How (not) to follow a classic | RTX 2080 Ti

[@kawanbastos7852]

I got the 2080 ti super cheap after having a gtx 1060 6gb, it was a massive upgrade and i am super happy with it

[@Rebe-Caufman]

😂

[@ThePeca1988]

Of course, but i can assure you, you would have a massive upgrade with pretty much everything else too 😀

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

Why are you guys gatekeeping upgrades?

[@mitchjames9350]

If you got it cheap

[@DengueBurger]

Yeah it’s about twice the price of the 1080ti for twice the performance it seems

[@UltraVegito-1995]

*This 👉RTX👈 is what causes Nvidia to start becoming Ngreedia*

[@Tan-wc7mh]

👉RTX👈

[@AnonymousAnonymous-zp6lu]

👉RTX👈

[@spectex304]

Real

[@FalseOracle617]

1000000000000%

[@RawfunRahman]

yall gamers dont realize how the RTX cards revolutionized 3d CG and Machine Learning and never will. All you know about being a developer is clicking "make game button", "make optimized game button" "make realistic graphics button" brainrotter dumbfricks

[@Hyper.773]

Despite what everyone's said about the reference 20 series cards looking trash, I really like the look of them. They're probably my favorite reference model designs out of anything else. Unfortunately, that's about all the positives the 20 series has

[@suchirghuwalewala]

IKR... The 20 series looks so awesome and so clean

[@tourmaline07]

Those reference cards are absolute art - pity the cooling was a bit naff but nVidia sorted that out and then some with their Ampere and Lovelace FE cards.

[@xartfulx9735]

I agree the reference cards weren’t by any means ugly

[@Lemmiou]

Even this isnt great. My rtx 2080 ti founders edition sucked when it came to thermals. It was overheating with pratically no dust and new thermal paste. Looked cool tho i agree.

[@Kenny17674]

They are the best looking GPUs

[@yourneighbourhooddoomer]

I upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a RTX 2080 Ti back when Turing launched and right before prices on even used GPUs skyrocketed. Can't complain honestly, RDR2, CP2077 all run fine with high settings, FSR/DLSS either balanced or quality, with ultra performance I can even run Cyberpunk with RT lighting and reflections while having 60-80 fps. Hopefully the card will survive until the PC release of GTA 6, won't upgrade until then since there hasn't been a new release yet that got me interested.

[@koreannom]

Mine sort of started dying after 3 years so I had to buy a 4060 ti on short notice :c Was the best thing I could afford at the time (wanted to avoid AMD since I was still concerned with drivers at the time since an RX 580 almost made me fail an exam due to glitching out graphically in the middle of it).

[@suchirghuwalewala]

​@@koreannom That is one of the best reasons someone has had i have heard to not buy AMD 😂 Almost failing an exam due to a gpu ? Thats new

[@koreannom]

@@suchirghuwalewala Yeah, was worth 50% of the grade too. GPU almost cost me my Grade Point Average and $1.5k in course fees.

[@worldwar208]

Rdna 4 might be actually exciting if it's got 7900xt to 7900xtx performance for 500$

[@expert8665]

We need to protest for a same day release for gta6 pc version

[@mattforeman4508]

Oddly enough, this is the video I’ve been hoping for. I game in the rear view mirror, so old tech that’s still functional but can be had cheaper than new is my go to. Over the last few months, I moved from RX580 to a 1080Ti and now a 2080Ti. I find the 2080Ti to be a delight to use. I can crank up settings, run some RT and still enjoy over 60FPS. Old reviews crap on the card for its price compared to the 1080Ti, which was truthfully the only thing “wrong” with it (Micron chips aside). I’m glad you identified that, Ice Berg. I’d love to see an MSRP analysis of the 2080Ti’s performance vs the same of the newer gens.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

these youtub er just live of the nvidia hate. They have cultivated a community of people with next to no critical thinking that will just parrot their own opinions.

[@youraveragejoephoto]

@@_qwe_fk_1700while I do believe there are some KZbinrs out there who could possibly be seen this way, I don’t believe it applies here. I’ve watched all of icebergs videos over the last couple of years and only ever found him to be very objective, fair and down to earth. He’s got the same every man’s pc hardware reviewer style as people such as RGIHD and I think a lot of people appreciate that. Especially when so many KZbinrs are very focused on the high end these days.

[@lucyc776]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 Except people aren't saying NVIDIA is bad because their GPUs are trash, they're saying NVIDIA is price hiking their cards for profit which they absolutely are. $2000 for a 4090? A joke. A 4080 Super is $1000-1100 which while still overpriced, a $1000 jump between the 4080 Super and 4090 is insane. If anyone has no critical thinking skills, it's you. You're being contrarian to reasonable opinions and for what? Superiority? A feeling of "not following the crowd"? What a joke. I agree it's bad to follow blindly, but ignoring basic facts to be contrarian? Just sad, really.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@lucyc776 womp womp

[@KonglomeratYT]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 This just in, comparing prices now = hating. "Wow. This tea costs 2x as much as the last tea did. Does it taste 2x as good?" I now hate tea, apparently.

