How Much Power Will A 2004 GT With 180,534 Miles Make?

[@itsMYtc]

I'd like to see fresh engine oil, plugs, 93 octane, engine air filter if the fender mount is dirty and clogged. Any other maintenance things that could need addressing and then back on the dyno. But maybe do a compression test before all of that to verify how healthy the engine is.

[@deansapp4635]

Yes, everything you said plus drive the car hard for about a week. I ll bet it picks up 20 to 25 hp

[@m.b.3916]

93 octane will result in lower power unless the timing is bumped, this is not a high compression motor, doesnt need more that 87 octane

[@joer5057]

@@m.b.3916 care to explain "lower power" with 93? I agree, it likely wouldn't see much (if any) gains assuming that it isn't seeing any knock as-is. But lower power? Highly doubtful, imo.

[@ZNX05]

@@deansapp4635 how do you drive a high mile gasser hard without breaking the trans or something with the engine. ?

[@buckmclean8391]

Joe R because higher octane fuel actually contains less energy per gram. Because the octane additive put in provides little if any energy in the combustion process, it’s only purpose is to resist detonation. If this motor does not have a tendency to detonate due to it’s relatively mild compression ratio, then high octane fuel will provide no detonation resistance, therefore no effect on ignition timing, but will come with slightly lower energy output when burned. But I bet it would hardly be noticeable, if at all.

[@OhMrZack]

I’m a GM guy, but the New Edge Mustangs always have a place in my heart. Especially the 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R & Saleen S281, absolute beautiful cars.

[@ol_smokey9370]

I feel the same about the Camaros from this era. They both looked good.

[@mustang8206]

Well real car guys don't only like one brand. I've always owned Mustangs but that's only because of price. I still love GM and Mopar.

[@mustang8206]

@@ol_smokey9370 Camaros were super ugly

[@ol_smokey9370]

@@mustang8206 I always liked the Catfish camaros although the interiors were awful. I've had 3 99-04 Mustangs though.

[@RJon2006]

Keep it a 2V please. Put some TFS heads, cams, intake. I want to see it make 350 RW NA.

[@elevate_y0urmind]

LMAO its a 2 valve. It won't make 350whp with bolt ons, heads, cams and intake. You just saw it make 218. No way in hell is it gonna see 350whp NA. Lmao! Come on man 132whp gain from N/A mods. Sorry, not happening.

[@TheBrandonDawson]

That is a pretty far stretch lol

[@racequad9]

@@elevate_y0urmind Exactly! Honestly, throwing money at mustang that isn't a 5.0, cobra, or gt500 is a waste. Sorry 2v, 3v, and v6s stang but it's true

[@philtripe]

@@racequad9 modifying any car is a waste...its done for fun and modifying a pos is smarter than thrashing a car that could be worth something someday...but of course we will see if mom and dad buy anything more expensive than a quad

[@mr.g3029]

made 400 with a cam intake accufab and ported Pi heads...just sayin

[@edwarddavis596]

I can't wait to see you guys fix her up. She's been neglected. 😔

[@myksanchez1222]

I neglect my cars and they dont look HALF as bad as that thing...

[@ross64rob]

Waco car thats why.

[@gtaashwagandhaman7551]

Nobody Asked and it's a Mustang so STFU

[@floof4444]

mustangs are tough. For this thing to be in such bad shape it must have been to hell and back

[@edwarddavis596]

@@myksanchez1222 then friend you don't know what neglect is lol. Pushing your car hard is not neglect. Not taking care of your car is.

[@jrag1000]

218 hp and it still sounds sweet.

[@ironpanther2420]

Just think, it made 218 at the wheels while the non PI 2V made 215 at the crank.

[@P71ScrewHead]

@@ironpanther2420 the engine needs a tune up..lol My 95 npi Lincoln Towny made 175rwhp with one quart of oil in the motor, didn't know i had an oil leak when i dynoed it..lol My 09 P71 made 222rwhp all stock so it's where it should be if that Mustang is stock, will dyno it now that it has longtubes n Marty tune..

