How Part 9 Fixes JoJo's Biggest Problem

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Shonen Ouji

Shonen Ouji

Күн бұрын

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@blokvader8283
@blokvader8283 4 ай бұрын
Are you serious? Jolyne was the first main character who got serious development and an entire character arc, just continuing from there on out with the protagonists, 7, 8, and 9 are all amazingly well written
@JodaroKujo
@JodaroKujo 4 ай бұрын
Went from fuk you dad to don’t worry emporio, I got this Though I like her for many reasons
@grayboy7117
@grayboy7117 4 ай бұрын
I thought jotaro was well written too
@isidorodaviddoro1920
@isidorodaviddoro1920 3 ай бұрын
Came here to say this,dude probably hates girls for some reason since jolyne was the best written JoJo before part 7 so how is She okay?lmao
@magusperde365
@magusperde365 3 ай бұрын
​@@grayboy7117I'm sorry but hahaha what ? Jotaro is the worst of all the jojo protagonist when it comes to development
@grayboy7117
@grayboy7117 3 ай бұрын
@@magusperde365 bro he’s the most developed
@pikablu_25
@pikablu_25 4 ай бұрын
I actually love Jonathan! Hes very well written. Hes a character with a positive flat arc. He doesn't change intrinsically, but morphs the world around him for the better. Hes a paragon of good and genuinely wants to believe that there is something inside Dio worth saving. My favorite part of Jonathan is how emotional he is! He cries when he thinks he killed Dio in the mansion, again after the pluck battle, and when he dies. Regardless of everytbing that happened he still cared for Dio as his brother.
@potatofarmergyro1720
@potatofarmergyro1720 4 ай бұрын
@@pikablu_25 despite being such a positive and good person, he's actually a pretty tragic protagonist and it's kinda sad that people don't see that. I myself used to be a Jonathan hater but over the years he's really grown on me.
@pikablu_25
@pikablu_25 4 ай бұрын
@potatofarmergyro1720 oh my goodness yes!! Part one in the perspective of Jonathan is absolutely a tragedie. His fatal flaw being he is too trusting. Some kid came into Jonathans life by fate and ended it utterly. He lived a miserable life, but still chose to be a light. Its very tragic because he didnt ask for any of this, and still chose to do whats right.
@potatofarmergyro1720
@potatofarmergyro1720 4 ай бұрын
@@pikablu_25 exactly why he's the progenitor of the Joestars and why so many of his descendents decide to follow his example
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 25 күн бұрын
@@potatofarmergyro1720yea honestly even tho he’s a bit flat or stale to watch, i think hes the perfect “first” jojo
@magmasugs
@magmasugs 4 ай бұрын
bro did NOT cook with this one 💀
@potturtle366
@potturtle366 3 ай бұрын
real 😭🙏
@vidyagames0-0
@vidyagames0-0 4 ай бұрын
I agree with your takes on Jodio, he oozes potential. but besides the take that Gappy, Jolyne and really any other JoJo protagonists are boring is fucking abysmal. Each one is really unique and amazing in their own way and is written really well to an extent I don't think you realize.
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
Josuk8 is arguably Araki’s greatest Protagonist. 😂😂😂
@purkle200
@purkle200 2 ай бұрын
Gappy bored me, but he's better than Giorno.
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
@@purkle200 Josuk8 is the best written JoJo Araki has crafted so far, y’all are tweakin’ 😂😂
@purkle200
@purkle200 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyBoi-11153 Nah~
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
@@purkle200 Bro didn’t read JoJolion 😂
@M4K3believe
@M4K3believe 4 ай бұрын
Josuke8 being boring is such an abysmal take, from chapter 1 of Jojolion the mystery of his character felt so refreshing and easily kept me engaged through out the story, and his development from wanting to learn about his past to accepting that the past was never him and that he’s living rn with people who support him not the 2 in the past was beautiful, yes araki may have fumbled with the introduction of Toruu, but even than wonder of u really isn’t a bad villain, the start of the vid really through me off, and makes me question what you look for in a character and what you find “exciting” especially with the praise you gave to part 7, with Johnny honestly being one of the most 1 track character in the series
@jc_ride
@jc_ride 4 ай бұрын
Josuk8 is by far the most intricate character Araki has ever written, it's a shame JoJo fans have a very hard time... reading
@epicakoss5318
@epicakoss5318 4 ай бұрын
@@jc_ride yep :/
@potatofarmergyro1720
@potatofarmergyro1720 4 ай бұрын
Dawg you don't have to slander Johnny to praise Josuke, 2 goats can in fact coexist.
