How Marine Pilots Fly The $84 Million Osprey | Boot Camp

[@TesGon]

Few years back when I was still working on airfield as a cargo agent I had a great opportunity to visit one of the Ospreys that were visiting our civil airport at a time. Let me tell you , once I told pilot that I really like this "Beast" he was so happy to show me around all the little details it had inside and outside.. .it was very uplifting. One of the best memories I have from working in airfield.

[@powerbad696]

I had a chance to ride on one in Iraq,but,said no dice,that thing was SHAKING itself apart before take-off.Then add to the fact those puppies were crashing a lot in Iraq. And not due to enemy attacks.

[@serene_actual]

Ask any Marine and they'll tell you that the Osprey is trash.

[@Xuehuapiaopiao00]

All my gta online homies have the avenger already.

[@Bigcaesar410]

Fully loaded too. Cannons, weapons workshop, Vehicle Workshop. Collateral damage opponents don't stand a chance💪

[@singahsung712]

Hydra

[@ToneTraveler]

Join up, learn how to fly a real one.

[@ClimberinChrist]

Go outside

[@restrukted]

Will be getting one soon!

[@kaptainkaos1202]

I’m a flight test engineer, electrical, for the MV-22. Really amazing aircraft.

[@johnnydoe9969]

What’s ur annual income ?

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@johnnydoe9969 I am a senior federal government civil servant. Our pay is public knowledge and is easily found on the internet.

[@Legend-lc9bv]

@@kaptainkaos1202 are the hiring?

[@Legend-lc9bv]

@@kaptainkaos1202 how does one get a job like this? Certainly not on indeed

[@crewchief5144]

@@kaptainkaos1202 I did work with L3 before Harris and out of all companies we worked for, Boeing was the absolute worst. Every ODA and government TEs we worked with corroborated that. Bell was fine but the ones that had to do the joint work with Boeing on this had nothing good to say either.

[@Themoneymigo]

Rest In Peace to the marines that died yesterday flying one of these.

[@WPaKFamily]

Happened in Norway before that too

[@busybody1474]

.. you mean rest in pieces, learn to build reliable aircraft

[@Themoneymigo]

@@busybody1474 I almost typed that

[@drifter4training]

heard it had a few mishaps in Asia bases..

[@jcc9925]

Steve Sax's son was killed in the Southern California accident. But he died loving what he always wanted to do. RIP

[@n1msu]

I think we should pay tribute to the pilots who have died in accidents using this completely novel airframe and who have contributed to its current high safety stats. They made the mistakes so the pilots in these videos wouldn't have the chance to. I just think a bit more recognition of the pioneers who lost their lives flying this plane/heli in the earlier years should be acknowledged more.

[@npalmi88]

Like the 4 last week in Norway, yeah “current high safety”

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

Another one down. Theyre death traps

[@fresatx]

This is a terrible aircraft. A hangar queen. These have sold to only ONE other country (Japan.. And but a few) If its so great why won't our allies buy them? They buy Javelins, Stingers and F-35s...not this turkey.

[@somethinganything4864]

I don’t know a single person in service that calls this death trap “safe”

[@Ukraineaissance2014]

@@somethinganything4864 i heard british marines thought they were going to have to use them in norway and there was a bit of a rebellion

[@troyclayton]

I got to see a couple of these fly overhead at low altitude in New Castle, NH a couple years ago. I heard them and ran outside. I got a great view of them going over the water, it was quite impressive. I'd never seen anything like them and had to look up what they were. They must have flown out of Pease.

[@josuemejia4734]

Add me on snap chat I’ll show snaps of them all day 😭

[@fuhrfhrei3441]

We see them a lot in San Diego

[@declanmckeown323]

whats the deal with pease these days, didnt it shut down or something

[@troyclayton]

@@declanmckeown323 It's just Air National Guard now. Some commercial flights use the runways as well. The ground was contaminated with PFAS from fire fighting foam used in Air Force drills and millions have been spent on the cleanup.

[@zmars5798]

Nothing like a sighting of american air dropped genocide. Ah yes, the sound of war crimes, so patriotic.

[@loopshackr]

Marine Ospreys do landing exercises at the Ocracoke Island helipad, on the Outer Banks about 90 miles ENE of New River. The sound of these aircraft is quite distinctive, and loud, but the tourists are entertained.

