How Michael Stipe Tried To Save Kurt Cobain's Life

[@BarbaraClerc]

Michael stipe also helped Thom Yorke A LOT during his depression following OkComputer. The song "how to disappear completely..." On the following album KidA is written from the memory of Thom struggling with so many interviews and gigs and Michael taught him to just breath and imagine he is not here and this is not happening.... Looks like Michael Stipe is a real soul sheperd

[@inutero10]

Thom has said thats the song of his he likes the most. I concur.

[@shawnwhite2120]

That makes a lot of sense now didn’t know that but explains why in certain interviews Tom would sit with his back to the interviewer at times

[@mack4496]

I love Michael soo much!!! Always and forever will.

[@june6387]

Michael Stipe is an unique person. I love him so much . He was here -in Praha and Olomouc- decades ago....

[@silversnail1413]

Michael Stipe also provided a lot of help and support to disabled singer-songwriter Vic Chesnutt, producing his two first albums and even guesting on a few of his songs.

[@squireman123]

I wasn't aware of the deep connection between Stipe and Cobain. Thanks for making this.

[@clearlycaribbeanreb2895]

They were lovers

[@dennismcdonald2607]

It was actually a 'thing' back in the day that Cobain and Stipe had a bisexual relationship. In fact, Cobain was on record saying he was possibly gay.

[@RiversMorgan94]

@@dennismcdonald2607 show me the proof

[@RiversMorgan94]

@@clearlycaribbeanreb2895 proof?

[@clearlycaribbeanreb2895]

@@RiversMorgan94 🙄🥱

[@nelliesilvers1210]

I know Kurt had been talking to Stipe and Corgan about doing Ledbelly covers and that style of music just before he died and was really excited about making that change. Scared, obv, but excited. He'd also been in touch with Mark Lanegan about doing collaborative stuff with him. Pity Lanegan never answered those last calls Kurt had been making to him. Lanegan never forgave himself for that because it was mere days before Kurt's death he'd ignored his last call. Would've been epic to hear what they would've done if Cobain's passing never happened and their collabs came into fruition.

[@Caribou1983]

Not Corgan, but Greg Sage from the Wipers

[@wormskull2454]

Yeah he was supposed to fly down to Arizona where Greg Sage/Zeno Records had relocated to & record with him. Where the hell did you read about Billy Corgan?! Haha!

[@StonerMatt]

1) I highly doubt he was close to Corgan 2) KC was a big fan of Leadbelly wayyyy before becoming famous, just check about The Jury recordings in 89

[@martinahiesch4872]

@@StonerMattnee ganz bestimmt kein Fan nein, Corgan war der geliebte von love der schlampe

[@martinahiesch4872]

@@Caribou1983 richtig... Corgan war geliebte von love, der schlampe

[@eviegreenfeather5304]

Automatic was and still is one of my top 10 favourite albums. Kurt was looking forward to working with Mr stipe. I wish I had a Time Machine.☮️🌏

[@ktrock77]

Thanks!

[@RockTV11]

Thankyou. Much appreciated!

[@citizenx8512]

You learn something new everyday . Glad I witnessed his unplugged live.

[@jbrown7403]

“Let Me In” is such a powerful song by itself but even more so as a tribute to Kurt. ❤️

[@adamfindlay7091]

I like the stipe/cobain supergroup ruse. Very nice. Stipe is sometimes forgotten...not that he didn't have a moonton of sucess. I mean artistically.

[@revwillyg6450]

Duff McKagan was one of the last people to see him too. In his book he talks about sitting next to Kurt on a plane home to Seattle. They even chatted about how much it sucked to have addictions

[@rockgirlemilyavery]

Totally sucks to have addictions. I agree.

[@nervonica4952]

@@daniellewatson8352 WHY DON'T YOU QUIT USING FOUL LANGUAGE.

[@rockgirlemilyavery]

@nervonica4952 I believe it. If you're an addict, they always always always think you're drug seeking. It's SOOO annoying.

