How much time does Tadej Pogačar spend training in Zone 2?

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Peter Attia MD

Peter Attia MD

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@pnlombard
@pnlombard 2 ай бұрын
5 hours, 320w, 145bpm. And that's his low intensity Zone Two workout. Superhuman.
@madyogi6164
@madyogi6164 2 ай бұрын
Yea. I would be dead after 2 minutes. After one.
@Vive_in_Nisu
@Vive_in_Nisu 2 ай бұрын
If he weights 66kg the low end of 320W would 4,85 w/kg and that for 5 hours!! That‘s remarkable!!!
@ln5747
@ln5747 2 ай бұрын
💉
@manelfaurasegura9799
@manelfaurasegura9799 2 ай бұрын
​@@ln5747 just like all his opponents
@ln5747
@ln5747 2 ай бұрын
@@manelfaurasegura9799 indeed. All top pros appear superhuman to hobbyists at this point for this reason.
@warrenkingston7606
@warrenkingston7606 2 ай бұрын
Zone 2 is £8.40 per day on the London Underground
@MrBoggins1234
@MrBoggins1234 2 ай бұрын
Genius 👌
@timscott-miller3715
@timscott-miller3715 2 ай бұрын
I’ve just had some of my latte come out my nose. Good for you
@Mykelridesbykes
@Mykelridesbykes 2 ай бұрын
@@warrenkingston7606 money well spent
@pyabs2234
@pyabs2234 2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@MarceloPaciorek
@MarceloPaciorek 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@bendardania
@bendardania 2 ай бұрын
That priceless smirk… Tadej knows Peter loves the watts game that’s why he did it.
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660
@abdul-kabiralegbe5660 2 ай бұрын
He felt good about himself 😆. I can't blame him.
@BMWWolf
@BMWWolf 2 ай бұрын
This dude is an animal. That like my zone 8
@BMi-g8v
@BMi-g8v 2 ай бұрын
He is strong, but so he should be. It's his job and spends all his time doing just that.
@ArnoDemeulenaere
@ArnoDemeulenaere 2 ай бұрын
There are hundreds of pros that put in that amount of work. He is something special
@nocapproductions5471
@nocapproductions5471 2 ай бұрын
To get this into perspective, he is making one third of the power of a 50cc motorcycle and can sustain it for 5 hours, while the motorcycle usually needs to refuel at hour 3 or at maximum hour 4. He is like a human machine.
@deejaypat1
@deejaypat1 Ай бұрын
@@BMWWolf Zone 5 during 4 mn. Maybe … Five hours !! A robot !!
@KazeHorse
@KazeHorse Ай бұрын
@@nocapproductions5471excellent analogy.
@basengelblik5199
@basengelblik5199 2 ай бұрын
Me Zone 2 HR 130 BPM with 140 watts. 320-340 ... wtf.
@PavelSavyhin
@PavelSavyhin 2 ай бұрын
Same with me, don't worry
@suTornado
@suTornado 2 ай бұрын
yeah, that zone 2 number is FTP that most of us can only dream of 😂
@FlatToRentUK
@FlatToRentUK 2 ай бұрын
Not only does that watts figure make us mere mortals look rubbish Pogacar is probably lighter than the vast majority of us so watts per kilo will look even worse!
@scottharrison5734
@scottharrison5734 2 ай бұрын
Horses for courses yrs of good training good genetics guy elite on bike
@basengelblik5199
@basengelblik5199 2 ай бұрын
@@thru_and_thru He doesn't weigh in lbs, but in kg - european dude. It's 66kg which is 145.5 lbs.
@FergusNelson
@FergusNelson 2 ай бұрын
The other incredible thing non mentioned was that he can do the 320 - 340 watts in zone 2 for five hours AND he only weights like 66kg! So 5 W/Kg in zone 2!
@kiersor
@kiersor 2 ай бұрын
Could you explain a little all those numbers please? I know nothing about all this, I don't understand how or why that is impressive.
@dakalla
@dakalla 2 ай бұрын
​@@kiersor In cycling you often calculate the power someone can put out divided by the body weight. That gives you a w/kg unit. This makes it easier to compare to other riders, especially when it comes to how fast someone can ride uphill. Zone 2 means an easy effort someone can sustain for many hours. For his personal zone2 he can put out a power many can't do for 5minutes. If you could do it for only 20 minutes, you would probably winning some local races here and there. He can sustain that for many hours and then obviously his 20minutes power is even way higher.