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

Bad upgrade in terms of being a direct successor to the 1080 Ti, but an absolutely solid choice these days if you can get it super cheap. It gets outclassed by the higher tier 30xx and 40xx cards in RTX performance and features obviously but it's pretty decent in terms of raster performance. I've been seeing these go for very cheap used. Might not be a bad choice to buy if you can find em for bout 350

[@igreshi]

I got one for about 370$ and it's super solid. There are better choices thougu

[@i_forgor_whar]

350 is a bit too much, especially when for $50 more, you get way better performance with a 6800 XT or a 3080

[@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams]

​@@i_forgor_whar Alright, how bout just two fiddy?

[@TheBeastsHere]

Literally just bought one from ebay for £275 for buy it now since I needed a gpu, but I lost to an auction just before for about £230 so for price to performance these cards are about 2nd on the list behind the 5700xt which is what I replaced it with since I built a new (budget 1440p system).

[@TheBcoolGuy]

i need about tree fiddy

[@sahara8771]

6:56 Helldivers 2 has neither DLSS nor FSR, it just has oldschool dumb upscaling.

[@Waldherz]

Its upscaling is sort of based on FSR1 and straight up called FSR in the games files. But yes, this channel has now claimed twice that HD2 uses DLSS.

[@nsreturn1365]

if you have 60s series or + cards just enable upscaling in settings of adrenalin. Not as good as supported games fsr 2.1 but better than the version the game supports native.

[@a36538]

@@WaldherzTuring also brought a 10% gain in HDR gaming a note seemingly lost on these superficial tech channels. And HD2 has hdr support.

[@100500daniel]

Yep, the devs clearly don't give a shit about performance. It's quite shocking that such a popular game, that is also quite demanding, doesn't support any sort of modern upscaling technique. The average gamer has an RTX 2060 super or so class card and could definitely use upscaling to run this game well enough

[@youraveragejoephoto]

@@a36538when you say “superficial tech channels” I don’t think I’ve ever seen a reviewer regardless of how well established they are mention HDR in their GPU reviews, and I don’t know a single person that actually games in HDR. And for a channel such as this which is very much aimed at the every man, I don’t really believe something relatively niche like HDR is really a point worth mentioning.

[@Jusu]

Wait i bought my 2060 super like half a decade ago? Feels like it was just a day ago.

[@Bloodred16ro]

I bought a 2080 Ti when it came out and it ended up being one of my best graphics card purchasing decisions, I was running 2 1080s in SLI at the time and SLI was clearly on its way out. While the entire internet was all a cry and wail over the (un)availability and absolutely insane prices of Ampere a few years later, I was still sitting comfortably with my 2080 Ti without a care in the world. DLSS helped a lot with my 4k monitor and I easily weathered the scalper storm with this card. I imagine if I had chosen not to buy it and stuck with 1080 SLI all the way to the end of the pricing insanity that lasted years I would've hated my life, what with SLI support being effectively non-existent at that point in demanding games.

[@edragyz8596]

For full transparency, I haven't watched a single second yet. I just wanna bring something up and see if it gets mentioned. We're all semi aware of die scaling and how it relates to cost/yields right? The 2080 Ti is a 754 mm^2 die, literally more than double the size of a 1080 Ti die. Except unlike a Pascal GPU where the majority of the die is Cuda (Integer and FP cores), in a Turing GPU parts of the die are reserved for RT and Tensor cores. This means unless those cores are active, that extra die space is "wasted." That's why it seems like such bad value, because it's BIGGER than a 3090 TI, BIGGER than a 4090, in order to be the first RTX GPU and still outperform the 1080 Ti. Edit: Not to mention the similar TDP. Big die means big power draw, and at double the size the 2080 Ti draws the same power.

[@m8x425]

That's right. Bigger die = Much, much higher cost. Less cuts from the wafer compounded by poorer yields. Nowadays, the same size wafer costs a lot more, while Nvidia is paying through the nose for an N4 wafer. Higher TDP = Beefier PCB and VRM's. TDP and power consumption on the other hand will depend on die size, transistor count, architecture, clock frequencies, and overall how the GPU is being used. Also, the 2080ti consumes anywhere from 20w to 50w more than a 1080ti, despite the TDP figures. And that's why it irritates the shit out of me when a KZbinr says Nvidia made a mistake with the 1080ti, which they all seem to believe. We ended up getting charged $500 more for something that was in development and not readily usable. I would have rather had more CUDA cores and I would have been more than happy to deal with a card that has a higher TDP. The 1080ti was the end of the era of Brute Force through shader cores. The reason Nvidia released the 1080ti was not to counter VEGA, but because their product channel had become backed up. The ideal turn-around from when a card is manufactured to being sold is 6-8 weeks, which at that time cards sales were going beyond that. They were not selling as many Pascal cards as they had projected. At that time there were rumors of a mid-cycle refresh. But then the 2017-2018 Mining boom happened and this turned everything around.

[@palikusnir]

I've voted in your poll to make video about old gpu vs new games and here is my rtx 2080ti I bought year ago.. Thank you :))

[@fajaradi1223]

Ray tracing Ray tracing Ray tracing Nowhere to be seen

[@ricardombr]

2:28 how about you watch the video though?

[@Eleganttf2]

​@@ricardombrtoo hard for him

[@TheVanillatech]

gimmick gimmick gimmick The more you buy the MOAR U SAVE!