[@jayski9410]

I know that sound well. Here in L.A. whenever the president comes to town, three Ospreys shadow the Marine One helicopters from LAX to where ever the event is that he is attending. They are significantly louder but at a lower frequency. You'll never sneak up on anyone in one of these. But I think the shadowing is part of the evaluation process to see if they can eventually replace the aging helicopters.

[@crewchief5144]

@@jayski9410 Not in helicopter mode, no, but when we come into a zone in airplane mode it's pretty surprising. 60 seconds later, after a quick 180, we're on deck. It's pretty fast.

[@matrinezkevin11492]

@@crewchief5144 yeah these things are far quieter in fixed wing mode than in VTOL.

[@kevin3434343434]

I was out on the beach on the other side of the dunes at the truck access one day when a squad of these kept doing vertical touch and goes. They are huge and very loud. Kinda freaked me out as well knowing their history. I felt I wasn't far enough away if one of them malfunctioned.

[@isaiahsturgill550]

I live in Lejeune they keep the residents entertained.

[@LK-bz9sk]

The pilot did a great job talking the audience through the aircraft.

[@deveryhenderson8335]

he seems passionate.

[@Alorio-Gori]

True!

[@Nygge1982]

He didn't crash on camera, or they had a few extra ospreys just for this video!

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

VMM-261! Hell yeah! I was at that base (MCAS New River) when they transitioned from the CH-46 Sea Knight in 2008. We [MAG-26] were the first to adopt and fully transition to the MV-22 and retire our CH-46's and CH-53's. I got to New River 2007 when the transitions were just starting, and it was awe inspiring to watch these things fly. Watching the AH-1W SuperCobras and UH-1N Iroquois (which have since been upgraded to the AH-1Z Viper and UH-1Y Venom, which you can see a Viper at 10:06 with the 4 bladed rotor) from MAG-29 was a bonus. A big thank you to Business Insider for making this.

[@wilsontc123]

The angle looking out of the back was insane. I flew in the back of these many times. We had to much gear to strap in, and it felt like you could fall out of the open rear of the aircraft but gotta love gravity being the only thing keeping you and 20 other guys from flying out of the back!

[@praetorianstride5948]

Ah gravity. It keeps us together.

[@AdjutorMusic]

One of the coolest vehicles period

[@MKZ3003]

*no no he’s got a point*

[@Paladin.Brandis]

VERTIBIRD.

[@robinl4975]

The Osprey is an amazing piece of engineering! The way it flies as both a helicopter and a turboprop, as well as the fact it can fold itself to be so compact!

[@norkris8729]

with 28 or 29 accidents since it was made in 1990... yeee amazin

[@flundyyy]

Sadly it's also one of the most dangerous 😕

[@user-dm2bq7wk7y]

Worst aircraft ever

[@Nygge1982]

Amazing until it crash.

[@dj007twk]

Bad design. No balance. Cool story tho.

[@AirRyanTX]

In addition to the Naval Academy, another great route for future Marine aviators to consider is the Platoon Leader's Course, or PLC. It used to require a minimum of 60 college credit hours but you can apply when you are a college freshman. Two six-week courses in between academic years, or one 10 week course. If you pass that, when you finish college you get your commission. Used to be one of the very few ways to guarantee a slot to flight school, as well.

[@mad5479]

My little brother is currently a Cpl in the US Marines. Stationed in Mira Mar and is the crew chief on the Osprey🇺🇲.

[@tejasshetty4400]

I probably think that it would be better not to reveal your brothers posting. It may be used to target him and your family.

[@estebanvargas1683]

I am puerto ricen and thanks for your service and help during hurricane Maria

[@acollierr17]

I've been _super_ close to Ospreys landing in a "confined-area landing" zone. There's no better feeling when an Osprey coming in to land blows your whole cami netting situation off and sends it flying 10 feet away or so from your vic. Fortunately, ground ATC took note of this and made sure it didn't happen again. I still laugh at it to this day.

[@ceasar9456]

You how many of these I've seen go down by it self they need revamp it

[@acollierr17]

@@ceasar9456 I've heard they've gotten better over the years? Is that true? I have a buddy from boot camp who's a mechanic in the air wing, but haven't gotten the chance to ask him

[@ceasar9456]

@@acollierr17 they brake so much I asked the marines that land on our aircraft about them they said somethings always broken on it but they fly any way

[@ceasar9456]

@@acollierr17 i was in the navy n would see them land every 2-3 months while on deployment

[@acollierr17]

@@ceasar9456 Like this video said, they probably triage a lot of the defects with the aircraft. So if it flies and it can "safely" transport weapons, gear and bodies, then that's all that matters. Regardless if it's a cosmetic issue or not

[@spaceghost8327]

I loved flying in these! When you’re high in the sky and the rotors go from vertical to horizontal you can feel the aircraft lose altitude very quickly 😂

[@botheringsnape]

It doesn’t lose any altitude, we’re usually still in a climb during transition ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@oceanblue3050]

Lol

[@midgetman4206]

@@botheringsnape So then the feeling of acceleration is what it is, right?

