How Much Power Does Everything Use?

[@noahthefence4047]

I love videos that boil down to "Philips got a new toy and wants to show it off to all of us"

[@SirPoppy]

And taking the piss out of userbenchmark

[@deivytrajan]

Feels nice to be a rich spoiled youtuber, huh

[@tranminh4364]

​@@deivytrajan15$ wattmeter = "rich" youtuber lmao are you fr 💀

[@deivytrajan]

@@tranminh4364 you forgot his i9 and rtx 4090 flexing

[@depyjelly]

@@deivytrajan EEEEEEYUCK! SMELLS LIKE POOR IN HERE!

[@luclu7_]

Beware of the confusion between watts (power) and Watts-hour (energy), especially for the dryer

[@ThisRandomUsername]

He did seem to do that calculation properly, but got the units exactly opposite. Of course it's better to use the correct units for other people comparing to their consumption.

[@Cheesemax595]

Yeah I was getting confused on what he was saying at times

[@jadenbruscato3973]

Yeah that hurt my brain a little bit to read, hopefully Philip makes a comment or something with the correct math. Unless the dryer takes 1 hour to clean one cycle in which case it is already correct, but I believe it takes longer than an hour and thus consumes more energy.

[@maskettaman1488]

I think you might be confused. With the dryer, he's talking about how many watts a cycle uses (presumably googled an average value since he doesn't have one handy to test on) and compared it to the measured watt hours of his own setup. He's not comparing them on a energy-used-per-hour basis but rather energy-used-until-dried basis. 1 cycle of an unknown length vs the ~12 hours of his own setup.

[@jadenbruscato3973]

@@maskettaman1488 Nope, Phillip can def be forgiven for the mistake but I must assert that it was incorrect. Watts are a measure of energy transferred per unit time. kWh is a measure of energy, Kilowatts TIMES hours. To measure which is more efficient, you need to calculate which costs less energy per unit of clothes (load?), NOT time. The dryer is ~2-5kW and his setup is 500W from start to finish. Say it takes 5hr to dry with his setup and 1.5hr with a 2.5kW dryer. That’s 2.5kWh vs 3.75kWh with electric dryer.

[@IRico_chetI]

I like how you get boiling water from the tap like some kind of royal, but still have birmingham crack house walls in your kitchen

[@LeonzioMT]

I had the exact same thought

[@Sarnahanfi]

seriously, bothers me kinda, should invest his yt money in his walls as well

[@krizalllid]

He’s renovating his house while living in it - this slows things considerably. As for the quooker tap - I hate how the tank basically takes up the entire unit underneath the sink. Even worse if you get the carbonated chilled water tank as well.

[@cube2fox]

That boiling water tap surely consumes a lot more energy than doing it on demand in an electric kettle.

[@Benjamin-mq6hu]

​@@cube2fox Exactly. It takes the same amount of energy to heat up the water, the difference being that the tank has to keep it hot continuously. Electric kettles are pretty much as efficient as it gets, basically all of the energy goes into heating the water (and the kettle itself but that's unavoidable).

[@somerandomguy___]

Oh my god my dad would go crazy if he figured out he could play heroes 3 from his bed

[@Akgis32]

Mine would go crazy if I shown him this video and saw all the sandby power sapping shit :) Everytime I go to his house have to turn the router on and TV/cable box takes ages but he is right, and I had arguments saying those would take less than 1watt in standby.

[@joeykickassery]

Tell him to get VCMI on his tablet or (less ideally) phone and play Heroes 3 anywhere. I use it on android not sure if an iPhone version exists.

[@ice010]

I think it's the whole experience that matters; it can feel more complete on a desk with a pc

[@mutatabib]

same lol i always said to my father that they dont consume much and he never belived me he was right LOL @@Akgis32

[@somerandomguy___]

Update: I showed him this and he found it quite funny

[@jesstech]

Do not turn your OLED television off at the mains. It uses standby mode to "refresh" the organic pixels.

[@TwinkleTutsies]

I don't think it was an oled TV in the video

[@guesswho2778]

@@TwinkleTutsies they were probably just trying to warn people scrolling through the comments that all tvs are not the same, and something that is good for one technology isnt good for another. like the people that think you should let a lithium ion battery fully discharge and recharge them fully each time. that was true for ni-cad batteries, but its the exact opposite of what you want to do with lithium ion batteries.

[@TwinkleTutsies]

@@guesswho2778 spot on, I did think that after I commented

[@tteqhu]

@@guesswho2778 Well, if you could, maybe manually refresh pixels, and then plug it off - of course if it's possible. As I understand, the refresh is only one cycle, so no reason to keep it plugged if you're watching things once a day or more rarely.

