How much does it cost to run an EV? Tyres, Insurance, Servicing, RESALE? | The CarExpert Podcast

You all asked for it - this is our full breakdown of EV running costs! We looked at the GWM Ora, Tesla Model Y RWD, Kia EV9 Air and a Toyota Rav4 GX Hybrid covering everything from insurance, tyres, charging/fuel, servicing and we even did our best to try and work out some resale figures on them.
We even chat to Paul about his ownership experience.
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Insurance: 02:19
Charging: 09:53
Tyres: 17:08
Paul Interview: 25:28
Service Costs: 35:02
Resale: 40:04
Total costs: 47:54
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[@_shreyash_anand]

I don't know why I watch these videos. I don't live in Australia. Never been to Australia. But love them anyway

[@jasoncee666]

It's all about knowledge 🤓👍

[@TeteaTochhawng]

@@jasoncee666 Same

[@PazLeBon]

@@jasoncee666 yep, thats another reason we wonder why we watch lol

[@CrazyFun2024_]

It means that somewhere in your heart, you want to migrate to Australia :)

[@PazLeBon]

@@CrazyFun2024_ youmean he hs secret criminal past? haha

[@johnlambert1744]

I sold my hybrid RAV4 (2020 model) mid last year to get into a Model Y - my first EV. I managed to sell the RAV4 back to Toyota (not a trade in) for $4000 less than what I paid for it, with over 65,000km on it. I was really impressed with that part! Our running costs for the MY is less than what you quoted because we can charge from solar, and charge for basically free at my workplace. However as you mentioned the cost of insurance and tyres are more expensive compared to the RAV4, so it almost offsets the "fuel" savings. BUT I absolutely LOVE driving the MY, much more than the RAV4. I think the actual driving and "user" experience during car ownership should come into play, not just the financials. I've never bought a car as a financial investment to make money, I buy them to get to and from work, to use for long distance travel, and just the pure enjoyment of driving. Sometimes this costs a lot of money - but for me it's bloody worth every cent!!

[@Dreamer10888]

yea.. i know someone who always earn more than me, always relied on others for a drive, borrowed car from his sister, never took uber and would walk back home from the metro station even if it look like 30 minutes. Would need his gf to pick him up even though she lives like an hour away... just to save money by not having a car... for what... just pathetic.

[@Spades080]

I own a Model Y and got quotes from all these other insurers you've tested and NRMA came out the lowest. I'm early 40's in Canberra. Renewed just last month April 2024. Base premium was about $1350.

[@CarExpertAus]

Location makes a big difference, well done on getting such a good deal.

[@Ted...youtubee]

Yet, you never specified your excess or insured value.

[@Spades080]

@@Ted...youtubee $1100 excess, $65k insurad value

[@standupmoto]

@@Spades080 Exactly the same price ($1350) with $1k excess using RAA insurance in South Aus.

[@aaaaplay]

@CarExpertAus what if you did this same breakdown but for the petrol, hybrid, and electric Hyundai Kona? That would give you a far more direct comparison of costs.

[@Sedge86]

As someone who does 25,000km a year, the savings are far more profound, especially with petrol at $2+. Also im paying $1300/year for comprehensive insurance on a m3 long range 2023, so by your figures it must have skyrocketed in the last 11 months (thankfully i have that premium locked in for 5 years). Also saving the best part of 2 vw services each year ($1200). Tyre wear so far is no worse than my skoda superb scout. (Which i bought from Paul's review 4 or so years back). So all in all, its going to vary from person to person.

[@PazLeBon]

def viable for high milers, for low miles its the opposite

[@CarExpertAus]

Yes insurance has jumped up. With some tricky massaging of the online insurance quote tools we could get the cost down, but only if we drove it 2 days per week, alarmed garage, etc. starts to become silly at that point.

[@Sedge86]

@@CarExpertAus pretty important to make note of the fact that you can novated lease one FBT free. So that's tax free for the car and associated running costs

[@Sedge86]

@@PazLeBon I wouldn't say it's the opposite, but it's comparable. So then you need to ask what (if any) advantage you're getting from going that way with the resale risk.

