How PopularMMOs Ruined His Life (ft.

[@toastify_]

tom the type of guy to collab with toastify

[@static_not_here]

Toastify, can I just ask - what do you honestly think of Pat? Like, what is your subjective opinion on him?

[@Squid_Salad]

​@@static_not_herehey yall, toastify here

[@jennygholson]

Nice 👍 one ☝️

[@NappaCalle]

Tom the type of guy to float in the air when he smells a pie

[@socatoansoldier9984]

@@NappaCalle he just like me for real 🥺

[@JibsWashere]

It makes you Realize that DanTDM and Stampy are the only ones who had a happy ending.

[@person_on_the_internet_]

And captain sparkles

[@DaACTUALLYREALReddie]

Don’t forget about PewDiePie.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

just because you aren't in the limelight for all of eternity doesn't mean your life is over and you got the "bad ending". I'm sure pat is happier not making minecraft videos. You need to grow up

[@bruhgod123]

@@DaACTUALLYREALReddie pewdiepie was never really a minecraft youtuber

[@dennisonthachil]

​@@bruhgod123he single handed revived minecraft for a period of time

[@LaterXavier-TX]

Love the double outro. Great collab.

[@JakeArtist13]

Bro I grew up with Pat and Jen, I stopped watching and paying attention to his channel a few months after their divorce, It’s so sad to hear how far he has fallen

[@uwo1331]

He hasn't fallen he's innocent. Listen to his pod casts he's still happy.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@@uwo1331 people like this will only think happiness comes from tons of views and money. It's pointless to argue with people with sunnyv2 syndrome.

[@TeeloTheH0neyBee]

Out of all the MInecraft KZbinrs most of us early 2000's kids grew up on, Pat was MY guy. I would spend hours a day watching him and Jen play lucky blocks or fight in the arena. It was sad enough when I had found out long after watching them that they got divorced, but all the stuff after was a major gutpunch. I really do hope he and Jen can move on from all this stuff and be better off. Though lucky block Vs. Eleni and EX wife Jen sure is a title 😭

[@Toastygameblaster]

bro just doxxed pat within the first few mins

[@Jiaeme]

I really thought this was going to be PopularMMOs slowly becoming irrelevant. I was wrong holy shit

[@MothGuyz-]

Real

[@benjboiplays5403]

Oh god I’m not ready for this my childhood 😔

[@Garfdup007]

nah that dude became insane

[@Destined2BeKing]

@@Garfdup007It’s crazy how hes insane yet still better off than 80% of childhood minecraft youtubers😭

[@uwo1331]

​​@@Garfdup007how is he insane the dudes smart as hell he legitimately hasn't lost a single ounce of bread cause he's preserving that easily. And he isn't in a bad situation he's happy now & innocent so its kinda insane how people take this at face value.

[@HopefulBlue]

I wish yall covered Pat's YT career, his relationship with Jen, and why the audience enjoyed Pat and Jen's dynamic during the first half of the video more in depth (2015-2018), it would have given more of an impact to the conclusion of the video if yall showed more of the good times before Pat's fall. I enjoyed the coverage in the later half of the video tho.

[@astralguardian5930]

Yeah, I think that should be the big thing that destroyed the channel and probably slowly drove Pat to the lows he hit. The PopularMMO channel was basically built on Pat and Jen's personality and dynamics. And for the good 10-12 years people enjoyed it and stuck around for the antics and the duo playing off each other. When they divorced both IRL and in the content that's when most the problems started showing. The views went down because the people who really enjoyed the dynamic didn't really get the same spark from the new GF or the collaborations with other MC KZbinrs, and when the views went down Pat lost some of the spark for making content, and then the coffin was finally laid to rest when Pat got arrested. It was a great channel and definitely a part of a lot of people's childhood/teenage life and it was sad to see it go, but every peak has it's valley and that valley was too much for Pat to handle, it broke him in the fall.

[@daintyshart]

Def agree

[@uwo1331]

Wished they didn't try to spread other sources of misinformation tho

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Why would they do that? Positivity doesn't sell. Besides this is clearly a hit piece by two slimeball creators.

[@pasupare]

@@bungiecrimes7247 the video wouldnt have been positive regardless??? op is literally saying the extra context wouldve better shown just how bad the fall really was what are we not understanding 😭

[@Mistertbones]

Ever since his divorce to Jen, Pat's life has gone downhill. That being said, I'm glad that Jen is doing well, and is enjoying motherhood.

