How Parkland student David Hogg beats his critics

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6 жыл бұрын

Parkland shooting survivor David Hogg has some strategies for dealing with smears and conspiracy theories.
A Parkland shooting survivor on why teen activists won't be silenced: “We are teenagers who have nothing to lose.” - bit.ly/2qMGudJ
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After surviving the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Hogg and his classmates became vocal activists in the fight for gun control. But that spotlight has made them prime targets for the right-wing smear machine: a collection of Fox News hosts like Laura Ingraham, conservative pundits, conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones, Twitter provocateurs, and KZbin commentators who piled on to the teens in the wake of the shooting.
Rather than crumbling under the pressure, they're using humor and advertiser pressure to keep their cause in the media spotlight while disarming their critics. In the face of intense media attention, the Parkland students are putting on a masterclass in how to deal with bullies.
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@Vox
@Vox 6 жыл бұрын
Parkland students want change on guns, but what about other students? We asked and recorded the responses: bit.ly/2HboW24
@naaish9161
@naaish9161 6 жыл бұрын
Vox don't give up kid.
@evanwoltman1451
@evanwoltman1451 6 жыл бұрын
Vox disliking b4 I watch 4HEad
@theyungone-cg8ck
@theyungone-cg8ck 6 жыл бұрын
Evan Woltman that is so cool bro
@sunk5778
@sunk5778 6 жыл бұрын
people tend to call other what they are themselves "If wits were weapons and this was a fight you would be unarmed, my Friend"
@sheddyv
@sheddyv 6 жыл бұрын
David should really just sue all of these gigantic media companies for slandering his good name so they could get more views and more money
@SaraH-jn5db
@SaraH-jn5db 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine telling a kid who watched his peers get shot that he has no right to comment on guns
@thebestyoutubecommentever4133
@thebestyoutubecommentever4133 4 жыл бұрын
Nobodies saying he can't comment on it. If anyones saying people can't comment, Its people on the left claiming people can't CRITICIZE those comments because Hogg is a victim.
@ryanthomas49
@ryanthomas49 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn't even at the school when it happened.
@ctrlaltdelete2499
@ctrlaltdelete2499 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Thomas he was, he recorded it I believe
@n.trstenjak2499
@n.trstenjak2499 4 жыл бұрын
Right, so if I'm with my parents walking down a sidewalk, and a truck comes and kills both my parents while I'm standing helplessly watching, does that mean that suddenly everyone is going to take me seriously when I start calling for all cars to be banned? Edit: For you darlings out there who were so blindly focused on my comparison of guns to cars that you missed the entire point of my comment, let me elaborate for you. I was merely pointing out that we should not allow emotions to overwhelm our ability to think rationally. I was trying to say that if someone had a very traumatic experience with anything, a car for instance, it wouldn't be unexpected for them to suggest radical policies with reference to cars, no matter how absurd the suggested policies were.
@tomkurtz3848
@tomkurtz3848 4 жыл бұрын
that doesn't even make sense
@xaviermartinez7734
@xaviermartinez7734 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the adults act like kids while the teens act like adults
@dinosaur7115
@dinosaur7115 4 жыл бұрын
Xavier Martinez ah yes humans
@cranstoncoke5399
@cranstoncoke5399 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadCapMag so we're valuing salaries, the NRA, and the politicians who make money off of guns over mass shooting survivors? This is the America you'd like to live in? Imagine your kids fearing for their lives by just going to school every day. Don't incorporate feelings? Welcome to a dystopia.
@jyapollo
@jyapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Don Francisco did we say no guns forever, or a gun regulation that limits guns? Look at other countries who have gun controls and they have less murders. The Las Vegas shooting would not be a thing. I don’t want my children to fear going to school
@jyapollo
@jyapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Aidan Hyland exactly, because it is easy for criminals to obtain them from the system
@jyapollo
@jyapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Aidan Hyland there was a guy who hoarded 27 guns in his house. What for if guns are only to protect yourself?
@whopperlover1772
@whopperlover1772 5 жыл бұрын
He said he would crumble into a puddle of soy milk....He really memed himself....wow
@cave6665
@cave6665 4 жыл бұрын
FORESHADOWING
@lsd-rickb-1728
@lsd-rickb-1728 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@revolver265
@revolver265 4 жыл бұрын
I think he understands that some people are going to try to hate on him by hurling insults. By actively identifying the host (himself) as a target, it helps to lighten the mood a bit... he's going to have a harder time getting insulted if he used all the ammo that people angry at him woulda otherwise fired.
@shub202
@shub202 4 жыл бұрын
🤣
@elrobsterjeff6040
@elrobsterjeff6040 4 жыл бұрын
@William Kievit bit random
@Sugieb
@Sugieb 5 жыл бұрын
“Mmm, I’m too petty for that” I’m weak lmao
@dinosaur7115
@dinosaur7115 4 жыл бұрын
Sugie B my spirit animal 😂
@MrSuvidh
@MrSuvidh 3 жыл бұрын
I did'nt get that joke can you explain the meaning? Please
@yourlocalramen1660
@yourlocalramen1660 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrSuvidh He's saying he's not gonna crumble under the pressure of a media giant. and he said it in a way that made some people find humor in his statement.
@ryanthomas49
@ryanthomas49 3 жыл бұрын
He is petty tho. Imagine wanting to take away guns from U.S. citizens.
@alex3rd11
@alex3rd11 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthomas49 How is that petty behavior? Seems pretty direct to me.
@Joe1339
@Joe1339 4 жыл бұрын
This one child enraged an adult woman so much, she started speaking like a 3-year old throwing a tantrum she lost sponsorship and posted an apology with her tail between her legs to keep her job. It was ridiculous.
@vegetable1495
@vegetable1495 3 жыл бұрын
joserro It’s honestly funny how immature adults are compared to this kid when it comes to gun control
@YoungBlood507
@YoungBlood507 3 жыл бұрын
Vegetable it’s not adults it’s Fox
@barrelva882
@barrelva882 3 жыл бұрын
THE FACT THAT SHE LOST SPONSORSHIP KILLED ME
@BUSTRCHERRI
@BUSTRCHERRI 3 жыл бұрын
Then she punched his face in. The little pencil necked loser just sat there and cried. Then some Ingram aupporter came up and took a dump on his face. David cried after that. We all laughed.
@aublur4024
@aublur4024 5 жыл бұрын
lmAO I CACKLED AT THE SPONSORS PULLING OUT ON LAURA INGRAHAM
@Sun-vm5fz
@Sun-vm5fz 4 жыл бұрын
"In the spirit of the holy week-" wait what 😂
@DonnaBrooks
@DonnaBrooks 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Sun-vm5fz What she really meant was, "In the spirit of holy week, I want my advertisers back." Save it, Laura, you've always been despicable.
@bejesusbejesus7703
@bejesusbejesus7703 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, her parents didnt pull out
@getdownto311
@getdownto311 3 жыл бұрын
@@bejesusbejesus7703 sadly yours didn't either
@nothanks5752
@nothanks5752 3 жыл бұрын
Bejesus Bejesus you know what? U right
@frydfish4934
@frydfish4934 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even if you're pro guns, treating survivors like that is abhorrent. I could never conceive how terrible it would be to experience that and then face down people saying those things.
@secnytsecnyt2981
@secnytsecnyt2981 4 жыл бұрын
Fryd Fish I know right? I’m sure none of the people arguing for pro-guns have been in an incident like this.
@classonbread5757
@classonbread5757 4 жыл бұрын
@@secnytsecnyt2981 you can't be anti rights
@ConservativeChristian97
@ConservativeChristian97 4 жыл бұрын
@@secnytsecnyt2981 If I was, I would have gunned down the shooters simple as that. Guns will never, can't ever, and won't ever be banned.
@classonbread5757
@classonbread5757 4 жыл бұрын
@depressed cockroach it's easier done than said
@jyapollo
@jyapollo 4 жыл бұрын
Class on Bread yeaaa hows that wall going?
@ghostyboy6181
@ghostyboy6181 4 жыл бұрын
Gen z rlly be unfeeling joke cracking kings and queens
@ayati526
@ayati526 4 жыл бұрын
we do be 😔
@davie9944
@davie9944 3 жыл бұрын
ayati it do be like that at times
@autumncollier6317
@autumncollier6317 3 жыл бұрын
It do be like that doe
@HN-kr1nf
@HN-kr1nf 3 жыл бұрын
it really do be like that
@msgirly6827
@msgirly6827 3 жыл бұрын
We sure areee
@guardosha73671
@guardosha73671 5 жыл бұрын
“I would collapse into a puddle of soy milk.”
@kimberlyerazo9418
@kimberlyerazo9418 4 жыл бұрын
I'd collapse in a puddle of what ever I ate that day
@josemanuelmurguia8970
@josemanuelmurguia8970 3 жыл бұрын
Mood
@EyeLean5280
@EyeLean5280 4 жыл бұрын
Hope he's well. I've been thinking about them all and hoping they're enjoying college, hoping it's a break for them.