[@PazLeBon]

@@CarExpertAus lmao 2 days a week???? no way?!

[@Themitch343]

Thanks, great video

[@buncha5651]

The biggest shock will come in depreciation when 5 plus years old when you go to trade. Nobody will want a second-hand EV .😊

[@alf699]

Agree in general to all your cost analysis. Insurance is a different case. Our 2016 Skoda Superb with all options cost and Service Plan cost us $55,000,-. Our new EV6 November 2023 (MY24) top of the line all options and service plan cost us over $100,000,-. The difference in Top Level Insurance from the same Insurer NRMA was less then $300,- more for the EV6. We pay less then 1/2 of your costs quoted due to long membership/no claim bonus etc. One last comment: My personal believe is that an EV at this stage has to be a long term purchase. Nothing under 7 years minimum to get the true cost benefit out of it. Otherwise, a Hybrid is your better option.

[@standupmoto]

Guys great presentation as usual but quick question, why did you use last years purchase price for the Tesla & Ora when prices were artificially inflated due to availability issues but current price for the Rav 4?

[@CarExpertAus]

RAV4 was the same price a year ago as it was today. When we pulled the numbers, we looked at MY23 models on Redbook to grab the data, which show the original sale price for that model.

[@standupmoto]

@@CarExpertAus Ok, thanks for the clarification. Only reason I asked is a mate bought the Rav (or should I say ordered it) Feb 23 & paid $9k more than it is now for the same spec, needless to say he is a bit peeved. On the flip side as you say they hold their resale value well. 👍

[@CarExpertAus]

Not a huge surprise with some of the stories we have heard about dealers charging extra to jump the queue, etc. For our comparison, it's easier to stick with list pricing, but mileage will vary depending on where and what particular spec you buy.

[@spinnymathingy3149]

What about insurance costs for your House Insurance? (Sorry if I missed it) but I’ve heard that if charging your EV in your home garage will dramatically increase your house insurance costs ?

[@johnlambert1744]

I looked into this as well, and no it doesn't affect your house/building or contents insurance charging at home. In fact there has never been an EV fire (at least in Australia) while charging at home (or publicly for that matter).

[@SoroushMobin]

That was a very informative chat. I’m thinking to buy a BYD Atto 3, but the new Sealion 6 is also very impressive. What do you guys think of the PHEV technology vs EV in 5 years time? Do you think as an early adopter, should I go with EV or PHEV? I think PHEVs will be becoming obsolete soon when faster chargers and better batteries come out. Do you think they will stay in demand in 5 years time specially in Australia when they didn’t really pick up sales that much.

[@bunyipcow]

Overall phev sales numbers are low but its up something like 200% year on year. Theres been a relative lack of compelling phev options too

[@MichaelPanzer]

I think the depreciation of EVs is mostly due to the consumers having experience with EVs and especially used ones don't exist yet and it will take some time. At some point there will be people on the used market that will know how to buy an EV and what to look for. This will change things a lot. Demand will inevitably increase for used EVs over time. Also the question is what will happen to oil because if we continue to socialize the real cost of burning fossil fuels then this will cost us all not l more longer

[@lzb86404]

Thanks for the great video. My two cents: market value may be a better option than agreed value, especially for new car. Most of the insurers have the new car replacement policy that is if the car is to be written off they will just give you a new car, instead of cash settlement. Even without this, market value option provides some room for bargaining. Just find some similar cars from carsales and tell the assessor that's the amount you are looking for. They usually quite good.

[@johnemerson5383]

I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't do a PHEV. The figures for them would be quite different.

[@sneakyfoz3692]

Living in Mascot, probably anywhere in Sydney really is the worst case scenario for comprehensive insurance, some of these premiums would be 1/3rd of the cost depending on where you live.

