How KR Challengers Use Tier 1 Olaf

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[@ToadStool125]

one thing that was missed is olaf ult cd is base 100, most toplaner ults are 120 seconds or higher (riven, darius, camille, tryndamere, wukong, garen etc) or 110 seconds like fiora so there's usually a 10-20 second gap which olaf can abuse if both ult at around the same time even moreso if olaf ults earlier or has cdr, the notable exception is jax whose ult is now also 100 seconds so watch out for that

[@KatherynneF]

This is why teemo is superior and definitely a viable and good champion

[@hauquoc6086]

And volibear ult has 160s cd, riot hate him for sure

[@BattleBossZeri]

​@@hauquoc6086 if he gets gank from his jg and win lane he can permanently solo dive under your tower with ult, it is still not nerfed enough

[@oznerolnavi3772]

🤓🤘

[@toad7395]

@@BattleBossZeri volibear is pretty balanced man he is 49-50% wr

[@monstergarou3848]

It’s actually so crazy that I randomly picked Olaf into Morde a week ago as a counter, and I’ve been spamming him since

[@benyosu843]

Nothing crazy, broken champ so that less skilled and intelectually disabled players can still win games that they should have lost

[@qwazzq]

@@altricad5358 there always underrated op champions, but nobody put them in tierlists and they stay in shadow till somebody start picking them in high elo and everyone will start copying it

[@jesseperez4185]

@@benyosu843 good to just run you kids tru in league is so satisfying. yall swear the champs you play takes skill stfu. only champs that are decent are riven,camile,qiyana,azir,lee sin, yas thats about it. go play tekken 7 or go get good at emlia in guilty gear cause that takes tremendous commitment to the character in terms of learning all the set ups and mix ups and combos and set plays. No champ in league really comes close. there are like no champs where you have to sit HOURS and hours in the training room learning stuff and practicing combos or set ups.

[@deeli3518]

@@jesseperez4185 play +r if you want a real skill game, strive is honestly not that difficult to get decent at

[@marcelovieira519]

​@@benyosu843 Olaf's been a counter to Mordekaiser since forever tbh

[@nikolay2442]

Wow this Olaf player is so clean! This video is also show us how u should play against Olaf. Ty!

[@DarkUltima999]

there are dark times comin for toplane

[@yez1062]

this answers all the questions i had about Olaf, except for how to use E. thanks for the guide!

[@xencois]

use E to cancel auto animation

[@joekenwood4956]

Also use at the end of trade if enemy is running away and you dont have Q as its higher range than auto

[@yez1062]

@@joekenwood4956 See that doesn't work if you E off cd

[@yez1062]

@@Victoriousjia Idk bro i didn't see that in the video... Have you seen the hp cost?

[@syned149]

@@yez1062 The HP cost is way lower than the damages. Plus it synergizes with your passive, so on CD is good 99% of the time.

[@syerek]

7:28 that kill was crazy

[@cagegames4755]

Tbh it was champ diff there.

[@linhuichi937]

Olaf bullshit

[@MrMrtvozornik]

@@cagegames4755 Sure, but don't take away the skill from Olaf player. 1. He was versing Kayle, which is notoriously bad early game champ. 2. Enemy melee jg gap closed into him. 3. If he didn't do all the auto resets properly he'd still lose that and not get the kill, most likely than not losing his whole lane over that instance.

[@xencois]

8:06 was clean too!

[@cagegames4755]

@@MrMrtvozornik Your first two points don't add anything. And he didn't do any auto resets he just all in.

[@sansnom686]

Hi Dobby. May i ask you a question because you didn’t talk about this in your video. For me, the best counter to Olaf is Phase rush since you can proc it with ability - AA - ability ( if Olaf lands a Q on my Garen and all-in ? AA - Q - E and i run out easily even if he ghost). So my point is : Should i max E with Phase Rush melee champion so i win the short trade or play the push, try to play with my jungler and roam a little bit ? Ty for answering me and keep up your video, they’re fantastic ! ❤

[@walkelftexasranger]

You always max Q on Olaf. If enemy has Phase Rush, then you bait them to use it and then all-in them afterwards. If they don't interact with you, then you just deny farm and XP/invade enemy Jungle/do your Olaf things.

[@sansnom686]

@@walkelftexasranger Yeah i put this message because i manage to destroy a lot of Olaf with my Garen Phase rush. Since he can't snowball my ass in the laning phase, i can do my garen thing when the mid game shows up. But what you're saying are legit so thanks for your comment.