[@AntonioNoack]

@@panjak323 /r/confidentlyIncorrect, take a look at RTINGS and TVs in storage don't burn their pixels, because they're off ofc; burn-in happens when the pixels are bright.

[@acmenipponair]

The reason the microwave uses so much W on the 700W setting is, that it's 700W OUTPUT of this device - but you need more Watt, as you see almost double the amount of Watt, for the device to output 700W. That's because for this device to do this stuff, you also need power to HEAT the spindle that emits this rays.

[@beardalaxy]

correct indeed, the wattage listed on devices is usually the output wattage, not the input. for speakers/PAs it can often be the other way around!

[@Geo64x]

Microwave magnetrons are about 40% efficient and are only powered from half of the AC cycle, so that might complicate things as well

[@hedgehog3180]

With basically all electrical devices, other than heaters like kettles, power draw will also increase as they heat up due to the electrical resistance rising. That's why cooling a PC makes sense, it requires less power to operate when it is cooler. So for something like a microwave as you increase its power the draw from the socket will increase faster than you turn up the power.

[@azmanic]

"wait for summer to dry my clothes" Ah yes, that 4 days per year we get for drying.

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

That "Please don't explode" was so genuine lol

[@oumakavoula]

This is peak on brand content, fucking love it

[@Guchiandra]

I wanted to like your comment but it has 69 likes so I don't wanna ruin it

[@Dr_Andracca]

@@Guchiandra That's why I have 351 accounts for situations just like this.

[@TCCification]

If you have an OLED TV make sure to not unplug it completely, it does refresh cycles to make your TV last longer when turned off so you will get burn in quicker if you do this.

[@KirbyBackwards]

Pure British excellency, from the ISO layout on the keyboard, to the 3 pronged plug .

[@daylen577]

I started this rabbit hole with a few cheap digital meters, then upgraded to smart sockets with 3-decimal precision. Now I have about 25 sockets measuring my devices and it turns out that my desk and my home server both use up about twice as much power as everything else combined, so 4/5th of my house power usage is going to my PC and my server

[@Snowbush2]

as it should be 😆

[@squidwardo7074]

Unless you live somewhere without it, there's no way your air con doesn't use more

[@KrolPawi]

​@@squidwardo7074 in Europe air conditioning is extremely uncommon

[@billgrant7262]

Intel? Light server load with AMD should be doable with 20-40W on the CPU

[@daylen577]

@@squidwardo7074 here in the Netherlands we don't do whole-house HVAC, and we only have the AC turned on when it's >30C or higher

[@electricindigoball1244]

Regarding phone chargers: if your charger is capable of fast charging then it will only charge at the maximum rate supported by the phone and charger if your phone's battery is almost empty. This is why with a fast charger you can charge from 5% to 50% in no time at all but charging the remaining 50% will take significantly longer. AFAIK this is a fundamental limitation of the current battery technology. Regarding your TV: it's most likely a "smart TV" which means a TV with an integrated computer in it and capable of connecting to the Internet. IMO that is the most likely explanation for its way higher standby power consumption. By comparison the majority of PC monitors are much closer to "dumb" displays even though they are capable of some post-processing. OLED displays consume less power when part of the screen is fully dark. This is because OLED screens can actually turn off individual pixels and that's what allows them to achieve much deeper black colours than LED/LCD monitors. So if you have an OLED screen using dark mode and choosing a mostly dark background will result in power savings. 5:49 - That looks like the most relaxing way to play Heroes III yet, I'm half temped to buy a Steam Deck OLED to replicate that. TDP does not equal power consumption. Steve from Gamers Nexus called it "voodoo mysticism" and it's certainly true for AMD CPUs especially where TDP formula doesn't use power consumption at all. At least in the past it used to be closer in case of Intel CPUs however that's only at base clock speed. If the CPU is boosting then it will use more power than the TDP suggests. Undervolting is definitely worth doing. Not only will it drop your power consumption but it will also reduce your fan noise. As manufacturers become better at getting the most performance out of CPUs and GPUs at stock, overlocking is becoming a lot less worth it as you've shown in the video. Edit: one thing to remember when talking about PC part power consumption is the efficiency because that determines how much power a given part needs to do a specific amount of work (for example rendering a video). This is an area where the Ryzen X3D CPUs shine when running a workload that benefits from its larger L3 cache. IIRC GN started measuring power efficiency starting with their 5800X3D review.

