How in the HECK did METAL get in THERE?! | 2008 CBR1000RR Street Fighter Build - Day 6

[@Gearheaded_Grizzly]

Chase there is a camera Idea for yall...maybe add a headcam on you so that we could easily see what is happening and have dynamic camera angels...but I love seeing these wrecked bike Re-Builds and you all are very very Awesome

[@btherealbb]

I like that. That’d really add a whole new perspective to his videos. I totally agree with that idea.

[@fader2701]

Love Brian's explanation of the cams/valvs.and.such

[@GT-kt6tz]

Very interesting. I like how there's a novice guy who asks very relevant question, it's helpful for those who don't know much about engines. And the mechanic guy (I don't got their names) explain very well. It'd be interesting to see the teardown of a stock 1000cc not rebuilt like this one with a bunch of miles on it. Like a r1 crossplane (since you mentioned it) with something like 50k miles on it. Greetings from France, I suscribe

[@EfferusZangetsu]

Look at these superstars putting out 1 hour videos on youtube. Nothing keeps my mind off everyday bs like watching you guys work on bikes. Love ya long time guys.

[@TheWurks]

Really good up to the valve cotter.... Collet point... Agreed on it bouncing around the valve train and around the cam shaft(S), chain/gears etc but, for it to pass the valve guide the valve would have to not be in there. A gap big enough for a collect to drop through to the valve seat and cylinder is not feasible for multiple reasons. Most of all it would smoke like all hell, your intake charge would end up in the head/cam aperture. And gaps that big behind intake and exhaust valves for them to drop through would result in said charge bypassing the combustion chamber.. That said tops to you guys on everything else so much knowledge conveyed in brilliant manner, easy going and so well produced. Keep it up guys! Much love Joe

[@joonya4427]

I had exactly the same thought.

[@joonya4427]

@@briancruz4343 Good on you Brian. Too many KZbinrs would ignore or or deleate this comment. Takes a bigger man to admit when he is wrong. I can respect that.

[@TheWurks]

@@briancruz4343 oh man... You're a legend my friend... How you convey information astounds me.. I used to have apprentices under me at a British motor manufacturer and I only hope I delivered for them the way you do for 1000s sir. Keep up the good work fella!

[@magichackerv8]

Dude they should make an app with Brian's voice that has an answer to any motorcycle and motorcycle engine related problem. That guy is an encyclopedia.

[@BCBe4tS]

Pin this to the top!

[@cniky]

Just watched the full episode, and after closing yt tab I realized that I did not like this vid, so I came back and what is that I see, 2 dislikes. Like how?... I dont understand what human being dislikes this video, its basically free knowledge, there aint a place on internet that will give you this much information in this detail and on top of that its trustworthy without a doubt. Huge thanks to the boys of WBR crew. :D

[@btherealbb]

Exactly. I totally agree. Where else could you find someone willing to give this kind of information just because they know it. Some people want you to pay for the information. Or give you some 2 minute summary and sometimes leave crucial parts just for time sake.

[@btherealbb]

People don’t understand how blessed we are to have someone like Brian giving us this information. Along with Chase asking questions that we would ask. He could’ve easily just let Brian work and leave us wondering. But due to him asking questions. We are learning far more then others would like to say

[@coreykimbler5188]

Also, Knowledge with Brian is my fave

[@TheGorillaBiker]

Once again, an hour later I have learned more things again and I'm handy enough at fixing bike things. Brilliant video again.

[@eden7786]

"and that is a big mfer curl of metal in the..." and that gets the like. lol

[@goodboyringo9716]

CHASE IS A LUCKY GUY TO HAVE BRIAN SHOWING AND TEACHING HIM ABOUT THIS ENGINE. I wish Brian was my friend, I'm a auto mechanic but motorcycle engine are a different puppy.

