How Ian's Tyler The Creator Response Just Made Things Worse...

[@medinaw94]

If you know exactly who Tyler was talking about, the problem isnt Tyler, its Ian for actually doing what Tyler put a spotlight on

[@piccoloblack]

Right. if the shoe fits type shit

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

Jvke looking ass rapper

[@Solomon-fp1jq]

Facts

[@sad.octobxrrs]

Exactly… I don’t understand why he’s getting so much shit rn.

[@userX_00]

This is the best comment I've seen surrounding the topic. Everyone knew exactly who he was talking about without saying a name😂

[@Resilient_Brilliance]

Anyone saying Tyler, The Creator is old and out of touch, never listened to Tyler, The Creator’s music in the first place. Odd Future came out and sounded like nobody else. They were influenced by many but you could hear their influence without it being a direct ripoff or a bad impression.

[@Dontclickmychannellll]

Exactly bro

[@Phosfit]

Bro, Tyler won't stop rapping about driving his grand kids to school.

[@SkisnwOnTop]

@@Phosfithere comes tyler again rapping about his 401k again🙄

[@pinkmechnicalpencil-x7m]

@@SkisnwOnTop i mean what yall want him to rap about atleast he lives it

[@SkisnwOnTop]

@@pinkmechnicalpencil-x7m its a joke mate

[@Pugings]

Ian is nowhere near where Tyler was even a decade ago. Even Tyler's worst, earliest work had more cohesive artistic vision, better storytelling, and more influence. While Tyler did lean into some gimmicks he payed respects to the Eminem's, Jay-z's, and Kanye's that inspired him. I don't see Ian holding a consistent following even 2 or 3 years from now, while even through all of Tyler's bullshit he maintained cultural and artistic relevance.

[@AlsoCOMANI]

Amen

[@verseloll]

facts, in my opinion bastard is better than goblin but id rather listen to yonkers or she on repeat than ians album 😭😭

[@KydLives]

@@verselollscratch that, if I ever got interrogated by the FBI and they gave me the choice to listen to Ian’s whole discography or Tyler’s tron cat on repeat, I’d choose tron cat.

[@verseloll]

@@KydLives W

[@hellotherefifteen]

​@@KydLivesno fr I tried to give Ian a chance, and it's actually straight up dog shit. no joke. also calling Tyler "old" is wild to me 😭😭

[@gabrieldukicchuks2058]

Who the actual fuck is Ian bro 💀💀 This is the first time I've heard about this guy

[@OVOPubert]

Fr bro

[@XeNo_Drxpzy]

Ima be honest, I only know Ian cause he made a song with yachty

[@Burstroom]

exactly

[@callumroberts8093]

U living under a rock

[@kamdynthecreator]

a white rapper imitating other peoples flows and voice

[@OfficialRayyJayy]

Ian's immaturity proved Tyler was right

[@gamingclub7877]

If I understand what tyler is saying, isn't it what eminem said in 2018?

[@mrlofi333]

@@gamingclub7877nope not even close

[@kelechi_77]

Ian is like the Gen Z Vanilla Ice

[@name3236]

no it didn’t tyler said nothing about maturity lmaooo. dumbass people always saying shit that sounds right but makes no sense

[@paulvalenzuela7994]

Tyler is just jealous that real rap has accepted Ian

[@Alex-vm6ef]

Ian is a symptom of a problem that's been getting worse for 10+ years, yet the artists embodying it keep getting more popular

[@FerociousPaul]

Nah they never last. No one's going to remember Ian in a year or two, there will be another clown that people are gawking at.

[@draco_1876]

Bro in a year he’s going to fall off

[@jaelenwinfreySWD]

What’s the problem I’m deadass confused

[@snaymane.]

what’s the problem

[@gideondayo7970]

@@jaelenwinfreySWDfr some people acting like it’s a crime for Ian to just make songs that sound good idc how deep and how much he has to relate to it cuz that’s really not my problem

[@Chicago311zero]

I love Tyler’s music but I’ll never forgive Tyler for making me have to find out who Ian is 😂😂😂

[@rethabilemoloi3490]

True that 💀

[@shyne152]

Brooo yall some old heads

[@Chicago311zero]

@@shyne152 I’m 32 lmao 🤣

[@shyne152]

@@Chicago311zero yeah you getting up there unc

[@ragsnsack]

@@Chicago311zero dawg youre as old as tyler 🤣

[@theboi5584]

Ian is the most "I am an Industry Plant” artist I’ve seen in a while

[@StatikKkK]

Which isnt a bad thing

[@KanyeUA]

@@theboi5584 4batz

[@michaelbennett8914]

It is

[@Relyk260]

I’d argue ice spice is the largest plant

[@skrtbruh9161]

People really just don't know what an industry plant is anymore, it has suddently lost all it's meaning when people throw it around all the fucking time.

