How MLK BETRAYED Bayard Rustin

[@sasentaiko]

Not sure which is more depressing… the video or the comments. It IS overt homophobia to treat radical queer organizers as disloyal or distracting. Fantastic video btw. Esp your analysis and the concerns you raise. Same things happening in other post-colonial liberation movements too.

[@MacchiMC]

Yes

[@anybody606]

The little unspoken rule in most protests/movements goes like this: "We're not here to support each other in THE struggle, YOU are here to be a subjugated into MY struggle." And it's hard to navigate as an LGBTQIA or a black woman.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

mmmm yes yes yes. i think that's where revolutionary solidarity comes into play, or DECOLONIAL solidarity

[@tsingletary6311]

Let's all learn to recognize when this is happening and only move with those that call out and resist these oppressive tendencies. They kill the wave every time.

[@mikahist4155]

What if that division, you feel need to do, to divide your needs from the protest , is not just weakening you but also the protest at all??

[@anybody606]

@@mikahist4155 It's a limiting activity, but it's geared on the notion that you deserve 'more equality' or should get your 'rights first' and THEN consider other people not like you who helped you. That's limiting, and cutting your feet off in the middle of the race.

[@KaiCo-oi3fh]

If white supremacy is the power to privilege all that is hetero White males it requires socially creating systems & institutions made with a culture of anti queer black 'male' -dehumanized. A criminal, Dangerous. A threat. Hence the phrase "unarmed black male killed by police. "

[@pushkin1969]

I loved your videos. As a gay man who is 55, I am always reminding people how racist much of the gay rights movement was. Men and women of color were often excluded from the discussion and that was to our detriment. We can only advance when we realize how crucial intersectionality is. I as a white man have had many Black and brown lovers but I would never presume to assume their situation was exactly like mine. I wish everyone had realized Black and Queer is beautiful 60+ years ago!

[@BlackIce675]

Why. Wtf would that achieve 🤔 If you were so colorblind civil rights legislation wouldn't need to exist.

[@colonelweird]

I notice a number of comments referring to Rustin as a CIA informant. I don't know whether this is true, but what is more important for us now is Rustin's strong neoconservative convictions -- he seems to have supported the American empire with great passion, including its numerous military interventions. When he criticized them, it seems to have been from the perspective of a centrist/liberal, not someone who believed people around the world had a right to self-determination. This makes me wonder what he meant by calling himself a "socialist" -- I assume it probably meant social democracy, i.e., reformed capitalism. And if Rustin was a neocon, he surely could not have been a big fan of the Black Panthers. To me this raises a lot of questions generally about those years -- how could it be that so many on the left joined the deranged anticommunist crusade? Was the civil rights movement really a movement opposing white supremacy, or something much less radical? I've heard some argue that a major cause of the success of the civil rights movement is the belief at the federal level that Jim Crow was an international embarrassment that gave fuel to the communists for propaganda. Without the Soviet Union as a boogey man, would the civil rights movement have had the success it did? In view of the failures of so many movements in the U.S. after 1989, I think it's a question worth asking. In any case, learning about these other aspects of Rustin's politics has definitely altered my view of him for the worse.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Yes yes yes. Your questions all speak to a deeper need to understand the complexity of the civil rights movement and the different political factions involved. Were they decolonial? Or were they simply looking for black illusions of freedom or liberation?

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin So many ladders being pulled up, that eventually no one is *really* climbing. The marginalized would be in a much better place, if we actually stood in solidarity throughout the decades💯.

[@dre_withwithout]

The one most egregious things Bayard did was found BASIC(BLACK AMERICANS TO SUPPORT ISRAEL COMMITTEE) .. But him and A. Phillip Randolph starting BASIC is a whole other issue in and of itself that is a discussion. I think Bayard from learning about him fits the mold of a lot of people in the civil rights movement. They seem to have just wanted to be part of the reindeer games. It is telling that a lot of prominent people during the movement who didn’t fit that mold went to Europe for a bit: Baldwin, Robeson and the like. I think we look at the civil rights movement sometimes through rose colored liberated glasses. But some folk just wanted in on the reindeer games.

[@TheHappybunny671]

Most definitely. Derrick Bell, the founder of critical race theory, created this theory called interest convergence. He argues that it civil rights advancements only happen when the interests converge and also benefit white people. Mainly he argues that the uprisings and segregation made the US look bad in the Cold War as you mentioned. Additionally, it’s also why the solutions were not so radical. It didn’t redistribute wealth or anything it simply said segregation over without solving the problem so on paper the US could not be critiqued in the same way.

[@BigBlakMan-hr9mb]

He was an FBI informant, thats why alot of people in the movement were suspicious of him

[@judyanderson3500]

Bayard Rustin was the wheel in the middle of the wheel that made the march on Washington happen. He was ahead of his time no matter his sexual preferences. He was a great freedom fighter for our people.

[@JS-yt1bl]

He opposed reparations and stated that gay non blacks were suffering more than blk ppl.

[@alphonsomorris793]

He didn't want freedom, he was social integration.

[@tagon70]

Great point ! Integration failed us.correction….the way we integrated was a failure.