[@botheringsnape]

@@midgetman4206 yep! plus the pilots pull the nose up several degrees because the osprey rides nose high in airplane mode - letting the back pressure out from that pull can make everyone light on their seats for a moment and it can feel like falling

[@crewchief5144]

@@botheringsnape Depends on the pilot. Boot pilots aren't so bad. Transition pilots from other platforms still think it's a helicopter.

[@davidphillips8674]

Spent my 2014 deployment in Helmand attached to MARSOC on this aircraft. It does the job and is very safe.

[@TheUniverseHasMyBack]

I see and hear these machines fly over my house everyday along with jets here in San Diego at MCAS Miramar and its never gets old... Love the sound of FREEDOM, Thank you all for your service💯

[@johnwelch-goings1849]

I have seen these in person flying through buildings during marine week in Tennessee. If you didn’t know what was going on you would have anxiety. Takes a special breed of person to sign up for this job.Thank You Marines and all armed forces!

[@Mtmelendez]

After we were hit by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico, we saw a few of these fly over and then land near our local hospital to deliver supplies. What people don't realize is that these things are HUGE, and to see them takeoff and land is amazing.

[@JTytshorts]

Forever grateful for their service in Puerto Rico and everywhere else

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

The V-22 is a versatile platform. The Air Force and Navy have adopted it for their purposes and it does a good job.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

@@bradthompson5383 Only for Marines. The Air Force and Navy fly them very well.

[@spiffygonzales5899]

It cost us eighty million dollars.... it's garbage. What a huge waste of money.

[@mr_beezlebub3985]

@@spiffygonzales5899 No, it's not. The Marine Corps pilots who have crashed these aircraft are the victims of substandard training. Ask any Air Force pilot who flies the Osprey and they'll tell you it's a solid performer.

[@ZenithMotivation_]

Black ops 2 aircraft has come to life. We are living it gentlemen

[@LvdensArcturus]

I cant belive i saw this thing flying over my house down here in Brazil back in 2016, the noise this thing make its unbeliveble

[@mahtabahmed54]

2:30 84million $ machine with torn seat cushion?

[@bryand4326]

The few, the poor, the marines

[@crewchief5144]

@@bryand4326 True dat

[@markc312]

-Damn, homie said he’s Flying this Aircraft for as Long as his Body & Mind will Keep him Awake @3:23. -So just Picture it if this Pilot is Pushing 24-Straight-Hours of Flying this most Complex Aircraft were you Need to be 100% Aware Every Second with the Most Precious Cargo Onboard of Life.👏 -The Men & Women who do ALL these Jobs to Keep just this Aircraft going Everyday are True Hero’s; from the Crew, to the Maintainers & of course the Pilots and Everyone in between are invaluable to Our Country. So Thank You ALL. 🙏

[@Ascendeus]

Pilots do not fly for “24-Straight-Hours”. They have crew rest and are only allowed to fly in a certain window of time before landing after they show up to work. They go by the guidelines stated in the ‘Naval Air Training and Operating Procedures Standardization’ (NATOPS).

[@zknarc]

Much of their time will be on autopilot

[@HarshTekie]

While technically correct, MV-22 is Marine Corps plane, this report neglects the Air Force version, CV-22, and the Navy version, CMV-22.

[@sidv4615]

They're not saying that other variants of the aircraft don't exist, for example if they make a video with the Navy about the F 35 theyre definitely going to use the c model.

[@rhino4311]

Well the marine corps footed the development of the aircraft and fielded them first as well as trains the Air Force and navy

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@rhino4311 not necessarily. The development was facilitated by Navy employees. The flight clearance process rests with the Navy. We provide the clearances for USAF, USN and USMC. I’m a flight clearance, electrical, facilitator for all variants of V-22.

[@turnerbate5520]

The Marines still have the most v22's, as well as train other branches. So if they were going to talk about the 22 it would be the best to use Marines. Also the Navy variant doesnt do combat and the air force's has alot of sneaky squirrel stuff so it was probably just convinient.