[@nandat8883]

Good info

[@davedonnelly8681]

Using ovo to charge a model 3 on 3 phase. We can drive 3-4 days to work and back before battery gets down to the high 40%. We then Charge from 44% to 80% from 11am to 2pm, also heat the water, run ducted ac. It’s fantastic. Use gas stove to avoid peak tarrif rates.

[@CarExpertAus]

I think that's the way to do it if you can install 3-phase.

[@davedonnelly8681]

@@CarExpertAus sadly these free rates probably won’t last for ever but take advantage while you can

[@johnlambert1744]

@@davedonnelly8681 Indeed! However the price of fuel is only going to go up dramatically as well.

[@davedonnelly8681]

@@johnlambert1744 to true. Right now we’re in the Goldilocks period of charging evs. It literally feels like cheating. The one thing with evs is ultimately you have control over the cost of the fuel you put in the vehicle. You do need to purchase a solar system to achieve this but honestly if you own a home then a solar system is a no brainer and not an enormous investment like it used to be 10 years ago. Where as ice powered cars have fuel cycles which piss me off to no end. Honestly one of the big reasons I switched to ev was I got sick of being screwed and hunting for the cheapest fuel.

[@jimmyp1433]

My profile is very similar to mr control man except in QLD, and pay only ~$1300 through Budget Direct for a BMW i4 , which is more expensive than all these cars.. A lot of other companies I got quotes for were expensive AF though, so I think they're (BD) well worth looking at if you're trying to insure an EV

[@CarExpertAus]

Good deal! Exactly why it pays to shop around.

[@jspanga]

Huh? Did Ford Ranger V6 would chew through fuel compared to EV that could run on solar... wasn't factored in?

[@paulsimpson8990]

A ford ranger will need three automatic gearboxes to make it to 100,000km

[@CarExpertAus]

Ranger overall cost listed at the end and on the website.

[@dkkli985]

I've used the Budget Direct online tool to quote a 2024 rear wheel drive (base model) Tesla Model Y no choice of repair $700 excess 40+ years driver park in garage no window-glass no hire cars basically no extra options included and I got $4144.99 a year.. Not sure if I did anything wrong, but is it because the insurance is higher in Victoria or? I don't think the price could be that much different across different insurers. And I believe Budget Direct is one of the cheaper ones.

[@PazLeBon]

ouch and for a poor build quality car too

[@CarExpertAus]

We did test a couple of Melbourne options and found them to be generally more expensive depending on location (we tested an inner city suburb). Try testing a few variations and providers to see if the numbers change.

[@johnlambert1744]

Depending on your annual distance travelled, try Koba car insurance for insuring the MY. I recently did a quote for 21,000km per year and it came back with just over $1600.

[@PazLeBon]

@@johnlambert1744 lmao. i cried at my 200bh bmw insurance being over 300 euros

[@MotoGuzziMoto]

One day it will be interesting to compare a plug in hybrid in your 10,000 per year comparison.

[@joshuaStewart-qf2le]

Should have included depreciation in the cost of ownership to give a real view of what it cost to own each car. By your own numbers the GWM would have cost $25k in the first year. I would guess that MG’s would be the same.

[@JGrandcourt]

I agree. This is a good basic start but they should have done a basic comparison for finance. One buying outright and another on a lease. Maybe they should do a comparison for a petrol vs Ev Kia Niro for price difference and depreciation. I find most people that take in operating cost differences ignore the financial servicing cost difference In the end of the day if a person says they bought a car because they like it, rather trying to convince others they did for finance win me. Buying an Ev or an Ice for financial reasons is madness.

[@CarExpertAus]

We didn't include finance because everyone will have a different finance rate depending on dozens of factors. So we just stuck with costs you can't avoid when owning/running a car.

[@djm8027]

You can't assume insurance companies will give you agreed value at list price .I could only get an aggreed value at purchase price for my ford Everest from RAC , the next best value was $15000 less from the other companies.

[@CarExpertAus]

Most insurers have a new for old policy, so you’re wasting money trying to get agreed value on a new car if it’ll be replaced anyway.