[@alphonsomorris793]

@@tagon70 how should we of integrated? Integration has always been written about as destruction of minority populations large dominant cultures

[@pinkopansy]

"you don't know that some of your behaviour is subconsciously aligning yourself with the state and thats a problem" is an accurate assessment of the "activist" spaces I've interacted with

[@manueldavidson1398]

Very informative and educational as well as raising awareness of patriarchal, homophobic and sexiest attitudes which prevailed in the Civil Rights and Black self determination movements.

[@user-cq2iz1tv6l]

there is this podcast I listen to on Spotify called History is Gay and it talks about many infamous/famous queer radicals including queer people of color in history. The podcast also talks about their life story and their impact on history. Another podcast I'd recommend is Bad Gays, it is really interesting for learning about the queer people who were on the wrong side of history, which adds an extra layer of nuance to the queer experience of politics.

[@nicolesherman8974]

I’m ready for this video! Since we’re on the topic of Bayard Rustin and MLK, did you watch the Rustin documentary starring Coleman Domingo, and if so what were your thoughts?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I talk about that biopic some in this video... Haha it was not my favorite film

[@tsingletary6311]

Excellent analysis of high quality research! I wanna see you and Herby Revolus vibe together 🥰

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you for watchufn. And That would be cool. I recently watched herbys Beyonce video

[@nicholasKMAmusic]

Yes!!

[@lorriechristian7164]

This about to be a banger

[@mikahist4155]

When it comes to my activism : I go with the pyramid of needs by Maslow: 1.priority fulfillment of basic needs 2: security needs: housing , working/income 3 .social needs: friendships, Partner 4: acknowledgement through achievement 5: individual needs: NOW I , AS A TRANSFLUID , LESBIAN, BI, WONT PUT MY NEEDS OF STAGE: 3&4 FROM ABOVE, BEFORE THE NEEDS OF OTHERS WHO LACK STAGE 1:FOOd,2 :Housing/income ARE NOT MET. We live in a fucking egocentric world, and that's making it harder for us all,cause you gotta watch shoplifters, cause you gotta watch crimes scenes because of deprivation of foods, you gotta watch homeless cause they can't afford housing: this circle will reach wherever you live and it will slowly but surely destroy ever so beautiful neighborhoods: cause people at the end need to eat and sleep somewhere: without or with help of crime.

[@m4chines]

This video was so well put together and a huge eye opener for me from that era. Great work and I’m sorry about all the obstacles and struggles you’ve had while organizing/doing good work, no one should ever have to feel that unsafe

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

thank you so much for watching. im just hoping this resonates with folks and that we all can learn from history, whether decades ago or recent history.

[@duefeht]

dude i havent even formally started the video yet and I'm SAT, FLOORED, and have the utmost admiration for you

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

❤️ Thank you.

[@KaiCo-oi3fh]

Now that I think of it why is it the Civil Rights Movement never brought about women's rights and gay rights you would think civil rights would be all incompassing but they're not these groups still had to fight and they're still others out there not under the umbrella

[@CzharcusMJones]

The Civil Rights Movement was for black people. Making it all-encompassing would have been a great idea in a world that didn't have a special disdain for the descendents of people that labored for centuries to build this country for free. They are treating it as if it was all-encompassing today anyway. I don't think that's a bad thing in itself but I think there is some inclination towards the erasure of the people that fought for it (descendents of the slaves). I think that is because the special disdain is still alive. I believe that special disdain existed then and today because the very existence of the enslaved and their unrepaired descendents in this country contradicts everything this country purports to stand for. It's like looking in the mirror and everything you see are the flaws you don't see otherwise. We would tend to reflexively get mad at/hate the mirror.

[@mrexecutive]

What does all this other stuff have to do with black ppl being deprived of resources?

[@shouldveusedsafesearch8099]

​@@mrexecutive Black cis women and Black Queer and Trans people exist. That's why. Far too many Black Liberation movements and protests hyper-focus on the plight of cishet Black men.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

​@@shouldveusedsafesearch8099because we're not trying to lose our rights no homosexuality.

[@BlackIce675]

​@CzharcusMJones yeah. It WAS FOR BLACK PEOPLE. Not LGBTQ AND FEMINIST. And look wtf they're doing to it while they're sons get murdered, imprisoned and left homeless and uneducated. The gays and feminist say " make woman a meaningless word, make my man and I feel straight despite us being gay "

[@BigBlakMan-hr9mb]

If you yall dont stop these lies. Bayard Rustin was FBI informant and he was nowhere near as important as people try to make him seem.

[@SonOfTheRighthand7]

Thank you. There's no link between the two movements.

[@loysre]

So Gay rights are more important to recognize, than the racism we still face as African Americans as a whole?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Both matter

[@fatherjamesism5040]

Of course they do have you seen you Billy Porter. Anybody with a disagreement has to move out of his way.

[@SonOfTheRighthand7]

That's exactly how they keep pushing this mess. No comparison at ALL.

[@willyoubeardforme2306]

The are countries were you can be killed legally just for being gay. There is no comparison. Being black is not on the same level as homophobia.

[@iamashleyyvette]

I love this so much. It’s interesting how MLK threw Bayard under the bus because he was scared of the homosexual accusations but he laying it low and spreading it wide with any woman he could while he was “fighting for freedom”.