[@rhino4311]

@@kaptainkaos1202 well navy and air force pilots and crew chiefs for the V22 get trained at Marine Medium tilt rotor squadron VMMT 204, and at the minimum the first pilots and crew chiefs were trained there, all marine aviation is dictated by the namp, I don’t know what you’re arguing about or what you’re point is. The marine corps is a part of the navy, but even navy maintenance personnel are trained at 204

[@timbumgarner1207]

I was in the Marines Corps for 25 years and during that time I flew ( rode) in these aircraft. I liked it. Semper Fi to the Marines who died in crashes while testing and working out the bugs for it.

[@busybody1474]

... you guys don't have enough Marines to work all the bugs out of that hunk of crap, scrap the damn things and design something reliable 💥

[@echochamber1234]

@@busybody1474 you design something reliable by trying and testing it many times lol.

[@ntrhopi]

Airplane mode is totally different for these people

[@BudgetFilmSchool]

These guys are awesome, seems like they really know what they're doing

[@RCAVDH]

So well maintained that the seat is all shredded up...

[@davon6704]

Marines are poor give em a break man

[@tywin1]

Yeah cos a shredded up seat affects how it flies right... lmao

[@Crabman_87]

@@tywin1 the abundant oil staining under the engines doesn't lie

[@bigdapramirez6157]

@@davon6704 not unless they appreciate what they have instead of cutting the seat up with a switchblade

[@TheDucatiPilot]

You'd be surprised how many shredded up seats I sat in flying Army Black Hawks. I'd rather have working engines and avionics than new butt cushions...

[@ryanmay05]

My 2nd favorite aircraft, right behind the A-10 Warthog, both are such badass aircrafts in their own right!

[@jackwilson4722]

I love the sound of these aircraft. Not a great safety record but they still cool.

[@kencornia3333]

I've witnessed these beautiful birds fly, and they are amazing machines, almost as amazing as the marines that fly them!

[@mesillahills]

From time to time two of them come low right over my house on approach to the Las Cruces, NM airport. I line up with the runway about a mile out. They always have the blades down in a propeller direction however. I think they are out of the not too distant Holloman Air Force Base. When the "Space Shuttle" was transported "piggyback" they did a low level fly over to the airport too. My immediate neighbor is the chief pilot for the Virgin Galactic space plane/rocket.

[@isliofficial]

They are out of Cannon AFB. Holloman is fighters

[@mesillahills]

@@isliofficial I think you are right, I didn't even know about that Air Force Base. I have no idea why they fly into here every once in awhile. An airplane crashed on takeoff out there yesterday. The pilot survived with minor injuries. I'm an avid fan of the new MS Flight Simulator 2020 and setting up to move from XBox X to full blown VR on a HP Reverb G2 at 4K.

[@ospreyau2759]

The v22 can be stol too. But the pilots have to be ready to pitch the n-cells on approach as the propellers will contact the ground if they're not..

[@ryan49805]

Wow that cockpit looked absolutely heinous!!! Nothing but respect for these pilots

[@crewchief5144]

That's the result of a piss-poor plane captain. Our squadrons always had at least one crew chief/plane captain assigned to each plane and usually an Avionicsman and an Airframer to keep it beautiful. Pride in ownership must not be a thing anymore. But, I'll put money that there's a pristine aircraft on the line that they spent all day getting pretty, and then overnight it got raped for parts and they had to use this one. Every. Damn. Time.

[@shads2369]

My Grandpa worked for Bell Aircraft and helped create this plane. It's always cool to see video of it since it's an incredible piece of engineering

[@userbosco]

God bless Navy/USMC pilots! Best in the world!

[@ignition07]

Was anyone else freaking out for the first few seconds when the thing looked like it was rotating blades as fast as my ass getting out of bed in the morning, but still flying?!?

[@boblee3322]

The way how the propellers are so close to the crew members during airplane mode is terrifying

[@midgetman4206]

Isn't like that on most wing mounted prop planes?

[@brandonhowsare2718]

Less than a foot from the blade tips to the skin of the fuselage

[@spinthecheez]

Was at HMHT-302. Miss those sun rises. And Jacksonville... Wilmington, and Myrtle Beach. Wow. Heck of a life. Rah

[@spinthecheez]

And those hurricane parties. whew.