[@andyg3752]

Tesla Model Y RWD has dropped 8k in 2 years not 12k as Paul has stated. I’d suggest he would still be able to sell for more than 45k. Also didn’t mention the significant tax savings he made. So suggesting to not lease a Tesla is pretty poor and uneducated advice.

[@CarExpertAus]

Nope. Was $72,300 in June 2022 after we purchased. Same car now costs $60,900. Given most people will soon be coming out of a 2 year lease (feel even worse for those locked into a 3 year lease) with cars worth less than the balloon, it’s a disaster situation.

[@andyg3752]

@@CarExpertAus ok you said in video you ordered when orders opened when it was $68,900 before on roads. They increased price after that so assume you didn’t order when first available then? Wouldn’t say it’s a disaster even if you only sell it for 40k. You have saved significantly more than that with tax savings over the 2 years over having a rav4. Also not everyone leases a car to resell it at the end. There is other options. Purchase it to keep or extend the lease at the residual value which makes it cheaper then original lease.

[@alastairhatt360]

Totally agree. He is forgetting the savings he has had and only looking at the resale which he would get more than that.

[@davedonnelly8681]

@@GDM22 sadly not how a novated lease works. You must make you balloon payment

[@johnlambert1744]

@@davedonnelly8681 Correct - I've novated leased quite a few cars over the years and simply handing the car back was never an option. You either pay the balloon payment and then own the car outright, refinance for another 1, 2, etc. years lease or borrow money (eg. personal loan) to pay the balloon payment.

[@peterstone6307]

Surely if you can get a still great tyre at a lower cost it’s worth it, even if it marginally lowers your range you still saved a lot of money on the tyres.

[@alastairhatt360]

I don’t agree with Paul about the novated lease issues. All cars depreciate some makes worse than others. The savings you got from the pre tax savings, running costs no Fringe benefit tax etc where if you did the same with the ICE car you would have greater running costs, had to pay the fringe benefit tax more servicing costs. I bet you would still be ahead with the EV.

[@captaindasbomb6862]

Model Y vs RAV vs EV9 isn't really an apple for apples comparison.. BYD Atto 3 vs RAV 4 & EV9 vs Ford Everest V6 Platinum maybe. But it would be interesting if a comparison is done say a Kona Hybrid vs Kona Electric or XC40 petrol vs XC40 BEV & over a more realistic period like 4 years factoring in the cost of finance. I would think with zero FBT liability a leased EV would be the more tax effective option.

[@CarExpertAus]

This isn’t about apples or oranges for that matter. These are the popular cars that people buy, which is why we showcased them. It’s not a comparison, just an example of what you can expect.

[@thepuntersperspective]

jeepers !!! next time i need an omelette unscrambled ill give you lads a call kudos, now have beer, many's

[@shaunbeattie6557]

You based the 3 evs on 30 klm around town and plugging in at home the toyota can do 67 klm on hybrid with no plug in power and fuel is hardly used .Travel to Sydney and give proper electric charge prices

[@CarExpertAus]

This is based on a year of ownership. Check out our other video driving an EV from Melbourne to Sydney: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZjRYq2HgrKNg6ssi=TSmmDt3KAvtpdP7B

[@tonyspiegel6771]

I would be careful here guys. Sounds like most people in Australia would be better off not even buying a car. Seems like the best outcome if you add cost of the car as well is around 10K a year over 5 years. Rideshare door to door is close to $1 a km these days. Maybe more people should not bother buying a car as they dont drive far enough to justify the cost and just use public transport to save a packet or jump in an uber if they want to hob knob it. Maybe we should reduce the cars we own and do more km's in the ones that are owned. Would solve alot of problems other than just saving money.

[@dann5515]

idk what kind of people who go buy brand new car and just to worried about resell value for a year of driving?

[@John-vx6ul]

Paul should have given the whole picture in regard to a Novated lease. He failed to mention the salary sacrifice benefit he would have received from reducing his pretax income. On my salary it worth approximately $9k per year. That’s $18k I could have reduced the price of the balloon payment by and still been ahead selling it. It’s important that full information is provided in this sort of forum.