@LordAus123
@LordAus123 2 ай бұрын
@@kiersorlook at it this way, your average non cyclist might be able to sustain 320w for a matter of minutes before they have to stop, physically cannot sustain it. This guy does 320w for five hours straight, non-stop, and for him it is a low intensity workout, like going for a medium paced walk.
@kiersor
@kiersor 2 ай бұрын
@@dakalla Woah, that's impressive, thank you so much for your time.
@kiersor
@kiersor 2 ай бұрын
@@LordAus123 Thanks pal. Do you know if that is related to mitochondrial count?
@peterfranzjr.1190
@peterfranzjr.1190 2 ай бұрын
Tadej is phenomenal AND a great character in the press! I'm 185lbs and can hold 300 watts for 5 minutes as well... Wait, 5 HOURS??!!!
@alaefarmestatesllc
@alaefarmestatesllc 2 ай бұрын
Now add on another 20-40 watts lol
@XlogicXX
@XlogicXX 2 ай бұрын
He smiled when he said 320-340w in Zone 2. "I know, I'm a beast"!
@Rambleon444
@Rambleon444 2 ай бұрын
Imagine cruising with your friends and conversing casually while at 340 Watts.
@IO8-biohacking
@IO8-biohacking 2 ай бұрын
And during 5 hours 😮😂😅
@ryoukokonpaku1575
@ryoukokonpaku1575 2 ай бұрын
I'd be really funny to just casually join someone's vo2max effort and chill casually during intervals while the other is gasping for air lol.
@sebastiansowieso8179
@sebastiansowieso8179 2 ай бұрын
That's why zone 2 for the pro's is not 'easy'. Imagine hiw many calories you burn at thaz power (1000 per hr). Its a focused workout, not a sunday stroll.
@escamunicha4276
@escamunicha4276 Ай бұрын
Look at the pro peloton, they are engaging in conversation like in a fun ride while riding 45kph.
@psicologiadoavesso
@psicologiadoavesso Ай бұрын
@@ryoukokonpaku1575I've seen a video like that by with a runner. The guy went to a park to talk about technique, form, intervals and whilst regular runners did their maximum interval sessions, he was jogging aling chatting to the camera about form, strides and things like that.
@craigsmith9876
@craigsmith9876 2 ай бұрын
Lol 320 - 340 watts and a slight smile. Normal cyclists would be blowing smoke out of their backside at that power level
@vadymvv
@vadymvv 2 ай бұрын
For my 55kg it is unreachable high
@ryoukokonpaku1575
@ryoukokonpaku1575 2 ай бұрын
​@@vadymvvsame lmao. 260 is my ftp at 55kg, and I'd like to say I'm pretty decent fitness wise in terms of racing in amateur. His power numbers is just insane lol, pros are definitely a whole other level.
@Vivungisport
@Vivungisport 2 ай бұрын
​@@ryoukokonpaku1575For sure, i mean 5 hours a day. Not many can endure the process to reach that level , even if they would be payed to do it.
@augustgade7084
@augustgade7084 2 ай бұрын
I bet he’s not telling the true number either
@zaskadu8320
@zaskadu8320 2 ай бұрын
I am 66kg same as Pogacar... and my zone2 is around 180-190w.. this man is truly and alien.. i have a bigger upper body.. he has big legs and small upper body which is the perfect alien.. and genetics.. the perfect alien!!!!
@julianvandersteen2303
@julianvandersteen2303 2 ай бұрын
INSANITY. I’d be lucky to hold 340 for 5 minutes
@percyveer2355
@percyveer2355 2 ай бұрын
That's my 5 min max, and I'm much heavier than him
@westerling8436
@westerling8436 2 ай бұрын
I can hold 330 for approx. 20 min
@TLK22
@TLK22 2 ай бұрын
Strava say my best is 303W for 5min but I only started cycling regularly a few months ago.
@julianvandersteen2303
@julianvandersteen2303 2 ай бұрын
@@westerling8436 that’s extremely good. You are fit!!
@julianvandersteen2303
@julianvandersteen2303 2 ай бұрын
@@percyveer2355 yep, that used to be basically my max too. And by the end of it I was dying 😂
@brolaf37
@brolaf37 2 ай бұрын
He also mentioned after this that z2 range is dynamic and towards the end of a 5 hr ride it would likely drop to 290w. It seems to me like he uses HR to train more than watts
@jonathancano6387
@jonathancano6387 2 ай бұрын
yeah, Attia states an exaggeration and the clip cuts out right before Poggi corrects him.