[@corneilusmcgillicuddy]

Cite your source that Dr. King was fuckin' around on Mrs. King.

[@BlackIce675]

​@corneilusmcgillicuddy they don't care about a straight Black man took a bullet for a real cause. They'd rather ride for other people. LGBTQ and white women.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

Standing up for homosexuality when it's not our culture is a problem.

[@BlackIce675]

@fatherjamesism5040 putting the homosexual agenda before civil rights ( FOR ALL ESPECIALLY STRAIGHT BLACK MEN AND BOYS WHO SUFFER MOST from the system the LGBTQ and feminist whine about) is like putting work before your health. Without the CIVIL RIGHTS FOR ALL not just women and gays, nobody gets NOTHING. ALL THEY GONNA DO IS USE THE SAME PLAY AGAINST THE LGBTQ AND FEMINIST AS THEY DO AGAINST BLACK MEN. AND we'll say " told you ".

[@BlackIce675]

@@fatherjamesism5040 the LGBTQ and feminist are conditionally black. Black on the condition that there's no gay train or feminist train to ride. Why be black when those MAJORITY WHITE GROUPS GET BENIFITS 🤔 They'll be black again if reparations are given and get back to disgraceing MLK and themselves soon after.

[@christianhopley5960]

I always look forward to your videos! Theyre always so insightful

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

thank you for caring and watching. let me know if there's any topics youre interested in

[@fae3821]

41:00 👏🏼Yes I keep seeing this idea that you're Black *first* but all the identities exist at the same time. I get their point it's just unhelpful, unfortunately ppl just act like we don't get it. I'm not lgbtq+ but I notice this a lot. "Lemme get my rights first *then* *maybe* you'll get yours" and there's a fear that Black lgbtq+ & Black women will prioritize something else over Blackness.

[@liveperformances4641]

Love this. Also MLK was born Jan 15th, not the 5

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

thanks for watching, and catching that

[@user-hn2sq4ib5f]

Thank you for looking with honesty and an eye for humanity, at the moments and people that played major parts in the shaping of the world we're working to shape differently

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you for Watching

[@imeakpan]

Wasn't Rustin an informant?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

im still researching that. i think its somewhat up for debate, but it's one of the videos i have planned for down the line

[@PrinceZakariyya]

yess

[@belindauo]

He was. Of course, this video wants to have a different narrative.

[@Royal_Chief_Architect]

Discussions like this help us esoterica realize the possible timelines and the one we got. Yes we won the civil rights movement, but a lot of darkness took over that movement as well, another hidden trauma that needs to be addressed. What other possibilities would we have, timelines would we have met, would Source/God/Universe manifest up for us, if we stayed steadfast to love and compassion for each other?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Yes yes to wanting more possibilities

[@dmcginnis1000]

Thank you for this video. While not everything you presented was new for me, some certainly was. As a white, cis queer person, it is hard not to recognize the racism embedded in the thoughts and ideals of fellow white queer people both in the past and present and how that intertwines in the histories you shared here. Just two things to share: 1) would recommend Quiet by Susan Cain and 2) to the particular focus of this video, while a bit off topic, I find it hard not to discuss the Soviet Union/Cold War (while not unusual historically, it is interesting how they were both a fictional boogeyman and a real terror at the same time).

[@ottabee]

Thank-you so much for another AMAZING sharing. I am truly entranced in the best way possibly as I watch and listen to you. You have quite the way of speaking that I'm very impressed with along with the amount of knowledge I'm learning from you. As a queer person of color, I'm always open to finding a person like you who can create and delivery such complex content I'm receptive to. I feel myself seen, evolve, heal, and passionately need to learn more to be more of a whole human being. I can feel so many different kinds of ancestors shouting, "Y-E-S!!!". Honey, you deliver sacred wisdom in the best way! P.S. I love how you are inherently celebrating QPOC diversity and at the same time decolonizing. Because you also have a focus on mental health (THANK-YOU!) I have two books to recommend for everyone, especially QPOC, they are "Decolonizing Therapy: Oppression, Historical Trauma, and Politicizing Your Practice" by Jennifer Mullan PsyD, and "The Pain We Carry: Healing from Complex PTSD for People of Color" by Natalie Y. Gutierrez.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you so much for watching and I appreciate how much this resonated with you. I will definitely check out those books.!!!

[@Te_thegemini]

Led here by Olay & now I can’t leave. Excellent analysis!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I love Olay!

[@TeeceeMoody]

Great video! Hope you will share your analysis with what’s going on with the WNBA right now. There’s always been a lot of homophobia surrounding the league, and I’ve noticed how those players have been great organizers around social justice and were very resourceful in helping the WNBA survive. They grew the league and gained viewership during the pandemic when more WNBA games were nationally televised. Now those players are being erased like Rustin with the arrival of Caitlin Clark, a straight white girl who has a boyfriend and the media is crediting with single-handedly increasing viewership and saving the league. The media is also playing her against the black rookie Angel Reese, which is another example of racial issues playing out within a homophobic environment. Hope you will share some insight on this topic, and keep up the good work!

[@chaka1370]

You pretty much sums up black queer experience in the black community.

