How Powerful will Thrawn's fleet be?

[@juancabardo21]

I think Thrawn will rejoin with the Shadow Council, allowing for their military and fleet to reemerge. At least I think that’s what this has been leading to

[@BrayOfTheDonkey]

aye this makes sense, considering they were waiting on him

[@tomasjz]

Hope they make a new but different Tie Fighter... like The Defender... maybe without the solar panels

[@juancabardo21]

@@tomasjz yeah i was kinda disappointed that Thrawn had no Defenders in Ahsoka

[@alpacawizardman6778]

I think instead of “rejoining”, it’ll be domination. From what we’ve seen from the books, Thrawn’s motivations vary significantly from other Imperial warlords, as he wishes to advance the security of the Chiss instead of serving the Emperor. Now that the Empire’s been usurped by the Republic, it’s proven itself to have been weak, something he doesn’t want. So instead of indulging in the Council’s fantasies of reimplementing their already flawed power base, he’ll build his own, and give the rest of the Council an ultimatum of loyalty or destruction. Of course, Hux isn’t going to join this and Gideon already did not trust Thrawn, so the cracks are already there, but he will take at least some of their power.

[@wingman__]

I think since we saw Pellaeon in Mandalorian S3 they're going to meet up and Pellaeon will give Thrawn the 7th Fleet back

[@mightheal]

I'm hoping the new version of the Katana fleet is a lost CIS fleet.

[@SpiritAce33]

That would be cool personally I Hope it's a mix fleet of different Factions.

[@killercour]

That would actually be badass

[@TheLiamster]

I wonder what happened to General Kalani from Star Wars rebels? I was hoping he’d have showed up in the finale but he didn’t

[@danielhaynas5723]

Katana fleet! yes! needed! please! 😍

[@kellyjorgenson5840]

Nice reference 💯

[@finaldarkfire]

One reason I think an 'All of the Above' option for Thrawn is particularly compelling is that it thematically parallels quite nicely with Thrawn effectively using the New Republic's own tactics from their Rebel days AGAINST them. A big aspect of the Rebel Alliance was that it was made up of many desperate groups united for a common goal and against a common enemy. So Thrawn likewise bringing together various Imperial Remnant factions, numerous imperial stragglers, hijacked New Republic ships, the Chiss Ascendancy, his own Empire of the Hand, Dathomiri Nightsisters and Zombies and maybe even some Dark Jedi as a kind of 'Alliance to Restore the Empire' feels quite appropriate.

[@LeoLau-ip9bv]

more like make a new empire

[@darthriezan5838]

His fleet will be so powerful within the time frame of a movie he will be unstoppable to completely destroyed

[@rodneypayne4827]

Killed by a single X-Wing armed with snarky remarks.

[@Obiwan7100]

This raises a question for me, would Thrawn try to resurrect the TIE Defender project or create a completely new design similar to the TIE Raptors from legends to try against the New Republic?

[@entityv.2830]

That would be bad for the new republic

[@steelrexer1062]

That’d be cool. It’d be interesting if he made a TIE with Nightsister tech or magik in it.

[@sugdolomar]

Or even the tie avengers, seems fitting for the imperial remnants.

[@michaelhviper]

That makes sense to me, as building better Ties would fit the situation. Tie fighters with shields, hyperdrives and even missiles makes sense as the Imperial remnant would be low on resources and their means to replace them. No more quantity over quality doctrine.

[@JJJBunney001]

The problem is manufacturing capability, the empire doesn't have much of that post jakku

[@WhoisPersona]

Given Thrawn's dislike of the Tarkin Doctrine it's possible that the bulk of his fleet could be made up of smaller frigate sized vessels like the 546 Cruiser and then relegate the ISD to a heavy cruiser/capitol ship role. I would love it if they re-introduced the Victory Class Star Destroyer into cannon and have that ship be the new standard you see during engagements.

[@watcherzero5256]

A common misconception was that the Empire of The Hand represented the whole Chiss race. It only involved Thrawns families resources and a few like minded young Chiss from other families as he had been exiled by the Chiss Government for breaking their non-interference so as to conserve resources and conceal themselves from enemies policy (Chiss fleets rules of engagement was they could only retaliate or prevent an impending attack but he cheated by goading them into an attack and was found out), after his defeat in the Thrawn Trilogy he returned to reclaim his inheritance and started the Empire of The Hand as a political movement to try an overturn the isolation policy. The Chiss were so into hiding the 9 main families didnt even know the location of each others homeworlds!

[@mightheal]

He was dead so couldn't return. That group was already formed before his campaign against the New Republic.

