How Much Can You Recharge an EV By Driving It Down a Mountain?

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[@Bryan46162]

it would be interesting to repeat this test at a very low state of charge in your pack. Batteries at high states of charge cannot accept high rates of current... hence why most folks only charge to 80% and take off. Using the motor as a generator can create a lot of current. With such a small pack on that mini and at over 80% state of charge, the battery may simply not been able to accept that much power, whereas at a low state of charge, it may have been able to capture more.

[@PinkFZeppelin]

Not true for lithium batteries. Not sure the chemistry of this car.

[@henryzachary7489]

My wife just bought a Mini SE. It is the most fun to drive of any of these cars. Fast, handles great. We use it pretty regularly for trips into NYC which is a round trip of about 80+ miles. Works great for that, and for getting around in Manhattan. I rate the Mini SE an A+

[@laloajuria4678]

great to hear.

[@Chrisb8s]

That’s awesome

[@sharonbraselton3135]

80 mioes out of 110 30 ilevreser captiy

[@benmcmillan8366]

I wonder if you were down in the 20-50 % range of the battery if the regen would have charged the battery more instead of being up in the 80% range?

[@James-cq9dp]

he didnt use his breaks at all so that wouldnt make a difference. him not using his breaks implies the regen was sufficient to slow him down the hill

[@-Jethro-]

I’m glad you talked about charging from a regular household outlet (aka Level 1 charging). One clarification: It doesn’t matter how big your battery is. As long as your daily commute is shorter than about 40 miles, you can recover that much range over night in any EV. I like to think about charge rates in MPH: A typical EV will charge at 4MPH on a standard 120V outlet. For comparison, using a dedicated high current 240V outlet, most of today’s EVs will charge at 16 to 40MPH. Of course the upcoming full sized EV trucks and SUVs (Rivian, F150, Hummer) will be much less efficient. Charge rates in MPH should be about half. Charging these on a 120V outlet may be as slow as 2 MPH. Ouch.

[@ALMX5DP]

The caveat to that is an owner needs to have a place to charge every day. Those living in apartments, condos or more dense urban areas may not have that ability (at least on a regular basis).

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@ALMX5DP Or renting, like a hell of a lot of people do. You can't just go modifying your landlords house.

[@andrewroberts1787]

@@Robert-cu9bm A good point. I asked my landlord if I could pay myself to have a NEMA 14-50 socket installed in the garage. I even agree to use their electrician. They said fine, it's something they can advertise about the house when looking for a new tenant. Cost me $400. Renewed my lease another year since so the cost sits fine with me.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@andrewroberts1787 That's alright when it works... How many will say ok then not renew your lease. They'll just up the price and get new tenants with your EV charger as a selling point for the higher price.

[@andrewroberts1787]

@@Robert-cu9bm I'm not saying everyone will have the same experience. Based on other interactions most ppl know what kind of landlord they have. I was confident mine would be fine based on their willingness to fix broken stuff and do it right and not cheapen out. But just as you can get different quality of tenants you can get different quality of landlords indeed. Edit: For clarity I didn't fit a charger, just a 240v 50A socket to plug one in. The charger will leav with me.

[@zefram47]

I drove my MINI SE up to Echo Lake on Squaw Pass, at 10k feet. I got to Echo Lake with 50% SoC, drove back down through Idaho Springs and got back to Golden with 50% SoC. I netted 5.1 mi/kWh on that trip, 95 miles and 40% SoC remaining when I got home.

[@tompatton2086]

Wow, that's outstanding. What drive mode? Normal? Green? Green+?

[@zefram47]

@@tompatton2086 daily driving I stay in Green, but only because I prefer the throttle mapping in that mode. In the canyons I typically drive in Sport because it tightens up the steering a bit.

[@marthareyes8891]

Back in August 2021 after watching your videos on the MINI SE I put my down payment received it in December 2021 and I am loving my first electric car and MINI!! I have been charging at home on a level 1 and it's been fine just to drive home to work with some extra errands! The range has not been an issue in Dallas, TX!! I ♥️ my MINI collection MINI Cooper SE!! Thank you TFL!