[@DefeatedElite]

Nah she deserves to be thrown away tbh

[@staringcorgi6475]

Great that jen married a man instead of a manchild which was pat since he’s immature

[@HEELEO]

I'm sure he could've been a good a parent too, most people aren't really ready for kids

[@thornlilyn6888]

Honestly I haven't seen much about Jen so it's good to hear she is having a good life now and loving life. Kinda weird to say but Jen is the reason I got into poplarMMOs as I loved her bubbly personality.

[@randomspots1706]

@@staringcorgi6475 not wanting a kid is not immature-

[@zeNate]

didn't popularmmos put his 3d minecraft intro in his breakup video

[@toastify_]

I wish, but no. It's an edit

[@zeNate]

@@toastify_ my whole day is ruined after receiving this information, my whole week just shattered

[@GunaMask]

​@@zeNate LOL

[@deesnyder8201]

@@zeNate spring break is RUINED for me now

[@quiraz2]

its good look at his new vids

[@valzicplayz3845]

Seems like after Jen broke up with him because he refused to have kids for how old he is. It seems like Eleni really destoryed him the most with the constant harassment and false allegations. I dont think the internet or gaming is what destoryed him, but his divorce and how Eleni was just a terrible human to not help him recover from that depression and made it worse.

[@destroyerofmorons]

NO! The fuck does how old he is have to do with anything? THAT HAS LITERALLY *NOTHING!* TO DO WITH *ANYTHING!!!*

[@valzicplayz3845]

@@destroyerofmorons Bot account dares to comment?

[@KAY5IV5_5]

@@destroyerofmorons nobody cares

[@SkylarThompson-mu1qs]

@@valzicplayz3845 So you think MMOS is a good person?

[@valzicplayz3845]

@SkylarThompson-mu1qs I never said he was but you can tell after his break up with the first girl, the other 2 girls just ruined him with the 2nd doing the most damage out of the 2.

[@CheeseWarford]

"ELENI AND EX WIFE VS ME" is crazy

[@luvbug2079]

actually insane

[@namehellnaa8968]

@@luvbug2079 why

[@thugsquito]

Toastify's the type of guy that's gonna have a few comments starting with "Tom's the type of guy..."

[@jadenr_11]

i used to love jen and pat playing roblox/minecraft but good things dont last forever.. dang i didnt realize how bad pat messed up

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

He was proven innocent recently.

[@uwo1331]

He was actually innocent.

[@jadenr_11]

@@uwo1331 ik

[@malvinyct2544]

​@@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh yo is there any KZbin video that discusses that? I need to watch it

[@YUBuliMi]

@@malvinyct2544 no because all these comentary youtubers only show bad this video didnt even mention how happy pat is right now in his podcast and tiktoks with his friend mike

[@GalaxyDoge72]

as they say: the higher you are, the harder you fall.

[@bringbackthedislikecount6767]

Dantdm would like to have a word with you

[@droson8712]

I just think he shouldn't have publicized his personal life after breaking up with Jen

[@NightWolf4223]

This story is so sad. I had a rare opportunity to play with jen and pat before they got popular. Loved these not a fan of mine craft but pat and jen made it awesome. Me and my brother use to watch popular mmos good times.

[@Anthony20603]

This is probably the first video covering this situation that believes pat is an abuser, cuz almost every other instance people say dudes ex was lying the whole time or both parties were at fault. Anyways Its sad to see the drastic change both jen and pats life took, i wonder how different everything wouldve turned out if pat agreed or also wanted to have a child, cuz christ after the breakup it was all downhill until he chilled out and started his podcast

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

They just suggested it, although it did seem kinda biased.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh clearly a hit piece. I mean not only is negativity better for views but also TurkeyTom isn't the most reliable of guys.

[@TheSourOnion]

@@bungiecrimes7247 I agree, he loves stirring shit up to create a twist in his narrative

[@mafuyus_empty_fishtank12]

I watched them a lot when i was a child, it was sad to hear about all of this. someone you grew up watching seeing them become a worse and worse person just hurts.

