How (not) to follow a classic | RTX 2080 Ti

[@kawanbastos7852]

I got the 2080 ti super cheap after having a gtx 1060 6gb, it was a massive upgrade and i am super happy with it

[@Rebe-Caufman]

😂

[@ThePeca1988]

Of course, but i can assure you, you would have a massive upgrade with pretty much everything else too 😀

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

Why are you guys gatekeeping upgrades?

[@mitchjames9350]

If you got it cheap

[@DengueBurger]

Yeah it’s about twice the price of the 1080ti for twice the performance it seems

[@mattforeman4508]

Oddly enough, this is the video I’ve been hoping for. I game in the rear view mirror, so old tech that’s still functional but can be had cheaper than new is my go to. Over the last few months, I moved from RX580 to a 1080Ti and now a 2080Ti. I find the 2080Ti to be a delight to use. I can crank up settings, run some RT and still enjoy over 60FPS. Old reviews crap on the card for its price compared to the 1080Ti, which was truthfully the only thing “wrong” with it (Micron chips aside). I’m glad you identified that, Ice Berg. I’d love to see an MSRP analysis of the 2080Ti’s performance vs the same of the newer gens.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

these youtub er just live of the nvidia hate. They have cultivated a community of people with next to no critical thinking that will just parrot their own opinions.

[@youraveragejoephoto]

@@_qwe_fk_1700while I do believe there are some KZbinrs out there who could possibly be seen this way, I don’t believe it applies here. I’ve watched all of icebergs videos over the last couple of years and only ever found him to be very objective, fair and down to earth. He’s got the same every man’s pc hardware reviewer style as people such as RGIHD and I think a lot of people appreciate that. Especially when so many KZbinrs are very focused on the high end these days.

[@lucyc776]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 Except people aren't saying NVIDIA is bad because their GPUs are trash, they're saying NVIDIA is price hiking their cards for profit which they absolutely are. $2000 for a 4090? A joke. A 4080 Super is $1000-1100 which while still overpriced, a $1000 jump between the 4080 Super and 4090 is insane. If anyone has no critical thinking skills, it's you. You're being contrarian to reasonable opinions and for what? Superiority? A feeling of "not following the crowd"? What a joke. I agree it's bad to follow blindly, but ignoring basic facts to be contrarian? Just sad, really.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@lucyc776 womp womp

[@KonglomeratYT]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 This just in, comparing prices now = hating. "Wow. This tea costs 2x as much as the last tea did. Does it taste 2x as good?" I now hate tea, apparently.

[@ThePlaydohWarrior]

I only got rid of my 2080ti earlier this year thanks to a generous gift. It's a great card that still has a ton of life left in it.

[@emanuelriquelme1133]

It isn't a bad card at all, it is pretty much the same as a rtx 3070 ti and only 20% less than a rtx 4070 a card that cost 600 dollars

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

It'll be useful for longer than the 3070 or 3070ti.

[@strumfpinochio273]

​@@emanuelriquelme1133the 2080ti its on par with the 3060ti not the 3070

[@catfishxX]

​@@strumfpinochio273almost 3070 ( rt off and no dlss or upscaling)

[@ExistentialEmpire]

@@strumfpinochio273 it performs better than the 3070(only slightly),and it has more vram

[@TanGoku-22]

*This 👉RTX👈 is what causes Nvidia to start becoming Ngreedia*

[@Tan-wc7mh]

👉RTX👈

[@AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu]

👉RTX👈

[@spectex304]

Real

[@FalseOracle617]

1000000000000%

[@RawfunRahman]

yall gamers dont realize how the RTX cards revolutionized 3d CG and Machine Learning and never will. All you know about being a developer is clicking "make game button", "make optimized game button" "make realistic graphics button" brainrotter dumbfricks

[@markba233Gaming]

i find the RTX 2080ti one of the best cards on the used market , usually in uk you get them at around £270 and for that price you cant beat Price/Performance

[@rogerbowen5753]

You got lucky there, my FE set me back £400. Still glad I got it though. The alternative was a 4060!

[@rifter_1695]

Isnt the 5700xt better in terms of performance and price however? I bought a 5700xt for less than 150 dollars and looked at some videos and it seemed to perform better than the 1080ti. Please correct me if Im wrong however!

[@darthwiizius]

@@rifter_1695 The 5700XT has better DX12 and Vulcan performance from it's RDNA chips than Pascal. In modern games a 2060 now performs alongside and even beats 1080tis too for the same reasons. Mind you, the much maligned 2060 was actually one of the bigger gen on gen upgrades in 60 cards (the 1060 was an even bigger upgrade over the 960) coming out at launch matched to the raster performance of a 1080 and over 50% faster than than the 1060. The 5700xt is more like a 2070Super in terms of raster performance and IMO is today's RX580 in terms of being the best bang for bucks GPU you can buy.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@rifter_1695The 5700xt is not the same class of performance, it's around maybe a 2070/super. But it is a VERY good deal!

[@IgorkubMASTER]

@@rogerbowen5753 In Poland you can find the 2080 Ti for around 240 GBP i bought a Msi Ventus version for that price.

