How one elder finds out "The Truth" is not the truth.

[@Jramirez793]

I was born into the Jehovah’s Witness and baptized at the age of 14. My eyes began to open after getting baptized and pioneering and asking an elder to come with me to a revisit of a person who gave me literature for me to read in exchange for both the Watchtower and Awake which he agreed to read and talk about it if I returned at a later date. I got reprimanded by the elder for accepting literature that is not from the Watchtower. However at that moment I am thinking why I cannot accept and read about other religions when during the ministry meetings we are told to encourage people to learn about other religions when we go door to door, yet a Jehovah’s Witness is not allowed to. Eventually at the age of 18 I moved out of my parents house and shortly after that I was disfellowshipped for living with who at the time was my girlfriend and later became my wife and mother of my 3 children. My entire family shunned me, and when my father passed away, that’s when they decided to call just to let me know I can go see my father now that he has passed. I promised my family that I will make it my business to let as many people out there know to not entertain the Jehovah Witnesses and stay as far as possible from them

[@feartofreedom2972]

😢I’m really sorry you had to go through this 😢

[@alexshatner3907]

You apostates are part of the son of lawlessness which also includes Women, and by the way you remind me so much of jezebel. A Jezebel-like woman in the congregation of Thyatira claimed to have prophetic powers but followed the course of ancient false prophetesses and received the condemnation of Christ Jesus in his message to John at Revelation 2:20-23. She improperly acted as a teacher and misled members of the congregation into wrong practices. The apostate “man of lawlessness” is also called “the son of destruction.” (2Th 2:3 Some who once served as Jehovah’s Witnesses like you Puss have rejected various Scriptural views based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles. For example you insist that we are not living in the “last days,” despite overwhelming evidence that we are. (2 Timothy 3:1-5) You apostates ‘have gone out from us because they were not of our sort.’ (1 John 2:18, 19) Hence, you no longer have fellowship with loyal anointed witnesses of Jehovah and their companions, and therefore these self-seeking heretics have no “sharing” with the Father and the Son, no matter how much they may boast of having intimacy with God and Christ. Instead, they are in spiritual darkness. (1 John 1:3, 6

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Great purpose for life.

[@rochellejones-thomas6754]

I am sorry that happened to you also. They are really very cruel people because they think anyone outside of the organization doesn’t matter. I have a horrible story regarding my parent’s deaths also.

[@adriana7707]

You were so brave and lucky to get out of that religion at a young age. I can't imagine how hard it is to be shunned. Thankfully, I got out of it before I was baptized. So even though my sister is a JW, we are still very close. Unfortunately, she has been so brainwashed that there is not much I can do. It is in God's hands now.

[@laymanphil8513]

It was thanks to the "elastic" generation that I realized I was in a cult. Thank you Watchtower for helping me wake up.

[@BellatorNyc]

Vevian, you are the worst interviewer ever. You looked like you were bored, your whole persona is off putting.

[@BellatorNyc]

Vevian, you are the worst interviewer ever. You looked like you were bored, your whole persona is off putting.

[@laymanphil8513]

@@BellatorNyc Your comment reflects great jealousy and a lack of self-esteem. I wish you a lot of courage.

[@BellatorNyc]

@@laymanphil8513Thank you

[@MrChinchilla_hn]

Sects sooner or later expose themselves.

[@rebeccacisco9420]

Thank you so much for doing this interview and making it public. My journey started earlier, when the organization told us to throw away all older publications. A bell went off. It seemed so ridiculous that I went and read two bushel boxes of books from very early books up to the present at that time (I have been out for 21 years). It occurred that people would not want you to read their own prior stuff if they had been honest then. Then I started seeing the history of failed prophecies, etc, and the generation changes just really fit right in there with that. As my doubts grew I started reading every cited scripture and double checked it by reading it in context and started putting notes in the margins of my Watchtowers about what those scriptures really meant and that they had nothing to do with how they were being presented. Meanwhile, my husband was waking up and he too had been an elder for many years. He actually left the organization a but before me, but I was scared. But it didn't take me long to realize I couldn't pretend. So within a year of his fading, I also faded. I have never regretted that decision. I read the Bible and realized just how much the organization twists the scriptures to their desires, and their desires change pretty often. But keeping everyone in line and obeying stays. I am grateful to have watched this. My husband passed away 9 years ago, and you remind me so much of him in how you talk and reason. I think my last worry about what JWs think of me, went away just a few months ago when I decided to comment on these channels in my actual name. I am free and freedom feels so good.

[@charlesguinn4316]

I was very surprised, an elder told me to throw out all my Moms old JW books she had collected over the years! "Throw them out, no one will want them..." Wha...? Made no sense to me.

[@beautyRest1]

What an interesting story! I hope you are well and happy!!

[@rickryan2157]

WoW Jack. I remember a hard core young elder you were. Congratulations for waking up 👍

[@feartofreedom2972]

Do we know each other?

[@irlanderillustrations7517]

@@NBodi everyone makes mistakes. quit judging.