@epicakoss5318
@epicakoss5318 4 ай бұрын
@@potatofarmergyro1720 very real for this I didn't notice the detail Johnny I think is objectively better, but not one has to be better or less than the others. Just that josuke 8 is also goated.
@understand5238
@understand5238 3 ай бұрын
Gappy is the goeat
@jc_ride
@jc_ride 4 ай бұрын
Jolyne and Gappy slander = instant dislike
@2Jonny
@2Jonny 3 ай бұрын
Reading a comment hinting about Jolyne and happy slander = click off
@koopakape
@koopakape 4 ай бұрын
Boring protagonists?? The only kind of boring ones were Jotaro (who was so profoundly cool it didn't matter) and Giorno (who was pretty cool and surrounded by one of the best ensemble casts of the series). You're tripping. Though it's still good to hear part 9's lead is that good.
@geschnitztekiste4111
@geschnitztekiste4111 4 ай бұрын
I think Giorno has a neat mini-arc where he learns to be more open about his emotions, Narancia‘s death is the first time he ever cried… but yeah, Jotaro is pretty flat, which is the point so it’s cool. In Part 6 he gets a similar development, so yeah
@elielx2206
@elielx2206 23 күн бұрын
U forgot jolyne, giorno is way better than she
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 14 күн бұрын
@@elielx2206autism take. Jolyne literally the best written outta parts 1-6.
@elielx2206
@elielx2206 14 күн бұрын
@@Nothisndhdudjdjdj that does not make she a good char, she boring as hell
@1922_kinda_girl
@1922_kinda_girl 4 ай бұрын
dude most people LOVE Josuk8 because hes so well written and is one of the most interesting characters Araki ever written
@CowboyCheeseslime
@CowboyCheeseslime 4 ай бұрын
Josuk8 slander won't be tolerated
@CHB535
@CHB535 4 ай бұрын
I love part 9 so much so far. I think the vibes are definitely and Jodio feels like he’s really inspired. The difference I feel is that Jodio is the first character that doesn’t follow his “golden path” trope. He isn’t a good person. Yes, Giorno was a mafioso but let’s be fr, he’s a good guy. Jodio isn’t, he’s greedy, he sells drug and is a rather selfish person. But because of that, we as the audience are interested in seeing how he becomes the normal hero that Araki usually writes
@boa9557
@boa9557 3 ай бұрын
He’s not a normal hero
@11Krazy
@11Krazy 10 күн бұрын
I haven't read part 9 yet but your comment makes it seem like he'll go through massive character development throughout the story
@CHB535
@CHB535 10 күн бұрын
@ I feel like he has too. As he stands right now, he’s completely selfish with murky morals. A JoJo is a paragon of humanity and that’s never changed. His arc is probably gonna be about him growing into a more heroic character and changing his idea of what it means to be rich
@nahidahamed1742
@nahidahamed1742 4 ай бұрын
i feel all the jostars are unique in their own way
@Foboki
@Foboki 4 ай бұрын
Bro is on some elite crack
@joestarxshinigami4235
@joestarxshinigami4235 4 ай бұрын
Jolyne is literally one of the most well written and developed characters in the series and gabby is amazing too
@swiggydswirl330
@swiggydswirl330 4 ай бұрын
Im surprised on how people still think Jolyne is just alright. She easily is the best Joestar for me
@rocketcat086
@rocketcat086 4 ай бұрын
Ngl alot of people probably speed read pt6 to get to pt7 . And Netflixes goofy release schedule definitely didn't help
@isidorodaviddoro1920
@isidorodaviddoro1920 3 ай бұрын
​@@rocketcat086JoJo part 6 is too underrated just like it's main protagonist jolyne that is one of the best written JoJo out there whose actions and development make sense
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 25 күн бұрын
@@rocketcat086see i read part 7&8 while waiting for stone ocean to come out, after the first anime batch i couldn’t wait and read the rest and took my time doing it and it was great
@potatofarmergyro1720
@potatofarmergyro1720 4 ай бұрын
I completely disagree with your take on Josuke
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
Nigga said Josuk8 was one the most boring protagonists in JoJo 😂😂😂 Bros smoking 🚬 crack
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 14 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyBoi-11153josuke was just that fuckin dude. Erybody know someone chill thats a big brother type personality and i think thats the point kf him. I love him ngl
@existentialhorror2218
@existentialhorror2218 4 ай бұрын
All Jojo mcs are brilliant for different reasons I think ^^
@existentialhorror2218
@existentialhorror2218 4 ай бұрын
What I don't understand is, you make great arguments why Jodio is great, but you don't really elaborate on why you don't like some of the other jojos
@ChadBenjamin
@ChadBenjamin 3 ай бұрын
Jolyne is easily the best protagonist from the OG Universe.