[@motichel]

He was proven innocent btw

[@YUBuliMi]

he is happy with his life right now

[@mrfalleo]

My intuition, says something about his ex, is extremely suspicious. based on the events, and statements the chance is high that pat was abusive but his girlfriend is a higher chance. mainly, because the alcoholism related to pat and her mental health issues based her ptsd and bpd, and drug use. and the reason pat has low odds, is based on jens statement and his personality. and if he were abusing cloud, why did Jen leave cloud there?

[@motichel]

He was proven innocent

[@mrfalleo]

@@motichel well then I am right.

[@PointsofData]

​@@motichel A very cursory Google search, since I don't really know where to look and no one's mentioning the evidence in specifics, comes up saying charges were dropped. Not neccessarily that he was innocent. Charges are often dropped in DV cases with way more evidence for various personal and emotional reasons so I hardly consider this a win for him...unless there is actual evidence of his innocence out there, but again no one's saying specifically what it is.

[@greywolf7422]

@@PointsofData Mayde, but rumors of what happened during said case will just muddy the waters, I think people should treat the scenario as an open-ended question, leaving it as tragic drama. The court of law exists at it is for a reason.

[@jackofastora8962]

@@PointsofData From what I recall there was no actual verified proof that he was abusive; that in conjunction with the charge being dropped leads to the conclusion that he most likely just wasnt

[@128pResolution]

Tom is the type of guy to have a feature on another creator’s video.

[@vastowen4562]

I dunno. Pat seems like a highly emotional guy, evidenced by his response to Eleni and everything that happened with Liz. By his ten year relationship with Jen, unless something drastically changed, I don't think he's likely to be an abuser. I just think it's more likely he and Liz are terrible for each other, and need to get away, or maybe just Liz needs professional mental help and is not ready for a relationship. I could be biased though. It's terrible how everyone can see his life just get flushed down the toilet because of this. I used to watch him and Jen a long time ago when I was a kid. It makes me reflect on myself too, because I've dated women not dissimilar to Liz. Not abusive, but not... right, you know? My first girlfriend, my first love, cheated on me with my friend's brother and then dragged me down for months before ending it. She had her own issues and own struggles that I won't go into, but she had massive mental health problems because of it. I didn't date for years after that. I just recently got strung along by another girl with massive mood swings for months who would send signals, say she likes me etc but then not want to go on a date and fuck random guys at parties. Some days she was happy and bubbly and some days she could give a fuck. I recently got out of her shadow, but it still hurts. I need better standards and self esteem, clearly.

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

Good job at least giving them a chance man your a great partner for trying

[@dwnturn]

Hits close to home. First love cheated and I spiraled, almost threw my whole life away. I get it, having been an emotional guy in an absurdly toxic, codependant relationship. Ultimately, I forgave her as I saw everything she was dealing with mentally, and acknowledged my own faults. Although i do still talk to women and have them show interest, I also haven't gotten into a new relationship in the years since for the same reasons and find myself ghosting them within a few days. Nowadays, It's hard or even impossible to see or envision myself getting into a relationship ever again, getting married, having kids-even if I want to, while I used to dream of having someone I could share my life with and start a family with. It's a crazy feeling, I really get you. Keep your head up man

[@SkylarThompson-mu1qs]

@@dwnturn I think you need therapy and to find better people.

[@dwnturn]

@@SkylarThompson-mu1qs nah wtf lmfao Im good

[@princessfetus]

Okay Toastify I see you getting out there. Keep it up king.

[@ermlmao]

Toastify the type of guy to talk about old KZbinrs for half an hour with Turkey Tom

[@thesardonicrenegade]

Pat was proven innocent btw

[@Beefstudios_official]

I hate that people that say he's innocent are either denied or ignored. I agree with you.

[@redtailarts101]

Can you please link to the proof of innocence? I'd like to believe Pat isn't this kind of person.

[@thesardonicrenegade]

no@@redtailarts101

[@Et3rnal_Shackl3s]

​​@@redtailarts101then believe it, nothing stops you.

[@NatetheNintendofan]

If u say he is criminal your gonna be hunted by Herobrine in real life I'm 16 btw ​@@redtailarts101

[@mojorandomness]

it really was sad seeing pat’s downfall, he was one of the most influential parts of my childhood and it really breaks my heart seeing him now from what he was

[@dragon_ninja_2186]

Wow. The last time I heard of Pat was the football field incident. Shame to see things only go downhill from there.