[@WesBurnhamPhotography]

Crossplane R1 started in 09. You can get them a dime a dozen! Lets do this!!! Also... Vole all the way!! OC

[@wilgarcia1]

Those eye opening moments Chase has. Priceless. Hey no one is born knowing anything =)

[@faint442008]

Nice to see Chase is learning and retaining all this new information about the inner workings of a bike

[@GarrethCollins]

The Cross plane R1 came from 2009 😉 and I will be rebuilding a 2014 after the Zx6r but the engine is still perfect. any ways sweet video would love to see you put it back together. Peace

[@wayderodriguez9064]

I always wondered if you watched Chases videos. Love your work dude

[@GarrethCollins]

@@wayderodriguez9064 thanks bro. 👌 Yeah i watch some videos from time to time.

[@2wheelz420]

this is one of my favorite WBR episodes yet! this detail is what I love!!!

[@adambainbridge1047]

Love your videos mate, annoying that there’s loads more ads interrupting recently. Good job lads 👌

[@TheGorillaBiker]

THAT CATCH WAS INCREDIBLE. The benefits of having cameras everywhere.

[@venomulimited]

I think we would all go for a vole. Chase i love the new videos man been a long time follower . also i am a mechanic and its fun to see you guys take on older bikes. Oc for life

[@lukewhittaker7757]

Loving the long episode, I was afraid to lose these when WBR went to patreon (OC BOI)

[@soloking2141]

Some of the music gives this a mad scientist feel to the video.

[@cliff8675]

OC, I don't want to find bashed anything in an engine. Fun story though, rebuilt a CBX way back when and when we first took it out and opened it up it seemed like it was starved. Wouldn't wind out like it should and generally down on power. started in the airbox ... where we found a rats (voles?) nest of debris. Turns out while the previous owner had it torn down in his shop, the vermin built a nest over the winter. We looked back through the airbox and the filter was clean (inside) so we never took it out during reassembly. If any of the residents had been there for the test ride, they lived through a hurricane.

[@Niks821]

I always like how from a singe video you could learn so much about stuff. In this case - engines. Keep us the good work. Looking forward to an R1 crossplane.

[@yoramvandam6742]

Loving your content! Finally understand DOHC. Im feeling your surprise factor every time!!!😄

[@lbrteagle]

The valves actually open half the amount of times as the engine RPM on a 4-stroke engine, not double. With a 2 stroke intake is at 1/1.

[@ianloughney9570]

lol at the guy who said the valves on a 2 stroke open 1/1 with the engine rpm. Stay at the keyboard and out of the shop my friend

[@lbrteagle]

@@ianloughney9570 meant that intake happens at a 1/1 rate. Didn’t ever say that the “valves on a 2-stroke are 1/1” but I can see how that would seem that way. The charge comes in from an intake port not actuated by a valve in any that I’ve seen.

[@ianloughney9570]

@@lbrteagle Then you haven't seen that many because almost every 2 stroke since the late 70s uses reed valves to control the intake charge, they just dont operate like traditional intake valves opening at a rate timed to the crank speed. You might wanna just quit while you're ahead on this one. (also its kinda bad form to edit a comment after realizing it was completely wrong, but eh)

[@scottb8175]

@@ianloughney9570 Some two strokes have valves too.....like Detroit Diesels and others, but I think lbrteagle was referring to one intake stroke per crank revolution.

[@scottb8175]

@@ianloughney9570 There are also 2T's that use crankcase / piston port 'valves', disc / rotary valves, and cylinder scavenging superchargers.....

[@boombaamboom5]

Brian is awesome! 👍🏻

[@ETAFRanger]

Thanks for triggering my phones Google Assistant with that 14000/60 math question Chase, lmao.

[@chaseontwowheels]

Hahaha I was wondering if that would happen to someone.

[@jeffreymurillo3131]

If the desmodromic valves are so good, then I wonder why they changed the new V4 to valve springs?

[@DSC71789]

Thank you for the full length episode.