[@davidp7765]

I don't play Olaf but I have played this matchup a lot from the Garen side using Phase Rush, and personally I think it is very Olaf favored even with PR. He has the range advantage with axes, cannot lose in melee range, and has enough sustain to avoid getting chipped too hard by fast PR trades. If Olaf isn't missing axes or diving recklessly, it frequently leads to the situation where Olaf is daring my jg to gank him on a massive wave and potentially get 2v1, or he shoves that wave into tower and takes control of top jg, eating all the camps and placing wards. Again, not an Olaf player, but from my experience on the receiving end, Olaf can still dominate lane vs PR champs and create huge pressure even if he can't outright kill them.

[@Blackfrog67]

@@davidp7765 Also Olaf has something garen will never have and it's the ability to reach the back lane, in low elos you will reach them cause people suck but once you get to diamond master tier, unless you have really good macro as Garen reaching the back lane is a nightmare. A fed Olaf with ghost flash is just always gonna destroy your adc first and without an adc mid game your not winning much team fights. And most of the time if the ennemy has to use everything on the Olaf to protect their adc the fight is already won for Olaf.

[@scrapzz2696]

​@@sansnom686garen in general is very good pick into olaf, with phase rush it becomes farm lane. Whoever is better in mid game will win.

[@titanofyoutube4834]

Hey dobby, I've been wondering how trundle top has been faring in Korea. I remember him being semi popular like half a season ago, I'm curious if Koran has any current strats with him

[@aderfex8101]

If you are not in high elo it probably would work just fine i think.

[@proxima-academy]

@@aderfex8101 It still is fine in high elo, but as a counter pick, not blind friendly

[@aufkeinsten7883]

@@altricad5358 He still feels really good in many matchups against champs which want to do the same thing as him - smashing skulls in. I feel like he mostly wins those. Dobby even listed him as a counter to olaf, which is arguably one of the strongest duelists in top lane right now. His weakness is imo that he just falls off harder in teamfights and struggles to catch up to ranged / mobile champs where Olaf and other fighters can still find angles at least sometimes.

[@llililillilliilli905]

Hello Dobby, are you still playing league yourself? You haven't streamed in quite a while - are you going to continue in the future? Would love to hear from you, cheers!

[@LoLDobby]

Yes, I'm still playing league ! Myabe I will stream in this year :) Thank you !

[@testtube173]

There is this certainty in the movement and mechanics of Korean players that you don't see in other regions at least not as often. Like there are tremendous players in other regions capable of incredible big brain plays but for some reason the Koreans seem to be the most refined in execution.

[@louispearson8306]

When key skill i started doing recently, is blowing flash to start autoing and keep my ult up. There are some situations where olaf can pull of the unimaginable by keeping his ult up.

[@SaSo-mk6yh]

Ah yes, auto attack champion with cc immunity that disables half of entire top lane's kit.

[@javagamings]

that one time i played olaf jungle, i went 0/5 and was alot of cs down so the most logical thing i did was to go down bot, found the better fed jungler and somehow 1v1'd him while literally button mashing LOL

[@wenhao2320]

There should be rank linked to the comments 😂

[@javagamings]

@@wenhao2320 blind pick

[@altide8784]

Ulting Olaf as Kayle is the most satisfying in League

[@Qopa]

Lol that lv1 zoning is such a disrespect. Imma abuse it when i get autofill top.

[@psp2goz]

Currently a Olaf/Nocturne mid and top 2 trick in high grandmasters. This video taught me some extra stuff thank you:D

[@VocalMabiMaple]

best counter to Olaf lmao. Getting carried away

[@jakiii368]

Walls

[@northmanmartin5186]

in 2015 i was trying jungler olaf and enemy jungler pick trundle with 1 attack speed item and shoes then he goes full tank.. i cant 1 v 1 trundle with my full item and his

[@xptboy]

Should we start Dblade even in ranged matchups rather than Dshield?

[@tranducquang5912]

apparently so since he did it vs Akshan jayce and Vayne which are 3 most common range top laner atm. Guess after the Dshield nerf on Olaf specifically its not worth it

[@teomanludiq4675]

Hi, can you please make a video for rengar top

[@essaroahh3299]

Fire

[@sobless4229]

i play the same playstyle but I use heimerdinger TOP :D

[@jesteredGesture]

almost reminds me of inting sion but slightly less int

[@YunaNo.1]

Even death's dance got nerfed, is it still deserved to have?