[@mkoh8778]

I get the argument here, but it implies a prioritization of sexuality over race. Certainly it’s one own prerogative of how they want to identify. However, The civil rights era meant way more to Blacks than how they identified sexually. Perhaps some grace can be given to both Rustin and Dr. King on the behalf of fighting for freedom and equality for ALL people.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Perhaps we can just name the fact that MLK folded to state counterinsurgency and threw a comrade under the bus. Seems simple to me

[@JP_Names]

I mean, if you just took out the entire fight for interracial romantic partnerships from the civil rights movement. I imagine "blacks" wouldn't appreciate still being banned legally or through illegitimate means of violençe from marrying or coupling with the love of their life just because they're white. It's like how people say history doesn't repeat it rhymes, the same goes for the struggles of civil rights. I think pretending that gay rights are disconnected from black rights displays a major blind spot to the constant themes of oppression.

[@mkoh8778]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin Rustin was a smart man. If he felt wronged so badly, he could’ve walked away from it all. Or spoke up more publicly when it happened. Fault the man for his own actions. Trying to assign blame to Dr. King, and then compound it with other perceived misdeeds because your argument doesn’t hold enough water, is lame.

[@THIZZAVELI]

​@mkoh8778 on top of all of this, he was a damn agent. He was one of many sent to take out king. This dude is a immigrant troll who is gay first, black second. Just like rusty agent. The truth is, the movement found out about him. That's why they booted him. Ol rusty boy was an agent from the jump. Rusty lied about this whole thing. It was just another ta tactic to ruin king. Back then, when people went off code. They would keep it in house and quietly deal with it. Because they didn't want the opps to see the in fighting. This whole video is about centering homo sexuality smh. Rusty boy wasn't no big factor either. James B was though. He was out, but he was black 1st. He literally pointed out how rusty cared more about sexuality than black empowerment. James B actually noticed how funny style rusty was first. Rusty tried to take james too.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

​@@THIZZAVELI you're right this Caribbean is well aware of what he's doing.

[@nubmaat-reiii4564]

Why don't black lgbtq call out the isms, and phobias from your yt counterparts. That is the biggest concern amongst my gay friends. There were trans and gay slave owners, i dont see how jumping on Dr. King helps. Ive never seen a black American do this.

[@merelymayhem]

i am sitting my butt down with some sewing and mending to do and this will be a good time!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Oh thank you for watching

[@DustSoilStudio]

“Better suited for a gay rights movement than a civil rights movement is laughable considering they’re using his skills and it’s said as if gay rights aren’t civil rights. Smfh

[@merelymayhem]

this video was super informative! and i totally get what you mean with this being applicable nowadays, I can think of things I've seen from with a but of a distance where i am as well in different but associated context you explained everything really well and had a well working amount of context and all of that

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you. I especially appreciate you liking the research

[@OKANjarrod]

I love any content about Bayard but I have no intention of watching Rustin on netflix lol. Very well done! I appreciate the context you bring to this but I always remind myself to give grace as we are looking at it through a 2024 lens. Have you watched the debate between Malcolm and Bayard? Definitely tea on Bayard saying "aht aht" to James speaking; respectability is very on brand with his and MLK's lane of activism. It's such a gag how Hoover stayed trying to out everyone, meanwhile... , isn't that almost always the case... Any chance you'd do videos on Billy Strayhorn or Alvin Ailey?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I've listened to bits of the debate between Malcolm and Bayard. I definitely want to listen to more

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I can add that folks to my list of interesting ppl for sure

[@OKANjarrod]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin 🙏🏾I feel like , outside of writing, we forget how important all the Arts can be in societal transformation/elevation

[@SollieWalker1906]

I think I had more to do with him being an FBI informant than with him being a homosexual. No one in the movement had an issue with James Baldwin.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Where was it admitted that Rustin was in an informant? I know there's an article about that accusation, and that the accusation has been contested.

[@_Spicymorenita]

So if you REALLY think no one had a problem with James Baldwin , my only question is would you mind experiencing what Baldwin or Rustin ! Ijs , if you really think it’s no issue

[@steve9833]

His only usefulness was sleeping with his white daddy. He was against the civil rights movement and no ones unsung hero.

[@BmoreAkuma]

Yes folks had an "issue" with Baldwin and his homo sexuality but he certainly wasn't a Zionist snitch like Rustin​@@_Spicymorenita

[@ARMX19]

James Baldwin focused on dealing with WS...he new he was Black before anything.

[@abbottcole7374]

Rustin was a plant.

[@MsXenyy1]

How?

[@allisonblount8960]

Bayard Rustin was caught with minors and arrested for sexual assault. At least king was with legal adult women even though it was adultery. Also people don't have to accept your sexual preferences because that's what you're into.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

That's why the Black America should never be aligned with tethers and homosexual.

[@grahamjones5400]

I used to work as a trucking company dispatcher, how Bayard Rustin organized the March on Washington is just amazing 😮!! I mean like WHOA!!🫨 THANKS FOR MAKING THE EFFORT TO CREATE THIS VIDEO.

[@NotZay]

Looking forward to this, also hope this addresses Rustin being a traitor of the highest order as an agent.

[@NotZay]

This was made some good points

[@Seánasadventure]

I’m looking at these comments and I’m officially a fan of you Prince Shakur (fire name btw) You are literally “telling it like it is” and black people, of all people, are pushing back. I swear it takes so much strength to be black in America sometimes.

