Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down
@gibio396 Жыл бұрын
Finally Darth maul has got to be one of the best characters in the franchise
@TheQuincyEdwards Жыл бұрын
I never gave Maul the credit for how good he is with the force or lightsaber skills! He’s more than formidable. Thanks for the video!
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
No doubt!
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see this vid finally come out. So many people underestimate Maul and even believe Grevious to be close if not superior to him even though all his "Losses" have great context to them.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Grievous is a BUM
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues That's exactly what I've been saying lol. Maul never ran from a fight unless someone like Savage was injured, Grevious ran at every opportunity and he only killed Mother Talzin when she was occupied with Palpatine and Dooku😭
@darkforgiven360 Жыл бұрын
There are also a lot of similarities between Maul and Vader.
@ssadq Жыл бұрын
its cuz nerds r nitpicking every little detail, maul is a middle tier character he loses a lot
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
@@ssadq cope
@stevenarnett4471 Жыл бұрын
I’ve said it for years, Maul is a beast and is capable of incredible feats. He just gets in his own way
@flyinglions2223 Жыл бұрын
This video made me view Maul on a completely different level. Great analysis
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Another one successfully converted to the church of Maul
@Zeptic11 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues always considered maul to just be a sith assassin and not too strong just lucky but this video also changed my mind, awesome video
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
@@Zeptic11 thanks!
@theoldhermit2601 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Key Issues; I had watched a ton of your vids around when Endgame came out, but had fallen out of the powerscaling scene from then til a few months ago. It's great seeing you cover SW characters more often :) keep up the great work
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you! Welcome back
@stevecavalle Жыл бұрын
I always had the feeling that Maul is Superior to Dooku in canon All this time I saw content telling me otherwise Glad to at last see a video which confirm what I was thinking about this topic
@darkforgiven360 Жыл бұрын
Many will quickly turn to Dooku using force lightening. Yet Vader never uses force lightening in canon either and few would say that Dooku is superior to Darth Vader. Maul gets so underestimated.
@alecjackman2655 Жыл бұрын
More like Maul got super buffed in canon
@pixel3042 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Vader can't use force lightning because his suit has a build-in weakness to lightning
@CzarBomba827 Жыл бұрын
Pixel304 that and I’m pretty sure it’s been stated that your hands need to be living flesh in order to use force lightning.
@polartang250 Жыл бұрын
Dooku as a Jedi was in the top 3 always being compared to Yoda and Mace who are both a tier above Maul. Then he became stronger when he learned the dark side and has bodied Kenobi and Anakin multiple times which Maul seems to always has a hard time trying to beat. Dooku with his force lightning is probably the least of Maul’s worries. Dooku is a better duelist, more experienced, more level headed and arguably stronger in the force.
@Zong_Cheng Жыл бұрын
Such a god tier video that Garrick just made Maul my favourite SW character alongside Luke … granted it’s only two spots up but Vader and Obi are top tier af.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Maul and Zong are both legends in my book
@jeremiahmorris1852 Жыл бұрын
Darth Vader used to be my favorite, but watching Maul's journey after his return, he's clearly the superior Sith. He even did what Vader failed to do, become his own man. He went from being Sidious's apprentice to becoming a crime lord and shadow ruler of Mandalore
@NathanjulienMukoko3 ай бұрын
Thank you that's what I'm saying
@NathanjulienMukoko3 ай бұрын
😊
@flingflam707 Жыл бұрын
Sidious also brought and sparked TWO lightsabers to fight Maul when he only used 1 against Fisto, Windu, Tiin and Kolar. Showing he thought of Maul as a bigger threat than all 4 Jedi Masters.
@suleviys3023 Жыл бұрын
sidious sparked two to fight both of the brothers and used a fighting style best suitable against them. as he also did against the 4 jedi when he also got overpowered by windu. maul is great but in no way is stronger than windu
@farikoliquidz4606 Жыл бұрын
@@suleviys3023maul spinning back kicks windus bald head off his shoulders
@matthewmann896910 ай бұрын
@@farikoliquidz4606No Mace would best Maul in a one on one duel with no destractions like the fight Maul had with Windu And Secura that lasted like five seconds yeah.