[@VADemon]

phone charger: and only if you got the right cable and only if the quick charging protocol is supported both by phone and charger.

[@Potatonater-it7gw]

also for the phone, most will only pull high current with the sceen off

[@PaladinofRealm]

8:45 Correction: The AM4 Socket doesn't max out near 100W, my R5 1600X consumes roughly 120W at 3,85GHz and it's may rated boost is at 4,0 GHz.

[@Yoshi92]

In all my 31 years on this planet I have NEVER seen a *heated drying rack* lol. Interesting video, as always here. Keep it up man :) 🏆

[@bripbrap]

Your frugality is admirable. I wish i could be as dedicated as you

[@VraccasVII]

9:14 One underreported issue with running a high resolution display at high refresh rates is that most GPUs will have to run their memory at relatively high clocks. It won't happen on every setup, but on some you might see a drastic change in idle power consumption when dropping refresh rate or resolution, because you can now run a deeper idle state.

[@asuasuasu]

to be more precise, the problem isn't as much refresh rate as it is timings. this clarification is important, because it means there can be a lot of weird interactions especially when you have multiple monitors, and even between monitors at the same resolution and refresh rate. on high end graphics cards with a lot of VRAM, the difference can be a whole 80W at idle, purely burnt to keep the memory in a high frequency state. the GPU tries to find times to downclock memory, and whether it is able to entirely depends on when the GPU actually has to upload frames to the monitor. in practice, it is actually even more nuanced than this, because specific hardware and firmware features can make a big difference (e.g. between RDNA2 and RDNA3). example: with my 7900XT, idle is 10W with 1440p@240Hz + 1080p@60Hz but it is 70~90W with 1440p@240Hz + 1080p@70Hz... or even 1080p@50Hz!

[@vadnegru]

My last gpu (Sapphire rx580 pulse) idle at 30W. 6600xt is idling at like 6, using 1080@144hz display. I confirmed this with power meter, 90 vs 70ish W for whole PC.

[@Auziuwu]

I have an RTX 4090 and my idle draw is 15w, my old GTX 1660 had an idle draw of 25w. even tho the 4090 can draw up to 500 watts at max power, its still crazy efficient. I have my gpu set to 70% max power and I only lose like 5% fps. I have a 4K 165hz monitor too and a 1080p 60hz 2nd monitor. Just make sure you don't have "prefer maximum performance" enabled in NVCP because that will lock idle power draw to 60w or higher even on idle.

[@Mortal-san]

how do you always drop the content i never knew i needed O.O ngl this is peak content

[@hundvd_7]

5:50 Heroes 3 is truly worth every penny of investment

[@somerandomguy___]

This is actually very insightful and makes me want to buy one myself because I bet we all severally underestimate and overestimate the power consumption of some things in our houses.

[@vocassen]

Before you indulge in that excess, check if your city will lent you one - here in germany, you can actually just lent one from the Verbraucherzentrale (with a small deposit)

[@GoldSrc_]

@@vocassenBro, those things are cheap lol.

[@Incommensurabilities]

There's also a big difference between peak power and cumulative use. My 10W server that's on 24/7 uses more than my 2000W microwave i use for a couple minutes a day. Nice thing is that these meters have built in kWh consumption recording

[@JacobFraps]

I got one used for 4 dollers​@@GoldSrc_

[@AIC_onyt]

@@Incommensurabilitieswhat do you use as a server? a sff pc or some weird asrock rack mobo

[@sleambean]

This is the best caboosing. It's literally used when you've stretched the concept in the video to its furthest possible point. Perfection.

[@Catzzye]

5:59 the chills that ran through me!! don't look at me all pensive like!!

[@FatSn8ke]

3:31 some OLED TV/monitor will perform image cleaning in standby mode so it is not advisable to unplug it after use

[@meesguyy]

Word of warning, especially with the drying numbers. A Watt is just 1 Joule of energy per second, so Power is energy over time. Power over time (watts per hour in the video at 1:15) is a nonexistent thing, Joules per second per second (or Joules per sec squared if you prefer) doesn't mean anything. Multiplying the wattage by time at 1:20 should not return a total amount of watts - power is a rate not an absolute amount independant of time - so those figures should be in watt hours, a unit of energy that is more easy to work with in households than converting everything to Joules. Sorry if this seems a bit rambly and repitious.

[@king_james_official]

true!!!!

[@roge0]

An electric heat pump dryer will consume a lot less power than a conventional electric dryer. It's a larger upfront investment and will dry slower than a conventional dryer. But you won't have to install a dryer vent and would still be a massive upgrade over your drying rack.

