How long were Adam and Eve in Eden before they sinned?

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@creationministriesintl
@creationministriesintl 10 ай бұрын
See the full interview here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2OWkqNql7CGn5I The Fall most likely occurred only a few weeks after Creation Week, and possibly much sooner than that. This is a deduction from the fact the Eve was not pregnant until after the Fall. Adam and Eve were two healthy married people, who had been commanded while still in Eden to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:22). In a pre-Fall world without suffering and disease, there would have been no blocked fallopian tubes or other defects or deficiencies leading to infertility. It is highly unlikely that Eve would have gone through more than 1-2 fertility cycles at the most without conceiving. However, the first conception recorded is that of Cain, which was after the Fall. See also: → When did the fall occur? - creation.com/creation-perfect#mankinds-fall → Timing of the fall - creation.com/slipshod-logic-in-creation-for-kids#fall
@americaone749
@americaone749 10 ай бұрын
40 days , that's why Yeshua was in the wilderness 40 days fasting because He is atoning for Adam's transgression , that's why Israel was 40 years in the desert, Solomon and David ruled for 40 years, Jonah told Nineveh, "you have 40 days to repent ",I'm sure I'm forgetting something else.
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv 10 ай бұрын
I wasn't able to find the CMI link on it but I did look up apologetics press and their link and they also had a good explanation. It explains in detail about when Eve got pregnant. Now I get it. I didn't really know that was in the Bible so that's very interesting. Thank you
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou 10 ай бұрын
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 10 ай бұрын
that don't go very well with JS
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv 10 ай бұрын
​@@brunobastos5533what in the world is JS?
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 10 ай бұрын
@@SK-bw2cv Jesus
@IAMhassentyou
@IAMhassentyou 10 ай бұрын
@@brunobastos5533 the main focus of this YT channel is Christianity. It goes along quite well.
@HalfMoonHunter
@HalfMoonHunter 10 ай бұрын
​​@@IAMhassentyounot quite! Just posting random quotes from Bible that are not on the same subject with the video is not helping at all. On the contrary, you might make people searching for explanations to run away from God, because of our mistakes. Christianity doesn't mean chaos at all. These people at CM already know the Bible, but they still focus on specific subjects with researches on the matter. God bless us all!
@Hydroverse
@Hydroverse 10 ай бұрын
Still wish I could go back to see what Eden was like.
@lucabubici
@lucabubici 10 ай бұрын
We would be still under temptation. What God had planned through Jesus is a life without sin anymore. And this cannot be accomplished on this earth. The new Heaven and the new Earth will be more amazing than Eden
@Apollos2.2
@Apollos2.2 10 ай бұрын
​@@lucabubiciRight but wouldn't it have been cool to eat pure fruit, juice and perfect. And have communion with the LORD and the animals! But agree we will have much more than that in Heaven someday 🙏
@blackallday
@blackallday 3 ай бұрын
Easy, just imagine the world without a government 😂
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'd really like to know how he comes to that conclusion. Hopefully you'll be presenting the full length video on it. God bless.
@IamNuideas2001
@IamNuideas2001 10 ай бұрын
Sex within marriage is not a sin. God wanted them to multiply. I certainly would like to think that they made it through for longer than a weekend, but I'm not sure they were there long for the same reason given - They were expelled before the first child was born. It would have been a significant event that would have been notated when Moses wrote about it. Unless that child had eaten of the fruit also, the child would have remained in the garden unless or until he sinned by eating the fruit as well. There is nothing to say that it couldn't have been months, however, or that Adam and Eve were expelled while she was pregnant. But that idea presents its own questions and theological issues because the sin would have happened AFTER the child had been conceived. Not conceived in sin, the child would also have been sinless in this circumstance. But the initial point stands. It wouldn't have been long. Eve was fertile, but it doesn't mean she conceived immediately. But it wouldn't have taken long before she would have become pregnant, so I think his theory has merit.
@MatthewPeeters-l7i
@MatthewPeeters-l7i 10 ай бұрын
Well said. Here are some supporting Bible verses for what you have shared Matthew 19:4-6 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Here Jesus quotes Genesis, validating the God given foundation for the institution of marriage. Genesis 1:28 "God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” If sex within marriage as God decreed is a sin, then Adam and Eve could not carry out this command until they sinned. In other words, they would have had to disobey God in order to obey God.
@Ranger_Steve
@Ranger_Steve 6 ай бұрын
I know we can all interpret the days and years as something else, but I truly believe God would not want to mislead us in his word even though it is translation, he would want us to understand it as it reads. Days of creation are 24 hour days as it says "there was evening and morning" meaning a day. And when it comes to how long they were in the Garden, It says "Adam lived a total of 930 years" and also said he lived 130 years before having Seth (I think). And we know they started having children outside of the Garden when they were thrown out. So they were in the Garden no more than 130 years at most. I don't know how quick children grew in the womb back then and I don't know if that should be considered.
@jeanphilippe7
@jeanphilippe7 10 ай бұрын
The Fall took away the 'blindness' of Adam and Eve concerning the possibility to 'multiply'... They could have lived 'any'time before the Fall. I think the Angels in heaven were very impatient to sée Adam and Eve 'fall', so children could be born and they could come to earth to receive a body...because they were spiritual beings on their way to earth so to say.
@jeffreydavid6794
@jeffreydavid6794 10 ай бұрын
But how can we be sure? Is it really clear it happened before their first child? I don't think the Bible specifies that. It does not say specifically that Cain and Abel were their first children.