[@gottahavitvt]

I just picked up a like new EVGA 2080 ti xc today for $200, i've had several 1080 TIs but this is my first 2080 ti

[@youraveragejoephoto]

One of my mates is rocking a 2080ti after picking one up from a friend who upgraded. Sent the video to him so he can see how it’s getting on! Good to see that it’s still holding on at 1440p, considering my mate plays at 1080p it should still be a strong card for that res for many years to come!

[@thewebheadgt]

In my country 2080Ti are being sold at around $220 to $250. Its still a great card for 1440p gaming.

[@AZI3623]

Rtx 2080 ti Founders Edition was the best GPU design till date

[@darthwiizius]

Yeah, aesthetically clean as a whistle. Those ARC founders 770 cards I think it is look good too.

[@Pokey_Turtle]

Pre ordered the rtx 2080ti lol😅mine died in a day. Replacement still work though 👍Nvdia took a week of troubleshooting just to let me get a replacement.

[@SFearox]

I upgraded from a Evga GTX 1080 ti sc2 gaming to a Evga RTX 2080 ti XC for only 50euros last year. I got around 50-60% more perfomance so i think it was worth it. Paired with a Kraken G12 + Kraken X72 its running under 40C and 2115-2130mhz core, +1000mhz mem (samsung).

[@tourmaline07]

Good choice - those things are absolute monsters when OC , I had an air cooled copy (MSI Gaming X Trio) and got to 2025mhz on the core. The overclock headroom is massive to the extent you could call your card a RTX 2080ti SUPER 😂

[@darthwiizius]

When I add 1000Mhz to the memory on my 2060S it gets a big upgrade, it's Micron but it's the newer stuff than the early 2080tis had. I always wonder if Nvidia down clocking the RTX20 DDR6 chips was because they knew there was an issue or they just wanted to leave some performance on the table to make next gen seem stronger without giving anything extra, call me cynical 'n' all that.

[@Granox]

Banger music

[@ScoutReaper-zn1rz]

Excellent video! I upgraded from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti just for Batman Arkham Knight. It was being touted as a 4K card and it lived up to it's reputation at the time. The only thing people didn't like was the price, myself included.

[@kalembrobert9834]

This has been one of my favorite channels for a few years, your videos just feel more down to earth than many. Keep doing your thing. Good perspective for us regulars.

[@uncookedpanzer6888]

I remember gaming on a 5600G playing games like WarThunder, Mordhau CSGO and TF2 and being the happiest little gamer. This was during the scalpocalypse so buying a GPU was impossible, I only dreamed of getting a 1080 and never got to buying it as I thought a 3050 would be nice. (It most certainly was not)

[@Kryptic1046]

I picked up one of these for $590 the day after the 30 series was announced right before the mining craze and it's still chugging along in my media PC in my living room. While it's mostly just a media playback GPU for me at this point, I do play the latest Forza on it quite a bit and it does a great job with it at a custom res of 3360x1890 at high settings. These days I probably wouldn't pay more than ~$280 for one of these as you can get a 6700XT new for $300 which has about the same level of performance, 1GB extra of VRAM and a warranty.

[@EbonySaints]

Smart man. I was thinking about picking up another 2080S or getting a Radeon VII for kicks around that time too. Hindsight and all that.

[@windwalker8604]

No way you uploaded this video as I just bought one yesterday as an upgrade from my 1050. The performance is about in between 3070 and 3070ti with more VRAM.

[@789uio6y]

I still don't know why the f Nvidia didn't put more vram on 3060ti, 3070 and 3070ti. It makes 2080ti better than 3070 and 3070ti even though the performance is between 3070 and 3070ti, cause 2080ti hasn't that big vram problems of 3070 and 3070ti, it make 2080ti age better. Also 10gb 3080 is also laughble. 3000 series is vram limited, only 3080 12gb vram and above will stay in the future I think.

[@windwalker8604]

YES I agree, I would have gone with 3080 12 GB if I afforded it, I had to choose between 3060 12GB, 3070, and 3070ti and I eventually went with 2080ti as it popped up in my facebook marketplace for a really good price, the performance is amazing at the cost of some more power of course (250W peak) but I got so much value out of my money for the performance it gives. I even went with the MSI Gaming X trio which is around 7% faster than the base model and I guess with some custom OC I can get it up to 10%. heck it's around the performance of 4060ti 16GB with a 50% of the price.

[@MauricioGMe]

@@windwalker8604Give undervolting a try, a good 2080ti will actually have a peak power of 300W stock like mine (aorus Xtreme) and it goes as high as 380w if i turn the power limit to 120%, but with an undervolt to around 875mV I can get clocks around 1900mhz and power never reaches 300w and in some games it never even goes to 200w, in some cases i have even beat the power efficiency and performance of the 3070ti stock.

[@GeneralS1mba]

​@@789uio6yPlanned obselescence maybe.

[@NOLAgenX]

I held onto running my 2080Ti in combo with 9900k for a long time. What a grand card! I liken it almost as good as the old 1080Ti. It was only this year that the first game in your video convinced me to upgrade the GPU. Yep, my card was working so hard to provide the visual quality I demand that the fans were going full bore, despite my well-planned fan curve. So Two months ago I replaced it with a 4070Ti Super. Overkill to be sure, but I plan on keeping it a good long while as well.