[@LoLDobby]

Yes

[@GymbuBen]

Interesting, I’ve seen most people opt for hydra jaksho instead of stride

[@Cezako]

Everything in Stride is perfect for olaf, except ur not so tank with the spike but who cares, it's solo q, just side, 1v2 and pick up, and team fight with 3 items

[@elminsteraumar9133]

I go depending wether we have a true frontline or not

[@tuckvison]

4:25 You're not slick there bud.

[@sjirko]

Is anyone even surprised? It's Olaf.

[@rick0856]

I love facing olaf with my garen, run ghost flash and phase rush is an easy game

[@megatron2.2]

build?

[@rick0856]

@@megatron2.2 goredrinker, lucidity boots, cleaver, gargoyle, chempunk chainsword

[@megatron2.2]

@@rick0856 phase rush and secondary based on comp or you run the green ones for life stacking i forgot their name 💀💀

[@SunKenRains]

I can't wait for Olaf to be nerfed so that people stop calling me am Olaf abuser for playing this champ for over 6 years ahahah. Champion needs some adjustments before he is balenced. I don't know if his winrate is due to his build path or not tho. Great video!

[@nemesis0309]

may I ask what champs do you ban when you play olaf?

[@SunKenRains]

@@nemesis0309 Been banning Fiora since season 8 and never changed since then. Champion is uber since her rework

[@clownworld360]

@@SunKenRains based

[@captainobvious1939]

Fiora doesn’t counter you if you go crit build lethal tempo, just sidelane due to the squishiness of the build.

[@prisonierriku397]

Fiora win every 1vs1 of the game if she IS good

[@yottanuclei]

I'm an alistar player and I can tell you right now. I will never not ban Olaf ever again. Not after last time...

[@aufkeinsten7883]

You're... A what now?

[@dante9656]

sorry bro that was me

[@quangminhnguyen517]

0:40 simple, stand still and auto enemies till they die

[@onurucar2995]

guy at 0:36 doesnt even try to dodge gwens q xD

[@Creamsoda27]

Olaf without summs is super minion

[@PinkeySuavo]

00:05 its one of the moments where i think "there's no way he's going to kill someone, at max he will maybe somehow run away" then he double kills and im like "what the fuck" but maybe thats because nidalee literally did like 4 auto attacks and thats all

[@beelyagami8064]

I have one question,is darius consider as one of the best 1v2 champion from early like olaf ?

[@night2wing970]

Yes especially when u have an early 5 stacks.

[@felixzhang1065]

First

[@DanielMartinez-np9pn]

solo gracias a este video llegue a diamante4 gracias

[@ghostwind9862]

2:06 kills KR Challenger Garen player (GARENK1NG)

[@PinkeySuavo]

6:00 I love this type of players. Like u are going to die, so just stand under the turret and get the kill. Some players just walk out of turret and let the enemies kill them without need to dive. I can't believe I see such stuff on diamond+ games.

[@PinkeySuavo]

2:00 was Olaf's flash really necessary?

[@edwintrujillo977]

I hope... video with Lillia I'm Lillia M7 [Lan xdd] . But i think, i'm so bad... so i wanna watch Korean or Chinese videos... and understand how to beat other champs like Fiora, Trynda or tank top

[@WolffQuam]

As an other main Lillia M7 who played mained her top, it's just hard. Like, everyone's saying this champ is "braindead, only run" etc, but it's so damn hard to play her good, cause it's basically pixel-perfect gameplay. People don't get how hard it is to really "run" well, cause it's not just running. Dodging all spells while still stay in range to touch your spells and outplay, cause if you get hit by something you're feeling it damn hard XD And some matchups are just really hard if it's not impossible to win (I mean, against a good player ofc). If we go from the point that you play against smart players, here's how I see some of the matchups you're talking about: - Fiora is like I was saying a pixel-perfect matchup. You do 1 mistake, you lost. She has good mobility, good sustain, huge damage, and can counter your ult with her W, she can just punish you really hard in any trade and you can't do much about it. It's not impossible, but near it honestly. But a bad Fiora, Lillia can destroy her (If you still play pixel-perfect). - Trynda hard too, but more easy than Fiora in my opinion. Your mobility is a huge advantage to trade him without being traded back, you basically eat him little by little till you he leaves or you kill him. And if he ults, you just ult him so it tempo his R. But care, cause if you don't respect him, you're still a squishy against a Tryndamere. - Olaf, it can be resumed in one thing: You get hit by his Q, you lose the fight. He has the sustain, the mobility, and the damage to gap-close and kill you while you can't really do anything about it, cause his ult hard counters you. But you dodge all his Q, then it's possible to out-trade him. But just like I said, pixel-perfect gameplay. - Mundo, you basically can't win any trade. Why? His passive counter's your ult, and you can't pop it with anything else on Lillia, so you will never be able to kill him. But the good news is, it's hard for him too to kill you. So just a freaking boring lane. - Malphite, you're doomed. Honestly, almost impossible matchup. Your only chance is to dodge his ult, but we all know it's more easy to say than to do. His Q counters your mobility, and your a squishy so if he hits his R, it's over for you. - Sion is pretty easy matchup in my opinion, cause your mobility is a pain in the ass for him. He can escape your R with his R, but if you move well, it's impossible for him to win a trade. - Irelia and Yone, same sh*t, you're fuck*d. From experience, if they are good, it's just impossible to win trades without help. You can just play as safe as you can and prey that they are dumb enough to try a tower dive while you have your R. But you're not gonna enjoy your game I can assure you. There's some matchup that I think about. And hear me out, I'm not a pro and don't know everything about the game, so maybe I can be wrong on some points. But I try to be as objective as possible, and talking from my own experience on the champ, so I still think I make good points. And if you want to know anything about any other matchup, tell me ^^

