How much protein you should eat and when, with Dr. Mike Israetel (PODCAST E31)

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[@aragusea]

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[@MyFriendlyPup]

✌️ ☯️ baphomet, eternity away from Christ.

[@RenaissancePeriodization]

Woooo! - Dr. Mike

[@FatherDraven]

I don't know how embarrassing your workout is, but I did giggle a bit while you were bragging about being a professional audio engineer as you recorded a video in the most echoey room known to mankind. ⦓𖺙𖹣⦔

[@MrLogo1002]

how would you increase appetite? my depression makes me function on a chipotle chicken burrito half in the morning half in the afternoon its all I can stomach

[@nonlmao]

@@MrLogo1002 personally, cooking food yourself. Mix random stuffs that feel like they would work, it improved my mental health, my diet, my cooking skill, with the only downside being time really haha

[@conquistador66]

Mike Israetel's nutrition lectures are funnier than about 90% of sitcoms made today

[@peanutnutter1]

There are funny sitcoms made today?

[@ptronic]

A kidney stone is funnier than modern sitcoms

[@caoscosmos]

He makes me crack so hard. friggn comedic genius

[@apo75018]

​@@ptronicmade me laugh out loud. Thanks!

[@Casiopeia2000]

Hear hear

[@korbinkristjanson8260]

This is the collab I didn't know I needed.

[@eliascorrea8573]

Deep down I think we all knew

[@IFBBProYeo]

I'm about to find out!!

[@kookiespace]

666 likes \o/

[@empirion502]

I did not see this crossover coming lol

[@arthchandrakar1828]

For real

[@FiFiFilth]

Listening to this is just insane whn you listened to normal influencers talk about this shit for years and years. Dr. Mike is an actual scientist and it's just so impressive to hear him talk.

[@blinry]

00:00 Introduction 00:35 What kind of doctor are you? ("A sport physiologist") 01:22 Is 1 g/lbs a good guide? ("Yes") 04:19 What happens when obese people stop eating junk? ("They lose weight") 06:29 Can I have all of my protein at one time? ("4-5 doses are more effective") 09:13 Does the body have a protein reservoir? ("It's really small, mostly skeletal muscle") 12:46 How do you sustain really low levels of lean mass? ("Work out, eat protein, sleep") 14:11 How do we metabolize protein? ("There are multiple complex pathways") 15:54 Could I eat only protein? ("Carbs have a lot of advantages, you want a good balance") 17:51 (Sponsor) 21:41 Is not using the full range of motion advantageous? ("No") 27:23 How much do genetics matter for muscle shape? ("We don't have a lot of control over it") 29:47 Why does the mid-section grow as a bodybuilder ages? ("Organ growth and fat") 33:21 Is muscle maturity just skin maturity? ("Bodybuilders over time are just able to get leaner") 37:16 (Sponsor) 40:10 Bodybuilders are often libertarian - because of drug accessibility issues? ("They could even be extremely left") 42:16 Transforming your body gives you a feeling of power. ("Willpower + genetics will take you far") 48:27 Mutual appreciation

[@terstegenisthegoat4914]

Thank you

[@alexkent2713]

Ur amazing

[@gabriel_kyne]

this comment is god tier.

[@zScrotumify]

Thanks!

[@philipkim9779]

Thank you.

[@SimonChango]

Unexpected, yet, makes so much sense given Adam's content dives a lot into lifting and nutrition.

[@WanderTheNomad]

@Chris Karleskint well that's a new type of bot. This new one is like a mix between 3 different types of bots I've seen. There's the ones that pretend to be the youtuber posting the video. The ones that form a long comment chain with other bots pretending to be real people. And that small niche of bots selling mushrooms. Edit: praise be! The bot is gone!

[@ShayanGivehchian]

Cooking + lifting both with a scientific approach is something I've been perusing independently for a while and it brings me joy that this is the place that they have come together.

[@jesseortegon3264]

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@jeremy6608]

he already did something with greg doucette also

[@weatheredtome]

Which is really getting annoying honestly.