@m.g5384
@m.g5384 3 ай бұрын
Laugh in joseph tommy gun. Laugh in Same type as star platinium . Laugh in fixing spaghetti . Muda. -Jonatha- no, not you .
@ChadBenjamin
@ChadBenjamin 3 ай бұрын
@m.g5384 How is "Muda" a better character lmao, Bucciarati and Mista felt like the main characters of Part 5.
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
@@ChadBenjamin Joseph Joestar and Part 2 as a whole is one the most overhyped things about the series. Part 2 was Mid af
@ChadBenjamin
@ChadBenjamin 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyBoi-11153 True. Part 1 is better than Part 2 in the manga. The anime did 1 dirty and really elevated 2.
@m.g5384
@m.g5384 2 ай бұрын
I think you guys are watching Joe crazy journey sory I was talking about smth else cause no way you guys have that much bad taste I will give you the benefit of the doubt
@coolshockbt
@coolshockbt 4 ай бұрын
yeah, this guy clearly hasn't watched/read anything past va
@mihnwq9211
@mihnwq9211 3 ай бұрын
Under the mayo ahhhh opinion. Never let bro talk about jojo again 🙅🙅🙅🙅🙅🙅🙅
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
Bro lost all credibility when he said Gappy was one of the most boring protagonists of the series… 😂😂😂
@1922_kinda_girl
@1922_kinda_girl 4 ай бұрын
30 seconds into the vids and im already pissed off Araki doesn’t have boring protagonist at best you could say Johnathan is the only one
@JodaroKujo
@JodaroKujo 4 ай бұрын
This part has me sleeping like Patrick I’m going back to rewatching Part 3 for the 35th time
@mikemutant9083
@mikemutant9083 4 ай бұрын
Nobody thought that this was a problem lol.
@MAMZYY_YT
@MAMZYY_YT 4 ай бұрын
To be honest... I haven't caught up to part 9 yet (only read chapter 1), but as a massive fan of part 5 , it sounds like part 9 is shaping up to become potetntially Araki's best work
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 13 күн бұрын
But fr "November Rain" is such a cool name for a stand for the final jojo
@tokyobandz3307
@tokyobandz3307 4 ай бұрын
Im not sure about that take on jolyne lol
@vito_sauce260
@vito_sauce260 2 ай бұрын
The opions u have on Jojo being boring and the parts you like are not shared with everyone. Regardless i like them all but part 8 is deff my favorite
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 13 күн бұрын
Also it needs to be said that Araki did a fucking amazing job in part 7 with taking away hype from diego and dio in general and outting that on Johnny and Gyro The fact that the alternate form of Dio doesn't get as much hype as Johnny or Gyro is a major success for part 7, as it makes sure that it's not just dio's story He was confortable enough to put the world in as well, which still doesn't get as much hype as you'd expect
@The14Core
@The14Core Күн бұрын
Diego being dead for over a century now, not sure how that would link to Jodio who's over 100 years passed steel ball run
@nicobane
@nicobane 3 ай бұрын
didn't even go into the kitchen with this one
@RACH90810
@RACH90810 3 ай бұрын
Jodio want to undo his atrocities.