[@laymanphil8513]

One of the best interviews I've heard. Thank you Vevian for sharing this amazing trip with Jack. Seeing Jack so fulfilled and enthusiastic after leaving the Watchtower cult should make honest JWs wake up because the more time passes, the more the illusion of the Watchtower will turn into a nightmare. It's time to wake up. The BIG wake up call has sounded for all JWs.

[@vevianvoz]

So glad you enjoyed the interview 🤍

[@kiriwhakaruru8062]

Thank you so,so much for this Interview with Jack it's really, really open my eyes abt the watchtower cult. I know long want be to be In watchtower cult that tells it people that you will NOT have everlast life. And Jack hit nail on button it FEAR fear that you will not get everlasting life if you mess with worldly people. Honestly Jack has open up can of worms. I WANT to get on to that page I'm baptized sister I want my own life to able to BE free and see my grandchildren grow up something that watchtower has lead us to believe that it is wrong.for me nd my worldly family.

[@alexshatner3907]

@@vevianvoz You apostates are part of the son of lawlessness which also includes Women, and by the way you remind me so much of jezebel. A Jezebel-like woman in the congregation of Thyatira claimed to have prophetic powers but followed the course of ancient false prophetesses and received the condemnation of Christ Jesus in his message to John at Revelation 2:20-23. She improperly acted as a teacher and misled members of the congregation into wrong practices. The apostate “man of lawlessness” is also called “the son of destruction.” (2Th 2:3 Some who once served as Jehovah’s Witnesses like you Puss have rejected various Scriptural views based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and his apostles. For example you insist that we are not living in the “last days,” despite overwhelming evidence that we are. (2 Timothy 3:1-5) You apostates ‘have gone out from us because they were not of our sort.’ (1 John 2:18, 19) Hence, you no longer have fellowship with loyal anointed witnesses of Jehovah and their companions, and therefore these self-seeking heretics have no “sharing” with the Father and the Son, no matter how much they may boast of having intimacy with God and Christ. Instead, they are in spiritual darkness. (1 John 1:3, 6

[@sundance8862]

Jack is so positive and enthusiastic. It is obvious he is enjoying freedom and wanting to share his journey with us. Thanks for sharing your microphone with him, Vevian

[@missinterpretation4984]

Wow you just opened my eyes so much. Every personality test I’ve ever taken for work or something shows my top value is truth, honesty, facts. And that’s why I woke up due to the beliefs but when I share those with my family members they can dismiss them and it baffles me. I can totally see it now, they’re valuing social structure, obedience, even just familiarity. I wish I could go back in time but this will help me going forward.

[@BlackFlagHeathen]

“I read Raymond Franz’s books and that’s how I woke up. That’s all it took.” This is why Watchtower flat-out forbids their members from looking at “apostate material.” They know that people aren’t stupid and that if do any research at all into the truth about Jehovah’s Witnesses, 99% of people are going to wake up. Watchtower knows their members aren’t stupid. So they have to make them afraid instead.

[@vevianvoz]

Absolutely 👍🏼

[@Shogunkingwarrior]

Actually seems like a lot of the members are stupid including my sister and her family

[@debkopinsky8438]

I've been listening to many different "waking up" interviews for about 5 years. This is the best, most motivating "interviewee" I've heard. Thank you!

[@vevianvoz]

So glad you enjoyed the interview

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@springlove7219]

@@feartofreedom2972 Jack can you share that page with me, the page you showed your wife ? I believe it was about the blood issue

[@RudisKetabs]

This guy is one of the most intelligent ppl I’ve ever seen. Thanks for sharing your story. Keep up the good work.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you so much

[@angelicab3482]

I loved to hear this interview. It´s so beautiful and wholesome to hear you Jack, fighting to keep your family together, not giving up on your marrige or your wife, but with love, sincerity and honesty - and a lot of patience I imagine - helping her wake up in her own pace and then creating a new social structure where you all thrive. You are fortunate to have each other. You deserve all the happiness in the world.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you so much. It was definitely worth the effort

[@heatherwillson4862]

Loved this interview! Love Jack's enthusiasism & way of thinking! His family is lucky to have him. Good for you, Jack! Enjoy your freedom.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@missinterpretation4984]

2013 overlapping was the straw for me. I had a few sparks before that but exactly as he says I it in the shelf if they know better than me. Such a relatable story.

[@auntlalanyc]

That was the beginning of my exit... Feb 2017

[@moonsong9472]

Wow! What a wonderfully honest and insightful interview Vivian and Jack. Love your spiritual integrity. Well done Vivian and Jack!

[@vevianvoz]

So glad you enjoyed it♥️

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@mrssomuchmore7193]

I very much resonate with the pain/pleasure spectrum. It hurt my heart, mind and soul more to stay in than to get out and risk everyone's disapproval. Which was a really big shift for me...I was raised by a narcissist, so appearances were everything to her and extendedly me. And the org operates within similar parameters. Appearance, reputation, love-bombing or shunning to accomplish/create pressure to achieve goals/agendas. It's all about power, control and money. Leveraging guilt shame and fear. It'll be interesting to see how their end game plays out.