[@godminnette2]

I just realized: Dr. Mike made a video about size vs strength, or hypertrophy vs strength, that I've been trying to refind as a result for friends for ages! Thank you so much for re-introducing me to him! Literally the best video on explaining those mechanics.

[@RenaissancePeriodization]

Glad you found it! - Dr. Mike

[@annslow41]

@@RenaissancePeriodization super glad to have found your channel! As an undergrad exercise scientist, I love this stuff! Sadly never was able to end up turning it into a career, but I'm thrilled to go through your channel and learn/relearn some of the science of exercise

[@vikingthedude]

Oh boy you have a lot to catch up with. Enjoy the RP videos!

[@godminnette2]

@@vikingthedude Hah, thanks! I'm not sure most of the content is for me - I actually dislike hypertrophy and try to optimize around strength training.

[@LykeArgy]

oh boy , at first glance i thought you were an underground exercise scientist and i wanted to know your location ...@@annslow41

[@gratefuldead4605]

I weighed 475 pounds several years ago when I finallly decided I had gotten too big. I started by quitting the soda and quitting the junk food and then I started watching my calories and I've lost over 200 pounds and am about to schedule extra skin removal surgery. I plan to start a KZbin channel to help encourage those out there to be confident in their ability to lose weight. I have found everything this man is saying to be true with my own personal weight loss. This man is a great man that is doing God's work.

[@clementinelives]

Congratulations

[@jaynuxx09]

Awesome man, would love to see the channel come into fruition, I think you would be helping out a lot of people doing that, showing what is possible with weightless and fitness ❤️‍🔥

[@techindia3602]

That's an amazing journey king 👑

[@lol22332]

Think long and hard about that surgery. I was 430 and am trying to tone myself. I will always have the stretch marks, but lose skin can be filled. The key is to have the muscles that feel good underneath the layer of lose skin. Having large surgery scars in my opinion looks worse.

[@Emil-sh6sq]

@@lol22332 Filling loose skin with muscle after weighing close to 500 lbs is probably not realistic

[@Yogizilla]

Mikes humility makes him so much more endearing. He knows his shit but he is not smug about it. God bless!

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

Adam AND Dr. Mike showing off their skills and and knowledge really well in this one. It would be AMAZING to have them on another podcast

[@kevley26]

The easiness of eating a ton of junk food vs a ton of healthy food is definitely true in my experience. Have yall ever tried eating a lot of calories worth of lentils? Pretty hard.

[@dylanwilliams7868]

With a nice dal tadka I have never found this to be the case :P so satiating though!

[@Craxin01]

Junk is cheaper and more ubiquitous than regular food. Food manufacturers make far more chopping things up and mixing them into garbage laden with tons of sugar, fat, and salt then they ever would selling you the constituent parts whole. Greed destroys everything.

[@conman1395]

If you eat plain lentils.... I guess?

[@ringocancount]

I feel like I could eat Chilli Heatwave Doritos forever

[@Crokto]

of *pure* lentils? sure but i find it difficult to eat even a small amount of just lentils haha.

[@mickidymac7144]

As another exercise science professional, this was an absolute amazing podcast. Dr Mike does an incredible job of breaking down and simplifying these concepts that can be way over complicated for anyone but elite athletes. I will definitely taking some of his explanations into my own practice in the future. 10/10, this is why you’re my favourite youtuber/podcaster Adam!

[@liamconverse8950]

I'm really not that impressed and doesn't take a peer reviewed study to know that partial reps work, also GH and insulin use 100% factors into modern bodybuilders having big guts. GH causes insulin resistance insulin resistance is a prerequisite for the accumulation of visceral fat and insulin drives storage of that fat. And these two compounds simply were not really used in 70's bodybuilding.

[@PhaythGaming]

@@liamconverse8950doctor Mike has never once claimed that partials do not work. In fact, he sometimes promotes the bottom half eccentric partials to get even more fatigue. He has only ever claimed that full rom is more efficient and that the data shows this.