@spacecadet8843
@spacecadet8843 2 жыл бұрын
His dad is a fed, he's doing more than well.
@JohnSmith-ct5jd
@JohnSmith-ct5jd Жыл бұрын
If people are too cocky, the expression that used to be used is that they have too big a head. In David Hogg's case, you could say that both figuratively and literally. LOL.
@justas423
@justas423 5 жыл бұрын
Alex Jones hates goblins almost to level Goblin Slayer does.
@LightYagami-wt1jw
@LightYagami-wt1jw 5 жыл бұрын
Goblin remix time
@justas423
@justas423 5 жыл бұрын
@Deja Boo self hate
@justas423
@justas423 5 жыл бұрын
@GamingTV why do you keep your guns in your closet?
@Matt-fl8uy
@Matt-fl8uy 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Jones is a goblin. Are you saying he hates himself?
@RandyR
@RandyR 4 жыл бұрын
Alex Jones is living proof of what it is to walk around with out a brain.
@ishanharshvardhan6687
@ishanharshvardhan6687 4 жыл бұрын
Dude he is genius.... politicians should take his advice...he was able to defeat fox news
@joshuacoleman8000
@joshuacoleman8000 4 жыл бұрын
But Fox News viewers will always be in denial.
@bothi00
@bothi00 4 жыл бұрын
Carson N S why though? I don’t recall those two harassing, abusing and slandering a teenager who survived a shooting. Tell me, why does Fox and right wing media feel the need to not merely critisise, but attack the kid personally, rather than his ideas and what he’s actually saying ? Not just attack the kid, but makes up lies about him to attack him.
@bothi00
@bothi00 4 жыл бұрын
@@cn2673 Okay ya fair I do concede the CNN bit, but what of Vox? Didn't see them "attacking" the kid. Also I feel that's a slightly false equivalency. The smirking kid thing was in the context of a clash between ideologies in an open environment with confrontational behaviour on both sides. While the kid certainly didn't deserve the person abuse for what he did, I don't see the issue with criticising him. With Hogg, this was a kid who had survived a mass shooting, and was simply campaigning for some kind of change to stop these kinds of massacres from happening, or at least making them way less frequent as best as possible. And despite that, he was slandered, abused and threatened by the media and their followers.
@bothi00
@bothi00 4 жыл бұрын
@@cn2673 Okay, fair but I have to ask, what was the relevance of any of this?? This was about a teenager talking about how to handle abuse and lies from the largest media corporation in America, not necessarily "taking them down". So why the need to mention CNN and Vox in those contexts? This thing had with Hogg had nothing to do with the smirking kid incident. So why bring it up like that?
@hostishumanigeneris4472
@hostishumanigeneris4472 4 жыл бұрын
David Hogg: Irrelevant Fox News: Still exists
@mifhadi
@mifhadi 6 жыл бұрын
Came here for the comments 🍿🍾
@pigpower1189
@pigpower1189 6 жыл бұрын
Miftachul Hadi me too
@morghan_with_an_h
@morghan_with_an_h 6 жыл бұрын
same
@pet3590
@pet3590 6 жыл бұрын
The trolls are starting to show up, grab the popcorn!
@pigpower1189
@pigpower1189 6 жыл бұрын
Sameopet want to debate on guns?
@morghan_with_an_h
@morghan_with_an_h 6 жыл бұрын
How about we debate on what I should eat for dinner tonight?
@pringlesthegoose1702
@pringlesthegoose1702 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine disliking a video about a teenager. A teenager. Like, I get it guys, he's intimidating and he's successful, sure, but cmon, don't make yourself feel worse than you already are.
@hostishumanigeneris4472
@hostishumanigeneris4472 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty irrelevant now and our 2nd still stands. Not to mention the Left hasnt stopped, deportations, the shooting of your thugs, etc etc. But "successful", suuuure...👌
@pringlesthegoose1702
@pringlesthegoose1702 4 жыл бұрын
Hostis Humani Generis He’s influenced more people than you ever will.
@hostishumanigeneris4472
@hostishumanigeneris4472 4 жыл бұрын
@@pringlesthegoose1702 And our conservative Supreme Court will influence far more than him. But nice job sticking up for him just because he's in the upper class. I don't really care about inner cities. 🤷‍♂️
@pringlesthegoose1702
@pringlesthegoose1702 4 жыл бұрын
Hostis Humani Generis Oh? Are you the supreme court?
@hostishumanigeneris4472
@hostishumanigeneris4472 4 жыл бұрын
@@pringlesthegoose1702 No, but its mostly conservative thanks to Trump. 😁
@geniusfollower
@geniusfollower 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding subtitles. Vox is great about working with people with a hearing disability, thank you.
@petenice5869
@petenice5869 5 жыл бұрын
geniusfollower Vic also believes that knitting is racist so, you know, way to go
@jonrooney3310
@jonrooney3310 5 жыл бұрын
yea if you are deaf than you were better off before they added subtitles. This video is garbage don"t listen to it...
@samk4379
@samk4379 5 жыл бұрын
geniusfollower the replies to this comment are very idiotic. i’m glad you are able to listen :)
@juhRave
@juhRave 5 жыл бұрын
Did watching Vox make you deaf? 😯
@alexmustang8611
@alexmustang8611 5 жыл бұрын
you mean conservatives?
@stiras1
@stiras1 4 жыл бұрын
Love that he went for the advertisers! Haha! I wish I was there to see her getting dumped.
@punothebear
@punothebear 3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing that someone so young is so vindictive.
@JesusOurSavior7777
@JesusOurSavior7777 2 жыл бұрын
She just replaced them. Im glad your cancelling didn’t last.
@jollymangina2095
@jollymangina2095 6 жыл бұрын
You can take any edit from Alex Jones and it will always be funny
@richardstanford6552
@richardstanford6552 4 жыл бұрын
All I see is adults attacking a boy.😖😖😖😖😖
@calebyao.
@calebyao. 3 жыл бұрын
All i see is boys attacking an adult.
@porterjohnson5517
@porterjohnson5517 3 жыл бұрын
David... David... David... have you never seen a 2016 presidential election reaction montage because if you have you would have seen that your statement makes far more sense for Democrats than Republicans
@guilhermecastro9893
@guilhermecastro9893 3 жыл бұрын
ya his age doesnt matter if he is old enough to be a political commentator then he is old enough to recieve criticism
@guilhermecastro9893
@guilhermecastro9893 3 жыл бұрын
@fdfc rfdd conan o'brains comment was valid criticism and david hogg does the same thing
@georgehouston6327
@georgehouston6327 3 жыл бұрын
Well he was born in 2000 so he's old enough to vote and call out politicians so he needs to be prepared for feedback, especially since he wasn't even at the school at the time of the shooting. Buy hey, he's done well by the left and has been on numerous talk shows and is a young celebrity, he even has a book out. LOL He's living the American dream off the deaths of his classmates.
@victor.rivera9817
@victor.rivera9817 4 жыл бұрын
Its funny when old people get mad
@lyndajones1133
@lyndajones1133 3 жыл бұрын
so you are a psychopath who enjoys the pain of others. how telling.
@ruby-cc4ds
@ruby-cc4ds 3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndajones1133 no it’s just funny seeing old people mad. it’s not that deep
@MarioJengis
@MarioJengis 3 жыл бұрын
@@lyndajones1133 in this instance I think the old people deserve that pain
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 10 ай бұрын
Honestly sounds like he's mad that people will never give up their guns.
@wmadd7181
@wmadd7181 4 жыл бұрын
5:13 Why did y'all leave out the "In bed with a goblin" part? It's the funniest part.
@oliverbuckley-mellor158
@oliverbuckley-mellor158 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure the comment section will be full of insightful and reasonable discussion. Yup, perfectly pleasant.
@Pseudynom
@Pseudynom 6 жыл бұрын
pics.me.me/political-comics-web-toon-comment-section-danemen-toxic-talk-26974662.png
@rampant1apart
@rampant1apart 6 жыл бұрын
BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUP
@karanick016greece2
@karanick016greece2 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Buckley-Mellor All right people stop. The Messiah Hogg shall be untouchable and immune to criticism. That was the 11th command God forgot to give to Moses.
@flintston3r
@flintston3r 6 жыл бұрын
When has KZbin comments ever been insightful? Lol. Wrong neighborhood my dude.
@k1nb1
@k1nb1 6 жыл бұрын
David Lara You haven’t been on a comment section of a news channel pre-2013
@americandreamx7226
@americandreamx7226 6 жыл бұрын
"If kids are old enough to be shot, they're old enough to have an opinion about being shot."
@mr.barkyvonschnauzer1710
@mr.barkyvonschnauzer1710 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when I turned old enough to be shot. Those were the days
@Mr55751
@Mr55751 6 жыл бұрын
"Opinion"
@Keithguinn97
@Keithguinn97 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t aware there was a certain age where being shot was an increased-risk factor lol
@Keithguinn97
@Keithguinn97 6 жыл бұрын
Joel Schembri you could get shot by walking out your front door... I think it’s more of a societal crime issue and than specifically school shootings. Even with recent school shootings, dying outside of a school is much more likely.