[@unite4peace88]

You are right on point. It's a toxic relationship built on a false sense of self, the self they want you to be, or else. But a lot of people crave guidance, or in others words have a co-dependent personality, this organization suits them just fine, until their on their death bed looking backing wondering what went wrong.

[@evvalynnv7414]

Thank you; I was surprised to hear an elder's fear come onto the stage; my son was reaching out to be an elder when I decided it was time to grow up and serve God freely rather than feel like a lesser person, a female, a single mother, etc. Then, disfellowshipped, shunned, ignored. and when I finally got around to looking for other scriptural info, I too found a Crisis of Conscience and loads of books of other people and other research, cultural bibles, language explanations, I couldn't get enough. I too initially felt fear, heart pounding, sweating, shaking, the whole ball of wax but I wanted truth and understanding and the fear dissolved with prayer. Jack, you sound so free and my son too, after a lifetime of that cult, discovered the hypocrisy and walked away to happiness. The truth will set you free as the good book says and like Vevian love, unconditional love and forgiveness. Not enough words to explain being born again.

[@pauletteforman]

EXCELLENT INTERVIEW ❤️❤️❤️ THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING JACK'S STORY🙏🏾🤲🏽! POWERFUL AND MOVING! TEARS FLOWING!!!! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU ❤️🤗!!!

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 🤎

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you so much 😊

[@rebella5769]

WOW!!!!! I think that's the best interview I've ever watched. Just AMAZING. I enjoyed every second of it. It actually made me want to send this to my JW siblings even though I know better, but who can not wake up if they listened to this interview. Thank you so very much for putting this out there. I sure would love to follow his content. THANK YOU AGAIN.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 🧡

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@melanieoreilly2565]

Thoroughly enjoyed. I could oot agree more. They had a grip on me for decades and I've finally become truly free 13 months ago, and can happily say I will never ook back.

[@K-Fred]

Great interview Vevian. Thank you. Thanks for sharing your journey Jack. You answered a couple of questions I had.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 💖

[@YanSAA23]

I love that he was reading Crisis of the Conscience at meeting, I was reading Fifty Shades of Grey on my iPad 😩😩😩😂😂😂

[@sarahruzz2020]

Hahaha love it!

[@ghostnoterboomboom9119]

This video should win an Emmy!!! Be required viewing by al Ex jdubs!!! Brilliant!!!

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@vevianvoz]

Thank you for watching💖

[@laymanphil8513]

No sane person can believe in this absurd "elastic" generation that puts reason and common sense to shame.

[@feartofreedom2972]

I’m grateful they came up with this “new light” it helped many to question their teachings.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

The overlapping generations was the last straw for me too. I remember thinking "You've got to be kidding me." Not only did it not make sense but it lets 1914 off the hook. They kept the urgency factor that we are living in "the final part of the final part of the last days" but now there is no end in sight in terms of the number of overlapping generations that could transpire in the future. In other words, they bought themselves an endless amount of time. If Armageddon doesn't happen in the next 100 years or beyond the overlapping generations doctrine will still be valid for all eternity. It's very convenient. In saying that, I'm still a believer and feel that God could intervene at any time, things are certainly spiraling down, but the overlapping generations explanation was a major frustration and let down to me.

[@tdomingues89]

we still are waiting for god to help out kids with cancer, but nothing has happened, i guess we need to keep waiting !

[@daniellamcgee4251]

You missed the bit where Jack said 'we live in extraordinary times'. The media is focused on the negative because psychologist focused on consumerism learned that the most effective 'emotional hooks' for viewership are variations on fear and anger. I know there are some significant issues such as climate change, and women's rights going backwards in the U.S.A. , etc., However, there is a more balanced view. In the last 50 years global poverty has decreased significantly, access to clean water, food, education and employment opportunities have increased. Global rates of violence have decreased. Medical understanding and treatments, and preventios have advanced, and are continuing to at a rapid rate. There is greater understanding and acceptance of people living as their authentic selves, particularly so with Gen Z. Due to the banning of hydro-fluro-carbons, the holes in the ozone layer over Australia have 'repaired' . But don't take my word for it. You can look up these facts for yourself. 😊

[@dissidentfairy4264]

