How Intel Macs are STILL better than Apple Silicon! (8 Ways)

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[@bbalestier]

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[@ARandomKid-v4m]

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[@chriselliott5122]

Question… when I bought my new MacBook (M1 Max), I read some things advising against CleanMyMac. So, I’m not sure what to do… I want to keep my Mac performing at its peak but I don’t want to regret anything either. Your thoughts and expert opinion would be greatly appreciated! 🙏🏼

[@RCTUN748]

Yesterday, the power company in my area had to shut down the power for six hours due to construction (in fact, the power came back on in four hours). From that moment on, my 2019 MBP 16"/i9 had to be used in an extreme energy-saving way. I managed to get through those five hours by lowering the screen brightness, turning off the keyboard backlight completely, stopping meaningless internet activity, turning off a lot of background programs, and not playing music. I can't help but think that if I had been using the M1 or M2, I probably wouldn't have had to stress so much.

[@noahklassen1695]

My M1 MacBook Air gets around 10-15 hrs of screen on time on one charge, you’d have no problem

[@mikemcmike6427]

to be fair that's a once a year kinda event (where I'm from). and also you are paying 2500 for the 16 inch model. I use mine for KZbin too kinda overkill

[@ettcha]

You are right. My 2012 intel with a brand new ifixit battery gets me about 5hrs of music with everything else off. The m1 pro can give me a useful 8hrs of mixed work or a few more hours of just music with all radios, backlights and background apps off. It's grief on the battery cycles though. Where I live we are up to 17hrs of power rationing per day and the charge cycles are piling up.

[@unkown7277]

@@noahklassen1695 same even using it all day long for meetings.

[@verttikoo2052]

Battery life with M1 that I have is just amazing 🥳 I love it ❤ This is the way it was supposed to be

[@rariancom]

Have a MacBook 14" M1 Pro 32GB/16GPU for a year now.. Best MacBook upgrade ever.

[@JasonTaylor-po5xc]

As a software engineer/IT professional, I have used Macs as much as possible for my professional needs. However, there are still some significant issues I face with my M1-based MBP that my previous Intel systems didn't have to deal with. For a long time, it was well known that the best Windows machine was a Mac - normally running on Bootcamp or even virtualized. OK, not always true but for my needs, it was great. All (or most) tools I needed were available for Mac and the few that were not, I could hop into Windows without issue. I could even run Linux -- all on the same system. With M1, it took over a year for many developer-centric tools to get ported over and many non-Apple tools still aren't supported - with some like VirtualBox, will never be supported. The kicker is that I really can't "just hop" into Windows anymore because there is no Bootcamp and virtualization only supports the ARM version of Windows (which really sucks). Yeah, I "could" run x86-64 emulation (qemu), but that is so painfully slow that it is not a viable option. What about Docker? Yeah, just in time for Docker to charge for Docker Desktop, it got ported over finally - except you have to use ARM versions of containers - while are fairly common, they aren't completely universal. Sure, I run into similar issues on my Pi, but that is a hobby/experimental/toy computer that is ultra cheap. I've had to make adjustments by switching to tools that work well on M1 (multipass vs vagrant) and keeping my PC for stuff that refuses to join the ARM revolution. With all that, I really do like my M1 MBP and I do see the power in the Apple Silicon system - but non-Apple software development is still somewhat lacking - even 2 years in. I expected some pain/waiting for the transition to happen, but at this point, I'm thinking everything that will make it over has already happened.

[@thewizardsofthezoo5376]

Maybe you have the knowledge but not the experience, but if you learned the hard during the previous architectures revolutions, you want to stick a couple of years with your old architecture because it would just disrupt your workflow with setups and waste of times, missing drivers, bugs and so on, the gain in speed is usually lost to adapting to the new ecosystem. And it will eventually make it there, first your leave the big boys do their own UAT at their own expenses, not on your time and professional output. So I'll get an M when that ecosystem is not a downgrade at more than 1 level, 1 screen really? I'll stick to my 16'' 2019, with 8cores and 32 gb I don't see the point of shelling so much money to then ending up back on the i9 because the difference is negligible, actually in some rendering programs like final cut M1 with 8-16gig of ram is a hog compared to an i9 with enough ram, apparently Ram still means something especially on a common one like ARM, not worth the hassle

[@michaelandrews4783]

So what do you do if you need to upgrade your storage - ram or CPU or replace a failed part? With my pc I just drive to the local computer store and buy the part I need which comes with it's own 3 yr warranty, takes about 30 min total.

[@GS0CK6]

No one is allowed to complain about the thickness of the macbook pros! We all cried about making them thicker for 5 years!

[@chidorirasenganz]

I didn’t so I will complain 😅

[@walmartpimp2]

I want my Touch Bar back, and these ugly legacy ports gone! Also I loved the butterfly keyboard.

[@stefanpaul]

I was at a crossroads in 2021 when the M1 Pro MacBook launched. I wanted to get a new mac for college and was indecisive about whether going for the M1 Pro or i9... In the end I ended up taking the 2 year old i9 Macbook Pro, because of BootCamp and the TouchBar ( I'm one of the few people who loves the TouchBar )

[@sidharth-sajith]

Tell me ur experience Sir, was it worth buying?

[@abgminhartanah]

yes. i always use to skip the ads.

[@texemplarstudios5481]

Boot camp is a big win for me for Intel Macs… I miss it on M1!

[@blakberi]

Ironically, Clean My Mac X was the biggest memory hog I had on my M1 Mac Mini and my M1 Max Mac Studio. I had to delete it. Works great on my Intel iMac though

[@thomas0101]

Clean My Mac is spywear...

