How long does it take to charge a Ford Lightning 10-80%?

[@brandenflasch]

About 125kW average isn’t bad.

[@lsauve]

But given the pack size, that 50 min. charge time is a little long. Is anyone expecting that Ford will switch over to an 800V pack sometime?

[@brandenflasch]

@@lsauve it’s possible, but I wouldn’t count on it. If anything, I would’ve expected the F150 to charge better than Mach-E, but it’s marginally better.

[@sm308racing4]

@@lsauve Probably 2026 or 27 when they release the dedicated BEV truck platform.

[@Tron-Jockey]

Now days I typically drive less than 50 miles each day (like nearly every commuter on this planet), so I only need to replace about 12kWh of juice each evening. Replacing the 12kWh hours I use each day takes a little over 90 minutes on my home's Level 2 charger. But in reality I only need to charge once a week. Since (like every one else on this planet), I have nothing else I can be physically doing while I'm asleep I use the time to fully recharge my car every Sunday night. Takes less time out of my life than scheduling a trip to the gas station each week. With over 300 miles of range I've never needed to use a public charger.

[@rodneylw10]

Yes, I agree. EV seems a good option for commuting. My only concern is traveling and I tow an Airstream. So far, watching videos, it appears to be an overall 2 hours travel, 1.5 hours charge- of course depending on charger.

[@Kee-Von]

Okay, new to looking at the price of charging. So the price isn't bad, but relative to how much your time is worth it really is right? Is that how you feel because I would?

[@JasonMcGuire-d3o]

Yes, please let us know what a 150 KW charger requires in time. I just ordered a Lightening with 320 range and most of the chargers in my area are not above 150KW.

[@Liefpj]

Yeah thats too long. I really dread taking my Bolt on a road trip after waiting behind a ford lightning…we just never really had big evs until recently. 🙁 I usually drive Winnipeg to Minneapolis & Winnipeg to Vancouver.

[@iphoneslomo1772]

Yes, please do the 150KW charger for comparison. Also, can you remind viewers that most people most of the time will not be charing their vehicles this way (they'll charge at home)? As you can see by some of the comments, people have a hard time wrapping their head around the fact that they'll only need to charge like this on the occasional road trip. Most of the time you'll actually be saving time by not stopping at filling stations.

[@AllElectricFamily]

We will be doing the 150kW charger. We will also be comparing to the Rivian! We also have a video planned to talk about how this isn't typical charging, it is hard for people to understand that this isn't what you have to do every day.

[@iphoneslomo1772]

@@AllElectricFamily Awesome! Looking forward to it and all your future videos

[@robertpatterson3106]

@@AllElectricFamily first of you’re towing on a trip this is how you will be charging. I have not see a video of the mileage on a charge while towing, can only believe you won’t get what I have seen avg. of 2.4 miles to a kilowatt. Seem with a RV you be charging a lot and these stations aren’t design for a trailer

[@auntienonimous1688]

For a lot of people it is what they will have to do every day. According to census.gov 35.9% of people are not home owners. Add to this the amount of people who travel for business and you have a lot of people who will have to deal with the stress and waste of their free time to charge their ev. Time is money and time is irreplaceable.@@AllElectricFamily

[@vervictoremanuel]

How you spend less than 15$? here in Vegas I spent around 45$ to charge mine like that

[@budbundy5021]

That cost, will it be the same if you charge it from home? $12 isn't bad at all. I'm just curious how much someone's electric bill will go up. Still a cool video

[@arecibo1974]

Can you open the charge port door when your truck is locked? My Pro allows anyone to open it freely when locked. It should never open if is locked to avoid vandalism to your port. Another issue: it will not lock the charging plug, so anyone can just unplug your truck leaving you with no charge at all.

[@skyemalcolm]

There’s an option for a towing cooling package on the lightening and I’m assuming you guys have that, do you know? I ask because I believe it affects the truck’s ability to cool the battery while charging.

[@frankcoffey]

How many miles is that? Is there a way to determine how many miles of range you added?

[@AllElectricFamily]

Roughly 180 highway miles and 205 combined miles.

[@frankcoffey]

@@AllElectricFamily 4 miles per minute.

[@dandronemoan4041]

@@frankcoffey sure. You add 250 miles of range in 5 mins???

[@frankcoffey]

@@dandronemoan4041 oops no I was thinking hour not minutes

[@eamondillon2182]

So on a road trip you have to stop every 180 miles for about 50 minutes?