[@listrymcdistri]

A very well articulated ending👍

[@masterpainter78]

I had that 2080Ti playing Cyberpunk 2077 in 1440p with RT on at good frame rates, not surprised its doing just fine these days with the newer games. Although I am not really impressed by much of the newer games, they need optimization not just in graphics performance but in the most important feature of all, fun.

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

The 20 series marked the beginning of the end of sane pricing and as such will never be remembered well by me. My favourite nVidia card is still the GTX 770 4GB, because it had an awesome price and my entry to 4K gaming.

[@fVNzO]

Well the true end of good pricing was the GTX 680, that launched the entire mid range as a high end product marketing scheme both companies eventually went with. That's where the true beginning of the end happened.

[@v5k456jh3]

4K on a 770? Was it 4K tetris or solitaire? xD

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

@@v5k456jh3 i swear people here are making the most delusional comments lol

[@hyperturbotechnomike]

@@v5k456jh3 When the 770 came out in 2013, it was surprisingly good at 4K for a 340 euro card. I remember playing Metro 2033 on it and similar games. The original GTA V ran around ~50fps in 4K (ingleplayer, very high). The last CoD game i ever played was MW2 and it ran too. The 4GB VRAM was a lot back then. Only STALKER lost alpha was a bit stuttery, because it was a pretty unoptimised game, running poorly even on modern systems. The card was obsolete at around 2017, at least for 4K. I passed it down to my sister in law which played in 1080p for a while.

[@mitsuhh]

@@v5k456jh3 I can tell you're a kid :)

[@nolimitza.j5063]

"starfield is unplayabe at 25 fps?" is that some rich joke im too peasant to understand

[@Eric-ct2ri]

1200$ 999$ was the suposed aib price but we all know they wanted the same 1200$ nvidia founder price or more.

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

Yeah at least in my territory they were all 1200 or more. That seemed like a lot at the time. I got the 2070 at the time. It was a fair bit more expensive than I had paid for the 1070 a few years earlier.

[@MauricioGMe]

got a RTX 2080 ti Aorus xtreme for 250 usd about 9 months ago and it's been great upgrade from my old 2070. For the money I can't complain at all, it can undervolt to like 875mV and run the same clocks you see on this video but with 50w to 100w less power consumption and about 10°C less, amazing gpu!

[@MauricioGMe]

Also my model has Samsung memory and can oc like crazy.

[@toxxie2810]

I bought a 2080ti when it was new and it was a great card. When I built my daughter's computer I passed it down to her and she is still using it. Very few issues with any of the games she throws at it. There was a short period where she couldn't play Fortnite.. I'm not sure if it was resolved by a game update or graphics drivers.

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

For the Avatar benchmark, as an Unreal Engine developer myself - yes, ultra quality IS an option and is exposed in the DLSS SDK, but it's just a placeholder and I guess never got removed when DLAA got an actual name

[@ABaumstumpf]

it has been in the DLSS API for a looong time already.

[@JimmiG84]

It runs at native resolution and only uses DLSS for anti-aliasing. I think it's a better name, because DLAA could either mean Deep Learning Anti Aliasing or Directionally Localized Anti-Aliasing.

[@watchout5508]

Whats interesting is how even now in 2024 I still cant think of a single new game that needs rtx to look good...its not the benchmark or standard at all yet...I honestly dont care if my next card has rtx or not...

[@Rooachie]

RTX for me is: Turn it on for 1 minute. Say neat. Turn it off again forever.

[@Khloya69]

Cyberpunk.

[@Khloya69]

@@Rooachieofc the AMD user would say that

[@Khloya69]

It’s because AMD hold the industry back with their weak RT performance, consoles use AMD, and few developers are pc focused.

[@watchout5508]

@FlopFan69 you make a good point, but still. Graphics in games have progressed to the point where the jumps arent as drastic as they used to be. Now with the rise of the indie market, we see more focus on fun and creative gameplay than whats basically been tech demos from the AAA side. Not to mention RDR2 (and likely GTA6) doesnt feature rtx yet still set the standard for what games can and should be.

[@Ivan-pr7ku]

The 2080 Ti was definitely less than expected upgrade over 1080 Ti by most metrics: VRAM size, basic pixel and compute throughput, but the more efficient architecture over time proved itself and that's besides AI and RT add-ons in the newer games. Nvidia had to make some performance compromises with Turing, since it was build on a similar manufacturing process with the same transistor destiny as for Pascal, while reserving space for all the new hardware features of the RTX line that were yet to bring tangible benefits. Ampere was much better balanced, but the price hikes tarnished its image for quite a while.

[@tourmaline07]

I think nVidia could have made the card 20% faster if they needed to , and that's why it got bad press being an incremental upgrade over the 1080ti

[@EbonySaints]

The thing was that Ampere was "supposed" to be a return to form in a way with the 3080 priced at $699. It's just that the second crypto boom and the Chinese death cold caused the cards and everything usable to be hiked to high heaven. The fact that everyone decided to just go ahead and pay those inflated prices either from drops or from scalpers along with the current AI boom have convinced Nvidia that normal prices were a dumb move and that we will never have decent prices for GPUs for the foreseeable future.