@pt57285 ай бұрын
@@matthewmann8969lol
@Mr.DelicateTouch Жыл бұрын
The editing in this video was fire🔥
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! It took soooo long
@Mr.DelicateTouch Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssuesIt definitely payed off. You did a great job
@Silverritter Жыл бұрын
I love how much you give Maul credit with all different sources. But you gotta give the count some love too man c:
@polartang250 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like he’s highly underestimating Dooku
@drpatrickmorbius5966 Жыл бұрын
@@polartang250he uses legends quotes to undermine dooku then ignores the legends quotes that give dooku the edge…
@anthonyslaybe8861 Жыл бұрын
I adore Darth Maul he’s probably the best written character in the clone wars series and he’s always been one of my favorite Sith Lords. Obi-Wan Kenobi is my favorite character though and I really want to see what his scale in power is in comparison to Maul and everybody else. Any chance you could do a video on him next my guy?
@Perfect-Sininen Жыл бұрын
Hey! My tweet is here! 22:07 Nice to see someone using sources of Maul's fight against Sidious outside CV and Discord.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
You're a 🐐
@Mr._Galaxywide Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: In legends Maul beat a armed Yuuzhan vong warrior with nothing but his bare hands...
@CzarBomba827 Жыл бұрын
And he was blinded for part of the fight too…
@ryggamortis7594 Жыл бұрын
It really erks me when people write write off darth maul as some kinda second rate villain, sure he wasn’t as explosively in tuned with the force like vader and sidious but he was far above average. His arrogance was his biggest weakness not his abilities, he just pulled all his power into his body to amplify his physical abilities making him a force to be reckoned with in lightsaber duels. But that doesn’t mean his outward abilities were completely lacking, sure we don’t see him shooting lightning but in the clone wars show he moved a huge space ship like 6x bigger than a tie fighter when he needed to, and I believe had he given the effort he could have learned lightning, maybe not like sidious but dooku level at the very least.
@tomcross3000 Жыл бұрын
5:50 important to note, he had just been running across a dessert while maul was on his swoopbike.
@spookeymankey5243 Жыл бұрын
Best one of explaining Mauls power yet!
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!
@tomcross3000 Жыл бұрын
i admire the research you did with this. all good points. btw i never saw the significance of dooku going for obi wan and tiplee before now, well done pointing that out. it should be factored in too that aayla secura is more boastworthy than previously thought after she has been depicted in a comic early this year duelling ventress to a stalemate.
@Miguel11190 Жыл бұрын
There’s a reason Lucas wanted Darth Maul to be the Endgame villain of Star Wars.
@NightRaid-bv8gg Жыл бұрын
Literally
@kwamster9004 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@sd300z Жыл бұрын
Dang what
@ushumgal-martu5 ай бұрын
@@sd300zthe sequel saga was gonna be centered around maul’s crime family and how they overtook the galaxy after sidious dies.
@theoldhermit2601 Жыл бұрын
Also while i wont know until i get through the vid, my thought on why hes so powerful but loses so often is because his mindset makes him prone to losing. Just as Vader's mindset makes him destined to be conflicted and self loathing, Maul's mindset made him destined to be self defeating and arrogant in his moments of victory. And he only realizes this at the very end, after Ben Kenobi struck him down in seconds.
@nisoldi Жыл бұрын
Darth Maul has got to be the best design of any semi-modern star wars character.
@uravggoat2620 Жыл бұрын
Love the video and the w editing got me at the leg kick 😹
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I liked that part too
@pantherapardus1398 Жыл бұрын
The one thing I'll say is that Maul is never able to conjure Force Lightning. This is probably due to the fact that the majority of his training focused on becoming an incredibly formidable duelist and well, it paid off. I believe that had Maul killed Obi Wan without toying with him, Sidious would've had begun to develop his Force powers.
@GeneFOX70 Жыл бұрын
There's guides stating that Maul can use Force Lightning.
@demonkittyspet11 ай бұрын
He can use force lightning he just chooses not to
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
This video is the most detailed analysis ever.....
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
I PRAYED FOR TIMES LIKE THIS TO RHYME LIKE THIS, DARTH MAUL GONNA GET OFFGUARDED BUT ILL JUSTIFY IT 🗣️
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
THIS ONE IS FOR YOU, GOAT!!!
@RiceCubeTech Жыл бұрын
In the old canon he was described as being the best sith duelist in canon even surpassing sidious since sidious was a force heavy user. He also crafted two perfect synthetic crystals far beyond the quality of most sith. But Disney through all that in the garbage.