[@NameNotFound-hb5ef]

I cannot stress how much I enjoyed this video. Thank you so much, now I gonna get my own watt-o-meter.

[@AntonioNoack]

@3:57 if your screen is OLED, it may run anti-burn-in cycles after turning it off.

[@Tomiply]

0:50 It's likely not fast charge compatible with your phone, even if it's a 65W charger. There's a hand shake going on between phone and charger, and if it doesn't play nicely, it won't charge at its best speed. This has happened with some phones I've used. 1:25 What the? It takes about 12 hours for our clothes to dry here in Norway just sitting on a rack without a humidifier or a heated rack. Maybe it's just less humid where I live lol

[@Macrossuu]

god i love how you just have an enthusiasm for life and things

[@TheMobilityMechanic]

1:20 The Watt is a unit of power, not energy. You pay for energy which is measured typically in kilo-watt-hours. 1:40 The meter you have may be measuring the large reactive power of the transformer aswell as the active power. Typically consumers dont pay for reactive power.

[@KevinEF]

For my air drying setup, I just use a normal rack a bit spaced out using Hangers with a fan pointed at it at low setting. The fan has a filter behind it built in and uses around 40 watts. This was so that I didn't need to spend $2.50 per load on a public dryer. But the airflow is enough to decrease the drying time greatly if the clothes is getting proper airflow. The filter is nice since I have a cat, so I'd have it on 24/7 anyways.

[@HamidKarzai]

Watts is the instantaneous power use, Watt-Hours will tell you how much actual energy is used. Your measuring plugin adapter thing very l likely has a function to record watt hours over time, this will give an accurate account of how efficient something is and how much it costs you to do certain tasks

[@mateuspinesi]

A gaming PC nowadays serves double duty, as a gaming machine and a room heater.

[@Al-no2fm]

I was the same about the tumble dryer but its such a luxury I cant live without now. 1. ALWAYS do a 2nd highspeed spin on washer 2. Dont bother with super absorbant clothes in the dryer/towels 3. DO however keep a couple of DRY towels in there and put it on the lowest settings. Its an fantastic "hack" RE: 4090, have you considering also undervolting? i here you can massively reduce wattage.

[@Kirmo13]

more than 1 in 10 people that watched the video liked it. That's a very very high amount, you should be proud of your work 👏

[@hizzousekakashi8836]

For drying your cloths if you want to save on electricity I suggest using a spin dryer, it has no heat it just spins your cloths for about a minute or two so they're only a little damp instead of fully soaked, really cuts down on the drying time.

[@chickennoodle6620]

There is a clear reason that plasma TVs never caught on and have been replaced by LED or LCD. The power efficiency is so much better.

[@meucelularkrl]

3:11 so what really bog down on a laptop battery would be the increase in gpu use when changing a laptop refresh-rate, always thought that the screen refreshing more than double the amount of times would be more... significantly power wise.

[@Knightik1]

5:58 That look was creepy as hell.

[@munitiondragon69]

And yet it was also the best part of the video.

[@sntslilhlpr6601]

That boiling tap water is terrifying. The amount of times someone had just turned the hot water off and I turn on the cold water to wash my hands and get a hot surprise... Brits must really love their tea.

[@fablearchitect7645]

I had a look at the AC current harmonics on that NP-C1000M power supply and 10% THDi is not great. Typically this should be below 5% at full load to minimize impact on the grid. Even a more then 10 year old power supply like the ax1200 has only 3% THDi at full load.

[@voyagerrock1137]

this video is the philip version of "look at this epic stick i found!" and i'm all here for it

[@Hopgop1]

The microwave for example is rated for 750W output, so if you're is particularly inefficient that's not too surprising. I've had one of those watt meters for a while, great thing, made me get rid of my cheapeast possible microwave and bought an efficient one.

[@theonewithoutidentity]

1:42 That may be because 700W is the power, and 1200W just raw energy consumption. In my country the consumption is usually written on the appliance, not the power.

[@kamikazilucas]

1:00 hypothermia any%

[@ProgEnjoyer397]

How to freeze like me

[@9danny81]

Wow the timing is uncanny, I literally just spent the afternoon walking around my parents house with dad pluggin various appliances into a wattmeter to see how much they were drawing, and now I get this video.

[@IJammyJI]

There are still some power strips, very rare and hard to find nowadays which you used to be able to plug in your pc into the main socket, and when the pc is turned off it would turn off the additional plug sockets (such as other monitors etc), saving you the effort of turning monitors off when they're on standby (not sure if newer smart power strips have this).