[@andrewrainbolt5147]

I literally just bought a 2003 GT with 165k on it 3 days ago to revive it! Im so glad you guys are doing this!

[@mikeross111]

My old 01 GT (auto) with plenum,tb, cold-air intake, asp pulley, off road pipe, a bunch of suspension mods, 373 gears, tune made 241/286. Numbers weren't great but it ran consistent 13.4's with drag radials.

[@realrickharrison3103]

Daddy’s monies

[@brannonbarakat457]

@@realrickharrison3103 your broke

[@realrickharrison3103]

Brannon Barakat I make my own monies person man. You use you daddy’s credit card

[@viperraptorrodriguez8164]

Rick l have something to pown it 😅😅

[@clintcastillo1510]

Hard to believe

[@mdaniels07]

The bbk air intake was put on by either Tyler or the previous owner. The drive shaft was on sale and is a Denny aluminum driveshaft. Picked it up for the same price as a stock drive shaft. The rear gears are 3.73, not 3.27 - birthday gift. Yes, I owned the car but never got to a point where I had the funds to revive it.

[@P71ScrewHead]

Good to know, thanks..

[@302hobronco]

Owning a competition orange new edge is on my bucket list. Can't wait to see what you guys do.

[@wickedlilthing]

I absolutely love mine!!

[@MikeStang2004]

I can't wait to see what they do to this SN-95 New Edge Mustang! Love that they are still working on this mustangs!

[@modlist6129]

I wish my employer would do the same to me! How do I apply for a job at lmr lmao

[@bluegrassgarage]

Love the video, we just did some work to one also. Its mechanically 99% stock also with 200K and running strong.

[@DeLonghe_P_Ness]

I can't wait to see their parts list...I need it for my Crown Vics.😜

[@mufeez666]

Something about the sound of a mod motor that I just cant get over, to me they sound way better than anything out there today, aside from the GT350, now I have a couple of cars with mod motors, 2v, 3v and 4v, I went the easy route and just supercharged them along the years but I never really seen any well built NA 2v or 3v that made a lot of power back in the day, since the 5.0 everyone seemed to have just ditched these and never looked back, wonder if today the aftermarket could support these mod motors NA and we can have High power mod motors specifically the 2v.

[@michaell6335]

I love the 2 valve and 4 valve 4.6s. They are so different from everything else out there today. Very simple, they don't even have cam phasers. Just something about them makes them special...

[@ahmeda3227]

Trick flow top end kit will make 320-340 rwhp from a 2v 4.6, it’s just way easier and better for the money to turbo them with rods and pistons and make 600+

[@gt-37guy6]

@@michaell6335 I am glad you said that...I owned a 97 Crown Vic Intercepter when I lived in San Diego. 88k miles when I got it....the 4.6 2V drivetrain on that particular car was Soooo tight and smooth and somehow faster than it should have been..! I miss that car even though I have 3 faster cars now!

[@XxIBRAHIMxX11]

There’s a mach 1 (4v) made more than 400rwhp with bolt-ons and cams only last year on (E-85) which no one uses on these engines / also a 01’ cobra with a stroker kit n/a 1/4 beast < both of them are here on KZbin

[@P71ScrewHead]

@@gt-37guy6 i have an 09 P71 with 345/40r17s on 17x12 widened steelies..lol Take a look if you'd like on my channel, love my P71..

[@davidgoodrich4745]

i like the honesty ...your not padding the numbers ....it is what is

[@cruzanity7478]

A lot of fellow KZbinrs have been getting rid of these gems. It’s nice to see another video series of the new edge stangs 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@joemckibben5729]

Im building my 99 2v right now. Love your channel and your products. Cant wait to see what you do with it.

[@Alexander5R]

That gen is my favorite looking Mustang, and the exhaust sounds so sweet. I just subscribed to see how it turns out the restoration.

[@stevedowney4056]

Really do you think that thing looks better than a 68 - 70 fastback

[@yammmit]

how do you think this looks good? this is what every 90 year old woman where I live drives.