@BlahBlahPoop617
@BlahBlahPoop617 2 ай бұрын
That’s still pretty remarkable
@capetowncyclist
@capetowncyclist 2 ай бұрын
He certainly dóés seem to imply it
@ryoukokonpaku1575
@ryoukokonpaku1575 2 ай бұрын
Definitely use HR to balance your power. It's often good practice to do so when doing long steady state rides. Use power early since HR lags in time, then use a combination to check fatigue levels or hydration. For me if my z2 power dips to z1 and my HR is still z2 in a long ride that usually means my fueling/hydration is insufficient as while fatigue your power may dip it usually should still be in the z2 range.
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 2 ай бұрын
Everybody is using HR
@gedvalaitis4877
@gedvalaitis4877 2 ай бұрын
I follow a pro Chaz Turmon, just below Tour level. He is about the same weight as Tadej. His max 20 minute power is 340. Tadej zone 2 for 5 hours is over 300 watts, wow! Thanks for great questions Dr Atia.
@shaylorcyclingwahoo
@shaylorcyclingwahoo 2 ай бұрын
340 for 20 minutes at their weight is not good for a pro, that can’t be right. I rode 325 for 20 minutes at 62kg age 44, working full time, and limited talent
@YannickLB
@YannickLB 2 ай бұрын
340 for 20 min is not just below tour level. That's more like club rider level. I can do more at 72kg as a 37 yo recreational rider with a fulltime job.
@ronm7114
@ronm7114 Ай бұрын
@@YannickLB Pretty high club level riding though. But yeah i was thinking, wait what, was i almost at pro level?? lol.
@mario.221
@mario.221 2 ай бұрын
Dude rides zone 2 when I'm at FTP. That's so nuts. His Aerobic Motor is just insaine
@fignons_missing_8sec4
@fignons_missing_8sec4 2 ай бұрын
God, I wish that was my FTP. That's all-time peak 20min for me. Nowadays more like peak 10-12min.
@Taylor-Ma
@Taylor-Ma 2 ай бұрын
5.0wkg for 5 hrs!!!!!
@Taylor-Ma
@Taylor-Ma 2 ай бұрын
If you are 65kg, 320w for 20mins is really impressive!! I can hold 320 for at least 30mins buti weight in 80kg. I can just hold 5.0 for 5mins!! If you your ftp is 5.0wkg, that will be Cat1 racer!
@DanCave
@DanCave 2 ай бұрын
@@Taylor-Ma The pro's are on 30 hrs + a week, week in week out, month after month in season and in maintenance mode out of season for a while. Pogi's aerobic engine is exceptional and gifted though genetics and good structured training.
@disvert9355
@disvert9355 Ай бұрын
He's an elite Pro rider, it's what makes him elite. If you had the dedication and time to train like he does you'd be a helluva lot better too.
@Mykelridesbykes
@Mykelridesbykes 2 ай бұрын
To put that in perspective I’m 6’5 and my race weight is 100kg. My z2 is 270. Most taller riders have higher watts like Matt Beers. But Pog is not only doing 70 more watts than me he’s doing it for 5 hours. He is the 1% of 1%. At 40 I’ll never reach his level. But as the saying goes “Aim for the stars and hit the moon”
@dustinmaherfitness
@dustinmaherfitness 2 ай бұрын
I am 6’5 and 195 lbs at age 40. I am working to get my zone 2 to 270 like yours. What is your ftp at that fitness level then?
@Mykelridesbykes
@Mykelridesbykes 2 ай бұрын
@@dustinmaherfitness 375 last I checked. Haven’t done an FTP test in ages because of the weather. Gonna do one at the end of October to get a good idea how much I’ve grown
@ThedirtycatCycling
@ThedirtycatCycling 2 ай бұрын
Ive noticed this. I saw a guy on twitch that streams and his zone 2 is around 350 watts or just under and he is about 6 foot 5 and think he weighs 85kg so he is still really fast. I'm assuming tall people tending to have high FTP is due to bigger heart and lungs hence why women tend to have lower FTP and obviously women naturally have lower haemoglobin levels though
@felixs6318
@felixs6318 Ай бұрын
you sure you wont win the tour de france with 40? just keep the hard training.