@@tdomingues89 I'm sorry if this is a personal reply. I feel for you if it is. I've experienced some devastating losses in my life too. So I've given it a lot of thought and the way I see it is this >>> God apparently has his set time to intervene. No one knows when that will be but there are definite signs that things are spiraling down. If this isn't Sodom and Gomorrah all over again I don't know what is. Time setters have discouraged people and have caused a lot of loss of faith. This is man's failure not God's. His time setting doesn't change. The way I see it God is in a Catch22. He has a set time to make things right but in the interim His hands are tied. If He were to intervene for some and not others it would make him both partial and a liar. The Bible says God cannot lie and that he isn't partial. If He intervened for all then we would be in His kingdom right now. It would mean the righteous and the unrighteous would still coexist. The unrighteous would reap the same reward as the righteous. There would be no distinction between the two because God would have to intervene every time an evil person wanted to do something bad. God has no choice but to allow the evil person to carry out his crime because a person cannot be condemned in a court of law for having an evil thought, only if he acts upon it. He has to commit the crime to condemn himself. By allowing the good to coexist with the bad He is separating the sheep from the goats knowing He will make all things right in the end. He could have made robots but He gave us Free Will. So He has no choice but let it play out the way man orchestrates it. If He intervened for one dying child He'd have to intervene for all or He would be partial. Right now He is allowing the chips to fall where they may. Some will get sick and die, some will be victims of crime. We are all victims and recipients of unforeseen events. We have to be like Job and keep the faith no matter what. I think faith is the key because regardless of what happens in this temporal life God will live up to His promises and make it right in the end because He's Just and He is the Great Equalizer.

[@aliceneely2647]

@@tdomingues89 Jehovah is the one who cause all evil, murdered, bloodshed, BABY RAPE, human sacrifice and all evil on earth.. JEHOVAH IS SATAN, that's the biggest trick ever.

[@compositioncompilation]

Who place THEMSELVES IN THE TEMPLE THOUGH ?

[@denniswoods1444]

What a beautiful interview. I recently left the organization after 40+ years and was wondering what FB group was he mentioning? I'm still trying to get out of my shell, but at 50 it feels really tough. Thanks for all the wonderful interviews.

[@Ed30675]

You can make it...I did..and you will too.... I wish you well... My situation echoes that of Jack except that I lost my wife....But not my children.... Have a great relationship with them..

[@vevianvoz]

It’s called empowered exjw 🤗♥️ it has almost 10k members

[@rockpadstudios]

it gets easier as the time goes buy, I was POMI and then I saw G Jackson at the ARC and that was it

[@joanthompson4559]

This was a wonderful interview. Jack presents himself well. The endearing and enduring patience he showed his wife is what ,I feel, Godly love is. We are all emotional when we wake up to what is really going on. It took us a while to process through it ourselves so we can't expect any one else to change their minds on just our word. Unfortunately, it sometimes takes years. But, he still had his wife and his children. Helping her to find a better group to connect with doesn't happen overnight and consider their children as well. You helped me a great deal. I am an older woman now and alone but I feel closer to God and to Jesus Christ. I even took up study of biblical Hebrew. The silver sword is full of misappropriate translation of both the old and the new testaments. It is joy for me to be able to really study the Bible . Thank you for putting your self out there for us. May you be greatly blessed. 🙏 . Just because I left this organization doesn't mean I will ever leave God nor his only begotten Son Yeshua (Jesus). He's the one who came, was unjustifiably tortured and executed and shed his blood for all of humanity . I never really understood what the gospel of Jesus meant before. I feel like a new baby in an older woman's body. It's difficult getting over feeling lost and relearning how to develop my spiritual relationship. SMH. Shalom

[@dashulamite]

@@joanthompson4559 shalom, Joan. ❤

[@TinyMaths]

Wow; his point about Jdubs equating 'obedience' with salvation, as opposed to equating 'truth' with salvation really hit home. That's basically why I awoke one day terrified by the thought that I might be throwing my life away on something I can't even prove to myself is true. By Jack's argument, a lot of Jdubs will just ignore that thought and stay; because obedience is more important (which is an irony, because, it's called the TRUTH). After I awoke that day, it was a slow downhill. Which had morphed into an avalancheby the time 6 months had passed. I honestly had no idea there was an ex-Jdub community; I didn't find out about that until a few years after I had left, almost 3 years later. The first seeds of it might have been with the Revelation book when I found myself thinking years before, " how on Earth can they know that those prophecies were fulfilled by every single tiny minute detail that they were claiming"; they just seemed like wild claims to me, and that was probably my first ever period of doubt; That, and Jdubs saying things like "Armageddon is just around the corner", several times over the years. I knew I had doubts; and when they really reared their heads, obedience was no longer in the equation. I had to go.

[@danielecolla5767]

great interview!!! What a guy. Very sincere. that is the real truth.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 💝

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 😊

[@mariaturner1316]

I’m only just now feeling brave enough to comment. My child is also transgender. This made me cry we are not alone 🥹❤️

[@tonycutty598]

This is absolutely superb. What a real, honest, genuine man. And Vevian, I love your low-key interview style; you just let your people talk, and yet ask all the right questions at the right times. You have a real talent, lady :)

[@pamelaruth7400]

This was such a meaningful experience to me. I am so grateful to Jack for sharing, and Vevian for giving him the platform! WELL DONE!