[@watcherzero5256]

@@mightheal Ok I should say his followers returned with the prophecy that he would return from the dead in ten years (novel Vision of the Future)

[@StuartLugsden]

I had a thought. _The Eclipse_ has been made canon but it's been made an Executor class. We haven't seen this ship in some years now. With a damaged _Chimaera_ Thrawn's gonna need a replacement. What better replacement for the heir to the empire than the former emperor's personal command ship and a ship he would approve of since he was all about more and better ships than superweapons? I could see Brendol Hux and Sloan handing it over to him since _The Supremacy_ will be under construction at this point. We've never seen Thrawn use a Super Star Destroyer so this would be awesome and it would be awesome seeing that ship on screen again. I could see him renaming it and adding his personal emblem under like he did before and adding his big arse chair to the command bridge.

[@justintaylor1713]

He was about more and better ships yes, but smaller ships, he’d see an SSD as a waste of resources that could’ve been put to better use by making a fleet of smaller ships, granted he’ll use it, but not as his flagship

[@techypriest7523]

Thrawn always preferred smaller vessels- placing all your eggs in one basket is flawed and leads to catastrophic losses. He'd likely repair the Chimera and/or allow the hyperspace ring to act as its new propulsion / weapons refit. I see Thrawn investing in smaller cruisers in the coming future to allow the proper guerilla warfare he originally conducted- a tactic especially effective against a stronger, higher-resource and larger foe.

[@christophernemeth421]

Is Sloan even around anymore? There has been zero mention of her in any of the shows or movies

[@darthrevan704]

Maybe thrawn would use victory class stardestroyers

[@liamdudeeee]

What you say sounds great and fits into the lore well. So in typical Disney tradition, its not what we will get.

[@generalsmite7167]

I hope to see an empire strikes Back like seen with a large imperial fleet

[@jimtalbott9535]

6:10 - I’m not at all convinced that Thrawn would use zombie troopers as a substitute for clones - how many can the NightSisters even provide? But bring Weyland into things, with it’s association in Canon with the remaining Kaminoans seems like the puzzle piece that’s equivalent to the old Spaarti cloning systems. It’s been set up as a highly secret facility, as in the EU, and we know how Filoni loves to drag the EU back into canon.

[@clancykohl]

Daka alone could resurrect an entire army worth, that even gave Grievous a hard time, where he had to resort to killing her to stop the spell. I'am not quiet sure how powerful these 3 new witches are supposed to be, like on one hand they could perform this magic, while Talzin could not. But then again they make kind of a big deal of summoning Talzin's sword, as they couldn't make anything better themselves, or they foresaw that Elsbeth would fail and they didn't care much about it, or perhaps it was a big deal, but they could just summon it again anyway. Or perhaps Talzin's sword isn't so much an unique item, but a spell Talzin invented.

[@owenparris7490]

I think the Chimera itself will be Thrawn's flagship, I don't see him using an SSD when he could just build a fleet around his Star Destroyer. Also, I used to be concerned about "retcons" regarding the post-Endor books, but so far, any contradictions have been minor and still respect the expanded media. I mean, the New Republic Era is described as being "relatively peaceful," so I'd expect some conflict in between the major wars.

[@watcherzero5256]

Presumably keeping the hyperspace ring which would mean its probably the fastest ship in the galaxy at the moment.

[@LordOceanus]

@@watcherzero5256 That's actually a very interesting point. Given how overpowered the hyperdrive is with that combination Thrawn may be able to move Chimera through the galaxy outside of the existing hyperlanes. That could give him a terrifying ability to appear wherever he wants at will.

[@LakesideTrey]

The last SSD was destroyed at Jakku I think

[@ggCA07]

i hear he wasn’t a fan of large warships so he might go with the specialized ship route. ships that are specialized destroyers, carriers, corvettes, frigates etc instead of things like the ISD which were everything and very large. Chimera will obviously be his flag ship.

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

@@LakesideTreyaccording to the Canon only

[@andrewbryant4259]

It could still be tying in closely with legends. The NR saw the 5 years before thrawn as a mopping up action with the outcome all but certain. They could easily be downplaying the empires strength out of fear or marketing and refusing to believe they are still a threat. Pair that with mount tantiss from Bad Batch and whatever those pods were on the Chimera we could have a cloning aspect (terrifying if they can all be resurrected by nightsister magic)

[@echosdatacore2056]

I think if I'm not wrong General Brendol Hux does have an Executor-class Star Dreadnought the Eclipse, which was Palpatine's personal flagship. Now, I don't think Hux will give it to Thrawn but there is a chance. I also believe Wayland is serving as the base of operations for the Imperial Remnant

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Palapatines personal flagship Was a ECLIPSE CLASS star dreadnouught with a super laser not a executor class , maybe Huzura had a executor class but it wouldn’t be Palapatines flagship

[@sumukhvmrsat6347]

Wayland would be a technology vault

[@brojo355]

@@sumukhvmrsat6347 Thats in Legends. In canon the Eclipse-Class got reconned and the Eclipse itself was made the sistership of the Executor. She still is named as Palpatines-Flagship even if i dont know of any occasion where he was onboard.

