How many R sounds are there? [Long Short]

[@kakahass8845]

In my dialect of Brazilian Portuguese /h/ is an "R" sound.

[@caseygreyson4178]

Não. /slashes/ represent the way that sound is pronounced in the language. [brackets] represent the actual sound being said. So, /r/ = [h] in some dialects of Portuguese. But /h/ in Brazilian Portuguese is [#], because the letter H is silent. I hope this makes sense. Desculpe!

[@kakahass8845]

@@caseygreyson4178Well no the IPA isn't supposed to conform to writing nevertheless I used /h/ because even within the /h/ phoneme there are multiple realizations like [h], [x], [ʁ], [ɦ] sometimes even [r] hell sometimes when I emphasize /h/ it becomes [χ] also /r/ is already used for the tap [ɾ] so for /r/ to be /h/ you would need to analyze it as a geminate /rr/ that isn't actually a geminate.

[@sus-kupp]

@@caseygreyson4178 No, /ˈslæ.ʃəs ɑr fɔr fə.ˈni.mɪk træn.ˈskrɪp.ʃən/ (slashes are for phonetic transcription) [ẽ͡ə̃nd skweɹ̠ ˈbɹ̠ʷæ.kɪʔs ɹ̠̩ fɹ̠̩ fn̩.ˈnɛ.ɾɪʔk t͡s̠ɹ̠ʷẽ͡ə̃n.ˈskɹ̠ʷɪp.ʃn̩] (and square brackets are for phonetic transcription)

[@geminilove3694]

you're from rio right?

[@kakahass8845]

@@geminilove3694Nope I was born in Minas Gerais spent a good chunk of my childhood in Brasília and nowadays I live in São Luís combining that with the fact my dialect does some really weird things (Like turning the denti-alveolars into alveolars, pronouncing /kʷ/ and /ɡʷ/ as [kʷ] and [ɡʷ] instead of [kw] and [gw] and pronouncing /tr/ as [t͡ɾ̥] AKA voiceless alveolar tapped affricate) I would say my dialect is close to or completely unique to me

[@a_worldly_man]

all of a sudden it makes way more sense to me why the tok pisin word for "water" is "wara"

[@fariesz6786]

a rhotic is only a rhotic if you don't look at it. and the "water" example is even funnier in an Aussie dialect (provided it's followed by a consonant.. or maybe in pausa, but i noticed Aussies tend to use a preemptive linking R)

[@falnica]

I'm Mexican and my english improved a lot when I realized that words like "better" and "computer" had to be pronounced with "r" instead of "t"

[@tincan357]

fun fact: in brazillian portuguese [h] and [x] are rhotics, the reason for this is that the original was [ʁ] became [χ] which later on turned into [x] and [h]

[@cellnahwl6711]

The R in Spanish is the same in Arabic ر. In the Lebanese accent of French, people use ر instead of غ

[@ted9030]

I think ر is stronger than the spanish r, slightly different

[@cellnahwl6711]

@ted9030 you're right, it is. But what I meant is that it's the same sound

[@m.xxx.35]

It depends the light ر like when it's with kesra is the same, but the ر with damma and fatha the not😅

[@matt9999]

0:41 it actually picked up "aro" what are the chances 😭

[@music-master]

Exactly!

[@brauljo]

It picked up "Aro" for "aro" and "Otto" for "auto"

[@dianaestrada1584]

it said Otto for me

[@iesusdesus5704]

his A vowel sounded closer to front /a/ than a back /ɑ/ so it sounded more like "Ato" instead of "AUto"

[@thesecret180]

Mine said auto lol

[@rashiakolkar9492]

Keep doing more bro thta was nice to hear

[@Designed1]

in Mandarin Chinese, r can sometimes sound closer to [ʐ] than [ɻ]

[@elkastico7727]

Those are two possible pronunciations.

[@dumbbol4657]

in Vietnamese is [ɹ~z~r~ɣ~j] ([z] for is only in the Northern dialect, the rest is Southern)

[@estroncio64]

Americans, you can roll your R's you just don't know it

[@nekhumonta]

The American R sounds similar to Holland's R

[@futurestoryteller]

*know how.