[@JingelJjay]

I think Kendrick and Tyler want to start a culture vs. industry war.

[@yolomasta6940]

That's because guys like Kendrick and Tyler actually care about music and the culture and guys like Drake and Ian who just put out mass appeal garbage are killing the genre

[@triplekkris]

@@yolomasta6940 tbh drake did care about culture at one point, his albums like iyrtitl, nwts, and his earlier works talk about issues he faced

[@MGhafoer]

​@@triplekkrisThe thing is that a lot of his music is stolen from other smaller artists. Take Care is basically The Weeknd's album and Abel was quick to realize what Drake was up to, even Kdot saw how fake he was. Can't believe ppl actually thought Jimmy Wheelchair came from the bottom.🤔

[@triplekkris]

@@MGhafoer it's not really that, he was credited and everything its just the weekend wanted to not be in the shadows yk?

[@SkisnwOnTop]

@@triplekkrisat that point he was straight up stealing tracks and shit. plus he didnt care in the kendrick way. Drake “cares” in the “i want to be respected in hip hop

[@comfykeegs]

Tyler’s physical sales and solid fan base make him goated: he’s literally one of the only people in hiphop to get better and more talented as he ages

[@wint3ryyy]

Fr

[@KeepTheCulture]

You detailed the issue but not the the problem; which is Lucian's son - he's the one propping up these talent-less industry plants. Look at his artist roster the past 10 years. All meme rapper bullshit.

[@Sxrreal420]

Facts.

[@vexcxxyalt]

It’s crazy this shit ruined the music industry

[@FerociousPaul]

​@@vexcxxyalt the audience is responsible as well. Labels do whatever gets them the most attention.

[@1lonewolfbeats]

Most sane thread

[@vexcxxyalt]

@@FerociousPaul that’s y the music industry is failing the audience does not what Ian wack ass music

[@Luka_MK]

Tf is Ian😂

[@OVOPubert]

Ong

[@grovestjm]

tha goat

[@89him]

@@grovestjmOk bro 😂

[@connorm.3158]

Im sayin bro just spawned

[@kyngqyou444]

​@grovestjm yall call just anybody that shyt now. Don't really hold weight no more

[@nathanmonka8561]

Honestly I believe after the Kendrick and drake beef it caused the entire culture to kind of take a look at itself and like fully start to see like what have we been consuming for the last few years and is it something we need for the future I mean it’s always been like that in some cases but now it feels like everything we’ve have been given for the past few years is really coming into question here

[@mohamedfahad2364]

That’s the point Kendrick was driving home. Drake is an avatar of the bastardization of hip hop.

[@SoulTrybe]

That was exactly Kendrick’s point. How can somebody as unseasoned, uncultured and dorky as Drake be the face of hip hop??

[@waterbean1522]

Fr it literally woke the culture up and the themes of that beef align with the points made in this vid

[@waterbean1522]

@@mohamedfahad2364🎯

[@allaboutthemurzic]

@@mohamedfahad2364Kendrick is overrated asf and his stans are the worst fanbase in hiphop

[@RibsTouching]

Because of Tyler, I now know about that fool, which sucks.

[@comfykeegs]

You watched the video. He didn’t even say his name

[@Michael-k9f8o]

U would have found out anyway, haters like u only fuel the fire 🤷‍♂️

[@jt9800]

@@Michael-k9f8o found Ian's burner

[@Artemis-re6yj]

Same!!! I had no idea who the hell Ian was before all this! Wish I could unlearn who he is.

[@Michael-k9f8o]

@@Artemis-re6yj ur on the spectrum

[@Jinz3]

1st Kendrick, now Tyler.... West Coast is seriously course correcting rap music

[@Austin-c6d]

Always been that way

[@gsmprodofficial]

Give me 3K on the flute before Ian (even though 3K is ATL so not West)

[@blaviation]

​@@gsmprodofficial the slang word pussy rolls off the tongue with far better ease than the proper word vagina, do you agree?