[@yourneighbourhooddoomer]

I upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a RTX 2080 Ti back when Turing launched and right before prices on even used GPUs skyrocketed. Can't complain honestly, RDR2, CP2077 all run fine with high settings, FSR/DLSS either balanced or quality, with ultra performance I can even run Cyberpunk with RT lighting and reflections while having 60-80 fps. Hopefully the card will survive until the PC release of GTA 6, won't upgrade until then since there hasn't been a new release yet that got me interested.

[@koreannom]

Mine sort of started dying after 3 years so I had to buy a 4060 ti on short notice :c Was the best thing I could afford at the time (wanted to avoid AMD since I was still concerned with drivers at the time since an RX 580 almost made me fail an exam due to glitching out graphically in the middle of it).

[@suchirghuwalewala]

​@@koreannom That is one of the best reasons someone has had i have heard to not buy AMD 😂 Almost failing an exam due to a gpu ? Thats new

[@koreannom]

@@suchirghuwalewala Yeah, was worth 50% of the grade too. GPU almost cost me my Grade Point Average and $1.5k in course fees.

[@worldwar208]

Rdna 4 might be actually exciting if it's got 7900xt to 7900xtx performance for 500$

[@expert8665]

We need to protest for a same day release for gta6 pc version

[@Hyper.773]

Despite what everyone's said about the reference 20 series cards looking trash, I really like the look of them. They're probably my favorite reference model designs out of anything else. Unfortunately, that's about all the positives the 20 series has

[@suchirghuwalewala]

IKR... The 20 series looks so awesome and so clean

[@tourmaline07]

Those reference cards are absolute art - pity the cooling was a bit naff but nVidia sorted that out and then some with their Ampere and Lovelace FE cards.

[@XArtfulX1]

I agree the reference cards weren’t by any means ugly

[@Kenny17674]

They are the best looking GPUs

[@youdontneedtoknowthis177]

The founders edition 2070 super might be my favourite looking card ever

[@widdly-scuds]

Been running a 2080 TI since 2020, bought just before the price hike. And it's still doing just fine today, 4k60 & 120 in some titles, stable VR, even taken me through 4 playthrough of cyberpunk on high with some rtx on. Best card I've owned honestly

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

Bad upgrade in terms of being a direct successor to the 1080 Ti, but an absolutely solid choice these days if you can get it super cheap. It gets outclassed by the higher tier 30xx and 40xx cards in RTX performance and features obviously but it's pretty decent in terms of raster performance. I've been seeing these go for very cheap used. Might not be a bad choice to buy if you can find em for bout 350

[@igreshi]

I got one for about 370$ and it's super solid. There are better choices thougu

[@i_forgor_whar]

350 is a bit too much, especially when for $50 more, you get way better performance with a 6800 XT or a 3080

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

​@@i_forgor_whar Alright, how bout just two fiddy?

[@TheBeastsHere]

Literally just bought one from ebay for £275 for buy it now since I needed a gpu, but I lost to an auction just before for about £230 so for price to performance these cards are about 2nd on the list behind the 5700xt which is what I replaced it with since I built a new (budget 1440p system).

[@TheBcoolGuy]

i need about tree fiddy

[@palikusnir]

I've voted in your poll to make video about old gpu vs new games and here is my rtx 2080ti I bought year ago.. Thank you :))

[@Jusu]

Wait i bought my 2060 super like half a decade ago? Feels like it was just a day ago.

[@Bloodred16ro]

I bought a 2080 Ti when it came out and it ended up being one of my best graphics card purchasing decisions, I was running 2 1080s in SLI at the time and SLI was clearly on its way out. While the entire internet was all a cry and wail over the (un)availability and absolutely insane prices of Ampere a few years later, I was still sitting comfortably with my 2080 Ti without a care in the world. DLSS helped a lot with my 4k monitor and I easily weathered the scalper storm with this card. I imagine if I had chosen not to buy it and stuck with 1080 SLI all the way to the end of the pricing insanity that lasted years I would've hated my life, what with SLI support being effectively non-existent at that point in demanding games.

[@sahara8771]

6:56 Helldivers 2 has neither DLSS nor FSR, it just has oldschool dumb upscaling.

[@Waldherz]

Its upscaling is sort of based on FSR1 and straight up called FSR in the games files. But yes, this channel has now claimed twice that HD2 uses DLSS.

[@nsreturn1365]

if you have 60s series or + cards just enable upscaling in settings of adrenalin. Not as good as supported games fsr 2.1 but better than the version the game supports native.

[@a36538]

@@WaldherzTuring also brought a 10% gain in HDR gaming a note seemingly lost on these superficial tech channels. And HD2 has hdr support.

[@100500daniel]

Yep, the devs clearly don't give a shit about performance. It's quite shocking that such a popular game, that is also quite demanding, doesn't support any sort of modern upscaling technique. The average gamer has an RTX 2060 super or so class card and could definitely use upscaling to run this game well enough

[@youraveragejoephoto]

@@a36538when you say “superficial tech channels” I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reviewer regardless of how well established they are mention HDR in their GPU reviews, and I don’t know a single person that actually games in HDR. And for a channel such as this which is very much aimed at the every man, I don’t really believe something relatively niche like HDR is really a point worth mentioning.

[@malygos9301]

That's kind of nuts you could drop to 1080p and at high or uktra probably still run a 1080 ti without upscaling and keep 60. Truly the greatest gen.