[@rockgirlemilyavery]

@nervonica4952 dude do you know these people and whynthey use drugs? Who cares why someone uses drugs? Why you telling me about this? All i said was yeah it sucks to have an addiction because I'm an addict. I said nothing of anyone else's use but my own. And guess what,I love heroin, for pain and recreation. I also hate it because addiction sucka and you get so so so so so fucking sick from it

[@rockgirlemilyavery]

@nervonica4952 so is Kurt better than Courtney because he uses for pain NO Neither are "bad". Addiction is addiction and there are many many variants. Everyone uses for diff reasons.why u getting all defensive? I believe doctors weren't giving him enough. They see an addict coming and we better forget getting treated like a human. It's very sad that med professionals always think we're drug seeking. In my opinion its MUCH MUCH easier to drug seek on the streets than it is in a doc office or hospital. I've actually never done it and I've been addicted to something for 25 years, all various substances. So just calm down Veronica. Please. I don't want any drama.

[@Trader101]

You know I just put this together do not know if anyone noticed this as well but the In Utero album cover and Alice in chains Dirt Album backgrounds as almost the same. Just a odd thing I picked up on. Both albums was released in September just a year apart.

[@TheAzmatt7]

I grew up in Athens, GA during this time. If I knew he was there for a bit with Michael, I would have flipped. I have a picture of the hand written receipt from Cobain when he bought a bunch of tapes and cd's at the local college record store.

[@seriousbismuth2173]

Would it happen to be from Wuxtry records? 😘

[@TheAzmatt7]

@@seriousbismuth2173 that would be a yes. Just a little hand writren paper receipt.

[@seriousbismuth2173]

@@TheAzmatt7 Good ol Classic City. Still pop in Wuxtry's on occasion. Cool.

[@TheAzmatt7]

@Serious Bismuth I'm out in Phoenix now, so I don't get to go, but every few years.

[@shuel1643]

I knew alot of things.. But this I did not know so thank you that was heartwarming and sad too

[@Angie-fq4mz]

🎉Thanks for posting .... I really enjoy your chann😂

[@kkrsnn5632]

That would have been some interesting music .... Thanks Micheal 😊

[@douglasmijangos3327]

I thought “About a Girl” was inspired by the Beatles.. I’ve heard a number of times that Kurt listened to the Beatles all day long(for a long time) I think it was mainly “With the Beatles” and then he came up wit “About a Girl” you can tell the huge influence of the Beatles on the song..

[@douglasmijangos3327]

@@daniellewatson8352 the Beatles song that always comes to mind when I listen to About a Girl is “I should’ve Know Better” it has the same kind of chord going from one chord to another .. About a Girl from E(well Kurt played an Em technically since he fingered it different from others) it goes from E to G and I should’ve know better goes from D to G and back and forth the same way .. and the solo in the middle of the song has that same feeling too .. well for me personally Nirvana and The Beatles are my 2 favorite bands of all time so I love the similarities 😂

[@douglasmijangos3327]

@@daniellewatson8352 😂I just realized another thing .. even the way he sings .. the call back when he sees “I do” he sings a line and then he calls back to himself with “I Do” the Beatles did that in some of the songs too.. “It Won’t be Long” it a great example on the album he was said to listen to at the time.. that’s the first song 😂 and the entire album starts by the Beatles singing back and forth to each other 😂 I bet there’s probably more Beatles influence that I haven’t really tried to listen for 😂

[@douglasmijangos3327]

@@daniellewatson8352 yeah I know a couple people who don’t care for the Beatles.. but the reason I love them so much because I see the immense influence everywhere in music .. like the Ramones getting their name from Paul when he went to Germany I believe.. the Beatles wanted to have these “alter egos” and Paul named himself Paul Ramone.. to Motley Crue covering Helter Skelter.. to Charles Manson being inspired by Helter Skelter to do the crazy stuff he did.. to CCR being inspired so much by the Beatles.. to Sting and Ozzy saying they decided to become musicians when they first saw the Beatles.. they’re everywhere when it comes to music I love .. like inspiring Nirvana.. how Kurt hated recording his vocals and when he didn’t want to the producer told him “John Lennon double tracked his Vocals” and Kurt would give in and do them 😂

[@violetscreaming]

Automatic for the people was apparently the last album kurt ever listened to. I read that they surmised he listened to it in the bedroom whilst writing the note before going up to the greenhouse. Not sure how factual it was.