[@aspiringdiplomat549]

Loving the new episodes !! Very very pleased with it!

[@Bandido6oo]

Great video, great series. Brian is just a beast. Learned a lot from this video alone.

[@SweDownhill]

Amazing episode 😍😃 Thanks guys!

[@maskedm]

This is next level build series! Loving it!!

[@saltyprocrastinator]

This episode was golden!

[@locci2]

I guess Brian's brain shut of at 49:00 :P There is no way for a keeper to find its way down into the backside of the valve unless someone drilled a hole into the head for it to fall down. If a keeper managed to fall out, it would have to push out the valve shim first before it's able to go anywhere. On a bucket over shim head it's very unlikely that it will ever make it's way out of there unless the valve drops into the combustion chamber. And if that happens you're shit out of luck anyway and where that keeper went will be the least of your problem :P I've had heads where the keeper has worked its way lose due to wear and possible valve float and it pushed the shim out but everything was still on top of the retainer. By the way, cam's only rotate at half the piston rotations :) So 116 times a second if the engine is a 14.000 rpm. Keep the Videos coming guys, it just hurts my mechanic heart a bit when disinformation is spread.

[@scottb8175]

The R1 went back to 4 valves per in the 2007-8 R1, before the cross plane in 2009. The 5 valve head was better in overall combustion chamber efficiency (using a slightly dished piston), but Yamaha had difficulty making it work while having to reduce emissions. The dished pistons would not allow the use of a high enough compression ratio while passing emissions. The 4 valve was cheaper to manufacture, could pass tighter emissions, worked with higher compression, and could be tuned to a higher stressed state to make up the extra power to match the 5 valve. That's according to Yamaha.

[@Duck95ish]

OC - voles dont burrow like a mole, but make use of their tunneling systems to feed off tree roots - often killing plants from below.

[@coreykimbler5188]

Brian is the man

[@jonhewitt3]

Whilst you have the Triumph Moto2 765, take that engine a part, it has three cylinder :-)

[@scottb8175]

The loose bolts likely explanation - the cam cap bolts were not tightened by the last tech that adjusted the valves. Missed getting the final step of torque on a few bolts after running all the bolts down evenly while drawing the cams / springs down....

[@anthonynixon3220]

Love the videos. Learning how to work on your engine.. brain explains it very well too..

[@ChaseN194]

Word to the wise, the 08-16 cbrs were notorious for engine problems due to oil burn up and oil leaks. It was normal for them to need a liter of oil after every 500 miles.

[@richardcassistajr8229]

Your I'm not mistaken doesn't the cams spin half as fast

[@wesleymarnitz9481]

Your right, also the cotter pin shouldn't be able to make its way down to the back of the valve anyway, because it would have to get through the valve guide seal and valve guide

[@cwayboyz]

They absolutely only spin at half the speed. Hopefully they will go and clear this up for the others...

[@oliverpohl6687]

Right, cams spin half one valve cycle at two revs

[@RandomGuyComments]

Me now realizing... Camera Car Driver = Wrecked Bike Rebuild Mechanic... 🤔 Camera guy, keep up the great work!

[@tonyd2364]

Chase, motor go zoom engines go boom remember, lol

[@btherealbb]

Yesss. I love to see someone who thought the same thing I did!!! Yessss

[@mdragon99]

Great demo of the valve train. May have to drop on a Ducati soon,,,

[@HoosierMan34]

Was eating chili and drinking beer while watching this....feeling like a TOTAL MAN lol

[@VeeFour]

OC So basically you're giving the cylinder head the World Superbike treatment...that's going to free up some eager ponies 💪

[@RobAKemp]

Cool Hand Luke!

[@MotoNoir]

Thanks for setting off my Google Home.

[@motorcycleislife8296]

35:50 So the higher the rpms the bigger chance of your engine blowing up lol

[@ssshar5070]

thank you - loving the videos (long is sweet as more information)

[@waregeeksny]

The dude should have his own channel.