@Dragunhn
@Dragunhn Ай бұрын
7:30 I just noticed wasn't dios first goal to become the richest in the world lol
@Ammanuelle
@Ammanuelle 4 ай бұрын
Giorno definitely was not a boring MC🤧
@ZQuago
@ZQuago 2 ай бұрын
That's insane! Boring protagonists? Jotaro for sure and the crew definitely carries Golden Wind but that's it
@EndrVersace
@EndrVersace 23 күн бұрын
literally how do you consider Jolyne and Josuk8 boring characteres when if anything their development as characters is by far some of the best stuff Araki has ever written???
@mandimbatop7348
@mandimbatop7348 16 күн бұрын
Bro took "gas" from around the corner then made this video
@C052-ip9zs
@C052-ip9zs 4 ай бұрын
funky
@TheEcoolarg
@TheEcoolarg 3 ай бұрын
I feel like most Jojo protagonist arent interesting if taken just by their description, their actions in the story per say sements what we truthly think about them. I see characters like Giorno the same as villans as Tooru, Ok I get you but you are still boring Jodio in particular feels more like the original dio than any other character, he is aware he is mess up and unlike Dio didnt had the excuses of living in abuse. Personally I want the main villan of the part to be Jodio himself betraying everything to become filthy rich, but I doubt people would let a Jojo be a real villan.(tho gappy will probably comeback as one tho)
@akward3108
@akward3108 4 ай бұрын
Agree to disagree but ye jojolands is cool
@RACH90810
@RACH90810 4 ай бұрын
Jodio is the General.
@GoatLuffy_97
@GoatLuffy_97 4 ай бұрын
Jojolands is already several times more engaging and compelling for me than Jojolion. The cast is the best ensemble since Part 5. The only thing I'm trying to get used to is monthly Jojo chapters. I binged the anime, Steel Ball Run, and Jojolion.
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 13 күн бұрын
Jodio is an amazing protagonist He is cool as shit He talks a lot He is a literal psychopath With an interesting af backstory But this is not to say that other protagonists don't have good characters I love Gappy's character, maybe more than Johnny's as well Josuke just doesn't give a fuck and that's cool as shit Also I have a hard time putting Jodio over Joseph and og Josuke, two of the most well-defined characters in the show Right now as a character I'd put Jodio 100% over Giorno and Jonathan It become more unclear with Jolyne Johnny and Gappy but i think he ranks above them I know there's a meme of Jotaro being cardboard but genuinely he has a great character He's the embodiment of badass so rn I'd put jodio like right below or at the same level as Jotaro But ain't no way bro is coming even close to Josuke and Joseph just yet Edit: also to clear up i dont hate Johnny's character but imo he only works as a duo, but when he is in a duo he's PERFECT Just on his own i wouldn't put him above Gappy because I genuinely love how Gappy is on his own But he's 100% above Jolyne And who knows maybe I need to reread part 7 to remember better
@deazee2288
@deazee2288 4 ай бұрын
you got a point but Jojo's biggest problem isn't that the protagonist is boring, it's that Araki being hellbent on killing dogs
@geschnitztekiste4111
@geschnitztekiste4111 4 ай бұрын
That pretty much stopped in early Part 4
@deazee2288
@deazee2288 4 ай бұрын
@@geschnitztekiste4111 idk man that rock dog from part 8 looked pretty "exploded into a fountain of gore" to me
@potturtle366
@potturtle366 3 ай бұрын
@@deazee2288the purpose of it is to show the evil of those who do it. notice how its always a villain/antagonist? hes using the fact that killing a dog is seen as one of the worst things to emphasize how evil and despicable these villans are
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 25 күн бұрын
Problem? Thats a pro not a con fam. Also ngl for me the biggest flaw would be when araki creates a power, immediately realizes its to broken, and then either retcon the power to something else or they just never use that ability again. It happens all the time in jojos and its the only thing that REALLY bothers me about the series. Examples are giornos damage reflection, gappys plunder, hell when valentine is first introduced his stand works in a completely different way then what it ends up being, it was basically a different power that got retconed because it was generally to confusing
@jamestinaco2298
@jamestinaco2298 24 күн бұрын
So, people love morally grey JoJo protagonist because they challenge the stereotypical goody-two-shoes of the modern protagonist? Heck Yea!
