How Kaladesh Became Avishkar - Magic: The Gathering Lore - Aetherdrift Lore

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Today we talk about how mtgs plane of Kaladesh became Avishkar
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@FantasyGeographic
@FantasyGeographic Ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by my friends, Lore Is Life!
@jaydub5515
@jaydub5515 Ай бұрын
You know Papa Purp, I love your channel, even though I don't play Magic anymore, but I miss the good ol' days of Lore.... The Weather light Saga, Odyssey and Onslaught Blocks, that was some great storytelling.
@greyjedi1272
@greyjedi1272 Ай бұрын
This gives me the feeling the magic story is going in a game of thrones/cold direction which could be a good change from horrors from beyond.
@tcsmagicbox
@tcsmagicbox 7 күн бұрын
That's cool! Now the planes are learning to interact and work with each other like how different countries form alliances.
@FantasyGeographic
@FantasyGeographic 6 күн бұрын
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@japoniano
@japoniano Ай бұрын
I love WotC when it trips on itself: they did everything they could to not to colonialism in OTJ (in spite that there is a native cactus-folk race), and now make a whole set about Avishkar doing colonialism thru a Public Relationship stunt. It's funny how lorewise Avishkar is investing LOTS of resources on a PR stunt... I wonder how much rebuilding on their OWN plane is still due...
@josephcourtright8071
@josephcourtright8071 Ай бұрын
We all know its name changed because the sensitivity consultant had to find something wrong to justify their existence.
@Caliban_80
@Caliban_80 Ай бұрын
The thing is, it’s hard to imagine they didn’t go through extensive cultural advising when they designed the set. Weird that this comes up now
@cosmicodyssey3382
@cosmicodyssey3382 Ай бұрын
Accurate
@EvertfromNederland
@EvertfromNederland Ай бұрын
@@Caliban_80 That's because it should have never been an issue. The whole problem around the word "Kala" is made up. If you google 'Hindi to English translation' and type in the Hindu word 'Kaala' you will find this indeed means 'black'. Type in 'Kala' however and the word 'Art' comes up. It was never a problem. It's two completely different words that happen to sound the same.
@PierreVB-514
@PierreVB-514 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this update ! I personally keep an eye on the plane of Arcavios since it is the home world of Strixhaven and lots of creative minds. Dominaria and Alara had so much beauty, but wars just tore those apart. I'll admit that Ravnica still holds plenty of mystique and intrigue, but the lower levels and chaotic guilds make so risky to venture on.
@MTGUnpacked
@MTGUnpacked Ай бұрын
Nice summary! I could follow this way easier than the livestream they did😁
@MarioJPC
@MarioJPC Ай бұрын
Second time of a huge change of identity and name, Argentum/Mirrodin/New Phirexia is a different story; but a change nonetheless.
@Mirthful_Midori
@Mirthful_Midori Ай бұрын
The best part is translating the new name into Albanian. "A vish kar" translated sounds like part of a Monty Python skit.
@EMSWK
@EMSWK Ай бұрын
I guess this means that we could in theory get new names for other old plans that wizards has abandoned for copyright reasons
@DrunkenPilotVideos
@DrunkenPilotVideos Ай бұрын
I would love a Return to Rabiah under a new name
@santhanamkumar862
@santhanamkumar862 9 күн бұрын
Avishkar vs Ravnica Cold war!
@everydayesperanto
@everydayesperanto Ай бұрын
How dare you use such an offensive word like Kaledesh. And once I figure out why it’s offensive I’ll really be mad.
@Jesse_The_Enchanter
@Jesse_The_Enchanter Ай бұрын
This 😂
@TerryTags
@TerryTags Ай бұрын
Desh means "world", and Kalā means "energy", but Kāla means "black" ... so... since we were supposed to call the plane ka-LAH-desh to mean "energy world", but we've all been pronouncing it KA-la-DESH which means something closer to like "the world of blacks" or whatever, they decided to change the plane so it didn't sound so racist.
@Jesse_The_Enchanter
@Jesse_The_Enchanter Ай бұрын
@ Sounds like a lame reason.
@everydayesperanto
@everydayesperanto Ай бұрын
@@Jesse_The_Enchanter I wonder if someone complained.
@Jesse_The_Enchanter
@Jesse_The_Enchanter Ай бұрын
@@everydayesperanto It sounds like they hired a third party consultant to look through their stuff for DEI BS.
@SamuraiMotoko
@SamuraiMotoko Ай бұрын
At least they made a giant excuse to justify a dumb reason
@baileylaviolette543
@baileylaviolette543 Ай бұрын
Now THAT is the good ol' MTG worldbuilding I always loved. If I were Chandra, I would be so beyond proud of my homeland
@Case2_0
@Case2_0 Ай бұрын
Eh. I would be mad about the Aether Revolt being worthless. All those people died for nothing
@Noahloveless1
@Noahloveless1 Ай бұрын
Typical of you lot. Sad, really.
@haslittle8078
@haslittle8078 Ай бұрын
That sounds really dumb. Why did they have a revolution if they were just going to leave the same people in charge? Why did the reformed government completely ignore the phyrexians? Why did they abdicate voluntarily? This sounds like the current state is what was supposed to exist after the real revolution, then WotC stepped in and said "Actually, that one didn't change very much, so we had another revolution offscreen" because they needed a reason for such a radical change to the setting.
