuu and have his fights based on confrontations from the characters within the story, like Mario and Pit, and probs keep the final boss Galleom.

[@enzo1673]

I have one for sonic Round 1: fox to represent tails Round2: knuckles mii fight tails is your partner Round3: you fight sonic in his black alt to represent shadow Round 4:a giant metal sonic to represent metal sonic Round 5: a red blue and yellow Kirby to represent speed power and flight in sonic heroes Round6 is the same as before The boss can be galleom to reference the many robots he fights in the series The stages are Green hill,green hill again, battlefield version of new pork city, fourside, halberd and windy hill

[@desertyoshi_plays]

Lucina could have fought against Chrom and Robin on Arena Ferox for the boss fight, referencing her second appearance in Fire Emblem Awakening where she battles against them as "Marth".

[@Joey36012]

I feel like it would be really cool to have a character with the same time travel aspect, maybe Lucina maybe someone else, idk, but they go backwards through gaming history. Like, start with one of the more recent characters like BOTW link or Wedding Mario, and end with someone like Donkey Kong or Mr. Game and Watch.

[@petesoys6348]

For Lucina's route, in the Sonic and Silver fight, you could've also added Shadow. He time travels a lot during 06 and, like BoTW Link, he stayed in a stasis pod for around 50 years before being freed by Eggman in Sonic Adventure 2. Just a little fix. Also, I still kind of wish that Sonic had a bit more in his Classic Mode, maybe just focusing on his history a little more. I mean, they didn't even have a Eggman reference when the Koopaling Roy was right there. Or maybe have him fight Galleom, since he's always taking down giant mechs and robots in his own game. Though it should totally start with a final fight against Roy before he runs off, kind of like how Eggman normally does. Or maybe a fight against a giant, metal Sonic wearing the orange alt, as a reference to Mecha Sonic MK.1 in Sonic 2. So many ideas, and so many missed opportunities.

[@chrisguara]

For Fox's Classic Route, I can't think much of it, other than changing the Final Stage to be an Omega Form of Venom, to reference the final boss battle against Andross since it's a floating head with giant floating hands

[@scribblebuddy3032]

Maybe you can make an mode based on The Super Mario Bros Movie (POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE) You start in Brooklyn, then the Mushroom Kingdom, maybe the Dark Lands, DK Jungle, Rainbow Road maybe, Bowser’s Sky Castle, and so forward.

[@elianhg2144]

What's the Brooklyn stage on ultimate bro

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

@elian hg21 probably New Donk City Hall. Honestly, I’d be more concerned about Bowser’s Castle (Rainbow Road and Dark Lands too, but you could just use Rainbow Cruise and Luigi’s Mansion for them. If only they didn’t cut the Rainbow Road stage…)

[@sonicandamyfan4ever]

@@elianhg2144 maybe Fourside since they go to Brooklyn at night to go fix the pipe? I'm not sure lol New Donk City Hall could maybe work too

[@John12346]

I good idea I've always had for improving Classic doesn't necessarily relate to one specific character route, but rather the Bonus Game played on every single route. The fact that there's only one single map used for the game ultimately ends up making the experiences of each Classic run feel a bit samey at times, so what I would suggest is the creation of four more maps - for a total of five - each with about the same level of difficulty as the original. And each run of Classic would choose one of the five maps randomly when the Bonus Game comes up. With this, a much better sense of variety could be injected into the Classic mode experience from a gameplay perspective. I would also suggest the implementation of Break the Targets as a secondary Bonus Game. Like the previous suggestion, it would have five maps, with one being chosen randomly each run, and would appear after the third round of each character's route. The size and difficulty of the maps would be very modest (so, NOT like the giant, sprawling BtT maps present in Brawl), to the extent that they can be cleared in about 20 to 30 seconds. Having this, as well as the expanded original Bonus Game, added to Classic mode would help add a lot of variety and interest to the overall experience.