@designworksdw1949
@designworksdw1949 6 жыл бұрын
well you can be shot in the womb so i guess there will be a lot of uncomfortable new mothers when they try to get a microphone in for an interview.
@krr7196
@krr7196 4 жыл бұрын
“mmm I’m too petty for that” SAAMMMEEE
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 4 жыл бұрын
Ha. What he did to Ingrahm was godlike.
@stevedowney4056
@stevedowney4056 4 жыл бұрын
XHellXGeistX He wasn’t even there. He admitted when he heard about it he went to the school
@GeistInTheMachine
@GeistInTheMachine 4 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Klebold WRATH and Natural Selection.
@nickpeterson8659
@nickpeterson8659 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevedowney4056 Someone was
@stevedowney4056
@stevedowney4056 4 жыл бұрын
Nick Peterson what are you talking about
@arthurbaker1592
@arthurbaker1592 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevedowney4056 Source?
@nerdspawn4299
@nerdspawn4299 6 жыл бұрын
This is completely irrelevant, but he said turn into a puddle of soy milk. That is my new favorite quote.
@pigpower1189
@pigpower1189 6 жыл бұрын
Hana Usagi this whole video was garbo
@somedude5819
@somedude5819 6 жыл бұрын
Pig Power give a reason why.
@pigpower1189
@pigpower1189 6 жыл бұрын
Some Dude it makes hogg look like a role model
@crazwizardlizard
@crazwizardlizard 6 жыл бұрын
its a reference to the soy boy nonsense i think
@heyjude7092
@heyjude7092 6 жыл бұрын
Soy milk actually reduces estrogen in the body while dairy increases it..
@nuckinfuts7610
@nuckinfuts7610 6 жыл бұрын
"In the spirit of holy week..." Lmao 😂😄
@abelcheng2073
@abelcheng2073 6 жыл бұрын
I guess fox hasn't heard of " you can't fit a camel through the eye of a needle ." P.S come at me triggered PC people!
@unf3z4nt
@unf3z4nt 6 жыл бұрын
Then looks like someone has to make an even bigger needle.
@thomasjess5029
@thomasjess5029 6 жыл бұрын
Nuckin Futs Love, just love your profile name. And yes lmao indeed.
@2012frawd
@2012frawd 6 жыл бұрын
Abel Cheng congrats you triggered no one.
@sabbiewabbiewasabi
@sabbiewabbiewasabi 6 жыл бұрын
Abel Cheng lol rlly nothing better to do than debate in comments ah ... ._. i dun understand you americans
@mikaevans1288
@mikaevans1288 4 жыл бұрын
interviewer:people are calling you an actor survivor:i am an actor actually i wheezed.
@jairobaguio8319
@jairobaguio8319 5 жыл бұрын
I have a conspiracy theory What if everyone is shifshifting lizards and no one wants to confess.
@averagegamer6959
@averagegamer6959 4 жыл бұрын
I have to confess, I’m one of those
@electrocat07
@electrocat07 4 жыл бұрын
I also have to confess, I am a shapeshifting lizard. I'm actually lavender and peppermint
@gloriatrevino1989
@gloriatrevino1989 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@popcultureworld1096
@popcultureworld1096 4 жыл бұрын
jairo baguio bro me too!
@TheWaitingRoomTWR
@TheWaitingRoomTWR 4 жыл бұрын
fear and loathing
@seamuscannon4603
@seamuscannon4603 6 жыл бұрын
Tweeting out Laura's sponsors was freaking genius, I wish I could think of stuff like that
@_The_Moustash_
@_The_Moustash_ 5 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll never have to ;)
@patrickarpaia5639
@patrickarpaia5639 6 жыл бұрын
“If I experienced even a fraction of that, I would collapse into a puddle of soy milk” was possibly the gayest thing anybody has ever said in the entirety of ever.
@daughter-of-sappho
@daughter-of-sappho 6 жыл бұрын
That's why it's so good.
@CraftKitty007
@CraftKitty007 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Arpaia yeah? Isn't he great?
@kingofmtakina
@kingofmtakina 6 жыл бұрын
Yas kween
@katobytes
@katobytes 6 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to be a dig at the soyboy memes
@frogery
@frogery 6 жыл бұрын
that was the point. it's called irony.
@nas84payne
@nas84payne 4 жыл бұрын
Looking back, none of the smears have come true (what a shock...). And good to see that David and the rest of Parkland kids haven't given up their cause.
@Galuex24
@Galuex24 4 жыл бұрын
Trying to give away their 2nd amendment rights. Yep!
@wyagyusername4804
@wyagyusername4804 4 жыл бұрын
To take away rights we all are born with? DoInG a GrEaT JoB!!!!!
@secnytsecnyt2981
@secnytsecnyt2981 4 жыл бұрын
wyagy username Yes, because when you’re born and a baby, the first most important right is to have a gun next to you to play with.
@pingaslord9726
@pingaslord9726 4 жыл бұрын
@@secnytsecnyt2981 It's the right to defend yourself at the very very least.
@aaronnotley-jones2140
@aaronnotley-jones2140 3 жыл бұрын
@@pingaslord9726 how come every other country doesn't need a ar15 to do that then?
@maimaibacay
@maimaibacay 3 жыл бұрын
why are adults picking up on teenagers? cmon man, pick someone your own size!
@thatssofetch3481
@thatssofetch3481 3 жыл бұрын
PEEJ I think that when you choose to stand in the spotlight, you lose the right to not be criticised.
@maimaibacay
@maimaibacay 3 жыл бұрын
That’s So Fetch! kinda sad isn’t it
@thatssofetch3481
@thatssofetch3481 3 жыл бұрын
PEEJ He chose to be an activist. He isn’t immune to criticism.
@chebet1411
@chebet1411 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatssofetch3481 yes but some people should have the decency to not target him after all he's been through
@thatssofetch3481
@thatssofetch3481 3 жыл бұрын
Bob Backwards You’re right.
@Topself24
@Topself24 6 жыл бұрын
“Mmmm....I’m too petty for that.” Lol
@FirstLast-lm8tf
@FirstLast-lm8tf 6 жыл бұрын
He has an awful personality, that's why everyone is attacking him out of all the other kids
@RFLCPTR
@RFLCPTR 6 жыл бұрын
Explain your opinion. Please.
@why33-00
@why33-00 6 жыл бұрын
T Stanton yes he is an a hole
@boulshyte8932
@boulshyte8932 6 жыл бұрын
that part was too funny
@Snowywarriorxp
@Snowywarriorxp 6 жыл бұрын
First Last I agree Please explain you're opinion more.
@DelbyDank
@DelbyDank 6 жыл бұрын
"Collapse into a puddle of soy milk" lol
@damnbro53
@damnbro53 6 жыл бұрын
Bag he’s PC. He of course had to do throw that in.
@that_pac123
@that_pac123 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, soy is the gayest plant afterall, that's why I eat only soy.
@MrMosin-sv3xu
@MrMosin-sv3xu 6 жыл бұрын
S O Y B O Y
@IAN_GRAY
@IAN_GRAY 6 жыл бұрын
oh yeah of course because he's vegan. just had to throw that in didn't he
@swissyodeler6970
@swissyodeler6970 6 жыл бұрын
That's the joke.
@ashleymurison9254
@ashleymurison9254 5 жыл бұрын
Just when you have some faith in humanity restored, you look at the youtube comments and you die a little on the inside.
@ryanthomas49
@ryanthomas49 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, heaven forbid someone disagrees with him on literally wanting to take gun rights away from U.S. citizens.
@LjuboCupic1912
@LjuboCupic1912 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthomas49 wanting stricter gun control does not necessarily mean taking all guns away.
@ryanthomas49
@ryanthomas49 3 жыл бұрын
@@LjuboCupic1912 we already have some of the strictest gun control laws in the U.S. What is making more gun control laws going to do? If you don't like guns, then don't buy them.
@kyletran8064
@kyletran8064 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanthomas49 I dont think legally bring able to purchase military grade weapons from walmart count as strict gun control laws. You see places like Oceania, Canada, and Western Europe, and you wonder why their homicide and murder rates are substantially lower. Maybe bc of gun control laws?
@user-tu2dr3ny6x
@user-tu2dr3ny6x 2 жыл бұрын
@@kyletran8064 Explain Switzerland then...
@benedictifye
@benedictifye 4 жыл бұрын
6:35 is "in the crosshairs" the best metaphor to use for people who survived a shooting?
@legstitchedtigerftw2455
@legstitchedtigerftw2455 4 жыл бұрын
benedictify 🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@jason32708
@jason32708 Ай бұрын
He didn't survive a shooting, he witnessed one..allegedly.
@rigomcfuzzyhead6126
@rigomcfuzzyhead6126 6 жыл бұрын
>”You don’t need to go after them personally.” Goes after them personally.
