Why Thrawn's 7th Fleet was Three Times Larger than Normal Imperial Fleets

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[@Indo-Fury6521]

Can you do a top 10 Features of the Helicarrier from the MCU since you did top 10 flaws with the Hulk buster please.

[@adeptuscustodies8203]

Please make a video where the galactic republic with the jedi attack earth

[@QurikyBark32919]

Here’s a video idea. Would there be any military memorials in the Star Wars universe? Like a preserved Venator available for public visitation like USS Missouri?

[@jahollan]

@@flamewater6639 lall

[@jahollan]

@@flamewater6639 llll

[@childishisnotachild7277]

When Tharwn comes backs to the star Wars galaxy, I seriously want him to win battles without any plot armor getting in his way, finally showing how dangerous Thrawn's Tactical and strategical mind to it's full potential really is. And now at the defeat in the hands of Ezra possibly his first defeat or one of, Thrawn will ultimately learn from his mistakes and become more powerful than ever before.

[@roger632]

Since we can assume that Ezra is his prisoner, perhaps he'll return the favor by making Ezra a slave to his will, as a result. (Or somehow forcefully turning him to the Dark Side, via endless torture or something)

[@CylixTheGamer]

@@roger632 Thrawn can be pragmatic, but he is not cruel.

[@roger632]

@@CylixTheGamer True. Maybe Thrawn might at least attempt to gain Ezra's support and rally him to his side, by showing him the potential Grysk threat looming over the galaxy.

[@dogkungfu8510]

@@roger632 imho, Rebels set up a long term situation where Ezra and Thrawn need each other to survive. Their past roles as enemies is irrelevant. Thrawn and a Jedi with a decent amount of troops and equipment... what fun!

[@wow7dayz]

Interestingly, with Ezra & Thrawn being together it does set up a potential Heir to the Empire storyline. Instead of Jorus C’Baoth, Thrawn could use Ezra as his “dark Jedi” substitute. It does set up some plot lines that would have to be changed, but I think it would be a good transition, considering the series was written way before rebels or clone wars was a thing.

[@Mgauge]

This is one of many reasons why Thrawn should have been the villain for any sequel stories rather than the incompetence of the First Order and Zombie Palpatine in a trench coat.

[@shadowslayer9988]

Thrawn and his remnants of the empire should have taken a good portion of the new republics territory and fought a long war with them ending in them signing a peace treaty to end the war. Where they would end up coexisting togather which could set up the Yuuzhan vong invasion.

[@ImInSpainWithoutTheS]

@@shadowslayer9988 personally, i have a gut feeling something *might* happen like this eventually in live action

[@shadowslayer9988]

@@ImInSpainWithoutTheS if they do it they should change the Yuuzhan vong back story a little and have them come from the unknown regions. They should also tell the story from the new republic and the remnants of the empires perspective.

[@Alphatrillon]

@@shadowslayer9988 Why Unknown regions and where? The chiss and the grisk are already there, Them coming from a "Far far away galaxy" makes it a paradox an incredible one.

[@danmoss1685]

@@shadowslayer9988 in the "new cannon" the grys take the place of the vong. Thanks to Timothy Zahn. Bless his heart in trying to make eu stuff more awesome.

[@Aelxi]

Man hearing about all that Imperial Hierarchy, Admiralty really makes me want more Imperial Briefing scenes just like in A New Hope. I enjoy listening Galactic command in their British accents talking about deployments, war counselling, planning etc etc etc.

[@doctorfeelgood2670]

I agree. Its interesting to actually hear them speak about strategy and everything else to do with battle. Its kinda the same with the Senate for me. It brings Star Wars back to reality a little bit lol.

[@lordoblivion8038]

I do admit it was interesting. Keep in mind. Not everyone are like us nor like you. Remember people wanted to watch movies and entertainment not boring talks and talks of strategic and what not.

[@muhammadhamza1528]

Its the general census that thats why the Prequels failed(Because of the military,politics etc),I dont like those themes but people didnt 15 years ago and Disneys not going to take that risk

[@davidbarry282]

Definately, just imagine Tarkin saying the remaining rebels will be placed in the British museum

[@SPSD458853]

be great but in todays hollywood they wouldnt keep it to the white male theme as Lucas set up for a reason(he based the empire as the Nazis)

[@Jackrabbit_Slim]

Loved that the Empire was Xenophobic but they were still so impressed by him that he still made top gun

[@robertnelson9599]

Shows how impressive he is.

[@calebleach7988]

I mean, he did look *mostly* human still. But yeah, a man skilled in tactics, a love of art, able to notice small details, decent with range weapons, and a skilled hand-to-hand fighter? What's not to love?