[@skalywag76]

I don't know if the number of super star destroyers still remaining has been established by canon. But I would love for them to put one in Thrawn's fleet. We got to see the one in ROTJ but lbr. Who wouldn't wanna see an ssd going to town in a space battle with modern special effects?

[@shanenolan5625]

The book ( empires end ) said a around 20 to 25 percent of the star destroyer fleet. ( around 4 or 5 thousand ships )

[@darthrevan704]

​so that may mean one or two exutors class ssds are still around

[@ImperialsExplained]

In Canon, the surviving remnants of the imperial fleet fled to an area of the galaxy called the Queluhan Nebula under Grand Moff Randd but also I feel Pellaeon could be hiding the Seventh Fleet in this area too. Thrawn will surely attend the Shadow Council to gain their support and rally the Warlords too to galvanise the other scattered imperial forces.

[@grandadmiralm7117]

I swear if Disney doesn’t let thrawn utilize at the minimum tie defenders and interdictors to absolutely trash the nr this part of Star Wars would be disappointing due to thrawns attachment to effective military vessels and his own tactical abilities.

[@martyincanuckistan3635]

Did you not think his tactical abilities seemed pretty mediocre in the series, I was expect a master strategist.

[@Obscurite1221]

@@martyincanuckistan3635 For fighting plot armor, he did pretty well. Not to mention he's low on troops, half his equipment is nonfunctional or degraded, and he really didn't care about them, he just wanted to leave with the Night Sisters.

[@mightheal]

One thing I hope Lucasfilm brings back to help provide context for things is to bring back the galactic map in the beginning of the comics and novels to show where the Imperial remnant territory is. It'll help give people a visual representation of the number of groups and the scale of them without needing to take time to explain it in the story.

[@notnotkevinjohn]

I think it could be really good storytelling to have the next season of Ahsoka focus on Thrawn's effort to consolidate a sufficient fleet while Hera struggles to get the New Republic to allocate enough forces to stop him from doing so. Maybe he could make a play for some secret technology like the Star Forge from KOTOR or like the Katana Fleet that might allow him to quickly bring a very large fleet of major capital ships under his command. I sort of expect that any major space battles in this story are going to be told in movies, not in the streaming shows, so I think they're going to build up to something slowly. And of course, while this is happening, the Jedi in the other galaxy have their own adventure before finding a way home.

[@TheDarkPorkins]

I don't think Thrawn will play a large part in Ahsoka S2. I bet he will be present in Mando S4

[@Obscurite1221]

@@TheDarkPorkins He will likely be present in most if not all of the immediate future material, including the movie. He's not a small character. He's basically the BBEG of the entire arc the galaxy is heading in to.

[@Gigas0101]

Thrawn's initial fleet won't need to be all that big. It's Thrawn, the guy who could destroy the rebel fleet from Endor with half a tie fighter and a Mon Calamari Tijuana Bible. It'd probably be more in character for him, and a much better display of his whole deal to people who never got into the legends material, if we see him winning against enemies who outnumber his forces. Also, I like to imagine the new republic ships we're seeing are the start of their official navy, whereas demilitarization takes the form of dismantling/repurposing the Empire's old military industrial complex and slowly phasing out the mismatched, guerrilla fleets of the Rebel Alliance.

[@LordInsane100]

He is good, and he can win against enemies who outnumber his forces, but he's not _that_ good. I swear, people speak up Thrawn as if they've only read the bits of Hand of Thrawn where people with no actual experience of him speak up his reputation.

[@Obscurite1221]

@@LordInsane100 He's the single best strategic mind in the galaxy. He can't win impossible odds, no. But the line between doable and impossible is significantly different when talking about him.

[@PK-Radio]

Who knows. But one thing is for certain The space battle will be awesome

[@Rensune]

The only possible way they can make up for all of Disney's shenanigans is by giving Thrawn some awesome naval engagements.

[@mrbushido56]

Thrawn seems like a genuine good guy whos just on the wrong side

[@liamdudeeee]

Because that's what he was written to be in the new novels. Disney however is determined to make him their next typical bad guy since all there attempts at creating interesting original villains have ended in abysmal failure.