@Julie-yx1im
@Julie-yx1im 6 жыл бұрын
Rigo McFuzzyhead He was saying making comments attacking them on things such as appearance and intelligence.
@ApolloAlto
@ApolloAlto 6 жыл бұрын
He went after policies, not people on a fundamental level. I love how he got FOX News and that political hack Laura Ingrahm to tap out.
@FerdinandZebua
@FerdinandZebua 6 жыл бұрын
I love you.
@rigomcfuzzyhead6126
@rigomcfuzzyhead6126 6 жыл бұрын
Ferdinand Zebua •3• *smooch*
@tori2dles
@tori2dles 6 жыл бұрын
He did? I didn’t hear him making disparaging comments or picking on her intelligence, appearance or other traits. If he did, please post a link. I did a Google search, but find nothing. Now, he did go after her meanness & lack of professionalism towards him. She made trollish remarks and, in her profession, that type of bully maneuver isn’t tolerated. But he didn’t troll her back. He chose to address her on a professional level. He didn’t spew or whine. He kept it all business & let the public decide by listing the show’s sponsors.
@portero9593
@portero9593 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Crowder incoming.
@JukeboxJake
@JukeboxJake 6 жыл бұрын
portero n87 yep, that is what immediately went through my mind.
@shabbii296
@shabbii296 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait.
@howardbaxter2514
@howardbaxter2514 6 жыл бұрын
I’m Pro-2A Change My Mind
@onetwobucklemyfkingshoe6954
@onetwobucklemyfkingshoe6954 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Montrond Dumbass lefty spotted.
@SonoftheKing88
@SonoftheKing88 6 жыл бұрын
PCP haha good one!
@sabrinakopke8911
@sabrinakopke8911 3 жыл бұрын
"Just say I love you, that's what the world needs." I HAVE HOPE! I LOVE YOU!
@jackmaher4466
@jackmaher4466 Жыл бұрын
Who is funding him? Follow the money.
@hughobyrne8921
@hughobyrne8921 6 жыл бұрын
By not debating them, that’s how he beats his critics.
@haleydanvers3217
@haleydanvers3217 6 жыл бұрын
He says that they pick their battles. They DON'T battle. Lol
@Laurence2000
@Laurence2000 6 жыл бұрын
What makes you think that somebody who gets off on mocking somebody else for being turned down by a few elite colleges is worthy of debate, and not ridicule?
@haleydanvers3217
@haleydanvers3217 6 жыл бұрын
Laurence I'm not saying what Laura said was right, but silencing voices and ridiculing others isn't how to make anything better. All it does is spread more hate, when he supposedly wants to get rid of hate and unite Americans. He's approaching all of this the wrong way in my opinion.
@haleydanvers3217
@haleydanvers3217 6 жыл бұрын
trollslayertim 92 I never said that they didn't ridicule him. BUT he should know by now that by putting himself in the spotlight that he's going to be ridiculed. It's just a part of life, he needs to grow up and decide whether or not he's a child or an adult, because it seems like he's confused right now. Laura Ingraham wasn't necessarily right in what she did, but she has the right to say what she wants, was it wrong? Of course it was. However, David Hogg doesn't want to be the adult here and decided to be just as petty as she was. Then he says he's a child and hides behind that shield. All the other side of this argument seems to be doing is using emotional appeal to prove their points, rather than using ACCURATE statistics and reason.
@raventelevision5382
@raventelevision5382 6 жыл бұрын
Video literally says he picks the battles to not get swamped with bullshit
@mactastic144
@mactastic144 6 жыл бұрын
They are comparing him to Hitler because they never thought Hitler was going to take away the guns, but he did.
@raney150
@raney150 5 жыл бұрын
He actually didn't. Not for a majority of the population anyway. For the Jews, yeah he kinda did.
@paperbackwriter1111
@paperbackwriter1111 5 жыл бұрын
@@raney150 Well, you needed to be party member.
@wasabi42
@wasabi42 4 жыл бұрын
old people just don’t like when young people actually speak up and make it known that it’s their country too
@aleksfoxtrot8044
@aleksfoxtrot8044 4 жыл бұрын
We dont like people trying disarm us.
@tea5224
@tea5224 4 жыл бұрын
Aleksfoxtrot True.
@wasabi42
@wasabi42 4 жыл бұрын
Aleksfoxtrot boo hoo
@2AForever-wi8yj
@2AForever-wi8yj 4 жыл бұрын
children should be seen and not heard . why is it liberals treat children like they are adults but want to treat adults like they are children . big daddy government please take care of us.
@bobjones1783
@bobjones1783 4 жыл бұрын
Because teenagers have nothing valuable to offer the world
@richardstanford6552
@richardstanford6552 4 жыл бұрын
Why do all of these politicians use ageist remarks, "Oh he is to young," The comment that made me laugh was "he has no soul" After all of these school shootings you would think the NRA would stop selling the guns. The NRA is making money so they are "happy" If I were the NRA I would begin looking at the stats
@zacheryjequinto7259
@zacheryjequinto7259 4 жыл бұрын
And yet months after the ok boomer meme has passed, boomers are still going on about it. It's we're on Instagram but they're still using Myspace.
@OttCollin0311
@OttCollin0311 4 жыл бұрын
Have you looked at the stats?
@pingaslord9726
@pingaslord9726 4 жыл бұрын
@@zacheryjequinto7259 hey pal. Stop using the NRA as a scapegoat please.
@raymondmorris8833
@raymondmorris8833 4 жыл бұрын
@@grant133 you do realize that Switzerland also has a much more comprehensive and longer process to get a gun right?
@raymondmorris8833
@raymondmorris8833 2 жыл бұрын
@Steven Wolfe you did not just reply to a year-old comment 💀
@kingjayded4752
@kingjayded4752 6 жыл бұрын
This comment section will be wonderful, I'm sure
@Pseudynom
@Pseudynom 6 жыл бұрын
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@salpertia
@salpertia 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully some of the people who think cnn and other mainstream media outlets are angels will click the link I sent them
@91145929
@91145929 4 жыл бұрын
@@salpertia Got a right wing here. Be careful guys, things started getting toxic.
@pnyam1u
@pnyam1u 6 жыл бұрын
You allowed the comments open !? Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru
@PiesAreOverrated
@PiesAreOverrated 6 жыл бұрын
Nani?
@pnyam1u
@pnyam1u 6 жыл бұрын
Shikata ga nai
@Thedevilhealer
@Thedevilhealer 6 жыл бұрын
not for long
@jackjowett902
@jackjowett902 6 жыл бұрын
*NANI?!*
@hunnynary8695
@hunnynary8695 6 жыл бұрын
Exxcuse me ? Why are you saying that they're already dead?😂
@charleshetrick3152
@charleshetrick3152 Жыл бұрын
Does he beat them with his armed security?
@MrCmon113
@MrCmon113 10 ай бұрын
He sounds like a very persuasive, kind gentleman. He can take my guns from my cold dead hands!
@d_qn5071
@d_qn5071 4 ай бұрын
im sure that wont be a problem x
@zaanga7340
@zaanga7340 6 жыл бұрын
He beat them by not debating them..
@frostbite2825
@frostbite2825 6 жыл бұрын
GeneralSPatton Games you can’t lose a fight you never got into
@alwinpriven2400
@alwinpriven2400 6 жыл бұрын
Worked against Hannibal
@Niklback1
@Niklback1 6 жыл бұрын
Choosing which arguments to debate is the most debaty tactic in debating
@Dragonfallz
@Dragonfallz 6 жыл бұрын
I don't give a platform to people with enough of a platform. Debates aren't useful.
@travistravinyle4207
@travistravinyle4207 6 жыл бұрын
Lol no, it proved he primarily parrots talking points and would be totally unable to hold is own in a debate.
@emexdizzy
@emexdizzy 6 жыл бұрын
It seems like everyone just shouts "gun control bad" and "gun control good" in the media all the time so the one thing that sticks out to me was his point that like nobody talks about the policy. Why can't these grown adults engage in the issue of policy instead of insulting his GPA, that's so terribly immature, it's like they don't even care about the issue... oh wait...
@sorryperson92
@sorryperson92 6 жыл бұрын
Siara Hughes people taking a hard stance one or the other side about anything, especially gun control are quite often ignoring the nuances. I think striking a balance is important. I don't want to see all guns taken away (small arms are pretty good for protecting yourself) but simultaneously something must be done when you have the worst stats for gun related violence per capita in the developed world. You don't really hear about mass shootings anywhere in but in the U.S. and they happen frighteningly often here. I think gun control in the sense of regulating who exactly gets guns (i.e. those who do not have mental disorder like schizophrenia) and what is very difficult to get even if you're healthy (I think anything larger than a hunting rifle should be very heavily regulated).
@ScarButta
@ScarButta 6 жыл бұрын
That's what Kyle Kashuv (another survivor) has been doing. He spoke to state and federal representatives and helped suggest policy that has actually been implemented.