[@danielstorll4537]

This is seriously my favorite KZbin collaboration that could have happened. I went from 255 to 205 cooking more of your recipes and I went from 205 to 225 with dr. Mikes work out guide lines

[@Ankara_ratgirl]

That's incredibly impressive! Congrats!

[@gregmushen597]

I’m glad Mike didn’t skip brain day.

[@taejaskudva2543]

As somebody who struggles with weight and eating, I want to say that the divide between desire and willpower is a deep chasm. I greatly admire people who devote so much energy to creating their best body while completely resenting the assumption that desire and willpower are the same thing....

[@WhatAreYouNew]

So there's 2 parts to willpower right? The willpower to do something and the willpower to restrain from doing something. If you're physically or mentally exhausted you can't necessarily force yourself to DO beneficial things from sheer willpower. What excuse is there for being unable to REFRAIN from doing something detrimental? I imagine people would say addiction, but with a support system and adequate resources, are there any addictions that can't be overcome? If 2 alcoholics both have the resources to quit, and only 1 is successful, is that not due to willpower?

[@taejaskudva2543]

@@WhatAreYouNew I think my point is that people talk about willpower like it's something you just make yourself do. And that's harder for some people. Or, to put it your way, I don't have enough willpower. It's too hard to be Mad Eye Moody. I don't have it in me to have constant vigilance, at least I don't right now. I'm not sure what support system and adequate resources I would need. I feel like the first would be more time and more sleep. At which point the willpower people say, you're just not making it a priority. To which I reply, yeah. Because it's hard to make it a priority, for a variety of reasons.

[@WhatAreYouNew]

​@@taejaskudva2543 I definitely understand the "more time and more sleep" argument in general. The thing is healthy eating doesn't necessarily have to be carefully crafted meals that drain hours of your free time. There's a tradeoff in there if you're willing to treat food as nourishment/sustenance, instead of a source of pleasure. A big bowl of oatmeal doesn't sap you of more than a few minutes to replace empty calories like a bagel or muffin in the morning -- It's extremely good for you and very satiating. 1 flavored packet of oatmeal + 1/2 cup of plain oatmeal = 310 calories. I add a splash of skim or 1% milk after cooking it. If you're like me and you make a massive bowl with 2 flavor packets and 1.5 servings of plain oatmeal, it's still only 320+225 = 545 calories. A bagel packed with cream cheese is 500 calories, the average coffee shop blueberry muffin is 470 calories. First and foremost, you need (if applicable) to get off soda or whatever calories you drink. If you can't survive off water, tea (with honey), and coffee (low sugar), then you'll never be able to have a healthy relationship when it comes to food. Need something sweet? Eat some fruit, or have a small glass of OJ. Diet soda does nobody favors. Never make yourself go hungry. You'll just end up binging afterwards.

[@SL-vs7fs]

43:00 really good commentary by Dr. Mike. As a liberal, I appreciate his perspective immensely. We have been losing the art of putting forth and listening to intellectually sincere arguments. Would love to listen to Adam do more of this content.

[@themodsify]

Yet liberal leaders on the federal level won't debate...

[@ichifish]

All I gotta say is why the hell aren't Adam and Mike doing this every week?!?! What a great pair!

[@jotchava]

Damn I really like this guy. He is actually humble as hell and conscious as frick. So much growth is needed to become and achieve what he has achieved. Sub'd.

[@Alex-mq6qi]

The combination of Mike and Adam, with their pools of knowledge and sense of humor, is amazing

[@Gigaamped]

Very much enjoyable to see civil discourse between two people that don't always share the same opinion. Thank you both for being top tier role models in that respect ♥

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

so glad you mentioned exercising the full range of motion for a joint - I can personally attest that it is the single biggest reason why I love going to the gym

[@brentgetz1594]

What an interesting combination of two minds I high respect. Thank you Adam Ragusa for being brave enough to ask such a diverse set of questions and Dr. Mike Israetel for being honest, respectful, and insightful. This is certainly not a conversation I ever expected to occur, but what a great combo.