[@AlbioLakes]

I want a WARLORD Era where some Imperial Warlords not only resist Thrawn's ascendance but fight amongst themselves and betray each other. Its a good way of showcasing how Thrawn's troops are a different cut since Warlords do not have plot armor in the same levels as "the good guys".

[@ben501st]

Since Thrawn's weakness, so to speak, is the unknown, I could see the eventual First Order groups, like Hux, betraying him. Thrawn doesnt know that Palpatine wants to destroy the Empire for failing him. The New Republic is already cocky. Defeating a fleet ammased by Thrawn would really inflate their ego. The First Order would be able to build and prepare without raising suspicion.

[@candiman4243]

that sounds like one of the better ways of eventually resolving his return. He never was one for politics, so a betrayal like that definitely has a chance of surprising him

[@ribbitminecraft]

Wouldn’t he know? He would’ve known about Operation Cinder

[@The_Brickster]

Yes, very excited to see what Pellaeon has stashed!

[@romanmccoy5074]

Honestly how powerful does it need to be? If the republic is disarming and he can catch them off guard, he can do some major damage with minimal forces, esp with the nightsisters magic on his side

[@aralornwolf3140]

The problem is _scale_ which Star Wars is very bad at... Sure the "New Republic" is disarming since they won a war (because it's a pretext to explain why the Republic Navy didn't exist in TFA) but what type of ships are they mothballing? Sure, I'll grant that they destroyed 95% of their battlefleet (Mon Cal Cruisers, Imperial Star Destroyers, and other similar and largest ships) and half of the remainder is in mothballs... that's still 2.5% of active battlefleet Thrawn, and his supporters, need to deal with. Even then, the corvettes, frigates, and cruisers wouldn't be drastically reduced as much as the battlefleet for they are too important as scouts, escorts, anti-piracy duties, and hunting down warlords who haven't figured out the war is over. The we see a new ship class which looks to be around the size of a light cruiser. With enough support, a squadron of them will be able to take on an ISD (although they will suffer losses). So it's a matter of scale... do the forces Thrown will have be a threat to the New Republic _long_ term? Short term, they could be a threat to some task groups, maybe a task force... but once the New Republic navy gets their battlefleet on scene... Thrawn will lose.

[@Theology.101]

Cant wait to see zombies piloting Katanna Fleet

[@steelrexer1062]

Using the dead would make an excellent alternative to cloning like in legends to deal with the manpower problem the IR is prolly facing. The zombie troopers showed they’re able to use tech and stuff, at least the simpler things. I do wonder how much Thrawn is going to rely on the nightsisters. I honestly kept expecting one to betray the other in this season

[@matrix-5466]

My thought is that a lot of Ahsoka season 2 and even possibly Mando season 4, is going to be Thrawn assembling both the Imperial factions, and other allies like the Nightsisters. I have a feeling Pellaeon will be the largest faction to join Thrawn, and probably the first so he will become 2nd in command. The season might also show how others resist Thrawn’s takeover, and possibly how they rebel against him.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Thrawn could also take control of some of the shipyards in the outer rim.

[@ingetout]

I hope that they are going to be elite and not like the average Imperial military. One of the best traits of Thrawn was that he accepted mistakes from his troops as long as they learned from them which made them better. BTW, what are your thoughts on the Pens vs the Blackhawks in terms of who will be the more improved team?

[@bobograndman]

seeing how they made Thrawn's stormtroopers so stupid, I have a feeling his forces are just going to be mindless fodder

[@Opzax5567]

I wish we saw vanto because he got me into reading more into thrawn. Reason being is that we saw an ensign basically watch all of thrawn strategies moves and become a friend to him.

[@SW_006]

The only person that could maybe stop Thrawn is in the Chiss Ascendancy or dead…

[@michaelramon2411]

I don't know if this will come up in the main media, but Canon books have repeatedly emphasized that ISDs are resource-intensive ships that have serious problems when left outside of the Empire's logistical network for too long. Given that almost everything the Shadow Council has has been out of that network for 5+ years, it could be that most of their Star Destroyers are in somewhat rough shape as it is. I think that would be a fun dynamic, with even non-Chimera ships falling apart or undermanned.

[@TimSedai]

If Skeleton Crew somehow includes the Katana fleet season 2 of Ahsoka could feature Bilbringi and the movie could cover the seige of Coruscant

[@jessehorn6180]

I hope they'll add Chiss Starfighter, star destroyers, etc.