@Hastambre
@Hastambre 6 жыл бұрын
Siara Hughes nobody talks about how since the 1950's 98% of all mass shootings have occurred in gun free zones
@555Trout
@555Trout 6 жыл бұрын
I don't engage in policy issue discussions with children. For the exact same reason we as a society do not allow them to vote. We do not consider their mental, emotional, and psychological development adequate to vote. I'm not even remotely interested in what they think. Now, if I were their parent, I'd listen to them out of "respect" and to nurture their development. However, when craven ideologues exploit these children and put them on stage "demanding" anything, and in the process demonizing and scapegoating millions of citizens, well, I'm afraid the swift and explicit sanctioning by the adults in the room will ensue. As it should. The disgrace in all of this is actually the children's parents. For they are not serving them by allowing what has transpired. The children were exploited, period.
@gimmethegepgun
@gimmethegepgun 6 жыл бұрын
greg sheppard The constitution can be changed. It has been in the past due to grievous errors that were put into it. Besides which, if you'd actually read the 2nd amendment, it clearly says "well-regulated militia", which has nothing to do with personal ownership.
@victorbruce5772
@victorbruce5772 Жыл бұрын
How patriotic to undermine your own country's constitution.
@harlenscabbard8271
@harlenscabbard8271 Жыл бұрын
David Hogg is a National Hero and true American Patriot. We The People salute him for his bravery and tireless, effective activism.
@anauthor3330
@anauthor3330 Ай бұрын
@@harlenscabbard8271 You nor David Hogwash speak for the people. You speak for genocidal tyrants that directly benefit from an unarmed populace. You are on the horribly wrong side of history.
@kuniosaiki
@kuniosaiki 3 жыл бұрын
If tagging all her sponsors wasn’t an epic power move, idk what is.
@BUSTRCHERRI
@BUSTRCHERRI 3 жыл бұрын
It worked awesome. She doubled them and got new ones when they came back.
@punothebear
@punothebear 3 жыл бұрын
It was an epic example of vengeance overkill done with a malicious motivation. As far as being a survivor is concerned, that is all I've ever been. Born in a bad neighborhood, poor, abusive WW2 PTSD father, inner city schools, Vietnam vet, accident survivor, heroin and other drug use, blizzards, tornadoes, hurricanes, robbery , heart disease, combat vet, agent orange exposure and born too late to be computer proficient. Father died one year, mother the next and wife a year later. And no media calling me a survivor or heroic.
@tanvikejriwal1
@tanvikejriwal1 6 жыл бұрын
Is it okay in the US to talk about minors in the national media like that?
@mph2336
@mph2336 6 жыл бұрын
talk big u gotta be big
@FirstLast-lm8tf
@FirstLast-lm8tf 6 жыл бұрын
Well apparently it's okay for David Hogg to swear a lot on national media so why not?
@Grandfinal43
@Grandfinal43 6 жыл бұрын
wtf? a kid thats been involved in another school shooting he has every right to bed emotional. these pundits however with their highly personalised attacks are in fact out of line
@cuprofessa
@cuprofessa 6 жыл бұрын
If you put yourself in the public arena then you’re not above criticism and having your point of view challenged. Grow up you pathetic sjw
@preid122o
@preid122o 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately right wing media in the country has no unbiased sources, all they do is pander to a base to inflame rage at fictitious scandals or promote party agenda over individual well being.
@ImperiaGin
@ImperiaGin 6 жыл бұрын
When grown men and women insult victims. these people would the type of parents to say to their kids,oh it's alright you got shot at least you're alive.
@why33-00
@why33-00 6 жыл бұрын
Abe the insults came from him first many times. The woman who gets raped and says all men are evil is left alone. When left wing media shoves a mic and camera in her mouth and face and that's all we here on there news outlets for 4 plus weeks. Her victim pass has expired and she will get verbally brutally corrected.
@camerondavis6462
@camerondavis6462 6 жыл бұрын
If you put yourself out there on media claiming certain viewpoints wanting to challenge certain rights afforded by the Constitution, heck yeah they deserved to be argued with and debated with logic, sure of course it is not nice to call people names that have nothing to with what they are saying but they have to be ready to face all kinds of opposition. Some of the opposition may be illogical, some may be logical but that doesn't mean that if they are a victim of tragedy and decide to rally behind gun control and go on to the main stream news that they are "Free From Criticism." You have to take all of it, including the insults. Right now I am stating my belief therefore I have to be ready to take insults. If you can't handle mild/weird insults then maybe you can't handle the spotlight.
@Black_Iron_Tarkus
@Black_Iron_Tarkus 6 жыл бұрын
getting shot at doesn't make someones political views less retarded
@camerondavis6462
@camerondavis6462 6 жыл бұрын
Black Iron Tarkus it doesn’t mean he is retarded, it means we can argue the effectiveness of his policy/ let’s have a separation of person and policy proposed
@adam3496
@adam3496 6 жыл бұрын
That’s like saying I survived the cancer, now I know the cure ( sorry for my blunt example )
@justthatnoodle
@justthatnoodle 3 жыл бұрын
i hate it when people make a conspiracy theory of events that are proven to be real people lost their lives yet you continue to say it never happened
@zacharylegaspi7594
@zacharylegaspi7594 5 жыл бұрын
**Swan dives into comment section**
@ZombieWolfe
@ZombieWolfe 6 жыл бұрын
0:32 so he called himself a soyboy?
@bobshoe8426
@bobshoe8426 6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy! A gun control video from Vox! Comments are gonna be Great!
@catbunDigital
@catbunDigital 6 жыл бұрын
*hands over survival gear* You're gonna need this.
@V8_Diva
@V8_Diva 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Hsu i subscribed only for their bias left videos. It's great comedy.
@saucypupper3347
@saucypupper3347 6 жыл бұрын
And it's not even about gun control! So already people are missing the point!
@bobshoe8426
@bobshoe8426 6 жыл бұрын
Saucy Pupper it turns into one real fast.
@saucypupper3347
@saucypupper3347 6 жыл бұрын
That's for true, I give you that
@asheiou
@asheiou 5 жыл бұрын
That like dislike ratio is scary
@johnrenzi95
@johnrenzi95 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin does that!!
@secnytsecnyt2981
@secnytsecnyt2981 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly... the point of the video wasn’t to promote gun regulations, it was the strategies of David Hogg in an argument.
@lolipanda2763
@lolipanda2763 4 жыл бұрын
Where is this kid's account. He is much more smarter than I want to be in my dreams.
@kazuwacky
@kazuwacky 6 жыл бұрын
These kids are executing a masterclass in social media savvy that is simply beyond the much older bullies they face. I wish they weren't having to deal with this but they are doing a phenomenal job.
@alexramirez4371
@alexramirez4371 6 жыл бұрын
Ms Articulate not rlly ... the real person that is actually doing something is Kyle kush cuz he actually met with senators oh and he’s a conservative.
@edfromchowderheads1312
@edfromchowderheads1312 6 жыл бұрын
Ms Articulate at what? David Hogg’s already mocked half the legislators, he’s rejected a phone call from one of the most powerful leaders in the world. He’s ostracised every gun owner, he’s called for boycotts of companies that disagree with him. He’s called the NRA child murderers. He isn’t going to accomplish anything through his ignorant behaviour. It’s only going to annoy people.
@kazuwacky
@kazuwacky 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't that the kid who's dad altered emails between him and CNN? Because that certainly isn't social media savvy.
@l3fth4nd
@l3fth4nd 6 жыл бұрын
Edfromchowderheads David Hogg and other Parkland survivors have done something people of the previous generations have spectacularly failed to address; school shooting massacres. I am the generation that went to high school during Columbine, and since then, absolutely nothing has changed. School shootings are a norm in this country because we refuse to take responsibility and recognition for our firearms. I am very glad the new generation has made this a priority. The politicians have failed. The NRA has failed. And we have failed. Why do we continue to tolerate and pander to psychopaths to own fire arms? I am glad Hogg is calling BS on this.
@paul8m3
@paul8m3 6 жыл бұрын
Ms Articulate Bullys=People who want to keep their constitutional rights. Heroes=People who want to take rights from others. How brainwashed does one need to be in order to believe this statement?
@josephvoynik1209
@josephvoynik1209 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO why did they use Alex Jones as an example no one takes him seriously in both parties
@MrAwesomedude808
@MrAwesomedude808 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Voynik unfortunately trump does
@phoebe1769
@phoebe1769 6 жыл бұрын
because unfortunately a lot of people do
@Domepeezy
@Domepeezy 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph Voynik u must not know who Donald Trump is 😂
@EarendilStar
@EarendilStar 6 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the comments here say otherwise :-/
@bravenwolf5567
@bravenwolf5567 6 жыл бұрын
His name is Paul Blart you uncultured communist. My boy thicc af
@chownful
@chownful 5 жыл бұрын
David Hogg already pedaling his bike to Virginia
@Football5198
@Football5198 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve “survived” many events...of course I also wasn’t there for most of them either so......according to logic nowadays that makes me a “survivor”.