[@thewebheadgt]

In my country 2080Ti are being sold at around $220 to $250. Its still a great card for 1440p gaming.

[@youraveragejoephoto]

One of my mates is rocking a 2080ti after picking one up from a friend who upgraded. Sent the video to him so he can see how it’s getting on! Good to see that it’s still holding on at 1440p, considering my mate plays at 1080p it should still be a strong card for that res for many years to come!

[@lewisthegeek4307]

Love your videos and your narrating is spot on! 👍

[@kalembrobert9834]

This has been one of my favorite channels for a few years, your videos just feel more down to earth than many. Keep doing your thing. Good perspective for us regulars.

[@MrGermanletsplayerxD]

I bought an rtx 2080 ti when I first built my pc. It had the Micron memory and almost instantly went kaputt. But the E-bay seller was so nice in trying to fix it and if it was cheaper than the card pay for it. In the end I got my money back and bought myself an rx 6950xt

[@uncookedpanzer6888]

I remember gaming on a 5600G playing games like WarThunder, Mordhau CSGO and TF2 and being the happiest little gamer. This was during the scalpocalypse so buying a GPU was impossible, I only dreamed of getting a 1080 and never got to buying it as I thought a 3050 would be nice. (It most certainly was not)

[@corndog9482]

I paid $280 for my 2080 Ti two years ago. It's been great.

[@listrymcdistri]

A very well articulated ending👍

[@SFearox]

I upgraded from a Evga GTX 1080 ti sc2 gaming to a Evga RTX 2080 ti XC for only 50euros last year. I got around 50-60% more perfomance so i think it was worth it. Paired with a Kraken G12 + Kraken X72 its running under 40C and 2115-2130mhz core, +1000mhz mem (samsung).

[@tourmaline07]

Good choice - those things are absolute monsters when OC , I had an air cooled copy (MSI Gaming X Trio) and got to 2025mhz on the core. The overclock headroom is massive to the extent you could call your card a RTX 2080ti SUPER 😂

[@darthwiizius]

When I add 1000Mhz to the memory on my 2060S it gets a big upgrade, it's Micron but it's the newer stuff than the early 2080tis had. I always wonder if Nvidia down clocking the RTX20 DDR6 chips was because they knew there was an issue or they just wanted to leave some performance on the table to make next gen seem stronger without giving anything extra, call me cynical 'n' all that.

[@ScoutReaper-zn1rz]

Excellent video! I upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti just for Batman Arkham Knight. It was being touted as a 4K card and it lived up to it's reputation at the time. The only thing people didn't like was the price, myself included.

[@windwalker8604]

No way you uploaded this video as I just bought one yesterday as an upgrade from my 1050. The performance is about in between 3070 and 3070ti with more VRAM.

[@789uio6y]

I still don't know why the f Nvidia didn't put more vram on 3060ti, 3070 and 3070ti. It makes 2080ti better than 3070 and 3070ti even though the performance is between 3070 and 3070ti, cause 2080ti hasn't that big vram problems of 3070 and 3070ti, it make 2080ti age better. Also 10gb 3080 is also laughble. 3000 series is vram limited, only 3080 12gb vram and above will stay in the future I think.

[@windwalker8604]

YES I agree, I would have gone with 3080 12 GB if I afforded it, I had to choose between 3060 12GB, 3070, and 3070ti and I eventually went with 2080ti as it popped up in my facebook marketplace for a really good price, the performance is amazing at the cost of some more power of course (250W peak) but I got so much value out of my money for the performance it gives. I even went with the MSI Gaming X trio which is around 7% faster than the base model and I guess with some custom OC I can get it up to 10%. heck it's around the performance of 4060ti 16GB with a 50% of the price.

[@MauricioGMe]

@@windwalker8604Give undervolting a try, a good 2080ti will actually have a peak power of 300W stock like mine (aorus Xtreme) and it goes as high as 380w if i turn the power limit to 120%, but with an undervolt to around 875mV I can get clocks around 1900mhz and power never reaches 300w and in some games it never even goes to 200w, in some cases i have even beat the power efficiency and performance of the 3070ti stock.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@789uio6yPlanned obselescence maybe.

[@Cbankrupt]

@@windwalker8604 this here, is why this card still holds up. Cheap and used and still beats or matches current mid to low end cards.

[@gottahavitvt]

I just picked up a like new EVGA 2080 ti xc today for $200, i've had several 1080 TIs but this is my first 2080 ti

[@rangersmith4652]

I already owned a 1080Ti when the 2080Ti launched, and I bought a 2080Ti the moment I found one at a somewhat decent price. I had learned through experience that an uplift of roughly 35-40% produced the kind of obvious increase I wanted, and reviews showed the 2080Ti providing that over the 1080Ti. I had no interest then in ray tracing or upscaling, and I still don't. I still have both cards, and neither has ever traced a ray or had its pixels magically multiplied.

[@zriley7995]

im getting 1930~ish mhz at 230w, pretty happy with the performance

[@NOLAgenX]

I held onto running my 2080Ti in combo with 9900k for a long time. What a grand card! I liken it almost as good as the old 1080Ti. It was only this year that the first game in your video convinced me to upgrade the GPU. Yep, my card was working so hard to provide the visual quality I demand that the fans were going full bore, despite my well-planned fan curve. So Two months ago I replaced it with a 4070Ti Super. Overkill to be sure, but I plan on keeping it a good long while as well.