[@angelgjr1999]

Steve Downey Fora modern Mustang, the New Edge is one of the best looking stock. I always thought the 05 to 09 Mustang looked ugly and cheap.

[@Alexander5R]

@@stevedowney4056 That would be my second probably.

[@Alexander5R]

@@yammmit Well, maybe it's because I grew up with this design, my favorite Mustang would be the Cobra R from 2000 (was ten at that time, but found out about that car in 2006). To be fair I haven't owned any Mustang and probably never will, specially if the S650 GT is going to be hybrid/turbo. Also, you are right, this gen is one of the most common and the interior is super cheap, but there is something almost timeless about the design of this gen for me. The S550 before the current facelift was also good looking, but is not a timeless design for me.

[@LoshJysic]

Its a 2004 GT running on 87. Thats pretty much what you should expect from it on a dyno. They only made like 260 horse to the crank brand new. 218 to the wheels after 16 years sounds about right

[@kennethmonson]

Oh wow this is pretty cool. I didn't realize you had stuff like this on the channel, thought it was just quick how-to to support the site (which is great btw). Looking forward to seeing this develop.

[@eugenechurch6135]

These dyno videos are the highlight of my day.

[@seagrass7125]

You’re onto something, seeing how rando cars dyno is cool.👍🏻

[@socksonfeet8125]

this body style still looks awesome, considering everything went back to looking like the old 60's cars it really stands out.

[@themeatnpotatoes]

For being rated at 260 from factory at the crank, I don’t think this is too bad power wise. It’s got mods but nothing that would drastically change the power output

[@tylerspecht7553]

Yea I agree tbh it's tuned on 87 swapping to 93 tune would literally probably bump the power up 15-20hp on its own. Mods wise intake is maybe worth a couple hp, x pipe a couple hp, catback a couple hp and thats pretty much it. Motor still seems pretty healthy as far as I'm concerned

[@yammmit]

Hearing about reviving cars reminds me of a ‘91 NSX not far from me that’s been parked for 10+ years. NSX is my dream car but it’s not for sale and I doubt I’d have the money to fix it.

[@eddiegreen4281]

Bought a 04 40th anniversary gun metal gray gt in 2004 ... with about 10k miles. Was my daily driver until about two years ago. Had over 150k when I traded it.... gave me a thousand dollars trade in lol. Over that time I replaced the ball joints. starter.....alternator....clutch...battery...intake manifold.... and the heater core busted... had to bypass it. Was a good car for the most part.... definitely under powered.

[@CactusBoi420]

2:16 what at least most of us came for..

[@LthlMustang]

I miss my 2000 GT, Can't wait to see what you do with this

[@elbros5325]

Nice, new edge content! Still gotta restore my '02, 254,xxx miles, PATS issue came up and now won't start... But I don't want to get rid of it!

[@SVTAdamSVT]

This is the build I've been waiting for. .. gonna be great.. I have my own 2V

[@silversonic99]

gross. should have gotten 4v

[@mercury0214]

@@silversonic99 gross. You should gain some self confidence and let others enjoy life.

[@mercury0214]

@@silversonic99 wow nice smash videos you virgin

[@fusionsfl]

Im working on a 2v on my channel. Im going turbo, I wonder what there plans for power adders will be. Love the content keep it up Guys!!

[@RaceGasSmellsGood]

Me too, well, it was! We just ended up Coyote swapping it. But the supercharged two valve setup was strong! I’ll checkout your channel!

[@TheHtown123]

Gonna drop a 5.4L 2V into mine. The engine just hit 200k. Can't wait to see the upgrades for that pony!

[@RangerDanger074x4]

F150/expedition 5.4? That’s gonna be awesome!

[@TheHtown123]

@@RangerDanger074x4 it's a excursion 5.4L hardly any difference between that. From a 2002

[@backdoormailman]

30 ft lb gain

[@backdoormailman]

For a motor swap lol

[@ironpanther2420]

Just beware, the 4.6 intake will not fit the 5.4 due the higher deck height. Also, you'll have to run exhaust manifolds as well because long tube headers won't clear the floor pans on Mustangs with the 5.4 swap. I've looked into this for my Mustang and it can be done but I don't think it's worth the hassle for what little you gain in mostly torque. But if you already know this and have everything for the swap, I say go for it. No replacement for displacement.