[@HpyerfixationHub]

Pyra and Mythra: Double Duel Weilders *Round 1* Kirby: wields a hammer and a sword Kirby (8th costume) (only spawns when first one killed) (Meta Knight is the same species as Kirby) *Round 2* Olimar: uses 3+ Pikmin Alph (similar to Olimar) (only spawns when first one killed) *Round 3* Inkling (uses a variety of weapons) Inkling Boy (only spawns when first one killed) *Round 4* Villager (same as Inkling) Villager Girl (only spawns when first one killed) *Round 5* Byleth (boy) (same as previous 2) Byleth (girl) (only spawns when first one killed) *Round 6* Pokémon Trainer (has multiple Pokémon) Pokémon Trainer girl (only spawns when first one killed) *Boss* Ganadorf (1st stage) Ganadorf (boss) (2nd stage) (only spawns when first one killed) (has multiple swords)

[@HyperKadaj]

I think I have an idea for Daisy's route. Daisy's regular route has her knocking heads with other female characters from the base roster, including a bunch of Miis dressed as princesses and then culminating with a fight against Peach. The boss is Master Hand or both Hands if you're on 7.0+ intensity. This is my idea: Party Star! These represent her debuts, both in the main games and in the spinoffs she's known to play in. Battle 1: Daisy and Mario vs Morton. Stage is Mushroomy Kingdom. Music is "Underground Theme - Super Mario Land" This represents Daisy's debut game, Super Mario Land, with Morton standing in for Tatanga per his spirit battle. Mario teams up with her since he was the one who saved her from Tatanga's grasp. Battle 2: Daisy and Luigi vs Mario and Peach. Stage is Princess Peach's Castle Music is Mario Tennis/Mario Golf This represents NES Open Tournament Golf and Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour, the former being where Daisy appeared as Luigi's caddie. She's versing Mario and Peach this time since Mario was the rival to Luigi. The four are seen as a quartet in Toadstool Tour's opening cinematic. Battle 3: Daisy and Peach vs Wario (plumber outfit) and a purple Luigi (1.05x size) Stage is the Swordplay Colosseum area of Wuhu Island. Music is Stadium Theme - Mario Tennis Ultra Smash Represents her debut in Mario Tennis. She did play against Wario and Waluigi, whom the purple Luigi stands in for. She is Peach's default partner in most Mario Tennis games, and even represents how both teamed up to defeat them in Tennis Aces' story mode. Battle 4: Daisy vs Wario (plumber outfit), Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Peach, Mario, Luigi, and Purple Luigi (1.05x larger). Stage is Rainbow Cruise Music is Pandemonium (Mario Party 9) This represents her debut Mario Party 3, which spawns each opponent in the order where each playable character would appear in Story Mode. It even simulates an impossibility: Playing as Daisy in that Story Mode where you couldn't normally. Each character spawns in one at a time, always fighting one on one. Battle 5: Daisy and Peach vs Bowser and Bowser Jr. Stage is Figure 8 Circuit Music is Rainbow Road (Mario Kart Double Dash) This represents Daisy's Mario Kart debut, Mario Kart: Double Dash, where Peach was her default partner. Bowser and Bowser Jr. antagonize Peach and are default partners in this game, too. Battle 6: Daisy vs Peach Stage is Peach's Castle (64) Music is This represents Peach being a rival to Daisy. She won't be going easy on her. Boss Battle: Bowser, then Giga Bowser if on 7.0+ intensity Stage: Final Destination Music: King Bowser (Super Mario Bros 3), then Giga Bowser. This represents how, in Mario Party 3, she infamously sent Bowser flying into the sky with one slap. Plus, she hates Bowser due to how he always barges in and makes things worse just to settle his rivalry with Mario (as established in Tennis Aces). It also represents how Daisy can fight against Bowser in some of the spinoff titles' single-player modes despite him not considering her a worthy opponent.

[@oscarmoreno7228]

Joker's classic mode should be based on the palaces in the Persona 5 like the first being in a castle, second a museum, etc. And the fights should be based on the bosses you fight in said palaces.

[@malachaimills2283]

I've got a Classic Mode idea. How about this title for Mega Man's Classic Mode: The MEGA Replacers. And these battles in that route: ROUND 1: Mario X Sonic with the Smash Ball (because Mario is SUPER, And Sonic becomes SUPER SONIC when collecting 7 Chaos Emeralds.) Round 2: BIG Ridley with Samus by your side... In the Metal Gear Solid Omega Base. (Because Ridley is the first boss in Super Metroid.) Round 3: DARK LINK, PIT, SAMUS, and Meta Knight in Dracula's boss or no boss stage. (Because... Dark.) Round 4: Galacta Knight with Kirby by your side, in the Brawl lava-Everywhere stage (because the Galacta Knight boss fight in Kirby Return To DreamLand Deluxe is... Sorta in that stage...?) Round 5: Pac-Man, and the Spring-Man, and Proto Man Miis. In the Mega Man Wily's stage. (Because it's kinda look like a new Mega-Man fangame. I think.) Round 6: Master and Crazy Hands in Final Destination. (Because Master Man, and Crazy Man. You know?) Final Round: Giga Bowser [or pre-Giga Bowser then Giga Bowser...? idk.] In the Final Destination stage. Again. (...Melee!)

