I have a 2018 M3 LR that my son is driving now. (I got a Highland). Over 149,000 miles and the range just dropped according to Teslafi from 278 miles to 262 miles. My guess is that a recalibration will fix this. I am extremely pleased with the lack of additional degradation after the first 20,000 miles. Expect to put 250,000 miles + on this car.
@Greatpics2223 ай бұрын
My '21 M3 battery failed at 66k miles. My range was only 168 miles at 80%. Tesla replaced it with a brand new 2024 LFP battery and now I can charge to 100% and get 263 miles, nearly 100 miles more. They replaced suspension and tire rotation. This was all done free.
@overdrive_reviews3 ай бұрын
Damn. What happened to cause it to go bad so early?? Any idea??
@michaelb35224 ай бұрын
Fun fact, more people drive the speed limit than you think. It’s just that you don’t ever see them if you’re also driving the speed limit.
@DouglasJMark4 ай бұрын
Great video. It's always reassuring knowing how well Teslas do. I found a Car and Driver review of a 2018 Model 3. They stated the EPA range was 310. They estimated the average real range (mixed with highway speed of 75 mph) was 200 miles. You got 253 miles. Wow! BTW, your car looks beautiful...and the OTA updates keeps it current. Thank-you!
@Sp_75-764 ай бұрын
My March 2022 model 3 rear wheel drive with 14500 miles on the clock is currently showing a lifetime average of 214 wh per mile. This is normal day to day usage with a number of longer trips. On my latest 650 mile round trip the car averaged 196 wh/mile! No hypermiling or the like, just normal duel carriageway/motorway driving. I do always drive in chill mode as that is more than fast enough for me
@peteroffpist16214 ай бұрын
after ten years our Teslas still have 90% range left. So happy.
@bearlemley3 ай бұрын
My wife used to use the “miles to go” as a fuel gauge when we had a Ford Diesel SUV. Now she has to go charge when she has 40% left on the Tesla. In this test, driving around the block off the highway doesn’t use the same wh/m driving at slower speeds with less drag. The Ford had a lot more range before we had to drive to a gas station and put in $70. We sold the Ford privately for 61% of the purchase price after exactly 4 years of ownership.
@sunrisejak27094 ай бұрын
While it's interesting to see how many miles you could drive from a full battery to zero you missed a more important opportunity. That is to see how many kwh your battery could receive from a zero state of charge with charging back to 100%. Knowing the battery capacity as a data point is more valuable. Basically a real life battery health check as its performed in the service mode. This is the best way to determine battery degradation. Mileage during trips have too many variables.
@ryanwelsch93844 ай бұрын
In the summer time I get about 220 Wh / mile with my model Y at 65 mph. However I do not use climate control. When I drive around 50 mph it only consumes 190 wh / mile. My average for 95,000 miles is about 245 wh/mile.
@wesbishop37904 ай бұрын
"Some crazy side town in Virginia"? Hey! I resemble that remark! 🤪 Peace out bro! 😆 Great test! I think these kind of exercises do wonders to alleviate range anxiety! Good job!!
@miquelTesla4 ай бұрын
I heard you get up to 3 kw past the 0% but at that point, all my AC and radio would be off. My 2021 SR+ used had 82% degradation at purchase. I really don't know what they did to this car but they must have revved it nonstop to get the battery all the way to 82% while using supercharger non stop to 100% everyday. I don't see the curve followed by Tesla. Getting service set today is all the way to September 3rd! Its absolutely ridiculous. Recent trip was all range anxiety at every stop. Going up elevation at -4.1 average with temperatures of 110F on a trip of 170 miles, I had to charge roughly 109% (100% at home, charge once 59-85, arrive with 17%). Which means heat and elevation took the range down roughly 130-150 miles on a full charge. EPA estimated by Tesla show 225 miles at 100% (original listed SR+ is 263, with 55.5 Kwh battery). Return down elevation on the other hand did the same trip with 74%. But for a 82% degradation, there was enough Tesla charger to feed the hungry beast. Forgot to mention I was only at 70 miles per hours going up, return trip was a little faster because I had to follow traffic natural laws of man. I'm looking at it this way, I got 12 % left to go before Tesla warranty kicks in. I had this car for one month now and I lost 2% even when charging the right way. 75%-45% on a NCA battery for daily drive (not the LFP).