@CloudWolfs
@CloudWolfs 4 жыл бұрын
😂 😂 😂
@williamfoster2681
@williamfoster2681 5 ай бұрын
i was excited to see him debate colion noir, but he backed out. why?
@highwired7781
@highwired7781 2 ай бұрын
Because he’d be made out to be an even bigger embarrassment than he already Is and he knows it 😂
@nihvl
@nihvl 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna grab a popcorn and will be back after few hours when the comment section lit up
@theocean1973
@theocean1973 6 жыл бұрын
It already has; the tinfoil-hat-wearing alt right is in maximum troll mode. They’re triggered by a sensible young person and they need a safe space from his anti-gun microaggressions!
@relapsedcactus4195
@relapsedcactus4195 6 жыл бұрын
Sensible. He has called multiple people child killing murderers for the reason that he disagrees with their political views. Just because they only showed him being a nice kid doesn't mean he is
@RealBigNope
@RealBigNope 6 жыл бұрын
This kid is a joke and anyone who stand by him is also a joke. Enough said.
@Ghaleon42
@Ghaleon42 6 жыл бұрын
Enough said? I'm not convinced. Please go on.
@abmindprof
@abmindprof 6 жыл бұрын
You're right. They're only enablers of child-killing murderers.
@tessy4018
@tessy4018 6 жыл бұрын
I find fascinating that most criticism targets his age, not what he may have actually said, to showcase that he apparently doesn’t know much about gun control. Classic ad hominem arguments, dismissing what he has to say based on who he is instead of what he said, and getting lost in the inane debate of wether or not he should be listened to. I mean, if he’s so young/inexperienced/alien/an actor, I’m sure his arguments would be easy to disprove, no? I‘m aware of how tough it is to get facts due to NRA blocking studies and how murky it can get, but there are a few legitimate studies out there. Seems to me that either you discredit someone‘s arguments with facts, or... well, if you can’t, maybe consider either research or adding nuance on your viewpoint. The smear campaign seems more like desperate attempts to discredit someone because they cannot actually debate the issue itself. In the words of the great Donald Trump... „sad“.
@coolplyx5
@coolplyx5 6 жыл бұрын
He literally swears and makes obscene statements in his interviews, and completely exaggerates most of his comments. Moreover, news outlets such as CNN and Vox express David's opinions, as they are young and have a shield of immunity having just survived a school shooting. This leads to false ideas and facts being spread due to the exploitation of these kids. His main view on gun control is fine, but when he backs it up with rude statements, he should be criticised on all fronts.
@tim55075
@tim55075 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Howlett his "view on gun control" is not fine at all. He supports ban and consifiscation. Communist scum like this needs to be physically removed from polite society.
@tessy4018
@tessy4018 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I’m not familiar with his swearing/obscene comments. That should absolutely be criticized if true. But that does not mean that his points on gun control should face the same criticism-the way someone says something doesn’t necessarily discredit the content of what they are saying. That’s what I find distressing-the shutting down of his comments on gun control based on the way he said them is irrational. Now, in terms of the shield of immunity he may have as a victim, regardless if justified, should not be applicable to the facts that he may present, I 100% agree with that. As stated before, I would like to see the rebuttal of his arguments based on their content, his character has little to do with it, and should be criticized seperately. I would actually understand the immunization of being a victim within a school shooting if applied to criticism on his character-I think we can all understand Hogg went through traumatic events and should benefit from more understanding and compassion than a non-victim when criticizing his approach. But I also disagree with using this immunity as an excuse to not think critically and fact check his arguments on gun control. So essentially-he should be criticized for his way of approaching this issue but I think we can all agree that we should keep in mind that Hogg went through trauma-adult or not. However, this should not mean that if his arguments are factually incorrect, they shouldn’t be highlighted as such, with explanations of course. I won’t defend the media outlets that aren’t doing so. I would point out that if the conservative media adopted that strategy from the beginning, they wouldn’t be seen as the type of people who would try to smear a victim of a school shooting. Positioning yourself as understanding but arguing his points factually instead; hence removing yourself from being confronted to this « immunity », would have been much smarter. You may argue that the townhall debate was an attempt at doing so, but the media coverage of it fell right into the trap of questioning these kids’ validity and hence hit the wall of immunity. Factually disproving them and avoiding a smear campaign at all cost would actually have positioned them in a much stronger place against gun control.
@davidmhh9977
@davidmhh9977 6 жыл бұрын
T.J. Upchurch He's a teenager who just survived a shooting. Is it that bad that he's a bit stricter on gun control than you think he should be? I'm not saying you should agree with everything he says, but it's a lot more valid than NRA propaganda. Also don't you have better things to do than advocate beating someone for having opinions than yours and vilifying a highschooler? Just a thought
@tessy4018
@tessy4018 6 жыл бұрын
J ronnn J ronnn J ronnn hum, NRA has a history of blocking government research on gun control. It’s been quite well researched. I’m quite disconcerted by that comment actually, this is quite well known? Here’s some reading on the topic: www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2013/02/gun-violence.aspx scholar.colorado.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1222&context=honr_theses www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-04-21/break-the-nra-s-ban-on-gun-violence-research www.wired.com/2017/01/gun-research-will-get-even-difficult-nra-friendly-trump/amp www.jstor.org/stable/3312930?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/12/08/458952821/congress-still-limits-health-research-on-gun-violence On the research on Gun violence that is available (internationally and the little that is available nationally), please do point me towards research that would show how ease of accessibility to guns causes higher safety and lower mass shooting rates please? Genuinely curious, read a little on the topic and the statistical evidence overwhelmingly points in the other direction. To have a look to what I am referring to, I suggest checking out the work made by these ppl: newsroom.ucla.edu/ucla-faculty-experts-gun-violence-and-mass-shootings
@tcapo514
@tcapo514 Жыл бұрын
who takes advice from a sixteen-year-old ? Answer : NOBODY.
@burntbread9724
@burntbread9724 5 жыл бұрын
"Mmm, I'm too petty for that." mOod
@lazyperfectionist1
@lazyperfectionist1 6 жыл бұрын
Dana Loesch: "If you're too immature to carry a firearm, you're too immature to make policy." How do you presume to measure maturity? In my life, I've known _60-year-olds_ who were too immature to carry a firearm. The State did _nothing_ restrict their policy-making ability.
@romanempire8705
@romanempire8705 6 жыл бұрын
lazyperfectionist1 I think the concept is right on point, but the policy doesn't reflect the concept. Just like marriage is available for adults but there are tons of 20+ year old children getting married resulting in divorce rate increase :/. Same thing.
@MasteringJohn
@MasteringJohn 6 жыл бұрын
Adults are more experienced than children. Whether or not they *learn* from those experiences is a different question, but there is a good reason why someone would weigh an adult's opinion higher than a child's.
@hafsa7951
@hafsa7951 6 жыл бұрын
I just wanna tell you i see your comments in nearly most of the video I watch and I just wanna say hi, and let you know that I feel like your assigned FBI agent
@Echonova21
@Echonova21 6 жыл бұрын
I think the idea that a child is less experienced and can't make a valid argument is bullshit. We live in the internet age if a kid wants to make an argument they have access to all the same information adults do. What matters is not life experience for it misses the complexity of the real world, numbers and evidence is all that is needed for a good argument. Adults just use the young factor to discount the views of the youth, its a basic ad hominem and for some reason it's one that works. The elite just want to avoid debating the argument at hand like usual so they go for the low hanging fruit. Regardless of the age the person is or their background you always debate the point at hand with a rebuttal, evidence, and a good argument anything less isn't honesty in a debate. Come one people you should know this, it's debate 101.
@orbojunglist
@orbojunglist 6 жыл бұрын
Pre frontal cotrex is your friend. Your brain is not even fully wired up until 25 or so, teens do not use their brains in the same way as adults, they are works in progress... intelligence and wisdom are not mutually exclusive.
@killaronjones3933
@killaronjones3933 6 жыл бұрын
"How parkland student david hogg beats his critics." By not debating them?
@badboje6040
@badboje6040 6 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, just call them child killers enough and they'll admit they're wrong eventually...not.
@killaronjones3933
@killaronjones3933 6 жыл бұрын
Woody It's so damn obvious this kid does it for the fame. I really don't think it's a coincidence he and his friends are part of the stage class. Those kids were always so annoying.
@trinityfrank2526
@trinityfrank2526 6 жыл бұрын
Why are you not top comment?
@areyousureaboutthat6673
@areyousureaboutthat6673 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@cold_ramen7403
@cold_ramen7403 6 жыл бұрын
You don’t debate conspiracy theories
@seanfan1500
@seanfan1500 3 жыл бұрын
“Attacks on policy...not against me” Yeah, this kid is a debate kid :^)
@Dino-Hrnic.