@Mykelridesbykes
@Mykelridesbykes Ай бұрын
@ not at 122 kg. Maybe if I was 90kg lol.
@tomdebevoise
@tomdebevoise 2 ай бұрын
I'll just get another bag of potato chips
@GaiusPrimusMatius
@GaiusPrimusMatius 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂👍🇸🇮
@capetowncyclist
@capetowncyclist 2 ай бұрын
😂
@morapelimokokomali7907
@morapelimokokomali7907 2 ай бұрын
Precisely, there's no point in trying anything else 😂
@ru40342
@ru40342 2 ай бұрын
his zone 2 is my zone 6......
@viatori5566
@viatori5566 2 ай бұрын
320 to 340 😂 my god
@capetowncyclist
@capetowncyclist 2 ай бұрын
😮
@pnlombard
@pnlombard 2 ай бұрын
And for 5 hours! HR 140 😮
@scotthalversen2064
@scotthalversen2064 2 ай бұрын
Incredible! That’s why he’s #1
@60westpro
@60westpro 2 ай бұрын
What a great guest , Peter !!! TP !!
@francisrizon2149
@francisrizon2149 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the GOAT 🐐 of cycling Tadej ❤
@katiecalvert9143
@katiecalvert9143 2 ай бұрын
I love his smile at 0:42 when he realises how mental that is to people outside his bubble
@camiloesco08
@camiloesco08 2 ай бұрын
Hello. How did he measured his zone 2. Spirometry, lactate? Thanks
@АнтонАлексеенко_044
@АнтонАлексеенко_044 2 ай бұрын
Put a magnet on him, he might be a terminator from the future
@jean-pierremestanza8186
@jean-pierremestanza8186 2 ай бұрын
Thats is absolutely INSANE. Wow. I can barely think about how much work that is. Its increidble
@TSonemusic
@TSonemusic 2 ай бұрын
320 was my FTP when I really worked hard 😅 This guy is insane!
@mikedruce1701
@mikedruce1701 2 ай бұрын
Woah! Glad a caught this clip. I picked up some of the tour last year and this year. Going to give this a listen!
@RobertSimpson-wp3pr
@RobertSimpson-wp3pr 2 ай бұрын
There's no way not to like this guy, what a great personality. Good for him, and all of us, we will see even greater things from Tadej. He really is Amazing. He just might be the very best EVER. GOAT.
@ortodontiaespecializada9283
@ortodontiaespecializada9283 2 ай бұрын
This guy is out of this world!
@hayder978
@hayder978 2 ай бұрын
How could be HR 150 to 155 regarded as Zone 2? My zone 5 starts at >159 and I am 46 yrs.
@geoffnash2609
@geoffnash2609 2 ай бұрын
Hr varies a lot for individuals. I am a coach and have athletes in Z2 at 160bpm and others at 130bpm. It's individual differences and not really a reflection of fitness. You are you, so don't worry about the absolute Hr number compared to others.
@hayder978
@hayder978 2 ай бұрын
@@geoffnash2609 Thanks. That's helpful.
@TheMirrorVision
@TheMirrorVision 2 ай бұрын
Keep in mind this is a young world-class athlete whose max HR is over 200 per this podcast so us mere mortals should not compare ranges with Tadej.
@FlatToRentUK
@FlatToRentUK 2 ай бұрын
Zone 2 isn't actually a measure of heart rate, it's our aerobic threshold where we have lactate below about 2mmol. But because it's inconvenient to take lactate readings we try to equate it to a heart rate or rate of perceived exertion. But the fitter you are the higher it goes.
@perman07
@perman07 2 ай бұрын
You should view heart rate zones as an attempt to proxy what is going on energetically in the body. Blood lactate levels more accurately tell you that. RPE/breath intensity can be as telling as heart rate. So don't view the heart rate as the goal, view it as a method.
@shilohawks1
@shilohawks1 2 ай бұрын
Wild. Z2 for me tops out at about 145, with watts hitting around 240. 347 is my all time 20 minute max. 🤯
@mario.221
@mario.221 2 ай бұрын
That's are very nice stats though! Except you are super heavy
@Mr_Zzzeee
@Mr_Zzzeee 2 ай бұрын
@@mario.221 that's mean. he's just big boned
@Caffeinatedtechnerd
@Caffeinatedtechnerd 2 ай бұрын
The numbers are irrelevant without weight numbers. Pogi is doing close to 5w/kg in zone 2. Insane
@vadymvv
@vadymvv 2 ай бұрын
Y're strong also
@akaemzett
@akaemzett 2 ай бұрын
Who would have thought that the world's best cyclist has incredible numbers?