[@papi_sativa]

Damn bro You be posting some real shit 💯

[@annieothername]

Absolutely love your work, thank you! Despite movements demanding great social change, I have found few too careful about repurposing social order - who “matters” more instead of focusing on the actual insight shared, and experience in their life and organizing. Literally the first organizing group I was in was mostly white cismen in their thirties. And we dissolved once we asked them to consider how late meetings are held and how young femmes are walking home alone at there end. We just suggested another meeting time, and it uncovered a lot of the masculine language you mentioned; that they as men would never have us meet somewhere dangerous, that we as women also must be acutely aware of the inherent danger of our work. Like duh? Not to mention I and two others were the only black people in the org despite us organizing in a black city. It was brutal and goes to show the social change needed WITHIN an org/community before we do any kind of advocacy work. What Dr Rev King did was homophobic because not only did HE not want to be perceived queer but, dude literally has a wife and children like it’s a false binary for sure queer people can have children and family structures that appear heteronormative…but idk if it’s it even true that he worried people would think he was gay. I think it was damaging enough simply being associated - as colleagues, friends, as equals, to queer people! I cannot hold space or much grace for prominent organizers who get so tactical that they abandon our community members. It’s always a nasty order and like you said, aligns us much more with the state than our radical roots. A pleasure as always to yap in your comments lol, thank you for sharing your thoughts and research

[@MaryWambui-nt9fv]

Watching fr kenya big up bro ❤❤🇰🇪

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Mad love

[@desareadoodles9446]

It just started the video but I just assume since he was a pastor that he was homophobic?! - can’t wait to watch the rest? ❤

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

curious what you'll think by the end of the vid

[@SagesseNoir]

Unfortunately, Bayard Rustin betrayed all of us as a CIA agent

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Where's the proof?

[@jonellsmith2943]

That was properganda that was pushed by J Edgar Hoover of the FBI......He said MLK was a communist

[@Gashshiningstar]

That was disproven

[@Bhgh-kq6qc]

@@Gashshiningstarplease explain omg

[@benjamintaylor4402]

Martin Luther did NOTHING wrong to Bayar. Dude, you definitely have that same "spirit" as Bayard!!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Is spirit code for you being homophobic?

[@reefreef1866]

Dr.King did not BETRAY ANYONE! How dare you disrespect one of the greatest leaders in human history! If it were not for Dr. King you would not enjoy the freedoms that you have today!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

"If it were not for the United States Army I would not have a land that I would feel so securely occupying, disrespecting and exploiting the resources of people that were colonized displaced and face all forms of terrorism that the state has manufactured to deem itself worthy" that's how u sound, apologizer type beat

[@fatherjamesism5040]

He's a Caribbean homosexual now you know who our adversaries are FBA. Not accurately to their behavior.

[@gnostalgic]

Thank you for shedding light on this topic!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Glad it was helpful!

[@willyoubeardforme2306]

It should be pointed out that actor Marlon Brando, who was bisexual, was in attendance at the March on Washington. Paul Newman and Sammy Davis Jr. (supposedly bisexual) were there too. I'm not sure how close of a friendship King had with Brando or if he was aware of Brando's bisexuality. Would King have thrown Brando under the bus too, or was his celebrity influence so great that he was willing to ignore his bisexuality?

[@othellosson1621]

This was a very crucial point in Black American /African American history. I’m glad they you brought this point up because it highlights the fact that the two movements are separate movements. No matter how hard the 🏳️‍🌈 attempts to parasitically attach itself to and co-opt it. This remains problematic for its destabilization effect of our body politic. However, it was clearly rejected and I’m glad you highlighted it so that there can be a clear delineation. In doing so, the assault on our history being taught can be properly neutralized. It is clearly NOT a part of our natural culture, and why AFRICAN countries abhor it so. It is an assimilation of Greek culture gleaned from Eurocentric domination, and the inability of its adherents to resist the perpetuation of white supremacy. Thereby, being a mechanism that assists in maintaining the status quo!

[@weaktoad]

Sent here by FD Signifier. Excellent video

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you!!

[@southernphunk]

Bayard knew if his sexuality was exposed it would have had an impact on the efficacy of his role in the movement... King did accept him and praised him for all his contributions

[@dre_withwithout]

The one most egregious things Bayard did was found BASIC(BLACK AMERICANS TO SUPPORT ISRAEL COMMITTEE) .. But him and A. Phillip Randolph starting BASIC is a whole other issue in and of itself that is a discussion. I think Bayard from learning about him fits the mold of a lot of people in the civil rights movement. They seem to have just wanted to be part of the reindeer games. It is telling that a lot of prominent people during the movement who didn’t fit that mold went to Europe for a bit: Baldwin, Robeson and the like. I think we look at the civil rights movement sometimes through rose colored liberated glasses. But some folk just wanted in on the reindeer games. But did he do great things, YES. The fact that his sexuality landed him in jail on a “moral charge” is wild… THAT WAS IN 1953😂.. people are weird

[@RasheedGazzi]

I tried to give this a chance but it's just devisive for black people.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Divisive? Meaning complex?