@nasayatcg
@nasayatcg Ай бұрын
My first time at this channel. Am I insane or does this sound like a calmer magic historian?
@FantasyGeographic
@FantasyGeographic Ай бұрын
You're not insane. Same guy.
@nasayatcg
@nasayatcg Ай бұрын
@ I enjoyed the flow 👑
@MysteriousSoulreaper
@MysteriousSoulreaper Ай бұрын
I feel like Wizards could avoid a lot of issues if they just released a pronunciation or derivation guide for their card and set names.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 Ай бұрын
Captain N'ghathrod has entered chat.
@jscc1786
@jscc1786 Ай бұрын
I feel like wizards would have been better to lean into it. "We all know Kaladesh as an art/invention city, but what most miss is the Dark underpinnings the city started from" Own it & write a banger prehistory story
@John-nf9jn
@John-nf9jn Ай бұрын
This makes the most sense as money laundering. It''s like buying and selling art. No one knows how much a piece of art is really worth. Could be worthless, could be thousands. If you over pay for a piece of art, whose to say? If the artist happens to be related to the buyer and some of that money makes its way back to the buyer afterward, who''s going to know? This consulting company is selling a goofball service that WOTC could have an intern do for nothing, but when it's done by"professionals" maybe it really does cost whatever absurd amount WOTc execs shelled out? Who's to say? I mean we all know that the current WOTC leadership is totally ethical and not greedy at all right?
@davidbrasher3595
@davidbrasher3595 7 күн бұрын
What about Argentium/Mirrodin/New Phyrexia? It had name changes and serious changes in culture and goals.
@Tru3kisame
@Tru3kisame Ай бұрын
So Avishkar basically inve So Avishkar basically invented the Wacky Races for the Magic Multiverse....cool
@alfredvonfleisch
@alfredvonfleisch Ай бұрын
Yet another idiotic decision by Wizards.
@sifuculreif6448
@sifuculreif6448 Ай бұрын
Why am I getting Red Line vibes instead of LEGO Racing vibes?
@pedropenna7480
@pedropenna7480 Ай бұрын
Pia wasnt the MOTHER of chandra, was she? Pia was a teacher, a mentor, wasnt she?
@hemellicht
@hemellicht Ай бұрын
alright, so 4 colour magic from now on? or do we make purple the replacement?
@TheDarkElder
@TheDarkElder Ай бұрын
return to Kaladesh! Time for me to also return to lore. Maybe. At least for this part😀
@chayadol
@chayadol Ай бұрын
Naming aside, I like how Avishkar see Ravnica like somes see cheap product from China, kinda funny lol
@EvertfromNederland
@EvertfromNederland Ай бұрын
The whole problem around the word "Kala" is made up. If you google 'Hindi to English translation' and type in the Hindu word 'Kaala' you will find this indeed means 'black'. Type in 'Kala' however and the word 'Art' comes up. It was never a problem. It's two completely different words that happen to sound the same.
@TheAmazingSpiderman87
@TheAmazingSpiderman87 Ай бұрын
Guess they'll be doing away with the faerie creature type in the future since it's phonetically identical to fairy which for the longest time was a derogatory term used for homosexuality.
@OMNIDC13
@OMNIDC13 Ай бұрын
No one tell them that magic has the color black. Its funny. Hire witch hunters and your going to find witches. I ain't gunna call it anything else but kaladesh. wizards wants to police me they can come to my house and try. 😂🐍🐓
@mega2009man
@mega2009man Ай бұрын
You can practically smell their desire to make this reality. Its like a self insert of everything they want 🙄
@snackplaylove
@snackplaylove Ай бұрын
As someone who lives in The Black Country (it’s in the U.K.) I hate the change as it’s like renaming my home. 😂 I understand it though, but we haven’t changed the name of Uranus yet even though that has the same problem. This is a great summary - I was worried that the change was like ‘partition’ but it’s almost the reverse- it’s like the people are getting rid of the name the oppressors gave them which works for me. And as the whole structure of the plane has changed too it really does parallel the occasions when real world countries reconfigured themselves.
@samdunn5846
@samdunn5846 Ай бұрын
Its not a big thing ig but it makes me feel glum
@Its-Lulu
@Its-Lulu Ай бұрын
More lore lets goooo
@jweezy15able
@jweezy15able Ай бұрын
The lore has gotten dumber and dumber since War of The Spark.
@joshg218
@joshg218 Ай бұрын
Kaladesh is "The ghetto" and magic doesn't want that perception...... lol
@austinbeale4372
@austinbeale4372 Ай бұрын
Literally no one was offended by this. Only those that were offended for humility points and to feel better than others. Trash, racist move.
@borisbadaxe9678
@borisbadaxe9678 Ай бұрын
What fo you expect from a company that made Aragorn black? 🤣
@BugManiacRoy
@BugManiacRoy Ай бұрын
Why not just call it Black-land?
@tylerrusnak7736
@tylerrusnak7736 Ай бұрын
It's still and always Kaladesh to me. This whole racism thing is going way too far!
@skunkybudtoker9092
@skunkybudtoker9092 Ай бұрын
I'm an Avishkar and its racist that they use my people's name in their evil luxury cardboard rectangle game.
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