[@Dave-dh7rt]

@@tourmaline07in this video its like 35-60% faster than the 1080 Ti

[@arenzricodexd4409]

​@@Dave-dh7rtdepend on the game. Turing is proper DX12 card so it can take advantage things like async compute. 2060 for example about on par with 1080. But in game like doom 2016 that use async compute quite heavily 2060 easily come out ahead.

[@yasu_red]

I think the manufacturing quirks you mentioned are the reason every Turing GPU die seems abnormally large compared to other generations. TU106 as found in the 2060 - 2070 is substantially larger than AD103 as found in the 4080 Super.

[@SpreadTheLoveNotSTDs]

Does anyone else do a small shimmey or dance when they hear the intro music?

[@IcebergTech]

Me

[@aadityasingh6134]

​​@@IcebergTechface reveal wen?

[@MrEditorsSideKick]

@@aadityasingh6134 Yesterday or never.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

😂

[@skorpysk]

idk whatsup with your 1080ti mate but mine has been running avg of 70fps on max settings in helldivers, without fsr and when streaming using nvenc, it's never gone below 62

[@barrylarry_7493]

I have a 2070s which runs all the games I play at reasonably high frame rate and without making compromises in settings on 1080p. I can only imagine the 2080ti would be reasonably better

[@corndog9482]

I paid $280 for my 2080 Ti two years ago. It's been great.

[@tomthomas3499]

Horizon forbidden west is such a beautiful game even without over reliance on RT or upscalers.

[@SKHYJINX]

Snagged one from a mate and with some tweaks its extra rock solid... I already had a Kraken AIO adapter and 240mm AIO,...2080Ti does scale up well with clockspeed if you add a 350-370w vbios to tap into, sitting at 4K and im still not power limited with 2100Mhz coreclock at 1.0v (+135Mhz and Undervolted) i can push it to 2205Mhz fo quick OC in synthetic tests but for games at 1440p-4K itll hold 2100-2115Mhz almost all day. Mine is also a Micron VRAM based 2080Ti (+600Mhz VRAM MAX) and has been rock solid for at least 4 years...

[@itsyaboikirbo]

how are the memory temps? if i remember correctly there isnt direct cooling on the mem chips with the nzxt adapters

[@SKHYJINX]

@@itsyaboikirbo I added a fan on the underside providing basic airflow, and my VRAM is Micron not Samsung so I can only squeeze +600 vram not the 800-1000+ Samsung VRAM chips get to.. But yeah I've added airflow to my underside ram chips, never had any issues in 4 years of using it this way 👍

[@zhayward3190]

Its really sad that devs aren't bothering to optimize for native resolution anymore and using upscaling garbage

[@hasnihossainsami8375]

Game optimization is kinda dead. Games are much bigger and more complex than ever before, so optimising for every possible combination of hardware is getting increasingly difficult, time-consuming, and resource intensive. Though we really should first determine what good optimisation means. A game using console levels of VRAM on PC isn't a sign of bad optimization, for example. Whereas VRAM consumption staying largely unchaged even if settings are reduced from max to lowest is a sign of bad optimization.

[@Rooachie]

Play forbidden west. Best optimized game i played in 10 years

[@Eleganttf2]

You want us to keep brute forcing using traditional method and increases power consumption ? Then go buy a high end card if you don't want to use upscaling lol

[@Nucleosynthese]

The newer DLSS versions are actually pretty impressive to be fair.

[@deroger612]

@@Nucleosynthesehe never said its garbage but if you cant play a game properly on good hardware without upscaling thats no good sign at least for me

[@voteDC]

I'm not sure if this should have been part of the Vs the current year series. I mean is there any real doubt in anyone's mind that a RTX 2080Ti is going to be able to play all the latest games at decent frame rates at 1080p and 1440p. The video content should have stuck with the title "How (Not) To Follow a Classic" but even that ends up being somewhat untrue as the 2080Ti is a clear upgrade.

[@kimib0g]

upgrading to this from rx 560 can't wait!

[@Castaa]

Last summer I bought a used 2080 Ti. Surprisingly, the 2080 Ti had the highest used price to performance at the ~$300 price point at the time. (Not taking into account its power usage cost.) I had been using AMD GPUs for almost 10 years before that.

[@svd901]

To my recollection the 999 MSRP was a lie. I have never seen a 2080ti selling for lower than 1200 during its entire lifespan.

[@Eric-ct2ri]

yeah it was the aib price basically with 1200$ being founder price. seems nvidia's 2 tier pricing is making reviewers forget the prices. also it wasnt a lie its just that aibs wanted the same price or more than nvidia so they probly made a couple models with low supply for the 999$ price and the rest were all at higher prices.

[@Waldherz]

I paid 1058€ for my FE including taxes (pre-order). So I guess thats the closest this card has ever gotten to that price during its life time.

[@xaviert7093]

I heard that the Samsung memory was the issue with the cards, is it micron or am I wrong?

[@anasevi9456]

the 1080ti is such a long lived beast. I wish I could have had one back when they were new, but the Nvidia tax in my country even before the 2nd crypto boom was insane.... a trash tier 3rd party 1080 non-Ti with a garbade dual fan cooler cost around $250aud more than a Vega 64 did when the latter launched, and the 1080 ti was over twice the price. So went with Vega and was mostly happy, but by mid 2022, after 5 years; it was getting too long in the tooth for 1440p. If I had a 1080 ti would have probably gotten another 2 years out of it.