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 2 ай бұрын
He is still hitting far beyond that of even any other pro rider
@swisstopia
@swisstopia 2 ай бұрын
Pogi’s a beast. His aorta is the size of a garden hose.
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 2 ай бұрын
Pogi's numbers are truly staggering. Most good riders can't put out 300 watts in zone 4
@gnemilostiviy2370
@gnemilostiviy2370 2 ай бұрын
Good rider should be able to put out more than 300w. Weight dependent obviously
@farmer__
@farmer__ 2 ай бұрын
That's not true
@gnemilostiviy2370
@gnemilostiviy2370 2 ай бұрын
@@farmer__ i guess you can’t and want to be considered a good rider
@farmer__
@farmer__ 2 ай бұрын
@@gnemilostiviy2370 I meant the original comment wasn't true and I can become a good rider
@gnemilostiviy2370
@gnemilostiviy2370 2 ай бұрын
@@farmer__ my bad!
@Godshand2
@Godshand2 2 ай бұрын
Hmm, MVDP's zone 2 is 250 - 320 W according to Zwift. That's 3,38 - 4,32 W/kg with a estimated weight of 74 kg (for the World Championship's in Zürich he lost weight and was below that but it is temporarily for that race).. I think that big range is quite an advantage in racing. My zone 2 is quite small; 130-160 W
@andreaswimmer6864
@andreaswimmer6864 2 ай бұрын
When I'm in my living room zone for hours my lighting fixtures put out 300 + watts continuously 😮 Don't mean to brag, just saying Maybe I'll try for the Tour next year😂
@brianbackes4974
@brianbackes4974 Ай бұрын
The 300 watt light bulb in my lamp will give me skin cancer over the course of 5 hours.
@ralphrex9118
@ralphrex9118 2 ай бұрын
I was enjoying the conversation till he said the watts, then I checked the description to see who he is, now it makes sense.
@bandarides5416
@bandarides5416 2 ай бұрын
Yep, 2 x Tour de France winner, and he won the world championship today.
@Overlorde79
@Overlorde79 2 ай бұрын
​@@bandarides54163 times
@skoflek
@skoflek 2 ай бұрын
@@bandarides5416 3 times TdF winner
@TVmuki
@TVmuki 2 ай бұрын
​@@bandarides5416 3x Tour even
@minhmeo2756
@minhmeo2756 2 ай бұрын
how did you know about watts and bike traning and not knowing who he is lol 😂
@mariuszgajek4745
@mariuszgajek4745 2 ай бұрын
🤯 Tadej is an alien.
@tadejpeckaj1151
@tadejpeckaj1151 2 ай бұрын
145bpm for 300W. Tadej, not me, but Pogačar is a beast!
@Kingkongkirk1234
@Kingkongkirk1234 2 ай бұрын
Most I’ve done them numbers for is an hour and that was flat out!
@leandromantovani4282
@leandromantovani4282 2 ай бұрын
Petter, Actually lactate goes linear till 4 according to Maden( 1976) when it starts to go up exponentially above this threshold so zone 2 it’s a bit more intense going till 4 mmol, because it’s Still an intensity that can be sustained indefinitely for trained subjects. But zone 1 would be more like 2 mmol of concentration value being this a regenerative aerobic used to recover from a previous hard zone 2 or 3 training day but is not intended to be training base. He didn’t mention anything about lactate on his training but his heartbeat rate. Professional athletes use to have a functional bradycardia meaning they can reach higher lactate values and have a lower heart rate than the usual for the same power output compared to non athletes, because they are “ lactate eaters “. and so have the ability to keep high intensity indefinitely. They can produce and metabolize lactate at the same rate more than normal people. Botton line his lactate is even higher most likely reaching 4 during the majority of the training period and is still zone 2 because zone “2” doesn’t means 2 mmols of lactate but a concept that goes beyond it, as the higher intensity that can be sustainable metabolic speaking. 👍😉
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 2 ай бұрын
It does raise turn faster a bit earlier point like 3.2 to 3.7 for most athlets.