[@RasheedGazzi]

@@PrinceShakurKZbinYou could use that term if you like, but I stand by what I said. Good luck with your channel though brother.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

​@@RasheedGazziyou called him brother like he doesn't stand with his white gay brothers first lol.

[@RasheedGazzi]

@@fatherjamesism5040 You know what you might be right and that would be a shame.

[@locsrulewomen]

I love your take on everything in this video. But after listening all the way to the end I would say that MLK was not hom0phobic. It sounds like he was thinking of the bigger picture of the movement. We have to be honest that if that had gotten out it could have dismantled what they were trying to achieve. He was hired and accepted until it became a situation where it could have destroyed what they all worked hard to achieve.

[@marvinrichards8633]

I hear this retort a lot but as was presented in the video, the biggest threat or pieces of information the state had to try and discredit the movement centered around MLK's affairs. I would argue, those same affairs still loom over MLK's legacy today, as many previously unreleased FBI recordings will be released to the general public in 2027. And there is so much speculation about a potential darker side to King being revealed. All that to say, King and some of these same advisors (Powell and gang), were engaging in these sexual escapades/affairs while on the road with MLK. But by default of those acts being straight, they let their guard down on how their own actions were the threat to the movement. Placing way too much emphasis on Rustin being gay, when it is the aformentioned behavior all up and through Cointelpro. And yet, despite these human flaws, wanting to view MLK, flaws and all, with a holistic lens is propped up. Unfortunately, that same holistic/unconditional love was not extended to Rustin and is not extended to Black Queer people today. Our very existence is considered part of some damn "agenda." Or because of the ongoing politics of respectability, our contributions are erased and humanity denied.

[@mikeymullins5305]

hey, just because you put the quotes on screen, doesn't mean you're not plagarizing. for the first four minutes, you did not read a word of your own writing. that's not on. dissapionted.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Your comment is boring me

[@phosda]

i never imagined i'd hear cointelpro out of the mouth of someone under the age of thirty ever again. when i was teaching, another life ago, my class was called american dissidents, and i don't think you have any business calling yourself american unless and until you are one, that you've rattled the cockles of a once was academic's heart, and i count you amongst the beautifullest of persons for it, all the more so as the mother of a girl eighteen months away from university.

[@moralfortitude...2217]

wasnt the only one betrayed gay or not...🤨

[@jazo85]

in the 1980s bayard rustin said blacks are no longer oppressed and the prominent importance is on the gay struggle. why do you overstate this man’s ideology?

[@Seánasadventure]

I love mlk, i could rant on and on about how amazing the man was and how we don’t focus enough on some of his more controversial beliefs that could absolutely help the struggle today, but even before i knew i was trans i thought it was low key obvious that he was homophonic

[@Darren-bd6fg]

Listen gay or straight there is no justification for getting drunk acting a fool and creating more problems that's the reality.

[@aleco444]

These comments are bird brains😭

[@TheSapphireLeo]

Careful with the speciesist animal analogies, too and it is ignorance, and mental health is not an excuse for such?

[@georgetrusty7696]

The dude was a CIA operative enough said

[@TWILS02119]

Dear everyone who visits here. Read a book.

[@waynejacksongalloway3768]

How unfortunate that Ruston was eliminated from doing his ultimate good even though he continued to fight anyway, he could but to try to expect people of that time. To be open minded is just like us trying to expect people of this time. To be open minded to our trans brothers and sisters It’s an uphill battle. It’s never ever easy and most of the time it’s not pretty either. .

[@fatherjamesism5040]

This is going to sound like it's in bad faith but it must be asked even though I know it will not receive an answer. How does homosexuality help the black community?

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

How does it hurt it? Do you know any gay black people?

[@fatherjamesism5040]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin yeah I served with a gay black man never in combat only in Garrison. He left work, leaving us a man down for 2 weeks just so he can go get married to his husband in California just for the supreme Court to rule same-sex marriages legal and he didn't need to leave in the first place. Now I understand you more than likely was not in the military so my example probably doesn't matter to you but scale that up. I didn't get married until I got out of the army because it was more important for me to serve my country rather than my personal interest.

[@pacmiller7564]

Homosexuality doesn't serve the black community whatsoever this is just the delineation mindset that the lgbt and feminism movement introduced in the black power movement.

[@TreeHairedGingerAle]

​​@@pacmiller7564 Homosexuality (and all the other types of genders, sexual orientations, and relationship orientations) serve ALL of humanity; in the same way that different skin tones, hair textures, phenotypes, neurodiversity types, body types, and sleep schedules do... They make humanity diverse. They provide a dazzling array of ways of living and being, that increase the overall adaptability of the species: increasing our capabilities to survive, Live, and thrive. Diversity is how humans were able to survive and arise from the 'might makes right', 'nature red in tooth and claw' dynamics of evolution. Diverse people working together to withstand (and reverse!) all kinds of environmental dangers is _why_ we are alive today! Hate diversity, try to destroy diversity that is doing no harm; and we all may as well return to being thoughtless apes eternally trapped in authoritarian troupe structures lorded over by the biggest and strongest tyrant. It is nonsensical, and not where I'd want future humans to end up: as pseudo-apes, rather than truly creative, caring, and collaborative, full human beings.