[@ev0wat]

Paul’s not qualified to speak on accounting etc. I think your just trying to cope coz you jumped the gun and got an ev now you’re realising the heavy depreciation value

[@John-vx6ul]

@@ev0wat couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m sick of half of or inaccurate information. He gave incomplete information. Didn’t seem to stop him giving info on depreciation

[@CarExpertAus]

In my situation I would have been better off just buying the car outright. What you haven’t mentioned is you get burned on finance costs (the loan has high interest) and when you sell the car it’s worth less than the payout amount (in the case of Tesla’s big price volatility).

[@John-vx6ul]

@@CarExpertAus as to the finance cost currently it very close ie 0.5 % of car loan interest rates.

[@Emptyheads.]

Paul is almost correct as novated lease doesn’t make sense for most.

[@alexanderjyang]

What about the intangible benefits of owning a car with the latest tech innovations in it? It is just like people pay $2k for smart phone when they can grab a similar phone from Woolies for $200. People do pay for those “Experiences”.

[@johnlambert1744]

That's exactly it! See my comment I just left above. Some people only want a car to get from A to B (like a cheap Woolies phone) and others want to drive "in style" and experience a fantastic drive. But I can see the point of this podcast video as some people might think an EV will always be cheaper to run regardless, which it's not. A lot of factors come into play.

[@sirtyjuan]

Tesla model Y, insurance $1k, rego $650, tyres and servicing $0 so far after almost 2 years. Tyres look new still. Electricity close to $0 using electricity retailer Ovo's FREE power window! You forgot to mention that the more km you do the cheaper the EV gets - if you can still charge at home for cheap. You also forgot to mention that the other side of the depreciation coin is cheap second hand EVs. They all have long battery and drivetrain warranties (usually 8 years), so the concern about battery tech is just typical journo FUD. Incidently, lots of car brands advertising on CarExpert! But not Tesla. You guys should have to put the companies that sponsor you on your shirt like racecar drivers!

[@marcc.490]

Overall it just make sense to go BEV. Running two petrol car on a single income is a struggle.

[@AnthonyWilson-mm8rn]

Wow insurance quotes are expensive. When I do the Tesla Y for a man in his 40's, no finance, clean history and it came out at $1200 with a $800 excess. That was with Allianz.

[@Savageturtle92]

Model 3, 30yold male NSW, $900 premium through auspost full comprehensive. $1500 excess (make it high if you don’t plan on crashing)

[@CarExpertAus]

Yeah playing with excess can make a big difference. Good job on that price though!

[@ronaldov09]

Thats crazy, Im paying 1200 for a car thats 10 years old and worth 20K!

[@AeroDr]

Geez, insurance premiums have gone absolutely *bonkers* of late...

[@user-qo9jq7ed2l]

Clearly EVs are more expensive to insure then petrol cars. My Pajero Sport is around $1,000 per year with Allianz (business usage).

[@andyg3752]

What postcode is that Model Y insurance in? My Model Y performance is over $1000 cheaper a year insurance in Melbourne. And why choose the red energy rate that is 3 times more expensive? To someone show a petrol car is cheaper? Are you guys sponsored by oil companies?

[@ev0wat]

Let me guess, you can sell it tomorrow and make money on it aswell?? 🤦‍♂️ these ev nutjobs will do anything to cope.

[@CarExpertAus]

As we said, we put Red energy because they are 100% Australian owned and their standard rate is pretty competitive. Literally just to show a comparison.

[@andyg3752]

@@CarExpertAus that’s ok if just comparing EV’s but you then compared to the petrol car so therefore made it look cheaper to run then some of them. If used the cheapest rate it would have been most expensive in the comparison. Also as mentioned I don’t know anyone paying that much for insurance for a model Y rwd. Need to shop around a bit more.