[@Jackrabbit_Slim]

@@calebleach7988 well said

[@michaelangelomaimone3181]

They also worked alongside Shistavenan irregulars with some regularity. Although we don’t get to see them often in Star Wars media (which is a shame because seeing a pack of those damn werewolves tear apart or pick off a rebel patrol would be pretty chilling)

[@janinejohnstone468]

@Jack Der Hauptmann💀 Same reason why Maul got double crossed by Pre Vizsla, then betrayed by Bo Katan when he was Manda'lore; to the detriment of his loyal troops. Ultimately this, and the decisions of Duchess Satine, led to the virtual destruction of Mandalore itself.

[@KrypticElement]

The TIE Defender project > the Death Star project

[@havco501st7]

Had they have more tie Defender projects the rebellion would be screwed

[@3Rayfire]

By a LOT!

[@anydaynow01]

Yep TIE Defenders + more Executor class dreadnoughts. Then send them into wild space to recruit more Chiss into the imperial command structure. The second death star and the Ewoks were such a joke in Episode VI, the second half of that movie was the beginning of the end for cinematic Star Wars. It should have been a raid on Imperial dock yards in orbit around Kashyyyk.

[@mish375]

​@@anydaynow01If Thrawn was running things during the Battle of Endor, the Empire wouldn't have lost.

[@allglorytothefather4186]

I did some calculation from the imperial handbook. The Death Star housed 2,799,400 personnel, 27,608 secondary weapon systems and 15,264 starships and vehicles, almost half of which were TIE fighters. (7000) The Emperor should’ve funded Thrawn’s TIE fighter program instead of the Death Star, because now the Empire’s down all those resources, not to mention Grand Moff Tarkin, a personal favorite of Palpatine.

[@dennisyoung6122]

He really should have been the star of episodes 7-9. The Thrawn trilogy will always be the true sequals to me. With the remnants of the Empire on the run and the New Republic solidifying their hold he united the remaining fleets and nearly won in the end.

[@madelinegarber7860]

Totally agreed. And I love that he was ultimately killed by his own assassin not the good guys. I hope the same thing happens in the upcoming series.

[@TheGeoCheese]

@@madelinegarber7860 that is such an anticlimactic ending and the only reason why Thrawn’s campaign ended that way was because he was too strong. There was not a real way to adequately defeat Thrawn without the excessive blatant use of plot armor.

[@thegreenmanofnorwich]

I would have liked a combination of Thrawn and Isard, as I find them both interesting, and they would understand that the other would seek to eliminate them at some point.

[@matthewhelland9258]

@@TheGeoCheese True, even Timothy Zahn admitted it.

[@williampaz2092]

I was unbelievably disappointed when I found out that Grand Admiral Thrawn was NOT the basis of chapters 7+. What a waste of potential! And Walt Disney cheated themselves out of one of the best Characters in all of the Star Wars Universe: Mara Jade. Rey Skywalker (BUNK! BALONEY! HORSE HOCKEY! GOOSE FEATHERS!) couldn’t hold an unlit candle to Mara Jade.

[@anthonygarcia6229]

Thrawn's only fault is that he wished to teach other officers to see things the way he does and make them better. This works out well 90% of the time, but when he runs into people who refuse to learn like Konstanine, he usually doesn't see it until their idiocy ruins his well laid out plan.

[@mish375]

They might combine Legends material for that. In Heir to the Empire, he had Rukh kill a Lieutenant that lost Luke when he pulled a stunt that got him out of the Chimaera's tractor beam. But Thrawn explained afterwards that he couldn't teach someone who had so little a mind in a war which is a zero sum game. The lieutenant had blamed his error on his superior officer instead of taking responsibility for his mistake and working to correct it. Thrawn leaves the superior officer alive because he had made an oversight in training and admitted it. Generally, Thrawn only executes someone who refuses to learn. Sadly many in the Empire are incompetent due to the corruption in the ranks.

[@ortizguard2816]

The only ship missing from Thrawn's fleet was an anti-space whale cruiser.

[@charlessaint7926]

What they needed was the Pequod captained by Ahab.

[@limjahey3119]

@@charlessaint7926 LMFAO. ISD Pequod, Admiral Ahab

[@kittycat0876]

😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

[@straswa]

Victory class ISD retrofitted with harpoons perhaps?

[@anydaynow01]

There was a part of me hoping all through reading Dark Force Rising (and a "retcon" while watching Rebels) that Palpatine would have given Thrawn a second Executor class dreadnought and a fleet to conquer wild space (maybe in pursuit of some force channeling artifacts), kind of like the Musashi to Vader's Yamato.