[@petesmith6434]

We utilize Intel based iMacs (2020 27”) here in our recording studio. They are completely reliable, have no issues with all the hundreds of plugins we own, are very powerful and we have no issues tracking, mixing and mastering very large projects. One day, when our existing iMacs can no longer provide the power we need we will move on to Apple silicone computers…but we feel confident that we will be using our existing iMacs for at least a couple more years.

[@gitpho]

Same here. My workflow includes booting Windows on my maxed-out 2020 iMac, so I’ll be holding out until I can justify the cost of both a new Mac and a PC build.

[@phoenixrising4995]

@@gitpho Yikes! I'll stick to my PC and REAPER.

[@LunaticTheCat]

Good decision, two of my most expensive plug-ins, iZotope Ozone 8, and Neutron 2 straight up don't work on my new M2 MacBook Pro. I'm sure iZotope will figure it out eventually, but for now, they haven't.

[@PoipoleMujigae]

@@LunaticTheCatI do think iZotope is slow when it comes to learning the ARM64 architecture. Do you think they finally made the plugins run natively on Apple silicon yet?

[@Tech-geeky]

That's what i'm getting at... plugin's will be less useful on M1 and therefor usually dictates the apps you can use as well. There is much better support there for Intel,. but may change, i don't see how... People that use plugin's that they no longer update, or your in the hands of developers for one reason, or another, chooses not to support M1 natively, allot of users will be running Rosetta 2 for (years) to come :) The number #1 reason is : not allot of support Developers go where the money is and there is much wider audience with Intel (PC or Intel Mac) than there are on M1/M2 chips... so, that dictates everything else. down the line. Performance and battery is really the only thing going for Apple silicon, but at what cost ?? People go there, then some back and say this doesn't work, and they "want it to work". Seems people jump the gun, which explains why there are soo many M1/M2 macs on the Apple Refurnished Store Apple knows there gonna be issues, and i guess there prepared to live with the consequences.

[@LagunaLeonhart]

I bought a MacBook Pro M1 and even though I've only played genshin impact on it to date. I prefer it far more than any windows laptop and I've had two gaming laptops that destroyed the batteries and were no longer sold after a few years. Good things will come and I'm ready for the change

[@kob6183]

How do you play that on Mac ??

[@mattasaurus2006]

Bro plays genshin impact XD

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@mattasaurus2006 it’s a good game 😂

[@LagunaLeonhart]

@@mattasaurus2006 lol I know.. but it's pretty fun tbh

[@framedthunder6436]

It's dumb to play on the MacBook The Game is only m1/m2 optimized in iPad only The MacBook versión still is intel

[@krmtdfrg]

I love my 2020 Intel MacBook Pro I got 2 years ago. Still works great and have had no issues. Got it cheap when the M1 ones came out and I am very happy. See no need to upgrade anytime soon.

[@black_sheep666]

Yup I can agree I snatched me one when m2 came out for dirt cheap ( i7 32ram and 4k ssd ) for 1000$ it works like a charm. I’ve tried the m1 and I haven’t seen much diff tbh (I’m and computer engineering student) and can even argue that silicon is overrated (esp since us coders need to use windows and apple has snatched that away like it does everything.)

[@mb-iu4wh]

Yes I think the one monitor limitation and the slower transfer speeds are 2 main drawback that could be excusable for a first gen, but the fact it’s still the case with M2 makes me think Apple limits that on purpose or juste don’t care… That’s a real shame…

[@Eddy_E.]

The M2 is not really a second gen product, it’s more like s upgrade like on older iPhones… The M2 is based on the same structure like the M1, you can say it’s just an overlocked M1 not really more… A real update would be the next chip which is then based on a new structure, this will maybe not bring really much more power but I think it will offers way more features…

[@danger450]

Gee, it's almost as if they want you to upgrade to a better version to get that ...

[@Nogi-aka-DJNugz]

The main advantage is the fan sounds - I miss the sound of the ocean on the intel MacBooks pro

[@phoenixrising4995]

Plus dual booting Linux, honestly other than Mac I think Linux has a bright future on ARM. Windows on ARM is well 😂😂

[@nicolagabriel8520]

Nah man, I have both the 16" I9 and the base model 16" MBP , the I9 was almost 1k more expensive new and the M1 blew my mind while I found the I9 MBP not impressive at all. Having a few advantages doesn't make it better, also most apps are starting to get optimized for apple chips , that means it will only get better with time

[@nR-kv7xo]

yup, there's just no comparison. The heat, the slowness, management of memory, etc.

[@eliasbutcher859]

What’s interesting is he’s comparing an i5, not even an i9- like bruh mine is a dual core i5 turbo boosted from 2.3-3.6 GHz

[@eliasbutcher859]

Guys I upgraded to MBA M1 and it’s a million times better

[@Iridiumcosmos]

Yeah, I saw the title and I was like what is he talking about? It’s probably because around this time, AMD destroyed Intel with their Zen 3 chips so Intel fanboys were still seething over that. Simultaneously with Apple abandoning Intel because Intel Macs always performed like dogwater after a few updates. So Apple had enough and decided to essentially take the iPhone A14 and pump it with steroids and here we are. The M1 is literally almost triple the performance in multi-core and single core workloads against whatever the Intel offer was of that year. It was absolutely hysterical.

[@XYang2023]

Just built a PC with Intel 13600k for my wife. My wife uses it for work. It is my best purchase so far.

[@XYang2023]

@@tonyburzio4107 Windows 11 Pro. There is no ransom ware.

[@sir.fender6034]

intel 13th gen..oof

[@why-m3g]

@@XYang2023 install linux on that machine. please. or upgrade to windows 10

[@christopherjames9843]

Who cares?

[@alexanderalwayslate3855]

Have you tried updating Intel macs now? Apple slows them down and the battery life on the M chip macs are insane compared to intel. I’m not an editor or gamer and using my 14” MacBook Pro daily is better for me.

[@phoenixrising4995]

At least you can move over to Windows once Apple turns your computer into a potatoe or just simply says "time to move on".