@j.g1885
@j.g1885 3 ай бұрын
STOP GLAZING LIL BRO
@Lord_NieR
@Lord_NieR Ай бұрын
Im just happy to see a video thats positive about part9 bc most stuff i see is negativ
@agrijalba92
@agrijalba92 4 ай бұрын
Uhh what about Johnny? O.O
@digitalfunnies
@digitalfunnies Ай бұрын
Ur right but ppl can’t handle it
@IOSARBX
@IOSARBX 4 ай бұрын
Shonen Ouji, nice video keep up the great content
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed the video.
@Deathy75
@Deathy75 Ай бұрын
Do we really have a say in what the authors do with their work?
@alexthegs2624
@alexthegs2624 Ай бұрын
I absolutely do not agree with this guy over jolyne and gappy but like, no but we can voice our opinions on it??
@Deathy75
@Deathy75 Ай бұрын
@alexthegs2624 honestly opinions aren't worth anything if they can't affect the result in the end
@trenza2566
@trenza2566 3 ай бұрын
SONG NAME?
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 4 ай бұрын
I haven't started Part 9 yet, so I'm commenting for the algorithm, also from what you put in the description, I disagree
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Sam! Definitely recommend catching up because the chapters are great so far
@isidorodaviddoro1920
@isidorodaviddoro1920 4 ай бұрын
Giorno is a boring protagonist and i don't see how people can say otherwise, fortunately jolyne,josuke and Joseph are good
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 4 ай бұрын
@isidorodaviddoro1920 I will admit Giorno is near the bottom compared to how interesting, cool, or great the rest are, but still like the dude mostly for his motivations and powers
@SamTheGumMan117
@SamTheGumMan117 4 ай бұрын
@@ShonenOuji Will do and watch later after the catch up
@isidorodaviddoro1920
@isidorodaviddoro1920 4 ай бұрын
@@SamTheGumMan117 i like giorno design and drip
@GabrielL-r8z
@GabrielL-r8z 3 ай бұрын
Nah bro the biggest problem is jotaros part 3 hat y the hair?
@THEdemetrishigashikata
@THEdemetrishigashikata 3 ай бұрын
"Im interested in seeing how Jodio connects to Dio" bro just cant let him go and be his own character
@emperorcringe-son4023
@emperorcringe-son4023 2 ай бұрын
Elaborate on jos8 because i recon hes the best written character in jojolion
@JohnnyBoi-11153
@JohnnyBoi-11153 2 ай бұрын
Bros talking out of his ass 😂😂 Josuk8 is the most well-written protagonist that Araki has crafted so far…
@yurimessano9491
@yurimessano9491 4 ай бұрын
ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA!!!!!!!!!
@Typicalanimefan
@Typicalanimefan 4 ай бұрын
Reminder to keep up the good work even if your videos don’t get the amount of views you were hoping for 👍love your vids man
@il3fortunato664
@il3fortunato664 4 ай бұрын
FFFFFUCK YESSSSS!!!!! More JoJo Content 😍🗿
@andrerodrigues1997
@andrerodrigues1997 16 күн бұрын
This is the weirdest take ive ever seen
@JosephJoestar-ux7nr
@JosephJoestar-ux7nr 2 күн бұрын
Oog yourself
@Chaxzer
@Chaxzer 3 ай бұрын
As soon as the bro said part 2 is overlated I left the video this is a trash video
@Demon1cDeath
@Demon1cDeath 3 ай бұрын
Man this stinks
@eekka117
@eekka117 2 ай бұрын
Big talk, you're just spouting nonsense.
@WhawkinsMW
@WhawkinsMW 4 ай бұрын
Part 2 overrated?!?! NANI?!?!?!?!!!!!!??
@minibobo1075
@minibobo1075 4 ай бұрын
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@darksideishere
@darksideishere 2 ай бұрын
Bro, this fanbase cannot accept opinions. In any case, I mostly agree with you but I do like other protagonists except for Josuke8. I pretend that part didn't exist. It started out strong but by the end, I absolutely hated it. It has entertainment value for sure but not the best writing.
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj
@Nothisndhdudjdjdj 14 күн бұрын
Part 8 just had such an ass ending, and it has so many dropped plot points it feels unsatisfying overall. Also joshu should have died brutally i hate him
@synthnsoul369
@synthnsoul369 4 ай бұрын
First 🎉
@ShonenOuji
@ShonenOuji 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
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