[@andyg3752]

@@simonmiller5118 agree, should be able to get insurance for at least half of what they quoted. They must be in a very dodgy postcode to get rates that high. End of the day though they get paid by the manufacturer’s and 90% of sales are from ICE vehicles still. When that switches over to 50% in a few years watch their reviews swing around in favour of EV’s.

[@OzSaints66]

I love reading comments from the converted, oh anything questioning EVs, it’s the oil companies and the devil…..lol

[@davidperry3531]

My BMW 330i is far cheaper to run in all aspects. My RAA insurance ($1700 pa) means I don’t have to worry about the value of the car because if it is written off, RAA will for the life of my car, provide a brand new car of the current model as long as I keep insurance with them. Potenza RFTs are far cheaper than tyres for EVs. Fuel cost me was $1400 last year for 10,000 kms and I have just renewed my BMW service agreement for the next 5 years for $936. Depreciation on most EVs is disastrous and the unknown factor of battery life is something that will affect all EVs. Take into account the worry of public charging availability with a EV and it is a ‘no brainer’. Why would I want an EV? Paul’s example of the depreciation factor was a real eye opener. There is a huge question mark over the back up and availability of parts for many of these new EVs hitting the market. Established manufacturers selling in Australia are generally going to have the experience and excellent parts inventory.

[@paulsimpson8990]

There is no way a 330i is cheaper to own than a Tesla model 3. I did that exact comparison before buying mine and I’d never touch another BMW as a daily driver after owning 3 of them. Tesla all the way for me. Faster, more comfortable, costs $0 in fuel and depreciation on par with BMWs. Tesla makes the better car and $30k cheaper up front.

[@davidperry3531]

@@paulsimpson8990 Didn’t you watch Paul’s expose on Tesla depreciation? They are a disaster.

[@paulsimpson8990]

@@davidperry3531 so I just had a look on Carsales and after two years I have lost about $20k in depreciation yet if I had a bmw 330i I would be about $40k down…

[@paulsimpson8990]

@@davidperry3531 you also get the privilege of paying lct here in Australia for the baby BMW…..makes it even less attractive

[@davidperry3531]

@@paulsimpson8990 I paid a huge sum of about $130 LCT on my BMW.

[@Rooster1717]

Depreciation always the biggest cost item of a car. Would have been interesting to have included that in your total numbers. RAV4 would have been cheapest to own then.

[@davedonnelly8681]

The depreciation factor is interesting. I do wonder what the depreciation will be like over the next few years now that rav4 supply is starting to come back to normal.

[@CarExpertAus]

We did think about calculating yearly cost whilst including depreciation, but given the resale numbers we listed are based off Redbook's internal calculations, we didn't want to suggest an actual cost as the data just isn't there yet. We opted instead to just give a ballpark figure, but you can easily add the numbers we listed together and get an idea ;)

[@mattburgon8312]

Of course R17 tires on the basic-spec RAV are going to be cheaper than larger wheels on the EVs lol

[@GDM22]

I agree EVs are a depreciation risk and this has been exasperated by offering rebates and discounted stamp duty on new cars and for EVs newer than June 2022 salary packaging via FBT exempt novated leases. China's capacity to undercut traditional car maker prices, their dominance in battery technology and to some extent EVs in general is also factor. It is very hard to believe though that a supply of cheap new and used EVs coming onto the market are not going to bring down the price of ICE vehicles ultimately with them. EVs will keep getting better and better, lower weight, better range, faster charging, lower battery degradation, ICE vehicle won't, there will be a tipping point where there will be little reason for the average person not to move across.

[@nathanhorlin-smith4856]

With my experience in the tyre industry and hearing of the tyre wear tendencies on EV's I think factoring in 2 rotate and balances would be a good idea per annum.

[@johnlambert1744]

Tesla recommend tyre rotations every 10,000km.

[@anthonybugge5220]

Wow I pay $1950 for my GV80 3.5tr agreed value of $138k.