[@winstonsmith935]

I am beginning to think this channel is totally confused. I’m so glad Computers are just Logic Machines, no ambiguity.

[@williamhelena7592]

Memory leak has been incredibly crippling in the professional video workspace. Random crashes and freezing from Premiere Pro calling for 328gb of RAM has been exhausting. Our team is frequently using 16” 2019 MBPs for mission critical work. Too risky for pro applications at a larger scale unfortunately

[@haysoos123]

I haven’t experienced this with Ventura using fcp for many days on fairly involved projects. It was supposed to be severely lessened with later Monterey as well. No issues with AE as well.

[@williamhelena7592]

@@haysoos123 Very interesting. FCP might be better optimized since it’s a native application.

[@haysoos123]

@@williamhelena7592 Premiere is apple silicon native and has been for a while now. But I agree that it's often buggy and that's Adobe's fault. Btw this isn't usually an OS issue, memory leaks happen in Windows also it's usually up to Adobe to fix.

[@williamhelena7592]

@@haysoos123 What i mean is FCP is made by apple to work best with apple silicon. FCP will always be a little smoother and better optimized for AS because that where apple puts their R&D into. They want it to just work. These mem leaks definitively are an Adobe problem for sure. I think we still need some more time to iron out the bugs with PP. Apple silicon is still so new

[@luxurybuzz3681]

Adobe had always sucked since before time began

[@AdiyaBayarmaa]

Vadim: "Personally, I would love to have 15 inch macbook air" Apple: "Your wish will be fulfilled"

[@billymania11]

There was quite a bit of hype around the ARM based Macs initially. All I can say is that I use a 2017 MacBook Pro (the middle model) and it still works great. True I did replace the battery and keyboard but other than that, it runs all of my software and quite a bit of that is Windows based. For folks running non-legacy software, the M1 Macs are great. For us IT consultants with one foot in the Windows world, the Intel Macs are much preferred.

[@TheeBucketMan]

I’m really looking forward to the new silicone upgrade myself but am still daily driving a 2014 mbp in my art studio 👌 even using a 2011 13” as a traveling gig machine on the regular still 🤌

[@Tech-geeky]

when I got my battery from IFixit I actually *enjoyed* replacing the battery. I know its kinda silly, but i took my time ....on purpose.. to unscrew screws 😆 It was like watching a slow motion picture. Looking back, i wish i could do that again. The memories live on...

[@joesalyers]

Max & Vadim We need a video about what we can do with those old eGPU Boxes we have lying around now. Should we make the Storage or capture cards or what? So many people like myself had AMD GPUs in those eGPU boxes and now we have the box just sitting there empty.

[@DavidAlsh]

M1 is great but sucks at virtualization, Docker, and other OS support (Linux and Windows). As a software engineer, I get 3 hours of battery life when working on my MBP 14. I'm saddened that Apple are ignoring software engineers and refusing to modernize the developer experience on (and for) MacOS. As a gamer I get 4ish hours gaming over crossover. All in all, when push comes to shove, battery life is pretty similar to my Intel MacBook. Performance is better when running native workloads but overall it's been a net loss for my work and play

[@phoenixrising4995]

Better to get one of those System 76 Laptops with the 3080Ti in it. Battery Life is 3 hours there but at least you got a 3080Ti and Linux which would be a better native experience.

[@brandonsmith6962]

Stop it just stop it

[@Exxecer]

Whut

[@RasikaFernando]

Plz!🙏 Plz!🙏 STOP! being overexcited and overreacting… I love your channel…❤ but there’s no argument, no debate! everyone knows… intel is way behind n out of the competition with apple silicon… don’t be hyped and try to convey false message.

[@bikibalami]

Bro its their livelyhood lol. Just dont watch him if you dont want to.

[@cr.recording]

Bigger is better lol way more ports , I don’t want those to go away again 😂

[@ettcha]

I know it's hard to believe, but there are people out there for whom some of these issues apply. I'm one of them! So yes, a KZbinr made content, but I don't mind it coz it's going to educate those making buying decisions about these issues today and going forward.

[@PilotAV8R]

Personally, I would love for Apple to bring a 17” back. Larger than 17 would be better! I travel a lot and work in 200k row x 30 column spreadsheets. 16” is frustratingly small for me.

[@unlopx2780]

If there was 18inch pro version oh boi I'd run to the shop immediately

[@AzVfL]

@@unlopx2780 make it 19

[@tobbiganz4215]

Why not a 34" model?

[@jamescompany7983]

Just make it 20" don't be shy

[@unlopx2780]

@@AzVfL idc just make it big.. it's useful when having to research on Google while coding

[@balisbest]

I got a imac 2017 few months back for 400 euro and upgraded it to 32 gb ram and 1 tb nvme has a 4 k retina screen for 600 total. 👍🏽 Smooth like butter

[@ResizeFilms]

My iMac Pro (Xeon W processor / ECC RAM / Vega Graphics HBM2 memory) is still going strong for professional video editing and 3D modeling on a daily basis. Without a single crash. Has paid for itself countless times already, amazing machine. - Filipe

[@Daffe8]

i have the mbp M1 pro 14" and im impressed with all the power of this machine!!! great work silicon!!!

[@milossavkovic1970]

Me too, It’s incredible.

[@ryanreedgibson]

I work on two displays.