[@crewchief5144]

I went through HMT-302 at Tustin. I think the sunrises and sunsets there were better, but early '90's was nothing but libbo and chasing skirts.

[@dannyz8723]

2:30 everything has been redesigned except the cushion.

[@CSM.101.]

I Never Knew It Was A Real Thing, All I Thought It Was Just Some Advanced Military Chopper In Call Of Duty, Looks Sick, Hats Off To The Engineers Who Designed This Masterpiece!

[@নিরভ্র]

When you don't have enough budget to buy the plane and helicopter separately 😉

[@YaMomsOyster]

Ya correct, It’s a bit quicker but doesn’t deliver much more than a medium/heavy helicopter.

[@ipant1056]

I mean the US does have money for both but decoded this would be cool

[@arcanondrum6543]

? "...don't have enough budget..." ??? Have you not yet learned about the Military-Industrial Complex? Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe, 5 Star General and President of the USA Dwight Eisenhower did.

[@ipant1056]

@@arcanondrum6543 mate are you okay? Seems like you've gotten too ar into the media

[@নিরভ্র]

@@ipant1056 Yes it was complete sarcasm! Even my country India has enough budget to buy and make all kinds of defense accessories:)

[@wareshubham]

are you a helicopter or a plane Osprey: Yes

[@prithiviraj3070]

What a magnificent creation!

[@johnking8724]

Great Respect for ALL Marine Pilots !

[@texasoff-roadmilitia425]

One time there was a ch53 who’s front landing gear didn’t want to deploy. So they flew patterns till everyone in the barracks got their mattresses and stacked them up so the ch53 can rest it’s nose with out damage. It’s was fun.

[@josephthomas439]

I saw same too, can't remember when or what base. Perhaps Quantico or New River. Or maybe Cubi point. My memory is bad now, but yes I saw that same thing. I was a ch53 hydraulics man from 73 to 77

[@MarcoPolo-qo1ge]

Very fascinating, Is it possible to have a video explaining the propeller rotation direction, and does that effect the MG aiming? Why aiming to the left is lower while to the right is higher? 🙏🏽

[@botheringsnape]

It has more to do with the rotation of the round and the airspeed/direction. The round’s path curves for the same reason a curveball does in baseball (Magnus effect)

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@botheringsnape perfect answer.

[@andreinarangel6227]

The MG is on the rear ramp and only covers that quadrant.

[@crewchief5144]

Left left low, right right high applies to all aerial gunnery. I was a CH-53 crew chief before I lat-moved and it's the same on that ramp gun. How I miss the GAU-21.

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@crewchief5144 my father is retired Navy and was a CH-46 crew chief for 10 years or so. SAR swimmer and all. I never realized my dad is a hero and such a bada$$. He keeps in touch with some people he rescued after all these years.

[@tdplumer]

Well done, Jake. Sobering yet informative and entertaining.

[@doodskie999]

Cant believe this plane already existed int he 80s It feels like this was just released on the 2000's

[@kdrapertrucker]

There was the XV-15 which proved the concept in the 1970s.

[@zknarc]

It takes an incredibly long to to get from technology demonstrator to in service aircraft, F35 started in the late 80s.

[@charliewright2435]

Y’all need to do RASP or Ranger.Assessment.Selection.Process

[@hellsfirealpha]

Saw a crew in San Diego doing the same exercise over and over again for hours. Gotta give them credit to have such patience.

[@justaduck6894]

They fly these all the time where I live. Pretty cool to watch them fly around the base.

[@Nygge1982]

dangerous, how many have crashed just close to your house?

[@anthonymendez5768]

I'm currently at Camp Geiger for MCT and I constantly see them flying around. It's awesome, easily one of the coolest aircraft ever!

[@rizzorizzo2311]

Some of these landed at our airfield in Afghanistan and since me and my friend had never seen one take off and fly away we parked the Buffalo directly behind it and waited. It was cool to see once it finally did.

[@stussymishka]

literally the coolest air craft ever

[@doctoroctos]

$84M, how much is a new seat? @ 2:29

[@LEGENDSIN4KREMASTERED]

That seat definitely needs to be replaced 😂 2:29

[@WConn100]

As the requirements for more pilots/officers increase you might consider dropping the four year degree BS. I had a commercial pilot certificate long before I had a degree. I am quadruple rated, commercial airplane, seaplane, glider and PPL Helicopter and my degree was of no help whatsoever. Look for aptitude, test scores and desire, beats a degree everyday.