[@johnlanes5425]

One thing that contributes to it is origin and writing system. The use of the Latin character Rr long evolved in its descendants in terms of phonology as other languages who borrowed the writing system did as well as those who romanize their spoken languages. The French R used to be much similar to the Spanish and Italian /r/, and we can see a remnant of that in one of its dialects. It just so happened to be similar to the Arabic phone because it evolved that way but the spelling pretty much remained an Rr. Eurocentrism? Probably?

[@nzeu725]

i'm canadian french and when learning english, it's a common struggle to differenciate the english r and w, now it's second nature of course

[@alextemplemusic]

The French/Arabic example reminds me of a North African reed instrument whose name I've seen spelled both "rhaita" and "ghaita."

[@owenwilliams8698]

In Gaelic we have the distinction between a broad and slender r

[@David280GG]

You mean trill and flap

[@owenwilliams8698]

@@David280GG No, the distinction is between ɾˠ and ɾʲ . “Fíor” vs “fir”

[@YwY-ct5yq]

My the YT automatic translation asctually says "ARO" sooo

[@humanteneleven]

Welp it worked for TikTok at least 😅

[@brahmbandyopadhyay]

For everyone it's like that in yt lol

[@elkastico7727]

The flapped t / d occurs in unstressed syllables between vowels or the r sound

[@davidnelli2935]

The japanese "r" sounds, らりるれろ (ra ri ru re ro), are pronounced quite similarly to the "tt" in "butter"

[@adriellightvale8140]

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo?

[@LaTortuePGM]

yup, both are alveolar taps. although, japanese alveolar taps can also be lateral.

[@oop1761]

​​@@adriellightvale8140📦 ❗️

[@turquoiseninju7]

Same thing in my native language Malayalam (though there are two r sounds, one of them is like that)..

[@diamondore4830]

well, i don't really know, but i think indonesian language only has one R sound, wich is like R, or tarqiq ر in arabic

[@theweirdwolf1877]

An interesting thing about the rhotic /ɽ/ (and its aspirated form) is that in devanagari, they are represented by adding a dot below the letter for d (and of course, the letter for its aspirated form), which implies that they must be linked somehow. Now, the two sounds don't sound related at all for an English speaker, but the thing is, the d sound in most Indian languages is a retroflex d (ɖ). If you look at the tongue positioning for the two sounds, /ɽ/ is basically /ɖ/, but with the tongue very slightly further back and not touching the roof of your mouth. Thus, if you ask a Hindi (or any other language having these sounds) speaker, that person would say that the sounds /ɽ/ and /ɽʱ/ are much closer to d and dh (ɖ and ɖʱ), than to any form of an r sound.

[@angelhurtado55]

in other words, rhotic is where linguists decided to cal it a night because they had a life to which return and lumped r sounds amd all others they hadn't well defined yet in that bag

[@FranciscoCastelluccio]

The auto - aro example you gave sounds a little off to me as an Spanish speaking, but I definitely agree with the premise, there are many cases where the English d sounds like an r to me.

[@kingcloudman]

The captions actually picked it up as aro 💀

[@auag7208]

I'm a native spanish speaker and I picked it up as auto ☠️

[@elkastico7727]

Unvoiced uvular fricative can also be considered as an R sound for instance

[@GiacinthaBethany25]

Nice

[@Solotocius]

I just straight up scrapped rhotics from my conlangs phonetic inventory because of how complicated they are.

[@OksanaTverdokhlebova]

0:08 The N E V E R Symbol 💀💀💀

[@Shilandu0708]

In the Sichuan dialect the letter r is pronounced as z in English

[@nameplayer1571]

German R goes hard because it isn't soft.

[@lpsprincess14]

P is r in Russian :)

[@lunamig1006]

It's strange when I read something in Russian (I'm learning Russian) And the letters " п ", " р " and " г " Appears next to each other, I always end up reading it wrong lol

[@indonesianbassbooster5167]

Ahaha, I know what you did there 😂

[@David280GG]

Дееэ нутс

[@indonesianbassbooster5167]

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[@a-z6806]

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[@josephjointroller7684]

The captions said “aro” when you said aro and “otto” when you said auto lol

[@stupiditiusmaximus]

*Sign Language enters the chat*

[@qwertyTRiG]

Which sign language? There are many.