[@mikemeskel]

I’ve enjoyed both Adam and Dr. Mike’s content for a while now. Stoked to see them together.

[@StrikerX-]

Oh man this is the best collab. So pleasant when people with their respective senses of humor can bounce off each other.

[@christostryfonopouls5204]

This feels like the avengers, two of my favorite KZbinrs from different worlds coming together to get is swole 💪🏼

[@snakedoktor6020]

...us swole??

[@DickerFetterSteinLPs]

This episode in particular has been a great influence on me. I have since watched most videos on the rp youtube channel. Dr. Mike's shared knowledge and humor have been great catalysts in the restructuring of my training plan and my adherence to it. I am in the best physical shape of my life. Thank you Adam for this introduction

[@c.r.harris]

Guest stated, “…I’m not a real Doctor…”, then launched into the intersection of 😁Organic Chemistry😁 Krebs Cycle😁Food & Nutrition Science😁Athletic Performance 😁 ! Sir, we 🫡 your academic credentials, humility, information sharing in this podcast ! 🫡

[@RenaissancePeriodization]

Look all I'm saying is that if you get sick, I can't help you lol. THAT kind of not-doctor. - Dr. Mike

[@Rodzynus]

@@RenaissancePeriodization It could be because I'm not that familiar with US etiquette on this since I grew up in Poland and live in UK now but to me better way to say it is you're not a medical doctor. If you've got PhD in any field, you're definitely a real doctor to me.

[@pantherpopel551]

@@Rodzynus I know this is 5 months old, but here in Germany m.d.'s get their ""doctor"" title with 3 months of work. Thats really a joke compared to the 3 to 5 years proper phd candidates have to invest for the title. And now we are telling them they arent "real" doctors. lol Physicians arent real doctors here is all im saying. 😀

[@jordanrelkey]

Wow, this guy comes off as 100% open tell you the facts as he knows it. I really appreciate this.

[@markm1514]

You know the guy is smart because his head is super muscular.

[@miguel_chain]

Oh Man! What a crossover!! Two great guys! Adam, thanks for showing and giving space to fitness/bodybuilding related stuff on your channel!

[@KLBoringBand]

A largely interesting episode. It’s funny to see someone who’s so careful with Adam to not speculate about science to speak off the cuff broadly about politics and especially how he perceives people who don’t agree with him politically.

[@Reggie1408]

It's not like you could just "look at the literature" to see how generational wealth works 🤷‍♀

[@hags2k]

@@Reggie1408 true - and actual politicians rarely have any more expertise than either of these guys. Folks like top tier economists - even when they’re very open about their political leanings talk VERY differently about these things than actual politicians do. In fact, the way these guys were talking about politics sounds a lot more like the way economists do than the way most politicians do. Thoughtfully and with a minimal amount of judgement on either side.

[@Mecolzn]

​@@hags2k that and also due to the fact that they've just briefly touched the subject.

[@imacarguy4065]

​@@Reggie1408Main idea is that people worked in the past and are capable of working in the present for that generational wealth and the ability to pass it on. Quite frankly, I think Americans make too many excuses.

[@thebigmanufacturer]

@@imacarguy4065 the system itself (mutually agreed upon by the most extreme on the right, the most extreme on the left, and the most moderate of centrists), is based on greed, and there is a very high correlation between greed and propensity to succeed in a capitalist society. You're saying that not wanting to be greedy in order to succeed is merely an example of "making too many excuses" and nothing more. Your commentary is very lazy and lacking in critical thought.

[@b1k027]

Wow! Big fan of both, I'm so glad this crossover happened!

[@nickhtk6285]

Excellent collaboration. More of Dr Mike.