[@Mushtaps]

Good luck. Nobody cares about the west coast😂

[@sharkyshark6760]

@@Mushtaps yet all your favorite rappers move to cali 😂

[@cantu7214]

the biggest problem is these new gen white kids who think that Ian represents what rap is supposed to be.

[@gsmprodofficial]

White dude here - you're not wrong at all. I listened to Ian to give it a fair chance and it's the same corporate, label-pushed materialistic and oversexual junk that's been flowing out for many years now. Makes me miss the days of Tribe and Outkast even more...

[@MGhafoer]

​@@gsmprodofficialThey want to make him the new Drake. The industry couldn't win so it's only convenient to promote this bs. His fans are already cult-like.

[@Shyknit]

I didn't fully see a problem until I heard him talk without the rap voice and also realized he didn't grow up in a hood lol. It's weird af how obviously he's cosplaying certain things like that mabu guy. Why can't they just rap and not pretend like they are/did go through something. And if they did go through something why can't they rap about that. Dude is talking about praying he makes it to Friday like he's got ops 💀

[@gamingclub7877]

why is it the white kids only, Hopsin and Dax exist and meme rappers that are black exist

[@gamingclub7877]

@@Shyknit oh this time white guy stuff will work.

[@sandlotkrew8778]

Imagine calling Tyler old and he looks exactly the same as he did when he dropped Yonkers.

[@ToMy_Kore]

🤤

[@satisfied6574]

@@ToMy_Kore📸🤨

[@MisunderstoodPupil]

Wild af Tyler is not old at all

[@Belowone]

tyler never mentioned his name, ian and his manager are trying to milk this and insert themselves into tylers conversation so they can trend more into the industry.

[@Benjigo936]

He doesn’t have to say the name who else could he be talking about

[@Belowone]

@@Benjigo936 cus Ian isn’t the only one. there’s a lot of white rappers that do the same. It’s the new version of SoundCloud rappers but it comes from tiktok, internet influencers, or hood meme rap. None of them come from a musical background. It really is fast food music for the industry. easy to make , easy to put out, makes it hard for real musicians to get there name out there.

[@wowdude2624]

​@@Belowone name 3 lmao

[@lo.lo_marie]

Projection lol. Or..ya know “if the shoe fits”

[@deezhuevitos]

@@Belowonenettspend and lil mabu

[@vitamin_cplus]

what's happening with ian is the equivalent of someone like bhad bhabie being held to the same level of quality such as kanye, kendrick, rocky, etc when in reality he's no better than lil pump or ugly god

[@vxnomous8818]

ugly god is better than both lil pump and ian tho

[@29yami]

nah lil pump could actually make something halfway decent unlike ian

[@mies626]

@@vxnomous8818if u wanna debate that bad on who takes last or second last place, go ahead

[@vxnomous8818]

@@mies626 lil pump is better than ian

[@SamajeTheCreator]

Tyler not that old wtf😭

[@valor7634]

30 is like 45 to this new generation

[@tbfnoend9818]

@@valor7634they’d be lucky to even make it that far themselves at this point tbh

[@souprah]

​@@tbfnoend9818 You literally have a Ninjago profile picture.....

[@tbfnoend9818]

@@souprah and? You literally have an anime profile so what 💀😂

[@ArcadianWaheela]

@@valor7634 This type of logic is why this new generation be listening to people like Ian 💀

[@schoolroadentertainment7631]

Why can't dudes be an original white rapper like Eminem, Mac Miller, Action Bronson or the Professor??? Is it really that hard for y'all?

[@SkisnwOnTop]

cause sadly very few original white rappers make it. Think about it. Action bronson?? the professor???? aesop rock???? All talented people but they dont sell like eminem

[@schoolroadentertainment7631]

@@SkisnwOnTop Fair, and to be honest I feel like that's a fault on the culture ESPECIALLY when these dudes have been nothing but respectful to OG's and originators of the genre. We gotta show them love to. But that being said, I don't think any rapper black or white is eclipsing Marshall. That nibba different

[@Shady_Intentions]

I thought action Bronson was black😭😭😭

[@XarronChaos]

@@Shady_Intentions Man I will level with you on this. I thought Em was black as well when I first heard his song on the radio until I saw his music vid 😭

[@srgest9653]

Slug from Atmosphere is another underrated rapper.

[@longlivebeans]

Ian will never make an IGOR.