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

Hi! I really enjoyed your story! What a blessing you woke up when you did! Your whole family unit would’ve been destroyed! My kids are the way I got out! I was 42 years old when I left! I was a fourth generation born in! My kids woke up really fast and my son started telling me they were hiding sex abuse. I said, no, they don’t do that! They call the police! He’s like, mom, wake up! They call the service department at Bethel and hide it all! I stopped going because I was depressed that both my children had been disfellowshipped. I was feeling down. I always thought I would go back. But, once my mother started shunning me, as well as pretty much anyone I’d ever known, I knew I could never go back. I decided I was going to prove my son wrong, so, I searched google. Before that, I never looked outside for information! I’m so glad I opened my mind to the things my kids were saying. The only down side? I had to tell myself he was right! 😰My best friend was the COBE’s wife, she never once called me or came by! Never! No one ever came to call on me! I live across the street from the Kingdom Hall! The last thing my mother said to me was, that I was going to die with my kids! I told her, well, I’ll be dead then and I won’t know it!Sadly, she shunned me the last 8 years of her life. I wasn’t ever disfellowshipped, I just faded! Thank goodness she was the only family member alive that was a witness! I’ve been out for 10 years as of October of this year! I couldn’t be happier. I started dating and was with my husband for almost 9 years, he was never a witness. When we met and I told him I used to be a JW, my son told him how my mom didn’t talk to me and all their weird beliefs and the only thing he said🤷🏻‍♀️THATS A CULT!!! I’ve just started dating again and I happened to meet an ex JW. He wrote to me and I said something back to him and he said, you used to be a JW! We’ve been out on a few dates and I love his perspective on so many things. It’s definitely great to be alive and living life to the fullest!😃😃😃

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for sharing your story💛

[@symone3113]

Tracy Lea Beauty, welcome to the real life.

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

@@symone3113 thank you! This really is the BEST WAY OF LIFE!!!!!!🌺🌺🌺

[@TracyLeaBeauty]

@@vevianvoz thank you for doing these interviews! I like hearing the stories and differences in how certain people get treated! I always had a hard time making friends since leaving the JW’s. When I left, everyone I knew was JW, even my mother. She died in 2020. My father just died last week. He wasn’t a witness. So, if any of you need a friend, I’m here for you, I know I could use friends! I’m in Southern California, I’m from San Diego. I used to live right up the hill from the stadium. It was really nice to just jet out of there and I was home! Have a great week everyone!!!🌺🌺🌺

[@symone3113]

@@TracyLeaBeauty I’m sorry for your loss. Stay true to you.❤️

[@Alex_Vir]

You probably saved your children from a lot of pain and depending on how their life might have gone, especially since you were more open that they could play with children outside the congregation, your relationship with them. You did good.

[@TheFallingTower]

Great interview. I was hoping that "Jack" would do an interview with someone one day so that some of his insights could finally be out there in the public realm. Thanks for taking care of it! I hope his story helps others to escape and to navigate the murky waters of doing so while being married and/or having children who are still in.

[@feartofreedom2972]

It actually happened. Someone watched it on day one and woke up.

[@trudymajor2614]

Great interview... thank you! I grew up in a congregation in Newmarket, outside of TO. 1973 - 1987, when I moved to BC. Stayed in till 2012. So grateful to be free of this cult!

[@DavidBrown-iy3sy]

Brilliant interview, I have saved it to my "watch later" so I can watch it again and again.

[@leonkardos692]

Loved this video! Thank you for it. Really interesting point came out. I left the organisation not long ago too, its amazing that you only see their love based on policy and not on true love as they say. Glad my eyes opened too. And this video helped. Now i am free and can breath. Lol no more thinking about some ministry hours that you have to accomplish that aint even in the bible but their own stupid exhausted idea! Thanks again

[@augiemusky]

The radio was playing Losing My Religion! Proof that God has a sense of Humor!

[@margaretislas2916]

Wow! Loosing my religion by REM . I actually started to loosing my religion a while ago. My daughters read that book and Recomended to me but I was afraid to read it. It has been through the scriptures that I have been able to remove their mask. I will really love to read this book now. Thanks so much for your very important video. 👍👍👍

[@karenmoody2763]

What is the book , I want to read it

[@ShoNuffSoulBro1]

When I discovered that book about 4 years ago I too was afraid. But I just had to know because things weren’t adding up anymore. I had to hide the book and read it in secret. I was also afraid of being seen buying an occasional lotto ticket or renting an R movie at Redbox. OMG, so much FeaR being a JDub ! I’m over it now thank God. 😆

[@yxzfilestrailrides8511]

Losing my religion is actually mean to lose one’s cool or temper

[@donnyetta]

Very interesting, thank you. Last week I gave the congregation secretary my letter of resignation from the jw religion. My friend will let me know if they announced it at tonight's meeting. I will feel sooooo relieved once they have.

[@donnaschaefer8278]

If they can stop caring about you, they never truly cared.

[@MasterSpade]

Nothing has set Mankind back more than belief in gods. People should get educated, especially on their own claimed 'god'. If they would actually read their claimed "Flawless word of god" books... they'd be horrified from the very first chapter on... but most never read those books!