[@Vexiratus]

I was wondering why the attack speed rune over double adaptive

[@ToadStool125]

feels better early, allows for 3 auto attacks before q can be used again after being picked up in lvl 1 all in, with double adaptive it's 2 autos and then like 0.2 sec before q can be used and it feels clunky to not get the insta q, also the extra attack speed is nice for getting reset on ult if you don't opt into an attack speed mythic and instead go hydra into jak sho which is arguably a stronger build than stride into dd

[@bonfireofdreams1684]

@@ToadStool125 jaksho into Hydra is NOT a stronger build

[@enzohu405]

Until he meets Bausffs

[@archioify]

Olaf mainers pls explain, why stridebreaker? Goredrinker looks like more effective and better.

[@obelisk312]

Goredrinker stops your character in a place to do animation, stridebreaker allows you to continue walking while using it

[@walkelftexasranger]

Stridebreaker gives stats that Olaf really likes, has really good Active that allows Olaf to chase people and you can cancel animations with it. Goredrinker on the other hand is just garbage item. It doesn't heal that much, it lacks stats Olaf needs and Active is slow and clunky compared to Stridebreaker's active.

[@samurai2600]

It’s pretty much even between stride/Gore/Triforce. Each one for different comps. Triforce has insane snowball/splitpush power. Gore is great vs bruiser/tank comps so you can perma heal on them. Stride good for killing carries who have mobility. I honestly think stride is the worst option. It’s just that olaf still does well with any items so he can get away with it.

[@Yokah]

actually the better is hydra then jak'sho completely broken

[@memeaccount5898]

for the same reason you go ghost flash

[@dickurkel6910]

Olaf is actually just free LP, except you have to sell your soul to the devil for using such a pathetically easy character.

[@edgarjaimelazcano2200]

Can you believe I can't use that champ? I can never know when it's winnable and when it's not, I even find gp easier

[@lunacy5510]

@@edgarjaimelazcano2200 Yeah GP is also broken and not as hard as people say he is especially after his crit and barrel changes but did you just unironically compare Olaf's and GP's difficulties? 💀

[@oui2826]

​@@lunacy5510 🤣🤣🤣 I think azir is easier than garen

[@edgarjaimelazcano2200]

@@lunacy5510 ye, I just find Olaf that hard to play hahaha

[@danvulkhan3284]

@@edgarjaimelazcano2200gp is easy champ the only hard matchup is aatrox and kled

[@darwintondelotsovit4244]

5:41 my phone's volume is at maximum 💀

[@darwintondelotsovit4244]

6:23 so glad there's a Jayce matchup

[@darwintondelotsovit4244]

10:25 what in the world, that's too strong.. 2v1 under their turret

[@2000yearOldYogiAspirant]

I took Eve vs Olaf and won, was 3/0, ofc being top afker he shoves the lanes all the way to inib

[@Dentas137]

Why Conq? I Feel like lethal would be better to sustain back up with w shield and while low

[@melovil9199]

Conqueror is much better, you already get pretty high as from passive and w when low, but conqueror increases damage output drastically on autos q and E and q and e heal you too

[@walkelftexasranger]

Tempo is bait on Olaf. As guy above me already said - you already have high attack speed from Passive and W + Conqueror increases damage of Q and E.

[@samurai2600]

Lethal tempo is better. Conq is actually the trap.