[@KajunSpxcy]

What typa comparison is that? Ian doesn’t even have that kinda sound.

[@rashlees]

IGOR is a masterpiece

[@tbfnoend9818]

@@KajunSpxcyhe can’t even if he tried 😭🙏

[@KajunSpxcy]

@@tbfnoend9818 yeah I know. That’s why i said it’s not a real comparison. Ian doesn’t have that sound

[@Bravewhales]

NEVER

[@VarietyJoe]

Tyler never even came into the game mocking the rap game, he just said a lot of shit he knew would get controversy but besides all that you can see his pure love for hip hop and all music in his production and attitude and marketing

[@doommega]

Ian indirectly is the offspring of a young tyler. it's weird No One on this response have forgotten tyler himself has did some anti black shit on his come up, he challenge the fundamentals of the culture himself, now as he became seasoned and wise he is now witness the " children " he may indirectly be responsible for...

[@thamacaveli3548]

Him just firing back at Tyler is only proving Tyler right

[@Ihyreven]

Where did he fire back at Tyler? This guy's just shitting out content by overanalyzing lyrics and mfs are eating it tf up

[@thamacaveli3548]

@@Ihyreven There's something called watching the video before commenting bud💀😭💀

[@Ihyreven]

@@thamacaveli3548 You think I didn't watch? 😂

[@thamacaveli3548]

@@Ihyreven Based off that comment, i would say so💀🙏

[@Ihyreven]

@@thamacaveli3548 My comment was my opinion and view on the whole thing and from what I saw he simply overanalyzed lyrics and was reaching the entire time to try and make it seem like Ian was tryna directly diss Tyler 😂

[@SplendidNinja]

Ian clearly makes middle schooler music 😂😂😂 Bro is a joke

[@Choccymilkaddict]

He's bootleg yeat

[@YayFan]

@@Choccymilkaddictand yeat is bootleg carti 😭

[@Choccymilkaddict]

@YayFan that's why I listen to carti and not yeat

[@musicthemusicalperson4316]

​​@@YayFanNah, Yeat is legit. Ian is not. They're not the same or comparable. Yeat actually is a really talented producer and is trying to expand his artistic and overall sonic skill set. He was inspired by Carti, yes, but he also was inspired by a lot of other trap rappers. Yeat actually genuinely cares about his subgenre of music, and is actively trying to evolve himself as an artist, as well as evolve the overall trap lane to a higher level. His last album was way more sonically interesting than the overwhelming majority of his peers and showed he's actually committed to growth.

[@YayFan]

@@musicthemusicalperson4316 holy yap

[@BasedGuvNah]

LMAO the irony of him calling Tyler "out of touch" when Ian is the most out of touch artist in the game that ive seen

[@OutsideDontClear]

basically any drake-like rappers need to leave cause its not your business anymore

[@85jordan-bn4kq]

This dude looks like some random kid who works at walmart

[@beautifullove320]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@deshaunmeans81]

No one knows who tf Ian even is

[@imgoth]

i do

[@TheClarinettes]

Ian's dad is a record executive, Ian is an industry plant

[@NChapaWI9436]

Ian is way too mid to be talking trash

[@WOWMW]

i dont like ian either but hes making bag bro music is art and its subjective its like any other art why do you care about what happens listen to the stuff you like and don't care about the stuff you don't like its not that big of a deal

[@ruth-cameron]

@@WOWMW Music is supposed to be an art. Using a weathered toothbrush and water to paint your canvas, creates a mediocre and a straight-up bland art piece. Yet Ian is just using this same tactic to make easy money, 'inspiring' newer artists to use this overused infinite money glitch. This creates a cause & effect of us getting blander and blander tracks throughout the years, until its just the same beat over and over again.

[@adamlegros1180]

Industry treating Ian like Eminem when he’s really Vanilla Ice

[@TheSickGman09]

Doesn't make much sense to me. Tyler's early music was basically horror core which hadnt been popular in a long time. Ian is biting the popular sound for clout. Not sure how those are comparable.

[@7Venhe4rts]

(Which hadn’t been popular for a long time) This guy😭💀💀🙏🏾

[@2w0nGranTurismo]

@@7Venhe4rtshorrorcore at the time Tyler was rapping ab it WASNT mainstream anymore what did he say wrong, or you jus like being a clown

[@TheSickGman09]

@@7Venhe4rts I mean other than relapse what album came out around that time that was horror core and popular?