[@No-OneSpecial000]

pat returned for a bit and uploaded a few podcasts, he hasn’t uploaded in 3 months but seems to be doing so much better now

[@jetstream_sam69420]

He was proven innocent

[@456Vr]

@@No-OneSpecial000he was areasted again I heard

[@No-OneSpecial000]

@@456Vr dang

[@Jusmineromen]

@@No-OneSpecial000 apparently he was caught and arrested with weed, not sure if that is true tho

[@djinnspalace2119]

iconic duo. time to toast some turkeys.

[@jamessunne9131]

Turkey sandwich

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Ah the legendary agents of misinformation.

[@MoGumbo_]

@@bungiecrimes7247 Turkey tom is the mega agent of misinformation

[@KAY5IV5_5]

@@bungiecrimes7247definitely my favorite

[@АлександърЖарков]

Pat has another channel where he does podcasts with his friend, he stopped uploading there idk why exactly, but I think he is doing fine in personal life and said he has a new gf in one of the episodes.

[@uwo1331]

Yeah he mentions in community posts that he knew how to increase his money through correct investments.

[@THECABLEMAN]

im surprised that literally know one seems to know about it at all

[@zenith5361]

@@THECABLEMANfr bro. everybody saying that pat is helpless and ruined, yet he said himself that he is having the time of his life

[@bullencarker]

Toasty Tom the type of guys to make a collab video about popularmmos

[@FirstNameLastNameAName]

Is there a joke here idk about? I've seen like three of these comments...

[@bullencarker]

@@FirstNameLastNameAName turkey tom the typea guy to eat scented candles and become infertile

[@FirstNameLastNameAName]

@@bullencarker halp

[@DraaktheGoblin]

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[@SeanAlegator]

Pretty much this video is focused on Pat's relationship with Liz, but I wanna delve into both Liz and Eleni. Both Liz and Eleni had bizarre stories about Pat. Eleni had no abuse from Pat, but she used Liz's stories to make it look like she never made a mistake in her life and that Pat abused her. Eleni had pictures of men on her Twitter, whether it'd be her friends or even relationships she had been through. Liz, on the other hand, posted tiktoks about the drugs she took and the wounds she received from Pat. However, even though the reports say Pat had a knife, she never received any sort of cuts whatsoever. To make matters worse for Liz's reputation, she went back to Pat and cheated on him a lot of times even after all the crap she went through because of his "abuse." This proves that she lied about her situation over a year and tried to gaslight many viewers about her injuries while one of her exes came on one of the KZbin comments saying that Liz is horrible. In conclusion, both Liz and Eleni blew it and should've known the consequences of dating and backstabbing a popular KZbinr with a toxic fanbase. Eleni refused to own up to her mistakes and tried using other people's stories to cover up her past. While Liz did infact get the word out about physical abuse. However, she missed out on an important aspect besides that, and that's mental abuse. She ignored that, and it made people to refuse fo believe her garbage stories of lies, and it turned out to be nothing but a selfish antic by her as a cash grab from Pat's wallet. And speaking of Pat's fanbase, most of them are no better than Eleni and Liz. While they may have gone into lying about Pat to protect their selfish asses, they've constantly jumped into the comments section, doxxing them and even wishing death on them, which is insane. Wrapping up on the argument, both Eleni and Liz made their mountain, and all that they will see of it is to collapse. They made their bed and now had to lie in it for the rest of their lives, with detractors still chasing them.

[@Decaying_bacon]

I think its bull honestly, innocent until proven guilty

[@Funnynick]

agreed

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

Yeah, it's bs when people instantly climb to assumptions and take suggestions as fact. This man could be innocent and we are ruining it further and further by constantly accusing him, accusations should not be taken lightly but they should not instantly be believed either only when defenitive evidence is shown.

[@narlowemcfarlowe2952]

what is it with bipolar women being huge liars anyways?

[@uwo1331]

And he was innocent he speaks about it in podcasts and everything

[@j.jonahjoestar7924]

The last girl had many mental health issues, those kinds of people often drag you down in relationships. You should take any accusations made by her with a tablespoon of salt.