[@SW_006]

Yes we need more Chiss content I need to fucking know what happens to Vanto and how they fare against the Grysk

[@Juve_Fan2601]

1:16 DAVE FILONI IN BACKGROUND

[@nateshue8631]

i hope Filoni’s universe overwrites the sequels

[@entityv.2830]

probably unlikely

[@emilsinclair4190]

I hope not. He makes stupid decisions and just fills his shows with fan favourite to hide that his ideas are not that intresting.

[@entityv.2830]

I mean, thrawn Is going to be around for a pretty long time So I wouldn't be surprised if maybe if they do a fourth trilogy, he would be in.

[@tylergraham1076]

Not happening lol get over it

[@fluffaduck6206]

Dude the asohka show was not good why?

[@Wendyschilis]

4:36 what mod is this?

[@alpacawizardman6778]

I think that at least part of Thrawn’s new fleet will be stolen Republic vessels manned by the undead remains of their old crews, assuming that the Nightsisters keep their alliance. It’d be also nice to see some Chiss ships in their as well.

[@fdlman93092]

Thabk you for outlining Admiral Thrawn's "Build Back Better" plan. 😊

[@drakethesnek6429]

I think the better question to ask is how incompetent will the new republic fleet be?

[@murkywateradminssions5219]

Yesn't? With Admiral Akbar still in service (well i think?), they could still put up a fight...ish with heavy plot armor. However if Admiral Thrawn did win... We wouldn't really have the Supremacy class super star destroyer getting fucked now would we?

[@YbotPoweredGaming]

I'm still wondering if we will see Mt. Tantiss and a clone army. They set it up in the bad batch just after the destruction of Tipoca City.

[@jakeatom4841]

I think this is probably Disney’s strategy to extend beyond the Sequel Trilogy which very clearly was originally meant to be the last movie and end of the cinematic timeline. I think the fleet Thrawn assembles might set up a new series of shows or tie into the upcoming Rey and/or mandoverse movie, and they’ll try to pretend like the First Order and Episode 9 never happened.

[@mightheal]

They're not pretending anything the ST was a attempt to end the Skywalker saga without a plan not to end the cinematic timeline. If things went well they would have continued on not just rely on the shows.

[@DarksideGmss0513]

I do wonder if Thrawn will take control of Mount Tantis like he did in the legends books. It was an important staging area for Thrawn. Also I've thought of something else. In Jedi Fallen Order Cal fights Terron Malicos on Dathomir. I wonder if he might be Thrawns Jorus C'baoth. I think the nightsisters might function like the Noghri and the ysalamiri all in one.

[@linnja1]

Anyone know what gameplay is at 0:57 It looks like empire at war but the display screens and graphics seem way better than I remember.

[@vendetta9348]

Empire at war with thrawn's revenge mod, i think

[@appo9357]

7:16 I’d love to see those two in a live action movie or show.

[@macwelch8599]

Thrawn would most likely be forced to rely heavily on Imperial Light Cruisers and Victory class Star Destroyers

[@steelrexer1062]

It’d be awesome to see victories in live action at last

[@macwelch8599]

@@steelrexer1062 indeed

[@Dingusdoofus]

Do not EVER work with FUGA music

[@thestumpinator5774]

I think canons version of the Empire of the Hand would work well and be one of the coolest story elements. There is already a setup for an Empire of the Hand type thing unlike back when Heir to the Empire was first written and Thrawns backstory had not been established. This will be a great way to bring the Chiss into the greater Star Wars media and also maintain Thrawn as being morally ambiguous instead of just evil

[@GregPrice-ep2dk]

I think it's pretty clear after ep 8 of Ahsoka that Thrawn is going to have an army of Nightsisters as the core of his forces.

[@georgeleon1263]

Depends on several factors, such as how much territory do the imperial remnants still posses? How much military force including ships and l industrial defense capacity do they still retain after the end of the war and what’s their state of readiness?

[@Justicar333]

I'd expect something similar to the original Thrawn novels. Most of the Warlords hold onto the bulk of their own materials. Thrawn placating them but taking on a small fleet of only commanders he felt he could trust implicitly. Give us a season or two of him building up his forces, maybe convincing some of the Warlords to help more or with some other clever plan. It's hard to say, but I think at least for now Thrawn will have to stay mobile. The warlords even if they become loyal are scattered. Thrawn can't pick a place to concentrate himself without risk of an overwhelming New Republic response. But what he can do is keep them off balance with hit and fades, building what he needs while keeping the Senate from being convinced the to throw everything at once or at least forcing them to scatter in a search so he can pick his battles.