[@xponen]

Get one from old broken hot water dispensing water kettle. It contain a board at the bottom that receive 12v input and a "Relay" that connect or disconnects main AC voltage based on that 12v input. PSU molex connector output 12v, so when the PSU turn ON 12v can be sent to the "Relay" board thru a jerry rigged wiring, which it will connect/disconnect main voltage for other appliance. The "Relay" can even be used for low voltage signalling, like to send switch-on signal to multiple other PSU to turn ON in unison. (The "Relay" board is in a neat package with connectors, so no soldering or tinkering needed, except for the wires)

[@VADemon]

master-slave config, my UPS has this and tbh i don't see it as useful unless your PC is in sleep mode and ups can detect this as "off" imho a separate toggle plug is enough

[@roboterson]

If you live somewhere cold(eg UK) and you use electric resistive heaters, (frequently called "baseboard" heaters) they are just as efficient(exactly 100%)at creating heat from electricity as your PC or any other device so there is no real point to trying hard to save power in the winter. This is why I crypto mine in the winter when its cold, might as well make a few cents back for the power cost. Even with a trash GPU, its essentially refunding a percent(for me about half with a 3070 @0.14$/kwh) of the cost of the power, while also making it harder for the other people who are just dumping the heat outside and wasting it

[@janemba42]

I feel personally attacked by the intro because i've wanted one for a while and was even looking at one in a shop the other day. Get out of my head!

[@vadnegru]

It's not that expensive and use not too much space. Also you could invest a bit more and get one with timer capability

[@Doo-l5x]

3:45 Anything that is plug in, draws power. Cut the surge protector, but note, even plugged in, the surge protector also draws power

[@Pouimatiom]

I loved the ending hahaha thank you Philip😂

[@H786...]

i cannot believe you went with the same case as my own build, i was very cost efficient and this case comes with 2 whole big fans and another at hte back , glad to see u are also the same, it was a bit of a pain to build in tbh, if i was to build again, i would choose a different case.

[@Summer-xu8qu]

I can't believe you didn't get a second watt-meter and stack them together to measure the power consumption of the watt-meter itself

[@hughjanes4883]

Who esle expected the uuuuhhhhhuuu funny song when the kliks booty show appeared

[@porina_pew]

When charging phone, you'll see highest rates if the battery is low, say below half. As it gets full it will slow down a lot. To see laptop power usage when not plugged in, see if yours can report battery drain rates. On some TVs using power when off, specifically OLED models, they will occasionally run refresh cycles to prevent screen artefacts so will use power for some time after turning off. On the PC, maybe try a lower power limit on the GPU too.

[@Dapstart]

was about to comment this myself

[@y4playiny4self]

I almost decided not to comment but I havent seen a single comment mentioning this. The microwave read is actually pretty accurate. Its important to know what you are actually measuring. There are 3 types of power you can measure, I will translate directly from german I hope nothing breaks. Rated capacity / active power Reactive power Apparent power What you are measuring is the apparent power, which is the total power. Example: The microwave is rated for 700w A microwave generally has an efficency of around 50%. That means half the power we put in to generate 700w is lost (reactive power). This means we need to put around 1400w into the microwave (apparent power) and this is what you are measuring with that device. That also means that for example your 1000w PSU ran at 5-10% less power than you have measured. It should have an efficency rating if you wanna know exactly.

[@peartreez]

Utility company: wtf is this guy up to

[@Arcental]

i once calculated how much it cost to run a minecraft server 24/7 for a month and it turns out just renting one is cheaper for me lol

[@marc235786]

i recommend drying your clothes without any heat inputs. it may take a day or two but it doesnt consume any extra energy and dryers are also not good for the clothes

[@Dionyzos]

I agree, I always just put it outside over night when it's not raining. And it's fine to dry it inside if you ventilate frequently.

[@fVNzO]

I've found that the vast majority of clothes you have to clean often (tshirts, underpants, joggers - towels) are very safe to throw in the dryer. But generally yes you don't need much heat just a lot of air. Expensive/fancy clothes don't need to be washed as often like overshirts and hoodies and stuff. You can ear those for a week and just air them only wash if they get dirty.

[@maskettaman1488]

Waiting a day or two to dry your clothes is insane lol

[@Hopgop1]

Doesn't really work in England unless you leave it on a radiator with the heating on, the humidity is usually 90-100% here over winter, so clothes really don't want to dry without heat.