[@imxlnt2]

Wow. Stuff not told to us at the time! Good video.

[@anastasiamurawski6179]

Actually it was no secret, but people chose to ignore all of this, they would rather believe that Courtney killed him . Gives them someone to blame. Why would Courtney hold an intervention for Kurt if she wanted him dead?? So ridiculous.

[@nervonica4952]

I THINK IT'S FUNNY HOW EVERYONE THAT KNEW KURT PERSONALLY SAID THAT KURT WAS UPBEAT HAPPY AND NOT DEPRESSED WHATSOEVER.

[@fgoindarkg]

...and you are correct.

[@stayphia]

did you not hear where they say he would talk to him and try and get him out of dark places?

[@ZestyPepper1]

Agree. So much evidence pointing to the fact that Kurt was murdered.

[@nervonica4952]

​@@stayphiaDID YOU NOT READ MY COMMENT THOROUGHLY ENOUGH? I DON'T THINK SO.

[@nervonica4952]

@@fgoindarkg THANKS MAN I'M A HUGE KURT COBAIN FAN. HE WAS THE BEST GUITAR PLAYER ON THE ROCK SCENE

[@Dave-xs9dm]

I heard prince was on a balcony, thinking about jumping. And mick jaggar showed up

[@thesoundpurist]

you really have to be in a bad place to act on it. It happened to me but I'd never be this motivated to hurt myself. Damn not much left from our 80/90's era.

[@dannysunwantedopinions]

Kurt had Automatic for the People playing on repeat when his body was found.

[@markcortez5685]

yeah i think was playing on his ipod

[@markcortez5685]

@@daniellewatson8352 lol

[@markcortez5685]

@@daniellewatson8352 it wasn't me 😁😅

[@arielmacruimein7713]

I think I heard or read that Neil Young was trying to get in touch w Kurt a week before Kurt shot himself. Young was going to tell Kurt to quit & just walk away from the business for a while.

[@riverx6802]

Mike was close to River Phoenix too, he knew who the good guys were and how they were destroying themselves.

[@michaelwilson2340]

Didn't Genesis P. Orridge of Throbbing Gristle talk to Ian Curtis on the phone not long before Curtis committed suicide? He knew something was wrong with Ian but he couldn't get in contact with Ian's friends by phone because none of them were at home at the time and the Internet and texting didn't exist back in 1980.

[@RiversMorgan94]

Who is Ian Curtis?

[@michaelwilson2340]

@@RiversMorgan94 Who is Lizard B?

[@RiversMorgan94]

@@michaelwilson2340 me 😂

[@seriousbismuth2173]

​@@RiversMorgan94 ummmm the lead singer for Joy Division... 🙁

[@cedricke]

But he saved thom yorke....

[@CamRebires]

John Frusciante also once said REM's music saved him at his lowest!

[@DrownSodaMejia]

The same John who gave river phoenix his death dose? How rich

[@davidrhodes7655]

Artists can sometimes be fragile human beings Van Gogh springs to mind some develope huge egos some retreat within the themselves it was a sad day 8th April 1994 RIP Kurt if your in heaven your gonna have a great band imagine your choice of drummers Moon Bonham Watts

[@ricopo3522]

The kind of hyper-sensitivity inherent to artists used to tap into the creative process can also make the world a difficult, painful place. Add to that the craziness that comes with all the trappings and pressures of fame and.........

[@claudia-Silva]

A myth. Human beings can be fragile, not only artists! There is and huge amount of people who are high-sensitive and NOT artists. Just study!

[@nicholasclauder837]

what interview are these stripe clips from? thanks!