[@OzSaints66]

So if we factor in depreciation and charging away from home at public chargers, EV’s appear to be a poor investment financially. Look forward to when you do a part 2 on the whole of life environmental impact of EVs which also does not paint a great picture when also compared to a Rav 4.

[@GDM22]

Yeah not sure where you are getting your information around the environmental impact, Greenpeace and most governments around the world do not agree with that statement.

[@fungt89]

The ranger example over 5 years quickly ads up and their fuel cost maths start to fall apart because there's no way that ranger is doing the manufacturer's fuel economy. I don't own an ev but saying the ranger being 25% more to run isn't that much is just bad? They really should of just put in a control ice car that sells well like a Santa FE or cx 60 instead of that pointless ranger comparison.

[@CarExpertAus]

Ranger is the best selling vehicle in the country, that’s why we compared it.

[@rogersliu1200]

people thinking of EV cars from the wrong way. just get a cheap Chinese EV with a Car to Load application and use it as BESS for your home. That will be the most cost-effective solution. like MG4 for example， you are paying about 800AUD per KWH which is a bargain if you use it as BESS and you can drive it as a car and deduct it for tax purposes if purchase as a company car LOL🤣.

[@lifewithalistair.]

I'm only subscribed for Paul Maric. All other videos bore me to tears.

[@CarExpertAus]

Lucky Paul is in this video then!

[@jasoncee666]

Oh dear buddy Paul is married, better luck next time.....😅

[@lifewithalistair.]

@@jasoncee666 I only subscribed for the car reviews. All the stat videos are boring and I'd rather see the cars and not the talk festival.

[@jasoncee666]

@@lifewithalistair. well just watch the reviews 🤔 I don't think there are less reviews with the addition of other videos......

[@paulsimpson8990]

The insurance are a bunch of pricks. It pays to shop around but they’re taking every opportunity to gouge wherever they can. We really need Tesla insurance here in Australia 🇦🇺

[@CarExpertAus]

It’s scary to see how much they charge, and scarier to think given cost of living that some people might forgo comprehensive insurance to try and save money…

[@paulsimpson8990]

@@CarExpertAusAlan Kohler showed a chart the other night where insurance premiums are the main contributor to inflation. Budget direct tried to double my premium recently because apparently everything is more expensive despite the fact that the price of a new car remains the same 😂😂 they refer to this as greedflation and it’s an absolute disgrace and opportunistic predatory behaviour on behalf of the insurance companies hiding behind climate change and costs to repair EVs, battery fires etc despite this being absolute rubbish

[@CarExpertAus]

Ouch, that's rough. Definitely worth seeing what else is out there if they are going to try that.

[@hscomet]

What no PHEVs, math too hard? Oh thats right you don't talk about those!!

[@frankformby]

They don't sell very well. They only make sense if you mainly do short trips around town, charge the battery frequently (daily depending on distance) so you're running on electricity most of the time. Real world data suggests they use as much petrol as a normal ICE car because people can't be bothered to charge them so often or are doing lots of longer drives where you're using petrol to push a heavier car.

[@hscomet]

@@frankformby I think someone who pays the premium for a PHEV understanding how it should be used, will.. Scott said a few weeks ago do not buy a PHEV I would like a RAV4 Prime it ticks all my boxes and am waiting patiently to here Scotts reasons for not buying one (When it eventually makes it here)

[@adorolivar1340]

EV will have their time under the sun, probably another at least 5 years due to constant battery chemistry evolution, reason i purchased toyota hybrid, which is fantastic

[@ev0wat]

FYI the average Australian drives 20,000km per yr not 10,000km

[@CarExpertAus]

According to the ABS it’s 11,100km.

[@JamesCanavan-wl5ev]

Problem being, idiots like me can't absorb all the details guys.

[@CarExpertAus]

Check out the link in the description, all the numbers are on the site so you can see them all.

[@nikhilagrawal4914]

I dropped model Y purchase after checking the model 3, 4 year old insurance cost. I purchased cx8 for 48k. 20k will cover me for a long time.