[@mannkeithc]

I still use my 2019 Intel 13-inch MacBook Pro primarily for eGPU support and Bootcamp. Windows 11 22H2 works well and allows me to run my GUI Linux apps and Android apps alongside my Windows apps. I will never buy another MacBook due to the lack of intrinsic touch display and pen support. I did buy a M1 12.9-inch iPad Pro 2TB 5G with magic keyboard. But despite the fantastic hardware, iPad OS 16 turns it into a big white elephant, where I still need to carry around with it a Raspberry Pi 4 USB-C accessory to do all the computer things an iPad Pro can't do! The only thing Pro about the iPad Pro is its price! I recently bought a Microsoft Dev Kit 2023 when the Apple Mac Mini with M2 Pro processor failed to materialise this autumn. For £579 I got an incredibly quiet power efficient mini-PC with 32 GB RAM and 515 GB upgradable SSD. OK, the Snapdragon 8cx Gen 3 is no match for the M1 and M2 processors, but it still surprisingly good when running Windows arm64 binaries and performs just as well as the eighth gen Intel i7 processor in my MacBook Pro. I was surprised how many of the Windows's apps I use on a day to basis already have arm64 binaries, including Edge. And because Edge is based on Chrome, Edge installs and runs all my Google apps fine. And as with another Windows 11 computers, I can also run Linux GUI apps and Android apps. Even some of the emulators I use such as Dolphin and PPSSPP have arm64 binaries and run great. And with Microsoft Visual Studio 2022 and vcpkg now including arm64 support, you can recompile other source code and libraries into Windows arm64 binaries and DLLs. When I take this into account, plus spiralling costs, new high performance ARM processors in the pipeline for Windows laptops, and Apple's "Big Brother" mentality towards its customers, I find myself approaching a decision point. Do I stick with the Apple products and ecosystem, or transition away? Apple computing devices aren't going in the direction I want or need. Apple is still too focussed on getting its customers to buy lots of their hardware over providing a great software operating system wrap that allows them to fully maximise any one device's underlying performance and get excellent value for money, e.g. M series iPad Pros. I think the next 1 - 2 years could be testing time for Apple, and they may need to rethink their business model if they want to retain their customer base.

[@B.Ch3rry]

TLDR… Learn to separate your comments into digestible paragraphs!

[@LooneyTo0n]

@@B.Ch3rry Your loss.

[@B.Ch3rry]

@@LooneyTo0n 🤡K

[@theidiotwithinternet]

Would love to see an apple designed CAD software

[@miriumsonos5277]

Fusion 360 works on mac and its very intuitive.

[@suaveeze]

I have an 2017 iMac and it hasn’t seen a plug since I got M1 Pro 14. I can’t find one thing better old iMacs can do for my work flow.

[@DKGCustom]

I installed Unreal to build virtual studios for streaming, only to find out that it will not and cannot take in video or audio captures. Such a simple thing that Unreal seem to not bother addressing

[@hugalahugala5182]

I got latest imac 2020 with i9 10-core, 5700 xt 16 gb and 1 tb ssd, upgraded ram to 128 gb by myself. I was a bit upset for my investment after the m1 macs but I’m really happy just because of the boot camp option now. For some reason I wanted to play games again, so gave a try to boot camp. And I’ve realized that I can even play heavy games like Battlefield V with ultra details at 3k resolution for almost 100+ fps. I wasn’t expect such performance and stability with boot camp, really suprized. Only issue with gaming is the 60 hz imac display, fps games feels like laggy. But I got 34 inch 165 hz ultra wide as external monitor and gaming is damn smooth with it. Imac has saved me from building a separate pc as a casual gamer. I use it as workstation and gaming pc now :)

[@luxurybuzz3681]

I have a 2012 MacBookPro and it runs Battlefield V

[@flanerpete2040]

Still enjoying my 5-year old iMac i5 27".

[@danield2398]

Don’t have any issues on Macbook Air M1 2020. Only low SSD memory.

[@OnlyTruthLove]

I game on my intel macbook windows running on bootcamp. Do the newer m chips have bootcamp? Could you game on those? Are they better?

[@devcybiko]

Great review, as usual. One qualifier: You *can* get multiple external displays for low-end Macs if you use DisplayLink connectors which can be had for as little as $100. So, you don't have to "spend another $2000" to get multiple external displays... you can do it for $100 - it's just not a native solution. Continued Success and I'm subscribed.

[@t.e.k.profitstraders8796]

Yes, agreed. But the real problem is, once that port is used for external display...how many ports do we have left? If I have an i/o (which is suggested to be directly connected for better Audio), al an External Hard-Drive...USB/Midi Keyboard, Controllers etc....There isn't enough USB ports as it is!! Missing the point here....& Apple lol

[@devcybiko]

@@t.e.k.profitstraders8796 I use external docks to give me access to displays and other devices for my laptop.

[@Rappasta]

Even tho I have a 14 mcp M1 Pro, I still use everyday my 2013 MacBook Pro 15 because of windows support, cause there are programs STILL not available on macOS :(

[@macguru9999]

So Max have you sold your mac pro yet ?

[@TonyLasagna]

I’d have to say though….if you are buying the budget MacBook Air, would you really be spending money on more than one display?

[@hellobooom]

It is possible to already own displays...

[@TonyLasagna]

@@hellobooom touché - speaking purely from a point of purchase perspective though, should have added that

[@rafaburdzy449]

I install linux on my old Intel Macbook Air. I hear that there is a way to run Ashi linux on silicon ,but on Intel is much more easy

[@brendank6324]

Im looking to buy a Refurbished Macbook air 2020, with the intel. Its really cheap but is it as reliable as the new ones? Its probably okay if it not as fast. How are people liking it in comparison?

[@shoarectube]

Daisy chaining displays is not possible on intel macs either, unless you use an adaptor which uses 2 thunderbird ports on the mac. This effectively means that the adapter does the job of daisy chaining, while actually presenting 2 individual connections to the mac. Look it up

[@emanueleriontino9289]

The frustrating thing is that if you run windows with boot camp daisy chain works…. So is just a software limitation made on purpose to limit the user in their ecosystem. In fact daisy chain works if you buy their thunderbolts monitors

[@shoarectube]

@@emanueleriontino9289 correct, but the video does not make this distinction. He just says that you loose this with ARM.. which is at least a bit misleading.