[@malachaimills2283]

Oh. And on Peach's Castle in the Round-1-Mario-X-Sonic-Smashball Battle because Mario and Sonic Tokyo 2020 Games has a dream event with Peaches castle called Dream Karate.

[@markgarrison7722]

I had a fun, meta idea for an alternate route for Snake called, "Kept you waiting, huh?" It would feature characters from games that kept fans waiting a long time between sequels, games we're still waiting for sequels to years later, or highly requested characters who finally made it into Smash Ultimate after a long time. Could include Banjo & Kazooie, Mii Gunner in the Geno costume, Sora, Cloud and/or Sephiroth, Ridley, King K. Rool, Simon and/or Richter, etc.

[@capstalker5539]

Pokémon Trainer can represent two gyms at each stage, so that all gyms can be included. 1. grey Kirby (rock) + Greninja (water) 2. Pikachu (electric) + Piranha Plant (grass) 3. Mii (Team Rocket) 4. Dark Samus (poison) + Ness (psychic) 5. Incineroar (fire) + grey King K. Rool (ground) 6. Ice Climbersr (ice) + Lucario (fighting) + Enderman (ghost) + Ridley (dragon) 7. Mewtwo

[@WS.Whisper]

As a Sonic fan, make it about him fighting his past and present enemies or rivals. And for the final battle make it Galleom referencing any robot enemy or Giganto from the new recent Sonic Frontiers. Couldn’t think of a name tho

[@Semi-Nobody]

I have two major routes I propose for you. One is for mewtwo, and the other is for game and watch. The first up being mewtwo, his classic mode is called "Psychic Control" and features him fighting different characters and then those said characters fighting along side him in a team up battle next round, basically mind controlling them. With some of the characters being those who where mind controlled in their home series such as Richter. This fits...okay with mewtwo, but I think we can make a much better alternative, that being "Melee stray" This time it features mewtwo fighting most of the newcomers from melee's roster, with their respective stages. This of course being a reference to him being a newcomer to melee himself. Here's how it goes. A fight with pichu on pokemon stadium, a fight with falco in Corneria, a fight with game and watch and ice climbers on flatzone, a fight with dr mario and peach on peach's castle (melee ver), a free for all with young link, sheik, zelda, and ganondorf on temple, a fight with marth and roy on castle seige (yes I know the FE reps didn't have a stage in melee), and finally, a fight on final destination with bowser, and then, giga bowser. Now for game and watch, his classic mode is called "A Long Legacy" and features him fighting "classic" characters or characters in their classic outfits, which is fine, the only problem is that pac man has the exact same route theme, and not only that, it's done a lot better with pac man. So, with mr game and watch being based off the game and watch handheld systems, why not make a route based off characters known for being on handheld consoles? This new route would be called "Handheld veteran" and would go like this. A horde battle with game and watches, a fight with kirby in his classic outfit on GB dreamland, a fight with samus in her fusion costume on the frigate orpheon, a fight with toon link on spirit train, a horde battle with the pokemon fighters on kalos Pokémon league, a fight with mario on new donk city hall, and finally a fight with marx, as he's the only boss (as much as I know) who's appeared on a handheld console. (kirby super star deluxe on DS)

[@DION3ON]

For Lucina: you should've made the Sora fight play on the spirit train, referencing steamboat willy, a micky mouse animation staged on a train (I think, I'm not an expert on the old disney cartoons, the title confuses me, making me think it's on a litteral steamboat, so correct me if i'm wrong with the previous stated info.)

[@jamessultan2252]

I always thought Ken shoud've had Richter's classic route, since Ken started out as a fighting game clone character (with a change to where Crazy Hand is the final battle). Maybe for Richter's Route, it'd be cool to lean into the Castle theme, so only castle-related stages (Peach's Castle 64 and Melee, Hyrule Castle, Castle Seige, Suzaku Castle, and Dracula's Castle). Smash-vania II: Richter's Quest, perhaps?