[@vinyltapelover]

WConn100 "... consider dropping the four year degree BS." If I may add to your input: It seemed at one time, if a pilot desired to later move their career path in the direction of test pilot, the degree(s), in Engineering and Math were required.

[@WConn100]

@@vinyltapelover If you desire to move your career in a different direction then fine, achieve the desired degrees. MOST airline pilots do not take this route, therefore requiring such education only makes it harder to make it to the airlines. The Army when it realized how many helicopter pilots it needed adjusted requirements, established the Warrant rank and accepted HS grads. It was an arbitrary decision to require a degree to fly for the military and airlines and many had dropped this requirement thru the years. It's all a matter of supply and demand.

[@taoliu3949]

The degree is morso because he's an officer. All Officers need a 4 year bachelor's, and all Aviators in the Marine Corps are Officers. Army has a lot more aircraft than the Marine Corps. Marine Corps doesn't need as many pilots as does the Army.

[@vinyltapelover]

@@WConn100 " If you desire to move your career in a different direction then fine, achieve the desired degrees" I am 73, retired military and am not looking for a career change only to polish my motorcycle and shine the chrome. My response to your initial comment was not to dispute, argue or find fault in your thoughts as they were pretty much spot on. If you had paid attention to detail and pulled your head out of your armpit, you would have observed how I respectfully approach my comment to you. Your follow up reply also contained valued information. As this is ideally a "community" and no one person knows everything, it was my intent Only to hopefully add some additional input, from active and retired military pilots, who are smarter and knowledgeable about this stuff as they have been in the "business". Some have their own channels while others are visitors to some of the various military aviation you tube channels. "Arbitrary" is plainly a fact of life regardless of the profession anyone enters. It's ones choice to put up with the perceived b.s., deal, with what it takes to get that particular brass ring or whine, snivel and go mope and cry in a beer. "Arbitrary"?? Considering their academic education and aviation skills, ask then recently discharged World War II, Tuskegee Airmen, how they felt about "arbitrary" when they attempted to apply for civilian pilot positions.with the airlines. As I have hired and promoted people, they can have all the qualities, you mentioned of aptitude, test scores and desire. There is one quality you left out and that is having a of a positive Attitude, That can make a difference is whether they will fit in smoothly with the organization or will they plain "suck". A positive attitude, with or without a degree, goes along way. You might want to try it .sometime. Now I'm going to crank up the ol' Victrola, and chill out to the sounds of Miles Davis, Lynyrd Skynyrd and James Brown.:).

[@harrelsonyee4467]

Gorgeous aircraft that I hope I can see with my own eyes one day.

[@kaptainkaos1202]

I’m lucky. As soon as I’m done with training this am I’ll be on one testing after lunch.

[@harrelsonyee4467]

@@kaptainkaos1202 I wish you good luck

[@johndewey6358]

I am so grateful for the everyday efforts of our service personnel. Thank you for your service, sacrifice and all the risks and hardships that you and your families endure on our behalf.

[@TexasKoz]

Remarkable aircraft with world class operators and maintainers.

[@thisbumguy9876]

one of the great things about living in SoCal is being able to see these fly around all the time

[@whyguy5324]

One of these problems that needed to be “worked out” was the fact that when you lose your engines you turn into a brick. You can glide in a plane and autorotate in a heli but in an osprey the rotors move backwards and literally throw your aircraft to the ground. I’m not sure software can fully fix that

[@GintaPPE1000]

Uh, what? The direction of the rotor's rotation doesn't matter as long as the blades are oriented to generate lift when spun that way, which the V-22's obviously do otherwise they wouldn't provide lift when powered. The problem is that the Osprey's rotors don't generate enough lift when autorotating for the capability to be useful in emergencies. In aircraft mode, the rotor blades create drag when spinning, just like on any propeller aircraft. The direction of rotation doesn't affect how much drag is created - as long as both rotors are generating similar drag, which is determined by propeller pitch, the aircraft will remain level, although it will lose speed. The Osprey's wings are large enough to provide adequate lift for a glide landing, which is why the stated loss of power procedure is to glide the aircraft.