@leandromantovani4282
@leandromantovani4282 2 ай бұрын
@@paxundpeace9970 yes it actually does. Some people in the literature divide it into two concepts the threshold 1 and 2 being the 2 the actual threshold and should be done less frequently as a “hard zone 2” compared to the “easy zone2”. At any rate it’s still sustainable and it’s not necessarily this exact same numbers for everyone because the Lactate Threshold gave place today to another concept called Maxlass that would be the maximal lactate steady state and is been found by another test protocols. It was created after some observations that some athletes were outperforming the normal curve, some of them reaching even 7 mmol stable in the row exercise. The lactate is not a villain it is actually a good guy as a form of energy that can be turn back into glucose and even a buffer for acidosis not an acidic agent like most people thinks but it’s for another discussion. We need to keep in mind that is a marker of switching energy systems but is not exactly detrimental to your body to exercise on high lactate levels if you can keep it going. It’s actually what makes you increase your condition and don’t get stuck.
@mogglie
@mogglie Ай бұрын
That’s absolutely brutal. Monster
@Zen.416
@Zen.416 2 ай бұрын
Great interview! I’m a master cyclist I’ve been doing at least 10 hours a week of zone 2 for 30 years.
@NixonsFarm
@NixonsFarm 2 ай бұрын
Unreal. Pog is incredable.
@alexlencioni545
@alexlencioni545 2 ай бұрын
Amazing athlete incredible on two wheels .🚴‍♀️
@martindelgallego5809
@martindelgallego5809 2 ай бұрын
He is a beast on a bike. The best of the best! Go Tadej!!! Stay humble. You never need to brag when you're Top Gun!
@nige
@nige 2 ай бұрын
That’s insane! 👏🏾
@AnnaDraconida
@AnnaDraconida 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely bonkers 😮
@geggs1
@geggs1 2 ай бұрын
This guy is one in a billion
@rockyourpurposepodcast
@rockyourpurposepodcast 2 ай бұрын
This is why he is so amazing.
@Lapsontheboy
@Lapsontheboy 2 ай бұрын
Those are scary numbers my god, what a machine of a man!
@dylan-howell
@dylan-howell 2 ай бұрын
LOL. His zone 2 is my all-time best threshold number. Beast.
@hannahdreyfuss7120
@hannahdreyfuss7120 2 ай бұрын
How do you calculate exercise watts?
@noelarmstrong1917
@noelarmstrong1917 2 ай бұрын
I loved the little smile 😊
@haljam8828
@haljam8828 2 ай бұрын
Watts in what? Using bike? How do i measure watts?
@MicroTicks
@MicroTicks 2 ай бұрын
Some perspective, 350 watts is what most people put out while pedaling up a hill as quickly as they can. This kid maintaining over 300 watts for 5 hours is insane
@HD46409
@HD46409 2 ай бұрын
Well I guess that's why he is what he is.... I'm Z2 at 180 watts and 135 bpm.
@patrickhaley9233
@patrickhaley9233 2 ай бұрын
@Dr A peter what does that mean?? Numbers in layman’s term brother
@mateagoston8145
@mateagoston8145 2 ай бұрын
But how many hours does he spend at higher intensities? 5 hours of z2 and 1 or 2 or 3 hours of other zones?
@dylant456
@dylant456 2 ай бұрын
I’m normally around 320 also? Do weigh 230lbs though
@JackBegotti
@JackBegotti 2 ай бұрын
How to know my zone 2 range?
@bluesparrow-hx5qf
@bluesparrow-hx5qf 2 ай бұрын
I love how he realized, that 320W for 5 hours is something special and he smiled. Decent sportsman.
@richardmiddleton7770
@richardmiddleton7770 Ай бұрын
It cuts off at the end but Pogacar was about to correct him then. He then says for a constant 5 hour flatish ride it's more like 300w and he said around 150 HR. Peter says "320-340w for 5 hours at 140 HR", which isn't quite accurate. 300w for 5 hours at zone 2 is still mightly impressive, but let's not exaggerate. Zone 2 gets exaggerated by almost all riders outside of the pro ranks! It has become a brag to exaggerate ones zone 2 numbers. Good luck to you if you stick to that principle!
@lorisanders4414
@lorisanders4414 2 ай бұрын
Wowww, my mind is blown hearing this!
@And-rc9yy
@And-rc9yy 2 ай бұрын
I'm confused; Tadej says when he's fatigued his HR is lower than when he's fresh. Can anyone explain because if I train Z2 at a constant pace, say on the treadmill my HR rises as I get fatigued.