[@nandoxus]

I love Dr. Mike. Been following him for a while. It's awesome to see him with Adam

[@teejay197]

I couldn't have loved this podcast more..Wow, so awesome range of subjects. A renaissance pod by a renaissance man. ❤

[@oklibrarian]

SWEET! I stumbled across Dr. Mike a month or two back, as I've lost 95 lbs over the past year and am VERY focused on keeping it off for good. To that end, I was looking for some good evidence-based content on reverse dieting/maintenance and kicking up my strength training a bit to add some muscle. Found his stuff, and it's helped me transition out of my calorie deficit over the last few weeks without a rebound,. I've also used his content to make some small but helpful tweaks to my (VERY basic) lifting routine. When you alluded to this crossover in last week's podcast I was kind of hoping it might be Dr. Mike... 😁

[@shawnpatten6515]

Nice job 👍🏻

[@nonlmao]

Keep going, you are doing great!

[@TheOriginalWalker]

Two worlds collide, im not complaining

[@autodidacticartisan]

Two worlds, one family. Trust your heart, let fate decide

[@doctajuice]

Really enjoyed this not because I have any interest in body building but just because I like to listen to smart people talking about stuff and this was great

[@utubeaddict29]

Great pod Adam! Dr. Mike's political thoughts were maybe the most considerate and respectful take on libertarian ideology I've heard.

[@Ryan-The-Grifter]

He said that it's easier to escape generational poverty that to get jacked. Then he tried to waffle and say maybe not but it depends on the definition of generational poverty and the "cyclical nature" of it. Weak opinion while trying to dodge the heart of the matter while clinging to his faulty assumption that poverty is the fault of the poor person.

[@pajander]

If you agree that genetics plays are huge role, that should make you a leftist, not a libertarian. Since, you know, your genes are not the result of your own hard work and dedication. You're not a libertarian if you don't believe that literally ANYONE could become the world's best bodybuilder or whatever if only they put in enough work and weren't so damn lazy.

[@flamefusion8963]

@@Ryan-The-Grifter youre just weak.

[@redwithblackstripes]

@@Ryan-The-Grifter My own father "escaped" actual third world poverty but never could put a once of muscle on his frame.What that dude said about considering variables instead of cycles is a lot more interesting than what you call waffling... A system is more than the sum of its parts and its parts are more than the system they're part of.

[@Flokirie]

This video is the best possible answer to all of my recent googlings over the past few days trying to understand weightlifting. Thank you for this!

[@danielh1793]

Love both of your channels. Thanks for making the collab happen :)

[@SilverSlugs16]

Commented on your creatine video saying I loved how you were getting more into lifting and fitness. Dr Mike has already been one of my favorite fitness related content creators for years. We’re in the best timeline.

[@robertmurray4488]

Listen to this man! I am a beginner currently recovering from a back injury because I was not squatting full range of motion! I have also had the best results of my life with cutting AND bulking by following the diet advice. Gains and losses are made in the kitchen not the gym, but remember to still enjoy life, it can be easy to become obsessed with weight in our culture. If you worked hard in the gym and fueled your body with what it needs, its OK to have some ice cream with your kids or beer with friends!

[@ZaoStrength]

Environmental circumstances absolutely play a role in fitness outcomes. Sources needed deeply. Saying “it seems to be” is not a source.

[@brunotvrs]

I love disagreeing in politics with smart and nuanced people like Dr. Mike. That's not even a joke. It's so refreshing.

[@enumclaw79]

One thing I love about Dr Mike is that youtuber other influencers tend to do themselves a lot of credit and just listen and learn in his presence.

[@santiagoperalta2038]

Dr. Mike is such a smart guy, much more than physiology and nutrition knowledge. Pleasure listening to this pod

[@HindsightFPV]

2 people I follow that I never imagined together. Great and interesting gentlemen!

[@Clobek]

Incredibly informative and I absolutely love that Mike is careful about taking hard stances while still giving his view. Definitely checking him out and subscribing.

[@nonesuchone]

It took a while before I was ready, but I eventually looped back to this episode. I purposely ignored this one, telling myself that maybe my time with Adam was “over for now” because of how much “workout talk” he was engaging in around then. But here I am now, after seeking out some of Dr. Mike’s videos, and I begin my own strengthening journey. Thanks for everything Mr. Ragusea

[@StomDoth]

Fascinating discussion. I am not even remotely in Dr. Mike's world. I don't tangle with those issues or practices at all. But he has a cohesive point a view, has obviously thought about things a lot, expresses himself well and I enjoyed the interview tremendously. Inciteful.

