HOW MUCH to repair an old Chimney??- Cost Analysis

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya guys! A lot of knowledgeable people here in the comments with a wealth more business experience than myself. Great to hear all the feed back! Some people have highlighted loads more "business expenses" i didn't even consider. A few examples are; Tools wearing out Van MOT + maintaining the van Phone (Didn't take this into account when breaking down the costs) But these are all very vaild costs that as self-employed workers we should try to consider. After looking at these costs and a few others, it would probably double the original cost mentioned in the video. Again, appreciate the knowledge shared on here in the comments, not only for myself, but other viewers who read the comments and people who watch the video. The main reason i started YT was to create a community where information was shared between us all. Very aware there's so much to learn regarding thr business side of being a construction worker. We're taught to be builder's, joiner's, or whatever trade. Not often taught about business. We're construction workers at the end of the day😂 Hope you guys are well. ITB weekly to commence soon... ish

[@spotfreefinish]

Never quote for time, just price a job. Never mention how long it will take!

[@SS-vz9iv]

Conversation we were having last week.. we learn our trades and strive to do a good job and do right by the customer. College taught us how to add up calculate quantities of materials. And nobody told us how to price or actually make any money 😅

[@mrcottrell]

So all your fixed costs taken in to account, the. Your day rate at £220 a day plus 20% "profit"!? how does that work

[@user-qk5mp6zg8n]

Hi how much will be cost to remove the chimney stack tanks

[@MrsDukey]

The big test for me when watching videos is would I be happy to have the person working at my house. The answer in your case is most certainly YES. Great workmanship and a delight to have around. Take care , good to see you back.

[@markpowellmp]

Is that flue liner in use? If it wasn’t would you have removed it?

[@IzzytheBricky]

@@markpowellmp hiya it wasn't in use as it was capped years ago. But the flue linder was just stuck in there😂 hope your doing well mate

[@user-Simon-64]

Izzy - Loving your stuff mate, but never forget that lost days to weather are an overhead too, probably your biggest after the van running costs, unless you have another income stream when you can't be on the tools. A word to the wise from a roofer 42 years in the game, don't fight shy of putting your labour charge up across the board to part accommodate lost time to the elements. Sensible people, who want a good job done, will pay sensible money. Keep grafting!!

[@stevewoodward7850]

This young man is an excellent tradesman and considering his age, knows exactly what he's doing to make a first class job of anything he attempts. Very knowledgeable and his attention to detail is a first class example to other trades people. I wish he would travel out Retford to build me some brick gate pillars on my grade 2 building....

[@lhayes7516]

steve woodward, doncaster based bricklayer... i can give you a quote for that

[@markrobinson1458]

Lovely to see you looking after your gran, pain in the neck old chimneys, best taken down in my humble opinion. 👍

[@martinwarner1178]

Enjoyed the video. Why would I not enjoy a nice young fellow helping is old Grandma. Peace, goodwill and all the best for your future.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks very much . Martin, appreciate it and hope you're doing very well!

[@Alan_AB]

Great video, Izzy. As a "ball park figure" I was taught that the running costs of a small business were X3 the workman's wage. ie, if a man earns £20/hr then the running costs were roughly a further £60/hr. (This was based on a small company with added personel in the background, secretery, etc).

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks so much mate appreciate it! Hope you have a good weekend!

[@samuelhaines617]

Cheers from the US, mate. I found this video to be insightful as i am young in my own business working for myself and it helps to have reference. Stay bold, brother!

[@Alan.92n]

Quality work as always, Izzy, along with the cost breakdown. Welcome back, keep the vlogs going, when you can. All the best! 👍 😊

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks so much! 😊

[@tedspens]

You are a very good grandson. Thank you for the cost breakdown. I'm pricing a similar chimney repair here in the US, which I was thinking is about an $800, or pretty close to your 636 lbs.

[@davidsanders2806]

Not seen you on here for ages mate ,good to see you back on .