[@marc235786]

@@Hopgop1 i lived in NL and ireland both times in coastal cities with similar humidity and i never had issues. though you need to ventilate otherwise the air gets extremely moist

[@levitatingbusinessman2560]

I am disappointed you didnt compare the actual laptop wattage to the one reported by itself.

[@ShaggytheRodgers]

6:00 Phil noooooo, your gonna burn out your eyes Phil!!!

[@insu_na]

His eyes are gonna become rectangular 😭

[@xMistaBeastxGames]

Appreciation comment for subtitles! Watched at very low volume with sleeping gf nearby and they helped

[@Dionyzos]

Heated drying racks are a thing!? It just dries by itself, you just have to be a little patient. There's really no need to waste power on that.

[@ThisRandomUsername]

Yeah. A bit of airflow goes a long way towards drying clothes.

[@Dionyzos]

@@2kliksphilip I live in Germany. I leave it out for a night when it's not raining and take it inside after that. Ventilating frequently keeps the room dry enough to prevent mold on the walls. My one room appartment is heated with electric floor heating which is extremely expensive and inefficient so I keep it at a low setting almost all the time.

[@maskettaman1488]

@@DionyzosA heated drying rack sounds so much simpler

[@Dionyzos]

@@maskettaman1488It's always simpler to pay to solve problems if you have the money. I personally like living a frugal lifestyle though and save money where possible even if I could afford it.

[@Dionyzos]

@@2kliksphilipAlso, are heated drying racks a british thing or something? I've never seen them here. Most people air dry their stuff or use a dryer (most people don't though).

[@RefleXAimerZ]

Not the video I wanted, but the one I needed

[@acmenipponair]

The reason for the fluctuation with your Laptop is that unfornatunally the typical setup for your laptop is that it will draw energy from your Battery first and when the battery drops under 97%, Windows will start the reloading process - then it spikes up until it's back at 100%. Problem: That kills your laptop battery over time, typical "planned obsolescense" case. You have two possible ways to deal with it: One is to take out the battery if you can (unfornatunally you can't with many modern laptops anymore)... Second option, much more intelligent: Go into your Laptop energy settings, go to advance setting and change your charging routines. Change the option, when your Laptop starts charging, when the battery is lower than 50%. And, to give your Laptop battery a longer life time, change the maximum charge to 70-80%, not 100%. then your battery shouldn't wear out anymore, as a. you don't have constant loading spikes and b. you don't as you shouldn't, load to full capacity or even short times above that.

[@SimonMeulenbeek]

This is false. With li-ion batteries it's better to keep them topped up. A charge cycles that charges the battery from 95% to 100% is less damaging than going from 40% to 100%.

[@phoenixvance6642]

Its funny that everybody thinks "mortified" means "terrified"

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

And that why everyone goes to AMD for hi-end cpu nowadays. Intel REALLY put too much effort in doing same thing for so long.

[@brandon0981]

Everyone? Lol, would love to see the numbers backing that up

[@MrTuxy]

@@brandon0981 Of course not everyone but the 7800x3d has been the best selling desktop CPU for some time now.

[@lycanthoss]

But there is no comparison to AMD in this video. In fact, AMD CPUs are known to use more power at idle due to their chiplet nature. It would be pretty nice if Philip could test an AMD build in a similar way. Though I remember another youtuber called Tech Notice comparing CPU power consumption in the same way and the Intel CPU won in power efficiency in some video rendering/work apps IIRC.

[@miquelcristino]

How many years ago? @@lycanthoss

[@lycanthoss]

@@miquelcristino it was 1 year ago for 13th gen vs zen 4 :)

[@9998thegrimeater]

Sending Marty back to 1985 required about 403 kettles worth of electrical energy

[@RealJustPotato]

That's a lot of power

[@marcelbromm2625]

a lot of power for a powerful man!

[@helix1079]

I don’t know why I expected you to try drying your clothes in the microwave, but I did.

[@ShreddedShredder0]

I remember back in the day when computer power usage was compared to one light bulb. That's one incandescent light bulb. Now we have LED bulbs and computers use much more power, so they literally use 50 times more power than a conventional bulb. It's also interesting that you post this video now because I ordered my power meter just last week. I used to have a Kill-A-Watt about ten years ago, which I should have kept. Also, that boiling water tap is terrifying.

[@stevethepocket]

I can do you one better on that boiling water tap. They make ones that are separate from the main tap and look and operate exactly like the mounted soap dispensers they used to have in my school's restrooms. Guess how I found this out.

[@hedgehog3180]

Computers are still insanely efficient from a thermodynamics point of view, it's just about what you use that efficiency on.