[@supecheemzz]

He doesn't need AS that much. In early game ,you sometimes dont need to level up your W.

[@Dentas137]

Hmm idk I don't feel a difference when going conq personally but maybe I don't use E and Q as much as I should

[@liderasstro4118]

This feels weird af i play few games whit a champ it feels good or strong One or two days after people make video on him saying he is busted And it happened to me 5 times in two months

[@bifrostengaged1371]

2:30 dont be fooled. Jax is just bad. big mistake he made: walk back after the stun to olafs axe. That not only gave olaf the opportunity to chase with axe but also give jax 6x minion aggro. LoL Dobby also has a jax Video from chinese Hushen. I highly doubt he'd make this mistake in trading

[@woogee513]

hey dobby, tft content a possibility?

[@LoLDobby]

Maybe not :(

[@lakraki7916]

this champ is so toxic as a top laner, wish they made mana costs higher or something to force him into jungle

[@XenonAgenT01]

his mana costs are pretty high already. and he hard loses certain matchups

[@PinkeySuavo]

2:52 fiora refuses to fight olaf when his Q is on cooldown , she waits, then she fights him and dies when his Q is up. Wtf.

[@eiseuuuuu]

fiora is weak in level 1 against olaf, olaf is broken in level 1 with as + life steal + doran's blade + conq

[@PinkeySuavo]

@@eiseuuuuu I know, but she stopped fighting then randomly went in again just to die when his Q was up, if she wanted to engage at all she could do it immediately

[@bidi..]

If You pick Olaf, can You win against Darius and garen ?

[@elminsteraumar9133]

Garen its a 50 50- Darius stomps you if he knows what to do

[@freddie4682]

Crazy part is, this guy misses like 1% of his q's.

[@iluvx360]

I love how this basically just explains how to play the game.

[@kamilmcki8631]

olaf in masters is 54% winrate holy shit

[@walkelftexasranger]

Olaf is just pain in the ass to deal with on Top lane, since he's basically unkillable lane bully...

[@dankevan5675]

He is basically meta Warwick, you don’t fucking fight him until you outscale him My pick for this season is illaoi

[@Faierv12]

But look at 7:28 clean reset combo

[@jamesk2325]

finally a champion who isn't countered by irelia!

[@guiimmus]

hii

[@mele1bxb1]

Mele1ayu bab1

[@thedarkdragon1437]

no ty

[@lenardgarcia4514]

This will work with the others but not with Darius with W and ghost at level 1 hahaha

[@TheBrokenStaff]

? olaf beats darius level one no matter what ability darius starts as long as olaf hits axes

[@Kumotsune]

aaaaaaaaaaa q

[@deamont9746]

just RMB gameplay

[@sohaibchannel9911]

2:30 the Jax is trolling , u never begin a lvl 1 fight with E , especially against a champ who's lvl 1 is super strong, he should've kept AA and then when he's half HP he can E forcing Olaf's flash to which he can respond with his own flash and secure the kill or jus back off and win the trade while keepin flash , and idk why he went back for the AA after his E ran out , he should just back off , i don't think that there's any champ that can contest lvl 1 jax with Lethal tempo , if u have ignite it's even better ofc, but the Jax in this clip is simply not very knowledgeable of the champ he's playing or the one he's against

[@kaiy5475]

Playing olaf is a cardinal sin

[@hmm3943]

This champ feels like Tryndamere but even more racist

[@BattleBossZeri]

Me as a toperi killing Olaf lvl 1 without any trouble xD

[@xchorro]

not impressed by senseless autos lol

[@Soft__lemons]

DO NOT PROMOTE THIS PDF FILE CHAMPION

[@minh7320]

I know he is tier 1 and free LP. As I have versed a lot of Olaf in rank. Not much to say but I fuking hate them. People who abuse them are evn worse. Can't make myself to play this champ honestly

[@user-lm5mm1lp3e]

wtf is this plays on 6:40? Like you start a point about olaf 2vs1 and use very bad replay. Irelia misses her stun. Nidalee misses her both spears. This is clown fiesta. Any champion could 2vs1 in this situation.

[@Versace_sheets]

he literally walked up and baited the irelia stun, youre silver

[@ratsquad7441]

whats that purple shield gets

[@goy0551]

is olaf still strong even after the nerf this patch?

[@LogoSystemCG]

yes lol

[@mele1bxb1]

Mele1p1ggy

[@XenonAgenT01]

sucks this is getting brought to light because ive been using this for awhile.