[@Pooperz100]

when thrawn returns, i wouldn’t want him to be a villain that gets defeated by the good guys but rather a neutral character or at least an “anti-villain” who has his own agenda and serves to either make deals with the protagonists or serve as a third party i could see him emerging from the unknown regions having either rejoined the chiss, managed an empire of the hand-inspired imperial remnant or a little of both as a pragmatist and an intellectual, it’d make more sense for thrawn to have extremely complex and mysterious but ultimately reasonable goals

[@frankdees507]

Have a kinda Michael Corleone ending huh? Defeats all his enemies and adversaries, and is only burdened and heartbroken for all those lost along the way. Competition wise though, he nevertheless outsmarts both his enemies and the police his entire career as Godfather.

[@alanfriesen9837]

Thrawn's single weakness was his inability to navigate the politics. I don't think he could run an empire unless all of the politically powerful families were somehow destroyed.

[@sumanadasawijayapala5372]

@@alanfriesen9837 That was in Zahn's later books where he made Thrawn a nice guy. Not in his original trilogy.

[@Spaceisprettybig]

I'll actually be shocked if that's not where they go with him. It would make fore better drama, and they're not going to be able to squeeze an entire evil empire between the events of 6 and 7.

[@jameskandosii240]

I’d love to see him come back and raid the Emperors store houses and the Maw and steal lots of tech and see him use that to his advantage while working with backing from the chiss. Idk what his goal will be but I wanna see those things happen :)

[@kitfo18]

The only thing that surprises me about it is that he would want so many ISD's. I am surprised that he didn't trade with other fleet commanders to get smaller smarter ships for some of those ISD's.

[@iona2225]

Especially considering how strategically fluid and mobile Rebel Alliance fleet tactics could get.

[@trevornation9822]

@@iona2225 I’m honestly surprised thrawn didn’t Star putting forth more resorces to get a hold of more types of fighters for more versatility

[@power-armoured_german9856]

That's because contrary to rebel Propaganda the ISD is a fantastic Capital ship

[@lukedalton]

@@power-armoured_german9856 sure it's a fantastic Capital Ship and in fleet to fleet battle is a killer, unfortunely is totally unsuited for the role given her in the Galactic Civil war as she is to expensive and need too many men and frankly they have hardly enough of them as the Galaxy is immense and to fight that kind of war you need something of more mobile and cheap to mantain like the light cruiser of Rebels and Mandalorian

[@BradTheTryHard]

@@lukedalton if I recall the high crew was intentional to keep people to have jobs

[@jonathan4158]

Because Thrawn is one the best Star Wars villains ever existed.

[@YourMomsHouseLikeJody]

villain to the rest of the universe, hero to his people.

[@albertoswald8461]

Best character period!!!

[@DS9TREK]

@Jack Der Hauptmann💀 No such thing as a benevolent dictator, cos there's always someone opposing them.

[@alanfriesen9837]

Yeah, I don't see him as a villain.

[@DarksaberForce]

I place him along with Darths Revan and Malgus

[@jimjohnston5719]

Thrawn’s tactical skill came from studying the culture and art of his Target, learning how they react to things. Such as sneaking a cloaked vessel into a planet’s atmosphere before showing himself, so that the planetary shield appeared to be ineffective against his weaponry. He knew the race he was facing would immediately and unequivocally surrender if they thought their defenses were useless. Literally took a planet with one single turbo laser blast.

[@banzeyegaming2234]

That’s from legends, right? Didn’t that trick only work because he had the clone of C’boath on his side, and the Dark Jedi used the Force to help the crews of the different vessels coordinate?

[@jameskandosii240]

@@banzeyegaming2234 exactly, it’s still a super fun idea tho :)

[@maximomartin2529]

Thrawn was really tactical, reasonable, and just truly smart. But he lost many fights in Star Wars Rebels, because many of his officers failed to co operate with his plans.

[@lilchaos9212]

Yeah I feel like it made a lot of sense and didn't discount Thrawn as an enemy. When left to his own devices, his plans worked and he nearly destroyed the Rebellion on Atollon. The show laid the groundwork, showing how the Rebellion early on gained a good bit of ground because of Imperial incompetency. Many high-ranking Imperials aside from Thrawn and Kallus underestimated the Rebels and didn't take them as a serious threat. Thrawn at the end of the day was beaten fairly because Ezra used what he had no knowledge of, his main weapon, in against him.

[@maximomartin2529]

@@lilchaos9212 True... Good point.

[@MrBarnettcm]

Welcome to the world of egos im this way Star Wars accurately mirrors life

[@maximomartin2529]

@@MrBarnettcm Ok???

[@MrBarnettcm]

@@maximomartin2529 dafuq you want? It’s a general statement based off your general assessment lol

[@Darkmoon67]

The ISD I's actually have half decent point defense systems, that's why Thrawn favoured the Chimera to any ISD II, he knew the Rebels and he knew of their hit and run roles, that was a large reason as to why he was so effective, he knew the rebels and used the weapons necessary to defeat a mobile force.