[@em945]

From my understanding this 'low energy' period always comes naturally as part of wave...the 'high energy' is where all the new creative energy comes through. Sensitive humans, particularly the supercreatives, aren't built to be 'on' or in genius mode all the time. The brain interprets this low energy or lack of creativity as a problem to be fixed, and looks to replicate the high energy with drugs and distractions.

[@TheDeedeeFiles]

Nice story

[@chuckydall9250]

You can't help someone who doesn't want help sadly

[@chuckydall9250]

@Danielle Watson Had people just left him alone and stopped trying to force him to go on tour and get clean he might be alive today. You can't force someone like that to get clean they have to hit rock bottom and want it themselves.

[@chuckydall9250]

@Danielle Watson No doubt about it very tough position to be in. The problem was they started taking advice from people who didn't care about him and only looked at him as a way to make money like that fraud Bob Timmons who charges 80k for a intervention he knows won't work then he goes and tells people Kurt's personal business he did the same thing to Layne Stanley. Even Courtney said I wish I had let him be and do his thing until he decided to stop instead of throwing him out of the house and forcing him into rehab because it backfired. They should of had he committed to a mental hospital after he tried killing himself in Rome. Instead, they covered it up. Even his best friend didn't know it was a suicide attempt. But hindsight is always 20/20.as they say!!

[@romeokoroma3341]

I like your video but can you please do 2pac and Kurt Cobain how they influence and impact the 90’s because for 2pac is that his music earned attention and respect through a poetic style that embraced street vocabulary while being innovative For Kurt is that addressing social issues not only through his music, but also in interviews. Racism and sexism were brought up by the band and considering that it was the 90’s it was a big deal to speak out about social issues such as that.

[@jeffhardy1575]

Too bad they didn't have a photo together 😕

[@giuliettarenner1343]

How they made you believe lies. And plenty of them..

[@cinderbinx]

It was the end of grunge as we knew it.

[@angelnocharlie]

Kurt was an undiagnosed Asperger. Everything about him feeling like an alien, not fitting in with his peers the bullying he endured, the periods of isolation to recharge, the drugs to mask the pain of trying to fit in every single day as its hard work to be thinking of normal rules of behaviour with everything coming at you in your head during say a photoshoot to smile or not to smile as it doesnt feel authentic and aspies want to be all the time. Resting bitch face is a thing yet you feel happy inside. Even his stomach pain fits. When burnout hits its a very dark place indeed but im not convinced he took his own life the facts dont stack up but being very trusting of friends can be a problem and he wasnt alone in that house with a car with slashed tires and too much heroin in him to pack up his kit neatly then fire a gun. No he was used.

[@stephenkpbyrne]

The issue was Kurt could not get to the car that pulled up from Michael Stipe, Kurt was being held hostage in his final days by people working for Courtney Love. Thanks Michael Stipe for trying to help✌🏻 much love & respect

[@grungegods]

Absolutely there was a major plan put in place by Courtney Love at that time. They failed in Rome and were going to make sure the jib was done this time!

[@Danathema]

This wasn’t in his “final days”, this was in March before Cobain left state to go to rehab. Cobain was on a three day bender before he killed himself and was seen all over Seattle in various locations. The absolute bullshit murder theorists make up to try and make their pathetic fantasies come true. Cobain never answered as he cut out everyone who refused to enable his heroin addiction

[@scooterruns9355]

@@grungegods yea man nothing says foul play like calling the paramedics to come revive the victim right?

[@grungegods]

@scooterruns9355 ofcourse they would have to call the paramedics! If they did not call them they would be suspicious.... that's why they waited so long.... but not long enough. They weren't expecting kurt to recover.

[@scooterruns9355]

@@grungegods but all they had to do was let him die if they wanted him dead. waited so long? the doctor there specifically praised Courtney's quick response in saving his life. Is the doctor in on the big conspiracy too? what about all the other times she saved his life? how do you explain that away?

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

How would they use Kurt’s guitar. Kurt was a leftie. Did they string it upside down or something?