[@coreyweaver1129]

I'm currently using the 2080ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming and its an absolute beast of a card. I want to upgrade but just having a hard time finding a reason to give up this card.

[@stratuvarious8547]

If there had been any ray tracing supporting games at launch, maybe this would have been better received. But, if you think about how big a jump over the 1080 Ti was over the 980 Ti, it's not surprising the jump to the 2080 Ti wasn't as big. The 1080 Ti was a 60% performance increase over the 980 Ti, if it'd had just been 50%, then the performance of the 2080 Ti would have been a 40% uplift instead of 30%, which would have been more palatable.

[@matthewhanson498]

I bought a reference 2070super and I have to say quite impressed with those. For 1080p gaming you wouldn’t need much more. My 3090 gets the same fps..just at 4k and twice the ray tracing. Still very impressed

[@lBluePhoenixl]

bought a blower stly one for 200$ on the used market. no regrets upgrading from 1080

[@Turok2]

Is it loud for you too? I have one and sometimes it sounds like a jet.

[@lBluePhoenixl]

@@Turok2it did sound like a jet ngl and it always hovered around 80 degrees which is crazy. I decided to buy an nzxt aio gpu mount and slapped an aio on it and it fixed the issue. I was able to overclock as well, try it

[@dabwiso784]

I'm new to PC gaming, probably a few years away from changing my card, but O love these videos for the history especially.

[@younousyoutoube]

Pascal and Polaris were such a blessed gen, still have my RX 480 and my friend his GTX 1060. Great times, great prices.

[@darthwiizius]

I went from Haswell (GTX770) to a 1060 6GB, to say there was a jump in performance and a cut in my electricity bill is no exaggeration. Games literally went from looking dated to modern in an instant, and ran at higher FPS and resolution, detail etc. I bought the card because at the time the first crypto boom was mostly affecting AMD prices, the 1060 was almost half the price of an RX580.

[@TheDesertLad72]

I know this is a stupid question, but what software do you use on the top left to record FPS? I have an Intel Arc A770 that I REALLY want to benchmark for everyone given how new Intel is to the game

[@AIt-Girl]

Its called MSI Afterburner 😄

[@oppa793]

got mine just recently for 300 euros, and while I had to replace the thermal paste because it was basically entirely gone, i'm pretty happy with it. i only really intend for it to be a temporary solution though, while saving up and waiting for rdna 4/ battlemage

[@CarputingYT]

I have a 2080 ti, building whole new PC, going from i9-9900k and 2080 ti to 14900k or ks and 4090

[@mattirealm]

Turing was a good upgrade, but too expensive when it launched. Nvidia did the super thing a year after release, but not for the 2080 Ti. This card is still pretty damn good for many games today, and has quite low prices on Ebay vs when new.

[@justhitreset858]

Wait..how did you get DLSS in Helldivers 2? I thought it only used FSR 1.0 or a proprietary one that looks about the same as NIS or FSR 1.0?

[@NKN27.]

I usually never make any comments on any videos. But man, your videos are amazing! Keep up the good work my bro!👍

[@Waldherz]

Why do you put a DLSS Q label on the Helldivers 2 test for the 2080 ti? Helldivers 2 does not support DLSS. Its upscaling is based on FSR1.

[@dommerdom]

Your channel is great.

[@sudd3660]

the sneaking thing is that ray tracing is hidden in game engines, and you can not turn it off in settings. rtx cards really has benefits nowadays in many games. i did not had a 2080 ti, i skipped the whole series, i had a 1080ti, and then went for the 3080 12gb instead. you know, back when prices where more than half of what is is today.....

[@lflyr6287]

Iceberg Tech : I have them both and there is a much much smaller difference between them compared to what you're showing here. Both thoroughly tested on my Ryzen 7 5800 X3D....and the RTX 2000 series is a Pascal refresh with around 10 % more CUDA cores, lower clocks, higher PWR consumption and exactly the same memory mappings, exactly the same GPU frequency algorithms, exactly the same memory configuration, exactly the same memory quantities per TIER and exactly the same utilisation acting in games. But the biggest problems of the RTX 2000 Pascal refresh series are countles BSOD-s, 1350 MHz GPU core bug lock and artifacting and dying GDDR6 memory.

[@m8x425]

That's true, and TSMC's 12nm process was a refresh of the 16nm process used for Pascal. The 2080ti was a beefed up 1080ti, with the addition of R/T cores and Tensor cores made the die HUGE. Hence, the high AF price. Also, it was at the very last minute that Jensen decided to sell the 2080ti FE for $1200. He was originally going to price it at $1000.

[@rogerbowen5753]

I have a 2080ti Founders Edition waiting to go in my next build. It will be used with a 1080p monitor and most of the games I want to play are older and wouldn't benefit from anything more than that. I've always failed to see what the obsession with Ultra is, in many videos, High has given better performance with very little graphical difference. Ultra was invented because they had to go one better all the time. As Jeff Goldblum said "You were so obsessed with whether you could, you didn't stop to think if you should!" People lapped up the promotional hype and still are because 4K arrived!