@AmosDohms4 ай бұрын
That 250ish miles might actually be more accurate to the car's current estimated range then it would've been when the car was new, I don't think new M3's got within 10-15% of their EPA range back then.
@AmosDohms4 ай бұрын
@@EpicDrew15 I didn't do a good job of explaining myself, basically meant that the battery has held up very well.
@chenyansong4 ай бұрын
88~90 degrees is what we call mild temperatures here 😂
@shanestephan71514 ай бұрын
awesome experiment
@jaddyrose93183 ай бұрын
It is good to know this car is holding up above 80% of its original battery performance after 90 thousand miles #gasmoneysaver
@DerekDavis2134 ай бұрын
Spoiler alert: the car is awesome, he loves everything about it, and the range hasn't changed much. Talking about range, my brother just bought a Camry Hybrid. 630 miles of range, and then 5 minutes to fill the tank. Awesome !
@dangrass4 ай бұрын
er, is there any reason to have 630 mile range? I mean, nobody wants to drive more than 3 hours at a stretch, so a range of 225 miles is more than enough. Your brother's Camry is going to cost a whole lot more to drive over the next 100k miles than this Tesla. Bad decision.
@JT-cf4kk4 ай бұрын
@@dangrassafter 100000km hybrid battery replacement, no battery repair possible. All hybrid cars will have bigger problems with hybrid batterys then full electric cars.
@DerekDavis2134 ай бұрын
@@dangrass 630 mile range means that when you stop on a road trip, you don't have to *hassle* with gasoline or charging. Just have food and drink, bathroom, and stretch your legs. 630 mile range makes road trips more pleasant.
@RayNLA4 ай бұрын
Yeah…but it a Camry!
@DerekDavis2134 ай бұрын
@@RayNLA Camry has better build quality than Tesla, a better interior, full dashboard, and a Turn Signal Stalk. And MUCH longer range. Camry is the superior vehicle, hands down.
@cgamiga4 ай бұрын
Only 62kwh? For a LR? hmm... should be 70+? at 244Wh/mi, under 250, that is EPA rated efficiency so should get the battery meter/epa range. My 2018 LR-RWD has 50k miles, and my battery range meter still says around 280-290 at 100%. (delivered max was 310.)
@ryanwelsch93844 ай бұрын
If you do the math, 74% of X = 49Kwh. That would mean that the full capacity (X) = 66 Kwh.
@Blackwidow-xy9ve4 ай бұрын
I have a 2021 model Y performance with 30,000 miles on it and I get 290 miles out of full charge! My daughter has a 2019 model 3 long range with acceleration boost and it has 150,000 miles on it and she gets 275 miles out of a full charge! Not bad at all Tesla!
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
Wow! How’s the Mode 3 doing at 150K miles, doing ok for her??
@Blackwidow-xy9ve4 ай бұрын
its running great! No problems at all, her’s look just like yours, but with white interior.
@FromPetroltoTesla4 ай бұрын
These tests are so difficult to make because of so many factors involved in each drive.
@matthewhuszarik41734 ай бұрын
Li-Ion battery don’t just degrade with usage they degrade with time as well. Depending on how they are stored they lose 1%-4% per year without even being used.
@ryen75124 ай бұрын
not true. if they are stored at 100% charge, maybe. Plenty of 10 year teslas at 90% battery left.
@matthewhuszarik41734 ай бұрын
@@ryen7512 There aren’t plenty of ten year old Tesla’s period and even fewer with their original batteries. The battery failure rate for the original batteries is now about 8%. Definitely not a record I would invest in. Even with the disaster that is the new Tundra its engine failure rate is less than 1%.
@tonyn32274 ай бұрын
It's expensive to charge at superchargers, to go only about 250 miles , $20 ain't cheap, as average car can go about 400 miles, which means it would cost you almost $40 , that's almost as much as gas, which is a shame, in my opinion, they all jacked up prices , it wasn't like that from the beginning.
@vuaeco4 ай бұрын
That's Elon's plan from the beginning.