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Buy it

[@mowcowbell]

I attempted a similar test in my Honda Clarity PHEV by driving up Mt Scott in the Wichita Mtns Wildlife Refuge. Used about 25% of my battery going to the top, but only regen'd about 12.5% going back down. Not great, but hey it's free electricity.

[@naughtysauce4323]

Just did the same on my Clarity, took about 5 miles of energy to get up a grade and got about 2 miles back on the way down. Did you do it on EV only and how many bars of regen did you use?

[@mowcowbell]

@@naughtysauce4323 EV only and I used full regen on the left paddle.

[@tristanjones7735]

The regen braking worked better than you thought. If we assume that you were at 83% charge after a total of twice the uphill distance, that means you only used 5% of charge to go 7 miles. That puts you at about 200watt hour per mile which is probably only a little bit more than driving that car on a flat road at 40mph for 7 miles.

[@Jet_Pilot525]

I rented a BMW i3 in Denver last year and took it on a road trip. We took it up to mile 13 of Pike's Peak. We left there with 7 miles of range and when we arrived in Manitou Springs we had regenerated to I think 35 or so miles. Also the regen made coming down the mountain stress free. It was that experience that really made me fall in love with EVs!

[@jeffreff2000]

Thank you for using proper terminology in this video! So many journalists just talk about range and estimated miles lost when when doing consumption tests like this. Battery percentages and kilowatt hours used is are a much better representation of energy consumed and allows for proper comparison amongst other EVs.

[@typxxilps]

7 mls with 5% SOC equals 140 mls of range so it turned to be out like an average ride on flat terrain.. 5% means 1,5 kWh and therefore a 13,3 kWh / hkm consumption figure. Not bad for winter temperature. We usually calculate a 2/3 or 70% regeneration factor so you will not get back everything you spent to accelerate. Therefore best option for a long range is gliding or rolling until you recognice you have to stop at a red light or crossing cause that is the moment to regen everything you can. Regen always on is convenient but you will loose at least 1 / 3 of the energy from the wheel to the battery. Make the best out of the worse and glide as long as you can cause that way you use 100% of the invested energy. Only if you need to decelerate push the regen but only as much that you come to a halt on the lane and not too early cause then you will have to push the gas pedal again.

[@stupid8911]

Nice work, Team. I can appreciate the testing, and an excellent point at the end about collecting the energy versus it going to waste.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

Why was the dash screen partly blurred out?

[@jordancook1668]

This is a good demonstration that hopefully will clear up some confusion I hear often about regen. Many people talk about regen as though it is a means of generating range. They think that any drive that includes a lot of regen time will give them extra range vs one without. But of course, any energy regenerated was first consumed, so the total will never exceed what you start with. Indeed, this test shows it won’t even come close to what you start with, let alone exceed. Moreover, a drive that includes regen only does so because there was extra consumption preceding it…you have to go up a hill before you can go down. So regen actually indicates an overall higher consumption, not a reduction. The result? Driving on flat ground will always provide the most range overall. In other words, the least amount of regen, the most range. Something for nothing didn’t become a thing even in the age of EV. But EV fans need not be discouraged because no doubt about it, regen is all about loss reduction. Sure, you consume more energy overall in situations with high regen, but much less than if you didn’t regen. Not an option on gas and diesel where every single BTU, kWh, or whatever unit you want to use is lost forever. At least you get some back with EV (hybrid too for that matter). And that’s very cool. Most EVs and hybrids will never need brake pads for the life of the vehicle. Imagine all the energy needed to grind away that pad material that is instead put back in to the battery. Not bad at all.

[@GasMaster281]

This is not the type of situation I would run into much here in OK, but the kids and I took a road trip to Estes Park a few months ago in our Rav4 Prime. At the top of Pike's Peak my EV range was 0, but by the time I got to the bottom (US-24) I had 24 miles of EV range. Also, at the Trail Ridge Road Summit I had 0 EV range, but 21 miles later in Estes Park I had an EV range of 15. It would be nice to take the EV Mini on a more extreme Regen test up one of these two roads. Currently I have driven 2000 miles since I last filled my gas tank, and with a 240v Level two charger I estimate about 87% of my driving has been EV.