@towerbunga Жыл бұрын
You should do a Ventress video, her power is largely unknown to the wider fandom.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Trueeee
@lordmouse633724 күн бұрын
@@KeyIssuesPlease do the Ventress Video🙏
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
I SAID RIGHT FOOT CREEP OUUU
@nisoldi Жыл бұрын
look around stay low
@MasterOfTheElements Жыл бұрын
I really like Maul, Sam Witwer did an amazing job playing him.
@galacticgamingguy5906 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Video! Would you consider doing Kylo Ren next? A villain who is highly underrated and considered weak by fans yet surprisingly powerful considering his feats. Thanks
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
I’m working on it
@Mikerille Жыл бұрын
Finally. Now people will stop hating on my favorite sith.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
That’s the plan
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues Keep theses breakdowns coming bro.If you do a fallow up you can talk about the reason why Maul was confident in killing Anakin in season 7.
@lakithchandra8901 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jamest1242r7 ай бұрын
When Sidious called Maul his young apprentice it wasn't just because Sidious was old and he was younger but Maul was 22 years old during TPM and was 3 years younger than Obi-Wan Kenobi.
@MrNormal3212 ай бұрын
No he was 3 years older actually, obi wan was 19 like anakin in aotc
@jamest1242r2 ай бұрын
@@MrNormal321 bruh. Kenobi was 34 years old in AOTC
@collinpeugh2238 Жыл бұрын
Gave maul that Gok Gok treatment this episode
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
he's right
@Blue9k Жыл бұрын
Maul the 🐐
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
@pucknorris3473 Жыл бұрын
I agree with literally everything you said... Especially the part about the cringee solo hater fans. Solo was f****** fire and I will die on this hill.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
PREACH
@damaskholdings9140 Жыл бұрын
A surprise to be sure ,but a welcome one
@thomaswilson8080 Жыл бұрын
The sad thing about maul was that we never got to see his full potential of him and i think maybe he could be more powerful then darth sidious if he didn’t get cut in half. Darth Maul was a true apprentice of palpatine ( not like count dooku )that if he lasted longer he may been able to kill him but after anakin was introduced to seen, maul was going to be replaced no one had more potential then the chosen one. And that even without training for around a decade he was so strong is amazing The one thing I disagree with the take that obi wan was weaker in there 1st fight there are many variables that could affect how obi wan didn’t do as well, such as fighting his masters killer. In the end tho the reason obi wan won so many of his duals isn’t because he had the most power or the most potential it was because he was so smart and calm in his fight’s, I think a lot of people don’t understand that. Both obi wan and darth maul are my top 2 favourite characters so thank you for making a great video on maul and could you make a video on obi wan, please. I think that rebels obi wan is equal to Darth Vader or just a bit weaker
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
Rebels Obi-Wan is far weaker then both Vader and Maul
@GeneFOX70 Жыл бұрын
Qui Gon should've stayed around until ROTS, would've been great to see Liam Nesson and Christopher Lee fight each other on screen.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
That woulda been sick but would’ve taken away from Anakin’s story
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
Sith don't just train anyone in there ways Sedious saw something in Maul to would want to even spend valuable time training him hard the way he did.....That should tell star wars fans enough where his potential is.
@aaronmathclass Жыл бұрын
Honstely Maul wouldve still lost if he found Obi-wan the first day he landed he wouldve been facing a Master who has long since commenced his journey to becoming 1 with the force the duel wouldve probably been alot longer but ended the same with Maul seeing the chance to kill him just like his master except he was facing a foe who long since forgave and forgot this foe and cuts him down honorably
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
True but the fight would of been longer even if Maul lost yeah.
@Tiptoptier6 ай бұрын
I’m not positively sure if maul is rivaling Palpatine anytime soon but yeah, he’s one of the strongest Sith in his time for sure. Good video as always
@_LYoАй бұрын
In short: Darth Maul is one of the best (and my all time favourite) Star Wars characters and an insane character arc. (Plus his Soundtrack is absolutely epic!) In my opinion it was mainly Obi-Wans Plot Armor and a bit Mauls slight arrogance and taunting that led to his fall into the pit and his "defeats" years after. His time on Lotho Minor only proves how incredibly powerful he was in the force, even with his sanity lost he was able to hold junk together to form legs only with the force, for years. The fact alone that Sidious doesn't send a henchman to deal with Maul and Savage but instead goes to Mandalore in person shows how much of a threat they are to his cause and how strong Maul actually is. In the battle Ahsoka vs Maul it's often overlooked that Maul didn't want do defeat Ahsoka, although he could've easily, he wanted her to join him and help him. And even after that, without a lightsaber and only with the force he slashed his way through hallways of Clones. Even in rebels, way past his prime, Maul took on the Inquisitors and demolished them with ease. In overall power only Sidious is slightly above Maul and so many fans definetely don't appreciate Maul enough. I'd also like to add that Ray Park with his jumps and stunts and Sam Witwer with his chilling voice both did an absolutely amazing job at portraying him.