[@BillKermanKSP]

I feel like hardly anything happened in Ahsoka S1, I was expecting (or at least hoping for) a much faster pace. For example, that the events of episode 8 would already take place in episode 4 and so on. Apart from that, it was a bit predictable, which didn't help the slow pace.

[@Yodakaycool]

Thanks for ur commentary.

[@kengatehouse1566]

What was the game you are using during video, with the 3d ship models in battles?

[@marcusscott5363]

Hey Eckhart. Empire of the Hand would be insane to see here, but it's unclear where - or when, rather - in the new "canon" that Thrawn would've had time to establish it. =\

[@Gamer-gv7xn]

Unless they add the katana fleet, it’s gonna be basically zero since the remnant had next to no navy.

[@patrickfiller5197]

Honestly going after some caches of hidden Star destroyers, maybe they didn’t have enough crew to be taken into the unknown regions? Would be a lot like the search for the Katana fleet and very in character for Thrawn

[@ronanwaring3408]

If we get the bellator it would amazing. If Gideon is actually dead what ever is left of his forces will probably rally around thrawn, and there seems to be a lot of imperial sympathizers still running around unchecked, many of whom are probably quite capable soldiers/officers, engineers and even pilots

[@barricadedpurifier]

Had Season 3 of the Mandalorian not happened, Moth Gideon would probably still be alive serving under Thrawn with his retinue of soldiers cladded in Beskar. Let’s hope the Katana Fleet/Dark Force make a comeback in the new cannon.

[@PSNGP20]

I would like to see Thrawn actually win. Even though he may die in the process, maybe his victory will help create what will become the First Order and the Republic is at an armistace. As for the Katana fleet, maybe a large amount mothball ships from the clone wars or early Empire? Either way, Feloni's got this.

[@thomasmercado6328]

I know this is off topic, but what are the best recommended mods on steam for EAW? I got the game recently but it doesn't look similar to what Eck's gameplay looked like.

[@theshackledgamer799]

Being as the Chimera was lost, and the Pentastar Alignment has yet to be shown, maybe Gilad organized this neo-imperial faction from the SSD Reaper, which was the flagship of the faction. Further, Gilad may also have stashed the SSDs Megador and Dominion somewhere. In Legends, Pellaeon just happened upon them at a forgotten shipyard, but in this new cannon, Gilad would need some military advantage powerful enough to warrant a) his place on the Imperial Shadow Council and b) a means of leverage to force the other warlords in line behind Grand Admiral Thrawn. 3 SSDs would definitely fit the bill and if Gilad had recruited large entities of the Corporate Sector Authority, he would have the credits and the resources to both man his fleet and the ability to infiltrate large areas of New Republic industry, of which we already know has been done. Honestly, I just really want Pellaeon to be as big a player in cannon as he was in Legends😅

[@calebtaran9486]

I have a whole theory/story in my mind (mostly a story, I don't it'll be canon, but I just like to make up stories nonetheless) about how all this stuff going on with Thrawn might relate to the fall of Rae Sloane. I doubt any of this will come into the shows, but there seemed to be an implication that Sloane was ousted at some point by Snoke and the eventual pre-First Order leadership. What if the defeat of Thrawn is what allowed that to happen? As in, Sloane agreed more with Thrawn and wanted to support him since they have similar ideas on how a "reformed Empire" should look, so once he's defeated she's lost a ton of allies and Snoke and Brendol Hux get rid of her.

[@sachadipaolo6688]

From which series/film is the first scene that you put in the video?

[@Coconut-219]

"Whatever the plot requires"

[@mossyproductions7451]

I hope we get a look at another SSD class since we've only seen the Executor in Star Wars Canon movies and TV shows. I would like to see either a Bellator or maybe the Eclipse. Also I would sove to see the fractured imperial fleet dawn on a rebel-esque style fleet with many different ships

[@ChevronSeven]

I'm not fully up tp date in the new canon, but is it necessary for thrwan to act out his plan before the new trilogy, to preserve continuity? If not, could there perhaps be an inner imperial civil war pre-new-trilogy that results in the first order and Trawns imperial remnants separating, with Trawns remnants retreating to emerge sometime AFTER the new trilogy?