[@user-vt2cr8qd1b]

0:22 I'm pretty sure Thrawn wasn't actually exiled. He was only pretending to be exiled so he could attract and sneak onto an imperial ship. He was probably doing this as part a mission by the Chiss to understand the Empire.

[@inquisitorialcandidate-1237]

Yep, you're right. It was shown in Ascendancy book 3

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@inquisitorialcandidate-1237 it was explained in book 1 of the non ascendancy canon Thrawn trilogy

[@moonlight30234]

No he was Exile because the Chiss needed to blame someone. But it was Thrawn and Ba'kif plan as well so Thrawn can go out and find The Galatic Empire and ask for help from the threat of the Brisk.

[@LibraMiku271]

Thrawn's 7th Fleet reminds me of the Coruscant defense Fleet during the Clone Wars, the Kuat Ship Yards defending the unfinished Eclipse class Star Dreadnought, 2nd Death Star fleet... and the Supremacy Mega class Star Dreadnought Fleet. On the other hand... for me on Star Wars Empire at War Forces of Corruption... I mostly had one mega fleet that had the 2nd Death Star and at least 10 of each ship types in the fleet... and the score was around 250... that's massive with Grand Moff Tarkin taking command of the fleet with 6 space fleet commanders

[@Blitzwing-ne1ru]

The Supremacy or whatever isn't canon.

[@LibraMiku271]

@@Blitzwing-ne1ru okay that doesn't stop me from liking a huge sizable fleet in Star Wars now can I?

[@banzeyegaming2234]

@@Blitzwing-ne1ru Doesn’t stop a cool ship from being a cool ship.

[@marcusanton95]

Thrawn was the only Imperial I routed for, I have mad respect for his character. I knew he had to lose, but I wasn't looking forward to seeing him fall.

[@EmmanuelRodriguez-ny6io]

Can't wait to see a live action Thrawn in Star Wars. Also, would you ever consider doing a video on Obi-Wan and his different lightsabers? I think it would be an interesting idea to look into, especially with the Kenobi show starting soon. Keep being awesome!

[@JB-yb4wn]

That would be interesting, especially since Allen is selling them on the black market. 🤨

[@black11189]

Different lightsaber ? He got like 2...

[@grandadmiralthrawn9231]

I'm looking forward to seeing him in live action too but I just pray that they use the voice he had in rebels. it's just so monotone, calm and just chilling. even if they use a different actor as the face and then voiceover using the actor in rebels. it would be perfect

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@grandadmiralthrawn9231 Iacta alea est, it is Lars Mikkelsen, his bio looks good for the part.

[@MrBarnettcm]

Please no obi wan stuff until the obi wan atrocity Disney calls a series has faded into history and been recognized as bad fan fiction.

[@euansolaru5247]

I know it’s very unlikely but I want thrawns return to mirror his legends one. Uniting the remnants of the empire and launching a campaign against the NR. Live action massive fleet battles and things like that

[@oXRaptorzXo]

I wish

[@spiffygonzales5899]

@@oXRaptorzXo No you don't. It's like when Disney did dark empire. Ya know... episode 9.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@spiffygonzales5899 ep 9 is not dark empire at all besides the fact that palpatine comes back. And Thrawn wouldn’t be handled by those people

[@spiffygonzales5899]

@@oXRaptorzXo Sure they wouldn't man. Sure they wouldn't.

[@saviorselfX29]

@@oXRaptorzXo Palpatine comes back with an insanely large fleet of new Star Destroyers, and shows that he hasn’t given up his obsession with attaching planet-killing super-lasers to his ships. It’s totally Dark Empire.

[@jamesfarquhar8507]

Alan must have every star wars vid clip ever on his hard-drive, and all the books probably memorized the first time he read them! Alan has a very respectable obsession and he's a great communicator too, it's like he really is doing this to share his fascination with us, not just to make content and $$$,$$$

[@user-Jay178]

I always though it was because he was a grand admiral and won many battles

[@BernieGolgo13]

The 7th Fleet was not too large for Thrawn to control. In fact, I like how he would not expose his entire fleet in one assault or campaign. He was like a space version of the sand people. He likes to hide his fleet's numbers until it is too late. He also liked using unorthodox strategies like the Marg Sabl maneuver. In all, he was like Sherlock Holmes in space when solving issues the empire needed to take care of.

[@isaackim7675]

If the late Governor Arynda Pryce hadn’t screwed up on Lothal, she and Thrawn would’ve been a power couple.

[@robertnelson9599]

I bet Pryce would overstep her bounds and piss off Thrawn at some point.