[@maxwellclark7054]

Coworker of mine had one of these with that same intake. He took me for a ride in it. Immediately i could tell it was down on power. I checked it out and found there was no filter on the intake. I asked him about it and he said he'd never checked the filter. He bought it from a used car lot 3 years ago with that intake already on it. Wish we could have dyno'd his car to see how much power it made after sucking up dirt, water, leaves and rocks for 3 years without a splash guard.

[@Highlander1432]

Your friend sounds like he's been sucking up dirt, water, leaves and rocks

[@martinmartinez8161]

That's actually pretty decent numbers considering the miles on that motor. These engines don't respond that well to mods on the stock heads. I've seen full bolt on new edges put down 230-240 hp and 280-300 torque. I have a stock 02 gt so this'll be fun to watch.

[@taizenmw]

What heads do you reccomend to really improve the power on the 2v?

[@P71ScrewHead]

@@taizenmw TrickFlow 38cc heads!!

[@PAFORM350]

Appreciate you guys putting out real videos

[@1991tommygun]

I love these cars, people treat them like trash most of the time but atleast where you guys are rust dosent seem to be a big issue like where i live

[@NicholasTSilveira]

Before you revealed the dyno numbers, I estimated it would make exactly 220. And then when you said 218.. goddamn I laughed out loud. Just for reference I have an 04 gt with bbk cai, 75mm tb, long tube headers, catted x pipe, and slp loudmouth axleback, tuned by mustang magic it makes 259whp, and I'm at 130 thousand miles

[@kushandcars2429]

post an exhaust vid

[@2Long2type]

What long tube headers and catted xpipe do you have?

[@NicholasTSilveira]

@@2Long2type both are BBK

[@NicholasTSilveira]

@@kushandcars2429 exhaust vid is up lol...10 months later

[@SGTRacing]

Please dont leave me short like yall did with green bean! Please actually stick with the 2v!!

[@JWGARCIA79]

SGTR where you from?

[@donniebaynard8430]

What's up with the "new edge" terminology for these cars? I don't get the terminology or how it applies. Like the squarebody chevys, that makes sense, but I don't get this. Can someone explain. Thanks in advanced.

[@nite82hawk]

More new edge content! Yay!

[@RaceGasSmellsGood]

I said the same thing! Love me some New Edge content!!

[@coletrick8748]

Dang 250 or 260 would be amazing for a New Edge 2V. My 99 Cobra only has an H pipe, throttle body and a tune (SCT) for 91 pump gas and makes 290 whp. Does this seem right?

[@P71ScrewHead]

n/a Cobra?? Yeah..

[@AR_P71]

I thought 260 crank 220 wheel was normal for stock New Edge GTs, am I missing something? Please restore this! I want to see what is necessary to bring the 2v to full power before blowing/camming it.

[@kennethmonson]

I think it is normal, but this one has some bolt-ons so hypothetically should be doing a little better.

[@johnnyhb89]

Yeah not sure what this guy was smoking. Car and driver? dynod a new 99 gt in their a 99 z28 vs 99 gt comparo result was 217rwhp for the gt. My siblings auto 97 gt non only managed 177hp at the wheels, 190 with a tune/xpipe/Cai. Mod motors sound awesome , run forever , don't make a lot of power.

[@AR_P71]

@@kennethmonson Ah, so the car should make more than 260/220 bc it has some mods, but isn't. Thank you

[@geoffreyweaver7575]

I want to get my 150k Performance Red 01 GT w longtubes, xpipe, Slp Cat back, larger plenum and TB, and 3:73 gears up on the dyno and see what she puts down.