@xXSonTJXx Жыл бұрын
I honestly didn’t know how lucky Obi Wan is in all his fights where he beats people stronger than him due to pure luck or them holding back/nerfed lol
@xXSonTJXx Жыл бұрын
But tbf they do a terrible job showing that Maul is that powerful
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
it's pretty much every fight he's in
@MrNormal3212 ай бұрын
@@KeyIssueshe's still an incredible duelist tho
@daelinmiller4437 Жыл бұрын
Darth Maul always been my favorite character since I was like 5 years old when I first saw the phantom menace and read a star wars anpysclapida
@JoePlug-c9j Жыл бұрын
Video of the decade
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@orin81 Жыл бұрын
Love how you said it perfect !
@zilexfaulty Жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time obi beat someone who’s stronger than him but wasn’t all there I would have 2 nickels.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
It’s his speciality
@Tylearned Жыл бұрын
POV you’re above Dooku Obi Wan and can scrap wit Vader
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
YESSIR
@giancarlofregoso Жыл бұрын
Great video! You should do a ranking of all the Jedi and Sith
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
They will come for me
@knockdoubt9 ай бұрын
The UFC left leg meme had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
@zefft.f40108 ай бұрын
"Always remember, I am fear. Always remember, I am hunter. Always remember, I am nothing. Always remember, I am filth." - Maul
@RandomMackem0069_Official Жыл бұрын
So maul became a lesser version of sion who kept his entire body together with anger while Maul used anger to stay alive while missing legs
@orin81 Жыл бұрын
I think personally if Maul reached his full potential and didn’t get his legs cut off he would definitely be more powerful then Sidous . I think that he will become a beast with night sister Magic’s combined with his sith force etc .. definitely quite OP and super Uber ! Remember Lucas’s original plans he wanted darth maul to be the next sith lord and ruler after sidious and darth talon as his apprentice who is like Vader. Whereby Luke and Leila will have to battle both talon and Maul… hence Leila is the real chosen one ..
@mag8138 Жыл бұрын
Yo orin for me i think maul losing his legs made him more powerful because of his hate for obi wan i just dont think he lost potentiel he just went a step back
@mag8138 Жыл бұрын
But yes i do agree with you he would be OP
@orin81 Жыл бұрын
@@mag8138 yeah I see , but filoni and others state that maul was still rusty and hence not as good as he once was ie a shell of his former self and Obi had more of an advantage over him but Maul still managed to get thru.
@turnerbrawley4715 Жыл бұрын
Good job key issues!
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aydanmull Жыл бұрын
His Fortnite model is actually really good and I use him pretty often. If you use the kata blade you can re create his double bladed saber too
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
I've been alternating between using him and Kylo Ren
@aydanmull Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues Based
@rotyler2177 Жыл бұрын
You have been well trained (in Fortnite), Aiden. They will be no match for you.
@aydanmull Жыл бұрын
@@rotyler2177 crown win
@thatfunkymonkey7667 Жыл бұрын
Make a powerscaling tier list video for Star Wars
@mag8138 Жыл бұрын
And key issues You are amazing
@artofcujo Жыл бұрын
I think a few of your arguments are a little disingenuous. Vader comparing that fighting style to sidious's is probably because sidious trained maul in lightsaber combat and not because she necessarily rivals him. Maul being able to kill clones when the Jedi couldn't in order 66 isn't good enough of a feat to bring up since the Jedi would've been completely caught off guard at their allies turning against them while it was just another Tuesday for maul. There's a lot of feats putting Vader on a level above maul and claiming maul wasn't in his right mind against obi wan in rebels while not pointing out Vader was the same way against ahsoka is pretty fallacious. I also think it would've been better for you to elaborate more on count dooku's scaling (feats statements stuff like that) to get a more concrete analysis on where they should scale to one another, it seemed like you cherry picked a bit in that segment. I do however think your analysis of obi wan and maul's scaling was well thought out and in depth which I appreciate
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
1. I didn't make that claim. I just said he was very good at training Qi'ra to the point she could contend with Vader. 2. Many Jedi had the opportunity to fight and survive but died with their lightsabers in hand. Not all were caught completely off-guard. 3. Vader IS in his right mind when fighting Ahsoka. It's stated by Filoni himself. 4. This isn't a Dooku video.