[@ArnieJames666]

They show it being played strung reverse in the clip.

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

@@ArnieJames666 that makes sense. Apparently Hendrix who was also a lefty had to string right handed guitars upside down because it was even harder to find them back in the sixties. It gave him a unique tone because the pickups designed for the higher strings were picking up the lower ones and vice versa.. though I’m not sure how true that is. Just something I remember hearing from some documentary or something.

[@ArnieJames666]

@@SkywalkerSamadhi definitely true, I don't know about the tone part but I do know that being left handed was considered a form of mild retardation back in day and was frowned upon by doctors, teachers, etc. Back in those days left handed guitars were very rare, I think fender started making them in the 60's but in very limited numbers and they were most likely more expensive.

[@fgoindarkg]

@@SkywalkerSamadhi No. Pickups don't work that way. The only difference is that on a strat the bridge pickup is offset toward the bridge on the treble side. The bass strings would have a little more treble tone, which would be good for a distorted sound. So you're kinda right.

[@kellyholladay1687]

​​​@@ArnieJames666 True. I was born left handed, but in the 1970s the public school system in the US forced me to write and use scissors with my right hand. It's called forced handedness. Then they wondered why I got bad grades in handwriting class. The whole thing has my brain messed up decades later. It's like I don't ever know which hand to use. It feels like I'm doing everything backwards. It's preposterous that they thought they could make me right handed instead of simply accepting me. I was told "This is the way the world is set up and you must conform". I gravitated towards musical instruments too, because I could use both hands.

[@calexprenas]

💔

[@E.C.2]

Kurdt needed a conversion to traditional Catholicism. Chad Channing should've been inductec to RRHOF!

[@blood_sausage9620]

I miss you too Kurt 😔

[@justsomedude69]

Stipe sounds like a really great guy. I wish Kurt chose a wife who wasn't so completely unsupportive.

[@Texocracy]

Yeah, well, he was murdered, so this premise is incorrect. All the evidence is available now to anyone who cares.

[@moomoo-bv3ig]

I believe it but sources?

[@chestrockwell6807]

evidence like what? lets hear it. cite one shred of credible evidence for foul play that would hold up in a courtroom.

[@TammyFox1989]

Not sure what to think about Michael Stipe & his comments on Kurt but it sounded just like Courtney talking to me!! R.I.P. ⚘Kurt🥀

[@snomad2248]

the guy did routinely destroy guitar and flip has fans off to be fair...

[@Danathema]

Maybe Stipe, who was close enough to him to be made godfather to his daughter, knows him and his situation a tad better than fans who never met him.,

[@prof.aggrospeed4315]

It’s probably because you missed the part where Kurt got out of the closet🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TammyFox1989]

@@prof.aggrospeed4315 Never knew Kurt was in the closet...🤷‍♀️

[@prof.aggrospeed4315]

@@TammyFox1989 Fun Fact, He composed all the In Utero songs in a closet in his L.A. Home. I think he was trying to tell us something.

[@meta4282]

And then Courtney's lawyer found her writing pad in which she was practicing faking Kurt's hand writing over and over again...

[@chestrockwell6807]

that paper looks nothing like Kurt's handwriting and the note has been ruled authentic by literally every forensic handwriting expert who ever looked at it.

[@anastasiamurawski6179]

@@daniellewatson8352 The easy way out???

[@DrownSodaMejia]

Ridiculous, these conspiracy theories are boring in 2023

[@buddingvenus81]

@@chestrockwell6807 what a joke!!! Did you get another profile on KZbin, troll

[@buddingvenus81]

@@chestrockwell6807 i will just block you again. The lies and bs you spout off. Go get your paycheck from Courtney!

[@phototristan]

IMO, it's the ultimate 'FU' to still kill yourself or OD when people you love have tried to help you. I lost all respect for Cobain I had for him then.

[@anastasiamurawski6179]

It's not a "FU" at all, it's a person who is suffering thinking there is no other solution to their problems.