[@grisom5863]

If you knew about the first book, you'd know he chose her not because he wanted to be around her especially when he suspected she blew up a city, but he needed her at the time. But at that point she started to outlive her usefulness.

[@CHRF-55457]

He didn't even wanted her

[@cjclark2002]

Because he knew his enemy, culturally and personally. That on top of his analytical mind made him near impervious.

[@stevelenox152]

I personally think that there should of been more Tie Defenders as they were so much better than the standard Tie Fighter as for the size of his fleet I think it was just right for someone with his battle style

[@shayminister4922]

Unfortunately his tie defenders needed funding, and priority was given to the Death Star, despite the director’s assistant seeing the power and efficiency of the defenders in action against the Grysk warships

[@stevelenox152]

@Jack Der Hauptmann💀 interesting idea but there is a problem with that if you remember that all of the prototypes and the people that were working on it joined up with the Rebellion so he wouldn't of been able to get them the same is pretty much said for the Y wing still great suggestion

[@stevelenox152]

@Jack Der Hauptmann💀 huh I thought that all of the plans as well as the prototypes were taken by the Rebellion

[@stevelenox152]

@Jack Der Hauptmann💀 hmm hadn't thought of that

[@alanfriesen9837]

I would agree. The lives of those pilots have value, especially if they're experienced combatants.

[@necro8463]

Can’t wait to see more of Thrawn!! Great video as always!

[@johnassal5838]

I remember in the old EU a sector fleet was generally 32 victory class/ISDs plus an unspecified number of smaller frigates, assault cruisers and smaller. At least for the core sectors. Admittedly it's not as easy to wrap your head around all those ships and associated fighters in the various games but these smaller fleets don't mesh as well with how the Empire overkills everything, everytime.

[@JibAjabba87]

I just started re reading Thrawn Alliances yesterday. What perfect timing for a Thrawn video!

[@Tracey122872]

Bro Love your delivery and flow Keep it going

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Could you do a video about what would happen if the Jedi were successful in stopping Order 66 and Palpatine? I’m just imagining the chaos that would ensue with the power vacuum in the Senate, the Separatists reorganizing, and the clone troopers at risk of being tossed aside earlier than they were, if only by a few months to a few years earlier. I would imagine the only good thing that would happen right away would be the Jedi Order saving their reputation.

[@robertnelson9599]

That sounds like a great video.

[@robertagu5533]

They STILL wouldn't and didn't have a reconstituted, well trained and we'll equipped personal non Clone Army of their own.. so toss the whole army out is too basically automatically lose the war... The Seps NEVER knew they was being played as a sham anyways so they'd not stopped they'd just steamrolled it all an took over. Most rest sounds alright but the Clones woulda stuck till end of the war. Just in Palpatine's absence there's not much of a dictatorship or alot more worse orders then "66"

[@Dock284]

glad you have posted another video

[@antikoerper256]

Very well done video!

[@Connor_Top_Lad]

this is a really good and well made video

[@Starwarslegorob]

Thank you Tech I will always follow Alan !

[@alexurbjr]

This is my favorite Star Wars channel and I'm subscribed to a lot of them!

[@TK199999]

In Legends Admiral Zarin was supposedly responsible for creating the cheaper TiE AVENGER (from the TiE Advanced) and for modifying the TiE Defender for mass production. Since appears that Zarin found was to make both starfighters cheaper and easier to make. Which is why they were later intended to replace all TiE fighters.

[@krisserniak761]

Keep it up great content

[@wolfu597]

Alan, my allegiance as well are to the Republic. But when it comes to Thrawn, I would've fought on the side of the Empire.

[@jamiesauce12]

I had just Read the Thrawn book and it's neat that it has come up here on my watch page

[@Paulnoter55]

Okay, so I'm not read up on Canon as opposed to Legends, but regarding the ISD-1 vs. ISD-2 and their differences at around the 6:50 timestamp: There are several additional differences in Legends regarding the ISD-2, the most notable of which were replacing the heavy dual turbolaser batteries on either side of the bridge with octuple-turbolaser batteries. Additionally, they featured more powerful shields, a reduction in what few point defense batteries existed on the ISD-1, and (in some sources, it's not always consistent) swapped out ion cannons for additional turbolasers. Different games and media have had different interpretations but it seems like the ISD-1 was an all-rounder (as much as the Empire made all-rounders in their capitals, anyways), while the ISD-2 was definitively meant to engage in ship-to-ship warfare. While dual heavy turbolasers are deadly in their own right, *most* media has portrayed the octuple turbolaser batteries as being especially deadly in capital ship battles.

[@Turd420]

I wanted that sierra snowboard so bad back in the day. hope it's been a good ripper!

[@straswa]

Great void genTech. I really wish we could have seen a few Victory class ISDs in Rebels as well.