@jollyrodger15374 ай бұрын
superchargers should be used on long trips. most owners shouldn't need any
@chuckn2750Ай бұрын
Most people on use Superchargers when on trips. I use them when vacationing or maybe going to an out of town ball game. my regular work commute was costing about $200/month in my fusion Hybrid. My model 3 costs me about $50/mo
@JifferRiffic4 ай бұрын
I've noticed that my 2019 M3 SR+ RWD seems to burn tons of battery in idle. example: I pulled into my friend's house at 80% on Thursday night, The Car was parked till Sunday morning, and I was at 60%.I am not sure why, summon & sentury mode is off.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
Damn - do you have cabin overheat turned off? If the interior gets too hot, there’s a setting that will kick on the AC and it can drain battery. If you don’t turn it off, it usually is on by default.
@JifferRiffic4 ай бұрын
@@EpicDrew15 no cabin heat protection on. I turned off all that junk
@klikar19824 ай бұрын
Maybe car does not go into sleep mode, because of weak 12V battery.
@Lucky83...4 ай бұрын
@@JifferRifficthat happened to my new m3 too . I take to the tesla service and some problems with my AC system make the car lose battery so fast , just take to tesla let them know they will fix it
@B_r_u_c_e3 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@darcyk634 ай бұрын
Unrelated have you cleaned the ac radiator yet? At 90k miles it's likely almost clogged with dirt and will destroy your ac system
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
I haven’t! I plan to soon tho bc it’s been so hot likely and I’ve been using the AC a lot.
@tonyn32274 ай бұрын
Elon actually said model 3 batteries are designed to last about 300 to 400 k. Miles not just 200k, for your info.
@KingDavidPraiseYHWH4 ай бұрын
He actually said 300k for standard range and 500k for long range
@FalkinerTimАй бұрын
Interesting your KERS gets less at 100%. I have an MG ZS EV Mk1 and that does not happen. I also have an Ora Good Cat with the LFP battery and when charged to 100% that loses its KERS with the loss fading for about 14 km.
@lanmansvideos4 ай бұрын
Electric cars are great as daily drivers for people who have access to a level 2 charger. However, for people who live in dorms/condos/apartments that don't have a level 2 charger available (most of them) then I wouldn't recommend an EV. You will have to charge more often that if you went to a gas station, sit at the charger way longer than if you went to a gas station, and the price difference between a level 3 charger and gas is negligible, and it some cases actually cost more per mile than gas. The reason I know this is because when my son went away to college we were looking at getting him another car. We looked at EVs but we realized that because he didn't have access to a home charger it took away the biggest advantage of an EV. Which is cheap electricity while charging overnight. He would have had to drive 15 minutes to the nearest Level 3 charger at least once a week and charge for at least 30 minutes (he fills up with gas about every two weeks) and the price per Kwh was about the same per mile as filling up with gas. For me personally, I do enough road trips that being in an EV wouldn't be enjoyable. I wouldn't want to have to plan my stops around charging the car. And I would be really upset to arrive at a charger and it be offline, degraded, or full. At least in an ICE car you plan your stops around when/where you want to eat or need to go to the bathroom. Since there is pretty much a gas station everywhere then getting gas is an afterthought. And in the odd situation where a gas station is down or out of fuel, there is usually another one across the street. If I were rich I would probably get an EV for local daily driving and then have a nice 4WD ICE vehicle (probably a truck) for when the weather is bad/cold, I need to hall stuff, and to go on road trips. But I'm not rich so I have a two row SUV that gets 32 MPG on the highway.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
Great summary. Largely agree with you!
@ridwanolisa47364 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you. I got a 2017 Model X a few weeks ago and I do a good amount of driving throughout the week and have to stop at a level 3 charger at least 3 times a week. Level 3 charging here in the DFW isn’t that much cheaper than gas and having to wait 25-30 minutes every time is annoying. Level 1 charging at home is so slow and only gets me 35-40 miles. I’m getting a level 2 charger installed tomorrow and I can’t wait because it’s going to make a world of a difference. If you don’t have a place to do level 2 charging consistently then I wouldn’t recommend it
@chenyansong4 ай бұрын
I only have level 1 charge at home for overnight churching, it works well, I do not need level 2 at home. My daughter took my Nissan leaf to college, her apartment has layer 2 charge - probably due to proximity to downtown of a big city - so it works well for her.
@chenyansong4 ай бұрын
@@ridwanolisa4736I drives less than a level 1 charge can give me on an average day so I just plug it in to an outlet in my garage when I get home every day.😊
@lanmansvideos4 ай бұрын
@@chenyansong You must not drive more than 20-30 miles a day and/or go several days without driving. Level 1 wouldn't work for me unless I had a Plug in Hybrid as I usually drive 30-50 miles most days and several hundred on the weekends. I can see level 1 working for someone who works at home or has an extremely short commute. Just charge all week and drive on the weekends.