[@javedmushtaq3099]

Having watched some of your earlier videos, you truly have had a great upbringing. You value your grandparents and respect them. Young man, cherish them for they will not be around forever! I wish you all the success in your life, be it personal or business. 💕

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thank you so much for your kind words

[@javedmushtaq3099]

@@IzzytheBricky Thank you for finding the time to reply to our individual comments. 👍

[@RobBeales]

As a builder for over fifty years I enjoyed repairing chimney stacks, especially in summer, sometimes you could just lift the first half a dozen courses off that’s virtually laid on dust , we found the best way to deal with damaged stacks was to take it down to solid bricks and mortar and rebuild them. They will last a very long time and not need repointing 😊

[@IzzytheBricky]

Brilliant stuff mate! Appreciate the comment! Hope your well

[@vc6769]

From your experience Rob, what would you recommend for air vents in roof tiles?

[@user-DANWALKER1066]

I could watch your videos all day long! Such a nice guy ❤

[@jackhadfield3943]

I’m just starting out doing jobs around my area, bricklaying and land maintenance work etc. Been at it 3 years and have brought a truck! More vids like this would be amazing to see over the business side of things. I’d like to see you back in action on your own jobs as the graft you do is impressive 👍🏼

[@sjwalker01]

Izzy. Good to see you back. Don’t forget to add the cost of a replacement van, tools and clothing in your calculations.

[@towoombaresident8491]

Good to see you back buddy and helping out your nanna. Hope you had a good break.

[@cherrybrandy269]

Very nice job. You've got your priorities spot on.

[@TimothyEhrich]

Very nice to help out your grandma.

[@Ogma3bandcamp]

Miss your regular content mate but I understand how things are. Just as long as you pop in nar and again for a cuppa.

[@robinhadley]

Alright mate,glad to see your still kicking around. Looking forward to more vids. Cant be as easy to film working for a company.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya mate, cheers for still being here! Nail on the head! Few more hurdles to jump over now

[@martinsylvester1823]

Exceptionally good value for a quality repair. Good to see a new video Izzy, keep em coming

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks so much really appreciate it buddy! Hope you're well!

[@banditrider613]

you presentation style is really good, thanks for showing your skills.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thank you mate

[@markdyballuk]

good to have you back Izzy, sorry you don't work for yourself but hope you enjoy working for others. all the best

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers mate appreciate the support and I like it this way, nothing to be sorry about 😊

[@markdyballuk]

@@IzzytheBricky i have this thought that anyone with a real talent, which you undoubtedly do, should always work for themselves for some reason. I'm glad to hear working for others works for you though mate and you're a good man for doing the job for your grandma. you're a credit to her.

[@RiddlePC]

Hope to see more of you on youtube Isaac, miss your weekly series.

[@danielfifaking]

Good break down, although you should consider dividing your monthly expenses by how many days you are available to work in a month. I.e by 20 or 24 if you work Saturdays. 28 if Sundays too.

[@SirCorneliusPeregrine]

I'm English and live in Austria. I have a smaller chimney than this, and it has some wear on the bricks, but here they are protected by a strange resin covering and that is coming away. A builder quoted me 15,000 euros to refurbish it. So, I gotta try and do it myself this summer.

[@bchdsailor]

Loooooong vacation or too busy to post videos Izzy? Good to have you back, and yes: You are nice with your grandma and that is what we are supposed to

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers mate appreciate it! Just getting things in order before getting into full videos again. Currently have a few bits and bobs to put out😊

[@adambradley8645]

Hello Izzy, hreat video as always. Im got to rebuild a stack quite soon local to macc, its very similar to that but thd cost is 950 +vat. All prices were similar i got. Day rate has to be at least 300 to 350 otherwise when you've taken off the costs you've mentioned you're working for not a lot. But thats only if you're good with a great reputation, which you have. Just my opinion. Atb Izzy 👍

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks so much mate I really appreciate the comment. You're probably right with the DW, each to their own. Think every trade person needs to take into account their own running costs and go from there! Hope your doing well mate!

[@Zebsy]

Interesting info - I would add that van cost should include depreciation of the van, or the cost to lease a van for the month.

[@topcatcoolio8807]

Hi Izzy. Mix i recommend for Flaunching chimney top. 1 cem, 1 lime 2soft builders sand. 1 Sharp sand.1 Grano chippings. They all combine to make a long lasting topping. I also do a bit of a bullnose on the front sloping upwards. To stop the sharp wdge breaking up at edges. Take care mate

[@terrystephens1102]

Great job, Izzy.😁👌❤️❤️

[@robdixon786]

Top job it's all bout family nice to see you back izzy

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers brother

[@scottnever8732]

good to see you, been a while. I too hate pricing thats why I just work for other contractors, doing the work then having to price jobs is too much hassle.