[@RegalPixelKing]

I'd say that the 20 series at launch MSRP was a total ripoff. But now in 2024 if you find a good price for it used it ironically gained value with each passing year in gaming because of DLSS. DLSS went from a bit of a mess in 1.0 to amazing visuals with no real noticeable loss in quality after 2.0 onwards launched with free 20% or more FPS.

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

Completly disagree - 2080TI was better deal at MSRP at launch than 3070 it was compared so much to

[@kaydenmadency6448]

@@rotmistrzjanm8776what

[@evan-du3vk]

For me was good deal I playing it for 6 years already. Waiting for next Gen card so maybe will be time to move on

[@ij6708]

​@@rotmistrzjanm8776 What are you smoking? the 2080ti was launched at $1200, barely an upgrade over the 1080ti promising RTX which was in zero games for a while and DLSS which looked like blurry mess. Whoever bought that card at launch was either ignorant or an idiot

[@rotmistrzjanm8776]

@@ij6708 it had MSRP of 1000$. It was 30% faster than 1080ti. Plus if your target was 1440p ultra basically 2024 is the year when you need to go down to high. Now consider this - card is 5yo. That means if you are not accepting lowering down graphics quality it means it cost you 200$ per year. Well on same settings same performance but less vram 3070 lasted you 2 years so 250$ based on MSRP so that not only means that at the end of the day 3070 cost you more - you could get 2080ti 2years earlier and keep it one year longer meaning that it's lifespan was over double the 3070. Not to mention that if you were building high end PC (and you should considering that you are able to afford it to balance such powerfull card) it wasn't that much expencive addition %whise. Good deal doesn't mean cheap. Good deal means good amount of value pulled out of the product. Not to mention RTX tax beeing real. And I mean for real - wasn't the card same proces node? It had significantly greater die size to increase performance and fit those extra AI and RT cores.

[@edragyz8596]

For full transparency, I haven't watched a single second yet. I just wanna bring something up and see if it gets mentioned. We're all semi aware of die scaling and how it relates to cost/yields right? The 2080 Ti is a 754 mm^2 die, literally more than double the size of a 1080 Ti die. Except unlike a Pascal GPU where the majority of the die is Cuda (Integer and FP cores), in a Turing GPU parts of the die are reserved for RT and Tensor cores. This means unless those cores are active, that extra die space is "wasted." That's why it seems like such bad value, because it's BIGGER than a 3090 TI, BIGGER than a 4090, in order to be the first RTX GPU and still outperform the 1080 Ti. Edit: Not to mention the similar TDP. Big die means big power draw, and at double the size the 2080 Ti draws the same power.

[@m8x425]

That's right. Bigger die = Much, much higher cost. Less cuts from the wafer compounded by poorer yields. Nowadays, the same size wafer costs a lot more, while Nvidia is paying through the nose for an N4 wafer. Higher TDP = Beefier PCB and VRM's. TDP and power consumption on the other hand will depend on die size, transistor count, architecture, clock frequencies, and overall how the GPU is being used. Also, the 2080ti consumes anywhere from 20w to 50w more than a 1080ti, despite the TDP figures. And that's why it irritates the shit out of me when a KZbinr says Nvidia made a mistake with the 1080ti, which they all seem to believe. We ended up getting charged $500 more for something that was in development and not readily usable. I would have rather had more CUDA cores and I would have been more than happy to deal with a card that has a higher TDP. The 1080ti was the end of the era of Brute Force through shader cores. The reason Nvidia released the 1080ti was not to counter VEGA, but because their product channel had become backed up. The ideal turn-around from when a card is manufactured to being sold is 6-8 weeks, which at that time cards sales were going beyond that. They were not selling as many Pascal cards as they had projected. At that time there were rumors of a mid-cycle refresh. But then the 2017-2018 Mining boom happened and this turned everything around.

[@BeefLettuceAndPotato]

I used to buy GPUs from either side for whatever I needed depending on the deal that was available at the time.. starting with this generation, I couldn't justify the price hikes and never went back, AMD every time since in personal rigs and those I built for friends/family. I almost bought the 2070 Super... Could have been a whole different timeline, now I'm your most obvious AMD biased subscriber 😂😂😂

[@Brittishpkerz]

I have my RTX MSI 2080ti Lightning Z hooked up with a i5-13600k and this works wonders for everything I play or wanna play.

[@doublevendetta]

"...holding up SIX YEARS later..." Jesus... Thanks for aging me three decades in three words, Iceberg. Thanks SO MUCH for that.

[@dommerdom]

Your channel is great.

[@xaviert7093]

I heard that the Samsung memory was the issue with the cards, is it micron or am I wrong?

[@masterpainter78]

I had that 2080Ti playing Cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p with RT on at good frame rates, not surprised its doing just fine these days with the newer games. Although I am not really impressed by much of the newer games, they need optimization not just in graphics performance but in the most important feature of all, fun.

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

No bad parts, only bad prices. Got my non-ti 2080 early 2019 for $400 and it's still my daily driver. Coming from a 980ti before that, I've been nothing but happy with it.