[@chiguy_]

OC - let's go with metal chunks. I would hope to find some sort of metal and or aluminum since that is what most of the things are made out of in the motor LOL.. great vid as always glad you are learning about valves per cylinder .. maybe the next question / explanation is why there might be multiple spark plugs per cylinder. anyway as always keep having fun cheers.

[@captainamerica9353]

Chi Guy , "metal and or aluminum" ? Since aluminum IS metal, you could have just wrote metal. But there should not be chunks or flakes in the engine or oil.

[@chiguy_]

@@captainamerica9353 there shouldn't be, but if there are flakes or sparkles or any kind of metals then that is bad.. yes I could have said metal but wanted to state a certain type that isn't able to be picked up by a magnet. Aside from specific rare earth magnet.

[@andreh8590]

Can you ask Brian about replacing engine cases with different internals. I have a cracked engine case and wanted to do a rebuild with new cases transferring old internals with new bearing and gaskets. Keep up the awesome work.

[@scottb8175]

Besides the usual gaskets and seals, you will likely have to replace some of the crank bearings at minimum, as they are matched to the crankcases for bearing bore and journal size on Japanese motorcycle plain bearing crankshaft engines like the CBR, R1, GSXR, ZX-10, etc...

[@andreh8590]

@@scottb8175 That's what I was thinking too. Between the items mentioned and O-rings which I guess is included in seals, I should be good. Just haven't seen anyone do a transfer from a damaged case to a fresh engine case. Appreciate the reply though.. Looking forward to getting back on 2's again!

[@scottb8175]

@@andreh8590 I hope it goes well. Most shops have done case swaps. Cases get damaged all the time.....but the labor cost is wicked.

[@friendlyrando4092]

The piece of metal that was found in the cylinder head well, I was thinking it could be some kind of washer maybe. Like maybe a wave washer.

[@WickedProxy]

OC crushed vole would do less damage to the engine so vole. What? Wait! We wanted to learn more about the vole why are you running away Chase? 😸 Loved the video today! It was amazing to find out that some of these engines can do a full rotation 233 times a second! That is insane!!!!

[@VeeFour]

Brian, don't even bother trying to explain duel overhead valve bike to Chase 😂

[@larryfisher2663]

It's seems like the "15 year tecknition" is working on his first CBR !

[@projectx126]

Oc. Love the long ep

[@lazaros23]

Great content!!! Please find a crossplane engine!

[@BramVanhautte]

It would be very interesting to have a video about all the materials and parts that had to be bought and their pricing. As well as the cilinder cover re-done by a professional company.

[@chaseontwowheels]

Thats the plan!

[@aashirwadtripathy1113]

🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩another video....yaaaaaassssssss

[@blatherama]

I'd settle for a crushed vole because I could get some great pictures and then just hose it out. OC forever.

[@friendlyrando4092]

When I gets ma monies Imma gets my Torqued ta spec shirt lol. I really want the RBR shirt Chase was wearing in this video as I too take pride in the 2001 GSX-R 750 I restored.

[@Bellgrowler]

Does anyone else watch these and wonder if the previous owner had also watched this? I wonder what they are thinking when they get called out for their crappy rebuild 😂

[@blatherama]

I do, and I often wonder if they're giggling at all the effort being put into the rebuild.

[@indegoadult]

I was just thinking this, wondering if the previous owner is watching and thinking that the shop they had rebuild the engine was a waste of his money?

[@killface1]

I put the blame on operator error. Even a top of the line rebuild won't last long if the owner abuses it, doesn't know how or is too cheap to properly maintain the engine.

[@HowlerBikeVlogs]

i gotta correct our good man brian here, the valve train runs at half the rpm that crank does. hence why crank needs to rotate 2 full turns for cams to do 1 full turn. so those 233 rotations per second become 116,5, which is still a shit ton imagine filming that with a 60hz camera, you would miss a full rotation in between frames...