[@MrMessiah2013]

I’m disappointed that you didn’t call in Dr. Mike’s background as a classically trained chef to make a recipe video, Adam.

[@skair5425]

He should've reacted to that RP cooking series 💀💀

[@yakked]

"I think my entire field is pretty useless." Ahhh, we love Dr. Mike.

[@sarahbuck2506]

Did anyone else get the surge of delight watching a giant buff dude repeatedly saying "gee wiz" adorably? Love it.

[@DeZiLL]

I love Dr Mike, been watching him for a couple years and had no clue he was here in Michigan until today. Explains why he mentioned faygo orange pop in his video about sugar on Friday

[@whatthetech7647]

Saying that having money doesn't make it easier to get in shape is an INSANE take. Money makes it 100x easier for a million different reasons. Free time, less stress, more resources I mean it's ridiculous. Once I got money I got in shape. I had been trying for years but once money wasn't an issue it was easy peasy

[@DogWithSwag1]

I love this podcast! And so Dr. Mike Israetel, really enjoyable and informative

[@jgoldian47]

lol mike is all smiles i love it

[@bobbyhunt3009]

Just saw this video and I have to say THIS IS THE MOST INFORMATIVE BODYBUILDING VIDEO EVER MADE. Thnkx to Dr. Mike and Adam, U gentlemen enlightened every viewer, no matter how advanced or novice the viewer, he/she learned something from watching this. A special thnkx to Adam for asking the exact right questions that every weightlifter wants to know and Dr. Mike, U outshined every influencer, coach, and guru for knowing all the answers. This video should be included in the journalism curriculum of all colleges as the teaching interview on "How to satisfy the people video". Best job ever, Thank You

[@jasonhinman6173]

I lost 25 pounds in 3 months by carrying around a bag of marinated, smoked, chargrilled, deli style sliced chicken. I would put it on salads, sandwiches, but mostly just grabbing a few slices whenever hungry. I've gone from 260 to 165 from doing this, quitting alcohol, and burning off the final 35 pounds from running and resistance training.

[@yellowklayman]

this felt like the tired teacher talking to the one kid in class who wants to show off how smart he is

[@HeroC14]

Both are smart men.

[@yellowklayman]

@@HeroC14 I agree!

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

In a good way

[@alex1432]

It's because adam thinks he's smart as a chef when in reality he's just a home cook who steals recipes online and tests out which one is best. Then he works out for 6 months and thinks he's anywhere close to as smart as mike. Mike doesn't want to entertain how dumb adam is, he just wants to be polite and answer his questions while ignoring his incorrect assumptions every 15 seconds

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

@@alex1432 That is so off, it's insane

[@EmperorShang]

THE MYTH. THE LEGEND. RP'S DR MIKE EXTRAORDINARE

[@Bored0720]

Before I just loved the Collab. But now I'm grateful cause Adam asked some questions I didn't know I had and as always, Dr. Mike had the answer.

[@StormGuard92]

Im so pleasntly surprised by this cast- it turned from a video i just put as background noise while working,so that i put my ears to use- to hopefully learn 5 % of what is said- to probably my favorite podcast i've heard so far. I do watch videos from both of you,but i gotta say - you guys are better toghether than separate :D

[@beojack4592]

Good stuff, like these sorts of interviews, and like the health exercise and diet intersection videos.

[@raoulk.8721]

Unexpected but very welcome collab!

[@iota_jian]

Adam definitely matched dr mike’s humor here! loved this collab i love both yall

[@NotSoLiberal]

This is what happens when two humble but highly intelligent people converse

[@daano465]

Great interview, you asked all the follow up questions that I basically had in my mind.