[@whyguy5324]

@@GintaPPE1000 I’m not an expert by any means so I definitely don’t have the technical knowledge to debate about this. Yes, some level of glide and autorotation is possible on an osprey. However, these are not great at all compared to conventional aircraft. I mean, the government recognizes that they aren’t very safe because they don’t let the president fly in them. Also, to be more specific about being thrown to the ground, I was referring to the vortex ring state that Ospreys are susceptible to

[@markp9139]

@@whyguy5324 So... you readily admit you're not an expert (which you clearly are not, based on your comments), yet you continue to drivel on... about things you don't know about. The fact that POTUS does not ride in V-22s has NOTHING to do with its safety record (which is actually pretty good). In order to get a V-22 into VRS, you'd have to fly it outside the limits by a wide margin, and even then it'd be difficult.

[@josephlibasci7865]

LOL. They don’t auto rotate. Good explanation for knowing nothing about the aircraft. One engine can take over in the event of failure to the other. These comments have got my cracking up.

[@zknarc]

There are still many unknown aerodynamic effects with tilt rotors. Helicopers are difficult enough but with two rotors so far apart, things get very complex in wind. One of the last projects I worked on in aerospace was a tilt rotor wind tunnel rig to try and better understand the aerodynamics.

[@yaviarro9623]

This is an impressive creation, there's still room for improvement, they just need the right mind.

[@september1683]

Best way: Get rid of sleepy presidents :-)

[@Artofficial1986]

I saw three of these flying in formation above my new york neighborhood the other day. A rare sight for me, these aircraft's are really interesting.

[@rmp5s]

Been on a whooooooole bunch of these, both in the states and in the sandbox. Even got to hang my head out the back of one to make sure we weren't going to land on UXO in 29. Friggin love it. They're dangerous af when compared to planes and helicopters (they can't glide like a plane OR auto-gyro like a helicopter) but they're STILL my preferred way to fly. They're SO sick...SUPER weird and STUPID powerful. Love it. Oorah. rmp5s 0651, USMC, 2009-2014, OEF 2011

[@labasrytas2876]

very dangerous machine- it had many lethal accidents

[@SuperCatacata]

You can make such a low effort, blanket statement about any Helicopter... Even the safest ones have had many "lethal accidents" over the years.

[@republicoftexas4651]

You are talking about a span of like 40 years. From the drawing board to testing to service.

[@miplaylis2054]

this is infamous for it

[@misham6547]

Yeah, not able to glide or autorotate.

[@bonbin6053]

Ik this sounds dumb but I’ve never seen an osprey fly with its propellers fully forwards, and they fly near me like every month

[@sidv4615]

You are trying to take down a missile defence system using a machine gun? What do you think the missile operator is going to do the whole time while you are approaching his battery and he's outside of your guns range?

[@companymen42]

You can carry a short range SAM on your back. It’s to keep the enemy from popping out of their hole and shooting you down with one.

[@sidv4615]

@@companymen42 hes carrying a machine gun

[@crewchief5144]

1) That's not the role of the ramp gun. 2) The aircraft has missile warning and countermeasures. 3) the last MANPAD fired at a US aircraft was 2013.

[@cliffthompson4149]

I always get excited when I see an osprey fly over Charleston South Carolina. God bless all of you pilots, and crew, and happy memorial Day!

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

The one time an piece of army transport kills it's occupants more often than it kills the intended target

[@Orenju11]

This takes airplane mode to a different level

[@Nygge1982]

ground level, crash

[@justinh7099]

Many many many accidents. It's a very unique aircraft with many challenges to overcome.

[@crisnmaryfam7344]

I did a report on these wayyy back in the day. Really cool bit of kit. Direct vertical ascent and still have lateral hovering ability. Almost a future style movie thing.

[@pasta-and-heroin]

didnt twig til i read ur comment but these things are fuckin cool - they’re very close to a UNSC Pelican from the universe of Halo!!!!! Holy shit how cool is the modern day.

[@alexturnqest6202]

I see the Airforce SOCOM versions of these and they are so Gucci to look at. You can tell there’s ALOT more expensive equipment on the already 84 million dollar marine corps version as it sits.

[@markp9139]

Yes there is... and the price tag is commensurately higher, too. I think the CV-22 was around $110M, at least at one point.

[@alexturnqest6202]

@@markp9139 That GOV tax money hits different. 😮‍💨lol

[@evangelistajoeaviles9092]

En Puerto Rico le estamos muy agradecidos, gracias

[@menguardingtheirownwallets6791]

You have to remember; the main reason this craft was developed was for hostage rescue after the Iran hostage crisis in 1980. A Coaxial rotor helicopter, with rigid rotors and a pusher propeller in the rear, is a much cheaper and safer design.