@harmen1832
@harmen1832 2 ай бұрын
Because he tries to stay in zone 2. So when he fatigues he has to slow down to stay in zone 2, to preventie lactate build up. Which probably leads to a lower heart rate. At least, thats my interpretation of what he is saying.
@Wayword
@Wayword 2 ай бұрын
Nah nah, if you ride hard several days in a row, you'll see that your max attainable HR along with HR at submaximal steady power all go down a few bpm. It's a bit confusing because higher-than-usual HR at a given wattage could mean that you're fresh or that your fitness has gone down.
@And-rc9yy
@And-rc9yy 2 ай бұрын
@@Wayword Ah of course, yes I understand now. I don't usually train by HR, I train at a given pace, so I wasn't familiar with this. Thanks for clearing that up.
@harmen1832
@harmen1832 2 ай бұрын
@@Wayword thnx!
@pooh1967cutter1966
@pooh1967cutter1966 2 ай бұрын
Does this raise risk for abnormal artythmia over a period of time?
@kk.-_
@kk.-_ 2 ай бұрын
No
@timgerber5563
@timgerber5563 Ай бұрын
What I don’t get is: Why is his heart rate at zone 2 lower when he’s fatigued than when he‘s fresh? Shouldn’t it be the opposite? Or is he referring to zone 2 as just before lactate theshold and not a defined watt output?
@samre234
@samre234 2 ай бұрын
the thing I like about him is he seems to be having fun with it.
@aquamarine99911
@aquamarine99911 2 ай бұрын
Of course it all depends on your level of fitness. I'm 65, When I'm good a keeping to at weekly HIIT or especially SIT schedule, my (subjective - nose-breathing) Zone 2 is between 130 or even up to 140. I was amazed. But ... I'm not always in such good shape.
@bettjeman123
@bettjeman123 2 ай бұрын
This is unbelievable… thanks for asking these questions Peter. Amazing info for power nerds
@mannyvelo
@mannyvelo 2 ай бұрын
Lotsa dreamer cyclists absolutely crushed hearing that. Guess I’m sticking to my weekly B ride.
@tdub7998
@tdub7998 2 ай бұрын
Tadej might be the first believable android.
@alessandrobertoli7950
@alessandrobertoli7950 2 ай бұрын
Zone 2 at 145-150 bpm?
@esa4141
@esa4141 2 ай бұрын
You should have pushed answer to the question of how much from total training time is used on Z2
@lorisanders4414
@lorisanders4414 2 ай бұрын
His very low lactate level is SUPERBLY impressive! ❤
@dorianmarchal6186
@dorianmarchal6186 2 ай бұрын
His Z2 is my FTP and I'm considered as a top amateur rider in my area, that shows how elite he is.
@yehiaismail2451
@yehiaismail2451 2 ай бұрын
How does one know their watts?
@victorcortot8413
@victorcortot8413 2 ай бұрын
power sensor
@LeeSpot
@LeeSpot 2 ай бұрын
Can someone estimate for me what it would be approximately in km/h?
@jerzybaszak9212
@jerzybaszak9212 2 ай бұрын
Just above 40 km/h
@fabiobucelli
@fabiobucelli 2 ай бұрын
Yes its incredibile. This is my zone 5-6. But this guy is also the best cyclist on earth and probably in history. He does only this all day long, he is trained with all best methodologies and tbh I would not be overly surprised to find out that he gets some not so legit help. The comparison with an amateur is silly
@g.......g
@g.......g 2 ай бұрын
And here I am wondering if it's 5 hours per day? or per week? 😅
@gitnjur
@gitnjur 2 ай бұрын
He literally says going non stop
@g.......g
@g.......g 2 ай бұрын
@@gitnjur I need to listen again. Figured at the end he meant in one setting. amazing endurance.
@narakdk
@narakdk 2 ай бұрын
isnt supposed to be a secret for competitors? Still dont understand how much watt that is : )
@rdklkje13
@rdklkje13 2 ай бұрын
Yes and no. They don’t exchange the precise details but everyone can compare their own numbers with where the others are at in a race. Plus there are people who calculate w/kg estimates very accurately for specific climbs.
@yianpap6093
@yianpap6093 2 ай бұрын
How can his zone 2 be 150? Is his max HR 210-220?
@edwardtan8307
@edwardtan8307 2 ай бұрын
How fast is his average Speed in zone 2?