[@kimlarso]

@@anastasiamurawski6179no; there are the huge FU’s!

[@claudia-Silva]

Yes, many people do not even have One friend trying to help...!

[@buddingvenus81]

Did Stipe know that Kurt was in a bad place because of Courtney Love???

[@roddyboethius1722]

Kurt would have been in a bad place with any woman. He chose Courtney

[@ishtlutz1261]

THANK YOU! Yorue the only one actually thinking here. Right on. Good to know there’s someone else.

[@buddingvenus81]

@@roddyboethius1722 ok roddy bottum

[@wednesdaysangel1]

Exactly

[@starwarssatan5588]

Courtney had Cali Dewitt murder Kurt. Apparently youre not familiar with the facts of kurts death

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

I remember hearing about this when Kurt died, and it seemed like such an odd couple.

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

@@daniellewatson8352 Cobain and Michael Stipe.

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

@@daniellewatson8352 Musically. What do you think I mean, sexually? Wake up.

[@Liquidreflective]

​@@chocolatetownforever7537 A lot of musicians that were considered non-mainstream would consider themselves "cut from the same cloth" even if their music was different as long as they were emotionally honest and not just in it for money.

[@chocolatetownforever7537]

@@Liquidreflective Of course they do, however if you grew up listening to Kurt, you know how cynical he was in general, and especially in terms of his opinion of some of the poppier type bands, as R.E.M. was. R.E.M. was always considered one of the kings of the term, "college rock", which is just the polar opposite of the music that Nirvana produced. It doesnt mean he DIDNT like some pop music, just based on Kurt, interviews Ive seen of him, and HIS musical style, the pairing of he and Michael Stipe seems like an odd one. If you disagree, fine, but I dont think my original comment of Kurt and Michael seemingly being an odd couple, is all that strange, or needed to be explained lol

[@wittersjeph]

I remember always believing that Stipe pushed him over the edge. It may not be as simple as he’s letting on…. Not that we’ll ever know, but I’m just going to stay with my suspicions…. That being said, I went to the Monster tour show when it came to Detroit. As I went to school (I was in 3rd grade) the following day, at the high school across the street on a picnic bench sat Michael Stipe talking with a class - I wouldn’t have said it if he weren’t wearing what he wore on stage! My friends and I started chanting his name, and then the whole playground eventually joined in. It took time, but he did come over and signed my notebook with my pencil lol. It wasn’t until I saw a pic of his autograph (once the internet became a thing) that I knew it had to be real, because it wasn’t written in cursive as his signature is!

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

You went to a concert in 3rd grade? A 3rd grade that was across the street from a high school that Michael Stipe went and hung out at the day after their concert? In the same clothes as the night before, no less. You must of gone to an advanced elementary school if a bunch of it’s students knew who REM was and for Stipe to come over and sign autographs for a bunch of 10 year olds.

[@scooterruns9355]

this sounds like a BS story

[@wittersjeph]

@@SkywalkerSamadhi I think it actually was 4th grade now that I think about it, but my first concert my parents took me to - fall of 92, Grateful Dead - and the first concert I took them to was Spin Doctors, Gin Blossoms & Cracker, which was either fall of 93 or spring of 94. The school across the street used to be housing for teachers during the Baby Boom of the 40s, but had been repurposed into an alternative high school. I’ll scan a copy of the autograph if I find time

[@Shortfusefilm]

Why is George W Bush narrating this video? 😂

[@arricammarques1955]

GW able to read?

[@lizzull6621]

There is an awful lot of proof it wasn't a suicide at all. just sayin'

[@dalecross4543]

Didn't do a good job

[@PhilippeDumont73]

why didn’t you helped him ?

[@RiversMorgan94]

He never had any real friends once he became a gold mine

[@jpakos6701]

HOW TO SAVE A MAN FROM A MEDUSA ??? Aka COURTNEY

[@moomoo-bv3ig]

She is even more ugly than Medusa though..

[@rijksvoorlichtingsdienst4427]

You kinda failed there though didnt you mike