[@gt131970]

I believe Sikorsky is working on that currently.

[@htvlogs80]

They need to discontinue this dam plane & dump it in front of Boeing’s front yard.

[@exec2968]

This thing has put more soldiers in coffins than some armed conflicts. It’s hard to believe that the Marines use one of these as part of the Presidential air detail. I wouldn’t want to be one of the support staff/press members who have to ride in it.

[@isaiahhardie4248]

Do you know how many people.have died in UH-60s? Bet you don't........ I do I looked it up. Look up V22 deaths since 1990 and then Look up UH-60 deaths since 1990.

[@mesc681]

When a plane and helicopter have a baby

[@michaelfassilis4194]

It is a pleasure to see them overhead on a daily basis living and working near the auxiliary base in bogue NC.. can hear them a mile out when they're in tandem or in a group! Such an awesome machine. 👍

[@robertthompson1254]

During test flights of Osprey it took the lives of 30 test pilots.

[@sidv4615]

First flight in 1989 operational service started in 2007 think about that for a while.

[@robertthompson1254]

@@sidv4615 Never knew it went operational. Lived near Edward air force base and got the news there. It still took the lives of 30 test pilots. I just wanted to validate their lives.

[@sidv4615]

@@robertthompson1254 you lived near edwards? thats sooo cool. did you ever get to see a shuttle land?

[@djp1234]

Now they just need to make the same thing, but with 4 propellers and it will be much more agile, like a drone.

[@kaptainkaos1202]

Really? Do you not realize how difficult it was with just two engines? It took years and many lives just to get where we’re at now.

[@djp1234]

@@kaptainkaos1202 it would be more stable with 4 propellers

[@kaptainkaos1202]

@@djp1234 it truly wouldn’t be worth it IMHO. Just take a look at some of the flight maneuvers it does on KZbin. For the complexity, cost and increase in size the gain would be a Pyrrhic victory. I am a flight test engineer, electrical, and a flight clearance facilitator for all variants of the V-22 so I think it’s pretty good as is.

[@djp1234]

@@kaptainkaos1202 I still think future helicopters will be replaced by quadcopters when battery technology gets better and they become electric.

[@DeadWhiteButterflies]

Seriously, these things are a death trap.

[@Ruh-2000]

being a marine/army pilot is possibly the best and number 1 job someone can have

[@humorss]

I never thought about shooting tail guns and how the bullet react to vector momentum, interesting. and 9:46 they have emoji

[@juicemanirving]

So many moving parts the maintenance much be insane

[@crewchief5144]

It's gotten way better over the years, but yes the ratio of maintenance hours to flight hours is pretty brutal but it's like that with most operational aircraft.

[@markopolo945]

I hope China hasn't copied this! Such an amazing machine God Bless the USA🙏🏾🦅🇺🇸

[@MrJ691]

Copied

[@Teacher2Polis2XtraRice]

Today in Norway there's a 4 marines died again while riding this plane.

[@asyrafdanish8131]

Not a great plane

[@Juiceboxdan72]

I saw a few of these fly over my house once. They are much louder than I would have expected!

[@jonny-b4954]

0:32 Huh, never realize that. Wonder why none of the airshows have shown the aircraft like that before. They're pretty cool to walk through.

[@sanara_on_tour]

What happens if they have only one engine? Flight will be not the problem, the landing will...

[@A2nthop]

The engines are joined by a shaft that runs through the wing. So if you lose one engine, the remaining engine can provide enough power to both rotors to safely land.

[@williampamula290]

Take out fixed wing gliding for safe landing, take out autorotation for a safeish landing for helicopters. you get v-22 osprey.

[@superslimanoniem4712]

@@A2nthop vertical landing though

[@_Oli___]

@@superslimanoniem4712 both engines feed into the same gearbox. Both props can run off one engine through the shared gearbox. Similar to a Chinook

[@TheXoronLP]

@@williampamula290 you sure this vehicle isnt capable of autorotation? i dont see a reason why it shouldnt

[@nathangoddard8115]

Those pilot seats are just neat to hell. Cannot be comfortable.

[@pw1277]

Its a low priority issue they’d rather have the engines run, over crew comfort

[@-BirdsRegion]

Красиво конечно, класс 👍

[@seancollins6524]

What a Machine to work on very cool. Looking in from Ireland 🇮🇪

[@baomao7243]

9:49 “Just make sure you lock up the bird and bring the gun when you head back in…”