@Dino-Hrnic. 5 жыл бұрын
Guys i think alex jones is goblinophobic or even goblinist
@shawnwalsh2060
@shawnwalsh2060 6 жыл бұрын
Crowders Rebuttal video for this is going to be a good one :)
@onekom7562
@onekom7562 6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Walsh I really hope that he brings up how David talked about how clear backpacks went against students rights meanwhile he was trying to ban certain guns all together... Oh the irony
@frostbite2825
@frostbite2825 6 жыл бұрын
Onekom he’s already mentioned that I believe, that or Ben Shapiro did
@theleft-hander1908
@theleft-hander1908 6 жыл бұрын
Onekom The right to privacy is a trillion times more important than the right to own a firearm.
@marshall4448
@marshall4448 6 жыл бұрын
Channel of Things troll
@shawnwalsh2060
@shawnwalsh2060 6 жыл бұрын
Channel of Things in your opinion, doesn't make it true.
@NatalynTheRockerGurl
@NatalynTheRockerGurl 6 жыл бұрын
the advertiser move was genius. much kudos to David.
@pet3590
@pet3590 6 жыл бұрын
Way smarter than all the losers attacking him and the other students. It really shows how sad these people are, stooping below teenagers.
@Yatrix7
@Yatrix7 6 жыл бұрын
(It's actually terroristic and fascist, but sure, keep thinking that)
@jeanchristophegatien
@jeanchristophegatien 6 жыл бұрын
+Yatrix7 To what? Make people accountable for their actions? Damn be responsibilities!
@GiDD504
@GiDD504 6 жыл бұрын
Cat Dang Ton people have ran people over and killed them with their cars. Should we ban all cars?
@nws6146
@nws6146 6 жыл бұрын
Sameopet doesn’t matter what age you are when you threaten people’s personal liberties. I’m incredibly sorry that their friends died, but they’re not gun experts.
@doublea1671
@doublea1671 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m too petty for that” Haha, yeah that would be me too
@TheGringuish12
@TheGringuish12 2 жыл бұрын
That “post their sponsors “ is a Genius move, we need more of these
@themonkey4465
@themonkey4465 6 жыл бұрын
Here comes Crowder...
@michaelgirgis9019
@michaelgirgis9019 6 жыл бұрын
How is it possible that this moron has so many viewers? Do you guys actually enjoy watching Louder with Crowder? People keep posting about him and it’s making me despair over the right-wing’s intellectual drought...
@animock3051
@animock3051 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Girgis Give 3 examplea
@michaelgirgis9019
@michaelgirgis9019 6 жыл бұрын
You got it sir, Example #1: www.louderwithcrowder.com/nasa-now-says-burning-fossil-fuels-cools-the-planet/ Crowder takes contorted information from Breitbart and then spews it on his own website. He can, however, go to original study, read the asbtract, and find that Breitbart’s sensationalist rhetoric is just that. (Of course, he’s a climate change denier who doesn’t want to admit it, and I presume many of his fans are too because they buy into this amazing kind of journalism) Edit: It’s the Sunday Express, not Breitbart, my apologies. He’s had quite a few of these lapses in judgment.
@michaelgirgis9019
@michaelgirgis9019 6 жыл бұрын
Example #2: 
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYeygICvjsmYZsU Anybody that understands international law will tell you that the Paris Agreement has no enforcement mechanism besides shaming (which under the current shameless administration, shouldn’t be an issue).
@michaelgirgis9019
@michaelgirgis9019 6 жыл бұрын
Example #3 (Crowder strawmanning his opponent from 1:00-2:05): 
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5KZmJqjbLmLhqs He literally accuses Oliver of committing a non-sequitur and then changes the initial terms of the debate completely, it’s a work of art! I’m not an overly huge fan of John Oliver, however, it is essential not to mischaracterize your opponent’s arguments. The claim is that Scott Pruit is a liar, what is this whole Obama premise he’s setting up?
@alterego5007
@alterego5007 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Vox, your videos are getting a little too controversial... You are disagreeing and refuting Alex Jones? How courageous of you.
@likeastarbaby
@likeastarbaby 6 жыл бұрын
i'm really trying to work out what's being criticised here...that alex jones is an easy target? but its entirely relevant to this conversation...were they supposed to deliberately ignore alex jones? im confused.
@likeastarbaby
@likeastarbaby 6 жыл бұрын
that's like saying that hitler is an easy target for criticism so in a documentary about the holocaust they should avoid talking about it? hm
@alterego5007
@alterego5007 6 жыл бұрын
likeastarbaby no, they shouldn't, but they act like every criticism this kid gets is as valid as Alex Jones' hatemongering. Now I don't know whether this guy David Hogg is speaking the truth or not, because i dont really care, but whatever the case may be, this video completely misrepresents every other criticism he is getting. So as much as I dislike fox new and steven crowder for being dishonest all the time, i cant say that this video provides me with any less biased information.
@alterego5007
@alterego5007 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Mansheim what about the hundreds of millions of guns that will be as available after implementing gun laws as they are now? Don't get me wrong, I do think that guns are the problem. But it would be necessary to pull out all the guns in the market AND black market to make gun-control work like it works in every other civilized country on earth. IF there were relatively the same amount of guns in the market than there is in the UK for example, then of course gun-control laws would be for the good of all people including hunters and such who have a real practical use for guns. So please, do not call me an idiot, and try to explain me, a European, why would gun-control laws work as efficiently in America as they work in Europe? If there was a politically acceptable way, that wouldn't lead to civil war, to pull the guns away from the people that own them with no use, I would certainly support that, but just controlling additional gun purchases from now on would in my opinion be for the worse, because the black market wouldn't disappear anywhere. I repeat, I am not here to fight or anything like that, I don't even have a definite stance on American gun-control laws, but this is the conclusion that I have come to with my limited understanding, and I would be happy to change it. And by the way, I hate the American patriotism probably as much as you do, but I won't support the opposing just for sake of that.
@alterego5007
@alterego5007 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Mansheim i don't think the mass shootings are the real problem. They are a marginal issue compared to gun violence in general, statistically speaking. Of course they get the media attention and such. As to your utopistic view about gun production being stopped after federal action, it just won't happen, sadly. As long as the US has no borders, guns can be brought from Mexico, and the black market would grow even more, because the demand for guns wouldn't disappear at least in the next 50 years. So I basically think that opposing border control and supporting stricter gun-control is a contradiction.
@mr.devil9577
@mr.devil9577 3 жыл бұрын
Dude just lost a pillow fight 😂😂😂
@jamesparker8066
@jamesparker8066 5 жыл бұрын
"What's the one thing that is common in all conflict? Economics." This kid understands things better than most, he's going places.
@joecole5643
@joecole5643 5 жыл бұрын
Then why won't he debate his fellow classmate Kyle Kashuv? Reason: He would lose and he knows it.
@jamesparker8066
@jamesparker8066 5 жыл бұрын
^^^Read that response as Dwight from the office and thank me later.
@joecole5643
@joecole5643 5 жыл бұрын
I think you are talking about the tv show. I have never seen the Office.
@kyo2590
@kyo2590 Жыл бұрын
@@joecole5643 Right Wing smear machine. He doesn’t care. He doesn’t have to.
@jessetorres8738
@jessetorres8738 6 жыл бұрын
When you have to resort to insulting or threatening kids and teenagers to win an argument, either your argument is weak at best or you abandon morality and lie to make your cause appear valid.
@gabelovessales4345
@gabelovessales4345 6 жыл бұрын
Jesse Torres When you have to resort to calling all of your government opponents child murderers who "only see dollar signs" then your argument may be weak.
@AssapimasterShinikoza
@AssapimasterShinikoza 6 жыл бұрын
Who else is looking for Steven crowder to make a video response to this...¿?
@sonofmus1603
@sonofmus1603 6 жыл бұрын
AssapimasterShinikoza610392 Im ready for it 👍
@chrispacmanjones2765
@chrispacmanjones2765 6 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he will. He always debunks Vox’s videos.
@LeidenPierce
@LeidenPierce 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, I'm personally still waiting for him to own up to his BS videos on climate change but that's me...
@Certified_door_kicker
@Certified_door_kicker 6 жыл бұрын
man made climate change is arrogant myth short term ecological damages is all we are doing and we should focus on cleaning that up
@yojimbo3681
@yojimbo3681 6 жыл бұрын
"Who else is looking for Steven crowder to make a video response to this" Don't feed trolls like Crowder, who's just part of the problem.
@mimi_9473
@mimi_9473 5 жыл бұрын
5:08 me getting frustrated with my homework
@rebd00mer93
@rebd00mer93 Ай бұрын
He runs away. Thats how he beats them. He refuses to debate Colin Noir or anyone that actually KNOWS anything.
@travistravinyle4207
@travistravinyle4207 6 жыл бұрын
Anything to not focus on the police and FBI allowing this to happen and standing down.
@parikshitagarwal3778
@parikshitagarwal3778 6 жыл бұрын
What's more entertaining than the video? The stupid comments 😑
@lubu4u312
@lubu4u312 6 жыл бұрын
I mean you set the bar pretty low.
@christ880
@christ880 6 жыл бұрын
What is more entertaining is seeing people trying to defend the gun control laws
@chancedavis6216
@chancedavis6216 6 жыл бұрын
Some Dumb Meme What's even more entertaining is the fact that liberals think that if they ban guns, gun violence will disappear and we would live in a utopia and experience a Golden Age.