[@srinu57]

Apple still needs to sell Intel Macs for supporting developers and programmers on X86 systems. ARM based machines are only for light weight browsing and binge watching, not for developers

[@caver38]

At least Apple is trying to make newer hardware , most PC manufacturers just copy , not create something new . Without controlling the improvements in the OS , PCs will never change that much

[@MichaelArgentini]

M1 and M2 Macs also have slower WiFi connections. Intel uses MIMO so you can get 1.7Gbps versus the new Macs topping out at 866mbps. It's pathetic.

[@makegamemusic]

I’m still running an Intel iMac. I’m wondering, how many more versions of MacOS do you will be supported on Intel machines?

[@movieblues4614]

The Apple Standard, at least since Tim Cook took the helm, is a minimum of 5 years of OS upgrades from the date of sale. The last Intel Mac to be released was the 2020 27" iMac, so that one, at least, should get the new 2025 OS.

[@ContraVsGigi]

Not sure you want all updates as Apple has a habit of destroying performance of the older hardware to force people to upgrade.

[@makegamemusic]

@@movieblues4614 That would be acceptable from them, probably about the right time to upgrade if it then runs out in Q4 2026.

[@makegamemusic]

@@ContraVsGigi I'm actually running a 2013 27 iMac with the Opencore Legacy Patcher running Ventura and suprisingly it's just as nippy as the previous OS versions but I get your point. I remember the older iPhones becoming unuseable by the last 'supported' iOS release.

[@movieblues4614]

@@makegamemusic The date may be later than 2026. Both the intel macMini and Mac Pro are still being sold.

[@DBLCreations]

I'm honestly very happy with my 16-core Mac Pro 2019. I knew this would be the right decision for me. Especially the fact that you can still upgrade it down the line. Truth be told, my GPU is the biggest bottleneck in my MP because i didn't really need a "beefy" GPU at the time as i'm working more with Logic Pro than i do with Final Cut Pro. However, even with simple things as having a lot of Chrome tabs open i can see the memory of my GPU go sky rocket! I already cleaned my Mac pro as well as i think that after a year it was time. Though there wasn't so many dust or anything so i was happy to see that my MP was pretty clean. For my new M1 Macbook Air though, i was really happy. I think Apple Silicon for laptop/iPad is absolutely the way to go. But i don't think it's really ready for heavy duty desktops. No, not even the Mac Studio. Which is a nice performer, but with the compatibility issues with some of the pro apps. I just don't think it's ready. Once the new Apple Silicon Mac Pro will be announced, that's when i believe we'll start to finally see the differences. I also hope that for the iPad pro, native pro apps like logic, Final Cut, etc... will finally be on the iPad Pro.

[@nine27]

well 10 months later how do you feel about everything?

[@DBLCreations]

@@nine27 Still pretty good. I still can upgrade my GPU to a newer one which i'm going to do because i need new TB3 ports. The Mac Pro 2019 is plenty fast for what i want to do with it. 🙂

[@nine27]

@@DBLCreations Nicee ‼️‼️‼️

[@Shel_loud]

So if I bought a 2020 mbp intel 10th gen would I be able to use a dell WD19s adapter to support multiple monitors?

[@MartinoDini]

M chips are exactly what laptop dreamed for the last 10 years : fast, reliable, powerful, plenty of battery, silent. No throttling. Take some time for being happy about things

[@Ghajahha]

Plenty of battery is the only factor really, which is enough of a use for more daily users

[@phplaw]

I just switched to MacBook Pro 16inch M3 Max from MacBook Pro 16inch 2019 Intel core i9 and It is insane good. Damn Intel, you really did shit that why Apple has stopped using your CPU

[@SoftwareWrangler]

Parallels run all my windows apps (for coding, and productivity..) did find even one not working.

[@khanscombe619]

What is the last of the i9 8 or 10 core Intel MacBook Pro 16"? Any place to get new old stock or refetb?

[@pankajjoshi2032]

I'm still using my 13inch MacBook pro mid 2014, now it's asking to replace new battery. I was thinking about buying a new one but after reading reviews I might just replace the battery.

[@nicosoftnt]

Watchout for the keyboard of the m1 pro... Mine makes spring-like sounds 4 months after purchase. I'm sending it for a review.

[@palebluedotstudios]

For pro audio, M1s are still nightmares. My brother got the Mac Studio and he still can't run Cubase natively, most plugins haven't been updated, and software synthesizer CPU is much higher than before. I'm glad I got my 2019 iMac, even though I can't wait to get an M1. But I will indeed wait...

[@danield2398]

But that’s not a problem of Mac Studio. That is the problem of Cubase

[@palebluedotstudios]

@@danield2398 Yes and no. The audio industry was still reeling from the changes from Big Sur to Monterey (and virtually nothing is certified for Ventura), then they have to code for an entirely new processor on top of that. Sure, Cubase maybe hasn't done a great job with M1, but the main point is: hundreds of plugins still aren't updated. So it's still not a good time to switch to M1 for pro audio 2 years in, unless you're using Logic with only M1-safe plugins. It's very limiting. And things like Apple's FInal Cut Pro aren't even optimized! It's a strange situation...and I say this as an Apple fan.

[@danield2398]

@@palebluedotstudios as the drummer, I use Logic Pro X and Final Cut I don’t have big problems with the software. Maybe you should try to switch to another DAW and select similar plugins. Also you can switch to Windows any time you want😅 I have IMac 2019 on Intel and I hate it, every week I have kernel panic without any reason because I’m using non-Apple SSD blade.