[@Estee.Ar.6869]

Thank you Jack and Vevian. Great interview.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 💛

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@bigmyke587]

I told a guy who would meet up with me at a laundromat…I told him to read the whole chapter of Mat 24…the look on his face was priceless.. context is so important

[@zulu3779]

Wow , what was the topic or what did he say afterwards?

[@kamalionify]

I have never been a JW, but I'd love to join the group if possible. Jack's spirit is contagious, I admire his soul and I'd love help them out move forward

[@Ed30675]

I am half way through this video... I pause at this juncture to say that this is extraordinary... What I have watched so far echoes my own life... Children the same as Jack, congregation responsibility same as Jack, it is like looking into a mirror...So similar is Jack's life to my own...I will now watch the remainder.. I'm interested to see how he steps of the body of Elders and their reaction etc to this step, and compare with my own experience...

[@vevianvoz]

Thank you for watching💝

[@ChrisPyle]

What did it for me was learning the GB has put in print that Jesus didn’t die for us. Jesus only died for the anointed. We have no new covenant with Jesus, only they do. It’s only by “our strict obedience and close association and support of the gb and their organization, that it’s reasonable to conclude we will also be deemed righteous and become “friends with god”. They have gone so far as to say they themselves will be the judges in heaven that will decide who is worthy of receiving the benefits of Jesus ransom and they will be the ones applying it to us while restoring mankind spiritually, mentally and physically over the 1000 years. They have replaced Jesus with the GB. I am not willing to put my life in the hands of 8 men. Jesus said nothing about a “pay wall” to him. When you start reading the Bible with the goal of understanding what it’s saying, and stop using various sentences to “prove” something you want people to think, it’s shockingly simple.

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

Especially when you think that one of the "governing body" members got caught blowing tons of cash on expensive booze.

[@ChrisPyle]

@@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 Rigbt! That sounds like something I would do, not an “anointed” person that’s being used by god himself lol

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

@@ChrisPyle Meh. A bunch of delusional freemason old farts running a religious scam. Have you seen a video of the aerial view of convention hall in Denmark, designed and built from scratch by the Watchtower itself? Pyramid with one eye on its top. Such things don't turn up accidentally, "they need an intelligent designer", and a freemason at that. 🤔

[@ChrisPyle]

@@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 I have not! But I will check it out for sure. Thanks for the heads up.

[@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040]

@@ChrisPyle Quite an eye opener. Have you left the crazy house yet or are you still with them?

[@ozstriker22]

One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen, the process of an elder waking up, and the love, patience, and humility it took to wake up his wife, and THEN the realization for his wife to go from PIMO to POMO he needed to understand WHY she was a Witness in the first place. Beautiful lesson in love and humility ❤

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@danielecolla5767]

It is so funny how Jack quoted king Solomon rightly, when recently David Splane talked about King Solomon's demise for marrying a foreign woman. Why did he not marry a nice Jewish girl? Jack's approach is so great and refreshing thanks for this interview form a torontonian.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 🤍

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@womanofthenang3210]

I loved every minute of this interview. So positive. Many thanks to you both. Xxx

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@feartofreedom2972]

It was such a pleasure to be your host 😊

[@vevianvoz]

❤🙏🏽

[@96t5wagon]

The contrast between education and indoctrination was amazing

[@jeanniejewel2272]

Thank you for sharing your story with us viewers.

[@vevianvoz]

Thanks for watching 💚

[@feartofreedom2972]

❤

[@seanpearl8156]

For many of us it was learning of the child sex abuse cover-ups in the name of "confidentiality". Then noticing neither literature not meetings discussed the lawsuits and pay-outs to vicitims, meanwhile, condemning the Catholic Church for doing the same. And when they did BRIEFLY discuss the child sex abuse policy, it was only a PARTIAL explanation. They would say elders obey reporting laws, but they never explicitly said what they do if there is no reporting law. They also never shared with us what Watchtower lawyers were telling worldly judges if no reporting law - elders are OBLIGATED to NOT...NOT report and keep such "confidential." So while I could tolerate minor doctrinal "adjustments" I could not accept GROSS MORAL FAILURES and DECEIT. These two really threw me for a loop.

[@christinecardoza7253]

Love this so much!! 😍 great job Vevian and Jack

[@billiewandaferguson2821]

Great Interview! Thank you so much! Jack's story is so inspirational! The search for truth woke me up as well!

[@roysmallian2046]

My god this man on top of being JW he has a gay kid and a transgender kid both of whom he accepts. This man is a saint, for doing the right thing. ------- More commendable than Job.

[@vevianvoz]

I know!❤️

[@intrepidtraveller8212]

Excellent interview!!! He raised excellent "field service points" 🤣🤣🤣..to use with our spouses, family and friends to assist them

[@bethaniefrazier7809]

I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Jack is so articulate and knowledgeable and able to convey his message in a way that enlightens and encourages the audience.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@MsHelper2]

I had quite the similar experience the first time I read Crisis of Conscience. I was home alone yet still ....