[@al.109]

Imagine routes for the Mario movies, Sonic movies, and Detective Pikachu

[@Overcooked.Nugget]

Here's an idea: make yoshis something like "arts and crafts" which has references to yoshis story, yoshis wooly world, and yoshis crafted world

[@_danielmartinez_]

the blue Bowser also references the final boss from Bowser's Inside Story

[@toonatic220]

For the ages fight you should have done a fight against cloud and sephiroth instead of byleth since their swords are much more iconic

[@mrgrump1003]

Piranha Plant’s classic mode should reference Petey Piranha’s appearance in Subspace Emissary, having him fight characters that the player would have unlocked at the time of fighting him, along with the two princesses he kidnapped.

[@OracleNerdRichie]

Honestly, I got an idea for a Classic Mode fix It is for Wario and I call it "Greedy Gluttons". This would have Wario fight characters who eat a lot or are just plain greedy for something. Fighters he takes on will be (in order) Kirby, Pac-Man, Yoshi, King Dedede, Mii Fighters with the Marx Hat (It was revealed that he was just hungry), and King K. Rool as the penultimate boss, due to his greed for bananas. The boss can be Bowser followed by Giga Bowser because Bowser himself is greedy for power and control.

[@eshasunrise]

Oh, another idea! A Pac-Man route that uses characters who've been on Arcade Cabinets: Mario & DK, Little Mac, Ryu & Ken, Terry, Sonic, Kazuya, and Dracula as the boss

[@Kongumon]

One of your changes in the Mario path also ends up being a reference to the movie. I won't say which one tho.

[@Superemie401]

Man, it’s been too long! I was thinking about a new path for Falco: Everyone deserves a rival. In big, Falco would team up with sidekicks to defeat their greatest rival, referring how Falco always helps Fox and his friends defeat the Star Wolf team. He starts by teaming up with Luigi to defeat another Luigi wearing the Waluigi alt. Then, Yoshi Vs a little Bowser (Yoshi’s Island ref) on Yoshi’s Island, Diddy against King K.Rool on a jungle place, Zelda Vs Ganondorf at Hyrule, Lucina against two Robins (referring how Lucina fought Grima, who possessed Robin.) in the place I don’t remember and Lucario against Mewtwo (I choose Lucario, referring how Lucario is the first Pokémon Falco teams up in the Subspace Emissary.) on Meta Knight’s ship. The final fight is against Wolf, Crafted Yoshi, Wario and Diddy Kong, referring the Star Wolf Team, on Venom. Then, Crazy Hand will show up, referring Andross, the Star Fox Team’s archenemy. In the second to last fight, Fox, a green Greninja and a grey king Dedede will help Falco in this fight. Each of them represent one of Falco’s teammates: Fox is self explanatory, Greninja represents Slippy and Dedede represents Peppy. In the last fight, only Fox will help his second in command. This is meant to reference two games: the first one is Star Fox Adventure, where Falco, while playing a minor role in the game, is the one who ultimately helps Fox defeat Andross. But this is also a reference to Star Fox 2, where the duo control the same type of Arwing.

[@BowserMovies1989]

Mewtwo’s Classic mode (keep the stages and music): Battle 1: vs x2 Lucas (1 with regular colors and 1 with Claus’s colors) Battle 2: (with Lucas) vs Cloud Battle 3: (with Cloud) vs Ryu and Ken Battle 4: (replace Ken with Ryu due to Evil Ryu) vs Richter Battle 5: (with Richter) vs Palutena and Pit Battle 6: (replace Pit with Palutena (due to her mind control in “Uprising” and Mewtwo’s control over Nurse Joy in “Pokémon the First Movie” and it’s CGI remake)) vs Pokémon Trainer, Pikachu, and Lucario (referencing Ash Ketchum who faced Mewtwo in “Pokémon the First Movie,” it’s CGI remake, and “Pokémon Journeys”) Final Boss: (with Pokémon Trainer and Pikachu referencing Ash Ketchum who teamed up with Mewtwo in “Mewtwo Returns,”) vs Ganondorf/Ganon (referencing Giovanni, then Giovanni being corrupted by the Reveal Glass in "Pokémon Black and White: Rival Destinies") with Mii Brawlers (1 male with purple hair and 1 female with red hair with Team Rocket outfits (referencing Jessie and James) and 1 with cat suit (referencing Meowth)) (replacing Master and Crazy Hand)

[@DarkOverlord96]

I think Mario being "generic" is honestly fitting since he IS the most basic and simple character in the roster so it makes sense that Nintendo's iconic mascot would have a Classic Mode about him going through Nintendo's history as a good place to start.