[@CraftwerksMC]

For Brian to explain to Chase... Why higher octane does not = higher power. AKA reasons not to always fill up with premium on a low compression engine.

[@CraftwerksMC]

Also, lift with your legs, not your back!!!!

[@scottb8175]

It's not just the higher octane in premium fuel, it is the higher quality of the premium fuel (more / better refining and more / better additives) that reduces the carbon build up. Regular gas is just horrible quality fuel. It starts to break down and form varnish deposits in the fuel system in three weeks. The only engine I have that doesn't get premium is my beater car. Even with good fuel, excessive carbon build up occurs more because of idling and insufficient oil changes. Remember how old timers used to drive their muscle cars at full throttle / top speed every now and then to 'blow the carbon out'? There is some truth in that one.

[@heatz711]

OC crushed vole please and for next season id like to see you all work on an oldskool oil-cooled GSXR

[@syukrisadri]

WBRG Seson 6 : Chase's MT-10. lol

[@phillipparkinson7145]

OC:So rude of me. Hey Heather 👋 👋 👋

[@HalfdeadRider]

When engines were first developed to have four valves per cylinder, the design was to improve fuel economy. It was not until they built the first engines that they found the nice and unexpected biproduct that was extra power. Oh and don't tell Chase about OHV, CVH engines etc lol

[@CraftwerksMC]

I'm pretty sure they knew about the power effect long before the economy affect. Remember the old saying, race on Sunday sell on monday... Guys were putting huge valves in engines long before there was a 4 valve for HP gains because more air being forced in + more power. It just takes a lot of manufacturing dev and machining capability to reconfigure a head for more valves instead of bigger valves if you don't already have a multi-valve setup.

[@HalfdeadRider]

@@CraftwerksMC No, it's because the design was intentionally aimed at improving engine economy. More smaller valves make engines more efficient without allowing more air + fuel mixture in. More air + fuel will make an engine less economical.

[@jonathanhager3930]

Would rather hear you guys talking instead of the music. I know your not showing everything but watching mouths move and not hear voices for some reason made me mad. Maybe I need anger management 🤔 🙃 lol. But good video other than that

[@taylortevebaugh5146]

Hey. Quick question for Brian. If you wanted to convert your '08 CBR1000RR from a linear plane crankshaft to a cross plane crankshaft, could you do it?

[@emstechgirl4687]

OC: I would prefer not to find anything in the engine that's not supposed to be there but if I had absolutely no choice and had to have one in there I would say a piece of metal. It's easier to fix damage from a piece of metal than the vole that somehow crawled up in there to be smashed to a bloody pulp because then you would wonder how in the *quack* did it get in there in the first place. Besides they're cute so no I don't want to find a bloody vole pulp in any engine I have thank you very much. Sorry for long post lol

[@urboostd4865]

wtf

[@MrStance88]

Hey Heather! :D

[@greensparks415]

what do think I should do about the rust in my cylinders its a Katana 750 do you think i should buy a another motor or pay to have it serviced by a company

[@hollywoodredneck8565]

I ride about one thousand miles per year but I only use premium fuel so should I use engine med before I put it away for this winter?

[@weswills9929]

Should’ve just told them it’s called the dingleberry hone 😂 2009-2014 is crossplane

[@ryancooke8429]

It still is crossplane...