[@TheSickGman09]

@@2w0nGranTurismo yeah I mean other than a couple of Eminem albums it's hard for me to think of a popular horror core album after 2000

[@Jojoisyoboy8500]

I never heard of Ian in ny life

[@nadinethomas351]

"Im just tryna be myself, i got everybody mad at me for it." -IAN

[@anthonyleach7608]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who has never heard of Ian

[@shiningforce9033]

All of them "not like us" need to get out of what we created. And go off somewhere create their own and be successful in that.

[@Ejnn]

We? 😂

[@Texastrue43]

Just say you hate white people bro

[@dpw0499]

@@Ejnnbro is lost, he’s just a spectator like us😭

[@Thegreatestmf1]

We 😂🫵?who tf are you bruh?!!!!!!

[@NoYes-uq2tz]

Who?

[@ClydeCyrus]

smart kid 🤣🤣🤣 best way to respond to drama is more music. He definitely did not waste time after that Tyler clip.

[@celondelon351]

The industry is playing in our faces and wants rap to become its cash cow.

[@carsonjones9696]

why does everyone act like ian is tryna be some legendary rapper. hes just making music and having fun and taking that bag :(

[@RafSimonsOnNoTrippin]

They’re either jealous or just have zero clue about who Ian is. Kids been rapping for years on SoundCloud. They really mentioned him “walking out like yachty” as an example of him copying rappers when it’s more of a homage than anything. It’s wild coming from Tyler who literally makes music tailored for white kids.

[@flabbergabbers]

Ian is trying to get people mad at him to gain fame. His stuff sounds like a watered down Ken Carson with decent production and bad lyrics. He's trying TOO hard to get money and not even trying to respect the culture, his lyrics have 0 emotion.

[@samosaman7s]

@@RafSimonsOnNoTrippinglaze

[@RafSimonsOnNoTrippin]

@@samosaman7s yeah man Tyler rapping about raping women is really for the culture frfr

[@NO-ce9gg]

@@RafSimonsOnNoTrippinyou listen to one song off of Goblin and make that your entire argument.

[@og_mante5138]

When Ian falls off, Tyler will still be around. This moment doesn’t really matter.

[@alfredopernillacante9585]

Tyler made him Famous

[@Topbandgetter]

Don't even say some 🍆🚴‍♀️ shi like that😂😂😂

[@ReptillianRapist62]

Ian is Tyler’s Taylor swift

[@alfredopernillacante9585]

​@Nationeternal there is a difference between getting a clip of your song in edits and people knowing your name. I'm not the only one who didn't know the existence of this guy until Tyler talked about him

[@hoodieddespair]

​@alfredopernillacante9585 I guess it's a Tikky Tok thing, because I never even heard the song. Nor him.

[@Swavae]

​@NationeternalBro Tyler made him

[@MommyMaggot]

A Tyler Diss track would go SO HARD (Not towards Ian)

[@Choccymilkaddict]

Ian sucks

[@7Venhe4rts]

This guy💀

[@waterbean1522]

He NOT worth a diss track lmao

[@MommyMaggot]

@OVO_Tyler BEYOND TRUE

[@KajunSpxcy]

That would make Tyler look so corny. Ian is a kid having fun making music, Tyler is an established artist who’s already made his mark on the industry.

[@LIL5LIME5TAR]

you dont get it. ian is a reflection of us, the fans. his public image is how the majority of us act in real life... thats why ppl love him so much

[@Relyk260]

“Here’s a concept that works 100 million white rappers emerge”

[@snaymane.]

it’s 1 white guy bro relax

[@paxton007]

who df is Ian wtf 😂😂😂 Ian looks like a dork like me tbh he looks like paxton 🤓

[@yuungblade8136]

Isn’t your name Paxton

[@paxton007]

@@yuungblade8136 im a loserrr ur mans is jus like meee loooool 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Matt23070]

NEW DISS WAR PLEASE I FUCKIN BEGGG TYLER, THE CREATOR VS INDUSTRY PLANTS

[@DizzyFig2909]

Ian is saying all this but he literally has nothing within his works to back it up, what will this achieve? Ian is just a copy and paste clone of those before him, and the fact Tyler didn’t even say his name really proves Tyler’s point. I feel like he’s definitely gonna undergo a similar fate as ice spice, just another generic name left to be forgotten. And the worst part is, is that they as a whole are definitely diluting the genre, I feel as if it’s definitely easier to make a rap track in comparison to other genres, but making a quality song is much much harder, and these people encapsulate that issue, just faces, nothing more than mascots to slap on a beat to make money

[@chanticoco]

Calling Tyler old and out of touch is wild. And to echo what many here have already said…wtf is Ian? 😂

[@Ozdestro]

My prediction is Tyler will ignore him and put either a sneak diss on his lead single for his next album or a future interview.