@artofcujo Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues point was her being good at fighting and having a similar style to sidious is specifically because maul was trained by sidious and would have a similar style which was the main point of what I said. it's been stated numerous times that towards the end of the clone wars the jedi's abilities and mental states were clouded by the dark side and even if some Jedi fought back it's disingenuous to argue they wouldn't be mentally prepared for what happened. Filoni said that Vader was actively trying to kill ahsoka because he felt she was a threat due to being a reminder of Anakin, Vader is not very sound of mind during many instances where something or someone reminds him of Anakin as his perception of his new and old identity cause him to be conflicted. I never stated it was supposed to be a dooku video but there's evidence that makes your claims of maul's blatant superiority to dooku pretty contentious which is why I thought it wouldn't been better to bring those statements and feats up to prove your point better
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
@@artofcujo You're argument for Vader not being in the right state of mind while fighting Ashoka i feel is very weak. If Filoni himself stated Vader was attempting to kill ashoka and he showcased no feelings of confliction but simply rage, (Which is common for Vader all the time), then simply assuming he was conflicted based on no statements or anything proving otherwise is very weak imo.
@artofcujo Жыл бұрын
@@jasonsjustbetter2037 I don't mean conflicted in the sense that he doesn't have the resolve to kill ahsoka, but in the sense that whenever Vader gets reminded of Anakin (through instances like this where he sees someone close to him from his past) his state of mind changes to an extent due to him not thinking as rationally due to his anger. We see instances in the comics where his old feelings and his reaction to snuff them out when coming in contact with shit from his past causes him to act and think differently from how he does normally, and at one point he even flat out betrays palpatine by letting one of padme's body doubles go because of his past connections. There's simply more instances where reminders of Vader's past life as Anakin causes him to think and act differently than there are instances otherwise. A way better example is in the Kenobi show where Vader is basically bloodlusted the entire time because he's consumed with killing Kenobi and killing one more link to his past
@mcsquigg37 Жыл бұрын
@@artofcujo agreed
@connorberohn9310 Жыл бұрын
Darty maul is one of three who have ever survived a duel with sideous, the other two being grandmaster Yoda and Darth Vader
@Esok2926 ай бұрын
Sith were always meant to be much stronger than the jedi considering the power. In TPM Maul had the upper hand against a jedi master and his apprentice together but later on he even gets defeated by normal jedi. They nerfed him more and more over time, especially when Disney took over. George Lucas had even planned to have Maul as the main antagonist in the sequels. As an apprentice of Sidious, the sequels could have been perfect with his return. Dave Filoni sometimes lacks George Luca's vision
@SPeso08 Жыл бұрын
Who will be the next character that you are going to scale? Luke? Dooku? Obi-Wan? Looking forward to it anyways.
@Crackmiser Жыл бұрын
just goes to show you how Dooku was (in my opinion) the hardest nerfed character from legends to canon. legends Dooku was an absolute monster when it came to not only dueling, but also force ability.
@hellothere-bx8cf Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me his feats in legends and what book/comic he displayed his powers in?