[@weswills9929]

@@ryancooke8429 Yes but if someone has a wrecked 15 or newer R1 I can also safely assume it’s a lot more expensive to repair and the electrical system is going to be tricky. Would you not agree it might be beneficial to go older for sake of availability and price point? Chase isn’t the only person that looks for wrecked vehicle rebuilds but he still has to have a budget for it

[@ryancooke8429]

@@weswills9929 yes I agree, but the complexity and hype behind a new r1 would be more interesting and probably get more viewers and patreon buys, plus his budget really doesn't seem strict lol, look at the Ducati. Either way an R1 will be cool

[@stcracing5190]

That's why the rotary is such a good engine no power loss because of cams

[@grayv3]

***Please look up the Honda NV750 oval piston concept engine *** 🤯

[@scottb8175]

It was the NR750, and it went into 'limited production' in 1992. The NR500 was first, however - the Soichiro Honda 500 GP cheater V-8.....in 1979 the engineers at Honda were dropping millions of dollars on developing the 4 - stroke 32 valve 500 cc oval piston racing engines to compete with 500 cc GP 2 -strokes like the RG500 and OW500. They'd practically hand make the engines at HRC, only to try and get them to make power while revving past 20 000 rpm, and blowing them up one after another on the dyno. One engineer was asked how they could justify such massive waste. His answer was "We are short of time, not money".

[@JanitorJay83]

WBRG Season 6 needs to be an R1 and an R3, just to compare the differences between the two engines.

[@Tyler-Hagan-Racing]

OC here - Gimme the vole 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

[@arghyl]

Why does Chase look like he’s 3 sheets to the wind on some wine?

[@silfear1]

oc: I don't want to see inside my engine at all. Never. I want it to go on forever happily sipping fuel and spitting exhaust and carrying my ass :D

[@AndrewNoronha-cb2gy]

Wait a sec.. I always believed that the springs also pushed/rotated the camshaft back.. hence returning the power back into the engine.. is that true.. maybe at higher rpms this does not happen but saying that valve trains useup a good amount of engine power. Idk but dosen’t make much sense

[@MastersonsCarCare]

Someone buy this man a longer ratchet!

[@scottb8175]

OK, stop the bus - in four stroke engines the valves reciprocate 1/2 times the pistons do, not double. Also, the valve collets can't get to the valve springs or back of the valves and into the cylinder unless there is a big hole knocked out of the head first. A dislodged collet has to stay under the valve bucket lifter and above the retainer until the cam comes out or the head breaks into chunks of aluminum. The valve would have to drop into the cylinder and get mangled and then punched through the head by the piston.

[@btherealbb]

OC. I’d rather find a piece of metal. Cause then I can find definitive evidence of the piece and further inspect other hardware. Depending on the damage, I could decide whether a new engine or just a few pieces of hardware.

[@P081756]

C'mon Chase, there's a lot more that goes into racing than just a fast engine or a fast bike. That is just one check box ticked. But a very informative video like always.

[@bazonka1]

oc I think that the knocking is a bad big end bearing. I would have to say vole because, as Brian said, it would be mashed into little pieces.

[@festes81]

Your "hey google" set off my phone lol

[@TheGorillaBiker]

OC - Piece of metal, I'd feel really bad if I found a tiny little critter pounded to paste :(

[@magichackerv8]

0:51 in the intro, can someone tell me what bike is that I want to watch that rebuild

[@AntaresSQ01]

It was the season 1 Ducati Monster 1100, warning, chase was big big noob back then

[@magichackerv8]

@@AntaresSQ01 hahahahahaah thanks man, I want to know more about that headlight install, I'll watch the whole series but I am interested in that headlight :D

[@greensparks415]

I fill like I'm missing important info while yall talk when the music is playing

[@greensparks415]

I have rust in my cylinder and your next stream is important to me so I decide if I can do the job or not

[@larryfisher2663]

Yamaha "Cross beam", Honda "inline" ? What does CBR stand for ? Cross Beam Racer !

[@wilgarcia1]

I wonder if the last person that opened this engine is watching.

[@FullMetalSpartan19]

Probably a stupid question but best place to get an answer I guess. Is there a particular reason they don't use power tools to take care of any of these bolts and such?

[@scottb8175]

Power tools are ok for taking an engine apart, but not for beginners, and definitely not to put them together.

[@faris55045]

215 r1 would be great