[@Sadler2010]

I went from a GTX 980 4GB to a 2080 Ti, a great move(and I went from a GTX 465 1GB before the 980). Now I retired the 2080 Ti for a 4070 Ti Super.

[@EhEhEhEINSTEIN]

@@Sadler2010 That is a very savvy path for well over a decade, well done! My 2080 has been moved to my secondary machine since my original post, replaced with a 6950XT. Only because the first gpu I bought after I graduated college and got a real job was a HD6950 2GB and I thought it was funny. Otherwise I'm NVDA all the way.

[@namecannotbeblank8920]

I love the look of the 2080ti. The 1080ti looks good too, but it looks too much like the 980ti and 780ti

[@realDesertLad]

I know this is a stupid question, but what software do you use on the top left to record FPS? I have an Intel Arc A770 that I REALLY want to benchmark for everyone given how new Intel is to the game

[@aIt-girl]

Its called MSI Afterburner 😄

[@timtoomuch]

I went from a 2080ti to 3080ti to now a 4090 and I play 4k 144hrtz I havnt even found a game yet that maxes out the 4090 it's a beast and now 50 series is releasing its kinda crazy cards have come this far since the 2080ti it was a beast

[@aldenkia]

Cyberpunk...

[@XsaviXander]

Cyberpunk will bring that 4090 to its knees. XD That game is super unoptimized.

[@timtoomuch]

@@XsaviXander yes cyberpunk is definitely an exception

[@Pikmin3388]

@@timtoomuchdo you even get triple digits with rt on and no dlss with a 2000$ card? Cyberpunk is a joke

[@timtoomuch]

@@Pikmin3388 absolutely 144hrtz locked most games no dlss

[@wileymanful]

Wait, how are you running DLSS in helldivers 2?

[@IcebergTech]

Typo. I copied and pasted the text boxes. 🤦‍♂️

[@Waldherz]

Why do you put a DLSS Q label on the Helldivers 2 test for the 2080 ti? Helldivers 2 does not support DLSS. Its upscaling is based on FSR1.

[@nickname8422]

I just bought a used FE 2080ti for 200 Euros. but you cant find ALOT in the range of 200-250.FE has just crappy temps, had to change termal paste and pads and undervoltet it, now its an awesome bang for the buck. Runs everything very smooth, have nearly the same setup as your test system, just the tomahawk and gskill ram with same stats. Glorious time to build a new pc, payed like 1200 Euros in total for an insane gaming performance.

[@dabwiso784]

I'm new to PC gaming, probably a few years away from changing my card, but O love these videos for the history especially.

[@Ivan-pr7ku]

The 2080 Ti was definitely less than expected upgrade over 1080 Ti by most metrics: VRAM size, basic pixel and compute throughput, but the more efficient architecture over time proved itself and that's besides AI and RT add-ons in the newer games. Nvidia had to make some performance compromises with Turing, since it was build on a similar manufacturing process with the same transistor destiny as for Pascal, while reserving space for all the new hardware features of the RTX line that were yet to bring tangible benefits. Ampere was much better balanced, but the price hikes tarnished its image for quite a while.

[@tourmaline07]

I think nVidia could have made the card 20% faster if they needed to , and that's why it got bad press being an incremental upgrade over the 1080ti

[@EbonySaints]

The thing was that Ampere was "supposed" to be a return to form in a way with the 3080 priced at $699. It's just that the second crypto boom and the Chinese death cold caused the cards and everything usable to be hiked to high heaven. The fact that everyone decided to just go ahead and pay those inflated prices either from drops or from scalpers along with the current AI boom have convinced Nvidia that normal prices were a dumb move and that we will never have decent prices for GPUs for the foreseeable future.

[@morpheus_9]

@@tourmaline07in this video its like 35-60% faster than the 1080 Ti

[@arenzricodexd4409]

​@@morpheus_9depend on the game. Turing is proper DX12 card so it can take advantage things like async compute. 2060 for example about on par with 1080. But in game like doom 2016 that use async compute quite heavily 2060 easily come out ahead.

[@yasu_red]

I think the manufacturing quirks you mentioned are the reason every Turing GPU die seems abnormally large compared to other generations. TU106 as found in the 2060 - 2070 is substantially larger than AD103 as found in the 4080 Super.

[@skorpysk]

idk whatsup with your 1080ti mate but mine has been running avg of 70fps on max settings in helldivers, without fsr and when streaming using nvenc, it's never gone below 62

[@JAP917]

I jumped from a 980 Ti to the 2080 Ti FE, usually upgrading every other generation. The 2080Ti still serves me very well in my backup gaming rig on 1440p, and overclocks fairly well with a bios reflash to boost the wattage.

[@MaxtronZero]

got a 2080ti with broken fans, i 3d printed a new fan shroud for 2x140mm fans, replaced all the thermalpaste and pads, undervolted it to .85v and have it peak out at 1850 Mhz. It runs silent and never gets hot.

[@AZI3623]

Rtx 2080 ti Founders Edition was the best GPU design till date

[@darthwiizius]

Yeah, aesthetically clean as a whistle. Those ARC founders 770 cards I think it is look good too.

[@Pokey_Turtle]

Pre ordered the rtx 2080ti lol😅mine died in a day. Replacement still work though 👍Nvdia took a week of troubleshooting just to let me get a replacement.