[@travis6992]

I gotta push back on needing resources to, as you say, show up. You might have all the drive in the world but work a meial service job for 12 hours a day and see how hard you're hitting the gym on the way back...or even affording the gym.

[@InnocuousRemark]

I'm so glad I stuck with this to find out that all the hunks are Libertarians

[@baileys6346]

This is the crossover I never expected but always wanted. I've been following the two of you for probably over five years now.

[@italiana626sc]

Surprisingly engaging episode. I'm not a body builder nor super heavy lifter nor male, but I found this to be an educational and enjoyable pod.

[@FarhadHaqverdi]

Such an enjoyable conversation! Big fan of both of you guys!

[@mitchellavard]

I have been nonstop binging mikes channel for the past month and especially the last few days and here comes this crossover I never thought I’d see. Incredible video Adam, looking forward to the next time you two crossover!

[@dedmor1]

NO WAY! My two favorite KZbin dads! This is incredible!

[@anonperson3972]

I have hereditary fructose intolerance and have always essentially had to eat a diet consisting of natural (because processed food has added sugar) food with a high portion of animal products and green vegetables. I have never gone over 20% body fat, and actually find it challenging to eat in order to bulk.

[@mitchelbodden7733]

I know that you likely have a very different perspective on the issue, but damn am I jealous. There are very few foods I’m not willing to gorge on till I’m nauseous, so cutting for me is insanely difficult and bulking is relatively easy.

[@anonperson3972]

@@mitchelbodden7733 I love eating too, and I can't just eat a little bit and not fill myself up 😅, so I get you. But it is easier when you can't eat sugar or any of the processed stuff, so if I want cookies or a cake I have to go through the effort of baking it, and even then it's sugar free. But when I cut I tend to just to intermittent fasting or water fasting. That way I don't need as much self restraint. I find it easier to just not eat then to eat a tiny bit and stay hungry...

[@mitchelbodden7733]

I totally understand. Having small meals throughout the day is actually more conducive to my current bulking diet than to cutting. Tiny meals just make me more hungry. If I do intermittent fasting then I just don’t get hungry nearly as often, especially if I’m busy with work or school which is often the case these days.

[@alimacun4533]

The collaboration I didn't think I needed!

[@alexbrookma]

Great episode, Adam asked a lot of questions that I had myself and hearing the answer is satisfying.

[@donnycollins1797]

I can't believe what I've learned in one week by watching Renaissance Periodization. Amazing stuff. I've dropped the weights a lot, do a three count for the lowering, stretch and hold and the bottom. It's been incredible.

[@jacobcowan4073]

I just wanna toss my two cents in and say that you can believe in self determination AND believe that systematic disadvantage exists. For instance, I believe that people can massively change themselves and their circumstances, but that doesn't mean that societal structures have no influence on their life. I don't wanna start any arguments, just felt like throwing that in the idea pool.

[@skair5425]

Yea for sure, idk why people can't accept both at the same time

[@adolfosilva3883]

Yep, both matter, to what extent for different contexts is another question.

[@GyroCannon]

Dr Mike is very knowledgeable, very insightful, and even when things got political, very nuanced I’m not a libertarian, but if I can meet more libertarians like him, I’d get far less stress headaches lol

[@WanderTheNomad]

We need more of that from all political leanings

[@victorprokop9343]

About the ROM discussion, look at - how tom platz squatted - how Levrone did presses - how Arnold did curls - how Dorian Yates did pullovers But then you can look at how Branch and Ronnie trained. Both work. But Full-ROM is pretty fail safe and allows for constant ROM in an exercise over time

[@argo7155]

Just look at him. People who achive physical greatness are so down to earth and logical. Impressive. Just keep grinding guys 💪

[@tanzilhossain2693]

This is a crazy collab

[@bennymountain1]

Would appreciate more info on high protein intake (more than 0.6 g/lb) and kidney stones. Research is out that threat of stones goes up above 0.6 g/lb, but bbs recommend 1 g/lb, which is more than that.