@matthewmann896910 ай бұрын
@@hellothere-bx8cf1. In Legends as a Jedi Initiate he beyond easily telekenetically lifted a plant that weighed many hundreds of pounds and he was like seven years old or younger when he did that while most force users his age could barely lift leafs without struggling. 2. As a Jedi Initiate he above simply won force duels in competitions and tournaments at nine years old based on combating other force users based on force shields, force barriers, telekinesis, and force senses he was so good at it that he was the only student Yoda would not let win and out some effort into beating. 3. His potential in the force was so super high that Yoda desired to train him one on one personally and his potential in the force being enigmatic even for Yoda to comprehend Yoda did not even see this same potential in Windu and Yoda only refused the training of Anakin because Anakin was too old when he went to the order if not either Yoda or Dooku would of trained Anakin. Plus Plagueis saw Dooku as a insurance apprentice if Sidious did not go according to plan while he did not see that with Maul even before his defeat, Sifo Dyas even before he got offed, Nor Qui Gon even before he got the sentence to the netherealm. Plus Sidious had Dooku in mind even before Mauls defeat and saw Maul in reality as a assassin like Asajj And Grievous although more powerful while he saw Dooku as a true ally a equal from the other camp already trained in the jedi arts, a master duelist, and a skilled diplomat. 4. Was considered by Yoda to be the Jedi the most learned in the ways of the force, the orders strongest student, and the orders greatest failure(Lost For Leaving The Order) he said this in front of the entire council including Windu during times of Clone Wars implying that Jedi Master Dooku was more powerful then and higher potentialed then everyone in the order except Yoda And Anakin the latter when it comes to potential only yeah. 5. Sidious seeing Jedi Master TPM Dooku as his equal in power, skill, and political and governmental acumen a Sidious that became far more powerful after murdering Plagueis he thought this in his mind. 6. Was the second leading expert on Telekenesis in the Jedi Order after Yoda as a Jedi Master that he taught classes on the power upper then easily lifting all the council chairs and other heavy furniture in rapid succession. 7. Was so good at force speed and force reflexes that he was either tied with Yoda or slightly below Yoda around TPM Circa with Windu either being his equal or slight beneather. 8. Force healing was so good that he easily could heal himself of even the most harmful of poisons and diseases second only to Yoda in the order. 9. Best user of Tutiminus in the order most likely since he was taught directly by Yoda and said to be the most learned in the ways of the force after Yoda. 10. Likely was the second best in the order with telepathy, beast control, battle meditation, force self levitation, force illusions, etc. 11. As a sith within five years of his tutoring under Sidious he became a high tier Master of the dark side with force lightning, don moch, teleportation, force cage, doppelganger, force rage, and plenty of more powers force drain as well as que tech.
@robinschott7883 Жыл бұрын
As always a pleasure to watch your videos but why didn’t you mention Rex 😂 Just joking I love your content🔥
@k1ngkoda2939 ай бұрын
This guy absolutely hates obi wan lmaoo
@WittyUsername14 Жыл бұрын
I love this guy's breakdowns on these characters. I wonder if he'd ever do a general grievous video, I've always wondered how he ended up a spiderbot with 4 Jedi sabers
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I plan on doing a bunch of more SW videos
@WittyUsername14 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues wicked, I can't wait!
@ctv1862 ай бұрын
I wonder how much of this video was power scaling Maul as advertised, and how much was this a documentary on the various ways someone beat Obi Wan.
@THEDonnyB Жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that Maul's biggest flaw is that you've lost track of the here and the now.
@fisal8942 Жыл бұрын
Do you think maul would've won against obi wan if he was in full health?
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
yes
@timurjack87734 ай бұрын
Filoni said something like that Maul could dispatch Kenobi but to what extend, Kenobi could be Force ghost similar to how it happened with Vader vs Kenobi
@chaseparsons7040 Жыл бұрын
I like the turn you’re taking to make more Star Wars videos. However, I do have some issues with the general scaling. Power in the Star Wars universe is just not linear. Especially in regards to the force. Anyway I’m not here to make pointed critiques I think your content is great.
@mcsquigg37 Жыл бұрын
@Chase Parsons It’s not linear, but it’s also just fairly inconsistent all around since we got the Disney canon. Do you disagree with his Maul scaling? :)
@drpatrickmorbius5966 Жыл бұрын
@@mcsquigg37massively mainly in regards to how he somehow pulled the ridiculous conclusion that maul>=sidious>yoda>mace>anakin>dooku I’m terms of duelling which is just insane
@arturtourinho6449 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid!!!!
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!!!!!
@cameronrobinson946 Жыл бұрын
it's a shame that maul was never able to reach his full potential
@cherechesalexdaniel811 Жыл бұрын
I think that it is also important to note that Dooku should be weaker at the end of the clone wars than he was at the start. As he is only getting older which isn't helped by the dark side degradation he suffers. Does this make AOTC Dooku stronger than Maul? I don't know. But i feel is important to note. But this is a great video reguardless.
@Smoothalcoholic Жыл бұрын
Dooku learnt how to use the darkside on his own, his sith alchemy which he learnt from sidious is in the same league as maul but the latter was the most trained sith in the orders history. Quigon and mace were roughly in the same league as jedi/sith dooku, maul has beaten both Jedi once during tpm and son of dathomir.