[@Whitetiger-yx4ph]

Bro this Ian guy ruining the good Ian’s reputations

[@Toe_Fur]

Who is the good Ian

[@jaybewavy]

Smosh Ian??

[@Swavae]

Who is good is

[@Solar.467]

@@Toe_Fur iann dior

[@Solar.467]

im guessing iann dior

[@JustLEO_sa]

In order to shed some light on some talented artists I think are worth discovering, I'd like to mention: - Zulu Mecca - Nasty C - Zoocci Coke Dope - Zulu Mecca - K.Keed - Bradley-Jamal - A-Reece - Blxckie - KindlyNash

[@GMBprodc]

K Keed is tuff

[@GMBprodc]

I would also ad Connor price

[@vxnomous8818]

@@GMBprodcno..

[@GMBprodc]

@@vxnomous8818 no what?

[@vxnomous8818]

@@GMBprodc connor price is genuinely doodoo

[@mybadwilson5493]

Cant be accepted if idk who tf he is

[@silhouetteruger]

who do u think you are

[@ian22543]

​@@silhouetterugerhe is right though, ian spawned outta nowhere so not everyone knows who he is

[@GMBprodc]

@@ian22543 not really out of no where he was an underground producer for a long time before hand

[@ian22543]

@@GMBprodc Only people who were familiar with underground knew who he was before he became popular

[@RalphNader2020]

​@@ian22543ian!!?? Who are you?

[@anthonyleach7608]

Seriously WHO THE F*** IS IAN !?!

[@jaredhicks1370]

I watched this whole thing and I still don't know who Ian is or why he's worth mention in the same sentence as Tyler The Creator.

[@drogfour2447]

The problem is that the industry now sees actual musicians as the competition

[@comradekong5569]

bro who the fuck is ian

[@syxph3r]

that's what i said

[@tired783]

Hate me - Ian and lil yatchy

[@Chabe21]

Industry plant he’s gonna be irrelevant in a year

[@0svvan0]

everyone just needs to dig deeper and ignore whoever the media/industry is propping up.

[@josephjackson4709]

I don't even know who tf Ian is and I'm not even going to waste my time looking him up to listen to his work. Haha. Never judge a book by its cover but he looks wack.

[@aiocafea]

i bit the bullef and it's definitely not bad music, but mcdonalds is the perfect word for it kinda even worse because it feels like the diet version, like he doesn't have the attitude, the flow, or any substance to his lyrics, like i genuinely tried to look for something but it's all fuck them haters it's not terrible but i think i could find better with 10seconds on soundcloud

[@Conan_newagepoet]

@@aiocafeaIt’s bad bro

[@Swavae]

​@@Conan_newagepoet😭😭😭😭

[@its_henlxy333]

People are going crazy on hating people for making music and living a life they want to live

[@jbro2780]

My thing is, the "outsider" and "creative rapper" identity that ppl see in Ian is just disingenuous when he looks like the cookie cutter suburb kid with wealthy parents

[@DSled]

I don't get why people can just either enjoy the music or don't. And I don't get why people ALWAYS compare an artist to another artist. So what if another artist sounds similar to someone else? If the music is good, it's good. If it's not it's not. Move on.

[@mastersgenjimain]

the point isn't the music (kinda) its mainly about how hes literally mocking the pillars of this genre.

[@2w0nGranTurismo]

I fw Ians music, but Tyler is right. Mfs are taking this rap shit like a joke

[@RedCed317]

0:53 hold on, hip-hop respecting Ian is wild af 🤭

[@Zayto_98]

Doing something similar is a wild thing to say . Tyler’s music has never sounded close to another artist . It’s about being original. When you sound like everyone else it gets stale . They call it growth but it’s just a bunch of clones . ( not talking about unique sounding artist )

[@sharifshannon13]

The whole aspect of a lot of this is the fact that music isn’t selling by itself. That’s why in the last decade an artist is defined by how many shows they can sell out. If you’re able to get a decent headcount for a concert appearance an artist will be successful. Because while you may be able to fake streams numbers , you can’t fake concert attendance numbers.