[@palebluedotstudios]

​@@danield2398 Nah, no need for me to switch. My 2019 Intel iMac runs like a dream. Best computer I've ever owned, and I just can't do Windows anymore (my first 15 years were on PC). My old Mac Pro did have kernel panic issues, so I get it; that's frustrating. Macs are really picky about externals sometimes; although so far my Samsung SSDs have been totally stable. Cheers.

[@jaimeerobertswarz]

I just have to point out the macbook I purchased in 2020 was a 12” Macbook 2017 Model with an M3 chip. I needed it 2:45 for school, music, photos, browsing. Now this Macbook was blazing fast until this year. Apple used to support macbooks based off specs but a souped out 2017 macbook pro touchbar wont run 2022 Mac Os? Nor my macbook. There both lagged down even though the other macbooks specs are far better. From what I have seen as of now. They are purposefully phasing out intel macbooks and slowing down performance. On there website it shows what supported mac devices will run Sonoma. Theres not many that go beyond 2019/2018 & I believe thats due to them phasing out intels partnership.

[@niklasrosemusic]

since early 2023, i have an 2018 mac mini with an i7 chip, an internal ssd with 1 terabyte and 32 gigabytes of ram. and for electronic musci production, this still works great and i don't see a point to switch to apple silicon. there are too many pieces of hard- and software i own being incompatible with silicon/arm. and there even are some plugins being incompatible with mac os, so having an option to use boot camp/windows is a must for my workflow (and there is also a saying "never change a running system". but i changed my system erly 2023 because my old system could not run anymore). currently, i am setting up an 16" macbook pro from 2019 with 32 gigabytes of ram, an ssd with 2 terabytes and an i9 chip for making music on the go. conclusing: i personally consider intel macs still better (as for now, one can never know what time is goin' to bring) (and no, it's not because i am an fanboy. i am saying that intel need to decrease the nanometres they produce their chips with). for just "consumers", an silicon chip might be all fine. but for people like me, using professional apps, i have following tip: just wait with buyin' a silicon-mac, even in 2023

[@runthomas]

i have the macbook pro m1 pro ....and this machine is AMAZING, seriously ..its the best thing i have ever witnessed. and i am a linux fan boy...not some windows numpty who knows nothing about computing...and i use a lot of processing , and this thing is silent...and cool...truly amazing.

[@MALR9860]

Easily resolved with DisplayLink Manager and DisplayLink compatible dock/hub. Solution works well if you don't need the higher end MacBook and you still need to use a two display setup.

[@matuslivora7469]

well but you’re out of luck when you want to watch Netflix, Apple TV and so…

[@matthewblue7839]

My m1 mini smokes my older mbp, the mini works perfectly, never heard the fans come on.

[@JCatharsis]

Apple Silicon Macs are no go for me as a developer. I need to use Ubuntu 20.04 for ROS and Silicon Macs can't run that version. I'm still enjoying the every bit of my 16" i9 Macbook Pro when my friends have been spending a lot of time researching to install stuff on Silicon Macs..

[@torontodough2755]

I have the same problems with android studio and other compatibility related issues last year. Fortunately so many devs are using apple silicon now which pushed many companies to update their software

[@iLegionaire3755]

If your going to buy an Intel Mac, do yourself a favor and just get an Intel or AMD PC. Best gaming platform in the galaxy. Apple Silicon is the way for any Mac purchase, but wait to judge Apple's gaming performance until M4 Ultra, M4 Max and M4 Extreme, as the M3 Max showed a lot of gaming promise and potential for ARM. Apple could in fact, be preparing the M4 chip to officially begin competing in gaming again. Snapdragon X Elite is speedy, but Apple Silicon is the fastest ARM CPU bar none.

[@ChrisLeiter]

Been using m1 and M1 Max everyday and zero regrets and zero things I miss about the Intel. Zero. Professional and personal use. Video, photo, robotic, software dev, etc etc etc. virtual machines, and more. I could not be happier.

[@mr.mysterious7940]

I have an AMD Ryzen 5600x desktop and an M1 Pro 14 inch. The two processors are similar in benchmarking with the 5600x beating the M1 Pro by a bit. However, there is a huge difference in video editing and exporting. I use video studio on the desktop and scrolling though the video in the project line is trash. You have to sit there and let the software convert the video to lower resolution so you can scrub faster. However on the M1 Pro, no matter what software you use, scrubbing is instantaneous and smooth. It's amazing but I can't figure out why it's so good on the M1. The drive on the PC is an NVme so it's fast and the gpu is an rtx 3090. All of that power and floor space and this little laptop does video editing much better.

[@ChrisLeiter]

@@mr.mysterious7940 yeah, my desktop rig is a 64gb i9 w/3080Ti w/2tb of NVME and vs my M1 Max 10/14core w/64gb for video editing/scrubbing/exporting? Not even close. The 16” MacBook Pro absolutely destroys it.

[@mr.mysterious7940]

@@ChrisLeiter That's awesome. I still cling to PCs due to the hobbyist/builder in me, so I'm torn between two worlds.

[@QUANTUMJOKER]

Unified memory is extremely fast and efficient but has some drawbacks, and there is still merit in discreet memory. Modern Mac OS consumes about 4 GB of RAM on its own; if you have an 8 GB M1 chip, the computer's systems and components therefore have a much smaller share of the remaining RAM. While swap memory activity is fairly normal, my M1 Mac Mini engages in swap activity almost all the time with 8 GB. My 2012 MacBook Pro has 16 GB of RAM and a 1.5 GB Intel HD 4000 GPU. My 2013 Mac Pro has 16 GB of RAM and dual 2 GB AMD graphics cards. These computers almost never perform swap activity, as they have a huge amount of RAM dedicated to the CPU, and a big amount of memory unique to the GPUs.

[@framedthunder6436]

With the M2 u can go to 24gb thought

[@Tech-geeky]

putting is loosely,, I think major drawbacks... no one can replace memory anymore. That's a big deal, but when you consider people get better macs every two years anyway, perhaps it doesn't matter. User decides.