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
@@SmoothalcoholicQui Gon was not in the same league as Neither Jedi Dooku Nor TPM Mace nor even TPM Maul in terms of power and dueling yeah.
@adasb9104 ай бұрын
Where do you find information such as at 34:21? And is there a collected place where you can for example find out about what dave filoni also said about him?
@ivancastro3654 ай бұрын
I hated by that he lost to Ashoka But thank you for this. Darth Maul was the man
@general_oliver Жыл бұрын
Bro made up so many excuse for just if maul losing to literally eveyone, even padawans💀
@Awesomeness46275 күн бұрын
I mean, he didn't make them up. Obi wan is knighted right after and it literally says in the offical star wars book that it was bad luck.
@aaronrodriguez9376 Жыл бұрын
Who wins ahsoka vs maul. I think it's ahsoka, since she went up against a prime buffed vader and performed very well. A vader old man obi wan lost too and old man obi wan defeated maul easily. Ahsoka and maul also performed equally against inquisitors in my book. Thank you and I love your content. Also Please make a video on how powerful is obi wan if you don't mind.
@aaronrodriguez9376 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for asking you about another vs battle. I was just really curious about cere vs ahsoka and now ahsoka vs maul
@aaronrodriguez9376 Жыл бұрын
Both in primes as well.
@aaronrodriguez9376 Жыл бұрын
Never mind you convinced me that maul is stronger. I didn't watch the whole video sorry
@adamlegros1180 Жыл бұрын
Maul and Savage had the issue of being up against only the most powerful people in the series, they were bound to have bad win/loss ratios lmaoo
@pixel3042 Жыл бұрын
If they continue the jedi fallen order and jedi survivor series, they should totally make darth maul a boss fight when cal is strong enough
@CarlosHernandez-xo7js Жыл бұрын
if he was so strong, how come he's dead?
@CarlosHernandez-xo7js Жыл бұрын
before someone gets mad at me this is a Simpsons reference also great video
@-Chase_Colon Жыл бұрын
very interesting character
@lasombramagister2668 Жыл бұрын
After Talzin gave him a power boost he was on Vader's level, but if he hadn't so fully let the Dark Side cloud his mind and become so hung up on petty revenge, I believe that in time, with the proper training he could have begun to approach Rick The Door Technicians level of power.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
Wasted potential
@ObnoxiousGhast Жыл бұрын
Did you fall on your head as a child? What has EVER suggested maul was EVER on Vader level?
@daunknown168411 ай бұрын
@@ObnoxiousGhastweird roast, but yeah, not quite on the same level, though according to Dave Filoni, in same realm during Rebels, so they couldn't have been far apart in power.
@ObnoxiousGhast11 ай бұрын
@@daunknown1684 they would have to be quite far apart, Maul with all his hubris and pride, admitted he couldn't defeat Vader ("I cannot defeat Vader alone" is what he said specifically) and Maul always tends to underestimate all his opponents, so for him to acknowledge he can't beat Vader, at least not alone would mean Vader would have to be considerably more powerful than him.
@daunknown168411 ай бұрын
@@ObnoxiousGhast well, we have no context as to why Maul said that line. It was only implied he and Vader had fought and Maul certainly did not deem himself as victorious. However, Vader is rather not the guy that allows you to survive and Maul was still alive to tell the tale, which, provided they actually fought, implies he was at least powerful enough to walk out in one piece.
@namelessvoid9725 Жыл бұрын
@Key Issues unless it wasn't retconned wasnt it stated sidious only trained maul like an assassin and didn't give him real sith training so he was only at a fraction of what he could have been if sidious trained him fully?
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
No
@OfficialNube6 ай бұрын
I agree with most of your analysis but I don't believe Maul was ever on a similar level to Vader mainly because Maul stated himself that he could not defeat Vader alone. He may have said this to manipulate Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra but there is definitely some truth to his statement.
@GeneFOX706 ай бұрын
Just like Ahsoka, Maul is comparable to Vader in dueling but weaker than him when it comes to Force power.
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
So Maul thought he could take on both Mace and Ayla that says alot about his skill level with a saber...
@pixel3042 Жыл бұрын
He didn't just think so, he did
@mcsquigg37 Жыл бұрын
@@pixel3042 Then loses to 17 year old Ahsoka. Ahsoka > Windu + Jedi Master lol
@pixel3042 Жыл бұрын
@@mcsquigg37 He wasn't trying to kill Ahsoka. He still wanted her and him to team up. He wanted her alive and tried to lure her to the dark side.