[@mdnan]

This is the best content on youtube and idk why i like it so much

[@kimmyksbro3116]

Sorry (You can dry clothing in cold weather) Winter weather in the UK is often too damp to dry clothes effectively. Your laundry dries when water evaporates from your clothing into the surrounding air. There are a few factors involved in drying clothes: Heat Humidity Agitation (movement) Ideally, every laundry day would provide sun (heat), dry air (low humidity) and wind (agitation), but we all know that’s not reality, especially in winter and especially in the UK. It is possible to dry laundry outside on the clothesline in cold weather, however, cold temperatures will make the process much slower. No matter the temperature, a sunny day will usually provide the conditions necessary to eventually get your clothes dry, especially with the addition of wind. Humidity is where things get tricky. For evaporation to occur, the air around your clothes needs to be drier than your clothes themselves: the drier the air, the faster evaporation will occur. Unfortunately, British winters are typically damp and rainy, making the process slower again.

[@kimmyksbro3116]

@@2kliksphilip No problem Think about how much money you safe, its free 👍

[@Mutaburasaurus]

Just dry the clothes indoors during the winter? The air indoors is usually very dry during the winter, so the clothes should dry fairly quickly.

[@Geo64x]

@@Mutaburasaurus We don't usually have any air con in the UK so the indoor RH matches the outdoor RH pretty accurately (maybe even higher because there's people breathing out moisture in the room)

[@orangea9458]

​@@2kliksphilipsomething I've tried is running my fan pointed at my clothes line. This dried my clothes in seemingly less time than the number you quoted, without a heated clothesline. I don't know how much my fan consumes but some rough napkin maths puts it at 1/4th of your setup or less. Give it a try!

[@Excalibur13]

Yeah don't bother with Americans from the south, it's 24 degrees year round in California and Texas, more of that damp humidity is in Florida on the coast.

[@palaashatri]

Philip is on is his Chuck McGill mode right now? Please do see a doctor if you see yourself in a space blanket soon.

[@Petch85]

If you have an OLED screen it will run anti burn-in programs when turned off. I would recommend you keep it plugged in to minimize burn-in. You can also try measuring the kWh used over a much longer period of time. The standby power will drop when the tv is finished with it's anti burn-in program. That said I hate stand-by power and love heroes of might and magic 3 like a normal human. 😛

[@dawaeleader5771]

This is the first time I've heard of this, so is the burn in issue solved or not?

[@11037-alex]

​@@dawaeleader5771it's not solved, but it reduces the rate of burn in. That is if you don't have static elements in the same place for extended periods of time. Like windows taskbar/channel logo(i think nowadays they move it a bit so it doesn't cause issues, but not sure since haven't watched tv in quite a bit of time.)/etc.

[@theelicht]

This was a really interesting video to watch. Might get mine out of the drawer and start measuring everything!

[@himynameisben95]

try using greaseproof baking paper instead of tin foil in the air fryer

[@kabi6455]

now imagine how much power is being wasted to train ai to become a giant plagiarism machine

[@squidwardo7074]

Bruh I would spend all day plugging this into random things around the house

[@AlleyKatPr0]

Teevees run screen cycles on standby, and if you want to keep your teevee looking good, you would be best advised to keep the teevee in standby, especially if it is an OLED teevee. Also, get solar panels and perhaps a heat pump to get that hot water for free, and can get combo pumps which can double-up as air conditioners in the summer to keep you cool. If you ask your electrical/power company about this, they will have a special hotline for you to cool...if you excuse my pun, and they are expected to offer fitting and installation services, by law.

[@tatrabojec]

appreciate the homm soundtrack in the background

[@sIippo]

Fun fact: your brain consumes 20 watts of electricity. Computers consume hundreds of watts, and still cannot match the computational capabilities of your brain. Sure computers can do maths fast, but look at the most advanced AI systems that attempt to rival human intelligence. They use thousands of watts of power, despite having lackluster intelligence; they require gigabytes of training data to grasp concepts we would call simple. Its not about how many watts you're using, its what they're used for.

[@Baconator20000]

​​@@2kliksphilip virgin The human brain is more capable at basic computations than ai vs Chad give it a few years

[@дигл_лайв]

Fun fact: it took human brain millions of years to become what it is today from the moment it became a thing. While modern computers were invented ~60-70 years ago and LLM type AI has been around for less then 10.

[@santiagobodhi7075]

Best i can do is 12

[@TurntableTV]

@@2kliksphilipDon't fall for the AI trap.

[@MultiZymethSK]

Speak for yourself, my brain is at around Pentium 4 performance.