@dougdu4 ай бұрын
88 90 degrees, 'super hot' lol Here in central California we are hitting 110 115 for about a week now. If we can get 88 90 degrees here that would be nice.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
This is Pennsylvania!!
@dougdu4 ай бұрын
@@overdrive_reviews Well, hope you're not that guy lol.
@xjdisuehd4 ай бұрын
Seriously considering the 363 mile Tesla M3 RWD. Should easily give over 300 miles of highway range, good enough for four continuous hours of 70mph driving.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
It is SOOO enticing isn’t it?!? Good luck if you decide to do so!
@jollyrodger15374 ай бұрын
I just order that. no options. my last SR plus was just totaled with 125k miles almost 4yrs old. looking fwd to the extra miles. since I do 200 miles round trip to work 5 days a week.
@Jonse704 ай бұрын
Sitting in a car midsummer with a cap on.. no wonder you're cooking. Around 80% of the temperature that leaves the human body does so from your head 😅
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
😂😂
@vevenaneathna4 ай бұрын
lol not true but it feels true
@BamBam-uf4yi4 ай бұрын
A cap will actually keep you cooler.
@flolou84964 ай бұрын
??? How many of your 90,000 miles you've had put on your Tesla were done using any Level 2 (slower charging at home) VS the DC oudoor Fast Charging Tesla chargers ? If you say you've only used DC outdoor faster Tesla chargers since you've owned the car as the original owner, this is a very important fact, as people decide if getting a used Tesla is as good a value VS say getting something much newer like a 2022 Chevy BOLT EUV, that you can find under 25,000 now all day long.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
I have only owned it since 72K miles, and I'd say 90% of my charging is Level 2; I only use DC charging when I am on the road or on vacation for an extended period of time.
@karllued4 ай бұрын
I have 2 5 gallon gas cans. My hybrid goes 600 miles on 14.5 gallons. How much easier can it get to quickly add range to my hybrid or scooter that holds 2.5 gallons, and gets over 100 mpg?
@thefinancialneurologist4 ай бұрын
I drive my Hondas to about 300,000 miles without issue. 100,000 mile fear is kind of outdated.
@senaxyva4 ай бұрын
100k mile fear is only applicable to bad maintenance drivers
@slikster4life4 ай бұрын
How many actual miles did u do...not Tesla miles
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
Lmao. Goodnight.
@justdigit4 ай бұрын
He did 253 miles with the Tesla. Now tell me if these are not actual miles, how do you convert them to actual miles?
@voldar704 ай бұрын
You don't love this (going to 2%) but you are doing it. This is the definition of insanity. Never understood why people want to show off while doing KZbin videos and be different than they are. Oh well... Good video nonetheless. 252 miles at an average speed of 62 mph it's great. And yeah, next time use the Energy tab to see the range left based on the last 5-15-30 miles driving, instead of using the EPA number. And keeping the AC in auto is the best way to drive a Tesla.
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
lol it was for a video!
@Sw33tBabyRays4 ай бұрын
It was literally so ppl could see for the video retard. 🤣
@ProximoNovio4 ай бұрын
You started off horrible. Split power only effects from 0% to 40%. After that its irrelevant.
@stevewoodyt4 ай бұрын
Split power? I’m new here. I’m a hertz pleb.
@TeslaBlueLightning4 ай бұрын
When at a supercharger with a maximum power of 150 kW, if you park right next to another Tesla you receive only half of the maximum possible that’s why it’s always best to leave at least one space between you and the next vehicle, 250 kW superchargers use a different infrastructure and don’t split the max power.
@dchubworldsharenetwork4 ай бұрын
This is called a real life comparison, and AC on. I'm buying an EV, and then I'll watch that one space in between is empty + AC OFF in summer 🤣🤣
@doloresvancartier42494 ай бұрын
I get a full charge under 3 minutes at my favorite gas station. Range hasnt dropped over the years.
@wimravestein4 ай бұрын
But your wallet has considering gasprices and labour Every 15k
@doloresvancartier42494 ай бұрын
@@wimravestein my wallet? How much more did you pay for an EV huh? EV are more expensive. You people are so dumb. You are willing to pay more for an EV in order to save on gas and whatnot. So dumb. Lets pay more to save! Read that again.