[@despertar8394]

OMG this interview was like therapy thanks so much

[@KefashWhite]

I remember that overlapping generation being really confusing. I was tasked to read the watchtower that Sunday and I was hoping my doubts were not visible to all in the audience. 7:32

[@kaizenexcellens]

Thank you Vevian, and thank you Jack! Amazing presentation, its lovely to see such genuine people who have survived the transition.

[@Ed30675]

Brilliant.... I will read Jack's book too... Thank you for posting the video... Extraordinary...

[@merryl55]

Absolutely excellent. Was forced to be a JW as a kid.

[@catmeow333]

Really enjoyed this interview. Next time I hear someone wax nostalgic about the good old days, and dump on “this old system of things” I’m going to ask him about his Wi-Fi, his air conditioning, his cable tv, his dishwasher, his elderly meal delivery, his superior cardiac medical care, his computer, his smart phone and above all his access to dental care !

[@sianmom1983]

Hahaha well said

[@vinnyrodriguez2699]

I wish some of the elders I know would have this attitude. They will teach whatever bs the watchtower tells them without a second thought. Our watchtower conductor for example is absolutely watchtower indoctrinated and will correct any comment that is not correct he makes sure its 100% in line with watchtower doctrine and there is also a sister that always reminds everyone how obedient and loyal she is to the so called faithful slave. Im ashamed to have ever believed their ridiculous doctrines.

[@Kathyco96]

Wow great interview His history is so similar to ours. Thank you both of you ❤👏👏

[@dantoinettetaylor1663]

We are on the same page on the things we take for granted now to be alive today, I think about this each time when I suffer extreme menstrual cramps and reach for a pill or two to take care of this or a headache for heaven’s sake! I am grateful and appreciative to be alive today for all the goodness around me and not to be waiting for the paradise to fix this.

[@A-RonHubbard]

Oh, Vevian! You've got so much flair when you drop your F- word rants. 😂 ♥

[@Expressobean]

Thank you for sharing, I hope the one's still in open their eyes soon.

[@jessekings7828]

Wow...this guy should be a motivational speaker..I stopped going to JW in my teens..all this stuff he talks about gives me PTSD. Good for him. Edit.i finished the video. This man is already a speaker. Good for him.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you 🙏

[@margaretislas2916]

Like brother Eric Wilson another ex elder explained in his videos , we suffer from Cognitive Dissonance after we open our eyes and see who really they are Matthew 7:15; 23:6-12. Practically they take away our will.

[@aliceneely2647]

If you believe in the Bible it's the ultimate cognitive dissonance.

[@mimique1111]

What an amazing interview! This guy is so insightful and funny at the same time!

[@margaretislas2916]

I love this video. I still have not finished watching… it is amazing 😻

[@vevianvoz]

So glad you liked the interview!💖

[@annap1458]

Amazing interview! Dziękuję za podzielenie się swoją historią Jacku.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Proszę bardzo. 😍

[@b1crusade384]

@51:45 Implying Ancient Egypt was not advance as today is a European mindset that is not completely true. Ancient Egypt was Black, but that is a different discussion. They built pyramids we cannot replicate today. They had all kinds of medications and things like birth control that we rediscovered in the past 200 years. The library of Alexander was burned down and had a lot of wisdom lost to us. I am not saying Ancient Egyptians had airplanes or cellphones. But they and other Ancient Africans were way more advanced and developed then give them credit for by European historians (and calling them that is a misnomer as some where more like fiction writers). African advancement took a nosedive when outsides like Arabs, Romans and other Europeans came in.

[@shirleychristiansen3885]

Excellent interview and such good questions. Jack I am so glad you and your family have freedom and unconditional love of family and friends that are free to be themselves.

[@MannyRosa]

Jack, you just made me crack up! I had a similar experience with REM - Losing my religion when I was waking up. Mine happened at work. My coworkers were somewhat instrumental in my awakening. When I would mention something or comment anything unJW like, they would either break into the song or actually play it!😂😂😂😂 That was around the early 2000’s.

[@feartofreedom2972]

That’s funny

[@clivespendlove5993]

remarkable conversation between remarkable people

[@feartofreedom2972]

❤Thank you

[@Godgiveme____]

This was by far my favorite X JW interview. God bless

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@dorothygulliver-davison7616]

I wonder why,Jesus waited until 30 before being baptised

[@ski6703]

Watchtower is playing themselves, left, right, center. Self destructing like the rest of this system. Makes sense.

[@euricuoreendlesslove7527]

💞🌻💚💖👌👏🌻🇨🇦🌅💜💜💜 same here my brothers, thank you 4 sharing🙏🙏🙏

[@hopelove6377]

I want to live in the future that is gonna be even better, not just materialistically but in ways that no amount of money can buy. No going back, forward moving counting blessings and focusing on the good and wholesome things we are now blessed with. Not every thing is all doom and gloom. I’ve lost so many loved ones in death, parents and siblings as well as nieces and nephews and that is sad but I have a hope that burns bright that some day in the future I can see them again, so all is not lost to doom and gloom for where there is hope and a purpose there is real happiness. Hopelessness brings on depression. There is hope and a purpose!❤

[@friendywendy3474]

Thank you for this interview it’s always amazing if it’s coming from an elder

[@georgerickard4915]

Wonderful interview. I would love it if anyone knows what the Bible translation Jack used as he was waking up. I am searching for a reliable translation and the NWT is not a viable option.