[@Sarcastic-brainwash]

toast is the type of guy to be friends with someone who lies about situations in commentary's

[@cats9994]

that was one time tho wasnt it? his content has gotten a lot better since

[@Booty_Warrior]

@@cats9994You can be forgiven for you past misdeeds but they can’t be forgotten. That’s life, get over it. It’s like that saying build 1000 bridges be known as a bridge builder, f a dog, be known as a dog fer for the *rest of your life. *autocorrected to feast for some reason lol

[@cats9994]

@@Booty_Warrior ik they can't be forgotten that wasn't the point

[@TheCanaaniteUnionist]

And also be a hypocrite for condemning Cosmodore’s gr00ming towards his victim but not Turkey Tom’s actions towards her.

[@Sarcastic-brainwash]

​@@TheCanaaniteUnionistrealness

[@shorg984]

a video about a guy ruining his own life, collabing with someone who wrongfully tried to ruin someone else's life?

[@ranarman5866]

No Pat didn't ruin his life for anyone asking He's doing well He's recovering Yeah he had a bumpy start but he's in a better state His relationship with Jen is still healthy They left on good terms, and not because of a toxic relationship He's still very rich and financially stable Just because his content has ended doesn't mean he's not doing well, it's stupid Stop comparing him to DanTDM or other KZbinrs It's time to grow up and move on, they have separate lives now

[@shadowhunter1934]

The thing is pat has been ima horrible situation with woman someone like Jen was hard to find and I believe he has been broken because of the people he has been around and had mental breakdowns with the issues in going to jail if I were pat I would strive to just try to make videos and be with friends don’t rely on others and I hope he can find a woman to treat him right and to have him go back to being healthy that’s what he needs

[@shadowhunter1934]

Is he innocent by any means no but name a person that is he seems like a genuinely nice person and helped raise a generation by making great content for us to enjoy I believe in the right instances with a healthy relationship and environment I believe he can be a pillar of what a KZbinr should be

[@amusician644]

I still re watch his older vids for nostalgia sometimes. When I watch some of them I could still remember what I was doing and where I was when I first watched them.

[@aleckplayz7383]

I know right. It feels so far back then. I remember my time back in beijing I spent the entire night munching on some lays chip and finishing the minecraft story mode.

[@gamerwolffang2722]

I loved Pat, and Jen they where my introduction to youtube culture, and seeing them divorce was heart breaking, and him dating Eleni all of us knowing she was no good in real time, then Pat telling us to stop hating only to see a few month later the whole Pat vs Eleni tobacle was heart reaching for me, but seeing Jen be happy with a husband, and baby was a nice duality

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

I used to like this guy even though his content was kinda cringey. It's really sad how often childhood youtubers just turn out to be horrible. It happens way too often for comfort.

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

So often they end up ruining themselves and its sad.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

tf did he do that was horrible exactly?

[@humanoidshrek5524]

@@bungiecrimes7247did you finish this video?

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@humanoidshrek5524 this guy worded it very strangely but he did it so it's not an up right accusation. Slimy for a youtuber like this. You fell for his hit piece and it took what he suggested as facts.

[@yoahnoah9780]

he was proven innocent dont trust this guy hes using outdated information from a year ago

[@zacharywelsh6131]

Call me dumb, call me whatever, but I believe Pat that he is the innocent/most innocent party between him and Liz. Edit: For context, I mean overall. Not exclusively the chasing part.

[@coIette]

??? a third person saw him chasing her down yet you still think he’s innocent

[@zacharywelsh6131]

@@coIette She saw no knife. And that’s one instance. I mean more about everything else between him and Liz.

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

@@coIette They both lied.

[@uwo1331]

He's been proven innocent.

[@uwo1331]

​@@coIettethis 3rd person was outed as a liar.

[@uwo1331]

Why spread misinformation just to fill your wallet. Go outside.

[@RTSfan-ee5lt]

Huh…?

[@ascallednobody]

It's observations or what happened already

[@Matt_Fanta]

Imagine pat caved in and had a child with jen..

[@izxodii]

Maybe his life wouldn’t have had as much trauma- or he’d add more to Jens. Hhhh

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

Yeah really he just had to make the one selfish choice for her and he would be set for life or it could have gone horribly if either pat or Jen resents the other for the decision that would suck

[@bomberdawesome]

Selfish way to think about it from both Pat and Jens perspective. If you really think they only reason Pat and Jen divorced is because of Pat didn't want kids, your mistaken. Also, if Pat doesn't want a kid, he shouldn't need to have one. Maybe Pat felt like he would've ready to be a parent. What if their kid grew up in an unhappy home. Pat made the wise decision. Also, think about Jen. She is seemingly happier now then she was with Pat, and she has a beautiful family.