[@ecrot1]

Assume you have the max trailer tow package which is supposed to cool the battery when towing, but was hoping that it also was cooling the battery when charging which should increase the average charge rate. At least this is one of the reason I order my Lightning with the max trailer tow pkg. Any option about that? Thanks nice video.

[@mmctest]

Need to know how long it takes to charge and how far you can go on it. Also how long on different strength chargers including home charging.

[@auntienonimous1688]

Time is money and time cannot be replaced. Assuming that you only had to drive 5 minutes out of your way to reach the charging station and assuming that there was no one ahead of you, that adds the value of 1 hour of your time to the $12.29 to charge the vehicle. Assuming that your salary is sufficient to allow you to afford a vehicle like this, how much is an hour of your time worth? Sounds like an expensive fill up to me even if the charging was free.

[@robertscott2269]

Let's see the Rivian test soon!

[@stern12akachris32]

Do you guys have 2 electric Chargers at Home?

[@markhansen4258]

I saw another video saying a full charge on a 240 V 50 amp outlet at an RV park took 16 hours. Do you think that’s right? If so it’s a problem.

[@hobbes1069]

Probably pretty close. I did a napkin sketch calculation for 10%-80% (about 100kWh) would be right around 10 hours at 42 amps (max continuous current w/ a NEMA 14-50 plug).

[@hobbes1069]

Many camp sites don't allow EV charging. That's a bigger problem.

[@CharlesAnsman]

I noticed your window was down, if it was a hot or a cold day what would running the climate system add approx. to your charging time and cost ? Does the outside temp also effect charge time on the battery itself ?

[@jasondesjarlais5507]

I am guessing the power kept fluctuating as charging temperature would get higher in the truck. Lowered when it heats up, increases once it cools down. Could be wrong, but would make the most sense I think

[@KJC2025]

What is the max you can charge at home on 220-240v? What is the max circuit breaker size? 60, 80, 100?

[@AllElectricFamily]

We have a 40amp charger, but the Lightning can charge up to 80amps and that would be put on a 100amp breaker.

[@KJC2025]

@@AllElectricFamily thanks!

[@bl7385]

We have tried out a 150kW charger. It’s not much slower - it only seemed to not get that initial 10-minute burst up to 170kW/hr. Also, here are our recent charging times at an EA 350kW charger: 50 minutes to go from 29% to 90%. 40 minutes to go from 25% to 85%. 45 minutes to go from 12% to 81%.

[@AllElectricFamily]

That's what we assumed. Steve is going to test it, I think mostly because he loves doing these little tests! 😂 #evnerd

[@samusvi2693]

took me 3 minutes to fill my truck up the other day lol. that is a average total of well over a half hour saved. not sure where your time is not valuable my hourly rate is 60 an hour i saved 30 dollars plus

[@bobdude247]

Is it ok to run the accessories and heat/heated seat while it's charging?

[@AllElectricFamily]

Yes, it is!

[@bobdude247]

@@AllElectricFamily Thanks

[@andrewgee241]

Is the drop in charging speed after around 80 percent because of scientific reasons or are the charging stations throttling people to encourage them to leave?

[@killer2600]

It’s physics of the battery. Charge rate slows as the battery reaches full/100% SOC (state of charge). It’s important to respect this with lithium ion batteries because they can explode if over-charged.

[@HytelGrp]

Yes, run it on a 150 kW Station. You can check Tom M's channel (state of charge) if you want to compare your results with his.

[@amelierenoncule]

How can a person enjoy "the driving experience" in an EV, mes amis, when he is constantly worrying about the Battery-life ?

[@rick0842usmc1]

I’m curious to see how long it would take on the 150 charger

[@AllElectricFamily]

Coming soon!

[@brandenflasch]

A 10% to 16% jump is wild!

[@AllElectricFamily]

I was a bit confused.

[@brandenflasch]

@@AllElectricFamily a few % isn’t too uncommon, but 6% is a huge jump

[@277mitchell]

Well, I would have filled up my tank with gas, got some snacks, and went to the bathroom and still would have been back on the road with 40 minutes to spare out of the 50 you just spent charging your lightning! And if you pull a airstream with it, you will be lucky to get 100 mile range per charge. Anyway, good luck. Thanks, 4 the content.

[@goldgoraya]

😂😂 both have pro and cons. such as i have free charger at work, havnt paid for gas/electricity since i bought it.