@mcsquigg37 Жыл бұрын
@@pixel3042 Yes, but even still, that makes her relative to Maul at least which puts her at the ver least scaling to Jedi high council level duelists, which I disagree with
@soularprimestudios5930 Жыл бұрын
@@pixel3042He really wasn't he wanted Ahsoka by his side so he took it easy it looked like he was using 40 percent of his power not gonna lie and Ahsoka also was just trying to capture Maul but it looked like she was really trying...I think one reason he wanted Ahsoka by his side was because he knew the simular parallels in there lives..you know what they say opposites attract...she would have joined him if he did not say he wanted to kill Anakin..Imagine if he kept that to himself 😮
@Sweeptheleg8311 ай бұрын
Eh, not sure between Maul and Dooku. Maybe because of Dookus age Maul would have an advantage but i think a younger and in his prime Dooku could take Maul. Dooku, even at his advanced age, fought Yoda to a draw. I know had they continued Yoda ultimately would have win but that is still very impressive considering Yoda was the best Jedi duelist of his time. I personally think Dooku was slightly better as a duelist then Windu. In fact i would say Dooku is one of the best pure duelists of all time. I think only Vader, Yoda and Sideous (probably Luke too) are above him but i think he could hang with anyone else. He made Obi Wan look like a chump twice so hes definitely a beast.
@nisoldi Жыл бұрын
Is this the guy from the end scene in Solo: A Star Wars Story?
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
yes
@bricelevai8520 Жыл бұрын
I’d argue that dooku and maul were at the same level. Dooku just fell to Anakin
@crammothy Жыл бұрын
You need to make a video about how strong Obi-Wan is as he is one of the strongest Jedi and you have used him as an example in this video and previously to show how strong other characters are.
@KeyIssues Жыл бұрын
I use him as an example because he is not very high-tier when talking about the strongest Jedi ever. Middle of the pack.
@crammothy Жыл бұрын
@@KeyIssues Yeah that’s true although I would still like to see a video analyzing how strong he truly is
@TheDockent-u3f Жыл бұрын
what a cool guy
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
Late Clone Wars Maul is more powerful and skilled then most on even footing except against Talzin, Sidious, Dooku, Mace, Yoda, Anakin, Plo Koon, And Obi Wan yeah.
@greyostrich4377 Жыл бұрын
When he fought Ben Kenobi on tatunoine Kenobi was also significantly more powerful as a few years before he overpowered and defeated Vader.
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
Vader is always conflicted when Fighting Obi-Wan so it's not really him at his full
@joseluis5055 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonsjustbetter2037 Vader was not conflicted when he fought Obi-Wan on the Death Star
@jasonsjustbetter2037 Жыл бұрын
@@joseluis5055 I didn't mean on the Death Star, I mean their duel in the Kenobi show
@greyostrich4377 Жыл бұрын
It’s still impressive as Kenobi has never been this strong.
@Ivbo Жыл бұрын
How far off do you think the Kylo Ren video is, really looking forward to that one.
@General_Vaderz Жыл бұрын
Maul>>>>kenobi
@timurjack87734 ай бұрын
Styles make fights, if its defense is needed Obi-Wan, if its offense is needed then Maul, because they both are tier 8 according to Nick Gillard. Gillard's rankings: Tier 9: Sidious, Yoda Tier 8: Maul, Dooku, Episode 3 Obi-Wan, Mace Windu (bordering tier 9) , Episode 3 Anakin (bordering tier 9) Tier 7: Episode 1&2 Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Kit Fisto Tier 6: Episode 2 Anakin
@General_Vaderz4 ай бұрын
@@timurjack8773 anakin in ep 2 was also a level 7, and dark side anakin a 9, but this isnt just about dueling, Maul has other advantages
@asrieldreemurr12108 ай бұрын
Yes finally someone acknowledged Darth maul superior
@Bloodletter811 ай бұрын
Another victim of Old Ben's plot armor.
@charliecollins581Ай бұрын
I think maul is stronger than obi wan but their final duel shows how insanely clever obi wan was, he was using the same stance qui gon was using in their second fight, which got maul to use the same move he killed him with. Obi wan anticipated this, changed stance and brought his lightsaber down through the middle of mauls. Maul was weakened but still got outplayed due to his confidence, especially if he was intentionally used that move