[@TheYoungOwl-2003]

Ever since I saw Grand Admiral Thrawn in Rebels I fell in love with him, I plan to read Heir to the Empire by 2024

[@itsrogue2]

they wont use the dark force from book two i say that thrawn decides to go after a secret cache of CIS battleships and crusisers

[@nerdwatch1017]

Man I wonder how things would’ve gone if Thrawn had been the main leader to command the Eclipse SSD leading the Empire off into the unknown regions. With no Sidious out there only a real version of Snoke that actually works alongside Thrawn. Snoke in charge of the Sith stronghold on exugol training soldiers to be more like Maul & Savage alongside force sensitive Special troopers that were not strong enough to become anything more. Merging the First order with other planets out there. Having a large fleet of both old ISD 1-2 upgraded working with the new resurgent class star destroyer. Going against a much more competent new republic that didn’t choose to disarm & dismantle all of there ships. Along with having Luke & Leia next to Ashoka Ezra Sabine & Grogu leading a NJO with about 50 jedi masters 100 jedi knights & 150 padawans. With the jedi close friends with the Mandalorian people leading to any force sensitive mandalorian found young enough there taken to a special training moon for the new hybrid Jedi/Mandalorian organization lead by Ezra Sabine & Grogu. Created by the new Mandalor duel leaders Djinn Djarin & Bo Katan whom are now married.

[@CMSgtSanders]

I have a feeling that most of the second season wont even have Thrawn hardly in it. I believe they will focus mainly on Hera getting to planet where sabine is and whatever Baylin is looking for. However i really would like to see the political tension when Thrawn contracts the imperial remnant! Gonna be epic!

[@AlphaAurora]

If Rebels and the Sequels are anything to go by.....it'll be like 7-8 Star Destroyers, and they get destroyed by a bunch of Y-wing/X-wing runs. Thrawn had a whole fleet on 8x ISDs, 15x Acquitens and 3x Gozantis around Lothal (Even though the fuel depot had been destroyed, supposedly housing the entire sector's fuel supply), and he got defeated and trashed by several X-wings. I doubt this time will be any different.

[@jarrodbright5231]

Pretty sure those caskets contain the sleeping Night Sisters to repopulate Dathomir, part of Thrawn's deal with the "Great Mothers" who will replace C'Baoth as his force sensitive advisors. I expect Season 2 of Ahsoka will start with Thrawn travelling to Wayland to pick up a "small - almost trivial - piece of technology", possibly along with a cloaking device for a later raid, who knows? I'd say the next season of the Bad Batch will show us what's going on there and whether this is a live possibility.

[@sc0ner783]

I think theyre going to tie the crimson fleet into the night sisters, giving us some spooky ships chasing down the republic

[@raymondrogers9580]

Yo ec what about Nala se and mount tantis in bad batch aligning with the eheir to the empire books...

[@OllamhDrab]

Well, the fun thing about Thrawn is, you know he's dangerous however much he gets to use. I presume it'll be significant, just from the setup.

[@jiyuhong5853]

For all we know, the entire 7th fleet was dragged away by the purgil. Thrawn could be hiding these ships somewhere. If we’re lucky, we could even get the Katana Fleet

[@XeoNIvan]

I hope Tharwn doesn't get killed at the end of this story arc but instead loses the end battle due to some Force-related factor that he couldn't fully predict. Gets saved by Ar'alani and Vanto at the last minute, moving on to his grander purpose of defeating the Grysk. I believe that could also be 'artistically done'.

[@vonpredator]

It’s interesting that you think that Disney has a idea of what is coming, or they care about cannon. It’s very noble of you trying to try to look at this discombobulated jumble of shorelines and try to fit the puzzle together…. I’d rather see your vision then what they’ve barfed out.

[@thewyatt3580]

Do we know if all the SSDs are dismantled and located? He could dismantle the scion and use those hyperdrives and build his own SSD. It's not like he needs the Scion anymore anyway.

[@davidcope3304]

I would love to see old Ice Heart and Imperial intelligence from legends show up as one of the factions

[@kainijman8408]

Hey Justin I just started playing Thrawns revenge are you still playing it on your second channel?

[@mattheweaton9111]

The aspire had thousands of battle ships and hundreds of dreadnaught. That dozen number is just the exsecutor class and actually there were 13 in canon and 50 in legends. Fun fact

[@baronjutter]

It'll be as powerful as written.

[@LackofFaithify]

We better get some Admiral Aralani love.

[@kennethriddle-ie2nu]

What about the shadow council which mentioned thrown in the mandalorian

[@dltafrc17]

the list of possibilities is almost endless i feel like. if thrawn somehow brings the Ascendancy into the galaxy along with Imperial remnants AND a katana fleet type esq then holy shit will daves movie be absolutely insane. i doubt itll be an all of the above but i wouldnt be surprised if he brings the remnants together and that leads to the battle of jakuu and is able to recover either ships from the new republic like at sluis van or a canon katana fleet. either way i think this movie has the ability to the biggest movie in box office history.