@wimravestein4 ай бұрын
@@doloresvancartier4249 22K for a 2019 M3 LR DM, 80K on miles, free charging @home because of solar panels. So nah, for a daily drive: im down with EVs.
@Jodrco4 ай бұрын
You dont get it, EV's are awesome for the majority of people that doesn't use it everyday for long trips. You get a full charge everyday at home, no need to go to a gas station and paying way way, WAY less money. You just have to wait when you're on a roadtrip, and while the car is charging you're stretching your legs, grabbing a drink or eating something, essentially what everybody is been doing, nobody likes to drive for hours and hours withouth stopping. And it takes 10-20-300 minutes to recharge, depends on the distance, but not hours. Yes, you cannot drive for miles and miles withouth resting but common, at that point just get a plane ticket. Also, you are not counting the amount of times you go to a gas stations in a year, you would be surprised by how much time you "wasted". Also no anual maintenance, no oil changes, no brake pads no brake fluids (yes, you read correctly, thanks to regenerative braking), no distribution belt, etc. Maybe you're paying more for the car, but overall cost? You should calculated it again. EV's are NOT for everyone, but they aren't half as bad as you think they are. PD: Also, not that you care, but no noises, no fumes, great for enviroment (yeah, making batteries contaminate, but the better the development the more ecologic). I don't think I've ever heard someone said: Oh love to get down on my knees and breath all the fumes that comes out of a car, so healthy! Also don't forget the great impact and the amount of energy needed to extract oil and turn it into petrol.
@doloresvancartier42494 ай бұрын
@@Jodrco HAHAHA. Omg that is so funny. I cant believe you said all that in one breath without at least one lol.
@bobmcmanus72594 ай бұрын
I've had two batteries replaced in two years
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
That’s incredibly hard to believe. Two IN THE FLOOR, high-voltage battery packs? The ones that power the car’s motors? Highly unlikely.
@bobmcmanus72594 ай бұрын
@@overdrive_reviews would you like reeipts? It was atually two new batteries in a few months. The first was after owning nearly two years.
@alfymo4 ай бұрын
@@overdrive_reviewsIt might not be the norm but I wouldn’t assume this person is lying. Even the most reliable companies like Toyota and Ford have rare major issues.
@jjamespacbell4 ай бұрын
What car model and year? What mileage? Were the replacement covered under warranty?
@overdrive_reviews4 ай бұрын
@@jjamespacbell 2018 Model 3 Long Range with 92K miles.
@tonyn32274 ай бұрын
It's expensive to charge at superchargers, to go only about 250 miles , $20 ain't cheap, as average car can go about 400 miles, which means it would cost you almost $40 , that's almost as much as gas, which is a shame, in my opinion, they all jacked up prices , it wasn't like that from the beginning.
@terrancecloverfield67914 ай бұрын
Yup. That's when the math stopped making sense to me. Sure I can charge at home to save the money, where I can, but whatever savings I get, get lost in the higher insurance premiums. Maybe there savings in the infrequent maintenance costs. But I don't have all the math down on that yet...
@jianbinchen28814 ай бұрын
@@terrancecloverfield6791 u need more tires.
@bryanwhitton17844 ай бұрын
@@terrancecloverfield6791 We drove from California to east Texas to watch the eclipse and used my wife's Model Y. When we were finished we totaled the cost and it was actually higher than if she had purchased the RAV4 Prime that she wanted. I would have to agree with your assessment of long range charging costs. However, we have a large PV array on our home and we charge during the day for free. So $0.00 vs $40/week for 50 weeks a year vs $30 more for the remaining two weeks is a fair exchange. I also agree with your assessment that the costs of supercharging has gone up a lot in the 6 years that I purchased my Model 3. We have State Farm insurance and it is no more expensive than our previous cars. Having said that, all of our rates have gone up this year. All my friends have seen the same whether gas or electric. Ok
@jollyrodger15374 ай бұрын
@@bryanwhitton1784 Free charging is amazing. new apartments put in 20 chargers for residents. it charges at 32 mph
@BradWarrenMusic3 ай бұрын
My Land Rover costs me about $75 to travel about 320 miles per tank. My 5 series BMW costs about $65 to travel 360-ish miles per tank. When comparing to other luxury vehicles, Tesla “fill-ups” definitely cost less per mile.