[@BeatAces]

I don't know how editable they are with mods but I'd love to see the bonus stage diversified to fit the fighters classic mode.

[@bg20473]

For Bayonetta classic mode,I change round 1 to the pit horde for the affinity angels because they show up first thing in the prologue.I would change round 6 to a fight against alt 5 jeanne with Red and Black playing in the background a reference to all the fights they had in bayo 1 and Red and Black plays every time you fight her.Also references their rivalry with each other.For final round I would add a Robin to reference Balder who was responsible for Jubileus resurrection first Robin then the giant Palutena for Jubileus.

[@rambuskey]

You could’ve had Lucina battle Bowser as a reference to Mario & Luigi Partners in Time

[@danieljuelfs6]

I got a classic mode idea for Sora is a semi-nod to the Kingdom Hearts series and Disney 100 year anniversary. The route name be called Battles of 100 Memories in nod to two things being the 100 year anniversary of Disney and a clever nod to Kingdom Hearts Melody of Memory. Battle 1: Sora in his Timeless River attire on the stage Pictochat 2 in reference to the Timeless River world being based on Disney’s early days of black and white cartoons. Battle 2: A giant Meta Knight in his green attire at the stage Fountain of Dreams in omega form as a stamina battle acts as a reference to the Magic Mirror from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and the boss fight against that said mirror in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Battle 3: Palutena in her black attire at a hazard-less version of Bridge of Eldin that when defeated a giant Ridley appears. Like battle two this be also a stamina battle, but this one is a reference to the world Enchanted Dominion which based on Sleeping Beauty. The Palutena and Ridley is a reference to Maleficent on how she can become a dragon. Battle 4: A red King K. Rool at Luigi’s Mansion with Joker on Sora’s side. This one is a reference to The Nightmare before Christmas with Joker as a stand in for Jack Skellington and King K. Rool for Oogie Boogie. Battle 5: A R.O.B. and a Mii Gunner in a cowboy look at the stage Living Room in reference to Toy Story. The Mii Gunner is a reference to Woody and R.O.B. is a nod to how Buzz Lightyear is a sci-fi hero toy. Battle 6: A group of Mr. Game and Watches and Ender-men on a battlefield form of Find Mii in reference to the events of Kingdom Hearts where Sora got his keyblade. The horde battle is a stamina battle too. The enemies is a reference to the Heartless. Final Battle: A fight at Final Destination against a blue Ganondorf, a black Dr. Mario, a giant purple Squirtle, a red King K. Rool, a Mii Sword-fighter in a red pirate attire, a giant Ridley, and Wario. This be a reference to Disney having a lot of villains. All are a reference to Hades from Disney’s Hercules, Jafar from Disney’s Aladdin, Ursula from Disney’s The Little Mermaid, Oogie Boogie from The Nightmare before Christmas, Captain Hook from Disney’s Peter Pan, Maleficent from Disney’s Sleeping Beauty in her dragon form, and Pete from the Mickey Mouse cartoons.

[@KingofBeasts444]

Not sure if anyone has done this, but a cool one for Ryu should be "vs. Capcom" where he fights characters who resemble characters in the many crossovers of Capcom. 1. Dark Samus, green Donkey Kong, and Captain Falcon on the Wily Castle stage. (referenceing Marvel vs Capcom 1 with War Machine, Hulk, and Captain America and the fact Iron Man was not in MvC1) 2. red Shiek, blue Snake, and green Daisy in Fourside (references Spider-man, Cable and Rogue in New York) 3. Mii Swordsmen (Zero), Mii Swordsmen (Arthur) and Mii swordsmen (Dante) in New Donk City (Capcom characters that joined in MvC3 also reference New York) 4. Simon Belmont, Mii Gunner (X), and Mii Swordsmen (Monster Hunter) in Palutena's Temple (references MvCi where Ultron Sigma took over Asgard) 5. Terry in the King of Fighters stage. (Capcom vs SNK) 6. Kazuya in the Mishima Dojo (Street Fighter x Tekken) 7. Mega Man and Sonic (referencing Worlds Collide and Worlds Unite from the Archie Comics) (both would be metal to refer to the Robotozed masters with Wily as an assist trophy on the Windy Hill stage) 8. Ken is the boss in his violent Ken alt. Also in the Mishima Dojo (referencing not only Ken and Ryu's rivalry but also Akuma being a final boss and also his appearance in Tekken 7)