[@Kryptic1046]

I picked up one of these for $590 the day after the 30 series was announced right before the mining craze and it's still chugging along in my media PC in my living room. While it's mostly just a media playback GPU for me at this point, I do play the latest Forza on it quite a bit and it does a great job with it at a custom res of 3360x1890 at high settings. These days I probably wouldn't pay more than ~$280 for one of these as you can get a 6700XT new for $300 which has about the same level of performance, 1GB extra of VRAM and a warranty.

[@EbonySaints]

Smart man. I was thinking about picking up another 2080S or getting a Radeon VII for kicks around that time too. Hindsight and all that.

[@MauricioGMe]

got a RTX 2080 ti Aorus xtreme for 250 usd about 9 months ago and it's been great upgrade from my old 2070. For the money I can't complain at all, it can undervolt to like 875mV and run the same clocks you see on this video but with 50w to 100w less power consumption and about 10°C less, amazing gpu!

[@MauricioGMe]

Also my model has Samsung memory and can oc like crazy.

[@TruthDoesNotExist]

I had a 1080 ti in my rig for blender and stable diffusion and upgraded to a 2080 ti and it's the best decision I ever made. stable diffusion went from taking 11 minutes to render and image down to 30 seconds. and blender went from 4 minutes on a complex frame down to 35 seconds. that's 7x faster in blender and 20x faster in stable diffusion. in llama 3 I got 80 tokens per second compared to 49, not a huge increase but still worth it for my workflow. those RT and tensor cores really make a huge difference

[@coreyweaver1129]

I'm currently using the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming and its an absolute beast of a card. I want to upgrade but just having a hard time finding a reason to give up this card.

[@Order..66]

What music do you use for your videos? I really like it.

[@IcebergTech]

Intro is Unicorn Heads - 808 Doorbell Chime, the rest is in the description ☝

[@Order..66]

@@IcebergTech thank you. The amount of time and effort you put into your videos is incredible.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😮

[@NKN27.]

I usually never make any comments on any videos. But man, your videos are amazing! Keep up the good work my bro!👍

[@DBZash_FR]

Maybe using XeSS instead of FSR would have been relevant in some titles for the 1080 ti or am I mistaken ?

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

For the Avatar benchmark, as an Unreal Engine developer myself - yes, ultra quality IS an option and is exposed in the DLSS SDK, but it's just a placeholder and I guess never got removed when DLAA got an actual name

[@ABaumstumpf]

it has been in the DLSS API for a looong time already.

[@JimmiG84]

It runs at native resolution and only uses DLSS for anti-aliasing. I think it's a better name, because DLAA could either mean Deep Learning Anti Aliasing or Directionally Localized Anti-Aliasing.

[@oppa793]

got mine just recently for 300 euros, and while I had to replace the thermal paste because it was basically entirely gone, i'm pretty happy with it. i only really intend for it to be a temporary solution though, while saving up and waiting for rdna 4/ battlemage

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

The 2080Ti holding up in today's games is an example of hardware with features way ahead of it's time. Of course, the 2080Ti was the better buy, 6 years later, but hindsight is 20/20, and Nvidia's execution of DLSS and RT was near flawless. People who bought into the $1000 card for something that they wouldn't find useful for the next 3-4 years must've felt pretty bad. Heck, even the 3070 barely outcompetes the 2080Ti except in scenarios where VRAM is insufficient.

[@evan-du3vk]

How you don't find use for it?? . It was still the fastest card those days. Especially when you have 3440x1440 monitor and at last 100 hz. And not ever person is buying new card with every generation

[@SKHYJINX]

Snagged one from a mate and with some tweaks its extra rock solid... I already had a Kraken AIO adapter and 240mm AIO,...2080Ti does scale up well with clockspeed if you add a 350-370w vbios to tap into, sitting at 4K and im still not power limited with 2100Mhz coreclock at 1.0v (+135Mhz and Undervolted) i can push it to 2205Mhz fo quick OC in synthetic tests but for games at 1440p-4K itll hold 2100-2115Mhz almost all day. Mine is also a Micron VRAM based 2080Ti (+600Mhz VRAM MAX) and has been rock solid for at least 4 years...

[@itsyaboikirbo]

how are the memory temps? if i remember correctly there isnt direct cooling on the mem chips with the nzxt adapters

[@SKHYJINX]

@@itsyaboikirbo I added a fan on the underside providing basic airflow, and my VRAM is Micron not Samsung so I can only squeeze +600 vram not the 800-1000+ Samsung VRAM chips get to.. But yeah I've added airflow to my underside ram chips, never had any issues in 4 years of using it this way 👍

[@GewelReal]

If only Nvidia didn't use god awful GDDR6 chips that made Turing gen die out right now

[@oneanother1]

It was only early micron, year later they replaced them with samsung. What's interesting is that you can swap out the chips for 2gb modules, double the vram. Works on 3070 too. Why? Because stable diffusion like more vram. Good thing is that Turing GPUs are so cheap now, better power efficiency than 3000 rtx, nvlink too, good for SD stuff.

[@justhitreset858]

Wait..how did you get DLSS in Helldivers 2? I thought it only used FSR 1.0 or a proprietary one that looks about the same as NIS or FSR 1.0?