[@chriswatkins323]

Nice to see u back

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks Chris

[@jimboBFC1]

Good video as per usual mate, an education.

[@Southpoint2019]

Lovely job Isaac

[@gerrymcguinness2684]

Hi Izzy, love your video, for the top of chimney a tar would help, here in New York we use Henry Fiber Asphalt Roof Coat.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya mate, appreciate that!, never heard of using that before! But know you lads so things different to over here! Hope your well! Currently sat in the van waiting for the rain to stop!

[@wajopek2679]

I had my entire weathered chimney rebuilt in Yorkshire (looked exactly the same as this one) but out of engineering bricks 2 yrs back. Cost me £1800. Looks stunning now.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Brilliant stuff mate ! Glad it's looking great for you!

[@kyecarroll1636]

Good to see ya brother! Looks well👍

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers Kyle!

[@fluff4115]

Thanks Izzy for sharing how much you would charge to do a job - Can you do this for future video's too? -Thank you

[@robertwilson54]

I wondered where you had gone never seem to get your videos anymore, but I suppose you don’t put up videos that often if you are working for a company, good luck in whatever you decide to do.

[@markhep]

Izzy mate good to see a vid again.how was the big holiday.you pritty much on the Money I charge .but we do pay double that on scaffolding.they charge us twice the price in Yorkshire probably 600 for that scaf👍

[@mattseaton3521]

You should definitely mark up your overheads if you want to ensure profitability. Even if it’s just a small amount. Your labour doesn’t need marking up, but I’d definitely ensure that your overheads have some ‘fat’ on them at least.

[@stevens5541]

If you don't have a drill or angle grinder to take those bricks out you sometimes can use a hand saw which works really well as long as the mortar isn't too hard and the risk of damage is minimal.

[@ianmarsden8568]

That mortar did look very hard.

[@yvonfem]

Nice job izzy and a very reasonable price

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks mate

[@vman2kay]

Don't forget when you consider costs you incur, when you get paid then that's taxed, so you should add it onto your price of things you pay out of your own pocket to turn up, to make sure you aren't out of pocket!

[@jagracershoestring609]

I would have put a Flue Liner in for the gas fire whilst I was up there. Old Chimneys are leaky for gas fumes. Good job and charge a grand next time to cover your guarantee, just in case.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya mate appreciate it! The Gas fire has long been removed 😊

[@Charlton2010]

@@IzzytheBrickyif it’s been removed then you should of just pulled the liner out and capped the top or put a nice pot and flying saucer on 😂

[@Ramblingpete]

The sad thing is there no insurance no one likes to claim especially builders sorry mate that’s the way it is

[@westhamaremassivee]

I love rebuilding chimneys but to many silly customers think you can do it off a ladder and dont wanna pay for scaffolding lol

[@Alexj-wc5yz]

Exactly this the increase in hse legislation means even if you are working on a domestic property you still have to abide by all the standard rules for commercial works, although unlikely if you were subject to a spot check you would be thrown into the fire for not erecting a scaffold. More so if you have guys working for you

[@FromMetayou]

I've done it of a ladder but that was 35 yrs ago lol and in Macclesfield where the roofs were so steep you could use as a ski 🎿 jump

[@andymann4936]

Would you recommend any coating on the bricks/top e.g. Thompsons water seal or in the mix itself?

[@pauldixon3677]

Mice one Izzy. Looking after your Nan. LBC's cost a feckin fortune and they're all like bananas! In South West we have an alternative manufacturer doing a LBC Heather lookalike, they are good bricks and blend well. Guess you had LBC imperial sized bricks (based on age of chimney) and the new are LBC metric, minor size difference but does make a difference as you found out! Other costs you might need to include are your mobile phone costs as its a tool!

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks so much for the comment mate! Definitely the worst brick going those LBC's! Another oversight regarding phone and that! Daily cost is looking more like 30 quid after reading though these comments 😂!

[@timalejandroalm]

Hi mate, sparky here. Don’t forget to add in a % for not having things like holiday pay, sick pay, paternity leave and employer pension contributions. General public doesn’t understand the big gap between what you charge and what ends up in your pocket

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers mate! Appreciate your input! ...and ey..what's a sparky doing watching a scruffy bricklayer 😂😘

[@timalejandroalm]

Appreciate anyone good at their job mate 👌

[@pkeiths1594]

would it be worth using Masonry Protection Cream help with weather protection?