[@dippin4dots]

I think the Mii's should take over the place of Mario's Classic Mode. The Miis dont have one, but it would make sense. Maybe Brawler takes on the older pre-2000s Nintendo Franchises (Mario, Zelda, Kid Icarus, Metroid, F-Zero, Kirby, Pokemon, and a boss being giant Iwata, Reggie, and Sakurai miis. Iwata and Reggie to reference the Wii U trailer, and Sakurai for obvious reasons.), swordie takes over the post 2000s eras (Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Wario Ware, Splatoon, Xenoblade, Dark Samus + Lucario + Toon Link (Old series, new characters in 2000s), Dark Pit + Lucina + Alph (Old series, new characters 2010s) finishing off with Galleom a boss from the 2000s. And Mii Gunner can fight 3rd party characters in a timeline order* (Pacman+ Simon, Ryu + Ken+ MegaMan, Hero + Terry, Richter + Kazuya + Cloud, Sephiroth + Banjo and Kazooie, Sora + Steve + Bayonetta + Joker, Giant Snake and Giant Sonic* [First 3rd party characters in smash], boss being Dracula being the only 3rd party boss. These are fairly boring routes, but miis are fairly boring characters.

[@rock7176]

Sora's route: The Bitter-Sweet end. He fights all the past Dlc characters (I recommend mixing characters that fit the same theme- min min Kazuya and Terry should be together- stage morph???). Fights should be on characters new stage

[@WaterMeLoan64]

Do a route based on the 1993 Super Mario Bros. Movie!

[@Pedro999Paulo]

I have an ideia for R.O.B. classic route it is called Hardware Battle, the ideia is to represent consoles, handhelds, and peripherals since R.O.B itself was one, the order goes based on the oldest to newest hardware piece. 1)Mr. Game and Watch on Flat Zone X (self explanatory. released on 1980) 2)Duck Hunt on Duck Hunt (Making reference to the Zapper peripheral that is used on Duck Hunt game and moveset. release on 1984) 3)R.O.B. on 75m Battlefield form (Gyromite, one of the few games that use R.O.B. on the NES, has girders that resemble the ones on 75m. release on 1985) 4)Marx on Dream Land GB (this is more because the Stage who actually include the boarders of the gameboy in it making it a reference to the handheld not only Kirby, I now Marx doesnt appear on this game, but I dont think any boss really matchs my ideia, so at least the boss make sense with the stage, released on 1989) 5)Lucario on PictoChat 2 (this obviouslly represent DS as PictoChat was a mode on it. I choose Lucario because main line Pokemons games are famouslly realesed only on handheld and Lucario is from the one that released on DS. released in 2004) 6)Wii Fit Trainer on Wii Fit Studio (Representing the Wii Balance Board used on the Wii Fit series. release on 2007) 7)Hoard of Miis on Find Mii (Find Mii representing the 3DS Street Plaza aplication (kind of the same logic than Pictochat but less iconic) and Miis wearing hats found in that mini-game, which means for the 1st time Miis represent Miis instead of using it to represent another character. released on 2011) Notes: Idk how much fisable is to put Marx on Dream Land GB stage, so I backup option is to just use grey Kirby like in Mr. Game & Watch route, and made Master Hand the boss on Pictochat, since you need a hand to write I guess.

[@fedorcreative78]

Idea for Simon’s new classic mode Mirror of fate 1 round against Robin (colour 3 music Black night stage Bridge of Eldin ) 2 round Ganondorf (colour 7 music Cross your heart stage:castle of Dracula) 3 round against Zelda and Daisy (Colour 2 for Zelda and colour 5 music dance of illusions stage:Castle siege throne room) 4 round wolf (colour 7 music:Out of time stage Dracula castle Ω) 5 round giant Ridley (colour 5 music:Dwelling of Doom stage:Castle siege Throne room) 6 stage Simon (2 colour music nothing to lose stage: Kalos Pokémon League music:nothing to lose) Final stage Simon (2 colour Music nothing to lose stage: Dracula castle music ) In 2 round Simon has Allie Pit (colour 2)