[@foxfire1112]

The #1 thing I got from this is that Dr Mike is extermely intellegent. I watch his channel and knew this but seeing him disgest and answer these questions in this matter really shows that his is absolutely the subject matter expert in this field.

[@jlastre]

I was recently diagnosed with lupus. I’ve had to rethink how I get my protein. People with lupus have 50x the chance of heart disease. So meat is discouraged. Mostly fish, poultry, and plant based. All junk food and even processed food is discouraged. Also low impact exercise is advised. So many lupus patients loss muscle mass and can be vitamin D deficient.

[@Agodders]

This was not the Dr Mike I expected 🤣 watched and enjoyed anyhow

[@MingWar_BalGlo]

Wonder if they're gonna bring up cricket and other insect proteins; be interesting to know how they stack up next to othets

[@libertylarry3224]

I did some google magic and found this paper: "Protein quality of four indigenous edible insect species in Nigeria" There seem to be large differences in the protein quality of insects but the average "Protein Digestibility Corrected for Amino Acid Score" is around 0.5, which is comparable to beans and lentils, whey protein has a score of 1. So if you want the same anabolic effects from eating insects you need to eat roughly twice as much protein. Crickets have a score of 0.73 which is not that bad but also not great. Maybe there are some insects out there with better scores but I think most of their protein is in the form of collagen which doesen't have a great ammino acid profile and digestibility.

[@MingWar_BalGlo]

@@libertylarry3224 thanks! I have had other insects besides crickets but that was more of a "I dare you to try this" thing and tho I liked them I wanted to know their nutrition profile. Thanks

[@rafaleon199937]

Big fan of both Adam & Mike hopefully Adam starts Training & Dieting with RP for the long term

[@TysoniusRex]

Such an awesome collaboration! Loved the messaging about supporting esports and gamers!

[@rohitraghunathan]

Interesting interview. Very informative. But the sponsor segments were slightly more jarring during an interview with Dr. Mike sitting right there silently. Also gave me some Truman show vibes when you just turned from a normal conversation with another human to plug earbuds and cofee

[@AdemVessell]

Nice! Things I still want to know: how long does protein remain available for muscle? If I work out at night then sleep 6 hours without eating then wake up and eat salmon and tuna will that protein go towards muscle growth? If I work out twice in a day. Hard work outs. Then take two days rest. Does my recovery periods protein go towards muscle growth?

[@mikafoxx2717]

You ought to just work out once a day and have less off days. Protien sensitivity is much higher right after working out. Larger protien meals will sustain it for longer, up to a point. At least 60g

[@PhaythGaming]

Don’t do two a days unless you’re really really advanced.

[@evenman27]

I love this video. Adam and Mike bounce off each other so well. I hope you guys collab again.

[@apples8527]

adam talking about his teaching advanced sound production in what sounds like a cavern is hilarious

[@benlavine6259]

so informative, so interesting... thank you

[@harjutapa]

I'm a former libertarian. A decade ago, I would've agreed with Mike here. However. The issue with Mike's position about only needing a desire to change in order to effect change is that he is in a self selecting world. There are many, many people out there who have issues, whether genetic or otherwise, which prevent them from becoming jacked. Or from even functioning at a basic level. The libertarian model ignores those people (who are definitely a minority), throws them under the bus in order to let the libertarians live in their supposed utopia. It just isn't a compassionate or realistic large scale political model.

[@bioemiliano]

Libertarian doesn't mean that you prohibit people from helping other people, and people like to help other people, that's why CAVEMEN supported their disabled members

[@quirkyturtle4896]

omg, this is the best video ever! I love Adam's and I love Mike's videos and them talking together at the end is just absolutely fantastic! I wish the video was 4 times longer!

[@TheTobynorth]

To anyone watching more recently, new study fairly recently has demonstrated that protein amount and timing is far less important than we thought. Not explicitly a need to space your protein across 3+ meals. I think Mike (and Omar maybe) has recently talked about this too

[@TheTobynorth]

With some caveats. Layne norton made an interesting vid on this with a bit of an 'it depends' conclusion