@kham08
@kham08 2 ай бұрын
Oh, and he’s only 26. Other cyclists take years longer to reach their peak. That’s why there’s a classification for “Under 23” at the TdF, because they’re not expected to have ultimate conditioning by that age and need a trophy to compete for. This dude was winning Tours at 22. How’s he gonna pull when he’s 30? Insane.
@rejijai9120
@rejijai9120 19 күн бұрын
unbelievable ❤
@jermstaallen4913
@jermstaallen4913 2 ай бұрын
Wow I just can’t imagine 320-340 watts in zone 2, absolute machine!
@swites
@swites 2 ай бұрын
For him that's basically 5w/kg. Very few average amateur cyclists are able to get to 5w/kg for 20mins as a maximum effort. I saw some statistics awhile back but have forgotten the details, but think only 1 or 2% of the overall cyclist community can get to 5w/kg for 20mins and he's doing it for hours hardly raising a sweat! Incredible!
@mario.221
@mario.221 2 ай бұрын
Make's me proud that I have a 5w/Kg ftp
@swites
@swites 2 ай бұрын
@@mario.221 you should be! Very very good compared to normal!
@markolmstead4709
@markolmstead4709 2 ай бұрын
He is, what you would call, a freak.
@rdklkje13
@rdklkje13 2 ай бұрын
After the WCs Merkcx finally said TP is the best ever, that he himself was never this good (his ‘24 season). Freak indeed.
@laurapiovan
@laurapiovan 2 ай бұрын
Is he talking about zone 2 within a 3 zones model? (In other words, between LT1 and LT2) Or… is he talking about zone 2 in a 5 zones model? (So zone 2 = below LT1)
@chrissssssss007
@chrissssssss007 2 ай бұрын
Isn’t that high for zone 2? I thought zone 2 is 60-70% of max HR??
@victorcortot8413
@victorcortot8413 2 ай бұрын
ho got a high max hr
@chrissssssss007
@chrissssssss007 2 ай бұрын
@@victorcortot8413 young I guess
@timm9000
@timm9000 2 ай бұрын
My peak fitness I would do a 107 mile ride @235w, my heart rate rose into 150s in the last hour. Average HR was around 145. He does 320-340w @145… that is insane.
@markolmstead4709
@markolmstead4709 2 ай бұрын
And what was your weight?
@timm9000
@timm9000 2 ай бұрын
@@markolmstead4709 160 -165 5’11 I’ve done the bike in a half iron in 2:07
@michaelc1280
@michaelc1280 2 ай бұрын
320w is incredible at 140bpm
@Roadbikerider79
@Roadbikerider79 2 ай бұрын
Those numbers are crazy🤯
@Lapsontheboy
@Lapsontheboy 2 ай бұрын
Tamau pogi is not the only Slovenian who was unreal racer! Check out this animal named Jure Robič! Won the race across America 5 times (then a recore in men's solo category) 2004--5-7.8 and 2010! They cheated him in 2009-he received atime penalty for urinating in a non designated place on the start day of the race! He was racing all over the globe, but died like half an hour from his home, when he was hit by a drunk driver
@BlahBlahPoop617
@BlahBlahPoop617 2 ай бұрын
That’s over 5700 cal burned in 5 hrs of training at 320 watts. Insane.
@Timba246
@Timba246 2 ай бұрын
isnt 140-150 bpm is not a zone2 by definition? well if his max heart rate is like 210 then of course but is it?
@ramsden35
@ramsden35 2 ай бұрын
320 to 340 zone 2! Nobody is catching this fella.
@henri2101
@henri2101 2 күн бұрын
previous winter season for gym i managed to get like 300 avg watts for 1h 40min recovery ride with 115 avg heart rate my lowest ever for that power also for same distance (68km) 1h 42 min i got 428 avg watts my avg heart rate was 153 and for last 10 km i did 470 watts spurt with 182 max heart rate i have no idea how my legs was that insane during that record first i though the bike is broken or something because it felt easy 2nd best record is pretty far from that its "only" 400 avg watts that broke the 400 avg watts limit for me first time ever
@sajanshahi6638
@sajanshahi6638 2 ай бұрын
Next question how much of electricity did u produce last week
@pointbreak2811
@pointbreak2811 2 ай бұрын
So his ftp is at least 500w?
@cyclingseth4580
@cyclingseth4580 2 ай бұрын
More like 450/460 ish
@OUTDOORS55
@OUTDOORS55 2 ай бұрын
Thats, INSANE....
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