[@Najobajo]

I blame Cole Bennett. He just promotes any old flavor now

[@hisnameisbass6405]

i opened that maverick interview as soon as it dropped on yt and holy i was so glad tyler said it cause people wouldn’t listen to me when i did. and im also glad you and the people here also agree. and you are right to hold the industry and labels accountable for pushing this shit. the industry used to push for quality rappers only and was a lot more picky on who they chose. don’t forget kanye was literally laughed at by the music industry early in his career. now we have ians who become famous overnight 😂

[@drevandamva]

Tyler was always artistic and earnest with his music. You can tell it’s art to him

[@MortalMartian]

In other words, "They Not Like Us."

[@HELIOSXXI]

Crazy these “artists” keep getting younger and younger. Weird

[@Ihyreven]

It's almost as if the younger generations are what'll keep making music that older generations have inspired 🤯

[@wegonbitzhim622]

I like the part where you showed Ian’s response

[@who_is_dis]

Even Tyler’s “BASTARD” makes these industry plants look like grey paste with sprinkles on being forced on us comparison. We thought “the industry” would lose control and it would be lead by artists with the gates coming down via tech… But clearly that’s somehow reversed.

[@who.is.kalebomari]

I agree with Tyler to an extent. I honestly didn't think he was talking about Ian until he said "regular caucasian man" lmao. But it's not just Ian, you could name a couple of rappers that fit the description Tyler was talking about. But I have no problem with the existence of the Ians and the Ice Spices of the world. Because in a sense, we need them. Their songs are made for parties, clubs, and just convenience overall. Like "fast food" as stated in the video. The problem is, it feels like the "fast food" rappers are all we have now. And to an extent I blame the generation before us. Jay-Z fostered in Kanye, Rihanna, and J Cole, 3 of the greatest artists of the 2000's/2010's. They had the ability to give us "fast food" type music every once in a while, but they also had the talent to give us a "home cooked meal" in their music. It had substance. The older rappers aren't passing the ball anymore like Jay-z did. That's why we're still looking for Kanye or Rihanna to drop an album, they should've been passed the torch. Same with the Drake's of the world, J Cole, Kendrick too. Kendrick tried to give us Baby Keem, but meh. Travis Scott helped give us Don Tolliver, cool. But other than that, the substance rappers haven't taken the responsibility to give us the next generation of rappers with substance. Like your grandmother, taught your mother her family recipes. But then the mother didn't give those recipes to her daughter. That's why the daughter don't know how to cook and only want fast food lmao same concept. That's key with the music industry as well, because the "fast food" music is a machine. they have the formula, and they can just plug-n-play with any person who can make a rhyme. It don't take long to make, it don't require a lot of work, and they can put it out as many songs as they like, the quality isn't as important ie "fast food" music. When you're going against a machine like that, you need the help of the generation before you to help you top the quality, or at least match it with more substance and make it appealing to the masses.

[@daltonbass2097]

I think Tyler is just upset with how easy it is for people now to make music and how there’s so many artists and branches and genres of rap now that anyone can pretty much do anything and make it a career because he started making music in a time when it wasn’t as easy to do that and he’s upset because they have it easy and they don’t understand how hard it is and they don’t understand what music is to people and Tyler isn’t wrong for that but he’s not right either music is a form of art and people copy art if they like it like a lot of art now is really similar it’s just about influence and people have set a path for these new artists to make it easier and Tyler didn’t have that privilege

[@requiemlite]

Nah tyler is an artist, he was goofy, but hes always been serious about his Art

[@JosephP-b7w]

I can't say Tyler is out of touch cause Gen z Hates these artist too

[@mtndewpizza]

ian is hurting his career by bashing on tyler the creator.

[@im-ego-_-]

Callin ian a meme rapper and hating on him for getting clout but letting yuno miles be featured on YE an Ty song is beyond me, if mfs just hate white rappers just say that dont beat around the bush.

[@DarkRaider000]

Yuno knows he’s a joke, he started out as a SoundCloud rapper and the only reason he got on a Ye song is cause North wanted him on. Ian acts like he’s more than a generic bootleg, just listen to his holiday intro, tryna act like he’s bigger than he is when barely no one knows him.