[@branisulek3628]

It was you guys raving about transition, comparing performance of the Studio with the iMac Pro for instance. Once again Apple leaves pro users in limbo. And that is a disgrace. I don't like your sentiment oscilating between excitement and disappointment based on what it looks like your channel monetization immediate needs... I'd expect more firm, independent and critical attitude from you guys, just like the one you used to have when you started... That's what I liked and I miss in your latest videos...

[@aaronwibr]

.... damn. Big facts lol 😆

[@charlesjmouse]

Apple Silicon exists for only one reason: To widen Apple's profit margins. By all means buy in to the closed Apple ecosystem if it's going to suit you and you keep your eyes open. But make no mistake, Apple sees you only as something from which to squeeze as much money from as regularly as possible.

[@denniskozevnikoff1209]

that's the case with every big organization, not only apple

[@junaidsiddiquemusic]

Yeah and dropping support for perfectly working Macs out there. In the WWDC 2023, after the announcement of MacOS Sonoma I was kinda disappointed at the fact that my maxed out 27 inch 2017 5K iMac isn't supported anymore. And I really don't think that hardware wise it's obsolete in 2023, I also had swapped it's spinning hard drive to a SSD but yeah apple being apple decided not to support it. And as for the MacBooks the oldest it supports are from 2018 so it means by next year it will be 2019 and after that boom! My maxed out 2019 16 inch MacBook pro will be a potato too :(

[@mouniswar7]

We want Macs with apple silicon as they consume less power and offers incredibly high performance

[@lashlarue59]

Are Intel based Macs still being manufactured?

[@thisenable]

My friend is offering this same model (Air 2017) with 1870 Cycle Count, Full Charge Capacity 80% and Design Capacity 57% on coconut Battery. Catalina OS, i5. Bought in 2018 All for 180usd. She says she is able to use it and just has to keep it plugged often. Servicw Recommended popped up buy she hasn't gone yet. I appreciate their honesty and we are close so I can decline or take offer easily, but we both don't know if it's worth or importance if those specs What are your thoughts?

[@quinnsells1222]

just upgraded from an m1 to an m3 max and i can confirm that all of these problems with rosetta translation go away purely because of the raw power. I have the maxed out chip with 64gb of ram and absolutely nothing can make it choke it feels like lol

[@slydude8200]

I’m happy with my M1 2020 MacBook Air. I wouldn’t go back to intel from this point. Never had a pro model and I’ve done a lot of designer work on my MB Air. I just don’t need a heavier pro machine for the extra money. I buy cheap Macs 😂 and I don’t game on the Mac so, … I’m happy 🎉

[@imakethesites3048]

I traded in my 16" 2019 MacBook Pro for a 2021 M1 16" MacBook Pro last year because I was scared by other people saying the resale price/trade-in value was sure to go down quickly. Lesson learned: don't trust people online.

[@MajorTrollerHAK]

It did, here in Canada the apple trade in went for i9 1TB 16” from $2.2K to $1.6K in less than a month and just checked right now to $400.

[@williamhelena7592]

Yeah the value did tank. You can barely fetch $600 for a fully spec’d 16” 2019 :/

[@imakethesites3048]

I guess they were right, in this video he admits that it's easy to find cheaper Intel MacBooks now, many were so sure these would be fully functional and receive full support from developers, instead there are the problems in this video. Personally, I hate having to switch to my Dell for games and I haven't noticed a big enough difference in my web development work to justify upgrading.

[@torontodough2755]

You did the right thing anyway. Apple silicon is the future. If you really need an intel mac for compatibility stuff, just use hackintosh

[@joebyvictor2619]

Definitely tanked. In UK I just sold my maxed out 2019 16” for just £1100 recently couldn’t get more, yet previous to 16” apple silicon it was around £2700. Millions of 16” intels available on sites and demand is low. Sums up what majority want - way more power and MUCH better displays. For 95% users apple silicon is a no brainer, anyone denying this is deluded! Also so many here commenting about apple silicon who are not even using it and therefore experiencing the actual real world benefits. It was like night and day for me when I switched. No more burning lap, much faster workflow as a professional film maker and photographer (Adobe/DaVinci/FCP), and games I simply couldn’t play on maxed out 16” 2019 like Planet Coster, are now incredible. MagSafe HDMI. And SD card reader ports game changing for me professionally.

[@Formatbeatz]

So much wired infos about new MacBooks. They are very powerful. Only professional Designers and Moviemakers need more than a basic version.

[@GuiltyJit]

Im fine don't have any problems so far, and I really love the less fan noise

[@corrd3ll]

Just got my first M1 product(IPad Air 5). I look forward to going all M1/ M2 products in the near future. I’m just glad my 27” 2017 IMac that I upgraded the cpu/ gpu/ ssd is still supported rn☺️

[@zackwalker7090]

Reason i still prefer upgrade or buy Mac's intel than ARM silicon i want work on mac but still like playing game on windows but i don't want spend a little more for building a PC

[@torontodough2755]

what games are you playing? check if it works with crossover for apple silicon

[@zackwalker7090]

@@torontodough2755 Genshin impact, and only mobile version is can be played but it hard to installed

[@SatyaS_Pradhan]

Max Tech: M1 & M2 can't do 2 displays. Apple: Are we doing a donation drive to please youtubers now?

[@captainegusto]

I must say, everybody told me to wait for the M1 to be released before buying a new laptop, so I did. And damn I regretted it so hard. As music producer, I had so many problems using MAO softwares... Also, I had countless technical problems with the M1 compared to the Intel, which had never failed me. That's why I decided to switch back to Intel and to sell my M1.

[@unkown34x33]

Same... My friend is a music producer, he somehow knew the m1 was going to screw up his flow! He uses windows laptop, and one macbook from 2015. Until today, he never bought more laptops

[@PoipoleMujigae]

If you’re a music producer, what DAW do you use, and what external plugins do you use?