[@TheCJUN]

Regarding the timeline, is this set after the new movie trilogy (that ended with Palpatines return and destruction)?

[@evilbumblebee667]

I wonder if they will bring back to canon the Lusankya... i could see them maybe having thrawn make for coruscant to raise the SSD

[@omarbaba9892]

No no that is one of the most absurdly stupid moments of that timeline

[@PBellAU]

I have a feeling we could get a reverse Rogue One situation. With Thrawn and the remnant Empire utterly defeated, but with a few survivors escaping with or even just transmitting the plans for Starkiller base.

[@mightheal]

Starkiller base would most likely be in construction already since it's converting a planet the length it would need to be complete would be longer then what it took for the Death Star.

[@PBellAU]

Possibly, although the planet is already there, it might be less labour intensive than creating a moon sized station from scratch. Add to that the huge trench around the equator was already there from the extensive mining of Kyber crystals used for both death stars. @@mightheal

[@yordanberov8678]

@@mighthealIt is. Even during the Illum mission in Jedi: Fallen Order, the main equatorial trench was already visible

[@mightheal]

@@yordanberov8678 I forgot about that.

[@sirryz639]

if we get to see thrawns return again...i really want to see him a reasonable command ship or a battlwship for what he was build for

[@The_Lunch_Man]

I think right now we don't know much about the Remnant forces because they themselves don't know their own strengths. Most warlords probably aren't part of the shadow council, which means most Imperial assets are unknown as they retreated to their own fiefs or simply into deep space, and do not share anything with each other. The shadow council itself seems to very much distrust each other, so while they nominally cooperate, they seem more willing to WANT assets, but not to GIVE any. So they are keeping their cards closer to their chests. There's still the core worlds Imperial rump state, that acknowledged the Galactic Concordance. They could mothball their main fleets, but I doubt they'd totally destroy it. Probably hid them or clandestinely donated the ships they couldn't legally have to other warlords. All these different remnant factions will undoubtedly control planets, outposts and shipyards, but with fractured they are, i doubt they can really produce anything new. But united under Thrawn? I bet that could change.

[@FrontLinePub]

It's like the weapons on the Imperial Star Destroyers are accurate or cause much damage.

[@iamsnotcolors3673]

What do you think of Star Wars Squadrons? Is there any lore in that game worth talking about?

[@bobbyhill5067]

People forget about Admiral Daala’s fleet with her half finished DS-1 hidden in the Maw Installation without knowing that Tarkin died and the Empire fractured 😮

[@DarthBaras13]

I think what would be interesting to see is which Imperial factions decide not to join Thrawn. Even though he was promoted to the rank of Grand Admiral by Palpatine, he was discriminated against throughout his time in the Imperial Navy because he was not human (as described in the first canon Thrawn novel). So even though he is ranked higher than most officers in the Imperial Remnant, there would probably be some that would prefer not to work with Thrawn because of their xenophobic attitudes. It would be interesting if we were to get a scene of this in the next season of Ashoka or in another Mando-verse show.

[@DrJay-iy8rv]

Fans: Have thrawn build the fleet using imperial remnant resources Writers: Magic fleet using the Nightsisters.

[@kevinbryer2425]

They could very easily do an entire series which details Thrawn's efforts to consolidate his hold on the Imperial Remnants. It could run parallel to the Mandalorian season 4, which details the exploits of Din, Grogu, Zeb, and Ezra taking missions from Carson Tova and Hera to surveil or sabotage Thrawn's efforts to consolidate the Imperial Remnants. Meanwhile, Ahsoka and Sabine tie up loose ends with Baylan and Shin before returning to the galaxy. The great thing about Thrawn is that he is not inherently evil. He is trying to create an ally in the known galaxy to help protect his people in the unknown galaxy. The New Republic stands in his way. But the New Republic, like the republic before it, is weak. He can solve problems, provide security, and command respect in trouble spots throughout the galaxy where the New Republic can't, without resorting to the kind of cruelty the Emperor reveled in.

[@knightingale9833]

It would be epic to get an entire Thrawn series

[@kineuhansen8629]

if i should gues thrawn fleet it would be a few isd and some victory 1 dreadnought cruisers aka katana fleet gozanti cruisers interdictor star destroyer Class 546 Cruiser for fighters i love to see some normal ties and tie defender/elite perhaps we could see the tie hunter as a early first order fighter

[@reallybigmistake]

does anyone think that since Ahsoka, Ezra, Sabine and Hera do not show up or are even mentioned in the Disney movies and all comics, books that are set in that era that Thrawn ends up taking all up them out before he is taken down himself?