[@stupiditiusmaximus]

@@qwertyTRiG All of them, *r* eally.

[@hemjava]

Every sound is a rhotic in my opinion

[@parasatc8183]

Can [d] be rhotic? [d] and [ɾ] in Tagalog were allophones in the Philippines' pre-Hispanic period. In the affixation of native Tagalog words, [d] becomes [ɾ] between vowels (dami -> marami, dinig -> dinggin -> diringgin, doon -> paroroonan, hangad -> hangarin, hatid -> hinatiran, talikod -> talikuran, sunod -> sunurin).

[@ambergris5705]

There are actually two "r"s in French! Well, actually, only one, but some people pronounce it differently. Usually, it's produced at the top of the palate, but it can also be produced at the attachment of the tongue to the throat. The best example of that? Go listen to Édith Piaf, especially "La foule" or of course "Je ne regrette rien"

[@futurestoryteller]

I find it really funny when people think learning about things is supposed to make them *more* straightforward and simpler to comprehend. In reality education is more like giving you the tools neccessary to understand when your confusion is justified, and when you just need to do some more reasearch.

[@takahashi2852]

Arabs pronouncing the French R: UNLIMITED POWER

[@ContextlessMonarchist]

Ah yes, warer.

[@tonydai782]

Well, it ain’t pronounced like the English ‘r’, so that spelling would never work in English. And the ending ‘er’ is also not the same in Spanish either, so it wouldn’t be pronounced ‘water’ in either language.

[@axeldaar9100]

YT translated your "warer" as "confused"😂

[@TheDeceasedGod]

I would say it was more of a “d” sound Wad-er

[@elkastico7727]

​@@TheDeceasedGodIt's neither, it's the alveolar flap

[@jackthehacker05]

@@elkastico7727I’ve only ever heard it as a d sound. This is coming from a British English speaker mind you so do take it with a pinch of salt

[@athifaslam192]

I don't know❌ Arono✅

[@junovzla]

In some varieties of English [ʋ] is a rhotic

[@erikasdarodalykus]

Single click lithuanian R, the rarest rhotic

[@Carlos-Perez]

Oh great, quantum Rs.

[@pedromenchik1961]

Brazilian Portuguese has like 5 different “r” sounds

[@Andre-ps8xp]

O R português virou um "X" em Portugal continua preservando R forte francês

[@DanielKolbin]

moment

[@mihamhassan6206]

In Bengali Sanskrit Da and Dha becomes simple Ra .... and for some reason in Bengali Arabic Da becomes Ja

[@BoopDaSnake]

I live in New England so I pronounce a lot of t’s like d’s. So I would pronounce water as wah-dur.

[@AxtroGG]

The same applies with Urdu and Hindi. In Urdu, the letter ڑ is thought to be a retroflex 'R' sound, but in hindi; the same sound is written in the letter ड़ which is thought to be a retroflex sound of the retroflex D letter, which is ड

[@Tr1t1um417]

What about the hard one?

[@omarchowdhury1931]

Captions for me actually said aro

[@tricolorcircle]

In Mandarin Chinese, /ʐ/ is a rhotic

[@Pikflowerdude]

Even after many years of speaking English, my English R sounds often like a W, but I mastered the German, French and (EU) Portuguese R quite fast Make it make sense

[@xitvono]

I don't consider auto and aro to have the same sound. I think the t in auto is more of a d sound.

[@mynameisbakr]

0:46 it says aro 😂

[@ccheyenne]

Ok as a bilingual English and Spanish speaker who moved to Spain from the US at age 11 and has spent my entire life wondering why the R in Spanish is very clearly and obviously a D, you just blew my mind. Thank you so much for finally giving me the answer

[@almightyswizz]

No I suppose in English the rhotic sound in “water” is made by the T rather than the R..

[@EnderGoku9001]

it said otto lmao

[@JasonCan-wp2fu]

What about the hard R

[@Ejemplo-lz8ql]

💀💀💀

[@Ejemplo-lz8ql]

That makes an N sound

[@erinsgeography3619]

If the "t" in "water" is pronounced as [ɾ] Why is it pronounced as [t] in "watermelon" then? what happens there? is there a different concept?