[@jeffjaje5568]

I have a plug in hybrid - when at the highest point in the Smokey Mountains (Clingmans dome) and a nearly depleted battery, I was at about 2/3rds battery (of a 9KW battery) from regeneration when I left the park and headed into Gatlinburg. Fun times.

[@USUG0]

teslabjorn recently did the same on the steepest road in Thailand on a MG ZS-EV and M3LR, recouping 46% and 44%, respectively. on 3.5 miles and no canbus accurate readings, rounding errors are likely too high to have an accurate measurement

[@jamesm7642]

When I used to commute on the 405 with my Fiat 500e, if I had a large SUV or a truck in front of me, my range would improve. Great little car, but only about 90 mile range so every bit helped.

[@Olemarkush]

Me and my gf drove my MINI Cooper SE 2022 model from Bergen, Norway all the way up to Trondheim, Norway. Sleeping in the back of the car behind a charging station over night, in -30° hehe. Crossing mountains 2500m above sea level on our almost 700km roadtrip, with our dog. Some nerwrecking km-hunts, but alot of fun!

[@tonys9413]

Take away here is that if you drive on flat terrain, sailing driving does not cost you much in energy recovery. I prefer zero regen driving on flat surfaces. In downhill driving, regen is helpful in controlling the car.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

It's more efficient to have no regen on motorway driving.

[@Kimbrough87]

@@Robert-cu9bm how?

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@Kimbrough87 Because it takes more energy to speed up that you can regen. With regen on you slow down more that if you coasted. So then you have to get back up 5mph rather than 2mph as a example.

[@Kimbrough87]

@@Robert-cu9bm OK but what if I use cruise control when I’m on the motorway and have regen on?

[@myaccount__7269]

@@Kimbrough87 that is bad. Need to coast more

[@Dryloch]

Just got back from Sugar Mountain NC. Going downhill on the way back my Pacifica Hybrid picked up about 25% battery on that section. It was insane.

[@whodatcatt]

You should finish the test by driving the same number of miles on a flat surface on the same days, same conditions in an out and back course of course and then compare that to the effects of the hill climb and descent. Also since the distance is so small a few laps would make things more accurate.

[@jeffreff2000]

Down hill speed along with the grade can make a big difference in the regen amount. You could have a less steep grade and regen a higher amount simply traveling at a higher speed. Of course this is still a good test because presumably they went up the hill at the same speed they went down.

[@barryw9473]

Entropic losses are inevitable. I rely on regen to add ~40 miles of range to my e-Golf coming down a mile high peak, but I still have to be very gentle on the friction brakes to stretch the range.

[@nberkel]

Obvious outcome but love seeing it still...Side note you're really making me want to order a Cooper SE! I noticed yours is has black exterior accents and black interior ceiling, but the mixed seats. Is it the signature plus or iconic trim?

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Buy it. 110 mile. Rang. Tesa. Cells 127 mierange

[@bman11111]

It would be cool if you did a regen comparison among electric cars like you do with the ike towing.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Good idear

[@alexkarout1586]

A good video, I was hoping to see another comparison with the regen off

[@hemingwaybromfield3722]

It would have been nice to see no or little regen as a control, and show the average speed going up and down, to see how efficent the regen actually is. Also, some might be disappointed by the amount of energy put back into the battery, keep in mind that most of that gravitational energy is propeling the car forward and not going into the battery. The sum efficiency of going up and down is 1.5 kw in 7 miles, or ~ 210 wh/mile. Beats the epa city rating! ~ 280 wh/mile. Pretty efficient!

[@dollarzUS]

Heck yeah I was searching for one for years now

[@hoffmantnt]

would it be different if the battery was at a lower state of charge?

[@wettenFTW]

Thanks very much for this test! I've always wondered if it's basically possible to have infinite range by constantly going up and down a hill 😅 But I still have one question: where your brake lights on while driving down the hill? Technically you were always braking

[@graemejohnson9025]

Mate that is the Con about electric cars.. Even though he isn't touching the brakes, the electronics in the car are.. re gen is by electric motor and the brakes.. oh the Noddy in the Nissan in front, instead of using brakes, change down a couple of gears and let the engine slow him down.. why can't American's drive?

[@wunderkind56]

Absolutely right. My petrol car will generate 25% of the fuel it uses going up a hill if I shift properly going down a hill.