[@frostfang7670]

Isn't this because Thrawn is part of the twelve Grand Admirals, so he has more then average forces? Wish Lucasfilm incorporated more of the legends lore. Parts of legends lore was indeed flawed but still pretty cool.

[@jawstrock2215]

I think it's more that Thrawn had no issue using different types of ships. His fleet is pretty unique in that sense.

[@nebunezz_r]

It's more on Thrawn being more comfortable in using less massive ship in exchange for extreme flexibility, again, he's born and raised to fight a naval guerilla warfare.

[@jawstrock2215]

@@nebunezz_r Thrawn always gave me the vibe, that he likes to have unusual, unused or rare ships or droid, just because opponents would not know how to deal with them.

[@lordvanazir1007]

i was always curious as to why Thrawn never had any lancer class ships in his fleet, would have thought he would jump and the chance to add a good number of these ships to bolster his anti fighter defenses for his fleet, especially when dealing with a more mobile fighter dependent rebellion.

[@walkerhartge9177]

He was also given control of a prototype anti-fighter called the Lancer which did not appear in the show. But it had 22 quad rapid-fire laser cannons, anti-fighter missiles and cluster bombs.

[@saviorselfX29]

Ahhh, the Lancer-class frigate, the bane of every starfighter pilot in the Rebel and New Republic fleet! I miss those things …

[@walkerhartge9177]

@@saviorselfX29 do you have the game empire at war on steam and if you do, do you have the mod thrawn's revenge?

[@forevermarked5826]

Just seen Thrawn in the trailer for Ashoka series coming! We finally getting him in life action!!

[@crumb167]

excellent video

[@johnw391]

Star Wars has the worst tactics. On the side of rebel command they wasted what ships they had trying to beat a larger force when they could of gone any direction the forward.

[@TheZombielayer]

@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket I think the battle at the start of Revenge of the Sith has ships in a more 3D battle. Then of course you've got the original Clone wars (The Tartakovsky one) which has I think the same battle but the ships are all in different positions as opposed to Ep3 where they're just on a different levels but all the right way up.

[@reidveryan9414]

ISD-II also has has a more reinforced hull and both heavier and more numerous turbolaser emplacements.

[@yarnickgoovaerts]

Can you do more videos on units and commanders within the imperial army?

[@grandadmiralthrawn7457]

I agree with your assessment.

[@smallmj2886]

In the 90's Tie Fighter game, which featured Thrawn rising from Vice Admiral to Grand Admiral, his fleet featured Imperial Star Destroyers, Victory Star Destroyers, Interdictors, and Nebulon B Frigates.

[@jawstrock2215]

Thrawn just used anything he could get his hands on.

[@CCCCC40]

This was great!

[@FlymanMS]

It seems like Thrawn was given a cumbersome unwieldy battle hammer or axe while he was more used to nimble weapons like a longsword or a rapier, but being a good commander and a skilled fighter, he managed to do his best with tools he's been given.

[@double0bigby]

star destroyer carried an imperial wing which was 72 TIE fighters and 6 support shuttles. the difference between a ISD 1 and an ISD 2 was the isd 2 traded the majority of its ion cannon load out for for heavy turbo laser batteries.....

[@aidenhughes5655]

Perhaps Palpatine should have accommodated Thrawn's talents better and allowed him to design and command a fleet which he was capable of using to his maximum advantage. Assigning Thrawn as an elite hunter-exterminator of rebel cells and forces would be the most effective use of a mobile fleet admiral of his caliber.

[@bobulationnation]

Actually when Thrawn first appears in the books he had mostly victory class star destroyers because they were quicker an cheaper to build so he could have an use many of them and gave him a better tactical advantage

[@KOSUnlimited21]

And then he acquires most of the Katana fleet as well.

[@laverniustucker8198]

Rae Sloane's fleet was big enough to rival the 7th fleet

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Thrawn would likely win though

[@mr.tobacco1708]

But most likely would lose against Thrawn.

[@Indo-Fury6521]

Can you do a top 10 Features of the Helicarrier from the MCU since you did top 10 flaws with the Hulk buster please

[@lordvader5756]

Isn't it strange how Trawn's favourite ship was the interdictor which stops smaller fleets from running away but he is used to fighting w larger fleets in his years with the Chiss fleet.

[@brittanyjtaylor2638]

They better not massacre our boy! Don’t forget his nuance and loyalty to the Chiss!!!!!

[@IcyBrickzStudios]

Yeah!

[@matejkar6664]

Some of the ship lengths and classifications mentioned in the video i think are a bit off. I might be wrong, but from what i know, the Arquitens is exactly 325m long.. and the Immobilizer class SD is misclassified. The real classification is "Immobilizer-418 class heavy cruiser", and its built on the hull of a Vindicator class heavy cruiser, making it exactly 600m long.