[@cherylchui4510]

It says Aro now 0:48

[@cherylchui4510]

Or maybe my captions are in British english

[@nuzayerov]

and then there's Bangla with 4 Rs ( র - r, ড় - R, ঢ় - Rh, ঋ - rri)

[@ZIMOU2014]

shit am i arabic or french because i swear i said rul started with r but my native language is arabic

[@ilghiz]

Rhotic is a manner of articulation. If your tongue or "tonglet" (that thing in the back of the mouth, I don't remember the name) vibrates, then it's rhotic, a single flap also counts. True rhotic are Spanish ere, erre, Arabic ra, r in any Slavic language, Italian and Romanian r, Greek r. English has no rhotic consonants. The closests is the American flap. It is rhotic. Linking r is kinda rhotic. American r in nurse is an approximant, not rhotic. Room is not rhotic. It's an approximant. French r is sometimes rhotic, sometimes not depending on the dialect and/or position of the letter r. When it's like arabic ghain, it's not rhotic. But when it's like in Mireille Mathieu's songs, it's rhotic, far from the Arabic fricative ghayn.

[@cubing7276]

then explain how in Brazilian Portuguese the rhotics are [x] and [h]

[@ilghiz]

@@cubing7276 , they are not rhotic at all. Both are voiceless fricatives by manner of articulation. Rhoticity is not defined by the letter but by the way you pronounce the actual sound. Rhotic r developed into fricative x and h in Portuguese. First the rhoticity must have shifted from the tip of the tongue (the tip of the tongue still the case in Spanish, Italian and Romanian for example) to the "tonglet" at the back of the mouth. Then that rhotic lost its rhoticity (doesn't flap any more) and modern Brazilians use fricative x and h instead. The Portuguese in Europe still use the back-of-mouth rhotic r although might shift to a fricative as well. Rhoticity is characterized by a single or multiple flaps. Using the term "a rhotic accent" for American English is somewhat misleading. There's no rhoticity in car, far, nurse. The tongue is still, just slightly curves backwards (and is not curved in British English). But the term stuck. Both British and Anerican English can be rhotic when r comes between vowels: carry, sorry, barista. R is pronounced with a flap (then it's rhotic) or the tongue just curves (glides) back without a flap (then it's non rhotic). Word-initial r is also rather a glide in both English variants than a flap: room. French r can be rhotic or fricative. Mireille Mathieu's r is back-of-mouth rhotic. But most modern French tend to pronounce a voiced fricative instead, like the Arabic ghayn or a voiced version of ch of Loch Ness. "Rhotic" is often used to describe sounds that used to be actually rhotic but then lost the flappy articulation only remaining in writing like in American English and Brazilian Portuguese. I'd add German here too: für - the r here isn't rhotic, the "tonglet" rather glides than flaps. IPA uses various symbols based on R and r to represent rhotic sounds. As far as I know, they represent actual rhotics and some modern sounds that developed from rhotic consonants but lost their rhoticity, like r in car and für. So "rhotic" can refer to true rhotic consonants (single or multiple flaps of the tip of the tongue or the "tonglet"), to glides (of the tongue tip or the tonglet) and traditionally (but erroneously) to fricative vowels that developed from true rhotic consonants

[@EnergeiaRhythmos]

What about ڑ in urdu

[@wolfrinorich6993]

French and english are wrong the use a non rhotic sound for “R” or use a rhotic sound for a non rhotic consonant

[@Uchqunbekuz]

French r is not r it is totally different sound.

[@adanactnomew7085]

Is "auto" not pronounced like "audo" in American English?

[@hanin70]

It's pronounced differently, some people say "auto" while some say "audo" but most people like a huge amount say "audo" so 99% you'll hear "audo"

[@adanactnomew7085]

@@hanin70 no, I mean that people say the t or d, not an R

[@hanin70]

@@adanactnomew7085 I never said anything about r

[@adanactnomew7085]

@@hanin70 exactly, I'm talking about the video

[@hanin70]

@@adanactnomew7085 thats what I'm saying, to answer your questions they can be pronounced like both, yk?

[@myspleenisbursting4825]

/r/ in consistently /ɣ/ across Malay dialects.