[@DanielLopez-ht4ov]

I remember him posting it on fbook.. can’t wait to see what you guys do to it

[@lineummup9393]

Iam a GM guy but still a fan of the looks of new edges, 2015+ Coyotes, and legendary fox body oh and 72 fastback

[@krocialblack]

Honestly I was expecting a lot worse. 218 for a pretty much high miles 2valve was kinda not bad do to the age and condition of the car. I was thinking 190ish.

[@bamaz7140]

Keep the new edge vids coming!!!

[@2.65tvs2]

Excited to see y’all bring her back strong!

[@andrewmontgomery1763]

Definitely would love to see you guys throw on some TFS heads with some L&M cams or cams from Todd Warren (that are specifically made for the non-OEM valve arrangement of the TFS heads).

[@sapperstang]

I owned a 01 and a 03 GT and a Mach 1. This car also has a Mach gauge cluster. These cars are weak compared to new cars but were pretty good in their day.

[@JonnyCrash]

Definitely was expecting more than that. My old ‘02 GT Put down 252hp with 105k, an off-road h, and Flowmaster cat back. No tune, not even a CAI. I’d like to see another pull after some basic maintenance.

[@davsquaredo79]

First thing give it a nice detail inside out literally bring it back to 2004 and we’re off to a good start 👍🏼

[@tacbear]

My 2000 GT made 241 RWHP with a Magnaflow catback!!!!! And 400hp/390tq with a Vortech V2 SQ on 10 lbs of boost!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ineedmoney4964]

Hell ya, cant wait to see what you do to it!!

[@BobSmith-in9tf]

Fully built 2v supercharger. With ford 9 inch rear end on 3.73 gears make 700 horsepower. Would be a sick build

[@twebb1]

Jeez these cars sound amazing. Can’t wait to get one

[@nuner52]

I think that you guys should an awesome N/A setup with custom cams some head work and a good intake with the correct supporting mods

[@Six2226]

Would be very blessed if yall can tune my 06 saleen so it runs reliably. Has 97k miles, all stock except brenspeed stage 2 that was put on years ago.Live bout 4 mins from yall off bagby 👍🇺🇸

[@devengudinas1649]

Do a good set of wires plugs change all of the the fluids front to back with amsoil clean up the filter and put 91 or better gas ⛽️ in it maybe even splurge and change the fuel filter then run it again. That would make for some good content . Plus it kills me that you can’t crack the door open even a foot or 3 especially with no cats that car can’t breathe

[@eezynah1731]

someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I thought looking at the cluster it was from a bullitt, *friend has one, and I've seen enough 00-04 GT/Mach/Cobra clusters. Did they use the same cluster in the 40th for the bullitt design as well?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Yes it's a Bullitt cluster! But it was swapped into the car, the 40th didn't come factory with a Bullitt cluster.

[@eezynah1731]

@@latemodelrestoration i was pretty sure that was the case. I'm a nut for the new edge cars. Bullitt with a coyote swap, billet oil pump gears, F1A94, CCW Drag Pack, and 10R80 would be a dream combo for me if I had the $$. Can't wait to see this restoration of such an amazing color.

[@cristianramos7343]

Isn't that gauge cluster from the Mach 1's?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Yes it is!

[@TheCulnes]

Its either from an Automatic Mach 1 or a 2001 Bullitt

[@CarAccelerationChannel]

wow 218whp with a few mods and a tune, this car must have been beat to hell and back. my old 04gt with a lightly modded 3v swap made 301whp and 311wtq. same trans...

[@flitewaffle5426]

Is it just me or did that sound absolutely beautiful

[@MrTrollus]

Competition Orange is such a rare but beautiful color imo

[@BlackWolf2028]

I agree. I'm actually planning to have my mustang painted competition orange at some point.

[@ryandedobbeleer8464]

Id like to see the 2v get built not another coyote swap

[@TheCulnes]

Unless its getting built for boost its kinda pointless. I wish it wasn't true because I own one.

[@paulevans7328]

Sweet 👍 can't wait to see what kind of mods you do

[@GHETTORIGGAMINGOFFICIAL]

How safe is it to throw boost at an engine with this many miles as long as compression test looks okay? Response from anyone would help, looking to get an on3 performance twin turbo kit. I’d like to stay in the safe power range for stock bottom end

[@P71ScrewHead]

Plenty safe, go for it..