@DarthAwar
@DarthAwar 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed brother 100%
@rustyshackelford6834
@rustyshackelford6834 5 жыл бұрын
"David Hogg is a survivor of the Parkland Massacre" David Hogg wasn't even at the school when the shooting occurred! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqXCmImrjrmbhq8
@NachosandWhatNot
@NachosandWhatNot 4 жыл бұрын
He LITERALLY said on an interview he was NOT at the school. He literally said he biked to his house while the shooting was happening LOOK IT UP.
@wallacebell4311
@wallacebell4311 4 жыл бұрын
NachosandWhatNot Not true! David was in School during the shootings but left to go home and then he returned later that evening!!! Get a life loser!!!
@steveng6704
@steveng6704 4 жыл бұрын
Good way to change the narrative. It doesn't even matter even he wasn't at school that day. He knew people that got killed, and attended a school that was victim to a mass shooting.
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 3 жыл бұрын
David Hogg: Gun Control! 2020 Riots: *Allow me to introduce myself*
@bumperbonnie5721
@bumperbonnie5721 3 жыл бұрын
And what do you mean by more gun control. Those riots were in direct response because of aggeavated police during peaceful protests; for example, in Canada our police aren’t armed to the teeth so our protests remained peaceful and without bumps, and also we got gun control so we don’t have school shootings every weekend. 😄
@noodles5438
@noodles5438 3 жыл бұрын
Bumper Bonnie Why you turning this to Canada vs America thing? They are severely deferent countries.
@bumperbonnie5721
@bumperbonnie5721 3 жыл бұрын
@@noodles5438 Absolutely, but because people don't have access to automatic weapons (except the N.S shooter who got his weapons from America, go figure), while maintaining a large gun culture in hunting. As for turning this into a Canada vs America thing, we had our own protests that didn't turn into riots because people weren't threatening each other with guns and our police weren't armed to the teeth either.
@noodles5438
@noodles5438 3 жыл бұрын
Bumper Bonnie Like I said, different countries.
@lilbigg3581
@lilbigg3581 3 жыл бұрын
@@bumperbonnie5721 it is almost impossible for the average person to get an automatic weapon in the united states
@MarcoRosales
@MarcoRosales 6 жыл бұрын
Whether he is any of those things or not, I don't care. Im just so happy and thankful that you got Laura Ingraham REAL GOOD! Can't stand her
@quadrosglenn
@quadrosglenn 6 жыл бұрын
But her ratings improved after that by about 20%
@silvsilvsilv
@silvsilvsilv 6 жыл бұрын
J ronnn Yes, that is exactly what we should do. If they step out of line, like Ingraham did, hit them where they feel it: their wallets.
@peterthegreat996
@peterthegreat996 6 жыл бұрын
silvsilvsilv so Hogg calling adults murderers...was not out of line?
@nexus1g
@nexus1g 6 жыл бұрын
Harassing someone's check-writer to undermine their freedom of speech is asinine and should be illegal. It's using your freedom of speech to directly cause real damages to someone else, and that's immoral.
@nexus1g
@nexus1g 6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Tanuwijaya, it's absolutely out of line. That doesn't address my point, however.
@Slooneyy
@Slooneyy 6 жыл бұрын
by boycotting them 😂😂
@davilip
@davilip 6 жыл бұрын
Its a well established means of protest.
@alexcuellar484
@alexcuellar484 6 жыл бұрын
CaptainRidley OBAMA TOOK MY GUNSSSSSSS
@fl00fydragon
@fl00fydragon 6 жыл бұрын
Corum Irsei oh hello there mr idiot Last time I checked there is a word describing those who would shoot people for political purposes.
@sergpie
@sergpie 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't learn what a coyote was...
@capncrunch5729
@capncrunch5729 3 жыл бұрын
How are people getting their information from Alex Jones 🤦‍♂️
@dysongus4613
@dysongus4613 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Jones is based
@TriMs1
@TriMs1 3 жыл бұрын
@@dysongus4613 Funny.
@lavaknight3682
@lavaknight3682 3 жыл бұрын
No but see, everyone is against me! A dude on the tv is the only one who can be trusted! /s
@wepranaga
@wepranaga 6 жыл бұрын
how to deal with haters 101. what an inspiration
@jeffreymuu5451
@jeffreymuu5451 6 жыл бұрын
Abdul Ghani Ignore them and never listen to the other sides perspective. Also when being attacked use your age as a shield. I get why you guys don’t want guns but I sadly disagree with your point of view but I’m open to ideas.
@jage570
@jage570 6 жыл бұрын
communism 101
@silvsilvsilv
@silvsilvsilv 6 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Muu If the other side's perspective is "you're Hitler," then yes, you should definitely ignore them.
@wepranaga
@wepranaga 6 жыл бұрын
Jeffery Muu. they're not perspectives. they're ridicule. you said you get why people don't want guns yet you're disagree with them.
@robertsmith2300
@robertsmith2300 6 жыл бұрын
You will get a lot of hate when you try and take peoples rights away
@Icureditwithmybrain
@Icureditwithmybrain 6 жыл бұрын
Too young to be criticized but old enough to dictate laws. Makes perfect sense.
@spicyjackalope2338
@spicyjackalope2338 6 жыл бұрын
nopejpg YES OMG YES
@letempsdechat
@letempsdechat 6 жыл бұрын
criticize the policies not the person
@FerdinandZebua
@FerdinandZebua 6 жыл бұрын
I love you.
@altrag
@altrag 6 жыл бұрын
Nobody says he's too young to be criticized. What we're saying is that the right wing's name calling and fear mongering is not "criticism" its just childish tantrums. The problem for the right is that there is no real valid argument against "kids shouldn't be murdered." But they don't want to give up their guns (well, gun lobby "donations.") They can't argue it and they can't not fight it so they resort to schoolyard bullying. Like the right wing often has to do because most of their views don't hold up under actual scrutiny leaving them no option but to try to deny the validity of the scrutineer. Or to put it another way, flat earthers do a better job of defending their stupidity than Fox News and Alex Jones often do defending their so-called "conservative" values.
@yebumshit8514
@yebumshit8514 6 жыл бұрын
Low key he’s irrelevant
@georgebardsley7129
@georgebardsley7129 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh forget politics they are calling for an online bullying campaign against at high school student
@harlenscabbard8271
@harlenscabbard8271 9 ай бұрын
David Hogg is a National Hero and true American Patriot. We The People salute him for his bravery and tireless, effective activism.
@charliehammer8780
@charliehammer8780 Ай бұрын
Is this a joke? It's so hard to detect sarcasm in text. This must be a joke. It could not be serious. Good one!!! 😂
@hbreaker3698
@hbreaker3698 6 жыл бұрын
Just because you were involved in a tragedy doesn't mean you should be immune to criticism...
@jasonevans5949
@jasonevans5949 6 жыл бұрын
Leftist can’t take criticism look at the other guys comment he was triggered by your statement which was slight criticism at most. Leftist equal facist, either think like them or your a racist bigot
@blehblehblehdracula
@blehblehblehdracula 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Taylor actions dictate argument sometimes and calling for a national boycott because someone makes a stupid comment they shouldn’t have show many that his whole existence is based on “listen to me like an adult because I know Best because I survived a shooting, but don’t disagree with me because I’m a kid who survived a shooting.” We would ALL welcome his arguments if he actually had some... he mainly just demigogues people to death or curses them out for being “child murderers”.... there’s no argument...
@blehblehblehdracula
@blehblehblehdracula 6 жыл бұрын
Also, Emma Gonzalez is worlds better at this entire thing, I cannot for the life of me figure out why David Hogg is the one people latched onto when you have a girl who can literally make a point in debate by extending a moment of silence. SHE is who we need to watch. Not this boy.
@jasonevans5949
@jasonevans5949 6 жыл бұрын
B S Emma also stated this. Since he was in middle school, it was no surprise to anyone who knew him to hear that he was the shooter. Those talking about how we should have not ostracized him? You didn’t know this kid, OK? We did. They admitted to ostracizing the kid for years and they still can’t see that they pushed this kid too far.
@SkyWaterfire02
@SkyWaterfire02 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Evans the shooter was selling knives out of his backpack and was expelled for being violent and causing trouble. No wonder the other kids avoided him. Would you want your kid associating with someone like that? And even if it’s true that Emma bullied him, does that excuse the shooter? No. If you bully someone and they go out and do something stupid, you are not responsible for their behavior. You are responsible for YOUR behavior, not someone else’s.
@jenmist2035
@jenmist2035 5 жыл бұрын
“Hmm..to petty for that” I’m fan
@livewellwitheds6885
@livewellwitheds6885 2 жыл бұрын
I knew he would go places since I first saw his interview right after the event
@kordellswoffer1520
@kordellswoffer1520 2 жыл бұрын
Turned out he went to the place of irrelevant and uselessness.
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