How Important are the US and China Within Global Trade? - Keyu Jin [2023] | Intelligence Squared

Join economist Keyu Jin and Gideon Rachman in a nuanced discussion on the complex economic relationship between the U.S. and China. Explore the potential consequences of economic disengagement, emphasising China's pivotal role in global trade as a major importer and exporter of intermediate products. What effects do the interconnectedness of the two economies have on their impact on global trade? With a focus on companies like Apple, delve into the intricacies of economic collaboration and the risks associated with disrupting this delicate global balance.
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[@zhenwenlu2607]

China is a closed system with an open mind. America is an open system with a closed mind.

[@Western_Decline]

You can tell this host is a closed mind, recycling the western propaganda he’s consumed and /or written.

[@GoodSmellingFart]

Yet Thousands of Chinese Citizens are trying to sneak into the USA, and China has announced that it will not take back its' citizens who are not allowed to stay in the USA. Odd no?

[@willng247]

The West often relies on anecdotes in their accusations against China. Eric Li is one of the few who consistently exposes and addresses these issues. Jing should be less apologetic when faced with such questions.

[@eugenezhang1378]

Eric Li lives in China while Professor Jin lives in the west. She has to be mindful, and she is also more academic.

[@Western_Decline]

Anecdotes or cherry-picked facts that distort the bigger picture.

[@HerrickChiu]

This is a great interview. Thanks Prof. Jin.

[@willng247]

Been listening to Jin since 2020

[@genechai2468]

Great going, Keyu !

[@hermanhsu5994]

Names any so-called western system country which doesn't have the same problem as China? or even worse when comes to real-life issues.

[@qingshanyipian1936]

She’s incredibly smart and articulate.

[@GoodSmellingFart]

And rich with Party Connections.

[@willng247]

The issue of per capita spending can be answered relatively. Whether China will reach the $30,000 per capita income to match the US is a bit of a red herring. For example, an EV car in China costs a third of the price of one sold in the US. A $30 restaurant meal can feed a family of four well, while the same amount probably only feeds one person in the US. 🤷🏻

[@Western_Decline]

the U.S. economy is OnlyFans and $500k hospital bills and lawsuits. No production.

[@summer031977]

The per capital income of the United States is $70, 000, not $30,000.

[@zhinan888]

Great discussion

[@Ghost-mg5xz]

Keyu is smart about about what she says, also straight forward.

[@shermansaxton3651]

I bought her book. What an intellect, I have traveled to China multiple times. I would like to meet her, and takes to dinner ❤

[@okaigustingurahsantosa1964]

Good Marketing Manager ❤

[@abulfadhl605]

An excellent interview. Less emotions and set views by the interviewer and the honesty of the interviewed. It's a credit to Mr Rachman for ensuring a great interview. Kiyu Jin may be an optimist. A very articulate optimist. Sadly learning from the recent past there is a strong likelihood of conflict. This may be the only solution for the US in its efforts to stop China's drive to becoming the largest global economy. Thank you for this interview.

[@pedrohuevon8844]

Candid, insightful and informative.

[@Western_Decline]

this host is deeply committed to the Liberal biases of his Anglo-brain

[@qingshanyipian1936]

I wish my daughter would be like her someday.

[@forgettohaveaname2954]

When he asked again and again the A4 paper demonstration, what Jing would have responded with but instead tried hard to avoid responding with is the truth that, That demonstration was too small by truth to be known to the Chinese people but reported huge so he concerned a lot

[@shermansaxton3651]

You are a beautiful woman ❤

[@SeattleLate9]

Lucky for you, no ring on her hands.

[@voiceofchina1788]

good debate, western myth buster

[@okazaki111]

Unfortunately, no arrogant dictatorship can escape the international financial trilemma, the Phillips curve, and Okun's law. Therein lies the dilemma for the Chinese Communist Party. In order for a currency to gain trust as an international currency, it requires a highly transparent legal system and its operation, a well-developed financial market, and free capital movement. From that point of view, there are many challenges to the internationalization of the CNY. In terms of gaining trust, China's relatively strict controls on cross-border capital flows are a hurdle for the internationalization of the CNY.

[@geraldgreenman4715]

she only said what she felt she could say,,,,,theres a warmonger at the top who just wants a bit of democractic land to say how good am I ????What about all the corruption????? Her messge is believe me there is a status quo ,honestly

[@amunra5330]

Warmonger....which country is China bombing right now......

[@afkfromk1]

you obviously choose Stupidity, well its not a decease, its a choice.

[@jamesz80]

I don’t think you know what the word warmonger means. That’s what you’ll use to describe the USA who has been waging wars nonstop. China hasn’t fired a single bullet against an enemy since 1979.

[@cb250nighthawk3]

Brainwashed by Western media. You're a good example.

[@Hina749]

She is an apologist for the communist party. Her father was a big-shot economist who served as minister for the party at one point. She is touting the party lines.

[@pseudoscientist8010]

Peter Zeihan says China will grow old before it grows rich.

[@ensteffo]

Peter Zeihan and Gordon Chang are saying things yes, but should you live in fantasy land or have a real picture of reality.

[@kevinlin4895]

Peter Zeihan also said China would collapsed a decade ago, hardly a credible source.

[@xushenxin]

oh my god, Keyu Jin is turning black~

[@TituIshtiaque]

In coming 10 years young populations growth will be the main issue for china China should not underestimate this issue like Japan South Korea.

[@agoodchow]

USA intentionally and unintentionally ignores the reality the USA and the West had been declining drastically since 2016/17, so a number of stupid questions had been asked meaninglessly.

[@lucaslu5485]

The old man is so afraid to listen to the interviewer, always keep interrupting her. If you don't want the truth why you have this interview😂😂😂

[@pseudoscientist8010]

Alot of really wealthy ccp, not Chinese,!

[@amunra5330]

Its obvious you have never been to China lol

[@rayh.3478]

bruh! clearly u have not been here 😂

[@ensteffo]

CPC is actually not like western oligarchical elites. You can project and cry, but that is not going to change the trend of gs outgrowing the west.

[@frankm6218]

She was wast of time to talk to a piece of rock.

[@richardtaggart3276]

Full of lies this women

[@osmommy100]

Very shallow opinions from an independent researcher; but understandable if it’s a China-funded project

[@BS-qp8rp]

You know more about the economic issues in China? Would like to hear about it

[@amunra5330]

Oh wow - you know more about China than a person that is an expert on the Chinese economy lol

[@ensteffo]

It is of course your indoctrinated racism which is shallow and renders you unable to view the world in its actual representation.

[@MelGibsonFan]

lol. Comment section is crawling with CCP shills getting their social credit boosted.

[@Tom-gg9px]

This is the biggest liar I ever heard 😂😂

[@Western_Decline]

this host is deeply committed to the Liberal biases of his Anglo-brain