[@TreyMessiah95]

I love Martin Luther King Even MORE. STOP COMPARING BEING GAY TO BEING BLACK....

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

You seem confused

[@Seánasadventure]

Being black is gay my brother. Marginalized - check Suppressed history- check Religion used both for and against -check Using terms like family, brother and sister- check Famous protest, signs, iconography- check Style- check Reclaiming bigoted terms and using them as terms of endearment- check Face it Black is gay, be proud. 👊🏽 🏳️‍⚧️ 🌈

[@ladkatta]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin looks like the pot is calling black.

[@ladkatta]

@@Seánasadventure Being gay is a content of character sir-ma'am, nonsis or whatever you identify with. Unmarginalized - check Suppress HIStory- check Religion both used and condemned -check Using terms like hate, and confused- check Famous protest, legislation, people- check Life style- check Reclaiming terms of contempt and using them as terms of endearment- check Face it Gay is hypocrisy, be humble. "I look to a day when people WILL not BE JUDGED BY the color of their skin, but by THE CONTENT OF THEIR CHARCTER." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

[@Seánasadventure]

@@ladkatta being gay is a content of character, it must be a good one. ❤️ “I look to the day when people WILL not BE JUDGED BY the color of their skin but by THE PRIVATES THEY HAVE AND THE NO-NOS THEY PLAY WITH” -random crazy KZbin commenter

[@SaniBravo]

You clowns better stop disrespecting Dr King

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

🥱

[@SBEtherwave]

Go fight for our reparations.

[@FinickyVoid]

Another incredible video

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you.

[@dre_withwithout]

Adam Clayton Powell: “If you march on Washington you gay.” MLK: “No I’m not.”

[@N8ThaGr8r]

I liked the video but one thing the auido is not solo ear bud friendly and makes it hard to follow as the sound just cuts out once in a while

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I had some editing things to work through

[@ready7248]

0:13 I mean It would make sense, he was Christian.

[@BlackIce675]

I see a lot OF HATFUL ABUSIVE COMMENTS ABOUT MLK AND OTHER STRAIGHT BLACK MEN. I better report to ZADDY 👨

[@pacmiller7564]

😂

[@uriahhammock3731]

Thank you for sharing your experiences, it helps

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

thank you for watching

[@cn9398]

Great vid!!!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thank you

[@shonettehintzen5310]

Baynard used to cover for dr.king and his entourage because of all his extramartial affairs. Baynard wanted to protect dr.kings image and reputation even though he eventually got thrown under the bus. The black gays and black women are all ways putting themselves last for black men.

[@maxwaller2055]

😢 😭 😿 *¡since 1969 when Max Waller as Max Rafael Waller was 4 years young - too many people, and organizations, and institutions along with family-members and non-family-members including HimSelf is how and why life is too complex and too complicated!* 😢 😭 😿 2:22 pm Pacific DayLight Savings Time on Monday, 3 June 2024 leap year 😢 😭 😿

[@gws259]

Yea no bayad issue was tryna he tried co opt the movement for life style purposes than ppl.an Montgomery hard nothing to do with Rosa but another lady civil still hasn't won

[@ziiontheconqueror]

I need you to learn how to read the words that are in front of you. There have been a few times in this video that you have said words that were not written on the screen.For example you said normal when the word is nominal which means small

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Yawn

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

So controlling and condescending

[@ziiontheconqueror]

@PrinceShakurKZbin thanks If that's all you took away from this got it 👍 🙂 👌🏾 Continue in your mediocrity

[@sparklefairy34]

@@PrinceShakurKZbinthat’s actually really important to do if you want disabled people to follow along with your videos. I don’t think this person wants to belittle or discredit you. They just want you to know that saying exactly what’s on the subtitles is important for those with hearing impaired or any other disorder that affects their ability to hear. If you say something that’s not in the subtitles you are basically giving hearing-abled people a separate video than the hearing impaired. I hope you’re willing to take this in and be more understanding next time. Thank you.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

@@sparklefairy34 that's helpful context. i appreciate you nothing that. fully heard.

[@CatreliaMagee-sn1gd]

Why don't Gays speak about Rosa Parks who is also an LGBTQP gay person? Why aren't Gays sharing her life as a gay civil rights activist?

[@EclecticPotpourri]

Black Americans aka Black or are you using Black as race to be melanin skin to refer to African descent people?

[@CampingWithCats]

Sub-Saharans freed by the American revolution or Civil War. Real history that they try to avoid in schools I know.

[@jonellsmith2943]

Don't forget that he was a Quacker they believed in non violence as well

[@dre_withwithout]

The intersections .. all the intersections..

[@kevinroby2629]

He just said you need to be woke

[@janaecatt2407]

It would’ve been dangerous for them to continue working together if that news would’ve become public knowledge because back then being queer was not at all acceptable definitely not in a public forum . Martin was able to back him up as long as Martin was not insinuated in his lifestyle, but it would’ve been career suicide for Martin pastor a preacher, a leader with a wife and children to be outed as gay true or false. That would’ve been the death of the movement because People already like to diminish and dilute things in order to sweep them under the rug and he didn’t wanna give it a real reason. I think it was more important to him for it to be OK for us to be black and alive and then we could get more specific later . Then we were being killed just for being black and alive. we can’t use 2020 and beyond eyes to look back 60 years or 50 years and think that we are seeing things any better because we don’t know what the circumstances were of life back then because we didn’t live back then so the second-guessing is ridiculous. All we can do is discuss the fact that these things did Happen Without a take on it because we didn’t walk those path we didn’t have to maneuver that world. It was very different than this one. We actually was talked about back then.