@dps6198
@dps6198 7 ай бұрын
Nobody really knows how long they were in the garden before they send
@paulthomas2337
@paulthomas2337 10 ай бұрын
I strongly disagree with your timing in the Garden of Eden. Adams job given to him by God was to name every single animal and creature. That included the dinosaurs too! HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE??
@MatthewPeeters-l7i
@MatthewPeeters-l7i 10 ай бұрын
All in a days work - creation.com/naming-the-animals-all-in-a-days-work-for-adam
@australianhuntanstuff
@australianhuntanstuff 10 ай бұрын
Unless they didn't know to have babies ..until they ate the apple
@AutumnVine101
@AutumnVine101 3 ай бұрын
But the command to have children and fill the earth was given before the fall. They were not supposed to be the only people.
@GreatBehoover
@GreatBehoover 10 ай бұрын
Please do not say falsehoods like this. Adam and Eve did not even know they were naked before they sinned. They weren't sitting there ready to have sex because before they sinned, there was no sexuality in their minds. To know you are naked is to understand it's implications. Please retract this!
@MatthewPeeters-l7i
@MatthewPeeters-l7i 10 ай бұрын
The Bible says "Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame." Genesis 2:25 In Genesis 1:28, "God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.” This command was given before the fall. Sex within the rules set by God (That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. Genesis 2:24) is not sinful. If it was, then it would be impossible for Adam and Eve to obey God and increase in number without first disobeying God.
@GreatBehoover
@GreatBehoover 10 ай бұрын
Excellent! You are correct! I never thought about the fact that God's decree to have children came before the fall, and that it restated that they should become as one flesh! Thank you. I am still unsure how they had sex if they couldn't see their nakedness, but that command to have children certainly makes it possible, onlf not probable logically. Well done! The WORD of God ALWAYS surpasses the opinions of any man! I am Behooved!👏👏👏
@davidhorton3020
@davidhorton3020 10 ай бұрын
How do you know Cain was the first child ?
@jamesr4464
@jamesr4464 3 ай бұрын
Didn't Adam live like 900 years? They could of been there for 100 years before getting the boot.
@davidlenegansafe
@davidlenegansafe 10 ай бұрын
33 years
@lulmul4698
@lulmul4698 8 ай бұрын
Same day they were born 6 day off creation
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 10 ай бұрын
what the objective to her to be fertile , if sex is a sin , why if giving reproductive organs if that wasn't the point
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv 10 ай бұрын
Sex was meant for procreation. It became corrupted by sin and people use it for sinful purposes.
@caitlinjohnny3828
@caitlinjohnny3828 9 ай бұрын
Sex isn't a sin when you're doing it within marriage with your spouse
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 9 ай бұрын
@@caitlinjohnny3828 and why should be on in the first place
@caitlinjohnny3828
@caitlinjohnny3828 9 ай бұрын
@@brunobastos5533 I didn't make the rules but GOD said when a man decides to sleep with a woman this is called marriage, then He also says marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman. He also talks about how what being an adulterer does to you and your soul in Proverbs in one of the first few chapters 🤷‍♂️ they're short so I'd suggest reading em so you can see what God says about it
@brunobastos5533
@brunobastos5533 9 ай бұрын
@@caitlinjohnny3828 lol so crazy to live by a book that lack any evidence
@BrianStanleyEsq
@BrianStanleyEsq 10 ай бұрын
But every good Young-Earth Creationist knows that SEX is SINFUL. Sinless folk don't sin. No sex, no child. Before the Fall humans didn't die or age. So it could have been thousands of years before the serpent had its fateful talk with Eve. (Do real people actually waste time on this nonsense?)
@ab_ab_c
@ab_ab_c 10 ай бұрын
There is no credible basis for his guess about how long they were in Eden. The truth is that they didn't even know that they were naked, until after they sinned. This could just as easily mean that they weren't yet interested in sex.
@His-Story.ForHisGlory
@His-Story.ForHisGlory 10 ай бұрын
But God told them to be fruitful and multiply...
@SK-bw2cv
@SK-bw2cv 10 ай бұрын
​@@His-Story.ForHisGloryyeah I just looked it up too. It actually is in the bible.
@b0b5m1th
@b0b5m1th 10 ай бұрын
​@@His-Story.ForHisGloryclearly he meant "farm the land, and perform some rudimentary mathematical equations" /s
@unejam6204
@unejam6204 10 ай бұрын
@@His-Story.ForHisGlory but that is in Gen 1 and is clearly meant for all animals and plants and in principle also for man. But Eve was not there yet. She came in Gen 2 and the multiple thing was not an issue yet. The concept of naked also not. Nor the pain of delivery was there yet. Those came after the fall. So we don’t know how long and his argument is wishful thinking at best. Long or short it was a foreign concept at that time since they were living in eternal life experience. However if u think of the flow of events it should not have been very long I think.
@His-Story.ForHisGlory
@His-Story.ForHisGlory 10 ай бұрын
@@unejam6204 No she came in Gen 1. Genesis 2 is in detail of the creation of mankind. God told them before the fall to be fruitful and multiply. Go read it yourself. Adam couldn't multiply by himself lol
@marco87226
@marco87226 10 ай бұрын
Blessed Anne Katharine Emmerich sad they were 1 day in eden before they sined
@brentkindle6058
@brentkindle6058 10 ай бұрын
Don't think this is right right nor does it matter.
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