[@MarcusT86]

Good video buddy. Nice of you to do that for your nan. Nowt wrong with your robust head of hair btw. I was fully bald by 24! 😮

[@user-tz8jz9zt6d]

Nice video. I was wondering if you go back after a few days/week to pointer the chimney? In the netherland if im not mistaken after building a wall they do the pointering after a few days/weeks.

[@jordan8168]

you would divide insurance monthly cost by 20 days; if you only work weekdays as 4 weeks x5 is 20 obviously if you work Saturdays account for that but itll be 24, also adding 30-40% profit on smaller jobs, as the money may be less and the percentage may not always work out worthwhile profit wise if you account for time spent, this is if your paying yourself per hr not day rate - also id look into setting up a ltd company as this will allow better tax relief ie, setup the business in your name and then you can claim dividends rather than taking a wage this greatly lowers your tax payments , this is different in terms of me as i work from a workshop so i have a set rate per hr of work that has already accounted for overheads and profit i also charge 10% handling fee on materials

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Nope, it costs to run a business 365 days a year. You need to be allowing for costs every single day. You don't pay road tax only on the days you drive the van, you don't pay insurance only on the days you work, you pay these costs 365 days a year.

[@jordan8168]

@@stuartcraigon2003 i mean thats like saying i need a length of box for a job which is 7.5m but i only need 1 metre of box for the job you gonna charge for the length or what was used? No one works 365 days a year lets be honest, it only works out at about 2 months a year youd need to find the extra money for, if you price your jobs right you can just pay it from the profit

[@matthewroberts157]

Break it down to 20 days in a month to allow for Saturday and Sunday off

[@tonym992]

Divide your monthly costs by 20 not 30 Izzy. 4 weeks X 5 working days. Keep the videos coming mate.

[@notrut]

How many weeks Holiday do you want per year? You need to charge more.

[@markjarvis9780]

£636, absolute bargain. Wouldn’t even get a scaffold put up for that where I’m from. Or LBC heathers for less than £2 per brick 🤣

[@nicklawrence6865]

Great job Izzy

[@chrisgregory2269]

Great job

[@JackJack-ld5eo]

Mortar to steel, no deal. That cap is going to crack the crown, allowing water in and starting the whole deterioration process all over again. Wrap the top of the pipe just below the crown with Ceramic wool insulation. As for your cost breakdown, the way you did the insurances should have been divided by the days you work in a month, not by the amount of days in the month. Otherwise, at the end of the month, you're going to be short. I put in an allowance for breakage for the roof tiles. If I didn't rebuild the whole chimney, I would at least repoint it from the roofline up. That repointing mortar is too strong for those bricks and they will spall. And aesthetically it will look much better. Sorry for the rant. I have been doing chimney and fireplace restoration exclusively for the last 32 years.

[@IzzytheBricky]

Appreciate all the feedback mate! Definitely noted the insulation! Hope you have a good weekend

[@vc6769]

What mortar mix would you recommend for a chimney? I'd appreciate your advice please.

[@tombrehony6277]

Nice Job, those sand faced flettons should never have been used in the first place . Especially in an exposed area like a chimney.

[@davidbridge3542]

I would have been tempted not to put the top layers back on. The stack height was probably built to suit solid flue back in the day, gas fire would not need the height. Plus, would the flue need checking with a gas safe engineer to prove no flue leakage ?? It had been disturbed 😳!

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya buddy appreciate the comment! Only built it cos that's how the boss wanted it😂💪 and yes your right there...but, she doesn't actually have a gas fire anymore, it's all been disconnected and boarded over😊

[@davidbridge3542]

In that case I would have definitely dropped it...maybe even tiled it over 😅🤣

[@Southpoint2019]

The hard cement helps retain moisture in the bed joint. The softer bed joint disintegrates as it can’t breathe. LBC heathers or dapples are awful

[@junkemails5050]

Could you have also covered the drip edge with cement? Cement on too but on the sides, the dripping edge is made out of bricks, water will be absorbed there

[@ronyay3586]

A mortar fillet always tends to fall off from what ive seen on chimneys but you could if you feather it in properly

[@cliveramsbotty6077]

come down to london mate, you'd rake it in

[@johnfisher7143]

No two jobs are alike when it comes to pricing. I would price on how much aggravation the job would cause as a formula in my head. Such as how difficult was the location, did I like the client, how close could I get my truck and equipment to the job, how much wear and tear was this job going to cause to me and my equipment etc. that’s why I’d never discuss hourly rates with customers, I’d just quote a price based on a feeling and formula in my head. And I did quite nicely thanks.