[@rendismowerto2481]

He probably wouldn't be happy, but he'd definitely be better off than what he's going through now

[@Big_Boss4269]

Jen is now happily remarried with a kid.

[@nickyeet4683]

ok?

[@icestar981]

This is a video that has been done many times you haven’t added value to anything on this topic

[@Funnynick]

Man if I had three wishes one would be to make their marriage work out and they had children of their own

[@ChromaBiscuit]

Wasn't pat proven innocent.

[@ProtocolAbyss]

He was

[@kusaribruh]

iconic collaboration iconic content. keep up the great work toastify

[@w2cky400]

I feel like jen was the woman that had stopped pat from doing anything like this. Then in came the girlfriends.

[@artsyhoodies]

Oh my god. I grew up with this man, watching his videos back in the day before I got more into commentary channels. It feels so weird knowing how far most of my childhood KZbinrs fell. At least my favorites, DanTDM and Stampy, got happy endings. It just feels so weird, watching the downfall of so many people I held on pedestals as a kid.

[@peety0792]

Please do a video one the pizza tower cheesed up mod drama next its such a big rabbit hole

[@homunculus7]

The world Part was that Jen was not preassuring him to have kids then and there, She just meant some point in the future she wanted to be a mother and Pat just couldnt say yes despite all knowing one day he would definetly not mind a kid, financialy he was more then stable, had a great home and a great support system but some childish part of him was intent on never wanting a family with Jen despite knowing it was her ultimate wish to be a mom and he was head over heels in love with her and im sure Jen would not have asked him to stop recording and working on the channel or his Gym cause she was that understanding of who she married.

[@waifu_png_pl6854]

theres nothing childish about knowing what you do and dont want in life. he didnt string jen along on false promises, he said he didnt want kids, ended the relationship. whats wrong with that? would you rather have someone who never wanted kids be an absent parent?

[@acedynamics7746]

What is wrong with him he had a wife he had a successful career he had wealth famous notoriety and he could have had a family but he threw it all away

[@waifu_png_pl6854]

he just didnt want kids, its not hard to understand

[@linguine4500]

​​@@waifu_png_pl6854That was fine... but he's to blame for stupidly getting arrested

[@IDunnoAtAlll]

He didn't ruin his life he just had a dark turn in his life. He came back atleast, it was cool. I don't know if it is real that he hit his girlfriend (Jen) but this one idk. To be honest we shouldn't go to theories but to facts like real facts. Fuck man I fell asleep during the police report, fuck him drunk is bad.

[@trooper942]

I don't care just please let me live in my fantasy world where nothing after 2019 happened

[@ArizonaChuggar]

Pat ended up being innocent after being in a few bad relationships with Eleni who was actively lying where pat did have messages proving her wrong and then Liz was a little cray cray. Pat now has a podcast and it’s a little unhinged and it is actually concerning that a random guy chased him with a flame thrower.

[@Mister_Doodles]

what a banger collab, hope to see more of this

[@AceProjectHybrid]

It's hard to believe that I live in a timeline where two of many of my personal enjoyable documentary titans collab together and make an interesting but one Hell of a video. As for the topic, it's destructive knowing that a channel I watched as a kid had such controversy and unfortunate events. Glad Jen got everything she wanted in life, honestly. Such a shame to know Pat is a less than a shell of his former self. Either way, hope to see more documentary dives like this and other collabs with various content creators in this genre. Keep up the amazing work, dude.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Shell of his former self? He doesn't have to make minecraft videos anymore. He's free. Tf are whining about kid?

[@ticklemedaddy]

@@bungiecrimes7247 Isn't it that he's going to strip clubs and doing drugs (or other substances) now? if that is true, I think there is something with him, I wouldn't say he's anything close to an alcoholic but I recall reading that he almost attacked his (current or ex?) girlfriend with a knife after he got really drunk one night he's free of making Minecraft videos, yes, but you word it as if he was forced to make them

[@Poukko]

⁠@@ticklemedaddywasn’t he proved innocent recently? i’m pretty sure his ex was the one trying to attack him and making all these accusations towards him

[@abbbble]

@@ticklemedaddy Nah he's been proven innocent, third party was lying and the girlfriend was the one fucking around

[@mrneveradullmoment]

Pat is the one who is psychotic.