[@brianm5753]

@@graemejohnson9025 personally i keep touching brakes on long down hills until they start to fade, thats when i use engine braking. replacing pads is cheap and easy. replacing an engine isn't. engine braking puts stress on engine, trans and clutch and i think imo its most suitable for light sports cars and motorcycles

[@brianm5753]

@@graemejohnson9025 also engine braking works best at higher speeds like over 50mph and as you can see that was a windy road so brakes were kinda needed

[@absolute_abundance]

You have not touch the front or rear brakes ! What do mean ? You have the extra pedal for rear as in individual?

[@timmikep1978]

Creatively useful information!

[@basscheffers]

The science behind this is very simple; it takes 10 Newton-Meter to lift 1 kg 1 meter. So take the altitude difference x weight x 10 and divide by 3,600,000 to get kWh. That’s the “gravity energy” you have transferred from the battery. Add 15% to account for drivetrain losses. That’s how much you take out of the battery to do it. This is the energy you need ON TOP OF what you would use compared to driving the distance on a flat road. Now on the way down, this energy is primarily used to drive the car forward! Whatever isn’t used for that gets regenerated at a loss of maybe 25%. (Drive train losses plus charging losses) That’s why you’ll never get close to getting everything back. Simple math! :)

[@cabinboybp1]

Towing behind an RV or a F150. Could you regen it or is it better for drag to put it on a trailer and plug the car to the tow vehicle to regen through the charger

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Do boat hyred eltric rv

[@harleyrobertson6746]

I love those wheels, looking like a English electric plug. Coincidentally the British have a higher wall mains outlet voltage at 230v compared to your 110v BUT the Americans still have a higher rate of casualties from mains power because you guys don't have a switch to turn off the mains plug next to the outlet

[@psmh4]

Nice review, too bad they do not give an option for a larger battery pack for those who would like a greater range and are willing to pay extra for this?

[@shankarbalan3813]

This is extremely informative. Enjoyed this learning. More so because this is a Mini Cooper….

[@manuelvpr]

It is fairly logical why this is. Manufacturers do know that driving involves regular acceleration and deceleration that is just how it is. When they rate the battery pack range they include the range that is going to be regenerated. A battery pack like this one of around 30Kwh will get around 4 miler per Kwh, that translates to 120 miles, Mini claims 114 miles which is a 2% adjustment. In reality the car can travel that 2% but it will do so on restricted speed and at the lowest battery threshold which impacts negatively in the battery life. This said. The battery will give around 80 to 90 miles of range without regenaration and the rest 30 to 40 miles would be added by regeneration, so for about each 4 miles, 1 mile would be regenerated. Manufacturers do not explain this to its customers, but from experience, having driven several regular EVs (not Tesla), this is how they behave.

[@roguedogx]

6:43 so if I had to guess, based on some "back of the envelope calculations", I would bet you should get about half of what you used on the way up back.

[@abel5925]

I drove about 600+ miles from Denver to st George area in utah in a Prius plug in. It was about $35 of gas

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Good foruou

[@llcooljay66]

With both directions factored what is the miles per kWh

[@anzew88]

Go more scientific! Get an OBD reading of the battery kWh, measure how much you use uphill and how much Regen back down, do it at lower SOC, around 60% or 50% at the bottom. Don't use HVAC and repeat the thing. My experience on steep overpasses with low speeds in 1st gen Leaf are way better. I was usually regening back down the hill about half of the kWh used to go uphil. Which is great! And figuring distance driven vs. kWh used for the trip up and back down the hill, the "milage" was actually comparable to driving the same distance on the flat road. Leaf can be read beautifully with the Leaf Spy app and you can see many details from all the el. users to the kWh, temps and everything. Try again in more detail

[@khusrum]

Curious what the results would be with a Tesla… also… any idea of comparison of the carbon footprint of a ICE vehicle vs a BEV of you live in mountainous areas. Most published comparisons are for normal driving relatively flat… I think the gap between BEV and ICE would be even larger.. thoughts?

[@ccoedo808]

I wish you could do a race to see who charges more

[@Tethys213]

Why the music in the background? This channel insists on this far too often.

[@QuietStormX]

Drive it around all day and week then report and see how much use and regen?