[@dan-cherrypicker-man]

I think you need to charge a little more. I hope you don't work 30 days per month to begin with. Also you should factor in some time for quoting etc. I think £800ish would still be a fair price. Great video by the way. 👍

[@chrisjordan4214]

£636 for a piece of cake gotta love yer gran !!!!!!!!!!

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hahaha cheers Chris! Ey hope you're well!

[@jamesward5721]

Big firm, this job would be thousands not hundreds - because they know 80% will go to costs & taxes. If they run stuff real slick, they might get to keep half of the 20% in the medium term. At a glance, I can see loads that a bigger concern wouldn't get away with - that's not a criticism, it's just how it is. Which is where the costs come in. Firstly, they'd need an engineers report on the damage & an engineers report on the fix. They'd need better access safety & waste disposal blah blah - they need method statements & safety audits on the job. They'd need everything certified, including the scaff. They'd have to warranty the repair, the repair would take 3 or 4 times as long & they have a back-office to run too - plus a salesman to pay for getting the job, and on and on on the costs front - which is why this would be thousands.

[@Jaaammmbbbooo]

£636 to have a 3rd of a chimney taken down and rebuilt. It is crazy how much things cost. I know people will say it costs what it costs but it is crazy and it will only go up. This is the trouble with the system. Prices go up but not down and then people dont have money to apend on their home so their home deteriorates and the cycle gets worse.

[@hunterb9273]

Forgot the cost of the van and its maintenance, the cost of the tools, Consumable costs like office, ppe etc..., time taken to quote, fetch materials, there's loads to consider. Including warranty returns etc..

[@200milesaway6]

You work 30 days a week? Divide it by 20 instead. Also, work out depreciation on the van and tools as they will cost money to replace when they wear out.

[@davidobrien1489]

Good man. You sound a bit apologetic, but that’s what things cost today. I’d pay that easily IF ITS A GOOD JOB DONE. Having watched you a bit I’d trust you on my house. Crack on kid.

[@martinclark7122]

Mate come to Australia, most brickies here pick numbers out the air and charge what they like, so much work they can pick and choose their jobs, they do a lousy job, every job needs to be acid washed to clean off the smeared cement. A an example 2 work friends had new houses built, one had all the brickwork condemned and, builder said it was "to code" had to pay for an independent inspector and threaten legal action, cement between bricks varied between 2mm to 10mm. The other paid for upgraded bricks but the job was so bad, complained to the building inspector (they are all employed by the builder!!) and again threatened legal action, the builder ended up rendering the house.

[@seanduffy5251]

Don't forget your holiday pay and bank holidays!! and divide it by 48 weeks not 52. i run my own joinery business and use to think my overheads were v little until i broke it down to the hour, was robbing myself for a few years at the start.

[@malcolmanon4762]

Other costs for yourself - pension costs, insurance to cover if you can't work, costs of accountant (if you have one), NI stamp etc etc

[@GeoffRapley]

why havent you matched the existing pointing and used a jointing iron instead of a weather struck joint as per original

[@davetlane]

I’ve just paid £4700 to have both my stacks repaired and lined for wood burners. Scaffolding alone was £1000. Both are beasty sized stacks being a Victorian property

[@pauljohnson9698]

Dave me paint your front door very good price 18thousand five hundred and two pounds Dave be quick ill do a marvellous job and I'll even bring you coffee

[@johnf3326]

What's your mortar and flaunch mix ratios? Would you consider some form of weather/storm seal on the whole stack?

[@user-DANWALKER1066]

That job would be about £1250 down in South East including scaffolding…that might include VAT!

[@IzzytheBricky]

Cheers brother appreciate it!!