[@donbenjamin3]

Running Windows 11 Arm on my MacBook Pro M1 Pro using Parallels is really slick. I don’t need Windows often-usually for MS Access-but when I do, the MacBook handles it with ease.

[@awzsdrcfgybhjimklp]

It is funny that you posted this recently because right about now I am reflecting on if my M1 mac was even a good purchase since I almost always use my intel 16” laptop over my M1. I think I will sell my M1.

[@geminiflower]

Just curious why do you prefer using the intel?

[@awzsdrcfgybhjimklp]

@@geminiflower Because stuff just works where I have had some issues with the m1. I can't use it for work because it doesn't support my two 4k monitors, I prefer to use 1 laptop so I can pick up where I left off, the m1 has unexpected compatibility issues with some programs that were built for Intel computers (hardware acceleration, architecture dependencies), Initially I only bought the computer as a light computer for my studies and I use mobile apps for my studies and I thought the m1 would be a good purchase because at the time that I bought it I could install iPhone apps on it and though they were buggy I appreciated the feature until Apple took it away. Also some other things that bother me are the lack of ports as I am used to having 4 thunderbolt ports, and that I can't use bootcamp and the virtual machines don't cut it for my uses.

[@AbiyBattleSpell]

U can buy a dongle to do like more displays even on the air. Sure it’s extra cost but rather do that then stick with older intel macs

[@masterstacker2833]

They make great lap warmers.

[@vanesslifeygo]

I don't know about you, but the display on my apple silicon is more than good enough to not need those external displays. You can use third party software to create a different desktop or workspace and shuffle between them.

[@charminbaer2323]

NOPE. My M1 Pro 16" MBP will last me an entire day without having to recharge it. Sometimes when I bring it to work, I'll only bring the 30w USB-C charger from Apple and use that to charge my MBP if I'm not using it. No problems for me over here as a photographer. Speaking of, I REALLY wish Apple would bring back Aperture for us professional photographers. Aperture with iCloud sync would be a godsend, I would immediately drop Adobe Lightroom in a heartbeat.

[@joebyvictor2619]

Agree Aperture was the best. Definitely a gap in the system.

[@zacharyschwanke7160]

I just bought a mid 2012 15” MacBook Pro and I’m really happy with it

[@rishiktiwari]

I use 2 external monitors in extended mode with M1 pro and it works flawlessly. One monitor connected to HDMI out and another using a type-c dock.

[@aravindhm1068]

M1 and M1 pro are 2 completely different chips

[@rishiktiwari]

@@aravindhm1068Yes, i know.

[@johnwaldmann5222]

The onlymproblem with m1 macs was delivered by Monterey, qnd maintained by Ventura -bluetooth audio connection fails. Fix that in software (like it was in big sur qnd i would be happy.

[@calijay9805]

Good points. Great video. No way in hell I’m going back to an Intel Mac. Nor would I recommend anyone else to.

[@willardlacy5008]

Ugh! I bought a M1 because of the reviews when this chip was debuted now this. So what should one due going forward, wait 2 years before committing to a new Mac 🖥️

[@RaghavVijay]

What’s wrong with your M1-If it’s working fine then just use it as normal?.

[@torontodough2755]

M1 is a beast. Dunno why people are crying lmao. This video is just a stupid clickbait

[@RaghavVijay]

@@torontodough2755 M1 Mac’s are a beast but the video is not click bait fully.I mean most of his points had nothing to do with the performance,it was mostly apps support ect,which are some fair points to make,but noting that makes the M1 seem worse then Intel though.

[@ChromaSup]

I´ll just say if you compare the macbook air early 2020 intel against the air late 2020 apple, the difference is massive, the M1 is just so much better

[@metalslugg3r]

How were you running Call of Duty Mobile on a Mac at 05:13?

[@fmlazar]

Applications not optimised for M1 are the fault of the programmers not the M1. An not even Intel Macs ever ran games, the machines were never built for it.

[@JohnGaroPiano]

My 2020 Intel MacBook Pro performs pretty poorly even with simple tasks like web browsing; when I use any more complex apps like Final Cut the computer will crash almost every time

[@nojusticenopeace8717]

When first released it was the best as 10 years ahead, and now you guys do a video saying the intel it’s better!! So you guys are doing disservice to the people, unsubscribed!

[@tah6746]

I am glad I have a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 Running Linux now, as Apple has dropped support for the 2010 Mac Pro. With the 2010 Mac Pro I can upgrade everything easily. So far, I have upgraded the CPU's, the GPU, RAM, and Hard Drives, added a USB 3 Card. That runs very well and I saved a huge amount of Money going with the 2010 Mac Pro that Mac killed off by dropping support and limiting its Mac OS compatibility.

[@lenn55]

I'm holding on to my early 2008 15" MBP till Apple releases a 15" MBA

[@Vizenz121_OR]

I would love an arm 17+ MBP once everything becomes optimized. I really miss that size

[@sarah-janelambert8962]

It would be great if you would highlight that Autodesk Maya still does not run on Apple Silicon after two years of waiting. The Mac VFX industry is being completely let down by Autodesk.

[@ContraVsGigi]

Is switching to something else an option? Blender maybe?

[@Jessica_Rose131]

But can it still updates to the latest apple software

[@JulAlxAU]

I have the latest Pro 13” right before M1 was introduced. Just don’t like it when it gets too hot! And not sold on the arm architecture as yet, given the compatibility issues. Planning to upgrade in a couple of years when the architecture is mature and broad support for it is available.

[@ismaeltorres3219]

That's fair enough. I've been using the m1 air for like a year, and everything runs fine but looking through system monitor there are a lot of apps still that are using Rosetta and not ARM ready.