[@nodak81]

I drive 100 miles every day around Boston and that's not counting the possible hours I spend barely moving in bumper-to-bumper traffic with the A/C or heat blasting. I love the idea of EV cars but 100 miles of range is not nearly enough for my purposes. In fact not even 200 or 300 miles would keep me from having range anxiety. 500 miles is the magic number for me. Once they get there, then I'll take notice. I need an excess of range to allow for temperature issues and aging batteries. Given the nature of my job, I can't take time for recharging, not even 15 minutes.

[@emptied-soul6105]

in my country where Ev cars becoming popular ,many car-columnnists said that all ev cars ,if theier batts. were fully or near full charged while parking on hill and once you are going down hill ,the regen brake will work a little bit and cause you to use regular brake all the way down hill and not safe for the car owner like no engine brake or less engine brake. is it real? can you make a test?..I told a columnist that impossible even no current charge to the batt. but the delay braking in the regen brake system still work fine. but it seemed that he believ some of columnists who made a test before.I think those columnist who made a test must be mistake something for sure

[@Malc664]

The Mini Wlectric is $62K in Australia. 😞

[@patton357]

Thank you for talking about the standard wall outlet! This EV makes sense!

[@michaelhenry-hurst2787]

No point blocking out the Speed Limit info on the dash dude lol we aint blind

[@1970351C2V]

I want to see a video on real-world mileage/efficiency with that Mini in the winter. Is the range something abysmal like 70miles?

[@wzDH106]

Depends on your definition of winter. We are seeing 100 to 115 miles with temperatures well below 40F, heavy rain/wet roads. Temperatures in the single digits will most likely have a larger hit, as well as driving 80-85 MPH on the freeway.

[@1970351C2V]

@@wzDH106 Colorado winter, naturally

[@jayrichards3672]

Can't wait for the electric trucks towing 🤦‍♂️when talking abysmal.

[@fkkmag8692]

My neighbor has one, it’s a real fun car but the mileage is to low!

[@volvo09]

Might be a good used buy to look out for, for a fun runaround car.

[@laloajuria4678]

its a secondary/commuter car. too*

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@volvo09 But then it's even less range. A small battery losing 20% can make the car unusable, a large battery losing the same is still usable.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Getters cels 16 perc mt

[@Bikerbug2020]

Tommy - 40-60 miles a day? Dude, I drive 150-200 miles a day… so, that thing is a Super NON-starter. Hence, had a T-M-Y, now a Bolt, and have an ID.4 on order as well as a Rivian R1T. Will see which unit will replace the Bolt.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Biy longtangevlile NM

[@Slickpete83]

💡💡 *TFL is cheating that's why the blurred out the range display in the video during some scenes , in my opinion*

[@allanj4576]

I want a mini, but I'm going to wait because apparently they are coming out with a 250 mile range battery in 2024.

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Nope 127

[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@sharonbraselton3135]

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[@sharonbraselton3135]

Nope 2040 2400

[@Georgejoseph74]

Hi guys,wat about towing an ev car to see if it recharges??

[@laloajuria4678]

same thing....anything to activate regen. u are just burning energy to transfer energy.

[@ALMX5DP]

Engineering Explained and The Straight Pipes did that test a few years ago.

[@laloajuria4678]

@@ALMX5DP also outofspec to get a dead Tesla going again when chargers failed.

[@therandomtester9561]

Of course laws of physics don't allow you to regen everything, you have covered 7 miles! You have to compare it to the same distance on flat road. If you do, you should see roughly same result as I did in a test, less than 10% higher consumption on up+down vs flat.

[@andrewroberts1787]

7% battery (used 2.02 kWh) to go 3.5 miles up mountain. -2% battery (regency 0.58 kWh) to go 3.5 miles down mountain. Net used 5% battery (1.44 kWh) to go 7 miles total up & down mountain = 4.86 miles per kWh and total range (100-0) of 140 miles in these conditions.

[@daves1646]

Wow. I’d have thought it’d be more like 50-60% recovery. Supporting systems AND heating must be using a fair bit of energy. Always heard estimates of ~ 90 effic for DC to AC and back. Clearly messier than that!

[@MrColdNoodles]

Is it bad to have my re-gen breaking on all the time?