[@277mitchell]

Not everyone has free charging available to them

[@aboutface102]

He paid $11. How much to fill your truck from 10-80%?

[@277mitchell]

If you have 2 weeks vacation, do you really want to spend half of it at a charging station????????????

[@aboutface102]

@@277mitchell If you keep your driving under 300 miles a day, you can just charge overnight. But yeah it’s not as quick as gas yet for sure. It will be

[@simplysori1004jy]

I am not sure if this is the charger or Ford for the charge time. Tesla vehicles charge at a much faster rate than this. 10% to 80% is usually less than 30 min on a 150kW charger and 15 min on a 250kW charger. This is enough time to grab a meal or go to the washroom.

[@irfanhusein1445]

Good information. Thank you

[@AllElectricFamily]

You're welcome! Glad you found it useful.

[@firesprk]

Would be interesting to see how Rivian compares. I’m waiting on Rivian.

[@AllElectricFamily]

Coming soon!

[@mjcamp01]

When the screen first showed 80% it will have been rounding up from 79.5, that'll be why it took slightly longer to reach the full 80% and close off

[@samusvi2693]

why not 100% oh i see it would take over an hour and a half to fill it up lol

[@clhbrickhouse]

These ev fanatics crack me up spend 60 hours a year charging their shit at these charging stations.

[@pa60pilot]

Ford needs to improve the charging rate for the Lightning. Our e-tron will hold 150 Kw all the way to 80%, before slowly tapering down...still holding 50Kw at 95%. Audi keeps a buffer in the battery pack to allow for higher charging rates, while preserving battery longevity.

[@wavehomeinspection]

I would think temp controlled regulation.

[@Canaz73]

Yup like my Mach E GT - Fords charging is slow! My Model 3 is so much faster for me when I am using both DCFC and home charging

[@frankplayz1462]

Are you still liking the Lightning?

[@andrerodriguez7603]

This will be a uphill battle with people going from gas cars to EV’s in our country. We need the charging infrastructure like Tesla has, and we might have a chance to succeed at a EV adoption from domestic car manufacturers. Tesla has been building up it’s charging infrastructure for over 10 years. I really doubt the US government will build and maintain enough charging systems for all the EVs that will be sold here in the next 5 years. I do believe Tesla has offered to let Ford to use it’s chargers under a pilot membership program. This could help make EV adoption happen. I hope.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

That’s an excellent rate of charge, especially when considering how big your battery is and the cost was reasonable for that much current! I do believe that it’s not a fair test until move every charger can put out this much power. I would love to see a retest at the most popular power output, if possible for a retest. Thank you so much for sharing your hard and accurate work.

[@brysonfry9612]

Make sure when you compare the rivian you take into consideration that 10-80% (70%) of the lightning 131 KW battery is slightly more than the rivian. So to do apples to apples, you would want to make sure that you deliver the same number of KWh to the rivian as you did to the lightning. My bet is the lightning chargers faster up to 80% than the rivian when the kWh of charge delivered is the same

[@brandenflasch]

Rivian is 135kWh battery.

[@brysonfry9612]

@@brandenflasch so then I had it backwards but same principle needs to be similar amount of charge to compare time

[@nrashadstudios9017]

They got these base model ford lighting marked up 30,000.000 for a 70,000.00 price here in south Florida smh

[@m5p944]

Jeez man. Why do you wanna go through all of this?

[@jamesrose7881]

I know you are using the 350KW Charger for the video but please push on your channel if hour vehicle charge rating isn't able to accept that high of charge, to not use or tie up these chargers. We are an EV Community and we need to act like it.

[@juveretrogames]

12 to charge ? Yeah my gas f150 takes 80-90 to charge full tank smh ima definitely look into trading

[@Team_Trade_Down]

Do a Rivian please

[@AllElectricFamily]

Got one up for you. Thanks

[@chrishaddad5362]

That’s pretty quick

[@ahucatitlan]

JAY LENO: MORE GAS FOR ME 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericroe]

One amazing thing is that California doesn’t charge tax on its EV charging. Especially a amazing since we tax everything else. As for the car not providing data (which sucks) it might be worth investing in an OBD dongle.

[@papasquat355]

You know it's coming. Washington State charges fuel (road) taxes on your annual ad valorem bill. California will not be far behind. They WILL tax charging once there is greater adaptation. Guaranteed.

[@ericroe]

@@papasquat355 California already charges tax for EV’s on registration. But I doubt they’ll add tax on the Electricity to EV’s.