[@theorphanobliterator]

dlss is probably the single best feature to come out recently. these cards did it first

[@hartsickdisciple]

The 2080 Ti is a great GPU, even today. I'm pretty sure most people who bought them near launch are pretty happy with the investment.

[@donotatme]

Currently still on a 2080Ti because I haven't had a great deal on the newer flagship cards yet, I didn't know early ones had VRAM issues! That explains some issues I am having, like infrequent weird glitching only in my webbrowser or sometimes even turning my entire monitor into a slideshow. It is the Palit Dual version with the garbage cooler and I thought the previous owner cooked it since it ran super hot, I got it super cheap so I don't mind the issues. 99% of the time it runs flawless anyway and I replaced the crappy fans and shroud with some decent 120mm fans and now the temps are even in check. Seeing these results, I should start to look for some newer cards!

[@Sadler2010]

Reapply fresh thermal paste and new thermal pads, watch some videos here or find a friend that has done this to a graphics card. Alternatively check around to see how much a local shop will charge to do it. My card had issues when I bought it used for around $450 US a few years ago and after doing this it has been just fine. if you or a friend do it be sure to get a quality thermal paste and an assortment of thermal pads, die cut squares, sheets in 1mm, 1.5mm and 2.0mm will cover most any cards out there.

[@codname125]

Helldivers 2 doesn't support DLSS nor FSR, it uses an internal upscaler

[@gibbalite6004]

Please do a video on the rtx 2080! it is a forgotten card, and you can get it quite cheap on the markeplace

[@Highwayman777]

Golden age of graphics cards IMO

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

The value proposition of the 2080Ti came through much later down the years with more demanding rendering techniques and success/evolution of DLSS !!

[@m37zg3rch3n]

Still happy with my 2080ti playing 1440p. Waiting at least for rtx 5000 before thinking about an Upgrade

[@mtg1022]

2080ti is was such a great gpu almost keeped it for the generation but i ended getting a good deal on the 7900xtx but i mean 2080ti only got better with age as dlss got better and games started to need more vram haaa had a lot of good times with this card

[@qrogueuk]

Oh how Nvidia changed over the years. Back in 1999 I upgraded to GeForce 256DDR and I've purchased many Nvidia GPU, since then (for me and others due to a business). BUT, late 2019 and Jan 2020, I switch my house hold over to RX580 (8GB) and 5700XT. I didn't pay scalpers/miner prices, for those cards, nor I didn't want to, support the Nvidia tax and we are currently happy with rasterization performance (mostly 1080P and some 1440p). Not having RT game play, which can have a big drop in FPS doesn't bother me. Once the cards can run RTX with a good frame rate with out Nvidia tax pricing, I mite switch back. For the release price/real world cost back 2019/2020 for the 2080TI, I've got 2 GPU and can still could buy another new mid-range.

[@LukeTheJoker]

2080ti's biggest issue was the 40+% price hike...

[@derenbong6060]

Once u remove the power limiter, it can be overclocked to 3080 performance

[@rmgaminguk7079]

Great video, love these comparisons. Its especially nice when you're reviewing my own GPU. When I was upgrading from a gtx 1080 I was dithering between the 2080TI, 3070 & RX 6700 XT and when a very reasonably price 2080TI came up on Facebook Marketplace it won. I only play at 1440p with Medium to High settings so I should get many years with the 2080Ti.

[@FoxerBoxr]

I got a 2080 ti for $165, not regretting at all

[@GamingLovesJohn]

4:56 HOLY CRAP 82C? THAT THING IS RUNNING HOOOOOOOOOOOOT. I think a repaste is in order! Edit: Saw the rest of the video... and damn it hovers around 76-84c...

[@IcebergTech]

Some footage is from before the repaste. The old stuff was weird, copper coloured stuff. Might have been margarine.

[@sgdude1337]

If the 2080 Ti was $700 then I think it would have been loved. The problem was that the regular rtx 2080 was $700 which was the same price as the 1080 Ti from 1.5 years earlier. I believe that comparison is more valid. You should be able to spend the same amount each generation and still get a big bump in performance.

[@aamirprincedjearam8817]

Helldivers doesn't have FSR or DLSS

[@ilikestamps2978]

I feel like the 20 series cards are why so many people still have 1080s and 1660s. The 30 series cards were genuinely a huge performance boost for me at least, and I just got a 40 series card and the difference is so substantial with dlss 3.0 is kind of crazy. Problem is now a lot of people have severely underpowered cards and constantly complain about game performance. Like bro a 40 series card is only 500 dollars come on 💀

[@rtl8814au]

500 dollars is a lot of money for some people, I was in the same place a few years ago, but you are right, they have absolutely no rigt to complain Cyberpunk runs bad on their 1060 3GB. I now have a 4090 and I see just how much games are held back by consoles and the majority of people not even having a 30 or amd 6000 series gpu. Steam hardware survey says 3060 is the most popular gpu, that would be awesome if it was true, but no, most people actually still run 10, 16, and more rarely 20 and amd 5000 series cards. It's the same case of people complaining CS2 doesn't run anymore on their core 2 quad, just accept you are too poor to game and find a different hobby, or just play older games, they are better than most modern ones, it's what I did when I was poor.