[@FatSn8ke]

3:12 fun fact: some display cards consume up to 50W more idling power outputting a still image at 360Hz than at 60Hz

[@MrKentoNion]

0:03 Living in Russia, here I literally don't care how many anything eats electricity. My electricity bill is around 5€

[@jamieknight326]

This video made me smile. Thanks for making it :)

[@alpha13sierra]

I've recently done a power consumption comparison on my PC between Windows 11 and Ubuntu. Windows was consistently all over the place when idle, ranging from 135W to 165W. Ubuntu was using "just" 115W. So your laptop might be fine, it's the OS that's causing those power surges because of the badly implemented power management system.

[@Winnetou17]

It's just the power settings alone. Well, the design of the laptop and its components matter a lot too, especially for the idle power. On the OS side, more often than not, Windows is actually better than Linux, even though Linux theoretically should be much better, as it's much more lightweight. But often times it doesn't have the controls, the drivers to fully tune it. On Windows, even if it's bad, you have pretty good controls too, you can certainly do it better manually if it's badly configured out of the box.

[@alpha13sierra]

@@Winnetou17 you might want to read my comment again. On the same hardware I tested both Windows 11 (Balanced power plan) and Ubuntu (v22.04, Balanced power plan). Consumption in idle was as follows: Windows 11, fluctuating between 135W-165W; Ubuntu 22.04: constant 115W. Both operating systems were left in their default config, no changes made. On both operating system you can change the power plan from the Settings menu or tune the hardware, but that's not the point.

[@Winnetou17]

@@alpha13sierra I did read correctly. I'm just saying that it's not (yet) representative of the landscape, so to speak.

[@jackwisniewski3859]

This feels like an extremely classic kliks video, full of that kliksphillip flavour, very enjoyable.

[@SirBobson]

It uses 42

[@bastiaanwees7482]

are you gay ?

[@morphious86.]

21

[@Maurice.-.]

wdym its 3000

[@1996Pinocchio]

What about the fridge, washing mashine, etc?

[@engie3953]

Im sorry philip but this video makes it look like your living in a crack den

[@Phasma]

HEROES III MENTIONED!! I help maintain the wiki for the game and it always makes me smile to see people still enjoying it all these years later!

[@HIRVIism]

Bruh using the same unit for power and and energy is cringe

[@zomt420]

And that's why I use the steamdeck to download big games. It uses max. 20 Watts, which is 3 times less than my PCs idledrain

[@b4ttlemast0r]

What is 150 "watts per hour" supposed to mean? Watt is already a unit of energy per time (specifically, joules per second). The watt hour is a unit of energy, equivalent to 3600 watt seconds (aka joules).

[@ChuckN0rr1st]

As somebody working in the field of electronic test&measurement, I can tell you, re-testing all your appliances with a high performance powermeter would surprise you probably even more. The measurement frequency and precision of your powermeter does not really paint a good picture of what the devices really use. Many devices (especially with logic boards) draw power in pulses that you usually miss with cheaper meters. The calculation differences can sometimes be off not in percentage, but in magnitude… still very interesting 👍

[@adomasgrigolis]

Hey Philip, one thing about those toothbrush chargers is that they consume energy passively as radiation. In fact every coil charger does this, but phone chargers are smart so they disable power consumption while it's not detecting a phone. The thing is that those coils can get a little hot if left all the time, so there is at least some energy dissipation. It's not much but worth mentioning.

[@NKorru]

I had fun from watching a premiere video. I didn't expect that but as always, good video.

[@DedmenMiller]

I recently got my smart home stuff set up. Including smart plugs with integrated power meters. Great stuff to have! Its not only one plug to measure power, its 4 plugs, that can remotely be turned on/off and measure the power and also log all the power usage in a few second intervals and store that data for however long I want to keep it! I didn't test my monitors in standby as I never leave them on. My whole network stuff (router, raspberry pi home server thing, and LTE router for internet) only uses 10w. Thinking that my whole connection to the outside world uses less power than a monitor in standby seems nuts. I also got my power companies stuff integrated and can see my hourly energy consumption. Can very clearly see when my PC is on.

[@BenjaminEmm]

This video was fantastic! Moving into my first home soon (with the same crypto complications you had! - thanks for that video by the way!) this is really interesting. I’ll definitely be trying this on all my stuff!

[@IV-A]

Beware! Do not disconnect oled tv/monitor from the mains when off. Oleds do panel maintanence periodically when turned off. Also my monitors consume some watts after turnoff, but after 2minutes ot goes to under a watt.