[@pikeman777]

Thrawn should have been the founder and leader of the First Order. Further prove there was no plan for the sequel trilogy.

[@kaylahills3760]

Agree

[@Death-bd1tl]

While true; its also unlikely we would of seen a ship like the resurgent. And Considering his age, I doubt he would of lived to the sequels (Considering he was probably in his mid to late 40s, and then stack up 34 years ontop)

[@jawstrock2215]

@@Death-bd1tl how long sdo Chiss lives

[@NickJaime]

What I always thought would be cool would be seeing a carrier like ship alongside these star destroyers.

[@JeffreyRandall]

Allen have you started any series about what happened after the fall of the second Death Star? I mean Thrawn I believe would have went after a shipyard and a piece of the Galaxy.

[@michaelpolydorou5678]

what a fanstatic post thank you for this , can confirm , the action videos of battles and thrawn sequences are from STAR WARS REBELS ,but comics are these comic from the marvel universe , i am asking where i can get all this brilliant entertainment to view and read /?

[@Techrat3D]

If Thrawn would have been in command of the imperial fleet during ESB or ROTJ, then the rebellion would have seriously been in a huge pile pf Bantha Poodoo.

[@dominikfabos4520]

I just watched the s3 finale and this came out exactly when i finished 😱 The will of the force this js

[@NYG1991]

Tarkin & Thrawn were the 2 most gifted tacticians in the Imperial Navy. They are both similar in so many ways. I don’t even know who’s smarter. I read Tarkin. Good book. I’m up to the last novel in the Ascendancy trilogy. Check it out.

[@jawstrock2215]

Tarkin understood the political field, and he played that game very well. Thrawn is the better tactician.

[@NYG1991]

@@jawstrock2215, I agree. If you think about Tarkin could play both sides of the ball thus giving him a slighter advantage over Thrawn.

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

when I played Starwars rebellion (the old game) I usually skipped building the death star and focused on tie defenders and lancer cruisers, which pretty much nullified the rebel's advantage of insanely good fighter units. early game I had to play defensively because the rebels just had too much mobility and the starfighters were so good that my star destroyers were pretty much dead meat after I lose the fighter screens, but after I reach the tie defender researcher, the empire suddenly becomes just as mobile as the rebels and the already better capital ships get to finally shine when they are not being gang R***ed by swarms of X AND Y wings.

[@YourMomsHouseLikeJody]

we need a full blown thrawn series, and it should be named "Thrawns Legacy".

[@ecargfosreya]

What would probably happen is the show would be called thrawn and we'd have about four out of six of the episodes about somebody else entirely. Can he be a minor character in his own series. Trust me though, I'm a huge fan of all the thrawn books and I wish that that were true as well. Or even some sort of strategy game where you play as him

[@kaylahills3760]

From when I'm seen from Disney quality, I believe we should wait for 10 years until we get a proper story group to make a Thrawn series.

[@jawstrock2215]

We are still waiting for a full Vader series, so forget about Thrawn :/

[@BernieGolgo13]

Thrawn is one of may favorite characters. No Force power and all wits. A formidable foe but a great ally on your side.

[@nickolasoriano1143]

Highly interesting video 🧐🧐

[@doctoronishispsychosislab1474]

Generation Tech restoring my faith in starwars 1 video at a time

[@doteman92]

Once we get to see Thrawn again, will we see the Grysk? Also, what will be the condition of both the 7th fleet and Chiss. when we see him?

[@XLeon_S_KennedyX]

Hoping one day to see Thrawn's return. He's just too damn good as a SW villain.

[@fenrizsharp3938]

Ahsoka show

[@Svensk7119]

Originally, the Chimaera was one of the ships that survived the Battle of Endor, and Thrawn chose it when he came from the Unknown Regions. And the Dreadnaughts originally were the first transport that escaped Hoth only scaled up.

[@Alphatrillon]

What? Chimera wasen't in endor, nor anywhere while the empire collapsed he was in the unknown regions, He didn't pick it either it was assigned to him uppon his promotion to comodore. Take the fun and read the books.

[@fenrizsharp3938]

Thats legends...

[@StefanBurns]

Love the star wars info as always, FYI I made it to Poland and am successfully volunteering in Krakow helping Ukrainian refugees. Thanks again for the lead and pointing me in the right direction!

[@tonyjackson4078]

Thrawn was big on having his men supplied appropriately, with effective gear to carry out missions. He wasn't big on "canon fodder/disposable numbers" way most higher up Imperials treated their rank and file.