[@ilikestamps2978]

@mikhail.borbak-ool I mean yeah 500 is a lot don't get me wrong, but assuming they're spending money on triple a games, if they just, you know, don't buy those for awhile they would have enough money lol. That's what I did and it only took half a year to save up for a new card

[@GewelReal]

If only Nvidia didn't use god awful GDDR6 chips that made Turing gen die out right now

[@oneanother1]

It was only early micron, year later they replaced them with samsung. What's interesting is that you can swap out the chips for 2gb modules, double the vram. Works on 3070 too. Why? Because stable diffusion like more vram. Good thing is that Turing GPUs are so cheap now, better power efficiency than 3000 rtx, nvlink too, good for SD stuff.

[@JamaicanMeCrazy980]

I went from a Strix OC 2080 to a Strix OC 3090 and with some voltage control it's a massive bump and I never run into VRAM issues anymore nor does it run 400W+ and 75C 😅. 2080 was great kit for a while (big upgrade from a 1070) but VRAM/bandwidth on the 40 Series was a ripoff so I nabbed a used 3090 for about 1/3 of it's launch and it's been solid since. I'll skip to 40s and see what the 50s bring For the money

[@blakedmc1989RaveHD]

as i am a 1080Ti owner i would only consider a RTX 2080Ti as a spare

[@dark_taco]

My favourite pc videos 😭👏🏿 love your content brother

[@darthpotwet2668]

I think ultra quality is just dlaa, back in January the finals had a similar option that was just replaced by dlaa now

[@Coralalal]

In my opinion, the 2080ti is my favorite card for looks

[@TheOneAndOnlyJebediahKerman]

2080 Ti SLI is not bad for simulations, especially if you can get 2 for under $600.

[@wiesel222]

Still running a Asus Strix 2080ti, a bit power hungry but a very strong card for 1440p

[@nicktayloriv310]

I bought an open box FE (nothing wrong with it) when it was about a year or so old. Still have it. I don't run it but I still have it.

[@nateo200]

Jealous lol. I have a 3060Ti but I sorta wish I grabbed a used 2080Ti FE or a 2080 Super FE. Love the design of the 20 series

[@nicktayloriv310]

@@nateo200 at the time I wasn't as PC parts savvy as I am now, a friend of mine that is a Gamer egged me on to buy it. That's what friends are for! 👱🏻‍♂👲🏽

[@Thex-W.I.T.C.H.-xMaster]

I've had a 3090 since 2021, I skipped the 2080Ti because I didn’t see it as a good GPU, the 3090 was worth the... extra price... I paid for what I got and I'm still using it and will for another few years. All my modern games play 4K without much problems and that's good... the 2080Ti wasn't worth the extra cost and the 3090 was in my opinion.

[@PixelShade]

I wish you focused more in "high settings" rather than "ultra" as that setting doesn't make a lot of sense for older cards, or just for games in general. Even though I have a RX6800 I tend to focus on an optimized mix that will yield better performance without any perceptual loss to image quality. This usually results in settings close to the "high preset" not the "ultra" preset.

[@quadraga2808]

Just bought Aorus 2080Ti and turns out it has Micron chips.. It still has warranty seal on it, what should I do now? Resell it or keep it?

[@nathanalbritton3766]

Just picked one up for $100 on FB Marketplace

[@certs743]

I had a GTX 1080 Ti which I was rather fond of. Sadly it died on me. My biggest issue with RTX is that Nvidia had people paying a premium for a feature that didn't live up to the marketing till arguably the 40 series and by then the top cards that could do it are now only available to people who can drop 4K on a handbag or some other luxury good.

[@1NIGHTMAREGAMER]

IDK why it didn't just release with 12 gb vram 1gb would have made a big difference

[@bryanwages3518]

Modders have managed to get resizable bar enabled for rtx 2000 and gtx 1660 cards. But it's pretty complicated to get it to run.

[@batman-rebirth5217]

the 2080 ti is the equivalent of a 3070

[@psylina]

Slightly better, way better oc potential and more vram

[@789uio6y]

It's better, when we talk about vram, it's way better. Nvidia limit almost all 3000 series card with vram. Only 3080 12gb module and beyond are not obsolete.

[@laszlozsurka8991]

2080 Ti is faster than a 3070 when games exceed over 8 GB utilization.

[@psylina]

@@laszlozsurka8991 and can be faster than a oc'd 3070 with the right cooling

[@ConfusionDistortion]

I think if you are shopping on a budget and looking at the older RTX 2000 series, the best picks from that line really are just the 2070 Super, and 2060 Super and KO models that were released in 2020. You can pick up RTX 2060 cards at $150 and below now (still really nice for 1080P), and 2070 Super cards can be picked up below $200 in the United States (even better for fast 1080P and some 1440P still). You are already shopping on a budget anyway, so I would assume you are trying to get something RTX related, but below the $200 range. Past that, you might as well just buy a new RX 6700, RX 7600 XT, or RTX 4060. The extra Vram on the 2080 TI isn't enough to make up for the difference in age on a used card. Its a six year old card, and whatever one you buy, is going to have years of mileage put on it, and eventually its going to be relegated to 1080P gaming anyway just from being old. It simply isn't worth it given the going price is still close to $300 after tax and shipping cost. You may end up paying $300, and have the card die in a year and have no warranty.