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Nope

[@rossbowman202]

I called 83% at the top of the hill and that is what you got.

[@brianmef71]

I also use no gas going down a mountain. Same difference.

[@lastlondon]

Thank god for SponsorBlock

[@markotrieste]

How much? Way more than an ICE!

[@dreamcruzer4743]

Every time I hear Nathan talking about his balls, I want to hurl.

[@rickiejones6860]

you need a longer stretch downhill. I used to fill the battery back up on my Prius PHEV going downhill in South Dakota

[@laloajuria4678]

to be fair its like 1kwh haha.

[@naughtysauce4323]

The test was to see how much energy he can regain on the same stretch of road he came up from.

[@BullittKid08]

The prius prime has a 4.4kwh battery. Thats like 15% the size of the mini electric, doesnt seem like it would be very hard to regen that energy

[@jeanmenieur]

This is why I'll never go back to a pure gas vehicle. People don't realize the amount of energy they are wasting from breaking or idling...

[@Mr20564]

worry to much…

[@dunhillsupramk3]

Tesla fanboys: a Tesla can put back 120% back into the batteries....

[@wiks101]

114 Miles of range is a deal Killer for 30K

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Telsa clls 131 mie evrange

[@albertpaquette7329]

I think the logic used in this test is incorrect. You didn't credit the car for the 3.5 miles of road distance it covered by driving down the hill. If the downhill slope were nearly 90 degrees, the car would have generated much more electricity because the car would not have had to expend energy covering aerodynamic drag and rolling resistance due to the 3.5 miles. If the slope had been very gradual, you would have recovered nothing because all the regenerated electricity would be consumed covering the greater distance.. Clearly, you have to add back the energy the car used to cover the 3.5 miles. - say 1 kWh and add that to the half kWh of regeneration you recorded.

[@stevenaziz]

I love the video and I love you guys but the video quality was just terrible. Don't you folks have a better camera? Even an iPhone would have been better. Edit: I'm watching on a studio monitor with extremely fast internet and full video quality. It's not my side.

[@wony69]

Interesting to see if Tesla would charge more. You should try it with your dad's MYP.

[@jasondavis2945]

Driving from Breckenridge back home I always end up in the + with my M3P. It's always fun.

[@rzu7120]

They sold the Model Y quite some time ago.

[@williammodlin2621]

Just proves you can’t get sumpin for nuttin!

[@RoverRacer913]

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[@danielramsey1959]

Try this regen braking downhill on a heavily iced road.

[@laloajuria4678]

u do realize stability/abs works in tandem still right? its not either or....

[@TFLcar]

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[@uvural]

sorry but its a very silly test.. i had this car for a year and this car never gives you correct percentage of battery. you need to check the kw /100 km of this car. 2nd big mistake you made your test road very short. i was expecting you can show us at least 20-30 km uphill climbing. i hope you can make it again

[@johnwebb3637]

A comparison of the fuel used by an equivalent internal combustion engine to do the same amount of work is of great interest . I believe it is assumed the 33,000 joules of energy are equivalent to one gallon of gasoline. Through thermal dynamics and efficiency loss I don't find that number to be reasonable. I do know that if I drive my Volt in the mode using gasoline I achieve very near 40 miles per gallon and the same drive with electric vehicle mode uses near 10 kilowatt hours. I suspect that is more of an apples to apples comparison. 10 kilowatt hours of power cost $1.60 and a gallon of gas $3.30 while writing this. In your test the car used a total of 1.45 kilowatts. That would be the same amount of fuel to drive on flat land with I.C.E. 5.8 miles in my case as opposed to seven miles with high degree incline/decline round trip during this video. I believe with the advent of electric vehicles ( especially trucks) that people would like to see a nearly apples to apples comparison.

[@TechSavvyOppa]

Engineering Explained did a similar video to what you describe. They took a tesla and a ford raptor, and used one gallon of gasoline. They found they were able to drive more miles, if they used the one gallon of gas to tow the tesla with the raptor, and drive the tesla, then if they just used the one gallon of gas to drive the truck... Pretty interesting video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJKqh6J4ab-hY7s

[@migy5031]

I wasn’t expecting the Mini to recoup all the energy, but I’m disappointed by the meager regen. 😔

[@L0K0R4C1NG]

other cars have more efficiency you will get way more in lets say a tesla

[@riomljr]

ugh tommy is so hot!