[@user-up6wj2gh7u]

I appreciate this video snd its content. Consider this my friend: Everything happens in stages. And everything cant be solved or resolved at one time. When you realize something other people dont it is unfair to others to insist they understand something they are not ready to understand. Give it time. Be patient. If your cause is just and right you will eventually win.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

I'm too much of cynic to believe "good will just win". History and study of marginalized movements tells us otherwise. Progress is achieved through study, intention and suffering, not believing things will work out. We must articulate a liberatory process

[@fatherjamesism5040]

You will learn homosexuals will put their sexual orientation before our race.

[@OneFootNFront]

All 📠 No 🧢. Excellent video to kick off Pride ✊🏾

[@fatherjamesism5040]

Pride month AKA White History month.

[@OneFootNFront]

@@fatherjamesism5040 I don’t understand. There’s only queer yt people?

[@fatherjamesism5040]

@@OneFootNFront lmao sure

[@OneFootNFront]

@@fatherjamesism5040 you actually seem unsure.

[@fatherjamesism5040]

@@OneFootNFront no you're unaware on my true meaning or you're pretending to be that naive.

[@elleinthea1678]

Good stuff!!!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

Thanks!

[@Investigator86]

41:00 thank you 🙏🏽

[@idreadFell365]

Sucks to hear it

[@mx.walrus]

💪💪💪

[@belindauo]

Rustin was an FBI informant. No need for this video. Peace.

[@makeitmakesense2616]

0:09 I mean you being messy in these streets .......however it needs to be said. It just wasn't bout to be me. Cause that MAGA gonna twist your words be ready. But your work will be appreciated later. But whew chhhhiillleee.....the Whyte maga gays......... chhhhiillleee I believe I know your intentions for our people behind your content. And I greatly appreciate the content and the research and thought you put into them. But baby.......these internets is wild

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

looking to tell the truth and dig more into queer history as a queer person and organizer and artist. youtube is just one way to learn for me

[@henryjackson1858]

Thanks!

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

thank you!

[@tananario23]

“Hidden”? Oh, honey. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@saint_silver]

also Rustin sucks

[@Leo82870]

Easy to say when you organizing the people from the 🛋️🥔

[@saint_silver]

you can recognize his work and that he got screwed and also say that he had terrible regressive politics​@@Leo82870

[@pacmiller7564]

You Tethers and bussy boys could never take away from MLKs greatness try as you might.

[@TreeHairedGingerAle]

Andrewism has a great video called "Rethinking the Family" that I'd say dovetails well with this. The purpose of the whole, "I as a Black man protect my woman, my child" thing is to present an image of family life that leans into the patriarchal norms that help support colonization and capitalism. By standardizing and actively ENFORCING this "traditional" vision of the "family unit" -- which is easily tracked, manipulated, and used by state and corporate entities in order to maintain the current power structures -- it really was and is Black activist folk saying, 'Look! We'll play ball the same way you yt people do. We ultimately won't unravel your power structures. Just give us our "rights" within them.'... Which is sad, because honestly, even common yt folk don't have much under these structures other than the fake vanity points and fake freedoms that yt supremacy and class offers them. Us begging to play by these ridiculous "rules" that humanity wasn't using in the first place -- these same rules which are causing such completely unnecessary misery and environmental devastation across the globe -- is pitiable. [ 💀I've started to think of the act of offering to play by colonial rules and norms in order to gain reforms -- the act of persecuting other marginalized people in the way you were persecuted at Standing Rock -- as, "Measuring your freedom with King Charles the I's dick". Which is to say, that a person who is in the struggle, and yet is doing these things to their fellow comrades, has not yet realized that what we are fighting are the kyriarchy-enforcing behaviors and the intergenerational curses which were long ago falsely codified into the "traditions" of yt common folk: behaviors structured and re-enacted and handed down from those _original_ european oppressors (the conquerors and monarchs, and later on, the merchants behind the 'industrial "revolution"'), who manipulated and destroyed The Diggers, and drove common yt folk from their common lands, and set the world up on a path to destruction for the sake of their ridiculous egos.... And that, to me, is anti-radical. Because now, that person, who is offering by dint their behaviors to trade their obeisance to those norms for 'freedom' is not attacking "the root of our problems"...they're attacking a branch or a leaf on the invasive tree of oppression, ignoring even the trunk! ]

[@kngbusy548]

Shut up. Disagreeing with a choice is not hate.

[@PrinceShakurYoutube]

you sound homophobic too!

[@kngbusy548]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin I disagree with the lifestyle. To center identity behind sex is silly. The majority of life is not spent having sex. Rustin was a traitor to the Black Power movement and you are intentionally distorting the facts to smear King. You are either dumb or evil or both.

[@reefreef1866]

@@PrinceShakurKZbin A phobia is having a FEAR of something! No one is AFRAID OF HOMOSEXUALS!