[@nickyeet4683]

*drunk

[@stevencase1753]

To think, if Pat had stayed with Jen, if he had built a family, if he had a kid to keep him accountable, none of this would have happened. The crazy "girlfriends" (let's face it, gold diggers.), the arrests, the alcoholism, and all the depression he's gone through would NOT have happened. His refusal to grow up and step into the next chapter of his life, fatherhood, is his downfall. Let this be a lesson

[@waifu_png_pl6854]

not wanting to have kids doesnt mean someone refuses to grow up. parenthood is optional

[@IXIRaygun]

It really is a shame that this happened to him. Breaking up with jen, on camera, made it seem like he wasn't hurt too much by it but in reality it broke him. I hope he gets better, and I wish him a happier life

[@skies5350]

collabing with a racist is crazy lmao

[@brick7272]

@keezyBearwoah ur grammar is funky

[@LuvHaebom]

wait turkey tom is racist?? what happened, can I have some context? I’ve been living under a rock for a while I guess 😭

[@OneShotMan2]

basically everything this guy said is a lie or far taken out of context id recommend reporting for misinformation

[@thekerrslife6419]

Not misinformation, do the research just like these two did

[@yoahnoah9780]

havent watched the vid yet but i just wanna make it VERY clear that pat was proven innocent and you should change the description/pinned comment to reflect this. he was proven innocent months ago yet due to improper research commentary youtubers still use outdated information and say hes guilty.

[@Max-ej4oh]

I can't believe Toasty and Tom are gay guys.

[@Groggle7141]

27:58 Most of Liz's allegations are probably false. Considering that she has various mental illnesses and has been shown to be an unreliable narrator. The only thing that shows that Pat did anything wrong is the security guard's testimony that he chased Liz. But Pat says that Liz was attacking him, so he was probably trying to drive her out.

[@BlissBee]

He's been doing alot better recently if anything it seems like your beating a dead horse

[@magnus_bb]

im not at all trying to say that its imperative that Jen does say something, but i really do wonder how she feels about everything that has happened to Pat. I used to religiously watch them as a kid so when all of this first came out about Pat i was devastated. He didn't deserve to have all of that happen to him. No one does. I only hope he can grow and thrive after all of this.

[@daemeunmarlow1120]

Damn, a good woman can really make life great and a terrible one can really ruin it all

[@Zero-qq2id]

Pat and Jen broke up bc Jen wanted kids but pat did not right

[@Crazycreeper349]

Yup, it’s a mutual breakup, thank god

[@bear3616]

Idk why Pat didn’t though. I mean he was well off I assumed. And shouldn’t kids be an issue of discussion before you get married?

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

@@bear3616it’s a situation where pat and Jen both didn’t want kids but Jen changed her mind and yeah it caused a fight so they were communicating well and trusted eachother but one quick decision put a strain on their relationship

[@NotThatSalty]

i just skip the parts where tom talks

[@MercyTheSecond]

why?

[@Brian_Griffin_Gaming]

@@MercyTheSecondapparently Tom’s controversial in the commentary community. Idk why though

[@sandwiches1069]

@@Brian_Griffin_Gaming pyrocynical and some others too

[@uwo1331]

​​@@Brian_Griffin_Gamingthey Yapp alot and act weird. And he attempted to accuse pyro just to be outed as a hypocrite if I remember correctly plus he yapps who the hell makes 2 hour videos on situations that only require a few seconds of detailed information pyro makes like 70 hour videos just to speak about a 0.1 second video just to describe what California is.

[@barbariangamin5136]

@@uwo1331sounds a little deeper then that buddy 😂

[@BiggyToon]

Pat is the perfect example of how fucked up the court system can be, yes he did horrible things but it was blown out of proportion because his exes wanted to see him fail.

[@pixelreflectorpro]

He didn't do anything horrible but dumb

[@Tabth3778]

No matter what happened to PopularMMOs, "the sink is shipping" lives rent free in my head. PopularMMOS, DanTDM, Stampy, and VenturianTale raised me 😭

[@Fishy9116]

HOLY COW! A COLLAB WITH ANOTHER KZbinR I LIKE AS WELL?! LETS GOOO

[@gdwdexter2804]

I genuinely cried twice. The whole controversy is insane, but overall, I definitely hope to see Pat doing much better some time in the future, as long as it's not with Liz yet again. We all miss the legend that we thought we knew and loved, but rewatching all the content that I used to as a kid, it hurts to know what happened and how much of a turn his life took. I'm so happy for Jen tho.