[@7ssav]

Bro about to make Ian fast track his pop era 😂

[@melodynotez6082]

I feel hip-hop needs to bring back, old-school underground artist the only way the industry will listen is when their pockets are affected start supporting small local artist that been doing their thing

[@prodattxri5214]

@OVO_TylerKenny mason hosted asf don’t let folks know abt him😂 😂

[@chr0me.he4rts]

well i feel like if these new rappers bring back old hip hop more rappers are gonna hate again for "mocking" old hip hop theres no winning for new artists nowadays

[@emilybauer2235]

"Stuck in his time" blew my mind. Tyler and many others in odd future were so ahead of their time. Albums such as bastard and goblin were so futeristic and nothing like there was in that time. Yet "ian" wants to believe that his shit is top tier. What a joke.

[@muzuu9988]

this clickbait ass youtube titles ruin the platform

[@4ForTheLoveOfHIPHOP]

100% FACTS

[@4ForTheLoveOfHIPHOP]

I wish i could give this 100 thums up

[@muzuu9988]

@@4ForTheLoveOfHIPHOP far too kind, thank u! i think imma read a book for a change, the internet sucks a lil cock rn

[@cassiusfelix2805]

Talent always stands out and stays around. There is a reason why nobody is talking about Ice Spice anymore. If the labels want push untalented artists that's fine they not going last pass three years at most.

[@KanneX]

Ian does not have the fanbase for this beef😭

[@lenoify]

You should not at all include Jack Harlow in the list of over praise. He has been making music for almost a decade and the industry never once hyped him up to the fame, he got famous on his own.

[@Hellismary]

I don’t like Ian , I don’t like Yeat , and I don’t like Post Malone. The big 3 of Vultures

[@NoYes-uq2tz]

Wth did yeat do? he has his own sound lol

[@Benjigo936]

Ok Yeat is not a vulture he’s actually payed his respects to the goats of this generation and older ones and only talks about girls being rich and drugs

[@ForeverBlissed]

Yeat is not a vulture. Don't include bro

[@7Venhe4rts]

what did malone do😭

[@Chabe21]

@@Benjigo936fr 2093 was pretty unique and a big step for Yeat and his sound

[@baconatorva]

The weird shit about Tyler is that he acted like other ppl who have an eclectic taste in music like older stuff are fraudulent even though he himself has that eclectic taste. I don’t even think Ian sounds like Future or Gucci at all but I also grew up on both of them being actually from the south. I just think it’s wild when somebody from Oxnard, Cali speaks on somebody from another place that isn’t as affluent just because he pictures a white dude as somebody who wasn’t inspired by. I ain’t even noticed him act like a gangster or anything in his music

[@xolaningubane3014]

Another Jack Harlow

[@cassiusfelix2805]

If Ian is a good artist he will last but if he's not he won't. So what's the point on hating on him let his work speak for himself.

[@syxph3r]

I've never heard of Ian who tf is that 😭😭

[@dylanc2516]

"Im a corny white guy but i can rap🤓" was played out when lil dicky did it..

[@thedon0516]

6:21 LAME. AS. F***, what in the actual hell 🤣🤣🤣

[@EyeShura]

Ian photoshopped yatchy cringeness

[@dripski-]

ian turn 19 2 months ago can we treat him like a teen like bro he just graduated😭

[@YesserSirMrSir]

I don’t like the way he handled it, it over time I respect Macklemore for how he handled his Grammy. He had a rare understanding of hip hop that white rappers usually lack aside from Em and a couple others

[@marioorellana760]

This has been happening since the Beatles. A certain sound is blowing up among the youth & the industry does whatever it can to monopolize it, but this is actually necessary to cause a pushback & force artists to think outside the box & find the new sound that actually resonates with with the youth, not what the industry thinks we’ll like. Same exact thing happened 15 years ago when ringtone rap was being forced down our throats & everyone started gravitating towards internet rappers like Tyler, Kendrick & A$AP who were really doing what no one else was, it creates a need for creativity!

[@chrismessy]

Ian looks like he's from Utah

[@kevin.malone]

That's cool and all, but why you gotta put Harlow together with the rest of these artists. That boy been grinding for years and really cares about the craft. Just because he's gone pop in recent years people aren't willing to rock with him anymore?

[@finalbreath15]

😂😂😂 bro ian could never touch tyler

[@SurprisedBamb00]

what if it turns out tyler was talking about mabu?