[@bikersydney5653]

Interesting. The major ‘running cost’ here appears to be depreciation rather than the fuel source (electric v petrol). Gone are the days when you could sell your car for what you bought it for Paul. By aggressively cutting prices Tesla has accelerated depreciation whereas restricting supply and long wait times for loyal buyers Toyota has slowed depreciation. Let’s how this plays out long term.

[@Dreamer10888]

Mascot... they most likely live in an apartment

[@chrisyoung7157]

If you are charging your EV between midnight and 6 am you are powering your EV almost entirely on coal. Don't think this is going to save the planet!

[@PazLeBon]

its harmful if you only do a few k miles a year, if do very hgh miles then it will help

[@ev0wat]

I’d be too scared to charge it at night, it might catch fire.🔥

[@_wat2do]

Since it’s too slow and expensive to turn off the coal power stations overnight when demand is low and back on in the morning, they are producing that energy irrespective of if it’s being used or not. So technically charging an EV at this time is not necessarily producing any more pollution than if you didn’t charge it.

[@alastairhatt360]

Really? on coal… not on Gas or battery storage? I’m guessing you live in an area where they only have coal fired power stations. Here in WA we have one coal power station left and the rest of our power is from either renewables or gas as a back up. The coal is being fazed out and will be turned off in the next 12 months..

[@PazLeBon]

@@_wat2do lmao is that really your logic? no wonder the world is falling apart lol

[@davidperry3531]

The Kia a ‘sensible family sized car’. Get out of it - it is an expensive monster of a thing.

[@CarExpertAus]

Hey Siri, define sarcasm.

[@davidperry3531]

@@CarExpertAus Why was it awarded Drive Car of the Year then?

[@CarExpertAus]

@@davidperry3531Hey Siri, define sarcasm.

[@lukebrinsmead]

Brake fluid needs to be changed every 2-3 years. Aging brake fluid will become contaminated with water and metal particles from the parts that make up the braking system, changing the fluid will prevent corrosion and the components eventually failing. If you don’t change the brake fluid, the moisture absorbed by the fluid builds up throughout the braking system. As the water content increases, the boiling point of the brake fluid becomes lower. This can cause excessive heating and make the fluid boil, rendering your brakes inefficient. A brake fluid tester measures the percentage of water in the fluid and will tell you when the fluid needs to be replaced.

[@amahuri]

A lot of embarrassment? 🤔

[@wayneyoung146]

How deep are your pockets 😂 And places where you are not allowed to go with your EV.

[@PazLeBon]

i usually spend about 5k on a car. same as most of my peers all my life

[@jjolla6391]

did u add the cost borne by the rest of the motoring schmucks? eg (1) heavier vehicles put more strain on roads; (2) petrol price includes ~50% tax, so where is the shortfall for the government going to come from when we increase the proportion of EV drivers? (3) more complex fire-fighting protocols, (4) cost of destruction to the environment from: (i) making a complex "fuel tank" (batteries), (ii) the extra wiring to feed all the charge points, (iii) of covering acres of farmland with solar panels, (iv) End-of-life costs of disposing/recycling batteries/panels/turbines. (v) all those government incentives (a tax on all of us) that are available to a number of points in the chain of manufacturing.

[@CarExpertAus]

This is about running costs.

[@paulsimpson8990]

Oh please get back in your bunker you cooker 😂Lol

[@alastairhatt360]

Heavier vehicles?… are you actually serious. This is such an typical anti EV BS statement. How heavy do you think EV’s are? All dual cab 4wd’s are way heavier than most EV’s you do know there are trucks and vans on the roads…. Do your research!

[@jjolla6391]

@@alastairhatt360 a simple lookup: VW GTi weight 1420kg .. VW ID.3 weighs 2270kg .. more than 50% extra for similar dimensions/functionality

[@buncha5651]

As far as I'm concerned EV,s are crap. Hybrids are the best choice in Australia.😊

[@martiniwanderi719]

The new 2024 sonata review soon?? 🥹

[@ShinobiTekken]

An oversized cell phone on wheels is not a car