[@SummerPineapple]

what the hell do u mean "entertainment purposes only" this is serious shit

[@StayLucid23]

21:49 it’s probably bc he gave her a yeast infection not that he is taking the medication. Been there.

[@luvbug2079]

let’s be happy for jen for a second here… because a while back she had a baby and she seems to be really happy with her partner!!!😎😎😎🎊😩🥳🥳🥳🥳 ik they said this in the video but it’s fine lmao

[@jackofastora8962]

Disrespectin the goat on main is blasphemous 🙏

[@Jfernandez02]

Pat really fumbled the bag just because he did not want kids...sad

[@WhimsicalLittledawg]

OMG YES. THERE HE IS! I still watch em, he's not that bad. ZANG THAT OUTRO WAS COOL. What a smooth transition.

[@TrivatorGaming]

All I can do is pray his life turns for the better

[@Grim_sights]

this situation was resolved months ago, none of this content is new dawg 💀

[@Kaybeeguy]

I honestly did not expect you to collab with Turkey Tom

[@Omerizorman]

Oh my god I remember him back when he was a MMonster from monster legends Oh the memories His Ex-Gf was Also a monster in the game I remember they made a Valentine's Event with them RIGHT AFTER THEY DIVORCE LIKE THE TIMING WAS AHHHHHHHH 😂😂

[@aarson0]

Him at the time posting her address was based asf

[@MicromarkerOSC]

This is just generally crazy on how he ruined his life

[@honeygearanimations]

He really didn't tho.

[@jetstream_sam69420]

Wasnt pat proven innocent? I heard the third party was lying. (Also eleni is the reason his life started going down, but i think he has recovered i dont really care if he doesn't post anymore let him have some peace)

[@samc3544]

Honestly I never knew they broke up and this just kinda breaks my heart.

[@bomberdawesome]

Wow man your late. They've been divorced for nearly 6 years now. 😂

[@slash3751]

hes doing fine hes talked about all this in variety of podcasts

[@TheRoseBoy11]

Me during the beginning of the video: Wow, Pat really seemed like he got slandered for no reason. Me after watching the entire video: *Oh...*

[@max-abobea]

On the bright side, he has been proven innocent, so there's a chance for recovery

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@max-abobea chance of recovery? Oh, no, this toasty guy's wallet doesn't like the sound of that. For real tho, pat is already passed all of this nonsense. He just dropped a few podcasts and then I guess went onwards with the real world.

[@max-abobea]

@@bungiecrimes7247 now that's what a Chad is

[@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh]

@@max-abobea Where?

[@max-abobea]

@@Idiskjsjsjjsjsjsbhshshshsh no I meant like... I forgot the name of the owner of popularMMOs, but still, he didn't let that court case stop him, he deserves respect

[@lordcheezez8003]

1:46 70?!! Pounds of muscle, nah that can’t be right lol, prolly gained 70 pounds yk, filling out. 70lbs of straight muscle is crazy work

[@saintcecil]

my best friend and I bonded over our mutual love of pat and jen videos when we were 9. looking back as adults we both realize how many red flags we missed because of our age. our friendship lasted longer than their marriage though so…

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

What red flags?

[@Jross1148]

We’re having a roasted Turkey sandwich for lunch

[@slayerbrother5779]

For me PouplarAmmos Will always be a Titan of Minecraft KZbin but it's Just Sad that his Life turned out this Way.

[@AAAshield]

Pat needs a team to get him back on track

[@topcat59]

Who knew that turkey and toast could work so well with one another.😺

[@ZookaZero]

Tom's the type of guy to have these comments follow him

[@xhypedpancakex2417]

Pat was so drunk he fell asleep outside and all of a sudden a hour later he woke up and just magically found a knife?

[@xhypedpancakex2417]

Not to mention she saw he had a knife and still went outside after saying she locked all the doors because she was already scared

[@CLAPNUGGETSdani]

Damn, i stopped watching popularmmo's a long time ago, this is deep