[@feartofreedom2972]

I read the polish version as that’s my 1st language. NIV is a Bible in English that I liked

[@georgerickard4915]

@@feartofreedom2972 Thank you Jack. Much appreciated.

[@TheAussieOutdoorBlokes]

Thank You Thank You Thank You another outstanding discussion with such an inspiriational man, husband and father. I sat and listened to your story and as I usually do when listening to these interviews both nodding and shaking my head at what a destructive and lost organaisation the witness organisation is. The part about your father resinated with myself and I knew totally what you were talking about on your fathers reaction, a reaction driven by i believe that it is futilto argue and his relisation of litteraly losing his kids to a cult, The other beuitful thing was your sharing your familly dynamic and the way you have been able to be an integral part of the decisions your daughters have made is inspirational to see as a father myself. Thank you for sharing and thank you Vevian for your channel and is content.

[@Tren-bh7sp]

"Pick and choosing the talks i can give" I know that very well.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thanks!

[@radarada7954]

That was a great interview, thank you! Could you do that again? It was short and it would be interesting to hear him elaborating more about his path. All the best!

[@RG-qn2qm]

Am glad Jack is out of the JW cult, but Catholicism isn't the answer, Jack must drop EVERY DOCTRINE OF THE WATCHTOWER ever taught. Some JWs say they left the JW but carry forward the Watchtower false doctrines. I tell them if you left then make sure you leave all of it.

[@feartofreedom2972]

Agree 100%

[@leetrippii1830]

Exactly. There is a lot great things in this time. I been stop thinking of all the negative because it will manifest nothing but negative things and that's all they do is think of doom. No wonder so much mental illness in that cult

[@calvinmccoy3463]

Would it be possible to get the name of that 4volume set he was holding

[@feartofreedom2972]

That Bible is in polish

[@kathiewalli8746]

Thank you so much for this interview….truly amazing…..describes exactly how I feel and what I’ve done…..I realized within the first few months not to challenge my husband….very good advice…..took years to get over fear….now that I am I feel so free 🙏

[@mamajan99]

How did Jesus identify the Evil Slave? That Evil Slave said their "MASTER WAS DELAYING" 1914...1918... 1925...1975...etc. How does that Evil Slave respond? They BEAT their fellow slaves with "Shunning" and ENFORCE it upon all their friends and family or they will be beaten also.

[@roysmallian2046]

The guy is so intelligent, yet he was so brainwashed. The perniciousness of their faith and I guess any religious faith.

[@strayferal]

I don't understand. 14:33 he says "as a JW I've never read the bible" - how come? A Christian organization which does NOT read the Bible? What do they read then ?? ... Oh wait. A bit later he says "I read JW Bible". So they have their own book then...

[@angelaedmund5836]

As a JW you are always encouraged to read the Bible with their study aids. I was in 35 years and woke up August 2021. The NWT is a terrible version. When I was fully indoctrinated I always had a problem with their version.

[@strayferal]

@@angelaedmund5836 thank you. Glad to hear you're out. How do you cope with the life now? I assume before you had a job with withnesses all around you so you probably changed your job along with all your friends? Aug 2021 was just a year ago, plus it was a terrible period - pandemic was all around. I mean it is a short very short time to change your entire environment. Are you from Toronto?

[@angelaedmund5836]

@@strayferal I'm in Georgia. My husband is from Toronto and still fully in. I'm being soft shunned now. I am making new friends and I started working full-time with victims of domestic violence who are at high risk of being homeless. My best friend woke up too. I sent her a video on disfellowshiping (sp) by ExJW critical thinkers (JT). I'm not writing a letter of disassociation. In order to get baptized I had to write a letter to the Baptist church that I was a member of and it really hurt my family. I have one aunt in her 80's that is a witness. The rest of my family is so happy I am no longer in "that cult". My husband and I don't discuss the org. I am so relieved and so my depression is practically gone. I could never do enough to be good enough. Grace and the freedom of Christ is beautiful.

[@feartofreedom2972]

As a jw I never read the entire Bible. Only read it after I woke up.

[@denishartley3828]

Thank you Vevian & Jack for this inspiring interview, full of positive points to move on and have a very happy life after waking up from Watchtower indoctrination.

[@Joliebebe2001]

Powerful testimony. God bless your family, hope you ll find Christ if it not done yet. He won t deceive you'🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@feartofreedom2972]

Thank you

[@woke2025]

Wow Jack blew my mind . So much grateful to have listened to his amazing story 💓

[@jakeroberts6274]

Great video and love the tip "you have to know why they are in it as JWs to know how to help them exit"