[@user-DANWALKER1066]

@@IzzytheBricky yes I think your pricing is too cheap if I’m being honest. Your a quality bricklayer and out perform many others by the looks of it - you can demand a premium for that! A quality tradesmen is worth every penny if you want the job done right! I reckon you should be charging about £300 per day minimum. Just my thoughts. I’m an electrician by trade but do put my hand to most things and electricians now getting £600 per day minimum in London areas maybe lots more. Bricklayers in south east £300 per day minimum. You supply your own equipment that you’ve bought too don’t forget that. Yeh I think you’re worth £300 per day minimum! You work hard and get lots done. Your self employed maybe working for another firm charging the prices you said about as a sub contractor but for Joe Bloggs deffo £300 per day minimum.

[@benchippy8039]

Mkm bought out my favourite independent merchant and put the prices up thru the roof

[@2012lmfao]

Thanks for this I got ripped off in Nottingham. I got got charged £850 to repoint my chimney and sort some flashing out

[@tomnapper101]

Use a mini grinder two cut brick out you want to any damage 👍

[@lawrencecarlin4309]

Great work mate

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks mate

[@michaelfk2548]

Big thumbs up !

[@IzzytheBricky]

Yes mate!

[@julianpritchard2558]

You forgot, van road tax , van running costs and maintenance, MOT. costs and associated work, also you should ALWAYS add a percentage to materials ( you sorted them out, you sourced them ) all this takes time and time is money. NEVER DO ANYTHING FOR NOTHING, unless it’s your Gran .

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hoya mate thanks so much for these things. Another oversight on my behalf. Just dropped 500 quid again on my van! I'll take this into account next time!

[@chriswilkinson3260]

You should always charge for waste aswell as your paying out to get rid of other people's waste from the job so you should price for waste so the customers are paying to get rid of there own waste as you missed this out in your video when you was running down your prices good job mate looks well

[@gotmunchiez]

Very good point. Also the van needs maintenance and needs replacing every few years. Accountancy, website fees if you have one, tools and consumables, VAT will be a reality eventually. Not to mention you won't get every job you quote for so your time spent quoting and invoicing needs considering. This is why running a business isn't for everyone, most people are uncomfortable asking for the amount of money you need to charge to stay in business, and find it hard justifying their costs when the inevitable "how much?" rears it's head.

[@darrenthebuilder]

Those two damaged bricks are where being able to do those colour match brick repairs would come in handy so you dont have to take our the whole bricks

[@Jaaammmbbbooo]

Doesnt that 2024 you put just hold water and eventually allow the process to fail quicker?

[@tana1234]

You don't divide your costs by 30 days, you do it by working days so 20 assuming you work 5 days a week

[@barrieneill410]

Perhaps I missed it in the comments, but unless you want to work until you drop, something towards a “pension”. If you go down the standard pension route at least the tax man chips in.

[@johnyates1470]

Brilliant very helpful to know thanks

[@IzzytheBricky]

Thanks ks mate

[@alec1113]

Hello izzy , I couldn't find your email , ex brit in usa . Can you please let me know what your mortar mix is for the bricks and the mix for the chimney cap . As much information would be appreciated, all the best 👍

[@IzzytheBricky]

Hiya mate hope your really well over there! It was a 2n1 mix. 2 part sharp sand and 1 part cement. The sharp sand acts as a solid concrete base for the top of the chimney. Think you guys should have sharp sand/grit sand over there😊 all the best mate, any questions, just reply back to us here

[@alec1113]

Cheers izzy , will the same mix be used for repointing and laying brick , as you did with the chimney . You are correct ,I don't know the equivalent to sharp sand over here .thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it 👍

[@peterfcoyle9127]

Is the was on the top lime mortar as well?

[@robertpowell7672]

How about adding in the cost of replacing your van Izzy?

[@joebloggs6699]

ya don't forget about underwear wear, that costs china!

[@stephengreen6338]

Pricing, was always the awkward part for me too, if I went to move a cooker, lets say two feet for the client, and said £40, they would, say its only moving two feet, I would have to say" its not just the job, liabilities, advertising, fuel cost, all the consumables, gas, flux, solder etc, the van, the fuel, materials, labour, etc, etc, so its not just the two feet your paying for, or and the skill required

[@TEDBOVIS-h9n]

Christ ! scaffolding , you never heard of a ladder hahaha ! . . In the eighties that exact job you did was worth £40 . . . Lol 😊

[@gingerturtle4229]

When a pint was 30p.