[@rob_lightbody]

I'd like you to try going down again in low-regen mode. It's only at the corners that I'd use high.

[@raidersamson3356]

This car useless at 114 mile range

[@sharonbraselton3135]

Wog get telsa cells 131 miecrange

[@mahendrareddy6]

You guys should buy a long term Model S Plaid

[@davidblalock9945]

Sadly, the music really muddies the waters when it comes to the sound on my iPhone.

[@-Jethro-]

Yes, the music was too loud and not needed.

[@graemejohnson9025]

Your camera Man in the Nissan in front of you.. Is a wanker.. instead of using the brakes, here in Australia we just change down a gear to slow down.. and let the engine slow car down.. not using brakes.. when are you Americans going to learn how to drive? You all are brought up with automatic cars.. truck? Tap it down a couple of gears, and let the engine do the work of slowing down.. simple..

[@TFLcar]

Can’t help but wonder what’s cheaper to replace, transmission, engine or brakes? Give that some thought Mate!

[@graemejohnson9025]

@@TFLcar You must have a Shit car, if the Engine and Transmission can’t handle Engine Braking.. you do change down a gear to go around slow corners don’t you? Oh that’s right, Americans can’t drive stick shift.. watching you trying to select low range in the Old Truck was a Huge Giggle..

[@graemejohnson9025]

@@TFLcar Steep Declines in Australia have a Sign for Semi Truck drivers.. Please select Low Gear.. First rule in Race Craft.. Don't Ride the Brakes.. if you are riding the Brakes on a Decline and hit Black Ice? It's Goodnight Irene...

[@graemejohnson9025]

@@TFLcar if your engine and transmission fails.. it's a Shitbox.. My 1986 928 Porsche.. has updated brakes.. balanced and blueprinted engine.. updated 6 speed automatic transaxle.. at Bathurst race track. I can hit a corner at 100mph and tap down a gear.. to slow down.. Americans buy more f150 because they are big and fat.. small dick big car.. the F150 came to Australia and the Toyota creamed them..

[@graemejohnson9025]

@@TFLcar Funny, I haven't got a Reply? To my comments.. chicken?

[@WarrenRCG]

Interesting. I would love to see a measurement of EMF radiation in the various EVs you all drive.

[@laloajuria4678]

? why

[@1905934]

You do realize that EMF has a lot to do with voltage. I have a EMF reader and gas cars with over 16,000 volt has about 100 times more EMF than any of my EV do. I compared the 2008 Jeep Cherokee, to 2017 Tesla X, (400volt) 2017 Kia Soul (360volts). If EMF is a factor.. then you need to stop driving a gas car.. they are loaded with EMF radiation.

[@larrysacks8927]

It is all about physics you will always lose energy efficiency due to heat. The real question is will an EV ever have less impact on our environment than a gas powered vehicle? Battery components to where the electricity come from when you plug it in? Where and how was it generated. Sorry still trying to understand the value of an EV.

[@anthonyc1883]

The information you seek is easily found. KZbinrs Engineering Explained and Two Bit Davinci have done analysis with sources cited. Probably many more by this point.

[@markhaechler3512]

It's all about efficiency per energy consumption. Even the most fuel efficient internal combustion engines are no where near as efficient as EVs. ICE lose their energy to heat like you said.

[@philtripe]

Because it cost him like 24 cents in electricity to go up that mountain... and i have solar panels... cant wait to get an EV and pay nearly nothing to drive and never have to visit a gas station again... ok i will still go there for beer, but at least i wont have to put the change on pump 5

[@markhaechler3512]

@@philtripe I have an EV and solar panels. We stopped driving the gas car unless we have to. It's so nice having a full battery every morning that is dirt cheap to drive. Its relaxing to drive and the instant torque is fun. No maintenance at all except for tires and brake fluid changes.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

@@markhaechler3512 But they don't need to be efficient because they hold 10x more energy than a BEV in the first place. And they refuel in minutes.

[@mikegoettina]

MANSCAPED is for city boys can we say crap