[@gibbalite6004]

Please do a video on the rtx 2080! it is a forgotten card, and you can get it quite cheap on the markeplace

[@pandabee8216]

You were struggling on helldivers with the ship😭

[@mtgn59]

So I actually own one of these, (woulda watched the video regardless bc I’m just loving the content), but I kinda got screwed on the price. I bought off a friend for 600 at the end of 2022, but it was also a brand new card that hadn’t even been plugged in yet, and I honestly have had no problems with it. I upgraded from an RX 580 that I gave to my buddy so he could play some games, and honestly it’s been a blast. No issues in any games I’ve played, and I have a 1440p 165hz monitor and all my games look amazing. Only issue I have with it is where do I upgrade to next? I was thinking a used 3080 ti or 4070 when they come farther down on their used price, but overall I’m happy with my purchase, even if I coulda saved a couple hundred by waiting a few months. Great video btw!

[@marknewellmusic]

Just to make you feel better... you really didn't get screwed on price - those of us buying RTX 3060 for £600 got screwed on price 0.o

[@younousyoutoube]

Pascal and Polaris were such a blessed gen, still have my RX 480 and my friend his GTX 1060. Great times, great prices.

[@darthwiizius]

I went from Haswell (GTX770) to a 1060 6GB, to say there was a jump in performance and a cut in my electricity bill is no exaggeration. Games literally went from looking dated to modern in an instant, and ran at higher FPS and resolution, detail etc. I bought the card because at the time the first crypto boom was mostly affecting AMD prices, the 1060 was almost half the price of an RX580.

[@toxxie2810]

I bought a 2080ti when it was new and it was a great card. When I built my daughter's computer I passed it down to her and she is still using it. Very few issues with any of the games she throws at it. There was a short period where she couldn't play Fortnite.. I'm not sure if it was resolved by a game update or graphics drivers.

[@Sadler2010]

I just got an RTX 4070 TI Super (Zotac Amp Holo, I was considering a 30 series Holo and then Zotac did the smart thing and dropped this one) to upgrade from my 2080 Ti which served me well as a used card after a repaste and new thermal pads...

[@donotatme]

Currently still on a 2080Ti because I haven't had a great deal on the newer flagship cards yet, I didn't know early ones had VRAM issues! That explains some issues I am having, like infrequent weird glitching only in my webbrowser or sometimes even turning my entire monitor into a slideshow. It is the Palit Dual version with the garbage cooler and I thought the previous owner cooked it since it ran super hot, I got it super cheap so I don't mind the issues. 99% of the time it runs flawless anyway and I replaced the crappy fans and shroud with some decent 120mm fans and now the temps are even in check. Seeing these results, I should start to look for some newer cards!

[@Sadler2010]

Reapply fresh thermal paste and new thermal pads, watch some videos here or find a friend that has done this to a graphics card. Alternatively check around to see how much a local shop will charge to do it. My card had issues when I bought it used for around $450 US a few years ago and after doing this it has been just fine. if you or a friend do it be sure to get a quality thermal paste and an assortment of thermal pads, die cut squares, sheets in 1mm, 1.5mm and 2.0mm will cover most any cards out there.

[@QuantumFantasy]

I know everyone loves DLSS, but the fact that AMD is doing the heavy lifting to keep Nvidia's old cards relevant is just insane.

[@rmgaminguk7079]

Great video, love these comparisons. Its especially nice when you're reviewing my own GPU. When I was upgrading from a gtx 1080 I was dithering between the 2080TI, 3070 & RX 6700 XT and when a very reasonably price 2080TI came up on Facebook Marketplace it won. I only play at 1440p with Medium to High settings so I should get many years with the 2080Ti.

[@nguyehung8290]

how the hell are your videos so high quality?

[@kimib0g]

upgrading to this from rx 560 can't wait!

[@Eric-ct2ri]

1200$ 999$ was the suposed aib price but we all know they wanted the same 1200$ nvidia founder price or more.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Yeah at least in my territory they were all 1200 or more. That seemed like a lot at the time. I got the 2070 at the time. It was a fair bit more expensive than I had paid for the 1070 a few years earlier.

[@matthewhanson498]

I bought a reference 2070super and I have to say quite impressed with those. For 1080p gaming you wouldn’t need much more. My 3090 gets the same fps..just at 4k and twice the ray tracing. Still very impressed

[@emircosic7860]

sold my evga black series 2080ti the other day. what an amazing card honestly.

[@gtx1650max-q]

9:28 you weren't able to tell difference at 1440p. At 1080p tho, it looks terrible with disocclusion and ghosting. Even worse than many other games with FSR

[@Granox]

Banger music

[@Fadingfool]

Only just upgraded from the 1080Ti - lately having to dial down the settings at 1440p was the main reason. Pretty sure with better driver optimisation it could still shine but obviously not in NVidia 's interest. Got a cashback deal on the 7800XT as a replacement (still not overly bothered about ray tracing though the 7800XT is fine outside of pathtracing).

[@bryanwages3518]

Modders have managed to get resizable bar enabled for rtx 2000 and gtx 1660 cards. But it's pretty complicated to get it to run.

[@hrayz]

When the RT tests come out, please compare First Gen RTX to First Gen RT Radeon. 2080ti vs some Radeon 6000s. How do they actually compare?