[@jamdc2000]

Before the video 190bhp, after the video,.she is still running strong, you guys can make a great series with her

[@hulford90]

Following as mine is raw state and looking to upgrade

[@alpha2gproject783]

Something tells me that the car has been ran hard and put up wet. I wouldn't mind seeing ported heads and some other bolt ons. Already have about 1,000 in mods already on the car so at least it's a good starting point assuming the engine isn't hurt.

[@wickedgt7177]

My 01 gt was a factory freak went 13.48 at 102 with a 1.84 60ft spinning 1st and 2nd I. 102 degree heat beat 2 sn95 cibras full Bolton and a 99 cibra full Bolton and gears beat a ws6 full Bolton to

[@CarGuyV8]

218 rwhp is right around 260 crank at 16% drivetrain loss through a tr3650. It must be a pretty tired old engine to only push 218. Throw some tfs heads and cams and try to get it to 350 n/a. That’d be awesome.

[@tyjaebowie933]

That's the exact amount it is supposed to have from the factory

[@bwtjma183]

I am looking forward to this series very much so!!

[@champking20]

I got a deal on a 98 GT for $2000. But I’m really saving up a bit for a nice foxbody

[@macjohan]

Please make this a detailed series. The newedge community need i! 😎

[@Stephen-br6il]

If you get a chance, test a Mach1 from that gen.

[@61484]

Heck yea Nice to see a new edge project

[@Kb_2v]

Got a videos on my channel of my 2004 comp orange GT! Most of the parts on that car are from you guys.

[@TheMGChannel]

This is awesome, can’t wait to see what you guys do to it 👍🏻

[@rooh5825]

I remember the Neon SRT-4 came out right about that same time and how pissed off the Ford guys were that the SRT4 was faster than the Mustang GT. Ford made up for it in 2005 with the Retro model,

[@TheKansasDude]

Cleaning the MAF might wake it right up.

[@theroadjack3437]

Please do cams etc with install videos

[@ol_smokey9370]

Thats 218 at the wheels right? 250-270 sounds more like the crank HP rating.

[@hartsickdisciple]

I was thinking 230 whp, so 218 isn't too horribly low, considering the condition and mileage.

[@Brandon-fn6id]

Damn 218??! I have an 03 82k miles, stock except the bassani off road x pipe and flowmasters, k&n filter, pretty sure mines at least 230😬

[@superj8111]

Because it’s a healthier motor that’s for sure

[@nickadz5490]

They really needed that aluminum driveshaft?

[@waynereid9881]

I would like to see a stock 94/95 cobra on the dyno

[@legendary351]

Please do. 2001 bullitt.

[@CentralFloridaStreetCars]

The intake manifold and plenum are stock it just has the pony tore off

[@mdaniels07]

You don't even want to know how it got in that state

[@chrishernandez2490]

All those bolt on mods and still only 218hp. Wow that's a bummer.

[@umakemerandy3669]

This is cool, just got one with 180000 and same mods so its probably similar

[@itsjusta2v198]

Hey it’s close to a 96 gt stock wanna race 😂 43,000 miles rio red vert white interior white top

[@nicks9764]

Before you do anything, Compression test it. That low on hp, makes me thing the rings are worn.

[@79chevy901]

Do full exhaust, cams, and gears please!!!

[@mustangmike4078]

Looking to sell my clapped out 86 svo. What's it worth?

[@mgerren88]

1000 or so maybe

[@400hpmustang]

If it's anything like the ASC/McLaren you refurbished, I'm sure it will look amazing.

[@Jellybeans89]

Sounds good 👍

[@gvi341984]

2 weeks and no follow up video? Weight ? Cheap spark plug change ? Stock air filter

[@APSAL07]

I thought 40 th edition is just a regular V6 and not a GT?

[@latemodelrestoration]

Nope! The 40th came in a GT!

[@APSAL07]

@@latemodelrestoration It came in base v6 only too right?