[@papasquat355]

@@ericroe They will have to. The Feds too. Gas taxes are where road maintenance is paid from and the more EV's the less gas tax. It's coming without a doubt. They'll add surcharges to our home power bills too.

[@ericroe]

@@papasquat355 no they won’t. Stop the crazy talk. To me they need to charge all vehicles a flat road tax based on vehicle class on registration. Then lower the gas tax and use that as a carbon tax.

[@papasquat355]

@@ericroe Yeah. The government charging a tax for EV charging is crazy talk. I'm sure you're right. But, if you have no road tax, how do you maintain or repair the infrastructure? Anyway, I'm sure you're right and the government will just not tax us and reduce gas taxes because they are benevolent. (you had me at carbon tax).

[@rhare7353]

If you really wanted to tow your camper you should have saved your money and bought a Dodge or Gmc truck

[@mindmagic777]

Filled up my petrol combustion car from near empty to full in less than one minute. Now to enjoy the rest of my day.

[@kennyfordham6208]

Welcome to the future 😄!

[@AllElectricFamily]

Your car must have a really small tank.

[@craigm4722]

Most EV owners wake-up with their "tank" as full as they'd like and don't have to stop at all. If you enjoy stopping for gas, though, then keep your ICE car.

[@frankbasile3662]

@@craigm4722 Is stopping for gas really that of an inconvenience,..while I agree most EVs are fully charged at home,anytime you want to take a farther ride ,tow or operate in very cold weather it's abysmal the range loss and time to charge,..If they can get charging time to under 20 min full and keep towing and cold weather range less then a 50 percent loss then EVs will be adapted much more

[@papasquat355]

I am an EV supporter, but won't buy one for anything other than home charging until this 50 minute charge time for 50% charge is fixed. That sux.

[@GM-qh2ki]

What you’re trying to say is it’s not even close to Tesla on the battery technology!

[@ML-lg4ky]

Who has an hour to blow while refueling?? I don’t

[@jeffreyallen8084]

47 minutes?!!! They really need to have solar panel and self generated recharging. Won’t be considering an EV anytime soon. MIght try to convert over a hydrogen on demand unit which can be made fairly easily

[@AllElectricFamily]

Yes, 47 minutes sounds like a long time. But, we've discovered that on road trips with 3 kids that the car is usually ready to go before we are. We plan our stops around meals or errands we need to run for the trip and our time is used wisely and not wasted.

[@stevenspitzer8767]

I don't get it. Almost an hour to charge. Me and my ecoboost would have been filled and gone in less than 10 minutes.

[@marksantoro3334]

I will stick with my gas F-150 with extended range gas tank and fill up in 5 min instead of 50 min. Sure I may be paying more, but this guy just wasted 45 min of his life that he can't get back. Time has value too.

[@johncipolletti5611]

After you get the Lightning charged, you can tow a small trailer as far as 83 miles! Oh, you actually fell for that BS from Ford that gave the 150 a 350 mile range. Go see this on KZbin.

[@samusvi2693]

more time than most people care to waste time

[@AmericanSCPO]

Charging electric vehicles looks like sitting at the laundry matte without the washing machines and dryers. What a waste of time for so little return. Your 40 mins gets you what 190 to 250 miles, way less if you're towing. How many days would a 1,400 mile road trip take? Expensive inconvenience is what I call that.

[@jeffreyharris2334]

Can’t you charge to 100%

[@Jimbo898]

It will only take you 20 years of gas savings to come out ahead of the cost of the truck.

[@sinistersilverado965]

How do you like that coal powered pickup?

[@AllElectricFamily]

We love it, thanks!

[@ljfran2383]

Why does everyone who owns one of these look like they are from Austin or Boulder

[@AllElectricFamily]

Makes sense

[@streetsweeperz2891]

This is why I will not do electric.

[@cesarmalejos]

You wasted 45min of your life that you'll never ever get back on charging a truck 🤦

[@tomjohnson3976]

🤣🤣🤣46 Minutes. that real nice if you time is worth 0. what a joke😅

[@Dannyar10]

woof. 122kw at under 30% state of charge is brutal. The Rivian is significantly better in this regard. How long till you sell this POS and stick with the Rivian and buy another Tesla lol

[@FLAdamRX]

That’s really cheap for 93 kWh! Would’ve been around $40 at Tesla Supercharger

[@eliszuna2539]

Man stop driving while holding your video. People go to prison for this. Otherwise great insights on the electric cars