[@grigori9061]

I upgrade from like a 750 to a 2080 TI in 2019 for $1150 because it was on sale, was cheaper, and benchmarked better than the original card I wanted at the time, I think it was a titan. So I think I got away with a pretty good upgrade considering the price hike afterwars

[@keerthan7558]

With the on going increase in npus in newer cpus , some like apple M chips with machine learning , media engines etc I wonder if the games can take advantage of these tech to improve frame generation and ray tracing since it also requires deep learning , ai stuff that npus are efficient at handling.

[@BuzzBazzJ]

Thank you. I got a second hand STRiX 2080Ti last summer, and while the previous owner stated some electrical gremlins, the price of about 350$ was acceptable. At least I can now feel a little better about my purchase and hope it lasts a while before I need to go for something newer. I just wish for a properly priced 5000 series, making the used market take a dump. If I can get a equivalent xx70/xx80 card with more than 11GB of VRAM I might just give away my 2080ti to make it right.

[@油壽司]

You know it's bad when the sells number were so low. that the average price for the 20 series Founder edition cards on flea market are now way more expensive than 30 series FE now days

[@blanketmobbypants]

I come to learn but more importantly hear that theme song. It’s so smooth

[@nicktayloriv310]

I bought an open box FE (nothing wrong with it) when it was about a year or so old. Still have it. I don't run it but I still have it.

[@nateo200]

Jealous lol. I have a 3060Ti but I sorta wish I grabbed a used 2080Ti FE or a 2080 Super FE. Love the design of the 20 series

[@nicktayloriv310]

@@nateo200 at the time I wasn't as PC parts savvy as I am now, a friend of mine that is a Gamer egged me on to buy it. That's what friends are for! 👱🏻‍♂👲🏽

[@m37zg3rch3n]

Still happy with my 2080ti playing 1440p. Waiting at least for rtx 5000 before thinking about an Upgrade

[@stratuvarious8547]

If there had been any ray tracing supporting games at launch, maybe this would have been better received. But, if you think about how big a jump over the 1080 Ti was over the 980 Ti, it's not surprising the jump to the 2080 Ti wasn't as big. The 1080 Ti was a 60% performance increase over the 980 Ti, if it'd had just been 50%, then the performance of the 2080 Ti would have been a 40% uplift instead of 30%, which would have been more palatable.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

The value proposition of the 2080Ti came through much later down the years with more demanding rendering techniques and success/evolution of DLSS !!

[@Castaa]

Last summer I bought a used 2080 Ti. Surprisingly, the 2080 Ti had the highest used price to performance at the ~$300 price point at the time. (Not taking into account its power usage cost.) I had been using AMD GPUs for almost 10 years before that.

[@aku2dimensional]

I thought the title said, "How To (Not) Fix an RTX 2080 Ti" and was about to go into detail on how I tried to fix the fan for my GTX 1070 but found out that it wasn't repairable and broke it in the process. Anyway, the 1070 and 1080 are still pretty good and might even have similar performance to most 20-series and entry-level 30-series cards.

[@lflyr6287]

Iceberg Tech : I have them both and there is a much much smaller difference between them compared to what you're showing here. Both thoroughly tested on my Ryzen 7 5800 X3D....and the RTX 2000 series is a Pascal refresh with around 10 % more CUDA cores, lower clocks, higher PWR consumption and exactly the same memory mappings, exactly the same GPU frequency algorithms, exactly the same memory configuration, exactly the same memory quantities per TIER and exactly the same utilisation acting in games. But the biggest problems of the RTX 2000 Pascal refresh series are countles BSOD-s, 1350 MHz GPU core bug lock and artifacting and dying GDDR6 memory.

[@m8x425]

That's true, and TSMC's 12nm process was a refresh of the 16nm process used for Pascal. The 2080ti was a beefed up 1080ti, with the addition of R/T cores and Tensor cores made the die HUGE. Hence, the high AF price. Also, it was at the very last minute that Jensen decided to sell the 2080ti FE for $1200. He was originally going to price it at $1000.

[@quadraga2808]

Just bought Aorus 2080Ti and turns out it has Micron chips.. It still has warranty seal on it, what should I do now? Resell it or keep it?

[@jayb2705]

I had both. The issue with the 2080Ti was the slight performance increase but with a giant price increase. We were paying for being the first adopters of RT, and with the card having no answer from AMD and coming off a bitcoin mining boom that saw people pay silly prices for cards, Nvidia could charge what they wanted.

[@nolimitza.j5063]

"starfield is unplayabe at 25 fps?" is that some rich joke im too peasant to understand

[@voteDC]

I'm not sure if this should have been part of the Vs the current year series. I mean is there any real doubt in anyone's mind that a RTX 2080Ti is going to be able to play all the latest games at decent frame rates at 1080p and 1440p. The video content should have stuck with the title "How (Not) To Follow a Classic" but even that ends up being somewhat untrue as the 2080Ti is a clear upgrade.

[@ed1659]

14:15 it was bad value not because dlss, but because it had 30% performance uplift for a 40% increased cost

[@GeneralS1mba]

Dlss was also much newer and thus worse.

[@karelkrejci2244]

idk if that´s interesting but maybe you could do another comparison like this but with the GTX 980 ti to the GTX 1080 ti