[@paulmcnutt4657]

Of any one in the Imperial Navy deserving of a SSD, it’s Thrawn. I’ve wondered why, as a grand admiral he didn’t have a Super Star Destroyer as his flagship. Was this personal preference? Or was it related to how he tended to frown on the bigger=better Tarkin doctrine?

[@lukedalton]

More because exist only a dozen of them and he is probably the last of the list of who get them due to him being an alien

[@asliceofcheese7152]

He refused to be given a super star destroyer cuz it was too bulky and slow and just merely a show of power instead of being actually useful

[@jawstrock2215]

yeah, Thrawn was big on more smaller, but capable ships, then few big ones. Number gave him possibilities of tactics, while big ship are, usually sitting ducks, 1 system at a time.

[@roellek16]

Thrawn in the EU (Legends) Was way cooler and scarier in the Novels. He'd make his plans due to a people's artwork. Soo much so that Captain Pellaeon used to compair Admiral Dalla's plans to how Thrawn would do it. Kinda belittleing her, to her face. "That's not how Grand Admiral Thrawn would do it"

[@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462]

Agreed. Anything in the EU is a million times better than canon.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

The canon stuff is actually super cool, especially the first book.

[@twat9192]

@@oXRaptorzXo until he gets beaten by plot armour that makes rey's look weak

[@oXRaptorzXo]

@@twat9192 in the books he isn’t beaten that’s just in rebels because it’s a kids show

[@jawstrock2215]

The newer Thrawn trilogy is considered Cannon I though. And he's still the same old Thrawn in there, probably even more sympathetic because of the backstory and the Chiss ascendancy connection.

[@johncunningham4820]

Thrwn had no problems controlling his Fleet . What he COULDN'T control was an Ezra Bridger with an Axe to Grind .

[@ralphrios1600]

i hope we get Thrawn but the Yuuzhan Vong in the future as well!

[@fenrizsharp3938]

Doubt those will return, though the thrawn books have introduced an equally formidable enemy

[@KomradeMatt]

Imperial IIs had more firepower than Imperial Is. Their broadside duel mounted turrets where replaced with octuple mounted turbolasers and they had much better forward facing firepower compared to the Imperial Is.

[@kristjanpeil]

Man you have Wynn Dorvan voice! 3:06 oh, but he did! There's this old saying "with great power comes great responsibility", but what what if you have "power, unlimited power"..? And this is what happened to ole' Palps - he was so crushed under the weight of all his responsibility, that he didn't foresee his right hand man taking him out when he least expected it ;)

[@quentinmwilson9837]

Thrawn is too good for Disney to handle.

[@Shadx27]

Though needing some twinks, I really want to make more of Tie Fighter PC game canon. One twink, Admiral Karyn Faro will have to replace Thrawn in game. Which makes the last mission of defeating Zaarin in the unknown territories a nice stepping stone to a certain reunion. And if Ezra Bridger met a very minor dark acolyte who had pretty good reasons not to trust the dark side and was a pilot second only to Vader.. that would be interesting too.

[@starclone4]

Thrawn is just so Dang Cool !!!!

[@jumangi2322]

I never realized it was that crazy

[@ThePete7499]

The Arqutiens class was actually 325 meters

[@Indo-Fury6521]

Hey George Lucas your so amazing and thank you for making Star Wars.

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

Thrawn's philosophy was reflected best. 1. He believed that the ISD was one of the best warships to be ever deployed by the Empire. You don't need bigger ships, just build more of them. 2. The ISD's weakness is the TIE Fighter. The starfighter is too weak, reducing the ISD to a powerful battleship vulnerable to starfighter attack. His TIE Defender was designed for the best pilots and save experience from being lost. 3. Thrawn was very much against the Death Star project. Using enormous resources to control or dominate a sector could have been used to build more star destroyers and TIE Defenders to pursue insurgents and enforce every sector in the galaxy.

[@katsarelas1947]

Wait, where did you get 230meters for the Arquintens? Weren’t they like 325ish?

[@andrewgraziani4331]

Ahhh the 90's. The platinum age of television especially sci-fi.

[@bored8321]

Finally some good imperial themed holovids! Glory to the Empire!

[@tsarfox3462]

Well the main reason his fleet was so large was he needed extra ships to carry the entire Empire.

[@joshuadelbelbelluz8325]

Can you please continue the sepratist alliance vs earth series please

[@Melissa-qg8ed]

Thrawn is my fave!

[@Daemon2k15]

Cant wait to see Thrawn in live action

[@Darth-vade123]

My taskforce death squadron would be the largest. The executor with as many assets as I wanted death squadron would have 20 imperial class Star destroyers with many more available death squadron would at endor be 33 star destroyers 2 Tectors and 4 interdictors strong plus many support ships plus the Executor would be the might of 12 imperial class star destroyers